Troy - Achilles and Agamemnon [1080p Blu-Ray] ᴴᴰ

Troy - Achilles and Agamemnon [1080p Blu-Ray] ᴴᴰ

[@edinscot56789]

'Perhaps the Kings were too far behind to see. The soldiers won the battle.' Great quote

[@borisdorofeev5602]

Yeah it was, except Achilles was actually a king.

[@Dark_Voice]

@Kiwi MGTOW I would say it wasnt as true then as its now. Before those truly skilled soldiers were remembered and sometimes even more than their Kings or commanders but now the number is so big you really have to be a good officer or a leader of a country to get noticed.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Funny too because they are always behind. But some kings did follow their men into battle. Half of our leaders are warriors and the other half are politicians. Puts leadership into perspective.

[@andrewfrazier547]

@@borisdorofeev5602 Achilles is not a king, he is a warlord. Agamemnon says it I the beginning of the movie. I quote,(of all the warlords in Greece the gods love him most)

[@borisdorofeev5602]

@@andrewfrazier547 In the Trojan Epic, the work this movie is based on, Achilles was a king.

[@mg19cal]

Agamemnon: "History remembers kings, not soldiers." Alexander The Great: "sheeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiit, watch me do BOTH."

[@SantomPh]

unlike Agamemnon, Alexander actually fought and nearly died in his battles. He survived an axe to the helmet, an arrow to the chest and various other wounds.

[@mg19cal]

@@SantomPh EXACTLY, he DEFINITELY earned his title of "Great"

[@blankblank5409]

Both world wars: wat

[@fabiokaya202]

Alexander the great was a snitch rat. belongs in prison

[@e.m.p.3394]

DAMN This sh*t funny af.

[@nickmartin8495]

“You want gold? Take it, it’s my gift to honor your courage.” Great sarcasm in that insult.

[@ThePaganSun]

Actually, this movie was highly inaccurate. Agamemnon was one of the best warriors which Achilles himself (after he makes up with Agamemnon) acknowledges (Book 23). And Agamemnon routs an army and is the 8nly major hero to do so without divine assistance or divine weapons. (Book 11).

[@Arbaal]

@@ThePaganSun That fat Sack of Wine!

[@ThePaganSun]

@@Arbaal Actually, Achilles calls him a "Drinker of wine" in the Iliad, but doesn't call him "Fat." Agamemnon was actually stated to have "eyes and head like Zeus, waist like Ares, and chest like Poseidon" (Book 2) so he was extremely handsome and very strong.

[@queenanneboleyn6848]

@@ThePaganSun The fact that you are defending Agamemnon everywhere.

[@ThePaganSun]

@@queenanneboleyn6848 He's my favorite epic hero from the Iliad and the movie portrayed him inaccurately. He was an amazing warrior who was the only major hero on both sides that never needed help from the gods. And he and Achilles reconciled before Achilles' death and shared a very amicable conversation in the Underworld in the Odyssey.

[@Stokie09123]

"Ignore the politics" Once a Stark always a Stark!

[@EluSivICZeROxAwe]

+Stokie09123 yet u see him fight for them fken Hypocrite "we need to be put in check" yea okay.

[@admiralflynn895]

+Ox7ProTotyPe ....wrong Stark, wrong fandom.

[@theofficialphoenixtv5765]

he was Odysseus before he was a Stark lmfao

[@spiritusIRATUS]

Except here he is the smartest instead of the dumbest leader.

[@courserhunter5592]

Robert I Baratheon yeah your one to talk you'd rather kill a baby and her mother whose also married a darthraki war lord

[@roryslaine7896]

"No argument with you brothers, but if you don't release her you'll never see home again. Decide." Awesome quote.

[@WJstudios04]

GUARDS!

[@WalrusDoom]

“You sack of wine!” Sickest burn

[@JuanDeSoCal]

Called him a booze bag

[@chrisferguson5381]

LOL I suppose drinking wine out of a sack could have been looked down upon in those days

[@Ugh-Fudge_Bwana]

@@chrisferguson5381 Nah it's just another way of calling someone a drunk. "You smell like a bar" would be a modern equivalent.

[@Kitchdmn3]

Love how he just talks shit to Agamemnon and he just basically takes it.

[@JOHN----DOE]

It's in the Iliad. That's about all in this schlock movie that IS in the Iliad.

[@forcehd1460]

*No argument with you brothers, but if you don't release her you'll never see home again... decide!* Best part :P absolutely badass

[@robertguzman3356]

na YOU SACK OF WINE is

[@davidsosa538]

bet they shit temselves:)

[@talacocheta9001]

@Venemyyz - That's why I watched this. The best line ever!

[@nicksixer]

best line of the movie...

[@markperalta3210]

After all these years that line stuck to me the most

[@Vakama95096]

"Before my time is done, I will look down on your corpse and smile" Now that's very badass

[@wayneoneal7952]

@a a in real life he wouldn't have said it he would have done it!

[@Omega4Productions]

Agamemnon wouldn't dare lay a hand on him. He knows his kingship is only as good as his army, and the army loves Achilles, not him.

[@ThePaganSun]

And yet he never did...in the actual Iliad.

