Trigun is Mostly Filler. That's Why It's Brilliant.

[@icky_sticky_mars]

65% filler? nah son 100% GOATED

[@TheCynicClinic]

Too true

[@teamobi3327]

So many people use "filler" to describe when plot isn't happening in a Shounen. But the thing is, Trigun isn't structured like a typical Shounen until the second half. Trigun, in my opinion is a scifi "Slice of Life" anime with wild west elements, and hard-hitting philosophical themes. We're drawn in by the mystery of the 60 Billion Double Dollar Man, and then we meet him, and immediately have questions. All of the "filler" answers those questions: Who is Vash? What are his values? Why does he have a bounty depite those values? How does he react when his values are under question, or he's challenged? How does he juggle his needs and the unearned vitriol thrown at him by everyone around him? How does he still have a driving force through all this? How far is he willing to be pushed to prove his ideologies to the world? And that's why it doesn't feel like filler. Every scene had a purpose and didn't outstay its welcome.

[@gummycubez]

To me the show didn't have any real filler to me, because to me, it's telling not only Vash's development, but Develops the characters of his allies, which are important for connecting with the plot. It's vital to feeling the plot to the fullest, and if you skip it, you pretty much are left with only seeing Vash and all the trauma. It's pointless and you don't gain anything from it.

[@beamertoy]

Exactly little bits of Vash's character is explained in almost every episode. A filler would be something more like how Team Kakashi are running around the leaf village plotting ways to get Kakashi to remove his mask. It doesn't progress the story or the characters.

[@spacecat8511]

This is exactly why the Trigun Stampede remake just…isn’t hitting correct for me. Idk if it’s closer to the manga than ‘98 or not, but I’m stuck wondering “where’s /goofy/ Vash?! When’s Vash gonna get to be a badass too??” basically every episode (and they’re released 5 now…) *I didn’t really realize Trigun was a manga first until I saw it at a Secret Santa given to someone else several years ago. Tried reading the scans but either couldn’t invest at the time or the site crashed or I got busy; so actually taking the time to read the manga scans has admittedly bumped up a bit on my “to consume” list with the release of Stampede, feeling underwhelmed with Stampede, and rewatching ‘98 for prolly the 7th time

[@mithril7272]

Trigun has filler in the same way that Samurai Jack or Cowboy Bebop has filler.

[@landmindssoul4636]

Holy wait. Stampede.

[@snintendog]

@@spacecat8511 Stampede is even further removed from the manga than the 97 Anime so dont listen to trash takes like Stampede is good. Much less that the OG creator had anything to do with it. He just signed off on the name and wished Orange some luck.

[@spacecat8511]

“Filler” will *always* fantastic when used appropriately. It develops *character* or provides breathing space (recovery, lets the Hurt hurt soooo much more because it has that contrast.) And Trigun ‘98 uses it *phenomenally.*

[@Wolfe25]

I just watched this video because I have been on a rewatch of '98 after watching Stampede and man. The filler is what makes it. I missed it! Stampede is fine but it's SO breakneck that you never get to really connect with the characters-- they're always in a life or death situation all the time. The OG anime connects with the heart of the characters and lets you build up a natural curiosity as to who Vash is and why he's so strong in his convictions.

[@matt0044]

I feel like it's part of this "Movies as TV" phenomenon that Anime has often had with one-cour wonders. They often try to make up for this by making the characters have strong personalities during plot time and smaller moments within the action going on, something Stampede does.

[@patrickholt8782]

If you only save one kid it’s hard to say you’re a child saver. So when Vash says he’s a soldier for love and peace you really gotta wonder what he does for love and peace. Then you see Rem and what she does and then the story clicks. Seeing Vash get pushed to his limits in the later episodes is insane.

[@landmindssoul4636]

Bro tell that to stampede.

[@BDCTheSloth90]

Knowledge is knowing that Trigun is mostly "filler". Wisdom is knowing that it makes for a more digestible story.

[@EliahNebb]

I love the pacing of this show, especially the first half. It lets you naturally start to wonder what Vash's deal is before getting into the backstory. Much better than many other stories that overload the backstory and expect you to care about it. Also, thanks for including so much music from the show; it's so good!

