Setting Up Nodes w/ 250 CP To Make 2 Bil a Month In BDO

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Trollsies

Trollsies

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@GuardPhil
@GuardPhil 6 жыл бұрын
Good job answering all the comments my friend!!! Plus one of the most recent BDO vids out there from what I could find. Again good job!
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
haha thanks, I try to get to them every day or so
@Teigrgwyn
@Teigrgwyn 6 жыл бұрын
a few problems i found: 1. it's 11cp to take the dephe route, but only 7 to take the heidel pass route (assuming you're aiming for the nodes you said) 2. zinc nodes are so expensive to get and pretty much by themselves, so a large majority of competitive lifeskillers ignore them entirely in favor of storage cp etc 3. taking arehaza route to gavinya is 2cp instead of the the ivory wasteland route, saving 1cp and allows you to mass produce palm trash crates for trade exp notes: 1. lodging is probably the best pay2win worth in the game for lifeskills 2. the desert trading buff doesn't work in arehaza/ancado (so stuff needs to be traded to valencia) 3. 250m for calpheon timber crates is a generous estimate and includes processing a few hours daily; assuming all crates in this video give that much (they don't), it's only 1.25b (for 5 types of crates) and you'll essentially be processing all of your waking hours in bdo; also assuming that you spend ~10h processing daily (probably a decent estimate), time spent playing bdo grinding instead (we'll say 1/4 time bdo is spent grinding) is 2.5h daily, 30x for a month = ~1b (1.5b for gyfin), the time is better spent grinding and you'll get levels and skill pts too don't be disillusioned by the idea of making 2b monthly, because the amount of work it takes makes it essentially the same as doing other tasks, so you should probably go for the most profitable crates and just do those casually for some supplemental income
@nemui_tora
@nemui_tora 6 жыл бұрын
My man YOU are telling knowledge that "newer" players need to hear. Realistic goals for max outcome. I thought the guide was decent but once he mentioned money estimates I got to thinking about how much real time would be spent processing. And then when he mentioned casually to p2w lodging I felt really distanced by yet another guide. Maybe you should be making one.
@Teigrgwyn
@Teigrgwyn 6 жыл бұрын
titanium/vandium ingot crates are both ~40k w/ 2 nodes ea and costs ~12cp total ----- you can do mediah timber crates if you want, ~40k ea w/ 2 nodes ea for ~25cp ----- calpheon timber crates are a very poor cp to profit ratio and shouldn't be invested in w/ ~60k ea w/ 3 nodes ea (for each mat req.) for ~50cp-ish? total ----- bronze ingot crates are ~30k ea w/ 3 nodes ea (for each mat req.) for ~15cp-ish? total, but ONLY if you already have calpheon timber crate nodes, because it shares connections and makes calpheon timbers less of a bad choice; therefore, calpheon timbers and bronze ingot crating should be established together ----- finally, there's steel ingot crates for ~20k ea w/ 2 nodes ea (for each mat req.; limiting factor is coal, so essentially 2 nodes ea), and the cp required depends heavily on your current node network, so it can cost only ~5cp up to ~30 ----- summary: ** titanium/vanadium is a must for everybody (palm crates too for leveling trading as newb), but everything else is preference and depends either on current node setup to dictate cp cost, or how much time you want to invest shifting items around warehouses ** i would personally do titanium/vanadium, palm, then as i find out how much time i like to spend afk processing and if i want to afk more, add mediah, and then calpheon/bronze if i really have nothing better to do, but likely the cp is better saved not spending it on calpheon/bronze unless you're a vet ** ores are in a really nice place where they can basically be done overnight, but timber is much heavier and has to be done during the day, thus adding crate types will not additively reduce your available time, but exponentially ** realistic money is ~80m/mo for both titanium/vanadium, ~30m/mo? for mediah, ~100m/mo? for calpheon, ~30m/mo? for bronze, and ~120m/mo? for steel (mats are gathered very quickly) ** as you add more crates to your empire, you move towards more trash crate locations and can add those for ez trade exp (don't expect more than 2k in each type of trash crate per month) ** if people make much more money than my suggested rough estimates, it's because they no-life it, and in that case you may as well no-life grinding and you'll be rewarded much more for it ** i don't make guides because i feel 'quickstart experience' isn't a good thing; i could setup infographics on topics that people didn't even realize was viable, but all it does is bring a bandwagon of people flocking towards get-rich-quick schemes and ruin the fun of those actually participating in the activity (ie: sailing being the most profitable money in the game by a factor of 5x over the 2nd quickest method, but that's all i'll say about that)
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
1) If is cheaper to go the delphe route than it is to take the heidel pass because you are connecting Old Wisdom to Velia to Valencia. 2) Zinc nodes are expensive, but provide materials for brass, with some even giving platinum ore. 3) The reason I opt out of the Arehaza route is the fact that many people are lazy and don't want to go to Valencia to get materials out of bank and process them. For that reason I suggest Ancado lodging and using those workers to gather the matts. This way is more CP intensive, but allows players to send matts to be processed. I do agree that loding is P2W and the best investment of your money next to pets and weight. I also appreciate you taking your time to comment as you provided some details and options I did not in the video. As for making 2bil a month this is extremely viable for anyone that doesn't mind leaving their game on while they sleep, work, and play other games. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/155971776344489985/408762058025467915/Monthy_earnings.png
@Teigrgwyn
@Teigrgwyn 6 жыл бұрын
you don't need to use valencian workers, can still save 1cp by using arehaza route and using ancado workers fine i'd expect i guess the velia path depends on preference, you save 1cp by doing maple in forest of seclusion AND corn in toscani, but save 1-3 cp by going through heidel pass if you don't have any sub-node investments in either of the two nodes if sunflower crates accounted for half the income, i would've emphasized it more during the video lol; efficiency-wise (and better for newbs) would be to get those fences up so asap they can make 50% of the profit with ~1/3 the cp requirement; i didn't even know about that (and may do it over some of my node network considering i'm struggling finding available cp)
@aligr3224
@aligr3224 5 жыл бұрын
i process when i sleep/work and grind my free hours, i make 2b a month from afk while im still active grinding. :)
@dronad6125
@dronad6125 6 жыл бұрын
So you got all your workers collecting resources around the world, you send all those resources to Calpheon where you personally process it yourself, you use the Ash and Maple in Balenos crates, Birch/Fir and Cedar in Calpheon crates, Copper/Zinc in Brass crates, iron/coal Steel crates. After you've personally processed all the plywood/bars you put it all back into the storage in Calpheon and have your artisan workers from old Wisdom tree make them into those crates in Calpheon. Then you get on an alt below level 50 (So he doesn't get pvpd?) and transfer all of those crates you made in Calpheon to some city in the desert and sell them at their trade manager?(Do i need to follow the node path, or just go the fastest route? From Calph to Desert city) I need a certain trade level? Sorry for all this, I'm noob and trying to understand the system you're doing while also maximizing it lol. But have I basically got this right? It's missing farming and those later ores in deserts, but I better just learn the basics first.
@forbiden1151
@forbiden1151 6 жыл бұрын
Im not the content creator. You have this right. Except once you get to the desert switch to main (or master 2 trading ult) use the shrine buff then trade them into manager.
@dronad6125
@dronad6125 6 жыл бұрын
Cool thanks a lot! But what is the shrine buff and the more important thing lol, how do I get all the crates onto my alt and also how does my alt get them to the desert? I read horse stacking somewhere but I don't know what that is. I'm really new.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Don't apologize, you seem to have it all down. You want the alt under level 50 so it can't die because if a horse dies while carrying crates, you lose most of the crates aka billions. I suggest you take the road route and be careful of bandits (don't leave the room while auto pathing). You can take the fastest route, but if a mob kills your horse it is ggwp. I suggest taking a look at my farming video since farming is where almost half the money comes from this guide. Please ask any more questions down below c:
@spicysweetness6095
@spicysweetness6095 5 жыл бұрын
You can use trade wagon now to transfer the crates instead of delivering to valencia yourself. 30,000lt = 1k crates max
@mrcorbak6793
@mrcorbak6793 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but I have a basic question : when you make crates, the materials have to be in the town where the workbench is, or in the town where the workers are from ?
