Golf Shafts - WHICH ONE SHOULD YOU PLAY!?

[@brumfiba]

It's amazing you mentioned the weight rule of thumb in the beginning. Just got a new set of irons and went from a 105 to a 120 in the new set, and sure enough it has reduced my leftward miss by a substantial amount.

[@codyyoung1691]

I love my C-tapers. Played stock stiff shafts for so long early in my days, got fitted into C-tapers went from about a 15 to a 9 handicap in one season. Great stuff here!

[@mattreveles5032]

Literally was googling shaft differences this morning. Perfect timing!

[@lukeshaw8898]

Great video! I have just been fit for new irons with c taper 120’s in. It’s so true what you say about the low spin/launch not necessarily being the case. I tried $ taper but they were flying high and spinny, tried the c taper and they ended up being exactly where I needed to be numbers wise. Sexiest shaft in the world as well - bonus 🎉

[@smevox7490]

I'm 6 foot 4 with a ~95mph iron speed and currently using +0.5 inch stealths with Regular flex lol. I have my first fitting in one week, I hope it brings me some consistency. I'm very excited.

[@thews9237]

How did it go? We are same size..

[@smevox7490]

@@thews9237 not bad. I got +1 inch s300. But really they didn't have the longer shafts to use. So was tough.

[@livingtribunal4110]

​​@@smevox7490 Similar height here & wrist-to-floor is around 35.5"/36" I have my irons +0.5" and upright lie of 1.5° Im now in my 50s but used to hit with S300s about 15 years ago and switched to X100s a year later: no real difference that I could tell except better dispersion with X100s Took a LONG break from golf and returned this year. Decided to resume with S300s

[@edj9961]

Similar height, slightly slower swing speed. That’s what i dread most about fittings, not having any options to hit over standard length. Also hard to tell what i like using anything under midsize grip, i use jumbo size and just starting to try jumbomax

[@DanGranz72]

Love the content keep it coming. I will echo the sentiment about how important shaft can be and how it is very player dependent. I am a PGA member and recently did a multi session iron fitting (*because the first session shaft winner made no sense). I am a 52 year old pro, but can still get to 110+ SS with driver. The best iron shaft of the session. by a decent margin was the Nippon Zelos 7 stiff. I did it again a week later, and then about a month later and the Zelos was the clear winner. Literally makes no sense at all, yet here we are. It's the reason why we go through the fitting process to see if there is something that feels better than others, performs better than others, and produces the results we are looking for.

[@yeolderuckas8568]

Great video. I wish I could properly hit inside an indoor hitting bay. My swing just feels weird and I can't do it. I have to do all of my fittings outdoors.

[@hjm33]

I feel the same way, I just can’t hit properly indoors

[@TheBradleyp63]

Same here. I can't seem to swing more than 50-60% effort and I shank balls with the irons. I haven't shanked a ball on the course in 15 years

[@lavin214]

I had c taper lites in stiff in my irons, I got refit this year and got the money taper lite in regular and gained 24 yards

[@dustinloutsenhizer2180]

Trotie thank you for asking the simple questions, for us laymen. I really didn't know the whole truth about the weight of the shafts and its one of those things you can google and not get a good answer from a reliable source

[@joshmacias4151]

Great info ! Got fit by big wave Dave this week !

[@josephfrigo8422]

Got fit by David a month ago and he’s awesome to work with!!

[@kaseyneil5262]

Thanks for this video! Info I’ve been looking for!

[@AAkCN1]

Super helpful. Thx.

[@CraigalFun]

I enjoy the Tour 120 in my irons but struggle in wedges. Might go back to DG for softer in butt around the greens

[@robpottergolf]

STUNNING educational vlog, gents. Absolutely love this 👍🏻

[@pedroramsey]

i like kbs and mmt for my irons. as always pleasure to watch and learn

[@EdgarJFeliz]

Playing KBS PGI 80 S in my irons Great shafts!!!

[@SD-er6bw]

Thanks for the video I've good success using KBS Tour Lite 105S in my W D7Forged irons. My elbow injuries are now taking their toll and I'm trying to find out what the graphite equivalent is and how they get spec'ed with irons. Even a starting point on the most like for like graphite iron shaft to this KBS steel shaft would help.

[@notScissors]

I think the notes about when to get fit and get a fit checked was very interesting. I do not, and I bet many other amateurs do not, know when to reevaluate equipment choices.

[@juiceqc7716]

Have KBS HI-REV G 80 Wedge shafts in all my wedges. Like them.

[@stephenadams6959]

Great video guys

[@thirufrompe]

Hello. Like your video. I am 60 years old and play off 10 handicap. What shaft should I be looking at if I want a light shaft and the head to be a little heavier. I get 230 at most on my driver. Playing tm m6 d type driver. I need shafts for my irons.