[@TheCynicClinic]

Of course, there are too many absolute tunes to not use em

[@MikoMango23]

Funny because that's exactly what the new trigun stampede reboot did with Vash's backstory and it didn't work out very well

[@landmindssoul4636]

​@@MikoMango23yup😂

[@clockwork204]

@@MikoMango23 Did it? I thought Stampede was a bit too on the nose about Vash's background and the lore pretty early on. We already see the world's sci-fi nature in the very first episode. Not to mention Knives and his relation to Vash. Though I do like that they focus on his actual "nature" in the reboot and reveal it a bit later in the series, unlike the 98 anime which only hinted at it and mentioned it in passing on the very last episode. And I guess there's not really a lot to reveal regarding Vash in Stampede yet since they shifted the timeline and he hasn't really achieve legendary status yet. He's basically a nobody that's been mistaken for Knives. In the 98 anime, we only see glimpses of the real Vash per episode, to the point it's kind of excruciatingly slow. He hides his OP skills with his goofy antics. He never shot his gun until episode 5. We didn't even know he had a prosthetic arm until much later in the series, only a hint a little earlier. Not to mention an actual explanation on what's the deal with the world way later. Now that's mystery!

[@snintendog]

@@clockwork204 Stampede speeled out Vash's Story in the first 10 minutes then waffled on reminding us every other 10 minutes what happened again and again until they retcon her death to be Manga accurate in the EFFING LAST EPISODE.

[@TMBGTransformer]

YES THANK YOU. YOU GET IT. I love Trigun because we're eased into the story, given time to get to know the characters in low-stakes conflicts before it eventually escalates to the main, high-stakes part of the story. I love how we get hints of who Vash is and his backstory leading up to "Rem Saverem" which was, for me, the most memorable moment of first watching Trigun. It was so unexpected, I thought I had somehow began watching an episode of a different show until the story began to unfold and i was absolutely glued to my screen for the entire episode. I can't believe they would consider that a filler episode it's literally one of the most impactful episodes and reveals some of the most important plot points like oh my god. filler is NOT necessarily a bad thing. my favorite episode of the show is "Quick Draw" which is 100% a filler episode but I adore the time we get seeing the relationships between Vash, Wolfwood, Milly, and Meryl develop as they spend time together in a silly little competition which ends up having higher stakes towards the end, but more importantly we get to see more hints that Wolfwood isn't your average priest when he progresses to the final round of the Quick Draw competition with his shooting skills and then the reveal of what is actually inside his giant cross!!!! and how can something be filler if the manga it is based on hasn't even been written out far enough to complete the story? (also "Hang FIre" and "Flying Ship" are partially based on the manga (tho this is the point it truly begins to diverge from the manga story imo) so how is that considered filler). and like the series is only 26 episodes. you can take the time to watch the """"filler"""" episodes here. damn sorry i have a lot of feelings and thoughts about the original Trigun anime but you summed this up perfectly. great video thank you love & peace

[@mkzhero]

Yep. Basically its all in the spirit of the manga, even that which is original to the show, and its all pretty well written, interesting, and well directed too! There's some noticeable writing, animation and drawing quality dips, but aside that, its a brilliant show, idk how people can say its 'filler' with the usual meaning to the word and try say its somehow bad, especially fans of this new 'trigun' where the characters are basically a bunch of boring, featureless emos wandering around and doing... Stuff. Extremely dry, HORRIBLY written and directed.

[@flowerbloom5782]

I really dislike new fans like to bash on the old anime for taking side stories and counting as filler even if it helps the characters growth and world building.

[@Stevem]

I really love the way the Trigun anime tells its story, because when i first watched it at 12 I did not believe Vaush was that legendary figure until I saw that moment only in the anime. The more guarded storybeats certainly keep the world feeling mysterious and the ending is about as complete as you could get. You can also kind of notice that a later ep is based on the pilot as some of Vaush's characterisation is different he is more overtly pervy for example. Based 90s Madhouse and Maruyma for believing Trigun.