@Cozc47
@Cozc47 6 жыл бұрын
Every time i do the math with the crate calc, making all these crates, stacking, and turning them in with trade buff is only around 20% additional profit from processing everything and tossing it on the market after the 15% tax. so basically youre going through all this to avoid market taxes For me it seems like waiting for crafting, and breaking my wrist stacking horses is way more than 20% additional effort. I could have the cp used for workshops instead used for farms, which if you grow something like special strawberries is around 10m/day profit if you are able to keep buying seeds off mp im sure im missing something here, so enlighten me if that is the case.
@MT95p
@MT95p 6 жыл бұрын
nice video trollsies and thanks for your contribution to the bdo comunity!
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
glad to help c:
@eXoliptik
@eXoliptik 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, cannot wait for the farm one!!!
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Farm Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKGXYqOieppnm68
@dronad6125
@dronad6125 6 жыл бұрын
When you do your next crate sell trip could you please record the whole thing and upload that it'll be super helpful, and I mean everything :p
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
lol we will see, busy with school rn so not really even playing all that much
@MostIntresting
@MostIntresting 6 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Gonna try this as soon as I can
@vishiouss25L
@vishiouss25L 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this type of video it's really helpful for people like me with very few CP.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
np~
@ilyanna19
@ilyanna19 6 жыл бұрын
Good vid, good tips on some nodes out past Valencia I didn't pay attention to (sort of a new player). I also like your sea route for connecting to Ancado, I never thought of that way - I need to get out on my sailboat more often lol. I also have a couple suggestions for your next video that I hope you don't take offense to! Cienaga - see EN ah gah (assuming this is derived from Spanish) Vanadium -- vah NAY dee um Acacia - uh KAY sha
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
My pronunciation of words will always be flawled and I refuse to learn! My ignorance will die with me ;)
@ilyanna19
@ilyanna19 6 жыл бұрын
@rebellion700
@rebellion700 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the follow up Trollsies. Why not send Grana workers to Calph benches? Wouldn't the distance bonus be bigger? Is Wisdom Tree just recommended because of the ease in rolling artisans? If i'm at 288 CP grinding to 300 should I be using workbenches in Grana and not use Calpheon at all? I think most people do Grana bench + Trent benches. I've been stockpiling materials from my empire for 3.5 months and have never traded. I'm getting ready to reconfigure my empire for production and start processing haha
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
You send Grana workers to Grana and Old Wisdom workers to Calpheon. The ease of rolling +3 workers in Old Wisdom is so good that using trent workers instead is just a waste. Then there's the fact that Old Wisdom workers are cheaper than Trent workers. This is because shops in Calpheon are all 1-2 cp and require no previous buildings, where Trent workshops require sets of buildings to be bought and the buildings themselves are much more expensive. Hope that clarified some things, if not, comment below.
@anime-girlfriend
@anime-girlfriend 6 жыл бұрын
so to get the extra workers in old wisdom tree we have to buy the p2w extra worker slots from kama? and the materials have to be in calpheon?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Matts go to old wisdom tree. Since that is where the workers originate.
@anime-girlfriend
@anime-girlfriend 6 жыл бұрын
Trollsies ty!
@TheAleksanderNess
@TheAleksanderNess 6 жыл бұрын
I have a big question and that is how you get all your resources to the city you need to build in? Say you have lots of stuff in Calph, you get an alt and carrie the stuff to old tree?
@MrLazyleader
@MrLazyleader 6 жыл бұрын
Actually you can also buy lodging at shui farm instead of tarif, since it's cheaper. Then you save the 3cp you have to spent in the guard camp to send the heidel worker to mediah
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
That is a neat idea, but investing in that node ends up costing alot. In my more recent guide, I have a more optimal connection path. Good idea though for players that don't P2W lodging!
@MorphitIRL
@MorphitIRL 6 жыл бұрын
It was low at first but i did what most people with a brain do. I turned up the volume. =p Great guide btw.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
haha yea encoding problem, glad you enjoyed~
@cytomatrix
@cytomatrix 6 жыл бұрын
Yea until you get some stupid notification from windows 10 and rip ears. lol. But yea I had to turn up the volume alot.
@DiegoDlp28
@DiegoDlp28 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Trollsies, i have a doubt. Once you p2w the lodging spaces, you have to work with your workers until they get the special x3-x2 crate development, when do u know they dont gonna get it so you must fire them? or u can p2w the ability also? thanks :)
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
at level 1, it is a bit of an annoying and long process, but pays off in the end
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
no way to p2w that one haha
@DiegoDlp28
@DiegoDlp28 6 жыл бұрын
Trollsies already made it! thanks a lot i understand it :)
@Bl2EAKIN
@Bl2EAKIN 6 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next video, hope you touch up in more detail on how to manage the farms as well as... where do I actually sit processing? Calpheon? Also can you please elaborate a little more on where to send workers from on each node?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Going to do farming video soon. Also doesn't matter where you process. Some like to go from city to city, others like to seend mats to one place and process there. Up to you. However I personally chop in calpheon. As for workers, if I didn't say specifically that "x" workers goes "xxxx", then you use the worker from the town/territory closest to it possible with current connections.
@Bl2EAKIN
@Bl2EAKIN 6 жыл бұрын
Top notch content fam, thanks.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Farm Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKGXYqOieppnm68
@fobo8027
@fobo8027 4 жыл бұрын
One thing I don't understand, you have spots for like 8 workers in the velia region but you only get 6 lodgings in velia, do you send workers from Heidel?
@Lenny-zn8hn
@Lenny-zn8hn 6 жыл бұрын
the BladeBoques node - killed it xD
@hexx-im1tf
@hexx-im1tf 6 жыл бұрын
Lenny the fact that you even mentioned Blade is enough do discredit anything you say. This is a streamer who publicly admitted to exploiting and was planning a PEN attempt with Rosar items for stacks. He sucks at the game and copied his node system off of multiple others. If you pay attention to Trollsies, he actually has real knowledge of what he is talking about. Imagine...multiple people having a very similar node system in a game where hundreds of thousands of people are playing daily. Wow, that's just unheard of! They must've copied it off of one person, for sure (immense sarcasm implied).
@cooobe1352
@cooobe1352 6 жыл бұрын
Okay so Trollsies said "the Bladeboques node" so I guess the same goes for him?
@hexx-im1tf
@hexx-im1tf 6 жыл бұрын
Never heard Trollsies say it or read where he said it, but honestly don't care either. I stand by my comment about Blade. He is horrible at this game and sucks his information from sources he doesn't give credit to. At the end of the day, I honestly don't care anyway...it's just a game.
@tominotopia
@tominotopia 6 жыл бұрын
hexx1810 maybe watch the video first
@Teigrgwyn
@Teigrgwyn 6 жыл бұрын
i think you are too new at the game to understand how nodes effectively work; all this guy is saying is 'do all the crates' which isn't even 2b a month but we'll say it is: he's doing what every other competitive person is already doing
@PraiseTheSun-qp5sh
@PraiseTheSun-qp5sh 6 жыл бұрын
hey Trollsies,thx for the video.It helps a lot.And i do have a question for u.You only have one ore workshop and one timber workshop according to ur video,but there are like 3 or 4 kinds of crates.How to balance that?Thx in advance!!!
