This FAKE Epiphone is Hilarious!

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The Trogly's Guitar Show

The Trogly's Guitar Show

Күн бұрын

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@CraigFranklinmusic
@CraigFranklinmusic Жыл бұрын
So are you saying this is an Epi-Phoney?
@mikemartinez6469
@mikemartinez6469 Жыл бұрын
thank u
@I-Libertine
@I-Libertine Жыл бұрын
For the win!
@mpirron1
@mpirron1 Жыл бұрын
Ba dum tss
@captainalex8003
@captainalex8003 Жыл бұрын
Patrick: I don’t get it…
@CraigPlaysGuitar
@CraigPlaysGuitar Жыл бұрын
A fellow Craig, we are both geniuses
@rhymenocologist
@rhymenocologist Жыл бұрын
Those shackles on the hummer are meant to mimic recovery points on off-road vehicles. I love the idea
@68blues
@68blues Жыл бұрын
Seven ton shackles!
@christophervaldez8746
@christophervaldez8746 Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the counterfeit Harley Bentons 😂
@Steve.Cutler
@Steve.Cutler Жыл бұрын
The strap buttons on the Hummer guitar are made to look like the trailer hitch.
@dboone7670
@dboone7670 Жыл бұрын
That was the only cool thing about that guitar
@D.Guitar
@D.Guitar Жыл бұрын
Why would anyone bother to counterfeit an Epiphone?!?
@TylerJohnstonGuitar
@TylerJohnstonGuitar Жыл бұрын
Some Epi’s nowadays go for 1500-2k. Ridiculous. If you can make one for ~200 bucks, that’s a pretty big profit margin.
@MyName-4884
@MyName-4884 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I mean, I actually really like epiphone guitars, but if you’re gonna go through the trouble of faking a Les Paul, why not just call it a Gibson?
@markcheetah4960
@markcheetah4960 Жыл бұрын
​@@MyName-4884I bought a fake Les Paul Custom from one of those Chinese websites... they had wine red Chibsons (that said Gibson on them) and an Epiphone too. The paint job on the Epiphone simply LOOKED better, so I bought it instead of the fake Gibson. Back then, a legit Epiphone LP Custom sold for either $499 or $599 here in the US, and it didn't come with a case. This fake one cost a little over $300 and it came with a case. In those days, the Chibsons came in a plain black generic case. When it arrived, it came in an official looking Epiphone case, and it had hang tags, a warranty card, and a user's booklet too! I'm still not sure if it's a "real" Epiphone or not.
@solarismoon3046
@solarismoon3046 Жыл бұрын
@@TylerJohnstonGuitar NO ONE in their right mind would pay $1,500.00 - $2,000.00 or and Epiphone made in either Japan or Korea!! These are absolutely nothing to write home about and I wouldn't want one even as a gift.
@TylerJohnstonGuitar
@TylerJohnstonGuitar Жыл бұрын
@@solarismoon3046 I agree. Most I’ll pay for an Epiphone is 500 bucks lol.
@vladimirpoutine7522
@vladimirpoutine7522 Жыл бұрын
5:41 I agree the blocks were painted over. You can see them faintly in this shot.
@CraigPlaysGuitar
@CraigPlaysGuitar Жыл бұрын
Oh hey that's me! I'm Craig! I am losing my entire mind. First you feature the baseball guitar from my local guitar shop and now you're featuring this bizarre fake Epiphone from Facebook marketplace. This is cool, thanks for making my night.
@green461
@green461 Жыл бұрын
Epiphone is already a chine knockoff of Gibson, but since its owned by gibson people for some reason think its not a cheap knock off.. Why would someone make a knock off off the cheap knock off brand?
@corpse711
@corpse711 Жыл бұрын
First Epiphone headstock looks half Epiphone half Taylor! Why would a human try to fake an Epiphone anyway ?.... UGH!!!!!
@simonrongeholmmadsen
@simonrongeholmmadsen Жыл бұрын
9:36 thanks for the feature, Austin! That Les Paul artist sure has seen it's fair share of things! However it plays and sounds great, and the moog stuff is fun too! Luckily I got it for cheap!