[@ZeeK33NKS]

5.5 rifles - Irons 130X $-Taper - Wedges 70X Speeder Evo VII - 7w 60S Tip’d 1” Ventus Red - Mini Dr 50S Speeder NX - Driver 115 Club Speed Stiff butt w/ heavy or small kick is the feel i care about. Play for feel and bomb it fellas!🤙🏽

[@fictionalgaming912]

One thing that is missing from here with KBS IRON Shafts is which of their WEDGE shafts pair well with each of their IRON shafts. Weight, stiffness profile, shot profile (LOW, MID, HIGH)

[@Bigwavedavegolf]

That’s a great idea for a video we might do that next!

[@trottiegolf]

agree with @davidanderson-mk3cy great idea

[@jaylisted9714]

I feel personally attacked by this thumbnail. 😂😂😂

[@firemedic105ns]

I feel like they are looking right at me with that thumbnail lol

[@appleguy6708]

Hey!?!

[@jasonwinslow3543]

KBS TD Driver/Fairway shafts are money!

[@nitinchennam]

Congrats on 100k Trottie!

[@trottiegolf]

Cheers 🍺

[@ellismeade]

Yeah I'm looking to beak 90

[@peterprice8393]

Hi Guys . Just quick question I would like your thoughts on please . If You were looking at lighter shafts for the senior player say an 85 gram steel would gravitate to a lighter swing weight in the build . Say C8 to D0 Or just go on the player feed back ..?

[@trottiegolf]

With senior players they generally grew up with heavier SW's so I don't like to lighten them off too much unless we're dealing with injuries or extremely slow speeds where lighter will help BUT it's gotta be slow.

[@shaneWARs1]

I've noticed in golf stores even pga super stores you can't just go in to most golf stores and buy a shaft for your driver . Wight for me is about consistent timing

[@chrisolson3949]

I wish fittings of this level were more accessible in more places. I just got fit into an inch longer c-taper 130. Now I’m wondering if I’m flipping at the ball and causing that high spinner, which might have gone unnoticed by the fitter.

[@shawnsee2688]

I play a +1 shaft stiff flex. Should I consider different shafts for different clubs? Maybe my long irons, should I get something with less spin to get more run out from vs my short irons that I need to stop?

[@trottiegolf]

Irons I'd keep in the same profile albeit I have seen Tour guys change the long irons V's short but for the most part proceed with caution into that space. Woods can be more specific and wedges can be more specific but irons for the most part keep the same.

[@joshclayg]

I'd add another time to get fit, after a long time away from the game.

[@jackfardell]

Big wave Dave the legend

[@aaroncastillo9679]

Big wave!!

[@devanehill6141]

Got fitted at Club champion for project x 6.5 iron shaft .looking for an iron shaft in the KBS line that’s equivalent to or similar to the project x6.5

[@justgettinby8260]

It may not be an exact comparison or even close but for me personally I alternate between PX 6.5 and $-Taper 130 and hit them both the same and have been for into both. I just go with $-T 130 bc I like the Black PVD color and it’s almost impossible to find the blacked out 6.5

[@Bigwavedavegolf]

The project X6.5 is 125 g shaft. Or two most comparable shafts would be the tour V 125 S+ tour spec. And the $ taper 125 S+

[@gregoryvu3493]

If I wanted to get loft, lie, and shaft fitted for my irons (and keep the iron heads) what's a good ballpark on price for that ?

[@tellwilliams4493]

To all club builders and to all club retailers, if everybody talked in CPM life would be much easier . And much less mistakes in buying the wrong shafts.

[@trottiegolf]

Some folks are massive CPM guys, I know KBSX checks everything for CPM during the building process. I think it's wise and don't disagree with where your head is at

[@Erictheking66]

Where does $ taper fit in on the scale?

[@Bigwavedavegolf]

KBS tour is stiff under the grip C Taper is stiff in the tip section $ Taper is stiffest in the mid section on the shaft.

[@sdd1588]

Is stuff in the handle softer in the tip bend point? If I wanted stiffer in the handle for higher launch how is that represented in the specs?

[@trottiegolf]

You'd play the same set up but your launch window would increase , or should I say your dynamic loft would change

[@dublingb]

Great to get some knowledge on shaft profiles. How long would it normally take an amateur with a proper fitter to figure out what type of shaft they'd be good with? I ask, because most amateur fittings we're given an hour, which flies by and you never feel like you've gotten a clear idea of what the good numbers are that you're being put into.