[@trinhngo4647]

They should include that scene in the movie when Agamennon died

[@cautarepvp2079]

​@@Omega4Productions he would have, except it was in the tent, he insulted the king infront of all other people, its a risk move

[@varunemani]

Brad was born to play Achilles.. Memorable role.

[@paulseeth7938]

I wish there was an alternate form of this scene where Achilles takes out all the guards, kills Agamemnon and sails away with Breseis.

[@finsfan90]

They should have filmed it just for shits and giggles.

[@Spacegoat92]

How Troy should have ended.

[@TellingItLikeItIs2000]

Spacegoat92 Both HISHE and Honest Trailers should do this.

[@siddhaantsaagar7130]

Ohhh.. how beautiful!

[@NZENZN]

Paul Seeth yes and the rest of the film is a beautiful porno

[@ConsiderTheCrows]

I'm surprised the guards even thought to follow an order to attack Achilles knowing death is certain.

[@viettrungtran4500]

That loyalty right there.

[@ConsiderTheCrows]

I wonder why Achilles didn't just slay Agamemnon.

[@viettrungtran4500]

Blue Vervain He maybe the finest warrior in ancient history. But even the strongest tiger could not stand against an endless wave of enemy. Take 300 or Lu Bu story as example.

[@jonpowell4246]

+Sage Wolf he could've if not for his sense of compassion.

[@TomiAdewoleAdetom]

Death would certainly have resulted had they chosen NOT to follow such an order. And a king such as Agamemnon might even take it out on their families as a deterrent to future soldiers.

[@kazuhirala]

"Sack of wine!" my favorite insult, mainly because people think its a compliment

[@Lietiel]

lol Who the fuck thinks that?

[@kazuhirala]

Trust me inve said a couple of times to people and they dont seem to be offended but just nod their head

[@Mike-zo6vj]

+Lietiel People with an I.Q. higher than yourself.

[@Lietiel]

Miles Hamblen Wow, what a scathing retort. Did you come up with that witty gem all by yourself or did your Asian "comfort woman's" pimp help you write it?

[@cosingapalpatine7675]

+Miles Hamblen Yeah, because you must be a genius, renting cars to people when you're not busy attacking valid questions on KZbin.

[@frankinsaneandmyrrh1202]

before he says "ignore the politics," he also says to him, "war is young men dying and old men talking." simple but painfully true.

[@xristosvsd7780]

Indeed

[@jimmystyles6203]

Every soldier wants to be remembered like Achilles was.

[@user-zw1zc2hd8i]

Jimmy Styles every soldier and every fighter

[@haskapaska]

Achille´s heel.... Yeah. Every soldier wants to be known for their weakness.

[@Who-Uhm-Cares]

haskapaska Achilles weakness was a Women.

[@magicmooney5011]

No that is the point of achilles, soldiers are motivated by gold and riches that king promises for victory for achilles he don't care about that. Even In today standard ppl who strive for greatness are admired. Ppl who only work for money hunker together and complain all day, and wish they could have the money of the greats. They don't realize that money is a by product of greatness.

[@adityanawani8134]

100th like!😊😊😊

[@brianbernstein3826]

it's so brilliant when Achilles finally threatens the king's life, he's calling his bluff because they both know the king can't assassinate Achilles without losing the loyalty of his army. and in the exact same scene, Agamemnon is thrilled to discover that the invincible hero does in fact have a point of weakness. what a movie!

[@alexman378]

This whole thing was just a power move to remind Achilles who’s the big dog. It backfired hilariously because Hector laid waste on them when they went in without Achilles.

[@ThePaganSun]

@@alexman378 Except in the actual Iliad, it backfired because Achilles' mother is a goddess who asked Zeus to let the Trojans win! There are countless times the Greeks could've won without Achilles since Agamemnon, Big Ajax and Diomedes were all Hector's equal or better.

[@vk3567]

@@ThePaganSun Diomedes was definitely better than Hector. In the Iliad he even defeated Ares 1v1!!!

[@ThePaganSun]

@@vk3567 Diomedes and Big Ajax are shown to be slightly better than Hector since Hector usually came off worse than them when they would fight. But Achilles and Agamemnon were shown to be significantly better than Hector since Hector was warned by the gods not to fight either of them. But actually Diomedes was only able to wound Aphrodite and Ares because he was given enhanced strength by Athena. Agamemnon is the one that never needed divine weapons or direct divine aid in battle.

[@vk3567]

@@ThePaganSun No,Agamemnon wasn't that good in the Iliad.

[@eval_is_evil]

History remembers kings not soldiers....aaaand he lost that bet.

[@scouttroop291]

+Tomi in the old days this now who was ira hays boy or darby or pappy boyinton the list is long boy york is one too as long as there storys are tolled how the king ? name is lost he was true

[@eval_is_evil]

j lin​ what the heck ?

[@eval_is_evil]

*****​​ lol oh okay ,understood :D

[@ccchrv]

+j lin ^LOL..

[@Korakaris]

History remembers both of them actually..each for different reasons.

[@jmmasters6100]

Achiless so badass, he can threaten the king inside his own tent, and doesnt get punished

[@FimbongBass]

he doesnt even give a response either lol he knows if he says anything else then achilles will cut him down

[@ThePaganSun]

Because this movie is inaccurate. Agamemnon insulted him back and could've hurt or killed him too which is why the goddess Athena actually pulls his hair.

