True Sadness: MiG-19S (War Thunder)

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@deadlycuber4974
@deadlycuber4974 3 жыл бұрын
Me grinding German tech tree. “Eyyy, finally some aams...” looks at modifications.
@JamisonMK3
@JamisonMK3 3 жыл бұрын
I just experienced this! Lol. Unlocked the 19s yesterday and expected missiles since I’d seen mig 19s fire missiles at me before lol
@STRYKER_b14
@STRYKER_b14 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the sad truth of german tree. No thermals at 9.3 brs for tanks that would benefit a lot from it and no missiles until like top tier while other nations are rocking missiles from 8.7
@kakagakakerger4165
@kakagakakerger4165 3 жыл бұрын
@@STRYKER_b14 and the only missile germany get at 8.7 is a *expensive premium*
@Fjordzera
@Fjordzera 3 жыл бұрын
@@kakagakakerger4165 aim 9B missiles are garbage anyway
@kakagakakerger4165
@kakagakakerger4165 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fjordzera meh, better than no missiles
@Eretaloma
@Eretaloma 4 жыл бұрын
YES HE MADE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS! HE CAN SHARE MY DEPRESSION WITH ALL OF YOU!
@petethebossul
@petethebossul 4 жыл бұрын
i share your depression too brother.
@Shadowhunterbg
@Shadowhunterbg 4 жыл бұрын
Just go away from top tier. MIG21 doesn't make it better. It gets worse.
@rubenbotter
@rubenbotter 4 жыл бұрын
Yas brother!
@mohamedelmalih6298
@mohamedelmalih6298 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shadowhunterbg the MIG21MF is really underwelming no RWR no BVM's
@GomiTrashCanT
@GomiTrashCanT 4 жыл бұрын
+1
@gabrielabreu5200
@gabrielabreu5200 4 жыл бұрын
I give this plane one thing, is one of the best helicopter Hunter in ground RB i love those 30mm best cannons in game(my op)
@mohammedsabbagh3041
@mohammedsabbagh3041 4 жыл бұрын
Ikr going behind the enemy and brrrr
@0Ploxx
@0Ploxx 4 жыл бұрын
Best cannons Hispanos with the belt that has a practice shot, silly communist
@julianmorgan8411
@julianmorgan8411 4 жыл бұрын
@@0Ploxx fool, the swedish 13.2 are best mg in the game
@deadliftalot
@deadliftalot 4 жыл бұрын
@@julianmorgan8411 NO SHVAKS ARE
@tomasrichtr9554
@tomasrichtr9554 4 жыл бұрын
@@julianmorgan8411 akans right? On J21 or J22 right?
@ryandittmore348
@ryandittmore348 4 жыл бұрын
Real sadness is F-86A-5 against Lightning F.6
@threadworm437
@threadworm437 4 жыл бұрын
Cl13 mk5 also, it used to be really good until everything at its tier got missles, now its just poopy
@henri6311
@henri6311 4 жыл бұрын
@@threadworm437 try to be in a mig15
@haoyangpan7153
@haoyangpan7153 4 жыл бұрын
Good thing is A5 doesn’t have to face against Lightning every matches, mig19 is constantly suffering and it’s forced to play against all 10.3 every games
@NoName-lx5fo
@NoName-lx5fo 4 жыл бұрын
Dude the secound Me163 is at the same BR (8.7) and this is an fucking WW2 vehicel with 6 min fuel. That is ridicules.
@kommandantkillcode
@kommandantkillcode 4 жыл бұрын
At least the Lightning is primarily being uptiered into 10.3 now.
@BombOnBoardProductions
@BombOnBoardProductions 4 жыл бұрын
The g.91YS situation is basically this, but worse
@TT-cf8dz
@TT-cf8dz 4 жыл бұрын
LIGHTNING SUFFERS
@depal_54
@depal_54 4 жыл бұрын
it’s funny cause the only top tier planes i have are the 19s and the g91ys :(
@accursedsupra
@accursedsupra 4 жыл бұрын
@@depal_54 That is very tough, my highest tier plane is the f104a, it’s not great but at least it can climb to 12k and ultra boom n zoom.