[@TheCynicClinic]

I totally agree, but you mean Vash right? Vaush is the pedophile

[@Stevem]

@@TheCynicClinic Ohhhhhh lol i thought that's how it was spelled been a while

[@chriss780]

@@TheCynicClinic lol got him

[@Canti89]

Based

[@Sqwivig]

​@@TheCynicClinicWould you care to provide proof of that claim?

[@MrInuhanyou123]

Filler is usually just filling the story with nothing to literally waste time. Every episode of trigun is dedicated to vashs story and the moral humanist tale the anime tells...its like how the original Hellsing anime really enhanced its narrative by going from the perspective of seras to show an introduction to the world of vampires. Pure genius

[@TheCynicClinic]

thanks for watching the video brother!

[@jspazz6354]

So glad to see more content creators talking about Trigun

[@TheCynicClinic]

Yeah it's sad how a lot of the shows from around that era that were kind of cornerstones of anime fandom are now barely brought up. Thanks for watching the video man!

[@shanemiller1182]

Filler? I hardly know her!

[@John-gu3kb]

Nice

[@ShmuckLord385]

Aaaaahghhh, ya dirty dog!

[@shanemiller1182]

@@ShmuckLord385 you got me :)

[@icgio9819]

Noice

[@quicogil4565]

This is the same reason people hate Full Metal Alchemist 2003, even though it’s brilliant at what it does. Having two distinct flavors and versions of a story is better than the same version in two different mediums, at least in my opinion!

[@Schwartzbruder1]

People hate FMA03?

[@quicogil4565]

@@Schwartzbruder1 Yes, they do. As in "it's pointless cause we have an ACTUALLY ACCURATE adaptation".

[@Schwartzbruder1]

@@quicogil4565 ooooo yea.....

[@mkzhero]

Hate it? Idk, its rated pretty high. Brotherhood is rated higher but still, 8.3 on mal for an older show before the inflow of new anime fans that rate everything they like even a bit 10/10, boosting pretty boring and even bad show scores like crazy is pretty damn high.

[@matt0044]

@@quicogil4565 Well, at the time, it wasn't pointless. It more falls into the category of a technically bad adaptation being a darn good show. 03 shouldn't be seen as competition against Brotherhood but as its own thing and product of its time.

[@StudyofSwords]

Absolute Banger. Sincerely, this was exceptional.

[@TheCynicClinic]

You are most kind sword-dono.

[@justreddz]

I miss this show so much. I will never forget that time when Vash sang Rem's song with Meryl.

[@Matortheeternal]

Love it. Thank you so much for covering Trigun from such an interesting angle. Filler is a contentious but poorly understood topic, so shedding some light on it in this way was something much needed. I think there is a lot of value to understanding media on its own merits, and we often lose track of this when we consider media within the context of adaptation. Sorry I wasn't more participatory in the process on the Patreon, but I'm really happy that you covered one of my suggestions! Trigun is one of my favorite anime due to the very same narrative components that you identified are original to the anime. The way it slowly and carefully navigates Vash's character, and the stark contrast it draws between its comedic and serious elements really elevates the narrative, in my mind. Excellent work! Thank you.

[@TheCynicClinic]

No worries, thanks for the suggestion, it turned out to be a real good one!

[@samuraijaydee]

I Love this show. It caught lightning in the bottle. I've read the whole Manga, all of it, that still doesn't spoil this show for me. I Love the Manga, but really love the MadHouse anime. It's like a smaller more focused version of Trigun.

[@sorsaarchive1271]

This video was incredible. The trigun anime is such a classic gem that no one every talks about.

[@aminuteofb6848]

Fans who make websites like those need to learn the distinction between adaption changes vs filler. The original content in the Trigun anime may be different, but it def isn't filler. Not when it's building to its own conclusion.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Amen. Filler in general should just be another term for padding in a story, regardless of whether original or not.