@decapitareth4722
@decapitareth4722 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that some node have been removed? for example "Cedar timber" node in "Oze Pass" and "Trace of Forest" in "Rhua Tree Stub"?
@Charstray
@Charstray 6 жыл бұрын
It's not removed. You need to go to the exact location by yourself and speak to the node manager. The node then will revealed on yout world map.
@eklipze7520
@eklipze7520 6 жыл бұрын
great video btw, do you only use the Old Wisdom Tree Papau for making crates or do you also assign them to Trent/upper tree nodes?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, for the 250 cp guide
@mathongames3lb
@mathongames3lb 5 жыл бұрын
You sound like one particular League of legends coach/streamer called LS
@SuperHardcorestyle
@SuperHardcorestyle 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, awsome video really helped me getting my stuff ready but i still have 1 problem i dont understand.. where do i "buy" my workers for all the nodes where i farm my coal, wood etc and if its lets say calpheon do i transport all the farmed materials to old wisdom tree how do i handle this + where do i need to buy the lodging? :) thanks in advance
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Uhm. I suggest you p2w all of your lodging, that way you save out on a lot of cp. Even when you p2w lodging you will still need some lodging in the bigger cities like Velia/Calpheon, as well as up to 10 lodging slots to have workers manage farms. You buy workers from worker managers (icon looks like a pickaxe). As for how to handle matts, I personally send all unprocessed matts to calpheon and process there. Once the matts are processed I send them to grana/old wisdom. You do not need to have cities connected to transport goods, but you do need silver in the bank, so just put like 5mil in each city :D
@SuperHardcorestyle
@SuperHardcorestyle 6 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for your answer :) how many workers do u recommend for mainting all farming nodes + can u go with p2w lodging + normall ones but only from calpheon so i dont need to send so much raw mats around?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
you can only have 10 workers for farming, so 10
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
and yes that is fine to do for calph/your main city
@Redjuicey
@Redjuicey 6 жыл бұрын
Trollsies Can workers run the farms now? I thought a player needs to do all the weeding and planting and harvesting? Thanks
@Despacito4k
@Despacito4k 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! Subed alrdy :D Question. I alrdy moved from Heidel to Grana. Got my storage up and so on. Should i add youre thing to my + Grana? So making crates in Grana (2x) & in Calpheon (4x) ? is it worth or should i bench my "2x" in Grana and just take the CP to get more nodes for mats? Alrdy i got 300CP and all are used into storage&nodes&benches/worker. None in farming :S
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Unless your Grana workers have +3 Timber, Ore, and Produce then I suggest you also get Old Wisdom Tree too. Personally, I would p2w city storage and lodging so that all of your CP can go towards farms. Farming makes me about 1 BII a month, and with your cp, 700 extra mil would be guaranteed as long as you are a semi active player. However, if you don't process for 8+ hours a day, or want to start start farming at all, then grana is the only major city you need.
@Despacito4k
@Despacito4k 6 жыл бұрын
Okay thx, 1 more question. U got youre 4 benches, for youre crates. But where do you make youre wood -> plywood or ore -> steel? So u need somewhere more work benches
@robinabrey6295
@robinabrey6295 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Trollsies. I am a complete noob when it comes to trading but your video has inspired me to give it a try. Is it mandatory to hold off until you get the +3 Papu workers? I have spent hours (days) and a ton of energy and $ and have not had any RNG go my way. Should I just start with any 4 Papu and keep trying to get them as I go or is it mandatory to wait until you have the +3s? Thanks in advance and thanks again for the great video.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
It is really best to just suck it up and keep rolling. Thats what I had to do even though it killed me inside. I don't suggest you get involved with non +3 Papu's in Old Wisdom. If you really don't wana roll, just use Grana Workers to make Grana Crates, and remove your Calpheon workshops.
@PokeNash
@PokeNash 6 жыл бұрын
Do your workers process so its completely AFK other than posting on Marketplace? Or do you process by hand? Sorry...im new.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Cody Sutherland never make workers process it is terrible
@NY-qb5bq
@NY-qb5bq 6 жыл бұрын
What do you make in the mineral and wood crate? Do you manually chop the wood into plank or have a worker craft it.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
always manually chop
@egghead2048
@egghead2048 6 жыл бұрын
where do you hoard all the materials? in calpheon? do only the 4 old wisdom tree workers make the crates? and the others gather? do you personally process the plywood/etc. ? do you also send all the material from other towns, to calpheon ?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
You have to process your own plywood, workers are a terrible method. You send materials you want to crate to Old Wisdom / Grana. Once the materials are there, you send workers from your city of choice ([Old Wisdom Tree to Calpheon] or [Grana to Grana]) to a workbench. I just use Calpheon to process my materials because having everything in one city simplifies things.
@egghead2048
@egghead2048 6 жыл бұрын
hey trollsies, i have another question, im currently aquiring workers, i took fadus personally, but i have 2 workers with +3 timber crates, 1 crop and 1 ore, is that an issue? shouldnt there be 2 timber since that is our main crate basically? i had a hard time aquiring these :D energy and silverwise. so i just wanna make sure before i fire 1 timber worker. can you tell me your reasoning or if that even is necessary to change?
@syclongaming2993
@syclongaming2993 5 жыл бұрын
hello good sir :) just a quick question :) what workers i should use for the nodes? just goblins or just giants? thanks for the great video btw :)
@ZoKKeRFreAK
@ZoKKeRFreAK 5 жыл бұрын
for 150 workload nodes you want goblins with >150 workspeed to finish them in one tick. for the 200 ones you can use humans, cuz you will need 2 ticks anyways, no matter if you use goblin or human. that's if you are playing alot. if you don't play much you might want to go more for humans/giants cuz they work much longer unattended.
@feliperajada3721
@feliperajada3721 6 жыл бұрын
how many calpheon do you sell for month? and how much money do you make with it? only calpheon
@desperatechihuahua7035
@desperatechihuahua7035 6 жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight, You get all nodes then send / carry all meterials to Calpheon, Process everything. Then you use Grana / old wisdom workers to craft the crates in Calpheon workshops but the crates will be in Grana / old wisdom then you carry the crates from grana / old wisdom all the way to the desert to a trade manager? And I have some questions: Can you use remote collection on your mounts while carrying many crates? won't you lose some if you do? how many crates should I have before start the journey? Do I need the Maid Custom for the processing? or is it fine without it? Still don't understand which crates are trash and which are not. Do I need to lvl up the trading to master 2 before starting? if so, how?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Old wisdom workers make grana crates. Grana workers make grana crates. Send all crates to your major city to process, or go to each city to process the materials. Send materials to the cities in which the workers reside, not necessarily the city where the workshops are i.e. calpheon. You cannot remote collect, will lose almost all crates 7.2k is max, but can do any number if in need of silver Maid costume is best for 2+ hours of afk, but not required if doing something else for afk sleep income I did not show any trash crates in the video. Trash crates are (Iron ore, copper ore, ash timber). You simply buy the base level of these materials and have workers crate them (no processing done). This is only done to get art 1/m2 trading, for the buff. You only need art 1 now, but getting master before turning in very valuable crates will help, since you get a higher bargain value the higher your trading level. Hope that helps!
@desperatechihuahua7035
@desperatechihuahua7035 6 жыл бұрын
You saying grana and old sidom tree workers are making the crates but in the video you say to get the workshops in Calpheon? I'm confused. If you cannot remote collect so how I saw a video of someone taking out lvl 1 horses from stable with thousands of crates and he had more than 4 horses? I understand the maid outfit is only good for 2+ hours but is this method for trading still efficient without one? Also you said that you should get a character below lvl 50 to do the trading but I see your doing the trading on your main?
