SO MUCH INTERESTING INFO! | This Is How Stray Kids Was Formed REACTION!

[@NatashaH0719]

That "old man" is JYP, he founded the whole company and basically overviews ALL the groups.

[@arinontop143]

lmao yes

[@hanniejaf]

also to clarify, he isn’t the ceo anymore, but he’s one of the main producers for all jyp past and present groups

[@arinontop143]

@@hanniejaf oh yeah.. whos the ceo now?

[@petrahavelykke5392]

@@arinontop143 Some guy called Jung wook

[@arinontop143]

@@petrahavelykke5392 lol i want jay why papi back😭💋😫🥵

[@chandorasworld]

Bang Chan is a literal living legend. That man had to work and grind for years to get to where he is now. The fact that he choose the members of Stray Kids himself is practically unheard of. Chan gained the trust of JYP over his years of training and he knew exactly which boys to pick and raised them to be all-rounders and triple threats. Without Chan there is no Stray Kids, he even created their name and designed their logo. He's a freaking superhero.

[@jilliandougherty9852]

One of my favorite comments I read a while back described them imagining Chan’s selection process as him going around the JYP building collecting members like Pokémon Go, finding one, calling their names like Han Jisung!! I choose you!!! That image makes me laugh on my darkest days. Lol!!!!

[@maria-ih4vx]

and all that while being one of the most talented idols in the industry, he really is the backbone of his generation and for me he's the standard for leadership, I've said many times before I've only saw two leaders go all out for their team the way chan did before , along with jay b from GOT7 and scoups from seventeen , chan is on top 3 best leaders ever in kpop

[@chandorasworld]

@@maria-ih4vx I believe he’s the best leader in Kpop history. There’s no one doing it like Chan. He’s a leader, a father, a friend, a protector, a brother, and a mentor to his members. He does literally everything. He would die for his kids without hesitation. That’s the true mark of being a great leader.

[@erikgarsia7669]

Just love that kind, modest,self made boy with golden heart.I think he deserves more screen time,he need stop stap back and giving his time to others. BANCHAN talented diamond! His Kharizma on the stage is insane, I noticed him immediately, when I first met SCz.even he shoved up for 6 second

[@rugr82day]

It wasn't just Hyunjin and Felix that had a short trainee time. One thing the guide missed was that Lee Know was only a trainee for 2 months before joining the group. He was an exceptional dancer and completed the JYP mandatory dance classes in just two weeks. Normally that takes months and over a year for some. Lee Know tends to have a more conservative style compared to Felix and Hyunjin but his face fits the classic Korean beauty standard the most. He's one of the most popular member's despite not having a lot of screen time in their earlier music videos. All three members of Danceracha have worked hard over the years and it's good to see them all excel.

[@hanniejaf]

chan took a long time to debut not because he lacked in looks (I can assure you even by idol standards he is very good looking and other idols say the same, he’s just surprisingly appealing to the western standards as well), but because he was supposed to debut as the maknae in got7. however for unclear reasons he didn’t make it. he’s always been a producer and crazily talented with leadership skills, so the company told him to make his own team. over the years of training, chan eventually got to know the members of stray kids as they joined the company and asked them to join his group. the video is in age order but in timeline order it would be: chan, 2011 han, 2014 I.N, 2015/16 changbin, hyunjin, felix (not sure which order here!), 2016 seungmin, Jan 2017 leeknow, july 2017 their survival show then started airing first in october 2017 after all of skz were finally formed and then they debuted as stray kids on march 25th 2018 (0325, the most important number for stays).

[@susannac3894]

I watched Bam Bam in a show mentioned he was picked to be part of Got7 in the last minute. It was probably he got high praise from YG boss when they have the show down between the trainees. JYP could have switched them to be debuted in Got7.

[@Tinkerbell977]

Felix came to Korea in 2017

[@G.Lollie]

This is a great guide. I love the person who created it, but it is outdated, and some of the info is wrong. I really recommend the 2023 The Rise of Stray Kids by Johnathan Miller Music even if it doesn't have as many views because it's newer. As a new person to kpop and Stray kids it is very informative.

[@shinhonwy]

yep, had a struggle in the beginning when the creator of this guide said that chan is "allegedly from sydney, australia" when ut was revealed years ago that he was born in south korea edited: the guide was created almost 4 years ago, but the info was already available then, so idk how this "allegedly" part got to see light lol

[@queenj8886]

yeah I felt like they kinda watered down the survival shows impact😅 But I still glad he's getting some context tho

[@maria-ih4vx]

chan was born in korea , his parents moved to Australia when he was a baby , they actually talk about how proud they were of everything they were able to build for themselves in a new country and they raised incredibly good children. chan went also to korea at 13/14 by himself to persue his dreams and he been through a lot as a treinee , today he's one of the most complete artists in the industry , top writes and producers in kpop and the first in 4th gen , he's on top 10 most credited idols on korea music copyright association and he's top 1 in 4th gen , him along with 3racha have recently been promoted to full members of the copyright association which is a big deal in korea and music in general. hyunjin have said he had a hard time as a treinee , he unfortunately was really though on himself and struggled a lot bc ppl would say he didn't need to do anything cause he would definitely debut for his looks , when that was not what he wanted , now he's the standard in kpop for dancing and he simply enchantes everyone with his incredible talent besides his visuals. skz are an all arounder group and 3racha is their ace unit with han jisung being THE 4th gen ace , they are undeniably leading their generation and making themselves up to being one of top groups in the world today

[@sidedishbangchan]

1. Yes, the average training period is around 1.5-2 years. Bang Chan training for 7 years obviously caused alot of insecurities, as he kept making friends with other trainees and they debuted without him. Its been said in show/interviews that this caused him to stop making friends at one point in fear of being left behind. Hence, early on the other SKZ members feared him a little as he was not so open anymore and quite strict. 2. Chan training for an extraordinarily long period of time may be one of the reasons why he was allowed to pick out his own team members. Normally, the company creates a team they think will work together, but a leader choosing the members had never happened before. 3. SKZ making all their songs, beats and choreographies on their own is also something not commonly seen in kpop. This freedom of work allows them to fully express their own creativity. 4. JYP (the old guy) is the Founder of JYP Entertainment. Basically the ceo. You'll see him alot if you choose to react to the survival show. Also, love your reaction videos!!! I am so excited to accompany you on this amazing journey into stayville!!!❤❤

[@lyandaespadas]

stray kids dont make their choreos sadly.