@revduesshin
@revduesshin 3 жыл бұрын
@@accursedsupra I think I am only the coincidentally the only lucky one here. I went for the su-7 xd and seeing how it has a shrike spawn now makes this thing kind of funny.
@KekusMagnus
@KekusMagnus 4 жыл бұрын
it has the performance, especially at high altitude it stomps everything in a dogfight unfortunately there' no dogfights going on at top tier, and its low top speed prevents it from catching anyone
@samuellatta6774
@samuellatta6774 3 жыл бұрын
AIM-9/MAGIC
@ryandittmore348
@ryandittmore348 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if Gaijin actually listened to feedback
@masol3726
@masol3726 4 жыл бұрын
They do. It’s just a lot of miscommunication
@sethjansson5652
@sethjansson5652 4 жыл бұрын
@@masol3726 And often neglect. Just look at bombers and damage mechanics...
@LupusAries
@LupusAries 4 жыл бұрын
@@masol3726 Frankly........BS! They haven't listened to feedback for seven years and when there was still good faith they shot everyone down that offered good faith criticism backed up by sources. With the infamous "sekrit documents" There are certain issues with the Flight models (FM), which means that if you compare them to the HSFX 7 Flightmodels in Il-2 1946, all WW2 aircraft I have looked at (Bf 109 F-4, F-4/Trop, F-2, G-2/trop, P-47 D-22, P-47 D-25, P-38-J-15 and likely the P-38 G-1) they all underperform.......well in the case of the 109 F-4 and G-2 except in one metric, speed in level flight..... In case of the F-4 it's between 0.36 and around 5 m/s, and in the case of the P-38 it's about 12 m/s in climbrate that is missing. One thing that tipped me off towards that is that the 109 F-4 and G-2/trop have the same turn time which is weird, given that the F-4 was significantly lighter leading to a worse power loading and wing loading. So the F-4 should turn slightly better than the G-2. Also the Spitfire does turn worse than it's HSFX 7 IL-2 1946 counterpart. Why the HSFX 7? Well in HSFX 6 they got an EADS Aircraft Engineer, yeah a guy who designs aircraft to rework all the flight models in IL-2 1946 to be more realistic. Now this did expose some of the problems with the old Forgotten Battles Engine, namely that it doesn't model CG (Center of Gravity) shift due to fuel burn, but sets one at the start of the mission. This could lead to some very bad problems with certain aircraft like the late model Mustangs, if you started the mission on full internal fuel you could get a CG that was very aft and therefore not really stable. With negative effects on Handling and combat capability. Very likely that War Thunder has the same issue. We also know that the 109 in IL-2 1946 has always had it's slats modelled in the FM, something which is unclear of the WT one. Admittedly the 109 in IL-2 Cliffs of Dover/Desert Wings Tobruk and IL-2 Great Battles flies even better than the 1946 one, especially around the pattern and in low speed handling. Practically all aircraft handle better there. Edit: I'm going to research the flight models further with the availlable real life documents to check further, because well there is always the possibility that the data from another sim might be wrong. Now some of the issues Mentioned in this video here could be easily fixed, by solutions we proposed SEVEN years ago............the coordination issue for example, by integrating a teamwide voip, so that pilots could coordinate. Now this would need certain features, like a microphone test while background audio is played to check for a recording that is understandable, but does not transmit all the sounds a player or his system makes, because nothing is as annoying as a player with a constantly open mike. Even more so if that causes feedback noise. Anyone who's ever played an air combat game or sim can tell you how necessary realtime voice communications are for the sucess of a team, there just is no replacement for it. In IL-2 we could handle it easily with TS due to the server structure (you joined a server and a team of players that organized prior to the mission), but since War Thunder assigns you randomly to teams of random people, we need to have that ingame. And DCS has the tech built in now, so it's not exactly the dark arts. Mind you we proposed exactly that in 2013...... Hell when some of the sim players gave feedback to improve it, so that they could recommend it to their friends in combat flight sims and more people would play, they were told that their community was too small anyway to matter tand that they should instead focus on getting more players in to make it worth the devs while to fix those issues. Yeah it's not the devs job to make a game that is worthwile to play and recommend to your friends, it's the player's job to make it worth the dev's while to fix things..... And that's not just back then, look at today, how often have you heard Spit flyer and various other youtuber's critique issues in WT and how often have you seen them fixed?