@davidvolin332
@davidvolin332 6 жыл бұрын
How are you consolidating raw materials to process them into what you need for the crates? Are you running between cities every now and then or using the transport system?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
I send everything to Calpheon to simplify things. Some prefer to go from city to city, but that is too much of a bother to me.
@shaungibbs5429
@shaungibbs5429 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, great guide, quick question, can you do the quests to get the trade buff on a level 49? as ppl recommend using lower than 50 character so not to get pvp'd
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Said this in reply to a similar comment, but you are only using a level 49 alt to transfer the crates from Old Wisdom stable to Valencia stable. Not using that character to turn the crates into the vender.
@shaungibbs5429
@shaungibbs5429 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did see that, but wondered if I could do it all on my lifeskiller, but I guess it's not too much effort to swap. I also wondered how many hours you leave the game running a day to make that amount of silver. I look forward to more videos from you, you've gained a new follower
@lllusslon
@lllusslon 6 жыл бұрын
Hey what do you prefer? I have all of those nodes after your video but im confused, should i Process and Sell them on MP or Make them Crates and Trade? what do you prefer? thanks..
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
crates
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
crate and trade
@rvo757
@rvo757 6 жыл бұрын
Great video but what about lodging/type of workers/preferred worker skills/origin of workers for each node specific? You mentioned the old wisdom tree ones and altinova ore ones. But what about the rest?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
i kinda go over that near the end of my most recent video. goblins > humans if can feed every hour. humans > goblins if not. goblins > humans always if travel distance is long.
@Interscepter
@Interscepter 6 жыл бұрын
Also, I assume you don't profit from the sunflower crates unless you produce them yourself by farming?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
correct
@ronsonnswandom5247
@ronsonnswandom5247 6 жыл бұрын
I finally landed on +3 ore for papu artisan worker at old wisdom tree! It only took like 4 months and 500 fire/rehire of different papus!
@kizenic9099
@kizenic9099 6 жыл бұрын
when the 300 cp video cames out? also I didn't got it what crates you doing in each town/city?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
5/7/18 Monday, and just the crates from old wisdom tree
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ6ck6GnbZVjoas
@Klinxen999
@Klinxen999 5 жыл бұрын
More and more i lose the faith in getting a papu worker with +3 wood crates , i've tried it over a month now with so much energy.
@Hextrinix
@Hextrinix 6 жыл бұрын
I never leveled Trading. So that means i should save all the crates you mention in your video until i have M2? What are those junk crates that i need to level my trading and how do i make them, I don't see them in the workshop. Thank you for putting effort in this video, it really helps new/old returning players.
@MemoriesAreLost
@MemoriesAreLost 6 жыл бұрын
Junk/trash crates refers to something like Iron Ore Crate (e.g. something your workers can gather a lot of). You lose silver through the cost of the iron ore and black stone powder, but it's one of the fastest ways to level trading with minimal effort actually put into trading.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Art 2 is fine to trade in crates now, but if you wana min max you can easily hold out into Master 2 for a bonus 50mil ish on 7k timber bargains. Junk crates are any timber/ore you find in bulk on the market. Just buy 10k+ and crate it at base level. Once you have 7k of a particular material, then run it over to Anacado. MAKE SURE NODES ARE CONNECTED! The junk crates are just called ash timber crate, or copper ore crate.
@GenericName007
@GenericName007 6 жыл бұрын
So what exactly should you be making if you're just starting out with life skills? I have 300 cp but I haven't bothered much with life skills so my life skills are kind of crap. Was wanting to start working on this so eventually I can make some money this way. I've set up most of my nodes based on your 300+ cp video not certain what crates I should be making or how many, just everything? Once you make them do you use a trade cart to hall them yourself or just send them via the in-game system?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
No trade cart. You just stack crates up to 7.1k on a horse. Put horse into trainer and take out on an alt under level 50. That way you can safely transfer crates. As for life skills, just process, trade, and gather. Gather anything tbh. I suggest butcher knifes at sheep hill, as the meat can be used in cooking later on.
@Bobby-zw2un
@Bobby-zw2un 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Trollsies! I wished I’ve discovered your videos earlier but better late than never. Im a new player(2months old) & i havent got the time to actively grinding due to work so im looking for another way to make silvers. I followed your exact nodes on ur previous video but I only got 260 cp and later found out that it wasnt enough after hours of connecting the nodes manually lol feelsbad. I have a few questions to ask 1. Im currently playing in SEA server & we don’t have Kama out yet, any alternatives to this? 2. Im currently power leveling trading on my lvl 17 alt but I just read somewhere that I would need to be lvl 55 to obtain the desert buff(via quest), is this true? If so, then how would I counter the fact that I could get killed while riding my horse to trade these items? 3. If you dont mind, is there any way to connect with you so i could ask you questions easier. Many thanks in advance man!
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the videos! If you don't have kama yet, you are forced to make sunflower crates in port rat. For ore and timber you just make them in trent. Use beverant amity workers for the 2 ore workshops, and art goblins for the 3 wood workshops. You might have to mess around with nodes a bit. Just remember to get the 3 workshops that you sent trent workers to (Trent, Longleaf, Bher). I do believe the level 55 req is true, but I am not 100% sure. 55 can be achieved in a day though, so wouldn't be a big deal if not. Best way to transfer crates is to stack them on a horse using a low level character. Once you reach Valencia City, just put horse in the stable, and head over on your main to trade them in. You can always message me on discord Trollsies#7444, but I get lost in messages sometimes, but always reply here eventually. Discord if i don't reply in a day, i probably never will xD
@LoLXros
@LoLXros 6 жыл бұрын
Where do you place your farms for sunflowers? Also do you just harvest them or do you water them as well.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Farming video coming soon :D , but yes i harvest and breed, as well as water and fertilize them.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Farm Video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eKGXYqOieppnm68
@MrNageljo
@MrNageljo 6 жыл бұрын
hey quick question here! I currently produce calpheon timber boxes in trent shall i stop that and let them produce by an old wisdom tree worker?+ i have 40 cp over when do u release the 300 cp video?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
300 CP video should be out near the end of this month, might be slight delay because of college.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Invest into Grana and get a wood workbench, x2 crop factories, and a mineral workbench there. Then send majority of materials (excluding sunflowers) to Grana instead of Old Wisdom.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ6ck6GnbZVjoas
@26Limone
@26Limone 6 жыл бұрын
Really thanks a lot for this video. I wanted starting money with life skill and your video really help me. What you think about Herb crates ? only found 1 old tree wisdom worker with that at this time.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
herb sucks, produce only
@ZinzionXBL
@ZinzionXBL 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Trollsies, fellow tamer here! I really appreciate you making the 250 CP video I’ve been looking all over for something like it. I just have a few questions. I am at 217 cp right now. What should/could I do for the rest of the cp I need? Should I level trading on a lvl 49 so nobody can kill me and ruin my trade goods or is it not that much of a problem? And which city is your main hub being that it looks like a lot of your logs comes from calph. Right now my main hub is heidel but this weekend I want to buy some lodging and storage with pearls but I didn’t know if keeping heidel as my main hub and putting money into storage would be a bad idea being a little away from calph. What’s your opinion on the main hub? Thank you so much!
@GuardPhil
@GuardPhil 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah would like to know answer as well just moved most of my stuff into heidel
@QTJoe
@QTJoe 6 жыл бұрын
I believe having trading on a character that’s level 49 won’t allow you to get the desert buff. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure you have to be like lvl55 or something.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
You level trading on your main or an alt, doesn't matter. All that matters is that you transport crates on a character under level 50, so that people do not flag up and kill you (make you lose crates). Once your level 49 alt transfers all of the crates over, you just stash the horse in the stable keeper, and head over on your main/trade alt.