[@snailcorn7480]

@@lyandaespadas they don’t choreograph all of their songs but they do some of their own choreography

[@imnotacrybaby]

@@lyandaespadas From what I know, Lee Know choreographed Hellevator and then the rest are by the company with their added input.

[@mama1bear169]

Hyunjin struggled a lot with people telling him he didn't need to work as hard because he could debut on his looks alone. He worked hard at dance and will sometimes wear a hat during performances to hide his face. He has 3 dance cover videos (Billie Eilish - when the party's over, Sam Tinnesz - Play with Fire, and Studio Choom's Artist of the Month) that show his growth in dance. Loving your reactions!

[@cookies6455]

He needs the work.

[@thatstay3916]

Lee Know actually only trained for a month before Chan chose him for the show! he has the record for the fast time to learn the jyp basic dances

[@grumpydomppa8666]

Love to see your videos! About trainee times.. Lee Know was trainee only for 8 months before debut. He learned the 40 basic JYP ent. moves in two weeks which broke the record by Momo from Twice. Her record was 4 months. Some people took years to learn them all. D;

[@hanjisvillain]

Basically Chan created a world for himself and his kids at the age of 20.

[@kaeceys3945]

awww I love this🥲❤️

[@Izzy_C143]

I always find it quite interesting when people say Changbin is a better rapper than Han because when they try to explain why it almost always comes down to preferences. They have such different styles and strengths that it's super hard to actually compare them talent-wise. For me, they're on par with each other and the fact that they're never trying to do the same thing in a song means that we get so much variety and different types of impact from each verse. I LOVE when they rap back and forth. What a power duo. Also the shortest training period was actually Lee Know! I think he trained for around 2 months before joining skz for the survival show (please correct me if I'm mistaken). What a whirlwind that must have been for him

[@StaySiren]

I highly recommend (since you’re already tackling early music videos) for personality videos and 3racha centric things the series goes: Chan and Changbin write a song and it’s unique, THEN 3 men in colorful pants and then follow up with Chan makes a Kkulchong edm song because Lee Know tells him to. Trust me. But as for Hyunjin and Felix debuting ‘faster’, it wasn’t so much about their looks because the company wasn’t picking them, Chan was. Lee Know is actually the one who fits Korean beauty standards the most - with his single discrepancy being a few cm shorter than the standard. His profile is considered perfect.

[@kendra1124]

I think you should take a look into learning more about Han’s rapping skills. You haven’t really seen a lot yet because Han’s role is split between both rapping & singing. Changbin has a naturally stronger tone, whereas Han likes to be more lyrical with his raps, so Changbin does stand out more to people. I wouldn’t say his skills are any less than Changbin’s, they are both main rappers for a reason. I wouldn’t compare them, they are both very different & highly skilled.

[@miccismr]

Changbin and Han biased here 👋 i think that you yet have a lot to know and discover about Han's rap. Changbin's raps are maybe more noticeable since he almost (big almost here) raps in their songs, and Han usually do both singing and rapping. Han's rap-ability and freestyle rapping are VERY good! I would say that they are almost equally good but with different styles (this is ofc my opinion 😂😊). But they do have different flows and voices, and everything comes down to ones preferences! Thank you for the reaction!! 🙏

[@kendra1124]

Agreed. He definitely needs to see & learn more about Han’s skills because he’s kinda giving him backhanded compliments by constantly comparing him to Changbin in terms of rapping.

[@JuttaB-t1v]

@@kendra1124 You´re absolutely right! And the ACE and all-rounder is definitely HAN!

[@DaddiesLittlePsycho]

I really must agree. It's was definitely a hard part to watch. I mean, I get that he obviously prefers Chan and Changbin in the group. But it makes me a little sad when I see that he kinda seems to always put Han to the side or use him as a comparison for how good another member is... and then go on to never mention him in his own right throughout the rest of most of his videos. Don't get me wrong!! I actually really like this reactor! I do! I also completely understand having a member, or even a few, that you have an extra soft spot for! I guess I just flinch a little when I feel a reactor is subconsciously putting one of the boys further back than all of the others in their opinion of them. I don't know if I'm just being too sensitive, though, you know? Because I'm am an OT8 with a slight Han bias. So i mean, yeah, this is the perfect storm to cause someone like me a twinge of sadness when it occurs. Lol, I guess I just wish he would wait until he's put some music under his belt to form such opinions, you know? Because they have like 170 songs or something now, with more about to drop. Not to mention all the content that we have probably all seen. So, we know just how unbelievably talented Han is.... However, at the same time, perhaps even then he would have the same opinion, so I really can't just say he formed it too early, not if that's how he feels without having seen much of the discography at all. In fact, thinking about what he has seen, he's really only done two songs that had any REAL "Han" in them. Andeven then, both were what I would call some of his more... tame, parts. At least, compared to what we have seen him do. I don't know. I just really really want to keep liking this guy, so I will put aside how I currently feel and try to remind myself we are a nice fandom and everyone is entitled to their own opinions. We all know that this is what Chan would ask us to do in this situation.