@RichardVSmall
@RichardVSmall 4 жыл бұрын
@@LupusAries Man, I feel you... I was playing Simulator Battles since 2012 back when it was still called FRB (Full-Real Battles) and used to post on the forums all the time. The mistreatment of the sim community was just shocking, the worst I have ever seen from a game dev ever. We were ignored and sidelined and marginalized until eventually they just got rid of SB altogether. I know there's still EC but it's not the same. You're 100% right about everything, especially VOIP. Can't count the number of times I've been watching a bandit dive on a friendly and have to awkwardly fumble with the keyboard typing '666666' as he gets shot down. You should put all these issues together into a forum post. 99% sure it won't have any effect whatsoever and will just be ignored like everything else, but I'd like for these issued to be recorded officially, rather than just in a KZbin comment. o7
@lionfootball5746
@lionfootball5746 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly seeing the mig 19 really reminds me of trying to fly my j35 stock. All I have for the next foreseeable 100k rp are guns. In this missile meta I'd be stupid to rush for anything other than missiles, but in doing so I'm neglecting the engine upgrades. It just feels like I'm stuck fighting an opponent with every advantage. Don't get me wrong, the j35 is amazing in it's first turn fight, but after one or two hard turns it's out of energy and with a stock engine I rarely survive long enough to get it back.
@spray916
@spray916 4 жыл бұрын
Going to 9.7. Can't wait to play it.
@silverfortytwo9506
@silverfortytwo9506 4 жыл бұрын
3:00 - 3:40 is a great demonstrator of the MiG-19's performance. The plane's flight characteristics are phenomenal, in terms of acceleration, climb, energy retention and manoeuverability. I absolutely love it, and imo its the most satisfying plane at top tier. However, it struggles in terms of top speed and because of its lack of good missiles. If a later Nanchang Q-5 like the Q-5C or D were added, that could actually be really good if it got PL-5 or PL-7 missiles.
@azza2481
@azza2481 4 жыл бұрын
Hey spit you should do a vid on the BI, would be pretty cool
@gulipzee1810
@gulipzee1810 4 жыл бұрын
The tank?
@simbadooo9055
@simbadooo9055 3 жыл бұрын
@Infinity No! The experimental Russian Rocket Interceptor.
@skyz6708
@skyz6708 4 жыл бұрын
This is my first true top tier jet and boy has it been underwhelming and depressing to play.
@JV_141
@JV_141 4 жыл бұрын
It gets better man
@brotherleandroz9305
@brotherleandroz9305 3 жыл бұрын
Just got it and I don't hate by I don't love it I will simply have to learn how to use it
@skyz6708
@skyz6708 3 жыл бұрын
@@brotherleandroz9305 I think it's at a 9.7 now so it should be a little bit better to play
@kristenator333
@kristenator333 4 жыл бұрын
just recently unlocked it. I was crying more than I was happy
@KhataarFelMataar
@KhataarFelMataar 4 жыл бұрын
I unlocked the mig19pt today. I am trying to give it a chance whilst upgrading it. But the mig17as at 9.0 was a much better experience.
@kommandantkillcode
@kommandantkillcode 4 жыл бұрын
@@KhataarFelMataar Starting out, that is definitely the case, but the more upgrades you get for the MiG-19, the better and better it becomes especially at energy and turnfighting at top tier.
@MrLazzki14
@MrLazzki14 4 жыл бұрын
Whooptie showed a trick a little while ago where you take rockets with the MiG-19 and shoot them as flares.