@happyoldMEN
@happyoldMEN 6 жыл бұрын
What's your thoughts on adding Behr Riverhead Tin off of Phoniel's cabin? Only 2 more CP required
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Great if you already have 10 plain fences, but if not, then don't bother.
@RaahDzn
@RaahDzn 6 жыл бұрын
Do I have to water my farms or anything other than use the Fertilizer like you mentioned? And how do I see if the Fertilizer is applied correctly?
@Aaron-x1g
@Aaron-x1g 6 жыл бұрын
Velia is the perfect place for farming because you don't need to water your crops. BDO has a sort of climate system that takes factor in cases like this.
@Mike-vl9zj
@Mike-vl9zj 6 жыл бұрын
Why dont you use the trent / behr work benches for old wisdom tree workers? what am i missing here? distance is quite a bit shorter
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Trent and Bheg work shops are all quite pricey when compared to calpheon, and we are only talking about a 3min difference. This is what I do with my 330+ CP, but since this is a budget guide, I felt the CP was better spent elsewhere.
@nellow9864
@nellow9864 6 жыл бұрын
I am extremely confused about the OWT workers that you recommend. After a week or so I have managed to hire 1 Papu Artisan who had +3 produce. I have spent well over a thousand energy and millions of silver rolling the workers, and am only a fourth of the way there. At this rate it will take me a month of using most of my AFK process energy and 100m-200m silver... but you mentioned it so casually and made it sound like something that can be done over night? Am I missing something really important to this process, because the video gives no proper warning of how long it can take or how expensive it can get? Disclaimer - I am new to all of this, so it might be something really silly on my end that I misunderstood
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
i just bought energy elix and sat there for a few day, wasnt a big deal
@xMimzi
@xMimzi 6 жыл бұрын
Hai i'm actually a major lifeskiller myself. You mentioned how going through Delphine Knights castle route is actually cheaper in your video. Sadly Biraghi's den is 3 cp, Delphines is 3cp and dias farm is 2 CP. so you are using 8 CP to get across. However going under delphines castle if you already have norther planes of serendia only costs 5 CP. each node way until Falres Dirt farm is 1 cp besides the farm which is 2 cp. So you are saving a good 3 cp by going under and not through. You also have it going from Forest of seclusion to the bandit's Den byway that is another 3cp to ad to your chain when it is honestly cheaper from to do your node system from Norther plains ( which you own) -> Bradie fortress -> Oze Pass -> Marni farm ruins -> Falres Dirt farm. So you are spending 11 cp for an easy 5 cp route :C
@xMimzi
@xMimzi 6 жыл бұрын
Watching further into your video now actually The way outside of heidal to head towards tarif isn't cheaper either it's actually the same amount if you don't have any of the farm nodes invested in. Moretti's plantation is 2 cp alone So is kamasyliva temple. While Eastern boarder is 3 cp and Eastern Gateway is 3cp. Either way does work ^_^
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Hey I appreciate you taking the time to comment with node names and everything, but either I am not seeing what you are seeing, or vise versa. You have to take Dias Farm regardless of the route because that is what connects you to Northern Wheat Plantation A.K.A. the major connection between two of the calpheon wood nodes. So I don't think counting that into the path's cp cost is fair. Now as for how you connect to Heidel. The problem with what you suggested is you aren't taking into consideration that you must connect Old Wisdom/Grana to Valencia. Unless you are going by land, you still have to connect Heidel/Calpheon to Velia. The cheapest way to do this was shown in the video by connecting Calpheon, but if you were to connect Heidel instead, it would cost 6 CP from the Northern Guard Pass and Heidel Pass nodes. As for your second paragraph I am a bit confused what the difference is between the two. If you would like to msg me on discord I would love to come to an agreement and see eye to eye. As I just don't see how your way could be cheaper, but I could just be blind lol. Discord: Trollsies#7444
@xMimzi
@xMimzi 6 жыл бұрын
yes and no there is 2 different farms you can actually connect to ^_^ to get to calpheon but it's really just depends on if you are trying to do. I know if people are doing Trading they wanna go the cheapest route :D. i agree with the rests of your nodes for sure~ it's just that small little path between heidal to calpheon. I loved watching the video and learned a bit as well that would help me as well later on. Sorry if i seemed rude i just love to talk and discuss these things to learn and teach others as well :) I have added you if you wanna discuss or even see what i mean maybe i can explain your questions better on voice. Hope to hear from you soon.
@xMimzi
@xMimzi 6 жыл бұрын
I have already had the discussion with the KZbinr :) thanks though. I was trying to figure out what they meant because if it wasn't for the fact some people do a different system some are much shorter then others for w/e you are trying to do so i'm not really wrong. I was talking about the fact for Cheaper CP usage it is best to go the other way.they were just doing a much different system then i am. So please do have a good day :) and no need to be insulting. I already have a dande so i don't need that node. i have all my nodes connected and switch around constantly with whatever lifeskill i am currently working on ^_^ however i do not have those things connected either way as i am not trading. so i do not need to have heidal pass route connected at the current moment. I know understand what the youtuber was talking about after a discussion with them.
@michaelpittino7680
@michaelpittino7680 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, great video! I got a question: How do I know which workers (from what city) I send to the nodes?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Proximity, but i also included a chart in the description, saying what worker to put where.
@rokahdaniel85
@rokahdaniel85 6 жыл бұрын
Do you use only the 4 artisan workers from old wisdom tree to make all these crates?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
yes
@marcindedek6478
@marcindedek6478 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there thanks for this tutorial , can you make another about what you doing later with all those mats, so how you making crate and all the rest up to seling time ? Thanks Buddy keep it good work
@Aaron-x1g
@Aaron-x1g 6 жыл бұрын
I just got an artisan papu worker at old wisdom tree, it has the +3 wheat/veggie but the work speed to calpheon is like 45 minutes Is that just because it's level 1? Will it get faster once I get it up? 7 minutes seems like a pretty serious drop
@NeonWiz
@NeonWiz 6 жыл бұрын
Aaron K since the worker has +3 every time it goes it males 4 crates. Some simple math later 45mins/4 crates per run =11.25mins per crate so yeah it can drop to 7 mins per crate once you level it up.
@trolledyousilly220
@trolledyousilly220 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of workers should I use? Goblins/Human/Giant?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Goblins: Constantly check in / play actively Humans: Periodically check in and afk Giants: Login once a day and afk
@gurgur8845
@gurgur8845 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, You said it is 7.5 mins per crate craft time with +3 Papu Workers from Old wisdom tree to Calpheon. Is this true? I am crafting in Trent for Calpheon timber and trash crates using old wisdom workers, but its like 21mins. Although it is only lv6 +3 papu workers. Thanks in advance.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
I said some amount of time like that because I divided the actual craft time (30min) by 4, since thats how long it takes to craft a single crate. Therefor you get, 14-15 crates an hour. I forget the exact math I used, but something similar.
@wynterg7483
@wynterg7483 6 жыл бұрын
U can actually connect your titanium and vanadium node from valencia / arehaza, it saves you 1 CP
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
yes, but you are then unable to transport the crates, forcing you to walk out to valencia
@ajmszofelyn8298
@ajmszofelyn8298 6 жыл бұрын
Trollsies so when u made those crates u sending it to valencia and then on horse or need to ride with this crates from caplheon?
@Lenny-zn8hn
@Lenny-zn8hn 6 жыл бұрын
First of all, thanks for sharing a good setup! Questions: 1. Do you have p2w ALL worker space? (it lokks like you did) 2. can you upload screenshots from all cities where you have workers sitting in? (i mean the city overview and the worker tab in this specific city) 3. What you did with left over 114 cp? 4. am i able to do all this (workerspace + storage if needed) without p2w with my 272 CP AND am i still gonna have left over CP for farms? so i can see where you send your workers, bc you didnt explained at each node
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
1) Get all but Valencia storage 2) just follow amount of nodes in each place and you will be fine, only have to add workers to town you have farms in. 3) will show in 300-350cp guide 4) farming video will explain more but yes you want at least 10 farms with 7 slots.