[@trevorprice7366]

Hes a king he could have achillies killed, i think, the main reason he needs achillies is because hes nothing less then an asset. His squad alone took that temple hector was at.

[@Mr.Nobody_97]

It’s the same feeling I got when ser barristan insulted king jofferey after they forced him into retirement. Nobody was willing to shut him down because he is as skillful as he is snappy, even the hound (who arguably is the closest skilled warrior to ser barriston) had to hold his sheathed sword behind the kings guard

[@joeofmacabre07]

Is it just me or Brian Cox's voice is just so sophisticated and cool to hear.

[@eval_is_evil]

absolutely ....also why no Odysseus movie with Sean Bean dammit ???

[@PuppetierMaster]

+joeofmacabre07 Watch Red 1 and 2 He's really the backbone of those 2 movies

[@JackalTheMasked]

+Tomi Because Odysseus doesn't die in the end :P

[@eval_is_evil]

JackalTheMasked​ haha that's a good one! Poor Sean Bean :))))

[@terminator324343]

+joeofmacabre07 Don't worry, you're not the only one who is charmed by Brian Cox's voice. Frankly, I might like Agamemnon more than Achilles.

[@pavlinlako3059]

"Before my time is done, I will look down upon your corpse and smile!" One of the best lines.

[@jib2355]

she saved all their lives they should have thanked her

[@antaress8128]

They tried to thank her personally later that night but Achiles disrupted the thanksgiving and took her to his tent again.

[@gustavoritter7321]

@@antaress8128 lol on second watch, ur actually right. Brave girl though

[@in_vas_por8810]

Even now I could cut through the 10 of you like carving a cake!!!"

[@ayandak47]

@@autoeroticruler Not really... he's shady. What kind of KingsGaurd serves a Usurper. As soon as he heard there were still Targaryans around he should have fled the city to go be by their side. He may have been able to quell Viserys maddness and stop Jorah from betraying Dany or her brothers where abouts. The douche only went changed sides because of the humilation of being fired by a boy king.

[@ayandak47]

@@autoeroticruler No, his option was seek out the remaining Targaryans whom I should serve because the spies say they are still alive. It was common knowledge Dany and Viserys escaped, everyone knew they went east. Barriston the old is shady. Who serves a Usurper. He should have played along with Robert serving until sneaking away like he did to serve the heirs like he did after Joffery became King and fired his ass.

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Here boy! Melt it down with the others!

[@BlackDiamond2718]

He said 5 though

[@murderouskitten2577]

Salmy and Achilies butchering jofrey and agamenmon - sounds like best crossover ever :)

[@TheStromxxxx]

lol agamemnon was wrong, Achilles much more famous then him today.

[@kross777rlsh9]

TheStromxxxx So true.

[@emreh6599]

TheStromxxxx there is literally a part of the body named after him, the Achilles tear as everybody knows. So yeah

[@jherrenor]

Lucky he wasn't shot in the dick then.

[@mrlargon]

Well both are famous and known to day

[@MrBraddles3128]

Kobe Bryant the g.o.a.t, you mean ‘Achilles Tendon’.

[@zyzor]

its true everyone remembers the leader no one remembers the soldiers. Everyone knows the name Napoleon but nobody knows the men who fought and died in his campaigns.

[@XxKinGzxX100]

+Zyzor But growing up as a kid i knew the name achilles and not agamemnom

[@NiekGAE]

+Zyzor Kind of hard to remember over 15.000.000 names from those wars alone isn't it.

[@aaronmarshall1212]

No shit. That's why you never join the army

[@zacharymueller7127]

Napoleon was always on the front line, that's the difference.

[@TVmadness3]

He was not in the front line though, get your facts straight. He stayed away from there and commanded from the rear as any wise commander would at that time. Fighting in the front lines would sooner or later have ended with his death.

[@buttercup645]

Agamemnon has been my favorite character this whole movie.

[@williamdavies9339]

I don't blame u it's fucking Brian cox awesome actor

[@osaretincaving462]

Thank you i taught i was alone

[@ThePaganSun]

He's my favorite character in the actual Iliad!! This version of him is inaccurate. Agamemnon was said to have "eyes and head of Zeus, waist like Ares, chest like Poseidon " (Book 2). Enemy king Priam is said to have admired his looks and strength (Book 3). He was one of the three best warriors out of nine the army most wanted to fight Hector (Book 7), he routs the Trojans army to their walls without divine weapons or divine aid (Book 11), and even Achilles later admits Agamemnon is "the best in strength and in throwing the spear." (Book 23).

[@NexusCool1]

Sack of wine ! lol

[@todayforever204]

+NexusCool1 Back then wine was served in a sack

[@demigod2324]

+NexusCool1 that is actually in the Iliad also

[@SherlockHolmes000]

+NexusCool1 His insides are fermented, and sour.

[@brandonselitetv1436]

+Quentin Lennox Here in the American Republic we use gallon

[@robertguzman3356]

Lmao exactly what I thought...I never remembering hearing that before.

[@Tsaroff21]

"FUCK OFF!" ~ Logan Agamemnon, probably

[@daniel_a_sanchez1999]

Achilles could've killed everybody in the room but the girl in a matter of two minutes......

