Geometry Dash's most accurate hitbox

I also made a challenge with the fixed hitboxes, but I couldn't find a way to put that in the title as well lmao
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[@digi284]

I feel like having the hitboxes like this erases the “I wasnt even in the spike” excuse that comes with a lot of other games

[@DehydratedMoron]

true

[@abicto]

no, it makes it worse because most of the time we dont notice the tiny small pixel touching the spike

[@reinhard7731]

yeah robtop didn't make a mistake in making the hitbox, it's to NOT MAKING that kind of annoying "bug"

[@Joshua-by2mp]

Not really

[@KPoWasTaken]

quite a few other games have pixel accurate hitboxes on spikes though

[@gacoco6967]

The hitboxes aren't broken, is just that in a game u just can't put the hitboxes as the same the object is visually, to make a fair gameplay is really important to give the player a maneuvering range that make a feeling that he died cuz he actually crush at the spike. Imagine just die in a level cuz u crush at one pixel of the peak in a spike

[@DehydratedMoron]

that would make more sense than just rob being lazy

[@GhostedMemes]

@@DehydratedMoron yeah rob isn't lazy he is smart :)

[@gacoco6967]

@@DehydratedMoron Bro just imagine dying cuz the cube touch the smallest point of a spike

[@DehydratedMoron]

@@gacoco6967 thats just being a bad game dev not even a dumb one

[@memeyeme]

Robtop, why no hitbox at bottom of the spike like-

[@roshibomb4247]

People aren't understanding that this isn't "fixing" the hitbox, that's just a catchy title. Having model-accurate hitboxes is actually very uncommon in 2D games, because it makes way more sense to have the ability to "just brush by" gameplay-wise. It can feel super unfair to get clipped by a pixel, so having hitboxes like this mitigates that feeling a lot. A really good example is the Piranha Plant hitboxes in Super Mario Bros. (the first game). They are WAY smaller than the actual sprite, which actually makes them feel much better because they wont kill you if you just barely touch them from a fall when they came out after you'd already jumped. So basically, to all of the people saying "I'm glad RobTop never fixed this..." well, that's because it was never broken.

[@TrideGD]

That's completely true yeah, I should've probably clarified that better in the video tbh. Well said

[@roshibomb4247]

@@TrideGD No problem, I liked the video idea and it made for a fun concept. Just wanted to make sure people were informed that RobTop hadn't made mistakes when designing the hitboxes and that it was actually fairly common practice, since I'd seen a lot of people assuming as much in the comments lol

[@samuels1123]

Especially here because its implied that the character isn't made of a well decorated balloon, you gotta get legitimately poked by the spike to die to it

[@ohcrapitsnot3am58]

@@TrideGD U say things long

[@S1NPowerZ]

Well if it gets fixed many levels will impossible

[@FrozzyOfficial]

"Why do you have 4000 objects in this level? There's only one spike!" "Well, i was trying to do perfect hitboxes..."

[@repetitivethinking]

"Oh, so thats why it was so hard."

[@blazablaza2890]

@@repetitivethinking thats what she said

[@cutpaper]

@@blazablaza2890he*

[@BilkMucketYT]

Me on my fire tablet I hate this i die right when i touch the spike I wished i had the little pill hitbox

[@KingSammelot]

I think it’s actually better that robtop never made the hit boxes the full spike, because its been such a big topic, and it always makes for an epic moment when you beat a level but got like 3 frames into the last spike 🤣

[@rookie5026]

It's just broken

[@justamir5]

maybe you should try that challenge 3x in a row

[@arcioko2142]

the laughing emoji ruined the comment

[@pinkpigstorms]

Hi

[@fjaps]

@@arcioko2142 you ruined my braincells

[@arkalt4066]

having the hitboxes a little smaller than the object is very common in 2d platformers as a quality of life feature that makes the game feel better. although it may not be true, it’s frustrating to die even though you thought you didn’t touch the spike, or just died by touching the spike by like 3 pixels.

[@godlyvex5543]

IWBTG fangames do the inverse, where the player has a forgiving hitbox, while every other object has perfect hitboxes.

[@OctoNap]

Deltarune is a good example of both what this comment says and what the reply says, the hitbox for the player is smaller than the soul and the projectiles are smaller than the bullet's actual size

[@nutelu3462]

@@OctoNap ever seen any touhou game on lunatic?