@Lenny-zn8hn
@Lenny-zn8hn 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for replying :) But is it also okay, to use the Fadus Artisan Workers in Old Wisdom Tree instead of the Papu ones, bc they are really hard to get and thats extreme energy burning? however they have 30 workspeed less, but with +3 stuff they shoul also be okay,no? you have any tips on that worker issue?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Lenny since you can re roll workers endlessly, just do papa. It will work with fades but not nearly as well.
@Lenny-zn8hn
@Lenny-zn8hn 6 жыл бұрын
Trollsies ah alright, i already rolled 2 +3 ore papus, im keeping them instead of 2x +3 grain ones, bc i often am at pilgrims to farm stone things. is the 2x grain ones that important or is one of them enough?
@dennisbaauw
@dennisbaauw 6 жыл бұрын
Im wondering why you do not keep the gathering towns connected so you can ship your timer/ores to 1 city for processing? how do you manage that? (I dont have a VP to connect/disconnect whenever I want)
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
you can still ship when not connected
@giggusmaximus2167
@giggusmaximus2167 6 жыл бұрын
Question my man. Why do you not recommend the ore and coal nodes around between keplan and calpheon
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
I only don't recommend the one, because it requires about 9cp for a single coal node, and to me that is not worth it.
@giggusmaximus2167
@giggusmaximus2167 6 жыл бұрын
Ah okay cool cool of course yeah looking at it now it's a little costly on the CP. right on
@JasonVGG
@JasonVGG 6 жыл бұрын
Wait so, you have the workers in old wisdom tree. You have trent workers go gather wood, but doesn't that wood go to trent? How do the old wisdom tree workers go get that wood to make into crates?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Workers gather from nodes, you send materials to your main city, chop the wood there, send plywood to old wisdom tree.
@johnfetalvero3062
@johnfetalvero3062 6 жыл бұрын
In this video, is 7x10 farms included in the 250 cp? If not, how do I manage it? What nodes to give up to get the farms?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
yes it does, but it doesnt include lodging or storage
@Echicen25
@Echicen25 6 жыл бұрын
Is the 300+ cp video coming out, or is the serie over? ^^
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
working on it now, got caught up with school and had to quit bdo for a bit
@Echicen25
@Echicen25 6 жыл бұрын
okay ^^
@mystilass481
@mystilass481 6 жыл бұрын
Yay can't wait and thanks for the prev vids, very helpful ;)
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
By Monday night it should be done rendering/uploading!
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ6ck6GnbZVjoas
@Ibral.Senuoy
@Ibral.Senuoy 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Trollsies, which sort of workers i need to use for the Notes to get timber. Gobs or humans
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Both can be used, i prefer goblins since i am on almost 24/7, if not on that often humans are a much better choice for short-medium distances. However, goblins must be used for long distances like from Old Wisdom Tree - Calpheon.
@Ibral.Senuoy
@Ibral.Senuoy 6 жыл бұрын
OK. How you use ur workers from Old Wisdom Tree. They tell me, i need my materials in the storage from Old Wisdom Tree that my workers work in Calpheon.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
materials in old wisdom, workshops in calpheon
@ronsonnswandom5247
@ronsonnswandom5247 6 жыл бұрын
Can you explain why it is better to keep your workshops at lv1 instead of lv2? It seems like you can make 5x more crates at lv2 workshop
@PraiseTheSun-qp5sh
@PraiseTheSun-qp5sh 6 жыл бұрын
same question bro:)
@Lithaleon
@Lithaleon 5 жыл бұрын
In case your question hasn't been answered in 8 months (Which surely it has) it makes 5 times the crates, but takes 6 times the time.
@TotteThorsen
@TotteThorsen 6 жыл бұрын
Hi! Just got back into the game after a month break! Would you advice me to do this node setup when i've already have set up Trent with +3 workers?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
If you already have +3 trent workers, then just use the trent workshop and use extra cp for farming, and to advance to Grana for more crates. +3 Trent > +3 Wisdom. Msg on discord for a personal setup C:
@TotteThorsen
@TotteThorsen 6 жыл бұрын
Trollsies pm'd on discord
@SFARRA_
@SFARRA_ 6 жыл бұрын
Looks like a magic for me. So after reaching 250CP (I guess it's a lot of work tho) I should be fine just by following his guide and leaving my character afk so my workers can Craft right? I'm still new to the game so any tips are really important.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Yea that is basically all there is to it. I suggest buying a maid outfit on your processing main so that you can afk process longer, but that is really the only tip I can give you that wasn't covered in this guide. If under 200 CP and are at computer for 15-20 hours a day (afk but can access a PC) then I suggest you just do 10 x 10 farms instead of a node empire at all. This will allow you to grind or do whatever else you wana do, but only manage farms ever 5 hours or so (takes 15min tops).
@TomSM5
@TomSM5 6 жыл бұрын
How many 10x10 farms do you get then? And where will i be making the sunflower crates (i assume i will be taking the crates to valencia and selling them there) ? Also does it matter where you grow the sunflowers? Is the node connection similar to this video? Perhaps one of these questions are stupid but i'd like to know definitely what i have to do. I am just under 200cp at 190.
@asmox
@asmox 6 жыл бұрын
Noticed you don't take any of the tin nodes around Calph, Northern Heidel Quarry, Serendia Shrine, Imp Cave, and a few other coal/ore/timber nodes that I take. I'm at 292 CP with 56 workers and I have almost every ore and timber node within reach of the major cities, minus Valencia/Grana - I feel like maybe I'm overstacking on these nodes. Do you feel there's a point where your workers are just generating too much of a single material and would be better spent diversifying a little? Keeping in mind that I don't trade and generally just process and sell T3 mats - so pretty much all of my passive/AFK income atm comes from processing. Would I be better served dropping some of my redundant nodes and investing the CP into another lifeskill? Other than trading anyways - I'm A2 but really not interested in the hassle that trading demands. Thanks.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
asmox main reason I don't take tin is because zinc is the more dominate resource that goes with copper. I could get I'm cave but the problem is the number of lodging spaces possible to get in velia. Also in 300cp guide will be slightly different.
@gianfrancodesantis341
@gianfrancodesantis341 6 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for 300-350 CP's video
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
5/7/18 Monday
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZ6ck6GnbZVjoas
@vladimirdanchev8732
@vladimirdanchev8732 6 жыл бұрын
Nice processing/trade set up. There's one elephant size problem with the guides of this type. You don't calculate the amount of cash spent to get it with that amount of cp, because you have large amount of money into it. For storage and lodging alone. Then comes the weight and outfit. Then comes the time needed to process. I don't really call anything afk if it's not self sustained for atleast 8h.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Vladimir Danchev it is impossible to AFK process for even half that time p2w or not. As for pearls required it is about 35 bucks or 50 if you want maid outfit. You don't need to buy storage with money or cp, but people generally like to consolidate things into one storage. Also this guide mentions this at the beginning, just not in detail because I'd rather provide a general way of making money than get into a p2w controversy.
@theparkers2004
@theparkers2004 6 жыл бұрын
At Old Wisdom Tree are you saying to buy and fire them if they don't have the crate skill as their first skill and keep doing this until I get one with the crates skill as the first skill
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
yes it takes awhile, but is worth it in the end
@idirbelaid1924
@idirbelaid1924 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos, I'm working on this setup now, I'm just wondering how to get the crates from kama/trent to valencia? Thank you again
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
horse, on under level 50 alt
@multaksama9771
@multaksama9771 4 жыл бұрын
@@Trollsies hello, i wanted to ask you should i level trading on said alt? instead of my main who has way more inventory slots and weight?