[@eval_is_evil]

women tend to castrate us...just today I went into a big argument with a pretty tough looking guy (loudmouth). I know that before I met my gf I would be all over that ...even if it meant I would get beaten like hell. Would come back with a fucking stick next time

[@alyctus]

+Tomi so women make you less violent then :)

[@eval_is_evil]

Silmarien Ingoldo exactly :)

[@geomag527]

+Tomi They have the ability to calm the demons within us. That is necessary at times my wife has that affect on me and i thank her for that.

[@eval_is_evil]

Geo Mag yeah...amen to that

[@Xaverian3]

“Make your own fucking pile” -Agamemnon Roy

[@gaborszucs8717]

Sack of wine? I would be sooo confused if someone called me that.

[@evilmoif]

Gábor Szűcs and yet, what a great insult!

[@AleXandrYuZ]

+Gábor Szűcs In Latin AMerica he calls him "Dog face" ...

[@BigNoseDog]

Use it in a bar fight and see what reaction you get. LOL

[@propheccy]

+Gábor Szűcs In the German version he calls him "drunken pig" haha sack of wine is much nicer IMO

[@demigod2324]

+Gábor Szűcs that line was actually taken directly out of The Iliad.....

[@dirdib69]

I'll always remember Brian Cox's comment about how gorgeous Brad was during this movie. Straight or not, you couldn't help but notice him.

[@heliotropezzz333]

Sometimes he seemed to be wearing lip gloss as if the director wanted him to look the best.

[@canarypurpledesign]

The movie was the best still the best

[@oliverzurcher2241]

it was and it is a great film that is for sure

[@samfisher2306]

PaperChaser great film but have you seen Braveheart or Gladiator?

[@robin2604]

I agree, those are 2 great movies but let's be honest, they don't make movies like troy anymore.

[@mitsuevo8mr]

Troy was a great movie but GLADIATOR was 300 times better..

[@redpoppotus]

What about 2 years later

[@AngrySilence]

"You sack of wine!" "F*ck off!"

[@hirthirthirt1693]

I L O V E that actor that displayed the king.....so good. Looks great, acted great, was great

[@h1e2x3]

2:56 Agamemnon's crap hits the floor

[@ThePaganSun]

In the actual Iliad, Agamemnon was almost Achilles' equal in battle! (Book 11).

[@h1e2x3]

@@ThePaganSun So what ?

[@ThePaganSun]

@@h1e2x3 So he's awesome and not afraid of Achilles.

[@h1e2x3]

@@ThePaganSun He was awesome and he was afraid of Achilles which both are obvious.

[@ThePaganSun]

@@h1e2x3 He was afraid of Achilles in the movie but not in the actual epic. So the movie was inaccurate.

[@samuraipanda851]

Jokes on you, Agamemnon. You didn't get named after a tendon in the medical books.

[@ThePaganSun]

No, but he got remembered for a rich tomb. 👍

[@BaddieBossUniversity]

Logan Roy always trying to rule some ish 😂

[@hieubeo1202]

2:45 soldier behind Achilles: ''ok chill Achilles i'm gonna..i'm gonna stay back''

[@smik4978]

Agamemnon took a very big risk. Achilles could have easily killed all the guards and Agamemnon. It was only because the girl told him not to that they weren't killed.

[@stevengonzalez2318]

smik4978 no fucking shit

[@M3Lucky]

Not a risk at all. Achilles would be dead if he tried to do that. Killing the King is murder of the highest order; Achilles death would be ensured

[@gokhangeta6289]

Nobody touches achilles he is too respected even after killing agamemnon

[@M3Lucky]

There were like 8 guards about to touch Achilles, mate

[@undrielgrenger53]

And there was soon to be eight bodies laying around too (no, 9 if you include Agamemnon)...if Breseis didn't interfere.

[@cesarcarbajal21]

Achilles would've killed those guys easy

[@jimmystyles6203]

He would've killed the next fifty men who would charge in

[@josephorlando7108]

And King Agamemnon with them too.

[@tonyocr12]

Doubtful, even the most skilled of warriors will have very low odds of survival against multiple combattants , surrounding him no less and all armed,trained soldiers. How can you parry more than two attacks with only one weapon? Especially when the attacker is out of your line of sight. It's impossible. He'd have to have thought out a strategy beforehand to attempt to swiftly take them out one by one before they have a chance to gang up on him.

[@rocketraccoon1976]

+ Shiro Kotomine In real life, yes, but in this movie, no. According to the movie's logic, Achilles would have definitely slaughtered them all by himself. He pretty much did just that in the scene where he attacks and slays all the guards at Apollo's temple.

[@JoseOrtiz-be4zi]

Shiro Kotomine Nah he had already won even before the exchange of swords. At the moment he adopted a fighting pose you could easily see the fear in their face

[@BlackDiamond2718]

Why is no one talking about how she got him to back down. That was so deep and you could feel your own temper cool when she spoke the truth.

[@Justforthefifteen]

Didn’t realized Harvey Weinstein was in this movie...

[@nycwizrd8348]

🤣🤣👀👀🤣🙄

[@thetrax3482]

Lol my thoughts exactlyv

[@iwanttodie7199]

Where?