[@CDCHexaku]

@@godlyvex5543 poggers

[@otmorozok1994]

​@@nutelu3462It's not just touhou, it's most STG games.

[@Wulzy]

Very cool video, I think you explained everything perfectly and the pacing is awesome. I think the hitboxes make the game more enjoyable as it allows for more close calls and poses more risk

[@pwlap]

ok mullsy

[@usernonegd3751]

woah it’s woozee

[@trev000_]

woah its woahlzy

[@cirtusgd512]

Woah Itz Mulzy

[@lampchair69]

Wulzy: comments 90% of the ppl that see his comment: *woah its Wulzy*

[@XEAZUR]

This makes ¨impossible levels¨ truly impossible

[@LunaticParmalatas]

bread

[@Saturn_57]

@@LunaticParmalatas cheese

[@js64]

@@Saturn_57 sandwich meat

[@To.Pimp.A.Butterfly.]

@@js64 tomato

[@Boxx4234]

@@To.Pimp.A.Butterfly. mustard

[@asj3419]

You could have reduced the object count significantly by removing the points on the bottom of the spikes. I guess the selling point was the hitboxes being "the most accurate", though.

[@FreakyA1on]

he could also remove some of the hitbox spikes to leave small gaps that wouldn't affect anything but the object count

[@farpurple]

​@@FreakyA1on no, then you ll have ability to go in spike by corner

[@exthelicguy7613]

But that would be bad thumbnail material

[@ENZO542_]

@@farpurple put hitbox in the corner

[@jobvantuijl]

He can use bigger hitboxes to cover the sides, and only use the tiny ones in the tip of the triangle

[@ArcadeAce21]

RobTop not adding features to the game so players are removing features in retaliation

[@confusioned2249]

In my defense of robtop, if he were to fix hitboxes then there would be a lot of levels that become straight up impossible, and all others would probably become 10x harder, so it's a situation where it's too late to fix, so you just have to keep them broken.

[@hillybankok]

robtop should add a new version of a spike thats fixed and keep the broken spike

[@chazedash8871]

That wouldn't be necessary since people can already do it themselves but it would also just be useless.

[@reinhard7731]

it's not even broken lol, it's the perfect hitbox for gameplay

[@VerdantEntropy]

@@chazedash8871 people would not be able to make a full level because each spike contains a lot of objects

[@samuel27294]

@@reinhard7731 tartarus would be impossible, arcturus would be impossible, sh would be impossible, sc would be impossible.

[@Chizinky]

Now tride has made geometry dash into the true "impossible game" AND managed to put pixel-perfects IN AN AUTOSCROLLER

[@ducky4ever75]

I like how the challenge is actually harder than it looks

[@square6422]

if this was the normal hitbox, imagine how many current levels would be broken

[@Macaron10nAStick]

Conical depression

[@nickc.1694]

Bloodbath new top 1

[@hola-xp3xx]

conical depression

[@HaimechessyGD]

Conical depression

[@fabian1551]

Imagine doing the same with saws, at the end you could do everything visible and see how it looks like :))

[@mainconman2201]

Make a rotate trigger that rotates each object by 0 degrees, that will make it more accurate. Let me explain In gd, your icon has 2 red hitboxes. The bright red hitbox doesn't rotate at all, but the dark red hitbox matches the rotation of your icon. On normal spikes, you will die when the bright red hitbox hits the spike's hitbox. If the spike is rotated however, both the bright red and the dark red hitbox must touch the spike's hitbox. By using a rotation trigger that rotates it by 0 degrees, it tricks the game into thinking the spike is rotated, but it doesn't visually change anything, so the hitbox will feel more accurate since it will match to the rotation of your icon! I hope this made sense, if you have any questions, reply to me, and thanks to whoever took the time to read this :D

[@JerrySkyblock]

Thats actually really smart!

[@DJSpinSter2004]

I wish that was how it worked, that'd be really cool.

[@JerrySkyblock]

@@DJSpinSter2004 wdym

[@mainconman2201]

@@JerrySkyblock i think he means that should be how all hitboxes work

[@JerrySkyblock]

@@mainconman2201 oh

[@sporkenson]

Scuffed hitboxes is what makes gd special lmao

[@js64]

Terraria king slime

[@stormkitty3015]

@@js64 ?