@TheWitchingHourBand
@TheWitchingHourBand Жыл бұрын
I love the look of guitars like that "stage5" deluxe gold top. Something that seen every dive bar in north america and has a story to tell
@ericbgordon1575
@ericbgordon1575 Жыл бұрын
A Les Paul w/ Moog board? That's definitely a product of the Norlin era. Gibson Guitars and Moog Music were owned by Norlin in tandem.
@robsterTN
@robsterTN Жыл бұрын
Why would you fake an Epiphone of all things? Be like counterfeiting one dollar bills.
@RussellProthero
@RussellProthero Жыл бұрын
Digging the "mouldy" guitars!
@IsaacSmelcZhan
@IsaacSmelcZhan Жыл бұрын
Why did they want this
@jonkerr2050
@jonkerr2050 Жыл бұрын
I love those cherry sunburst customs. The extra binding breaks up the cherry red burst and the red back nicely.
@WW-1995
@WW-1995 Жыл бұрын
That goldtop was astonishing ! Can we find any highquality pictures of it somewhere ?
@rockerbuck967
@rockerbuck967 Жыл бұрын
A fake Epiphone.....what is this world coming to? Epi's aren't bad, but seriously......they had to fake one??
@musicauthority674
@musicauthority674 Жыл бұрын
Aren't Epiphone's made in China? so a Chibiphone would also be made in China? this one clearly has the wrong headstock. but if it had the right headstock. it might be a little more difficult to tell an Epiphone from a Chibiphone. the Chinese guitar builders have gotten much better at building the copies over the years. to where they are going to be more difficult to identify. especially if the original and the copy both come from the same Country. which means a person is going to have to inspect them with a fine toothed comb. to be sure they aren't getting a fake.
@presmasterflash7555
@presmasterflash7555 Жыл бұрын
Those fine tuners look like they came off of a Kahler, further supporting the possibility that one was previously there
@georgeprice4212
@georgeprice4212 Жыл бұрын
Someone really wanted to fool you into thinking it was an Epiphone Epiphone Epi model!
@Masterfighterx
@Masterfighterx Жыл бұрын
I don't even get why you'd want a copy of an Epiphone, but unless the rules are different there, it's not legal to sell as long as there's a logo on there, don't know if it only applies to the headstock though.
@CraigPlaysGuitar
@CraigPlaysGuitar Жыл бұрын
It's because it's signed by the band Rooney
@pepmasters-999
@pepmasters-999 Жыл бұрын
But, my friends, why is he suddenly speaking like this? Also, the grammar police are sad to have to issue a citation for "unplausible".
@solarismoon3046
@solarismoon3046 Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. It should be implausible. Along with all the other mispronunciations and horrible euphemisms of the day.
@dannystarkridesfixed
@dannystarkridesfixed Жыл бұрын
The hummers head rear looks like Bart Simpson haha
@andyderby150
@andyderby150 Жыл бұрын
I would love to own a Fuji gen Epiphone less Paul but they sell for Gibson prices, missed one for $300 somebody snatched it up before I could meet up with the guy 😏
@raytorvalds3699
@raytorvalds3699 Жыл бұрын
That somebody scored big time. $300 for a Fujigen Epiphone is a smoking deal (assuming there wasn't something substantially wrong with it). Shame you missed it :(
@boeing_opal
@boeing_opal Жыл бұрын
I love things like that fake epiphone where the context gets lost and details are just copied regardless of how much sense they make. E P I on a grille, fantastic
@victorgutierrez8346
@victorgutierrez8346 Ай бұрын
I bought an Epiphone LP custom of resale when I was in college many years ago and I didn't pay attention to the serial number until many years after. It turns out it doesn't have one, I have read some 90s models came with a printed label that could be lost, do you know anything about it?