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

God damnit dude I nearly choked on my bagel reading this. Though really. Harvey Weinstein makes Agamemnon look like Achilles

[@samfisher2306]

Omg lol...I instantly knew who you were referring to lol

[@zzzzz1251]

"HISTORY REMEMBERS KINGS NOT SOLDIERS" Epic line

[@Quinntus79]

I guess that’s true, but most people only remember Agamemnon for being a fuck up. He pissed off Artemis, he murdered his daughter, He pissed off Apollo, turning the tide of battle against the Achaeans, he refused to heed Cassandra’s warnings, and then he got axed by his ex wife. Agamemnon is the biggest screw up the house of Atreus produced.

[@guido4861]

You can have the beach i did not come here for sand... Haha awesome!

[@alphakodiak16]

I love when undeserving authorities get challenged and humiliated, especially since they are not used to it. It just feels so reviving.

[@jacobwilliams5271]

" First, you need the victory."

[@divinelove4604]

"I don't want anyone dying for me." I love that part. Sounds like something I would have said.

[@deanvo503]

Nobody would have died for u tho

[@divinelove4604]

@@deanvo503 Did I say they would have?

[@deanvo503]

​@@divinelove4604 yes, implicitly, but believe me when I repeat that NO ONE, EVER, would die for you, and you know it.

[@divinelove4604]

@deanvo503 , I suggest you keep it moving and stop directing your ugliness to me. Keep your negativity to yourself. You are a nasty bastard and you know it. In the past many have died for me even though I never asked them to, while I have already at one point, died for everyone including yourself and those who have not been born yet. I did that not you.

[@thalessilva1]

@@deanvo503 you never know that destiny is interesting...

[@firefox1234ize]

Love the way Agamemnon looks at the girl to see if she has some type of bewitching spell😂

[@patookwy9240]

U can have d beach.."I didn't come hee for sand" Troy has d highest badass quotes in any movie I've watched

[@keonefatiaki]

The acting was spot on 🙌🏽

[@samtate2011]

Why does Agamemnon purposely try and piss off Achilles and belittle him when he knows he's the greatest warrior in Greece, that without him victory becomes far more difficult. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Not only is he NOT wise, he's a fucking idiot, I really don't understand what he was trying to achieve. If I were him I'd try very hard to make amends, having Achilles as your enemy is not good for your health, as he found out.

[@eval_is_evil]

because he feels threatened by him

[@eval_is_evil]

also...there was a power Agamemnon had : he could take the honour to be part of his war from Achilles. That would be like dying for him.

[@daniluchison]

+PC Friendly One word: EGO.

[@terminator324343]

+PC Friendly There's also another issue with Achilles. In a scene with Nestor, Agamemnon admits that he hates Achilles because Achilles stands against everything that Agamemnon built (which is a loose alliance of Achean states). Agamemnon sees himself as a conquering visionary and forger of empires, but Achilles to him is a volatile mercenary who fights for no flag and is loyal to no country.

[@daniluchison]

***** Correct BUT... the issue isn't with Achiles, the issue is with Agamemnon's PERCEPTION OF ACHILES. No human being should be loyal to a country for we are born with nothing and leave with nothing. If I were born in Siria and I see a dictator asking me to go and fight for him, I wouldn't do it. Am I a mercenary then for I have no loyalty to my country? Or do I have a country but I accept no Dictator/God in it?

[@veramelnik3430]

"before my time is done I will look down on your corpse and smile" most badass line in the entire movie

[@emperorreign6154]

Why did Agamemnon feel it was necessary or even wise, to deliberately antagonise the best warrior in his forces? Especially one that was renowned for being a loose cannon. If it was to keep him in line, surely he must've known that was never going to work, since he expressed concerns that Achilles couldn't be controlled before they left for Troy. And that was confirmed when Achilles and his men pulled out of the war immediately afterwards. So what exactly was the point?

[@benetesilva]

Pride. Achilles didnt respect him and that was a blow to Agamemnon's pride.

[@richfuckable]

no more why.. ask yourself ..why are you a nerd/ loser that haven't found a single person to fuck you

[@valhallaviking7054]

Well consider the movie condensed 10 whole years into a matter of weeks and it's pretty clear it wouldn't make sense exactly. Imagine ten years of a loose cannon. Plus there's a whole offended deity in the real Iliad that caused trouble between the two

[@angelopro341]

he was prideful, and fearful of insignificance

[@angelopro341]

***** what? what are you even saying? have you even read the Iliad ? or even watched the movie? Talk about being primitive, you're kicking and screaming for no actual reason

[@veramelnik1134]

"Before my time is done, I will look down on your corpse and smile" Aganemnon : .....pisses pants

[@ivancolonna7520]

Vera Melnik now that it has officially been confirmed that he should never ever be alone with the warrior Achilles.

[@blankblank5409]

His underwear one shit ton heavier

[@ThePaganSun]

Never happens in the actual Iliad. In fact, they make up and act very respectful of each other after they make up. Achilles even acknowledged Agamemnon's as one of the best warriors (Book 23) which he was (Book 7, Book 11).

[@XxTheJimsterxX]

Brian Cox absolutely nailed the pompous egotism & self-entitlement of Agememnon so fucking well.