[@kllrnooooova]

Honestly true. I mean just look at 86. It was adapted so beautifully even though there's a lot of anime original scenes. There's a difference between padding to fill the runtime and anime original scenes from the interpretation of the director

[@Sovakian]

When I first began to watch Trigun I wasn't very impressed. I hadn't watched much 90s animes, so the style was distasteful to me when I first watched it. I liked it at the end but that was it. After I rewatched it, I felt very different about it, and now it's even one of my favorites if not my favorite anime. I am itching to read the manga because it's practically a different story after the first part, and I come back to watch Trigun often. And the music is so wonderful and captivating.

[@mkzhero]

It may be somewhat different a story, but the two stories are still very similar in spirit and feel. The new show meanwhile doesn't resemble the story of either AT ALL aside the crash, and the manga and anime spirit is completely lacking. Oh, super boring and flat characters too

[@MrInuhanyou123]

It's kind of scary how classic anime somehow gets a bad wrap for such vague reasons

[@itpugil]

Started watching the series last month, finished Badlands Rumble yesterday. Underrated anime, and an underrated channel.

[@TheCynicClinic]

thanks for the kind words!

[@galapregel191]

It’s brilliant storytelling, it comes organically trough the charachters and the world they live in. There’s little to no expositon, but rather everything is layed out for the audience to figure out and interpret themselves. It makes the story feel so real.

[@thesleepyreader]

It's a similar situation to the original shaman king anime, it was mostly filler but that filler was important in establishing a genuine connection between the main cast and with all that friendship engraved in you, the manga ending make a lot of sense (the anime not so much but they didn't know the ending so i can't blame them)

[@Py687]

Great video rationalizing why filler is sometimes made, and not always bad. Trigun was one of my first anime and I still recall feeling like the episodes were padding for a slow plot. It wasn't until I finished the show that I appreciated the tone and character set by the filler. I hope in the future you'll make another video "debunking" fillers. There is a lot of conflation online between filler, canon, source material, and plot relevance. Since filler often pulls from original omake created by the mangaka to fill volumes, crossovers, or holiday specials, it can't be simply defined as "content not found in the manga." Even outside of omake, filler chapters can absolutely exist in manga. Whether it's to push something out the door due to writer's block and time constraints, or to deliberately inject a slice of life moment into the story, sometimes you just get a chapter that does absolutely nothing to advance plot, character development, or worldbuilding. Many long running series have these in spades (famously Detective Conan). None of this inherently makes filler good or bad. But I think the first step to admitting this is to properly reframe filler.

[@leifmochi5082]

Man trigun is so fucking good. both the anime and the manga, i hope the trigun stampede delivers.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Here's hoping! I've got high hopes in Studio Orange

[@nobafan7515]

Thank you for defending this filler. As someone who doesn't like how much they add to the original dbz broadcast (I get why), I make the effort to make distinctions to whether or not the creator uses the anime to add to the manga or not. It's why I'll enjoy both versions of full metal alchemist despite the differences.

[@didiok7]

Trigun anime, is on it's own, very different from the original. Both are equally amazing. It's episodes shouldn't be treated as fillers, cuz they are required for the anime tone. Perfect video about this. I tried to explain to my frieds how different the manga is from the anime and why they should consume both, now I think I know how to explain, thank you!

[@M-Soares]

I honestly feel so lucky to know this channel. Not only you deserve way more views, people have no idea what they're missing out on. This is probably my favourite anime channel right now, if not ever.

[@TheCynicClinic]

You're too kind brother

[@luciusirving5926]

Both the show and manga are very realistic so both are awesome. Nicholas and Milly didn't ship in the manga, but their relationship was still realistic.

[@mkzhero]

Its not filler, since it stays consistent with all that happened, most of what happens is very much in the tone of the show, and more importantly, it veils the main plot in mystery, explores the world and the characters more, builds it all up to make the reveal even more impactful, AND is quite interesting and well written, playing out almost perfectly (some budget dip episodes and quality dips make it a little worse but its still pretty good), building a really great bunch of characters and telling a great story, even if the open, made up and wishy washy conclusion is a bit disappointing.

[@RAFMnBgaming]

Personally I really liked the ending being open. I think it's the sort of show where any ending had the opportunity to be either really dissapointing or infuraiting so something that leaves the audience to sort of come away from it with their own conclusions felt kinda right to me.