@solarismoon3046
@solarismoon3046 Жыл бұрын
I hate Gibson but this is interesting. The guitars in this video are definitely nothing to scoff at. The gold tops that you see in here are nothing compared to one that came through a guitar shop by me. It was a Les Paul gold top that I saw years ago. This was more than twenty years ago now. This guitar looked as though it had been dragged down a gravel road, set on fire then, pissed on and flushed down the toilet twice, and as if someone had walked all over it while wearing football cleats! The binding was so worn on side where your arm would sit that it looked like someone had sanded it that way then polished it. The gold was green, there were dings and dents all over it. The hardware looked as if someone rubbed all the gold off and then soaked it in battery acid. The rings around the pickups were worn from playing and the fretboard was just as bad. The knobs looked as if they had been set of fire then pissed on! Every part of this guitar looked as if it went through a war and everyone stopped for a moment every day to took turns playing it. The finish was mostly gone on the back side. The binding was just as bad on the neck as it was on the body. Someone played that every day and it looked every bit as bad as the one in this video. It originally had mini humbucking pickups but they were replaced with regular humbuckers and the pickguard was just as trashed as everything else. So dirty and worn was this guitar you almost had to get a tetanus shot to touch it! If I remember right it had been owned by the same guy since it was new. If I am right that first one might have been it. I would have to watch this video again to be sure but it was really bad. The gold was green and all the finish was checked and badly worn. If not the same guitar featured here then it was really close to its twin because the pickguard was worn through in a couple spots and there was no end in sight to the damage. Let in be known that this was horrible in its appearance! It's a miracle that guitar made it that long. Most people have very sweaty hands when playing under hot stage lights for hours each week and this guitar looks as if it lived TEN of most guitars lifetimes!
@criskatan
@criskatan Жыл бұрын
I'm suspecting that, maybe, the Epi Les Paul I bought is a fake. It has Epi branded pickups but they seem a bit on the weak side. The bridge is branded "Ibanez" underneath. I called Gibson and they linked the serial number to a 2003 Korean made LP, but said that it was a tobacco burst when in actuality it's a sun burst. I took it to a music store for their opinion and they didn't think it was a fake! But, I read that a bunch of unfinished LP's were ripped off from the factory and that, maybe, it's where the faking comes into play.
@heavybrett-al4082
@heavybrett-al4082 Жыл бұрын
😂when you flashed that "mouldy" Les Paul....I literally jumped in my seat (pure shock)
@scott4482
@scott4482 Жыл бұрын
If you're going to bother making a fake, why Epiphone, why not Gibson?
@BoostedAkatsukiRiffs
@BoostedAkatsukiRiffs Жыл бұрын
Just came home from lovies guitars in wstlake village with my first ever R8 cherry sunburst!! Putting new strings and adjusting it while listening to your video has a certain type of joy I cant even explain Cheers to you and to the audience I will not be putting it down tonite lol
@bradfordjeff
@bradfordjeff Жыл бұрын
EpiPHONY!
@Les537
@Les537 Жыл бұрын
Everyone likes a good hummer, but not that kind. Would not rock.
@moonbyul873
@moonbyul873 Жыл бұрын
Good grief, even the hummer "grill" bit was the wrong color. Maybe it's because I'm an honest person, nut I don't mind Chibsons. I own one, and bought it for a fair ($200) price since it was meant to be a decoration that I'd never resell, but stuff like that first Epi are meant to decieve. And all said, if I was a piece of garbage, I bet I could sell my counterfeit for $1k+ to an unsuspecting person. That said, there are MANY tells that my guitar is fake and ANYONE who values guitars beyond just giving a passing glance would pick up really quickly that mine is a fake. Not the least of which is green/slightly askew tuning machines, deep carved (after finish) serial number and plug and play epiphone pickups. Either buy the guitar from a reputable shop, or buy it from someone who's willing to take inconvenient pictures. There's not a soul on this planet who won't take a mildly inconvenient 5 minute photoshoot to make a quick worthwhile buck for a legit product..
@MarkEdward-bl6cr
@MarkEdward-bl6cr Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking your right Austin that gold top is definitely stage 5 👍🤘🤣
@fredchatham6680
@fredchatham6680 Жыл бұрын
"DOUBLE YOUR I.Q. OR NO MONEY BACK" . . . uh, sounds good to me.