[@js64]

@@stormkitty3015 King slime is a Terraria boss, He has the most scuffed hitboxes I have h ever seen

[@Chizinky]

@@js64 gd is full of fucked up hitboxes, terraria not so much

[@js64]

@@Chizinky yeah, the only bad hitbox in the game is King slime. It is a pain to fight him true melee

[@9eternal]

"hi hello hi" never gets old

[@Leticiapais_]

People looking for the background song, it's from the Polybridge soundtrack, it's called On the road

[@IAmARobber]

you gon get hit with a box if you dont hand over them keys

[@acorn2830]

great video - it's actually really interesting to see what you could make in terms of a full level with this

[@quanted.]

with 300 objects that is a literal lag spike

[@asphore]

nice one

[@Kobe_Abogutal]

nice two

[@thegdviking9514]

nice three

[@h3971]

nice four

[@arcticmapping]

nice five

[@Salpalalo]

6:53. This is the first time I've heard Tride swear and he did it on accident.

[@KingGreenscreenKid420]

he said 5

[@Salpalalo]

@@KingGreenscreenKid420 I know

[@no0bulus234]

Tride has found a way to make silent circles even more impossible than it already is 😂

[@tm3ind]

I don’t think it’s possible to go threw the spaces with fixed hintbox

[@sszznn.]

@@tm3ind stroke moment

[@wafflees4383]

@@sszznn. that not so as bad is other comments when has stroke you now Edit: auto correct = ima mess u up and eat your insides

[@qseryGD]

@@wafflees4383 yeah also sorry for grammar police but “when has”

[@wafflees4383]

@@qseryGD I didn’t even do it, it was auto correct lmao

[@LokiThePug]

You can considerably lower the objects per spike if you take the square hitbox of another spike align with the walls of the visible spike and then use the dots for the corners only

[@unmeinks5907]

the devs are actually genius for making the hitbox that small, just like in platformers your able to jump even when your a bit off of the ledge to make it feel more natural and fair, the spikes feel nicer this way.

[@mylesogdahl2302]

*dev

[@DontUseUrToilet]

@@mylesogdahl2302 *devs

[@pizzaguy_]

@@DontUseUrToilet *vde

[@Silds.]

​@@DontUseUrToiletRob is the only GD dev

[@Gregariousness1]

@@DontUseUrToiletRob is the only GD dev

[@colby3896]

I guess you don’t really need the bottom side to have a “proper hit box” since that’ll never really kill you, so maybe removing that side entirely could help with optimizing Another idea would be to use a a single tiny spike in each corner of the big spike and then use a spawn loop to move them across each side of the big spike with 0 move time. Not sure if this would work, especially since there would be a slight delay between each move trigger and you may not get it to line up exactly, but it’s a thought idk lol. If it does work, it’s much fewer objects

[@Malam_NightYoru]

it would lag more, cuz infinitely triggering something would consume your life

[@chenivan6171]

u could just use the spike slope thingies

[@NANKAIDATTE]

the move trigger thing would crash the game

[@jimmyh2137]

Also the bottom of the spike shouldn't be "sharp", it's just a flat base (like a standard square block)

[@luna010]

it would probably be suitable to just put hitboxes on each corner. I can’t think of any scenario where you would hit the side of the cube, but not any corner.

[@dashyz3293]

Slight object efficiency optimisation: for the bottom/top side(depending on orientation) spike, you can use regular triangles and use the base of their hitbox(the breadth of the rectangular part) to match it.

[@hamd._.h-1232]

I am starting to thank robtob for not fixing the hit boxes after watching this video.

[@devonbennett6559]

RubRub

[@somerobloxplayer7672]

ah yes *r o b t o b*

[@nataneryyyyy]

scrubscrub

[@wippok42]

The hitboxes are not broken, they are intentionally small because it makes the gameplay experience better

[@hamd._.h-1232]

@@wippok42 you don't get jokes do you

[@ethawalli]

But did you fix the hitbox on the lag spike 🤔

[@idunno6844]

💀

[@puzzle8189]

The definition of "harder than it looks"

[@rraaiin]

well it was easier than it looks so now its just as easy/hard as it looks

[@Happiness10385]

Fun fact: in mini mode/wave, you can scale up a spike to 2.00 and pass through it without having to click because of the hitbox

[@ZIMOU2014]

not even 2.00 i managed to do it while the spike was just 1.00 size

[@Flame_Offical101]

Bro avernus took this level to serious lol

[@ygimm599]

should've called the level "lag spikes"

[@TrideGD]

I SO SHOULDVE OMG

[@bonafswerdy7329]

imagine fixed hitboxes in all main levels by robtop lol

[@m0destuffs94]

imagine making new highest object count level

[@Zaher74]

And then beat deadlocked

[@Lftarded]

Literally impossible stereo madness

[@m0destuffs94]

@@Lftarded it will be easier than 6 star but there are choke points at tripple spikes (little like how u experienced gd in first weeks)

[@paolarei4418]

Quadruple spike whooper

[@Infiland]

The reason why robtop chose to have a such a small spike hitbox is because to make the jumps more fair and to give players an ability to make crazy levels as well. But its mostly to make the game fair to play

[@ideac.]