[@mkzhero]

@@RAFMnBgaming dunno, if they'd make the same ending as in the manga and show he goes on to be a wanderer, it'd be a perfect ending

[@RAFMnBgaming]

@@mkzhero perhaps. Though I suppose if you want that ending at least you've got the manga that has it.

[@mkzhero]

@@RAFMnBgaming the manga's pretty different

[@ShesquatchPiney]

When people bitch that Inuyasha has "too much filler" I wanna jettison them outta the fandom like child-mom Rin.

[@thepotatoburrow]

Really good analysis! I think this is anime is a good example of "filler" making an anime

[@TheCynicClinic]

I agree! Thanks for watching the video

[@KeyleeTamirian]

That site also lists a lot of Sailor Moon Episodes as Filler. They list Episode 12 as filler, even when it's the Last Straw episode for Jadeite, as he not only has failed for 12th time, but also used one of Queen Beryl's favorite Youmas, Thetis (And it was Thetis initiative to help Jadeite), which made Queen Beryl furious at Jadeite. Also they listed first 13 episodes of Sailor Moon R as filler, which means they tell viewers that after final episode of Season 1, they should skip straight to Episode 14 of Sailor Moon R, which would make viewer feel like they skipped a lot of plot.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Yeah they just arbitrarily decide what is filler and what isn't, with no regard for how the anime's story flows. The worst tag is honestly the "mixed canon/filler" one, because if you're going to have that, technically most episodes of would be that, so the usefulness completely breaks down.

[@snintendog]

@@TheCynicClinicThen we get amazing Edits like One PACE which defines Filler as both useless anime only content and scenes that were artificially lengthened to drag the episode out such as 1 minute long still frames to increase tension when 5-10 seconds is enough. But if it adds to the Story like Bellemere pushing nami as a ghost in a dark room they keep it despite it not being manga accuarate. G-8 is on the table as the greatest anime Filler that even the Goda Oda himself wants to be canon is on the long list of things to add as a special movie to be made.

[@TangensROH]

I don't mind fillers. And in Trigun fillers are like a good adventure. An adventure full of smile and fun.

[@gigione7229]

Recently I've concluded Trimax and tbh the last episodes of Trigun '98 I wouldn't consider filler at all because there are some focal points of the story. They look really different yes, but those episodes summarized a lot of turning events even though they literally made a speedrun on those 5-6 episodes. Ofc doesn't mean you don't need to read the manga after you watched Trigun '98 It would be the good choice finishing Trimax AND finishing the '98 anime with his last 6 episodes.

[@Sarutabaruta]

You've got my axe and my sub Shockingly well researched and produced video for only 8 minutes, I'm impressed. Helps Trigun is an old favourite of mine and this topic is one I can get behind on the whole. For example, Meryl and Vash's romantic development is mostly anime exclusive, but I found it to be incredibly genuine, wholesome and enjoyable. Just because something is filler doesn't mean it can't be good, or even better.

[@christianmeeks]

Nah fam. Calling anime Filler only counts when an anime is solely based on the manga. You said it yourself when talking about the history of the trigun manga. The anime started production before the manga was even close to finished. It's an anime original story so that logic gets thrown out the window. The only filler episode is 14. That said its still a good video. Glad to see someone else talking about it!

[@madeinmeme9688]

Trigud doesn't have fillers, it just has world building episodes.

[@TheCynicClinic]

yeah tri is gud!

[@TR3NDSTTRS]

This was an amazing analysis on your part! Thank you for sharing this!

[@TheCynicClinic]

Thanks for watching!

[@louis9232]

It's cool watching the anime and reading the manga, seeing how each of them influenced the other in some way

[@notisac3149]

I just discovered your channel from your video on comparing the anime adaptations of Kino's Journey, with my favorite anime to date still being the 2003 version. In watching just 2 videos from you I feel I've gotta subscribe lol. Underrated as heck with a rather unique perspective on not only the anime as shows, but the inner workings of them as well as the history and people behind them.

[@TheCynicClinic]

You're too kind brother, appreciate it!