@toddalexanderhummel
@toddalexanderhummel Жыл бұрын
Long time watcher, first time caller. Lol but I need that Gibson Hummer gold top. Not the fake of course. I play gold top and have a Hummer. I'm sold. Nice piece. Keep up the great work with your channel. We're watching.. -TAH
@brandonmitchell1056
@brandonmitchell1056 Жыл бұрын
Does anybody else say "Welcome back, Trogladytes to your daily dose of guitar information.. the Troglys Guitar Show" along with Trogly or am I a weirdo
@raytorvalds3699
@raytorvalds3699 Жыл бұрын
I think it's a little weird, but who cares. It doesn't hurt anyone and you apparently like doing it.
@jacobnewell7845
@jacobnewell7845 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what's funnier: a fake epiphone, or someone trying to sell a 1998 made in korea epiphone sheraton for $1250 just because it's vintage.
@solarismoon3046
@solarismoon3046 Жыл бұрын
1998 isn't vintage. That's FAR from it! If it was 1958 or 1968 (almost vintage) then I could see it if it was made in USA.
@jacobnewell7845
@jacobnewell7845 Жыл бұрын
@@solarismoon3046 vintage means an item is at least 20 years old. An antique is 100 and up. Fun facts
@jacobnewell7845
@jacobnewell7845 Жыл бұрын
But yeah, the lesson here is that Vintage does not necessarily mean it's valuable. The determining factor for value in the used market (which does include the Vintage gear) is whether or not the piece in question has any desirable traits. A great example of this are the early 2000's BC Rich V's. They have that horned head that looks Metal AF, and they're made in Korea, too. But since they have a desirable trait, they're worth more because people are willing to pay extra for that desired feature.
@solarismoon3046
@solarismoon3046 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobnewell7845 Nope! Not even close. FIFTY YEARS or more is considered vintage - not twenty. I don't know who you've been talking to but they have no idea what they're talking about! I've been a dealer and collector of both new and used vintage and modern equipment for more than thirty years and no one I've ever known says twenty years is considered vintage. Modern equipment although old is not considered as vintage - that refers to a quality that is not standard fare. In other words that modern guitar that can be bought and sold all day isn't going to vintage or sold on the vintage market. It's just old - not vintage!
@Slim72616
@Slim72616 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone else poked fun of him calling a Gretch a Gretchen?
@groover5863
@groover5863 Жыл бұрын
lol he said "buy a hummer" :O
@BOUZOUKI_PETE
@BOUZOUKI_PETE Жыл бұрын
maybe its an Ed Roman
@Moremetal..
@Moremetal.. Жыл бұрын
There's Japanese Epiphones that have The Gibson Open Book shaped headstock, i use to play in a band with a blind guy that owned and played one, was like a white LP custom..
@patchofgravity
@patchofgravity Жыл бұрын
Your museum should include a chibson exhibit. It would be interesting to a fake guitar with its real counterpart. Plus, seeing all the messed up fake variations would be fascinating.
@hippiebiker3399
@hippiebiker3399 Жыл бұрын
Plus, we know he already has one … the Chibson Snowhorse he bought from China and did an episode on. By the way… I have the same one!
@bluemanfansam
@bluemanfansam Жыл бұрын
Feel free to call me out. But I have this one guitar ( a sonic blue squire 40th anniversary strat, no mods) and I use it on every one of my songs and I bring it with my band when we gig. I kept everything stock and I think that’s what makes it cool to me. But it’s built up some wear and I’d never trade anything for it and I don’t know what I’d do if it broke
@scottbogfoot
@scottbogfoot Жыл бұрын
So the intonation of that 3 point bridge shows how versatile and extreme it can be. The bridge tilted all one way then hi e all the way up and low e all the way down
@styrenebuilds6851
@styrenebuilds6851 Жыл бұрын
According to the Chibson Fans their fakes are made in the Epiphone factory . So is this Fake Epiphone made in the Epiphone factory also?
@timsterz1
@timsterz1 Жыл бұрын
Faking an Epiphone! What has the world come to?...
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 Жыл бұрын
Im waiting for the first counterfeit Glarry now.
@edr3761
@edr3761 Жыл бұрын
Trogly whats up with the review and demos? We're waiting for the supreme review
@fredchatham6680
@fredchatham6680 Жыл бұрын
manufacturers charge to 'relic' guitars. The Gold Top is a new, very expensive option- "WRECKED".