@許峻源-i7d
@許峻源-i7d 6 жыл бұрын
sorry, my English is bad I have some question 1.250CP include house?(warehouse,dorm room...) i dont spent cash on warehouse,dorm room ,so i worry about it ,i have 306CP 2.where should i hire worker to make tradebox and buy woodworkbench,crop factory?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
1) 306 CP should be enough if you don't want to p2w anything at all, just diversify storages so you don't spend so much on warehouses. 2) Hire Papu Workers in Grana, and buy workshops in Grana. PS: Your english is fine~
@許峻源-i7d
@許峻源-i7d 6 жыл бұрын
okok thank you I think I have to pay some money.I find my build cost 107CP T.T
@許峻源-i7d
@許峻源-i7d 6 жыл бұрын
Wisdom Wood's 4worker and Talipo's 3workers should go where?
@pbuffara
@pbuffara 6 жыл бұрын
Is it still worth selling special sunflower crates? i play in SA each sunflower costs 6.5k, i need 10 of it and 2.7k from black stone powder, 67.7k. Using the somnethinglovely calculator i saw i would get 61k per crat with desert buff, is that wright?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
You don't want to buy sunflowers off the market, only seeds, and make sure you are using 100% desert buff. You also have to bargain, and if you do all that, it is definitely still worth it!
@stephentan4566
@stephentan4566 6 жыл бұрын
i asked some high level traders in the lifeskill discord and they told me that old wisdom is a trap and that it isnt worth it
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand why anyone would say that Old Wisdom is a trap. Most high level traders have 300+ CP, so they probably don't care about low level CP guides in the first place. Old Wisdom is cheaper, more profitable, and better than Trent in every way. In my 300+ CP guide I will be showing how I use Grana as well as Old Wisdom. There is no reason to think Old Wisdom is a trap. If anything, it is the best Middle Tier CP city to make crates.
@Kaystoys
@Kaystoys 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome guide! I’m still trying to figure out my set up. I’m at 255 cp but I believe a majority of my cp is being tied up in storage houses in Heidel. I have no fir nodes or farms and I don’t even think I have old tree discovered yet. I’d love to make this kind of money with this set up. Any help fixing my setup would be appreciated!!
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
I suggest you either A: Buy storage with pearls, or B: Spread out all of your supplies to different storages like Keplan, Glish, and Olvia. Also just managing your bank should clear up some things, as well as, using alts and storage is great too!
@Kaystoys
@Kaystoys 6 жыл бұрын
Trollsies yeah I really should clean up my storage. I hoarded mats for alchemy at one time so I’ve got plants galore. So I take it your crafting the crates in old tree and sending them to ancado?
@theparkers2004
@theparkers2004 6 жыл бұрын
I have 2 questions do you transport all your resources to caltheon and how do you get all your creats to the trade in
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
yes, and just put them on horse on under level 50 alt
@TimEnjoysGnocchis
@TimEnjoysGnocchis 6 жыл бұрын
To clarify, do you want all the workers in calpheon to only collect materials and the grand tree 4 dudes to make everything? Also, how in the heck do you process all these raw materials? it'll take a gigantic amount of time to process all the wood ore etc
@vitor7sousa
@vitor7sousa 6 жыл бұрын
ye bro pretty much it, the artisan workers from old wisdom tree are the ones doing the crates, the rest just gather's enough resources so they work non stop
@TimEnjoysGnocchis
@TimEnjoysGnocchis 6 жыл бұрын
I pay 2wind those lodgings however for some reason cant get any more workers then 1, is it bugged or did I do smth wrong?
@vitor7sousa
@vitor7sousa 6 жыл бұрын
you have to buy the kamasylvia lodging expansion it gives +3 to kama and old wisdom tree maximum lodging, maybe you purchased the calpheon one by mistake?
@TimEnjoysGnocchis
@TimEnjoysGnocchis 6 жыл бұрын
I actually did. I am most certain. I bought kamasylvia lodging double checked and cant buy any more of those in the pearl shop: I got them all into my inventory right click enterd 3 times and still my limit is 1
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
yea guide is for 100% afk player, not active players, if you are active, 10x10 farms is better money
@tist006
@tist006 6 жыл бұрын
Do you need the mats in old wisdom or calpheon when making the crates?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
old wisdom tree
@Cyoon417
@Cyoon417 6 жыл бұрын
Trollsies, this guide has been helpful. I'm approaching 2 months into the game and want to make sure I'm setup for success in the future. Question, when you say put workers at old wisdom tree...but you put the workstation at Calpheon. Does that mean when they work on the trade crates...they end up going to old wisdom tree? Also, if I am afk at work 10+ hours a day, is it worth to use human workers instead of globins? I'm still quite new to lifeskilling.
@vitor7sousa
@vitor7sousa 6 жыл бұрын
i would recommend you giants if you are afk for over 10 hours, but humans might be also good, and yeah the crates go to old wisdom tree even tho they were made in calpheon cuz the papu workers are from old wisdom tree
@Cyoon417
@Cyoon417 6 жыл бұрын
Vitor Sousa thanks for replying! I’m ramping up in the game still and to do this guide I need to work towards master trading 2. Any tips on how to do this efficiently? Also, what other methods beside active grinding do you know of making silver? I’ve spammed a fair bit of savage rifts since they aren’t bad for money, but since I average 3-4 hours of active play time daily on the weekends, I’d like to switch things up.
@vitor7sousa
@vitor7sousa 6 жыл бұрын
about the master trading i can't really give much of advice since im not a master trader myself yet from what i've heard the best way to reach there is to kinda active trade for example velia to heidel and spam it, you can also do like a custom rotation between farms if you have the nodes set like in this video but yeah it's not easy at all just use buffs and the custom clothes and just trade, artisan isnt that hard i've heard u can go master 2 in a week of active trading. another way that i mostly make money is active fishing, get a good boat and go to the sea, the higher your level the more hotspots u can see in the water (hotspots are an area where u always get rare fish) get a big inventory and u can actually level up trading like this yet it's much slower but still it's pretty fun if you never tried it just get a fishing buddy and get on with it ;)
@Cyoon417
@Cyoon417 6 жыл бұрын
Vitor Sousa thanks for your help! I’ve read quite a few feedbacks on making money through fishing. Since I’m often afk at least 8-10 hours a day for work, this apparently is one of the best afk methods of making money daily. That being said, I’ve been afking for river fishing because of relic shards. Like most new players, I need them in bulks for scroll runs and memory frags. Perhaps my best bet is to move to full human empire, work my way to 300 CP and trade using a routine method until I hit master level trading. I believe trading is arguably the best way to make money in this game. I’ve heard others making 700 mill to 1 billion a week. I’m not very convinced that’s true... Thoughts?
@vitor7sousa
@vitor7sousa 6 жыл бұрын
trading is the best life skill if you have a good setup, i actually believe it's possible to make that much money if u are really active trading, about the fishing the reason why the river is better if you are playing afk is because it fills your inventory slower cuz of trash loot if u tick the little box, anyways if you like active fishing i really recommend it to do it in the sea i've dropped 3 relic shards in a row once and yeah keep expanding your empire and you when u notice it u will start to get rich
@BobBob-gz5hj
@BobBob-gz5hj 6 жыл бұрын
how do you get anough workers in velia to get all those nodes plus the beer nodes? how would you feed your workers if you dont have the beer nodes?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Buying bear off market still works if you snipe it! If you have any more questions either reply here or msg on discord or ask on my new twitch! Links in description if interested :D
@Charstray
@Charstray 6 жыл бұрын
Buy all lodging in velia (Velia 1 rm 1, 1 rm 2, 1 rm 3), Then lodging in balenos 6-1 (toscani farm). you will get maximum 8 workers total in velia.