[@trottiegolf]

A good fitter doesn't need longer than an hour

[@carlhughes7003]

I’m in the process of getting new clubs and the whole fitting thing for me is scary as I’m Not a great golfer. Seem to slice a bit and had Taylor Made Sim 2 max full set. I found the driver hard work and the irons heavy so need this time to make sure it’s set for me. Without seeing my game what kinda thing would you recommend? I also have purchased the tour aim so I can actually practice properly. I have been on the range a lot but it’s hitting off mats and also been practicing the wrong thing! Do you have any suggestions on using the tour aim?

[@trottiegolf]

Tour Aim user guide I'm actually filming tomorrow so that's all in hand. The whole shaft recommendation piece, honestly you gotta get a fitting. Look at the 105g weight as a start point but I'm loosely basing that off what I'm reading here. Very tough for me to nail it without seeing you hit it.

[@JS44UM]

Trottie, would a heavier shaft help to slows my right hand that closes the face ? Currently in a 6.5 125g

[@trottiegolf]

It’s gonna be harder to turn over for sure

[@JS44UM]

Trottie, is it real that the $taper is more counter balance feel than the C taper?

[@coreywratchford2325]

I just went from project x 6.5 to KBS tour 130 x + .5 inch they don’t feel as stiff to me but they feel good and a little higher ball flight never liked the feel of the c- taper they always felt awful to me for some reason

[@Bigwavedavegolf]

The tour shaft and the C-taper are opposite shafts in our lineup. It’s no surprise if you like one you do not like the other!

[@jonathanlaprise189]

I love stiff shaft with big woods

[@drroger98]

How much does what type of tip vs butt stiffness in irons translate to driver shaft?

[@trottiegolf]

defo translates

[@davehurley26]

Brilliant 😊😊

[@SteveSiwak-sv8sd]

Hey buddy been a long time since we play The challenge tour together I got a question in the tour van 3/4" off a driver tip is industry standard in the commercial side drive goes no trim straight in 🤔

[@trottiegolf]

hey mate. 1" off driver would be "standard" albeit I hate listed any kind of standard as obv you're playing around a lot with feel. But look if you need an absolute this is what I go off: 1" driver 1.5" 3 wood 2" 5 wood STR in Rescue 17 .25" or .5" rescue 19 .5" rescue 22 Hybrid shafts generally stronger in the tips so you don't have to go crazy on the tipping

[@derekcarday]

Trottie, what does the club manufacturer do to keep the swing weight close to D2/D3 when someone orders with a shaft that is maybe slightly heavier like a KBS tour 130 x? do they add weight down at the hosel? how do they keep that from messing with the club head balance?

[@trottiegolf]

yea you got it. Weight in the hosel during the build process.

[@derekcarday]

@@trottiegolf thank you

[@adamhillian967]

In the intro it touched on this type of shaft being better for those with lack of mobility, but I missed it during the video. Anyone know the timestamp?

[@greasby1golf871]

Trottie, Im playing qi10 LS 9 at 8 dg Ventus Black 7x with left dash still spinning at 27 avg, Avg launch conditions AOA +4 SWP 0.2 right ftp 0.1 left . Spin still seems a bit high to me? Strike is middle to middle toe on a bad one

[@trottiegolf]

what's your launch ? You might be hitting it a fraction low in the blade. That's a lotta shaft.

[@greasby1golf871]

@@trottiegolf launch is avg 12.1

[@jamesturnbull1894]

Im probably wrong.. But i thougt the tour v was stiffer at the tip for lower spin and tight dispersion.. He said here tour shafts are stiffer in the grip for more spin. Or have i just completely misunderstood. 🤷‍♂️😁😂

[@mitchellbartunek1993]

Trottie please help. I have had poor fitting experience. Need real help. Got fit to KBS tour 120g S flex. 7 iron I’m right around 90mph club head speed ball speed120. Previously played project x rifle 6.0 and carried it 170.Now with these new shafts l'm only carry 155 160.Apexing at 135-140' launch at 24 degree. I'm assuming I'm just getting to high ball flight and loosing distance? Is it me and my swing or is shaft? Thank you!

[@trottiegolf]

Spin rate? Sounds like it could be over spinning, what ball are you playing?

[@GolfOnTap]

I volunteer as tribute!!!

[@adamfahey108]

6”4 and an inch longer, Is me to a tee 😂 playing Project X 6.0 hard stepped. Now thinking I should be in something lighter from that quick conversation 😅😅😅😅😅. Need to get re-fitted

[@thews9237]

I was in same boat. Got 80 gram graphites. Swinging smoother and more distant and better dispersion.

[@mrmatt8949]

So is my C Taper 110 lite no good for a player only just breaking 100?