@TheOtteroo
@TheOtteroo Жыл бұрын
I actually like the headstock shape.
@johnro6659
@johnro6659 Жыл бұрын
I do a lot of repair work on guitars and unfortunately I come across a ton of fakes but almost half are less expensive guitars Like Epis, Squires, LTD, Schecter and so on. I would bet there are more fake less expensive guitars being bought and sold is most people assume they only fake the expensive brands so no one is looking out for them. A lot of these less expensive brand guitars are a little harder to tell than the real deal is because a lot of them are made is the same factories. You have to really look and compare I take detail pictures of guitars I know are legit so I can compare. Some guitars it could be just a couple millimeters difference where the knobs are mounted. I find fakes with bolt on necks tend to have sloppy neck pockets. I am sure I missed fakes here and there. One of the biggest fakes I see now is knockoff Hello Kitty Squires a guitar no one wanted when it came out but now pay anywhere from $600 to $1000.
@solarismoon3046
@solarismoon3046 Жыл бұрын
You can blame Steve Terreberry for that! He's the one that started this because he plays amazing music and mostly heavy metal. This was because no tough guy wants to be seen with a pink guitar. He smashed the myth that these couldn't be made to sound good. So when he went to get a Hello Kitty guitar to show that the world needed to understand that these guitars can rock everyone and their damned brother started seeking them out! They were originally $180.00 with a gig bag, a strap, a cord, and a pick. Now you can't even get one with just a guitar alone for less that $700.00 to $1,500.00!!! Yes I realize just how ridiculous this really is.
@darrellminx5459
@darrellminx5459 Жыл бұрын
Great episode. I always enjoy the oddball stuff
@jefflemieux8890
@jefflemieux8890 Жыл бұрын
Please!!! Do the supreme review!!!
@dangabrielyurango2802
@dangabrielyurango2802 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh believe me I saw a guy on market place selling a fake Epiphone and calling it limited edition.
@TheHeavyMetalWuorior
@TheHeavyMetalWuorior Жыл бұрын
Man that really greened out Les Paul I would definitely own! I would call that The Swamp Monster, gives me very swampy/ backwoods vibes!
@richardcarpenter154
@richardcarpenter154 Жыл бұрын
They are just tricking people
@AviMus82
@AviMus82 Жыл бұрын
Now they’re faking epiphones now? Lol
@geemac7267
@geemac7267 Жыл бұрын
There is nothing the Chicoms won't steal.
@mitchellschaff6520
@mitchellschaff6520 Жыл бұрын
The shape of the horn is kinda wonky, love the vid!!
@p1st0ls44
@p1st0ls44 Жыл бұрын
i prefer the dot inlays. i like it
@LuvBiteFGC
@LuvBiteFGC Жыл бұрын
i actually like those shackle strap locks. i need to hear the stage 5 compared to other lespauls.
@Forest_Fifer
@Forest_Fifer Жыл бұрын
Why would you fake an Epiphone?
@jordanpratt3821
@jordanpratt3821 Жыл бұрын
They cost $600-1600. They can't be that expensive to replicate. People expect these pieces of shit to make a fake Gibson, not An Epi. It's not really questioned. Like you said. Why fake an Epi.
@donkeyboy585
@donkeyboy585 Жыл бұрын
That’s a shackle on the fake epi
@gibgibGG
@gibgibGG Жыл бұрын
Austin, you need a "Rode Hard And Put Up Wet" section of heavily played, thoroughly worn player guitars section 🎸👍in your museum.
@gibgibGG
@gibgibGG Жыл бұрын
The green "moss" guitar could be your first 🤣🎸
@solarismoon3046
@solarismoon3046 Жыл бұрын
It's "ridden hard and put away wet". But I've seen worse! look at my comment at the top of this comments section for a full description of a gold top Les Paul that I saw at a local shop more than twenty years ago.
@joermnyc
@joermnyc Жыл бұрын
The knockoff looks like the cartoon version of the Hummer signature.😂 Andertons just did a blindfold challenge of single cuts. 3 were Gibsons. The Gibson LP ‘60s Standard ranked 6th, but then the Studio was 2nd and the Custom Shop was 1st. Go figure.