[@mosmeister9445]

Kinda like an ancient Logan Roy

[@ThePaganSun]

No, he didn't! This is an inaccurate portrayal of Agamemnon. Agamemnon was stated to be one of the most handsome, strongest and badass warriors in the Iliad.

[@seekeroftruth101]

My favorite movie of this time piece.

[@elisjongoseni3225]

Kings didn't kneel to Achilles! Kings didn't paid homages to Achilles! Agamemnon has some great quotes in the movie!

[@FeniXMinerva]

2:45 The most bizarre yet memorable insult I’ve ever heard.

[@XxowendanxX]

"you sack of wine!!"...i think achilles wanted to call him a sack of something else but the right word didn't come to him because it hadn't been invented yet

[@Matt_0716]

Owen Daniels Actually, it was a pretty insulting thing to say. Back then, wine was typically stored in the empty stomach of a pig. He was saying that Agamemnon was nothing more than pig's guts.

[@SantomPh]

@G E T R E K T 905 yes, he is calling Agamemon a pork belly.

[@DuinHark]

This movie has so many quotable moments I sporadically say them to my brother. So funny!

[@michaelclark4062]

When you absolutely hate the character you know that the actor is doing his job well props 👏 to brian cox here

[@Ox5f3759df]

Brian Cox is a great actor, but he really seems to have a talent for playing slimeballs. He's great here and as Stryker in x-men

[@ayaxalvarado8942]

Wish they allowed the Gods to play a role in the movie. Athena actually tells Achilles to put his sword away

[@stavrospravis6254]

thats true

[@Dark_Voice]

Im glad the opposite happened.

[@keithw4920]

Actually one thing I liked about this movie is they weaved in the parts of the original story without having to admit that the gods existed. e.g. having Achilles actually be vulnerable at all parts of his body like a real human and just that he didn't pluck out that last arrow on his heel and people see it and the legend begins.

[@keithw4920]

@Joseph Manno i see it the other way. The Greeks in the movie believe in the gods and some associated events gel with the plausibility of the gods but nothing in the actual events proved that the gods existed.

[@RamaSivamani]

Well Briseis is a priestess so Athena could have been speaking to Achilles to put away his sword through her.

[@el_killorcure]

Even in the movie (nevermind the actual Illiad), Agamemnon is clearly seen not only in battle, but in the front lines themselves. He's fighting and risking his own life right alongside everyone else (remember the arrow that takes out his charriot driver and forces him to take the reins when charging after the Paris/Menelaus duel, he's clearly in range of the archers and thus in danger). Yet Achilles talks to him as if he were Priam (sitting out the battles in safety while having others do the fighting/bleeding/dying). Just saying, maybe even Pitt himself was aware of the sheer hipocrisy in Achilles' attitude and thus why he looks always so uncomfortable...

[@ThePaganSun]

EXACTLY!! 👏👏👏👏 This movie was so inaccurate in its portrayal of Agamemnon's battle prowess and looks who was said to have "eyes and head like Zeus, waist like Ares and chest like Poseidon" (Book 2). Enemy king Priam admired his strength and looks (Book 3), he was one of the warrior most wished for to fight Hector alongside Diomedes and Big Ajax (Book 7), he routs the Trojans to their walls without divine assistance or divine weapons (Book 11), and even Achilles later admits that Agamemnon "far surpasses us all both in strength and in throwing the spear" (Book 23).

[@el_killorcure]

@@ThePaganSun Guess thebmovie forgot that Agammemnon happened to be in charge not only because he ruled the richest andvmost populous city, but also because he was the meanest MF around as well? Well, not sure if Diomedes surpasses him, think he does, he is the only one to tangle ass with a god (Apollo) unassisted, and live! Or was it Aphrodite?

[@ThePaganSun]

@@el_killorcure No, Diomedes was indeed helped by the gods. It was Athena that gave him enhanced strength to fight gods and he wounded Aphrodite. It was Athena who technically wounded Ares by taking Diomedes's spear and aiming it at Ares' gut. And Apollo pushed Diomedes back three times. Agamemnon on the other hand, was the only major hero who never needed divine weapons or divine aid in battle and he routed the Trojan to the walls on his own strength. (Book 11). But yes, the movie was pretty inaccurate.

[@el_killorcure]

@@ThePaganSun Yeah, sounds about right. This thing needed a miniseries, like HBO Rome, to do it justice...

[@ThePaganSun]

@@el_killorcure Yes, very true!!

[@shwjeevhussain9183]

My my my King agememnon is silenced by a solider

[@ThePaganSun]

Yeah, because this movie is inaccurate and doesn't show how it really went down. Athena pulls Achilles' hair!

[@johnnyavalos9109]

Achilles is more than a soldier

[@flyingraven843]

0:37 Achilles in his mind, "how did you know?"

[@billaros1338]

Actually Achilles was a king as well, the king of Myrmidons. Agamemnon was the leader of the combined army. Like the king of kings. Buts he's right history remembers kings not soldiers..

[@richardsweat4865]

Billaros So your telling me you’ve heard more of Agamemnon than that of Achilles?