[@trottiegolf]

Not necessarily, it'll keep the flight down a bit for sure

[@mrmatt8949]

@@trottiegolf thanks Trottie. They’re just so pretty 🤣

[@davidfoulkes1377]

Trottie said arm length is proportional to height. Not necessarily. Some people have gorilla arms (me) and some T-Rex arms. How would you find the correct shaft length for outliers?

[@trottiegolf]

I've always gone of a dynamic fit and studied strike, if a player doesn't strike it well then static fitting charts for shaft length are available.

[@davidfoulkes1377]

@@trottiegolf Thanks. As a starting point, particularly for absolute beginners, have you ever considered putting someone in the correct stance and using that to establish appropriate club lengths?

[@trottiegolf]

@@davidfoulkes1377 visually looking at how someone addresses the ball is part of the process when working with an early golfer

[@BigDawgCAM]

Can’t wait for further growth of graphite shafts. I don’t think steel shafts will exist in a couple decades

[@trottiegolf]

I think they'll exist but I do think graphite has come a long way

[@CamMacMastermusic]

I literally just asked for this video on your last video 2 days ago… thanks for the quick response T !! 🔥 video as always !!

[@trottiegolf]

Filmed Q&A & Play today where I answered a ton of questions, gonna be a great vid

[@Trump2024Kentucky]

What about spending more time on 75-80 mph swing speed 7 iron guys which is most of us. Lite weight steel shafts in the 85-100 gram range maybe. Seems like this is more focused on a Jr. golfer or faster swing speeds. What about spending more time on the average Joe?

[@trottiegolf]

Fair and we can loop back into that specific weight / speed for sure.

[@phildormergolf]

Wish we had this level of fitting in uk.

[@trottiegolf]

I hear on the grapevine that there could be a new facility opening near north London. Not sure it's common knowledge so I'll stop there. Might wanna get on my mailing list and I'll keep ya posted.

[@phildormergolf]

North London is very local so keen to hear more

[@SmithSkidSteerService]

This has probably been said a million times , but how cool would it be to get a fitting by these guys.

[@trottiegolf]

www.trottiegolf.com get on the mailing list, it'll happen one day I'm sure

[@StittyShicks]

after watching this, i need to go back and make sure i shouldn't still be playing my grandpa's old graphite irons. EGO CHECKED!

[@trottiegolf]

🤣😂 Granpa was a PLYR for sure

[@BeenWeldin]

He could be Dean snells brother lol. Looks just like him.

[@ajhd95]

I'm partially disabled due to a car accident 10 years ago. I'm 28 now and got into golf last year. I currently play a senior flex shaft, but i'm wondering if i'm limiting myself? I've been wondering whether I should look at a shaft change, I really want to add more distance to my shots. I know I need a proper fitting to know for sure what suits me best but any input and guidance would be appreciated. I really am a dummy.

[@Adam-tm7qh]

Weight is far more important for feel and timing, if you're new to golf you probably won't even be able to tell the difference with flex without looking.

[@trottiegolf]

Depends on your speed but I wouldn't rule out graphite to max out your numbers

[@Iamfeelzmusic]

Why did you have to call me out like this with the title.

[@CorekBleedingHollow]

I wanna see a tour player fitting. Someone, anyone playing with Taylormade.

[@trottiegolf]

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[@gustavkjellgren42]

And Tour Lite??? Stiff 100 gram.

[@Trump2024Kentucky]

Odd they don’t even mention the lighter weight steel options.

[@duncanmacleod7283]

Why do Americans say 'get fit' when it's 'get fitted' for golf clubs. The gym is the place to get fit. Just saying...

[@coreygardner8424]

Was 95% talking 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@trottiegolf]

yup, this one off vid needed to be that

[@jacobr4558]

What a absolute load of crap! How is none of this common knowledge? So I've been trying to adjust my swing for about 5 years just because I don't know this knowledge this information. Yet this information is never actually put out and nobody actually makes anything plain. I go to Fitters I go to Gulf coaches everything else you can think of yet none of this information is actually put out there why?

[@philipj.sherman2987]

What a waste...

[@niteninja0133]

I dont like a heavy shaft. I like light shafts, i add lead tape to the heads on my irons so i can feel the head

[@chrisb.4496]

People would be surprised at the amount of regular and stiff that are on tours worldwide. Also after 29 yrs as a professional, weight is king not necessary flex...

[@g_nw]

ayyyyy our guy 🫱🏻‍🫲🏼

[@OkieBrosGolf]

Dang! Maybe I don’t need my 130x’s 🥹

[@trottiegolf]

lotta golf shaft

[@paulsullivan6409]

Great video with awesome content. Learned a lot for my next fitting. Thanks Trottie