@dingbatjack1234
@dingbatjack1234 Жыл бұрын
How much for the green 69? link?
@ernestschultz5065
@ernestschultz5065 Жыл бұрын
good episode
@darthtater4655
@darthtater4655 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@elamon51
@elamon51 Жыл бұрын
Woot woot Trogly's guitars 🎸 🙌
@davidfmgonzalez
@davidfmgonzalez Жыл бұрын
08:07 - the real "greeny"! 50k well paid 😅
@Imtired93
@Imtired93 Жыл бұрын
First! Even tho the ‘epiphone’ a fake, it’s kinda unique regardless of the fact that it’s fake. I like the black binding and the inlay!
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Жыл бұрын
At what?
@guitarfox8316
@guitarfox8316 Жыл бұрын
Is this guitar company trying to get sued by epi
@bluekoi455
@bluekoi455 Жыл бұрын
Love me some blown out goldtops!
@lurklingX
@lurklingX Жыл бұрын
i like the colorscheme better on the ridiculous EPI fake. the golden yellow with white and black. def more than the hummer one. (even tho plastering epi all over it is dumb lol)
@robertseders1273
@robertseders1273 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@devans873
@devans873 Жыл бұрын
Why fake an epiphone because they are cheap, you can buy them used in great shape for less than $500.00 at guitar center or reverb.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Жыл бұрын
Z is for late and retired
@Davidckennedymusic
@Davidckennedymusic Жыл бұрын
Rub it in Sarge
@glitch-pr3nr
@glitch-pr3nr Жыл бұрын
Harmonium
@briansimpson8116
@briansimpson8116 Жыл бұрын
My Les Paul has dot inlays
@solarismoon3046
@solarismoon3046 Жыл бұрын
I had a Les Paul with dot inlays. It was a studio model. These aren't that rare.
@darthtater4655
@darthtater4655 Жыл бұрын
Moldy is great
@picksalot1
@picksalot1 Жыл бұрын
The Epiphoney guitar had a pretty odd aesthetic, to say the least. 🤭
@grantcindrich
@grantcindrich Жыл бұрын
Rooney rocks.
@mr.timebombman2230
@mr.timebombman2230 Жыл бұрын
Ughh....
@ethanhitchcock5431
@ethanhitchcock5431 Жыл бұрын
Whoa those greened out Gold Tops look like SWAMP THINGS , yikes !...Also that Red LP Custom is schweet !...Thanks Trogly !
@glitch-pr3nr
@glitch-pr3nr Жыл бұрын
Bogus
@larryburwell8550
@larryburwell8550 Жыл бұрын
a fake epiphone is hilarious kinda like a fake squire!! those last two les pauls are trash to me
@matthewotremba9230
@matthewotremba9230 Жыл бұрын
Soo many interesting bits in this video Never saw such an " L*P " inlay
@Joseph-j9h7q
@Joseph-j9h7q Жыл бұрын
Still nicer than a Gibson
@AtomicMeatballGuitar
@AtomicMeatballGuitar Жыл бұрын
Hi
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Жыл бұрын
Greetings
@andye3684
@andye3684 Жыл бұрын
👍
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Жыл бұрын
Greetings Andy
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Жыл бұрын
🥈
@andye3684
@andye3684 Жыл бұрын
​@@sgt.grinch3299Cheers Sgt
@jimmyo7743
@jimmyo7743 Жыл бұрын
C’mon, Trogly, Goldtop at 8:07 has GOT to be fake aged; I thought you were an expert. “Some people just have very acid sweat”? Have you seen the ridiculous guitars Fender posts on X?
@Trog
@Trog Жыл бұрын
That's real aging in the south
@samiam5557
@samiam5557 Жыл бұрын
Mickey Rooney fanboys no doubt.
@hectormutton2542
@hectormutton2542 Жыл бұрын
✌️
@RsSquier51
@RsSquier51 Жыл бұрын
Wasted 4 minutes. No more tho.
@jeffgualandijr9420
@jeffgualandijr9420 Жыл бұрын
dude! i never knew there was a Hummer Les Paul. holy shit that would be cool to find.
@jameshughes6049
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