Talking about fixed hitboxes Do you guys remember back in 1.9-2.0 people hackusating any good players simply because their ship would get inside spikes by a bit? Oh man...

[@Emdicpau]

Has anyone noticed that the background music is from poly bridge? Absolutely love both the game and the soundtrack

[@ee-gamer3398]

I didn't think that I would be intrugued by this video, but ended up watching a bunch! This was quite interesting!

[@windowdev]

I tweeted about this idea a few days ago and its pretty funny to see this actually be made. vers cool

[@orionmusic7142]

It would be fun to try and make accurate hitboxes for sawblades, as they have awkward shapes

[@stormkitty3015]

i love how he says "AAH MY FPS" even tho its still at over 200 lol

[@therqttlesnake]

NICE! I had this idea too when I was doing frame perfects

[@elvirareyes8530]

6:52 at first I heard the word *f*ck* , but its just five, 0w0👍

[@user-zc6wd1xo6g]

Bruh he did EXACTLY what i was thinking of for a while

[@gigu_sw]

Ive played this before and it was hard! gg I beat it tho

[@magmaog4837]

"It's so hard, it's so hard!" -Tride 2022

[@kxcq1]

The poly ridge sound track is really nice and fits well with when you create the level

[@vicioustraitor9310]

Now, imagine a demon creator gets his hands on this.

[@KPoWasTaken]

Actually the straight fly would be slightly less tight than that if hitboxes were accurate because accurate hitbox would make the ship's hitbox smaller. The ship's hitbox is the same as a icon despite visually being smaller

[@xrefed]

Why would the ships hitbox be smaller because of accurate hitboxes

[@KPoWasTaken]

​@@xrefed Dang I have a late reply If the ship's hitbox was also accurate, it would be smaller as the ship takes up less than a square yet the hitbox for the ship is a square

[@RocketRidge]

Real interesting, didn't know that the hitboxes were like this... though that does explain ALOT

[@sunnywunny]

for flipping things like this, put the main object (visible spike) as group parent in the edit group tab and it will all rotate around the grouped object instead of the center of all items combined

[@Farel_Mapper]

imagine using this hitbox on every spiked in Abyss Of Darkness Lol

[@denamous9185]

you know you can make the hitbox much more accurate by moving the red dots inside the white line of the spike, otherwise you're making the "spike hitbox" bigger than the spike itself

[@wriniee]

I love ur content continue with this :)

[@irynasynenko7597]

4:15 it is because the hitbox of all the gamemodes (except wave) are exactly 1 block X and Y now for the wave, it is much easier, because it has 0.5 X and Y, so it's half the size of any other gamemode.

[@lieyabull]

6:30 How does he build like that? (Automatically switch to correct block type)

[@eh.6761]

he uses the custom keys on the keyboard

[@NANKAIDATTE]

????????

[@miwiki6]

what?

[@0atmealH]

Probably some feature in a build hack app or something that automatically place the correct side of the block to save some time Edit: yeah it's probably a editor hack feature cuz you can see other editor hack features in some other parts of the video, idk what the editor hack is tho

[@miwiki6]

@@0atmealH he's not using any hacks are you guys high

[@fahri-sc5dq]

This is what 60hz players feel like

[@iantang7298]

True😢

[@Blade-qx9dr]

Not in 2.2 now :3

[@sully9373]

"I'm gonna make a short layout" proceeds to make a fully decorated demon level challenge

[@NoomStuff]

RopTop just understands one of the most important rules of gamedev: always make generous hitboxes

[@newalexgamer3172]

Literally my 1 year old "Fixed Hitboxes" level: hey I exist!