[@miccismr]

@ReapingWillow you are actually elaborating my answer quite well! I am also OT8, with a slightly biased towards both Han and Changbin. And your answer is actually how my thought process went watching this. But english isn't my first language, so I was afraid to write something that could be taken in the wrong way, you know? I was also afraid that I was a bit too sensitive or that i would come of as "overprotective" or that i overreacted. I really don't want to come of as negative or hateful! Because that is NOT my intention at all 🙂 I just believe that some of the opinions are made up to soon. Just like you said, he has yet only reacted to like two songs that Han show some skills - but even those are tame compare to what we in the fandom know him for! But also, as I said, in the end it comes down to preference. So we'll have to see what his opinion is further down the skz rabbit hole.

[@melonapel49]

That's actually how i feel... This channel owner is one of my fav reactor honestly... But i kinda hurt whenever he comment about HAN, he always comparing with Changbin... I know everyone has their own opinion, but i dont know i feel like when he share his opinion about HAN, it seems like it's the fact not opinion 😂

[@tripster1694]

My personal theory of why Chan trained for seven years is that because Chan was so good to begin with, (dancing, singing, playing piano and guitar, etc.) JYP groomed him to be exactly what he is today, the leader of a successful handpicked group with creative control of their music rather than just one of the members of another group. Thanks to those seven years he was able to study music composition and production that he was able to showcase during the survival show. Like I said, no facts to back up my theory, just makes sense to me.

[@erikgarsia7669]

Agree. I think he didn't suit other groups, because of his shining personality, that makes others too pale.😊 and he is confident, really Kharizmatic ,i can see him as solo artist.Easy.he is incredible warm person,he must go as a maknae of the got7,but he could rock even oldest,leader position. HE CAN DO REALLY EVERYTHING. just love that modest, kind ,hot boy😊

[@strawberry_milker]

Lmfaooo “is that old guy the manager or something?” Sirrr. That is THE JYP 😂😂. That’s JYPapi he runs all that shit

[@shelby3174]

For you to think Changbin is more well-rounded than Han shows you haven't heard enough of their stuff. As many in the comments have noted, the two have very different styles, and in my opinion they're equally matched in skill. But Han is the more well-rounded rapper of the two- it's one of his strengths that often gets overlooked.

[@celynette3537]

9:22 : Park Jin Young is the boss of JYP Entertainement (Unlike the other bands, Stray Kids used to make fun of him. Changbin seems to be mad at him since he eliminated Felix and Lee Know 😅There is a love-hate atmosphere between them 😂)

[@DaboyNL]

A lot of members still say CHAN is JYP's SON! because the ammount of stuff he does for the company! and Kim Seungmin is the best JYP Impersonator! I think it was I.N. and Lee Know but they did a JYP DANCE during a live concert!

[@tea6464]

I think you might like a similar video that came out recently called 'The Rise of STRAY KIDS - JYP Entertainment's REAL Secret Weapon'' since you're new to the whole kpop thing because it gives some information on the company JYP entertainment and its history but also explains how stray kids fits into the whole picture and gives a short rundown of each member similar to this video!

[@Dopamine_lovestay]

Yes please!

[@luckpoof7261]

hyunjin and felix went trough hell to debut especially hyunjin who was still a highscooler and a trainee at the same time, he was dancing in the studio until 5 in the morning and then he will grab his back pack and uniform to go to his school, since the the company was really far from his school, he had no artistic back ground he started fro zero, and his dream was to be recognized for his talent especially dancing and not his looks.

[@ssickhyun]

loving how you wanna keep learning about them with this type of videos, not everyone does it after the guide 💕

[@roseapricot7250]

when u mentioned about one of factor its easier for hyunjin and felix to debut due to their visuals when they are very talented actually being mentioned by hyunjin, the older trainees told him he doesnt need to work hard bc his visuals would get him debut, it pissed him off so he works extra harder (he was street-casted so he lacks in skills) till he actually becomes skz's main dancer. for bangchan's case, the company definitely wanna keep him for next leader bc JYP and management trust his skills and 3racha especially he's a seasoned trainee & was given the power to self-produced and pick members himself which an abnormality in kpop. I feel like JYPE just let them did experimental music and didnt expect SKZ to blew up (after Gods Menu.) fun-fact: 1. at 7:50 leeknow at the world dance competition as participant while hyunjin went to see the event as an audience 2. chan was seungmin's senior in his school and during JYP's 13th open audition, seungmin's the only participant to greet him. it left deep impression as well as seungmin's voice. it also the last jype audition chan saw. 3. I.N supposed to be in same-age monthly evaluation team, I.N said himself that he might be a leader in different group but they had halloween party then bangchan called him asked to pick teams over phone and I.N chose chan's team so they got familiar there. chan be collecting skz like infinity stones lol

[@melonapel49]

10:47 everyone has different preference... But as HAN & CHANGBIN biases, i would say these 2 have same level rap skill, they're main rappers for a reason... But my personal favorite rapper is HAN... CHANGBIN rap more noticeable because his tone more strong/aggressive... But HAN rap more about lyrical & playful with so many flow+different tone... It's just so fun & satisfying watching HAN rap...

[@intuash]

Lee Know trained for only 8 months before debuting! But then again, most trainees use that time to, well, train but at that point he was already a professional dancer.