@0xNobody
@0xNobody 6 жыл бұрын
Would it be fine if i removed one +3 fruit/grain for 1 more +3 timber or ore? or even both fruit for ore/timber? I dont own any farms and i dont like them either. Thanks
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
you will find it difficult to really use that many ore/timber
@derpysquirtle4783
@derpysquirtle4783 6 жыл бұрын
are bravent workers fine for node gathering while i send old wisdom tree workers to make crates in calpheon?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
yea they are fine, but you wanna aim for art goblins
@Blackdice2
@Blackdice2 6 жыл бұрын
You have to connect the 2 guard camps from heidel too velia anyways if you want the 2 quarry nodes not a waste :P
@johnfetalvero3062
@johnfetalvero3062 6 жыл бұрын
After doing this, I can't ever catch up to the production speed. Is this normal? It takes 80 bronze ingot per hour for 8 crates and it takes so long to process enough to have a constant production of crates.
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Make sure you 100% success rate for processing. +2 clothes, food, alchemy stone, costume, should get you to 100%. Only way to truly keep up with everything here is processing for 15+ hours a day. Most player wont do this, but this is the most optimal way to spend your cp for afk play. This is only what i do while in college, and not able to grind as much. Most will just focus one 1-2 crates. So Calpehon and Steel. Those are the easiest and best bang for the buck timewise.
@danielberger4058
@danielberger4058 6 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm running to issue where i just got done building boat so all my cp was tied up in boat making i watched this went to set up but i have to many workers and was based out viella so a lot energy and time spent moving shit around via transport but know im all confused on how many workers should one have with this set up i feel as ive dumped to much of my cp in to lodging i guess is where confused and i also had majority of my worker in hiedal and veila currently at 260 cp
@corybarber3563
@corybarber3563 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Trolls! I found you're video today; it was very well done and very easy to understand. I only found one thing I did not understand and please forgive my ignorannce. When you say pay to win with the workers out of old wisdom tree, with real money; I have pearls on my account but have no idea how you buy the workers you speak of. Im so sorry for not understanding!
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Buying lodging for kamasylvia
@meatyrenegade
@meatyrenegade 6 жыл бұрын
Mb its better to make only ore and timber crates? And invest leftover cp in to nodes? Or im i wrong?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
Sunflowers should realistically be priority number one, unless you are not active during 3 seperate 5 hour intervals a day. Since many are not, processing is usually the way to go for most. Leftover CP should be put into farms though, instead of bad nodes.
@DarkAngel001Dark
@DarkAngel001Dark 6 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with this setup. When i want to send my Old wisdom tree worker to calpheon to make the crates it says that i need the base materials in old wisdom tree and not in calpheon ist that true? Cause what i have seen in that video was that you didnt had any mats in old wisdom tree. So i will need to send all mats to old wisdom tree or not?
@AshenRaijin
@AshenRaijin 6 жыл бұрын
Yes the mats have to be in old wisdom tree
@trollfaceo0o
@trollfaceo0o 5 жыл бұрын
Hello is this guide can be use in 2019?
@wabevisser3125
@wabevisser3125 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, why some goblin and some human workers? is it for the luck from the human workers?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
wabe visser humans have luck and bigger energy bar so have Tobe attended less frequently
@wabevisser3125
@wabevisser3125 6 жыл бұрын
Trollsies okay, thanks, ive been trying to switch my giant and goblin workers for humans and only use goblin for my stuff that they craft
@coreystella5644
@coreystella5644 6 жыл бұрын
Hi trollsies, you mentioned the master 2 buff with the trading but what is it?
@Novatalion
@Novatalion 6 жыл бұрын
Some Guy the buff is a desert buff that allows you to increase your profits by additional 50% while trading in Valencia territory. PS it is no longer master 2, you can get the buff at artisan 2 now.
@philiprowe3512
@philiprowe3512 5 жыл бұрын
What's the best way to get all the crates from calpheon to valencia? How many do you do at a time
@Gajeboname
@Gajeboname 5 жыл бұрын
the new transport can help you to send any item from grana to valencia with 2-3 hours,..
@Memeteme
@Memeteme 5 жыл бұрын
@@Gajeboname the "Trade Wagon" which you can select?...its safe? No risk to lose all crates?
@joaquinherrera8252
@joaquinherrera8252 6 жыл бұрын
Hello, From where did u send workers to valencia nodes? Thanks
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
I send them from ancado so that i can use transport, but from valencia works too
@rayanhennia7629
@rayanhennia7629 5 жыл бұрын
do you recommend this method for trash crating untl artisan 2 ?
@chaselachat1779
@chaselachat1779 6 жыл бұрын
Stumped, need help. I'm doing a test run with my first worker I've rolled a +3ore Papu in OWT. I sent 500Blackstone and 30Brass I had on hand to OWT. In Calph when I manage the mineral workbench and select my papu and brass ingot crate I get the following message (regardless if i set it to 1 run, 1 repeat or 50k repeat ): "Not enough materials for repetitive task." Open to any suggestions.. ** Followup I suppose its just BDO being glitchy, same worker able to make steel ingot crate just fine...
@ashryver3605
@ashryver3605 5 жыл бұрын
God I burned through 4.8K energy and didn't get a single +3 ore in OWT. Three +3 Timber, one +3 mushroom. Sold a timber, rerolling for Ore still..
@MrLazyleader
@MrLazyleader 6 жыл бұрын
Do you mainly grow sunflowers on your farms?
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
For crates sunflowers are hard to beat. If really into farming you can place 2 of your 10 fences in mediah and do x2 fields of Special Purple Mushroom, but doing this requires 6 times a day gathering to be effective. As well as, two characters with Artisan 1 Farming. A.K.A. way too much work. If you don't have Art 2 trading and want to still do farming, you can just list farming mats that sell within a day to the market. Or sell special sunflower seeds on the market. Market + Value Pack is almost the same monthly profits as trading, but it takes up all your marketplace slots. Slots you might want to use to list other items. For example; Grunil Armor, Yuria Weapons, Foods, Good Feed, Elixirs.
@timrudde2316
@timrudde2316 6 жыл бұрын
How is old wisdom tree workers the way to go? If I used calpheon workers with +3 packing skills I can produce crates twice as fast and I doubt that the distance bonus would be twice as much...
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
16% more money going from Old Wisdom to Valencia vs Calpheon to Valencia. Also getting +3 packing skills on non Old Wisdom workers, is next to impossible.
@mgrabo84
@mgrabo84 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I really appreciate video. You did not mention which workers you are sending to the titanium nodes. You cannot P2W lodging for Ancado. Are you sending workers all the way from Valencia?
@stephentan4566
@stephentan4566 6 жыл бұрын
for the titanium and vanadium nodes, send valencia gobs there
@Trollsies
@Trollsies 6 жыл бұрын
yea either valencia gobs, or pay for the lodging with cp since you can't transit from valencia to calpheon
@TheForsakenWeasel
@TheForsakenWeasel 6 жыл бұрын
How do I get my Old Wisdom worker to work in calpheon when all the wood materials are in calpheon? do i ship over the wood to old wisdom tree so my workers can make the crates? i dont get it
@Charstray
@Charstray 6 жыл бұрын
when you assign worker from old wisdom tree to work in calpheon. He will walk all the way to calpheon and work in calpheon (you can literally see it going in and out from old wisdom tree to your workshop). After the works is done, He wll bring the product with him back home to old wisdom tree.
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