[@calamityhex3729]

I whouldent use the filler for triguns story because it implies It's unnecessary to the story. On the contrary I think the even those parts of the story have nothing to do with vash and his brother knives conflict they show who and what kind of person Vash is how his values are pitted against the world itself. How the world itself views him as the humanoid typhoon. No to mention they beautifully transition the animes comedic light heartedness to a much more serious somewhat somber tone. Heck if you want to spilt hairs on it cowboy bebop by this logic is about 65% percent filler but if we only did the story about spike a vicious there story the bebop crew whould feel like there along for the ride.

[@LaynoProd]

best 26 episode anime arc and storytelling ive seen so far in my life, this my 3rd anime completed right after (1) Hajime No Ippo ,and (2) Neon Genesis Evangelion

[@vazak11]

Excellent videos and insights, the contempt for filler held by so many fans confounds me.

[@anonymousanon3055]

Nice vid, thanks for making and sharing!

[@blakearius]

Seeing the new show I get why this filler is important. Sure the new show has a great story, animation and design but it's just major intense plot point over and over with no breathing room. You only get to see one side of vash which is just moody teenager as apposed to the original vash who compensates to hide his sadness. It's just hard to care about a world that doesn't feel real because it only ever focuses on the "tough life" aspect.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Definitely, filler can be a force for good!

[@andrewconnolly7409]

I like the start the best. Around episode 11 it gets a little darker. The enemies are great onwards but the tone is darker than i like.

[@usul573]

The first 4 episodes of Trigun are precious. Though I think I get the idea and an entire anime of fun and silly adventures would be fine but not as meaningful and powerful as the second half of the anime gets. The tone shift is quite interesting and surprising. Episode 6 and 9 starting to build up more on the world and who Vash is were so interesting too as a mystery.

[@RobSomeone]

I whole heartedly will argue the anime is better than the manga despite the manga having more story, characters, and plot. The anime did so much more with so much less and the ambiance it built to convey the world is so powerful it's palpable.

[@HongKongSniper]

And its clear to the Trigun Stampede writers that they didn't think this was the case. Shame. Now we have to live with an episode one that is the first 7 episodes plus his two flashback episodes all rolled into one because... well no one knows.

[@mkzhero]

Actually it might be a prequel in most ways lol... But yeah idk why people defend the new one, if the visuals are okay for the most part, the story and characters are HORRIBLY dry and boring, lacking in depth and any kind of interest and individuality, the story so far overall aside one episode with the past is also pretty bad... That's taken at face value, as a completely different show. As Trigun, it COMPLETELY lacks the charm and spirit of both the manga and 98 anime, feels like some emo fanfic of it instead.

[@HongKongSniper]

@@mkzhero agree

[@Venomosityt]

I also loved that the manga and anime were different because sometimes reading something after you watched it can be boring because you already know what happens but that wasn’t the case for Trigun and I got to see the difference between the two pieces of media. I was invested the whole time I was reading it and I loved both of the different portrayals and endings to the story

[@TheCynicClinic]

Definitely, adaptations like this makes diving into the other parts of the franchise more rewarding

[@kukukachu]

That's why I always say that the OG Trigun has "filler"/ because I believe that "filler" really helps you understand the characters and their ideologies better, just like FMA does to FMAB, except with OG animeTrigun, you have it all in one place.

[@Wise_Llama]

That's funny. I literally finished watching the show for the first time yesterday. It was a banger btw.

[@MoonAnime]

LOVE & PEACE ! For FILLER or NOT !🤞

[@EvanSchatz]

Dangerous toys are fun, but you could get hurt!! 😸

[@rudeboi7916]

I actually liked this video man good job

[@GilLiesHere]

ANOTHER BANGER MR. CLINIC

[@TheCynicClinic]

for you

[@beamertoy]

There's no filler in Trigun anime. There is an episode where Meryl recounts previous episodes but even in that episode there is progress to the main story.

[@juanmata9814]

I'm Absolutely a huge fan of TriGun I want a 3rd Reboot of this show to longer seasons and animated movies as well

[@VampireA1056]

I would love to have a Trigun Ultimate Edit: Never mind

[@ErmiAnimeENG]

Daaamn clinic-san with the good shit

[@HaydenTheHistorian]

vash is so hot

[@MercuryFalcon]

Great video as always!