[@tomoglamuzina9045]

@@richardsweat4865 read his comment again... Achilles was the greatest warrior who ever lived, but he was a KING! King of Myrmidones.. Peleus was a nobleman, not some peasant

[@SantomPh]

@@tomoglamuzina9045 he was the son of Peleus the king of Phtia. the term Myrmydon doesn't refer to a kingdom; his army wore black armor and looked like ants from a distance. Myrmax is the Greek term for ants.

[@hellenick8867]

@@SantomPh great that someone knows of historical facts

[@rafaelfarias4359]

@@SantomPh the Myrmidon name comes from mythology - when king Aeacus of Egina lost all his men in plague sent by Hera, and his island became defenseless, he called upon Zeus. Zeus took a nest of ants and shaped them into unquestionably loyal men wearing black armor. To this day a Myrmidon refers to soldiers who obeys any orders without question.

[@seanjoseph1700]

" Before my time is done i will look down at your corpse and smile "

[@ThePaganSun]

He never does in the actual Iliad.

[@boldcounsel9406]

No argument with you brothers. But if you don't release her you'll never see home again. Decide. I love that line.

[@Mario-us7ds]

2:47 lol he went quiet. I think he realized he was one remark away from being killed

[@russellwestbrookyellingatw9381]

I don't think he was scared, more so stunned that he is talking like that to him.

[@michaelshell8897]

History proved Agamemnon wrong. Every schooler knows who Achilles is, and Agamemnon remained just a character of The Iliad.

[@atepetas]

Hep kederle geçti gençlik yıllarım Dertlerim bitmeden hayatım soldu Sevgiyi tatmadan gönlüm kurudu Gülmeyi unuttum ölsem ne olur Dostum dediklerim aldattı durdu Gözüme gülenler şeytanca vurdu Attığım her adım kahırla doldu Nasıl yaşayayım söyleyin bana Nasıl geçti ömrüm sormayın bana Dert kederden başka ne yaşadım ki İsyankar sanmayın yüce Allah’ a (cc) İsyanım hayata sahte dostlara Hayaller kurardım kurmaz olsaydım Hepsi kabus oldu gözlerim doldu Yaşamaktan bıktım hayatım soldu Umudum kalmadı tükendim, bittim İnsanlar değişmiş şeytanlar kaçmış Duygular satılmış aşklar yalanmış Dost sandıklarımız bir sahtekarmış Ah ömrüm ah ömrüm ne çileliymiş Yanındayım diyen kefenim oldu Sevgiden bahseden tabuta koydu Elimden tutanlar mezara koydu Zifir karanlıklar toprağım oldu Ahiretim yandı ölsem ayrı dert Yaşasam ayrı dert ben ne yapsam Dünya dedikleri ızdıraplı yer Ağlamakla geçti en güzel yıllar

[@Ghidorah96]

In history/ Homer's poem, Achilles is a warlord or provincial king in his own right, so the simple soldier vs king dichotomy is cool, but not as easily separated.

[@ThePaganSun]

And Agamemnon is equally an amazing warrior (Book 11 of the Iliad) too unlike this inaccurate movie, not just a king.

[@rochstan123]

Look at the fear on Agamemnon's face at the end, he's thinking "Shit I pushed him too far.)

[@thalessilva1]

ali bumaye,ali bumaye

[@ThePaganSun]

Agamemnon in the Iliad isn't afraid of Achilles.

[@babysealsareyummy]

Logan Roy the early years

[@universum9574]

The girl he has a crush on rejects him, and the guy who hates him takes her as a slave... Imagine that.

[@veramelnik3882]

This scene pretty much completely sums up Achilles loyalty and beliefs of kings

[@histguy101]

Achilles was a king

[@sererick7031]

0:15 The arrogancy of the king is magnificent 😂

[@Bokaj01]

2:03 my exact stance when defending my toilet paper in the mall

[@ggut82]

You sack of wine!! Best put down ever !!

[@TheRealCabe]

In his defense, the kings name was damn hard to remember.

[@Laz4r96]

Such a great character

[@rickyfitz9036]

The last of the good ancient war movies before 300 really glamorized the action and over abused the cgi for this genre

[@paul_rymar]

"Be careful 'king of kings' first you need the victory" - the line was golden 1:20

[@tastygravy6880]

No need to one up each other, they both are remembered now after so many years, for different reasons of course.

[@user-tn8rl1lc8l]

Agamemnon is such a perfect troll, he made Achilles butthurt like a savage

[@woIfson]

And he almost paid the price while shitting his pants at the end lmao now that's savage

[@elliotchinneryhinks8554]

This is one of the most underrated movies of all time FACT

[@bridgetwadane4392]

I love Achilles decisiveness and immediate move into attack posture!

[@michi6486]

Ironically achilles became immortalized as an ultimate weakpoint, even more so than for his heroics

[@livinthefilm]

Logan Roy was a G in previous life.

[@jamesmansbridge5330]

Succession in Medieval Time

[@zjust23]

What a shameful king,this movie never gets old.

[@Honey0158]

Moses Eliakim Reminds me of how some people let power go to their head.