[@Tyra94]

First off: love your reactions and yes I totally agree that people who fit the Korean beauty standard have it easier to debut for sure. JYP is the founder and long term CEO of JYP-entertainment. I think he stepped down from the ceo position but is still the main shareholder of jype. So he is the big boss of stray kids. (He is a popular musician and producer and is/was heavily involved in all his artists music, stray kids being an exception to this and only having i think one song produced by him- edit: it’s only the song “all in” and he was super nervous to Play the track for them/nervous they’d reject him -thanks to sojins gf for helping out/correcting me). There are some videos where he interacts with skz after the survival show. If I have the time I try to put the links here. One is an interview of how skz was formed (here Chan explains what characteristics made him pick the members) kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYvZkH5jq52oiqs And one is him discussing I think the second mini album with 3Racha) kzbin.info/www/bejne/nanGaIxupt6mfqc While it’s an insider in stayville that especially changbin hates JYP the guys do respect him a lot and JYP does trust and support SKZ. For example he let them change their title track of their “Go Live” album basically last minute (the original Titel track was already recorded but along came “Gods menu” and he agreed to change the songs. And thank god he did because gods menu really changed skz trajectory) and he was also present at their recent LA concert. JYP is highly respected in the K-pop industry but still it seems to be in the job description of JYPE artists to make fun of him. By imitations his singing style/dance moves 😂 those videos are always fun to watch btw. Despite having been spoiled the survival show is a must watch and will show you how much the guys improved but also how very talented they were at such a young age. It’ll also show you a bit why Chan comes across quite serious in early productions of theirs (as you have mentioned in another video). Maybe have tissues at the ready or be prepared to be pissed off at jyp because despite knowing how the show ends it still hits you in the feels every time. (Of cause it’s produced to be as dramatic as possible because “views”) And yes there are quite a lot of groups which are created or at least hyped up predebut through survival shows.

[@shinhonwy]

skz have only "all in" in their discography offered to them by jyp. yet he still was hella nervous to show them a song they're about to perform

[@Tyra94]

@@shinhonwy thank you! that’s what I thought, but I wasn’t sure if I might have overlooked one😅

[@shinhonwy]

@@Tyra94 it's fine! i remember as vividly as a day how panicking jyp looked when he was just about to play "all in" for the kids lmao

[@DaddiesLittlePsycho]

Fun fact, 3RACHA do actually have partial credit for that track too. They asked him if they could alter it so that it would still fall within their sound and style. They did their best to keep his signature whilst adding theirs, but uhh... I mean, the chorus still sounds the same!! 😂 That's actually one of the reasons Changbin isn't a big fan. (Along with the survival show fiasco, of course.) Yeah, he KINDA put a kink if their perfect record. At least as far as Changbin was concerned. However, JYP did do it with nothing but good intentions, and he really was so nervous. Lol that said, I think Changbin kinda got him back by them having credit for it too, though. And of course, that one song... (which is their debut Japanese track, and doesn't even count af a part of their OFFICIAL Korean discography.) Is nothing compared to their having the credit for all the writing, composing, main production, and even arrangment that they do... they tuly are the masterminds behind every single other song in their discography. At least they are responsible for 99.97% of their discography! Lmao

[@KandyKiptanui]

LeeKnow was the one who had the shortest training period actually

[@chibib]

Wasn't expecting another video today! Anyways, no one knows the order in which Chan selected the Stray Kids members (save for Lee Know who is 100% the last guy), but this was the order of the SKZ members joining the company: Chan - Han - I.N - Changbin/Hyunjin/Woojin - Felix - Seungmin - Lee Know Fun fact, Lee Know auditioned in the same year as Changbin, but was accepted only years later. Some estimate that he got into the company around July 2017 (?). About survival shows, yes it's a thing to hype up groups, but the SKZ survival show was an entirely different take from the usual. Normal survival shows work on a "trainee vs. trainee" premise and often a combination of judges + audience vote will decide who gets to fill in a set number of spots for a new group to debut. The Stray Kids survival show had a "group of trainees vs. the management" set-up where Chan had to prove to that "old guy" that the team he formed was ready for debut. The audience only got to vote in the end where they had to decide 9 members vs. 7 members, instead of individually picking a trainee/s to vote for debut. I'm not too sure how long is the average training period for idols. I did find comments in an old discussion where they were suprised that SKZ will be composed of one 7-year trainee and a bunch of 3/2/1-year trainees + months-old Lee Know. Based from those, I think the average or ideal training period would be around 3-5 years? Idk, but definitely 7 years is way too long, and based from those comments, 2 years is a little too short. Not to be rude, but I did think some of the SKZ members felt half-baked during the survival show (but they're all waaaayyy better now). Thanks for your reactions and your insights. Looking forward to the next ones!

[@MindyRRD6760]

We do also know that Han is Chan's first Kid. 🥰 Pretty sure Changbin was second. 🤔

[@chibib]

@@MindyRRD6760 yup. I was talking about the order of entering JYP. I put I.N as 3rd because during an old 00-line live, Han brought up that I.N said something like "you (Han) were the most handsome member back then", to which Hyunjin replied with "but you (Han) were the only member back then (not counting I.N)". That's why I assumed I.N got to JYP ahead of Changbin, but not necessarily that Chan picked I.N to be his second Stray Kid.

[@MindyRRD6760]

@@chibib ahhhh, yes. Right, with I.N being in the young'ns weekend program or whatever it was.

[@patriciaparadise1133]

They are All well rounded. Every. Single. One.

[@MalickaNeya]

SKZ joined JYP in this exact order: Bangchan (trained dor over 7 years), he could have very well debuted as the youngest of some of the earlier groups Han (3 years) I.N (2 years) Hyunjin (2 years) Changbin (2 years) Felix (1 year) Seungmin (1 year) Lee Know (3-6 months, I kinda forgot😅)

[@SweetyBrito]

You’re right, their looks are the reason, but thankfully they have shown how their looks is just a small part of what they have to offer. They both are amazing dancers and vocalist, as well as rappers.