[@TheCynicClinic]

Many thanks!

[@Busker_3000]

I always hated that criticism of filler in trigun. The character building of this story is paramount. Only one real filler episode is 14/Little Arcadia. Hate that one. It's the only one that can be skipped and not miss anything.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Is that the recap episode?

[@Busker_3000]

@@TheCynicClinic na, I still think that's an important episode because after the recaps we get to see Vash with his shirt off and gets to show and explain all those scars. It's a very important scene hidden behind a clip show. The filler episode I'm talking about is the one Vash isn't in. The girls fight that family on their own, The giant to throws her sons like baseballs. Always skip that episode.

[@minixlemonade]

@@Busker_3000 Believe it or not, that episode was in the manga and is basically completely canon.

[@VitorCesar]

Trigun is great and the pt-br dub is the best ever

[@ElduRSverO]

Let’s gooooooooo

[@clockwork204]

The fillers made the pacing so slow, but the gradual reveal of Vash as a character is so brilliantly played out. One gripe from me I guess, would be that I wish the drama was a bit more spread out. The first half is way too light and comedic, that it kind of set expectations and made the super heavy second half a bit jarring. Also, damn... the stuff the anime didn't get from the manga is pretty epic too. Hoping Second season of Stampede is also as epic.

[@sdjslkdjlsskldjslkdjsl8262]

I'm so sick of this modern focus on PLOT ADVANCEMENT PLOT ADVANCEMENT PLOT ADVANCEMENT. Episodic (or semi-episodic) series have more time to establish the world and develop character dynamics.

[@TheCynicClinic]

preach it brother

[@jonahabenhaim1223]

If your saying modern, what years exactly?

[@KeyleeTamirian]

You are a holy person. We need more anime watchers like this.

[@mkzhero]

Character interactions are also plot advancement. Heck, many shows can, and DO get away with no 'plot' at all, mainly comedy stuff, for example one of my favorites being 'daily lives of highschool boys'... You mean MAIN plot advancement. The new 'trigun' completely abandons character focus altogether it seems and is pretty damn bad for it.

[@iroquoispliskin4347]

this is the real critisium of trigun stampede they're rushing the story and going throught way to quickly vash's story was not exclusivly about the gun ho guns, i dont think the series even had the rem butterfly scene to convay why vash won't kill and how knives was cool with it

[@TheCynicClinic]

Haven't seen stampede yet, but from what I've heard that seems to be the case. Thanks for watching!

[@AlexanderFromTheStarDimension]

I see some people arguing that Vash doesn't contain filler. So, I have to wonder, what constitutes as filler? What's the definition? Because, rather than referring to the placement of events within a story, I think the true connotation is simply whether the events are (not just relevant to the plot; or canon. but) adapted and taken from the source material or if they are new. All in all, I think calling Vash's early episodes "filler" is a means of saying that the showrunners had to take some artistic liberties and expand upon the original manga plot storyline -- while, at the same time, these artistic liberties are primarily goofier or less impactful moments (while all the while are meant to make the impactful moments all the more impactful when they happen). All the aforementioned contents of this convoluted comment are encapsulated by the word "filler". So I guess the word filler is quite nuanced and could have different definitions or usages. But TheCynicClinic used the word well and their argument is strong, and they explained the really cool backstory to me, in that much of the anime is restructed and reordered to compensate for the lack of material to work with.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

Also for other series, people may call actual canon content that is slice of life or slower filler oddly enough

[@Gacelorra]

Great video.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Cheers brother!

[@pizziola808]

Its not filler, it's an episodic tale that drip feeds the major plot points. Y’know, like how most westerns do.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Thanks for watching!

[@Iruilisan]

Bro you gotta tell me how did you sandy planet ost please 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[@TheCynicClinic]

I just d/I'd it from nyaa

[@VaryaTheVillain]

I wonder if that anime filler considers quite a lot of Cowboy Bebop episodes filler, even if they exist without a manga to put them up against, simply because they "seem" like a filler. anyway, thank you, banger video, I've literally been yelling about how good we had it with Trigun anime adaptation last year to all my friends. this video just proves me that yes, indeed, Trigun is just Really Good

[@TheCynicClinic]

Yeah I've seen people say exactly that, and also things like the volcano episode of Eva is filler, it becomes a useless term meaning 'parts I didn't like'. Thanks for kind words, Trigun is indeed Really Good.