[@holypaladin4657]

Moses Eliakim they butchered Agamemnon in this movie. Agamemnon is portrayed as a coward in this movie, but in book 11 of the Iliad he went on a rampage during a battle, slaughtering multiple Trojan men of note, including 2 sons of Priam. "So under Agamemnon fell the heads of flying Trojans". "His victorious hands reek'd, red with gore". He only stopped because he received a bad wound in his arm (of course he beheaded the man who wounded him, and left his body on the field on top of the man's brother's corpse) and the pain was likened to a woman giving birth. Hector fled the battle in fear of his life in the face of Agamemnon, only returning after Agamemnon left. To Hector's credit, he did manage to turn the battle around quite well and kill multiple Greek men of note, even after Agamemnon single-handedly routed the Trojan army.

[@ThePaganSun]

@@holypaladin4657 Thank you!! Exactly!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏 And even Achilles later admits it (after he and Agamemnon make up) that Agamemnon "far surpasses us all as the best in strength and in throwing the spear" (Book 23). And the one who wounded him in Book 11 only did so because he came up from behind ("unseen") by Agamemnon as Agamemnon was looting a body. And Agamemnon is the only major warrior to fight without ever needing divine assistance or divine weapons. Even Hector had to be kept away from Agamemnon by Zeus!

[@sypen1]

I love this movie

[@doubledutch5708]

"No arguments with you brothers but if you dont release her youll never see home again" Best line ever.

[@bumpyface228]

"Tonight I'll have her give me a bath." LOL

[@karlsmith6690]

+bumpyface228 "Tonight she'll be watching Netflix with me!"

[@stevengonzalez2318]

That was a way back then of saying SEX

[@alexman378]

Steven Gonzalez Nope. The “who knows” bit was the way.

[@imperialguardsman5929]

In a more intellectual way of saying that, " Tonight.....WE SMASH!!"

[@jerrythebaum4388]

YOU SACK OF WINE!!!!

[@nicholasotis633]

2:37 Did anyone else think of: "tonight... I'll be eating" 😂😂 (Uber Eats)

[@marlonquintana3466]

Achilles: "You sack of wine!" Agamemnon: 🤔

[@johnnyavalos9109]

More like: 😲🐖 💔

[@Truck_Kun_Driver]

Achilles would have cut through all of them like carving a cake.

[@cant8160]

He is Achilles not barristan selmy

[@ThePaganSun]

Not Agamemnon who in the actual epic was an equally powerful warrior (Book 11).

[@vk3567]

@@ThePaganSun He wasn't lol. According to Homer Achilles was way better than any other soldier who faught in the war.

[@ThePaganSun]

@@vk3567 Yes, Agamemnon was almost on Achilles' level. Well, Homer contradicted himself several times. He claims Big Ajax was 2nd only to Achilles but yet Big Ajax (who was more of a defensive fighter) never had an aristeia unlike Diomedes, Agamemnon, Patroclus and Achilles. And in the funeral games for Patroclus, Big Ajax never won first prize in anything even with Achilles sitting out. He ties with Odysseus in wrestling, ties with Diomedes in armed fight and loses to someone else in shot putting. Agamemnon though is the only major warrior to rout the Trojans to their very walls without divine weapons or divine help.

[@vk3567]

@@ThePaganSun Homer states clearly that Achilles had no competition in the trojan war. It is true that Agamemnon was a good fighter like all kings back then and fought in the front lines but he definitelly wasn't near the level of Achilles,Hector,Diomedes and Ajax.

[@chrisd2051]

Reasons not to watch Troy: If you want an accurate movie to the source material. Reasons to watch Troy: If you want a bad ass movie that's probably accurate for the most part to the fighting styles of the day.

[@panosa2502]

No it is not accurate at all to the fighting styles of the day. And beyond styles it also presents also the inverse case of the story, i.e. showing the Achaeans as disorganized and indisciplined and the Trojans as well-organized and disciplined when it was the exact opposite.

[@Korakaris]

Jumping around in kung-fu style is not how the Greeks fought.

[@undrielgrenger53]

Except only One greek fought like that: Achillies, and that was because he was an unique warrior. All the common soldiers and others (even Hector) fought ordinary.

[@panosa2502]

Well in the original poem, Achilles was the most skilled warrior of them all but he was by no means far above others. You had Ajax, Diomedes, Menelaos and even Agamemnon himself proved at times a valid warrior fighting in the frontline killing quite a number of Trojan princes, contrary to his depictions in the film. Diomedes was really a close, very close match to Achilles even if he did not benefit from godly protection (in fact many Gods quite disliked him as he was attacking all pro-Trojan Gods, LOL! Crazy guy!). In reality Homer clearly underlines that the most complete hero was Diomedes, not Achilles since he was nearly as skilled, the same as brave, but also more intelligent, almost as much as Odysseus, more politically adept, a good orator and a fine leader in spite of his relatively young age. Diomedes and Odysseus made a lethal combination and they proved their bronze even in night-time special operations.

[@TheInsensitiveAsshole]

+Panos A Diomedes was the youngest of the Achaean warriors, yes?

[@CoolGuyMcGruff]

Wait...those two soldiers names are Nefarious and Demon!? That's badass!

[@toufegariouogios]

the second one is Kimon...this name we still use it in Greece even nowadays...

[@AgarthaFan]

Achilles crossed the line when he called his a King a sack of wine. You could see the look on his face

[@stripedrajang3571]

Well he don't respect the king. You can go as far and say that Achilles does not consider Agememnon his king either.