[@kiffwerp9875]

I don't know if any of the guides or comments have told you this yet, but Felix didn't know any Korean (at least, he couldn't speak, write, or read it) when he went to audition for JYP, he had to learn the language as he was training and he had to pick it up fast. It was the main reason why he was eliminated in the survival show.

[@JuttaB-t1v]

I love your reactions and it´s great fun to watch you discover Stray Kids! They are all incredibly talented, but the title "allrounder" has already been given to Han by the SKZ members, no less :) Just to give you an idea of how brilliant of a rapper Han is I recommend "I got it".

[@seniorkittystay]

I think the average training period is between two and three years. They usually count the time right up to debut as the trainee period, though here they only did it with some of them. Lee Know, Felix and Han's trainee period was as of debut, but Chan's trainee period at debut would have been close to eight years. Han's father was in a rock group, so he always had the music influence. The exam he came back to Korea to write was basically the final exams. Being home-schooled, he wrote those when he was 15\16. Chan had (and still does have) a lot of friends in Australia from all nationalities, and loves to talk about the various menus he has been introduced to through them. His family moved to Australia when he was a baby, and started from scratch. That is probably why there is such a big gap between him and his siblings, they most likely wanted to establish themselves before growing the family. Most of the decent guides will give you a lot of information on all of them, so I will leave you to explore further. There is one channel (Vic Killjoy) that has done a guide (and an extra extended guide) for each of the members, and one for each of the Rachas. So that is also worth checking out to get a lot of information, even though it is older and there is so much more information available now. Welcome to the rabbit hole 😁

[@DaboyNL]

Hey Trolltek amazing channel and great to see you become even a bigger stay everytime you upload a video... for some refferences... SKZ did some interview with the ZACH SANG interviews where they talked about trainee days and how all the members SAVED CHAN... he was about to give up the trainee life because of all the other friends debuted in other groups and he was still there... but there is an interview with JYP and SKZ about the forming of SKZ and chan talked about every member what attracted him in them... HE IS AN AMAZING LEADER... and the "OLD" man is JYP (an older Kpop idol (soloist) who created the LABEL JYPentertainment. The label SKZ is in) For the survival shows... a lot of kpop groups where formed during survivalshows because it's good for the public to get emotional connected to the groups before debuting.... but with SIXTEEN the survivalshow of twice they got a bit of angry viewers how they talk about members or girls who didnt make it... or the kinds of beautystandards they had to fit into.... and with the SKZ survival show people say... CHAN CREATED THE GROUP so the label didnt have any saying for it so in the SURVIVAL SHOW they did some stuff to show them... we are i ncharge.... but after all SKZ is an AMAZING GROUP and they put out THEIR OWN MESSAGE. Other groups tend to get songs and choreo's by the company and only sing and dance it... but SKZ DOES IT ALL WITH THEIR OWN TEAM!!! They get help from the company for some producing stuff and choreo but they always help and Participate with producing or creating the choreo or adjusting it so it is more "THEM"! Keep up the good work SKZ also attended on the REACT CHANNEL a few times with TRY NOT TO SING CHALLENGE (also an amazing video)

[@Tara_Smith_98]

I recommend Hyunjin's 'Play with Fire' & Studio Choom artist of the Month 'Motley Crew' dance performances. His beauty will make u speechless ❤️🔥

[@mej9268]

First! 🤍 Man i love your skz reactions please keep it up!

[@carlarojas1691]

There is an error in Lee Know's information, he did not train for 1 year, in fact to be exact it was only 8 months. Lee Know joined JYP in July 2017, the Show started filming in September 2017, and SKZ debuted in March 2018 so he only had 2 months to prepare and catch up before they announced they would debut. Once the show ended, the boys had to prepare for their debut so they were no longer trainees. Lee Know is the one who debuted with the least experience and had to learn everything once he was already an idol (except dance, obviously he already knew how to do it) since his time as a trainee was really short.

[@Star-rn8ro]

15:27 as we said chan chose them as his members of skz. Training time was prolly the last on his checklist. He was more on potential and what charms of the members caught him.

[@hanniejaf]

2-3 years training is very common and average yeah, chan training for 7 years was super long and every time it gets brought up he described how it was absolute hell for him. leeknow has had the shortest training period of all, training only 2 months which was a reason why he got eliminated, he wasn’t as well versed with singing and rapping as the others. felix got eliminated because his korean was still lacking even though he was an amazing dancer and has such a unique voice.

[@queenj8886]

Great reaction! But I do think this video glosses over a few things. I just watch the survival show, Felix & Lee know coming back was definitely a little more than JY.P just wanting to create some drama. He's very thorough & on point but a very blunt critic. Because the standard had to be high among other groups & since they were JYP's 1st group that made their own self produced music and had a leader Bang chan hand pick his own members vs the company completely doing so. During the several missions Felix and Lee know really seriously almost didn't debut together, along with a few others. Lee know had a short training period and was struggling in some areas and Felix's Korean was pretty weak and because he needed to work on his confidence. But JY.P gave them a chance & saw the groups dynamic and they worked their ass off to improve that in a short time along with the other members to debut as 9 especially when they already trained & started living together. Bang Chan training for 7 years is very abnormal but in the end they saved him for a big project. He actually went through around 7-9 evaluations with other trainees before debuting in stray kids. A lot of traiinees either debuted without him or were all cut if they felt they weren't showing enough potential anymore. Bang Chan went through a lot at the time, and lost a lot of friends. He mentioned he was actually a little closed off at some points & cold until he finally debuted with stray kids.

[@mmariedelle5511]

This is true.