[@MIGHTYKING123]

Imagine slaughterhouse with fixed hit boxes 😳

[@KingGreenscreenKid420]

new mega top 1

[@MitenMint]

little thing, you can remove the hitbox for the bottom of the triangle as they are not being touched anyway. just to decrease the object count

[@Redstoner34526]

Things like ramp hitvoxes with wave are already super accurate so it doesn’t affect the wave much

[@Bombogenesis_Evangelion]

Avernus

[@johnywuijts917]

it's always better to have players go "what? how did I not touch the spike there?" and not "what? I didn't even touch the spike!"

[@A.jpeg1]

i have never seen hitboxes more fixed than that in history of gd.Thats why your're a legend

[@Enlightenment0172]

Cool concept: add a new editor build tab for hitboxes, similar to the outlines and spike tab.

[@sackyoutube]

Now its a piece of cake doing it, just use that new kill hitbox thing

[@Levcreater9909]

this was the first tride video i watched. Memorys

[@mcdondagd]

1M VIEWS! Congrats 🎉🎉🎉

[@randomchannel09240]

Actually, the spike hitbox is actually pixel perfect! Welp in this way. If you jump at the last possible frame and look REALLY REALLY closely, you cube never ever touches the spike

[@prentoniann]

robtop made the spike hitboxes stupid so you could have that godlike feeling of just barely missing a spike

[@beaksters]

If you actually design games you already know that hitbox is a nightmare.

[@Spooky90097]

Agreed

[@Spooky90097]

It looks disgusting. Lag machine and middle finger to the player

[@oden_cereal]

You never run out of ideas thats impressive mr buff master

[@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa]

you could maybe cut down on the object count a bit by removing every other tiny spike or rotating a normal one for the sides and then using tiny ones to refine it on the corners

[@Rikseli]

Now that I think about it, the standard regular hitboxes make sense. Like if you touched a sharp object with your fingernail IRL, You wouldn't instantly fall on the floor and drop dead like a fly.

[@Pyrodiac]

Unless it's venom tipped. and even then probably not instantly.

[@KyoukiDasher]

That frame perfects flying is insane

[@RGC_animation]

There's a reason (most) hitboxes are very generous in video games.

[@Microster]

you know a lot about the editor and that's super fascinating

[@hatredsayshi]

That’s crazy, this video has passed the Blast Processing buffing video, wow

[@thebacongodfather777]

other games: have accurate hitboxes the community: "BUT I DIDNT TOUCH THE SPIKE" gd: fixes this issue the community: "BRO THESE HITBOXES ARE SO JANK LOL"

[@nick-8889]

Sometimes you die without touching the spike because some icons are squished in and some squished out like the one with legs and arms are squished out and the snail is squished in

[@Smasher1]

Nice! But i noticed that the accurate hitbox you made is a little bigger than the spike itself

[@SolarBH5]

8:50 Imagine you are playing gdash and your mom hears this through the door.

[@jamesvictorbarrera6836]

lol

[@ThePigLord]

I wanna see people 100% fixed hitbox levels, it feels like a hard guitar hero fc, but probably more rage inducing when you mess up

[@roronoazoro8427]

"its too hard!" - Tride 2022

[@KingGreenscreenKid420]

🤨📸

[@williamroy1262]

this isn’t a normal geometry dash video this is a lesson of geometry dash to know how to build

[@Tuntor689]

Breaking News: Local Man hates himself

[@Yellowcat98]

tbh if the hit boxes were fixed it would’ve been really bad to just randomly die to the pixel of the spike

[@Spooky90097]

They aren’t fixed

[@dinonor]

POV: accurate hitbox in silent club step

[@skyveggiez292]

instead of making a full hitbox which takes a lot of objects, you could space the negative scaled spikes out by the length of the player hitbox to save objects.

[@wintop..]

You should make a small layout or something and then bot it, make the spikes visible and it would look so weird lmao

[@Enlightenment0172]

I don't use the free move method, I use the align X/Y method. Precision to the smallest unit, all under my control.

[@JerrySkyblock]

Didnt know you played Poly Bridge! :D

[@ultimargaming218]

That will make geometry dash hardest game in planet because to verify hard levels like slaughter house with fixed hitboxes is insane

[@landondemer8821]

You can just use the slanted ground spikes instead. Only need two of them, and creates the perfect hitbox

[@equalsparenthesis]

Tride's Australian ascent for saying *right* is godlike.

[@Cavereous]

she’s in love withe the concept

[@Chillieman]

Omg. This is like a software engineers worst nightmare of how you made the hitbox.