[@CaseNumber00]

Patreon should make him watch Tanya the Evil or something.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Be the change you want to see!

[@MartialArtsTechniquesideas]

You won a sub

[@TheCynicClinic]

Hell yeah, thanks fam

[@ethanalvarez81]

Trigun maximum please

[@pikitis]

Fill the hole, hole filler

[@TheCynicClinic]

- Aristotle, 335BC

[@Leidon00]

great video mr blahblahblahblahbleebloobloo!

[@TheCynicClinic]

He truly is one of the great producers of our time, thanks for watching brother!

[@icky_sticky_mars]

YESSSSS I love the Trigun manga especially the later plot points but the anime is undoubtedly the stronger version of the story imo and writing off the original material as "filler" and the notion that that's bad could prevent people from checking out the show is a shame

[@juanmanikings]

Eh i love the anime but undoubtley the manga is better especially the characters like knives wolfwood and the gun ho guns

[@Yuuhivan0]

should I watch the anime or Read the manga?

[@TheCynicClinic]

Personally I prefer the anime, the manga gets a little convoluted but both are great!

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

The new Trigun is good in its own way with all the groundwork of the story out of the way. The old adaptation had to work with what they had. He still is goofy in some ways but things start tumbling and there’s great use of CG

[@mkzhero]

Not really, the characters in the new one lack any depth... They're also very different from the manga, the show is different from the manga's spirit too, with both character interactions and chemistry, overall tone, and the full lack of comedy, comedic relief, and lighthearted stuff.

[@mohitkothari9170]

Is it only me or anyone else's feels like there's some similarities between John Wick's character and trigun

[@TheCynicClinic]

Interesting, in what way?

[@yothischeetobussin1279]

I thought it was an anime original

[@TheCynicClinic]

haha I can understand why, the narrative flows so well as a 26 episode series

[@babylonisfallen4411]

oh but when Inuyasha does it there's "too much filler"

[@AndehX]

ahneemey

[@TheCynicClinic]

Damn dude that's crazy

[@1-lil_nico]

alucard lost brother

[@flowerbloom5782]

This is why I really dislike stampede version. The characters are either trauma dumping or info dumping. The new show feels way too bloated with life and death situations that you don’t get time to actually know characters motives or beliefs. The dynamics they have are super basic. They don’t really progressively become friends. They kinda just exist. The only one I can say has strong motive is knives and actually feels more of a protagonist than vash for me. Vash is just a punching bag for the plot. Knives actually makes a lot of decisions and is proactive. I was more invested in knives as a protag than vash. Vash I got tired of with his crybaby energy in this version.

[@majormetcalf1225]

I really disliked trigun when I wanted it years ago. Vash angered me he felt too goofy and I always just wanted him to get serious.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Thanks for watching the video!

[@majormetcalf1225]

@@TheCynicClinic thanks for making the video it was informative and got me thinking about looking at the manga.

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

The new Vash in Trigun is more serious

[@majormetcalf1225]

@@rajvirmalhans2073 yeah the new shows been a lot of fun with a better mix of goofy and serious.

[@rajvirmalhans2073]

@@majormetcalf1225 I know some people haven’t always liked it but I think both series are good in their own way and doing different things

[@kevinalford]

My goodness. Please stop moving around so much when you're talking on camera.

[@TheCynicClinic]

Gotta get my steps up somehow! Thanks for watching

[@Smokey_The_Stampede]

Cool Ben Shapiro?? What are you doing here??

[@TheCynicClinic]

:(

[@KoKoraaaaaaaa1995]

People throw the word "filler" around too loosely i feel. True filler doesn't add anything meaningful to the story, characters, or world, and is just there to padd out the episode count. This wasn't really the case with classic Trigun. Just about everything means something or at least serves a purpose.