[@yua2281]

"survival shows" are very very common in kpop, they really exploded in 2016 with the "produce" series. It was where they would take a select amount of trainees from many different companies and basically make them compete against eachother to be in a group. every other year they would change from making a girl group, to making a boy group, and the members were fan voted. 2016 produce 101 formed girl group "I.O.I" (disbanded in 2017) 2017 produce 101 fomed boy group "wanna one" (disbanded in 2019) 2018 produce 48 formed girl group "Iz*one" (disbanded in 2020) and 2019 produce X 101 formed boy group "X1" but there was a scandal with mnet (the company who produced the show) rigging the voting, so they disbanded shortly after, and mnet discontinued this series. all of these groups became very very popular for the short amount of time they were active as a group, but the thing is with these survival show groups is that, at most they have a contract of 2 years with the label they are under, and at the end of the contract, they have to disband. for skz it was different because jyp was looking for a "permanent" group and not a temporary one like mnet has been. most of the members of these former survival show groups have re-debuted in new groups, or as solo artists. some of them are : somi and chungha from I.O.I redebuted as solo artists, woodz and kang daniel from wanna one also re-deduted as solo artists. yujin and wonyoung from izone redebuted in a new kpop group together called "IVE" and sakura and chaewon also from izone redebuted in a differend kpop group called "lesserafim" since then theres been many new survival shows, including a new series also produced by mnet which is the planet 999 series, last year they made a girlgroup called "kep1er" and not to long ago like a few weeks ago they just finished forming a boy group called "zerobaseone" and you were actually right about the beauty standard thing making it easier for some people to debut. a lot of the times in survival shows, judges would choose trainees that were good looking and had no talent, over ones that have talent but didnt fit the beauty standard as much. the judge in survival show "my teenage girl" was caught doing that without even trying to hide it, literally saying "(vocal trainee)'s ability is very good, but she doesnt stand out in a crowd, we need a member with a face that can gather fans" people speculate they did the same in girls planet 999, because most of the trainees that had really good vocals got eliminated, while the ones with sup-par vocals, but fit the korean beauty standards a bit more, got to debut. and mnet decided to auto-tune many of the performances the trainees did.

[@sriissyracha]

if you wanna see more of 3racha as a different comment you said you should check out “3 men in colourful pants” 😭 it’s actually hilarious lmaooo

[@DaboyNL]

For other 3Racha / Chan content there was a V-live episode where SANA from TWICE JOINED THEIR V-Live and chan get flustered and turned into a different person... So funny to see! :)

[@hammadnasir1966]

There is a video where Bangchan talks about why and how did he pick the members of stray kids among other trainees. I guess it'll be interesting to chk that.

[@SHGogo-df5jr]

Yeah it seems survival shows are popular. I know of these 2, i-island that created Enhypen & one on going rn (I think) Boys Planet. There are more too but idk

[@kaykay_kkmaka]

LeeKnow had the least traning time . If im not wrong, it was only a month? Ik it was under 12 months but I think he only trained for a month or 3. They didnt say but Hyunjin was street casted by a Jyp employee at the store shopping with his mom. Meaning hee had 0 skills walking in Jyp company (Singing, rapping, dancing, etc) so he worked extra hard for thoes 2-3 years to debut along side his fellow memebers of Stray Kids. Also its a good thing that Chan trained for those 7-8 years cause he gained Jyp trust to the point the man himself let Channie pick his members which was the first time in history that happen in Jyp company. Plus he got to make friends with many 4th gen Kpop idols and is super popular (Correct me on any wrong info I might of said Stay)

[@lukabcdefg]

i love your videos! i saw you on my youtube recommended because i watch a lot of skz related content and i thought why not watch someone react to them for the first time and here i am 😭 i subscribed because i like your reactions. UR #1 CHAN LOVER 😁

[@minniespuppy]

the amount of skz content from you is amazing

[@abcdefg715]

The old man is JYP. The name of the company JYP Entertainment is named after him. He is the chief creative director of the company I believe. He is also a soloist idol for many years and a great producer. The world-wide famous "Nobody" song by wonder girls was written by him. His face and his dramatic fashion style is iconic in K-pop. I feel like every single person who is into kpop knows him lol.

[@roses_are_rosee6676]

Visual privilege is real in the kpop industry if we look at some idols (doesn’t mean they don’t have talents) but yea

[@anicetyapo8026]

You show your love for 3racha so much in your videos, so I think you'd appreciate that performance: Back door jloud. A group of trainees collaborating with 3racha on a performance. 3racha, specifically Changbin and Han back forth rap is lit

[@magikaldre]

I looove this, I love long form content and I love skz so your channel is just perfect for me haha. Have you considered doing single member focused videos for each of them? It'd be nice to see you learn a bit more about members like I.N and Lee Know who you don't seem to know too well. Anyways, my biases are Seungmin and I.N :3

[@hanniejaf]

you need to watch videos about bangchan with other idols, he’s friends with basically the whole kpop industry it’s crazy. stays wake up and suddenly another idol mentions he’s friends with them. no one knew he was friends with jungkook (they’re the same age too!) until a restaurant owner said they ate together with nct jaehyun and astro cha eunwoo.

[@starbbokie]

It’s because even if you’re a super talented trainee but the company isn’t ready to debut another group then of course you can’t debut right away.

[@_yunica_4848]

2 years seems short ? I mean it's the average time but fun fact, Lee Know trained for 7 months. For Felix and Hyunjin debuting faster that Chan, I actually want to point out that you have to take into account when groups debuted. For JYP entertainment, Got7 debuted in 2014, so Chan was kinda young and his friend Bam Bam that debuted in Got7 wasn't even suppose to debut in Got7. and then the next boys groups was Day 6 in 2015, a band which he could have joined. And then skz were the next, you have to remember that groups don't debut that often in agencies. And don't forget that id Chan didn't train for as long as he did we would never have gotten skz. It's because he trained for that long that JYP trusted him enough to create his own group. And without Chan, I.N would have never joined since he was in the saturday classes (so kinda the kid classes).

[@christenw.1726]

The 2022 updated intro guide to Stray kids is the BEST guide. I don't think you have done that one.

[@StayVCA98]

Waah hello I'm super new here and subscribed to your channel, firstly I wanted to say super thank you for this, especially since not only I'm who Ults SKZ but also Fanboy too, despite the generalization for girls and others can be fans only... I'm just glad that I found one here, who Ults Stray Kids as well, they are just so SSICK you know, would love to see more SKZ content from you is all, feel free to take things on your own pace as they say, a little late but Welcome to the Fandom bro!! 🥹💗

[@strwberrles]

i recommend “An advanced guide to stray kids 2022 : teamwork” kzbin.info/www/bejne/epzCZad-maunfNU i know you already reacted to guides but this goes in depth into their dynamic as a group on stage/ during practice not just the members! the same creator also made individual guides for 3racha, danceracha, and vocalracha which are very well made and give more light to their skills in the group that most guides dont tend to show! danceracha: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amGmeWSGfNFshdE vocalracha: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZniufZ6pirqea9U 3racha: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ2tcpSontZobac

[@enk7208]

This☝️☝️☝️☝️

[@mmariedelle5511]

This is great!

[@rxalotus7222]

Lee know has the shortest training time (? among skz, just 2 months hahahaha

[@theskyhasmoods]

YES OMG to be scouted by someone like Bang Chan- its my ultimate dream

[@Angelinak143]

hey I'm loving your videos! If you wanna watch the stray kids vs. google translate video I think you'll find it really funny

[@arti_0325]

the middle aged man is JYP lol

[@arti_0325]

he is the founder of JYPEntertainment and oversees everything

[@ForNEXZ]

You're so Chan biased😂😂😂

[@von1glik]

There is a rly good guide about SKZ dynamics. Its called An Advanced Guide to Stray Kids (2022): Teamwork by SavageKingz. It gives interesting insides about how they operate

[@LUMI_MBB_STAY]

That old guy is JYP. Skz's label is JYP Entertainment lol. He's the BIG BIG boss lmao.

[@jennifer5362]

I feel like Lee Know, Felix and Hyunjin would not have debuted as early in their training if Chan hadn't wanted them in SKZ.

[@marcifell6384]

Absolutely anime stories! Not only Han's but SKZ's itself, really their story is like story of main character in anime with al difficulties, which they deal with~

[@susannac3894]

Boy you need to watch out what you said about him. He knows and watches everything in the Stayville.

[@itsmie4eva]

Recommended you watch “The rise of stray kids” 😊

[@ykoons24]

This!

[@Margo_143_]

Jajaja Insisto en que su objetivo era conocer el K-pop en general y ya lleva más de una semana solo con Stray Kids... Quiero decir, no me quejo porque soy Stay hasta la muerte, bien ahí.

[@yareliespinoza7093]

Jajaa xd si lo noté también Hola por cierto,stay latina presente

[@Margo_143_]

@@yareliespinoza7093 jajaja holaaa Sí, me parece muy gracioso

[@chronosclaimsall]

6:48 Yeah it's really popular to have survival shows to pick which trainees actually debut in a group. Monsta X, Twice (as mentioned), Enhypen and lots more groups were formed using survival shows. The show doesn't really test how well the members "mesh together", they determine who from the trainee lineup has the skills to debut at that point in time. It's up to the members to work on and form those relationships afterwards. A big example of that is in the No Mercy survival show that created Monsta X (but I won't say exactly what it is because spoilers).

[@jessicaglass]

No mercy was so brutal and I agree. I ofcourse know what you are talking about. I do think anyone who is wanting to get into them they should check out no mercy and see what everything.

[@caradelevingne3988]

That ‘old guy’ is jyp’s founder and producer jyp stands for jin young park (the old man’s full name)

[@blocclips9252]

You have to keep in mind CHAN chose the members everyone of them. So ofc they debuted at “early”. cause it was up to Chan🤷🏾‍♀️ not the company on who gets to debut. But it’s normal for trainees to have long or short training periods there’s someone who was a trainee for 1 day only and they debuted 😟

[@jigb9975]

Thank you for your react! Stray kids are my favorite kpop group! The only. The best!

[@chrissyy89]

I don't know if you'll see this comment since it's an older upload at this point, but incase noone has mentioned it yet: Chan is a HARD CORE, LONG TIME FAN of Superwog on youtube 😂 He's watched them since he was a kid, and still does today, plus I believe he has a photo with them when he was younger. He loves the wogs 😂

[@914amc]

Bruuuh i love your skz reactions!! idk but u remind me of someone i used to know lol

[@yvettemontreal7885]

Thank you for your reaction 🤗

[@applebeesbrownie]

HE CALLED JYPAPI THE OLD MAN 😭

[@annasaddiction5129]

While I am not sure that Mr Bang Chan might already was back in South Korea as you had your "Youth local enemy" phasese there in Australia with these types of dudes who wore Niki shoes and co...I lowkey can't wait for other Australian Childhood-Teenage nuggest because a) Being from the other side of the world, it is really intresting to see how similliar or different other "Teenage experinces" could have been and b) I obviously want to see Bang Chan see this (and he probably will if he hasn't already) and maybe even comment one or the other habbit like "Australian life Nostaliga." ^^

[@xiannee9722]

Can't wait to see the Survival show i wish i could watch it when you react to that.

[@peachywink4874]

Jyp looks “late 30s” 😂

[@mayzaiz]

There are a lot of groups that debut without having been on a show like NCT, aespa, newjeans, (G)I-DLE, TXT, 8turn, Ateez and a bunch of others. But then there are some who go through survival shows. The most recent one, for example, is boys planet, which has made the group zerobaseone (JAY CHANG WAS ROBBED IM STILL MAD ABT THAT) . And the there's others like enhypen formed through I-LAND, Iz*one formed through produce 48, kep1er from girls planet 999 and there's a bunch of others that I could name. These survival shows arent like stray kids though with the members they want already picked, these ones have up to like 100 contestants being voted for by fans and stuff.

[@sierrawright5131]

18:18 so Chan had a really long training period while most of the others had extremely short training periods. 1-2 years is definitely not the normal 😂

[@colouredlies]

this guide is extremely outdated and like many of the comments are saying, it’s better if you watch newer guides because there are some interviews where chan details why he picked each member for the team. edit: it’s so outdated that it was made the year hyunjin graduated from sopa lol 😭😭

[@klaramell]

People probably already told you, but as someone from Sydney you might find the street versions of "Boxer" and "Mixtape #4" interesting. They were both filmed there and for Boxer there's even a short behind video. Would be funny if you know the locations - aside from the obvious tourist hot spots i mean. They have even more videos from sydney/australia, like 2 episodes of their show called "Finding SKZ" (episode 2 and 3 of the first season) or skz-talker go which is kind of a behind the scenes of their concerts and stuff. Fellow stays, please correct me if i'm wrong or forgot something.

[@slyuchi7206]

9:40 that guy is JYP himself, the name of te company comes from his name Park JinYoung

[@nesriine6187]

the old men is jyp the founder of jyp entertainment

[@Cornealia28]

The guy at the beginning 9:30 time stamp is JYP. He isn’t the CEO of JYPE but he has a lot of influence.

[@StayVCA98]

Also if you're interested, still open and looking for a guide I definitely recommend this one here, this was from last year, and not really a guide but more like run through of what has happened to them with a bit of usual infos here and there, I recommend this also Stays who doesn't know this, again Thank You!! Edit: This one also can be a bit SPOILy unless you're fine with it... 😅 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKa5homGm7ZniJo

[@bokkieyongie]

i dont know if someone answered this but I wanted to give my take on the survival shows. When kpop blew up in the west (mostly bc of BTS), the western media thought kpop was very 'fake', 'manifactured' because they joined and trained under a company and (mostly) didn't have a choice with who they debut. Survival shows, in my opinion, was to combat that and show their human side. You get to see these people struggle, do their best to debut and you connect to them. So it's also a way to create a connection between fan and idols so the group lasts longer. Stray kids is different though because Chan chose the members and the survival show was not about picking members to form a group but about proving Chans ability to create/form a cohesive, well trained group.

[@heyy13]

Catching up to this one. Hilarious you call yourselves wogs in Sydney. In Bris that's a slur. Regional language difference. I also learnt what an eshay was because of this channel. I am too old and to brissy haha.

[@sierrawright5131]

9:42 that my friend is the CEO of JYP entertainment, the namesake himself, JYP 😂

[@kayehasopinions]

park jinyoung (the old guy) is their boss! the ceo or creater of their company JYP entertainment. if you ever explore groups from the same company it is common that you will see idols making fun of him!

[@aliyaschlosser1369]

Twice is a very, very popular girl group from JYP. They are iconic in girl pop music in the industry, because they constantly release bops. You won't be able to not hear some of their music, even if you don't specifically react to them, if you continue to listen to music in this industry.

[@petrahavelykke5392]

I would definitely recommend the 2023 The rise of stray kids by Johnathan Miller as this one is very old and outdated and some of the facts are simply wrong

[@RJRXR1]

You keep saying about Korean beauty standards, but I'm pretty sure Felix is the complete opposite of the Korean beauty standards which is sad

[@DaddiesLittlePsycho]

Just his freckles. He actually fits the standards just a little less than Hyunjin. I.N. and Lee Know being the ones who do the most. Han and Changbin are the opposite of the Korean beauty standards... despite what I think, apparently. Lol

[@RJRXR1]

@@DaddiesLittlePsycho I'd say he's not pale enough either, as they always try white washing him 😕😢 also despite what I think, you're not alone there haha

[@clowneryhun6928]

I would recommend watching newer videos when it comes to stuff like guides but this was okay!

[@hi-hx6eo]

lee know trained for the least amount of time actually!! It was about 9 months im pretty sure

[@DaddiesLittlePsycho]

1 month before he joined Stray Kids, but by the time the survival show ended and the group officially debuted... yes.

[@hi-hx6eo]

@@DaddiesLittlePsycho oh really i didn’t know that! So he was training with stray kids after just one month?

[@ForNEXZ]

It was just easy for them cause chan chose them so they're lucky they got his attention

[@demiidle9627]

The old man is THE JYP himself, the man behind the company 😂❤ Bang Chan talks more about choosing members during their special interview with JYP for ALL IN release kzbin.info/www/bejne/lYvZkH5jq52oiqs&pp=ygUZc2t6IGp5cCBhbGwgaW4gaW50ZXJ2aWV3IA%3D%3D as for 3RACHA-focused i HIGHLY recommend 3 guide-like vids if you wanna know more about their work before and during skz: "3RACHA being the geniuses behind Stray Kids" by spookyskz8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2bKYmqae8xlraM&pp=ygUMM3JhY2hhIGd1aWRl (warning: long boi) "Stray Kids Guide: 3RACHA (2021)" by Vic Killjoy kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqG0gKKZesaWiLc&pp=ygUMM3JhY2hhIGd1aWRl (most recent) "An in-depth Guide to 3Racha" by SavageKingZ kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJ2tcpSontZobac&pp=ygUMM3JhY2hhIGd1aWRl Love your reactions, take care