@Kay_213_
@Kay_213_ 4 жыл бұрын
The mig-19 might actually get downtiered now :)
@FunkyEspelhoCat
@FunkyEspelhoCat 4 жыл бұрын
Please no
@sugoisukhoi
@sugoisukhoi 4 жыл бұрын
@Racist Yoda Gaming Inc i think there's like a br bracket now so 9.7 will face 10.0 or something like that
@larynxman6957
@larynxman6957 4 жыл бұрын
@@sugoisukhoi nah, they just removed the 9.7 hardcap so 9.7s will see top tier a lot of the time now
@f104g2
@f104g2 4 жыл бұрын
so we met again guys :)))))))
@Kay_213_
@Kay_213_ 4 жыл бұрын
God I wish I wasn’t right
@infectiousproduction812
@infectiousproduction812 2 жыл бұрын
1 years later it is STILL the same
@YUKKO0110
@YUKKO0110 4 жыл бұрын
Spit flyer: you can’t control engagements Also spit flyer: dominating the game
@sergarlantyrell7847
@sergarlantyrell7847 4 жыл бұрын
The Mig-19 is such a beautiful plane, it's a shame it's pretty much dead in the current meta. I can't believe there is anyone who argues against decompression... Presumably, they just only play the "in meta" vehicles and are oblivious to everyone else's frustration.
@Combatwombat-sn7ng
@Combatwombat-sn7ng 4 жыл бұрын
I like your idea of trying out new matchmaking systems in events. It could be a really good plan, because if it doesnt work there are no consequences but if it does then it can be implemented.
@georgehuser4711
@georgehuser4711 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Mig 19. But that's mainly because I drive by one every day I go to work. Amazing looking plane
@boborenebobo
@boborenebobo 4 жыл бұрын
My 19 is dusty in hangar for a long time
@axp8997
@axp8997 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about how the f100 is in this meta
@JollyRogers102
@JollyRogers102 4 жыл бұрын
It's the first 10.0 and supersonic I have unlocked and I find it actually is quite decent
@kamptenb9914
@kamptenb9914 4 жыл бұрын
R4pt0r64 yea, I had it about 4 months ago, same meta pretty much, and I liked it a lot tbh. People always said it was bad, but I thought it was quite decent.
@connorraab
@connorraab 4 жыл бұрын
@@kamptenb9914 before decompression and with the 9.7 cap it was the worst 10.0 jet
@aureliencostabeber8532
@aureliencostabeber8532 4 жыл бұрын
still waiting for smaller match , still waiting for an enduring confrontation where every types of aircraft could have an utility instead of just fighters vs fighters in a deathmatch
@GielL96
@GielL96 4 жыл бұрын
play simulator?
@korybabinski4159
@korybabinski4159 3 жыл бұрын
@@GielL96 sim is a cancer fuckfest. You can only lose thousands of lions per game with the horrible rewards for how hard it is for the average player
@marcinnowak4299
@marcinnowak4299 4 жыл бұрын
Planes like MiG-19, MiG-21 F-13, Lightning, Lansen, G.91YS etc. should have their own bracket, where they don't meet all these 30G missiles, BVR and stuff. Early "shitsonics" could fight each other without having to face F-104, Phantom etc.
@esjonne5190
@esjonne5190 4 жыл бұрын
But the thing is that even the 30g missiles are pretty easy to dodge. I literally get avg 3 kills per match with this thing.
@crlourenco88
@crlourenco88 2 жыл бұрын
Benn flying it to grind the mig 21 in german tree. Fighting with no flares, no missels and only skill. GAME IS HARD
@greybuckleton
@greybuckleton 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah events for certain time periods would be really fun. Settle the "What was best" questions.
@jagernut5204
@jagernut5204 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who flies the MiG-19 in DCS, the P variant particularly I can confirm a lot of this is true. Non significant turning capabilities, a2a missiles only rear aspect and pretty short range, non significant radar and a grand total of only 146 bullets. But as hard as it is to fly it, Letts talk about the good stuff. The cannons, radar assisted gun sight, know I said it wasn't that significant, but it's still ok, really good handling, acceleration, an rwr actually, only reading the back hemisphere but still useful for detecting radar locks,tho again kinda pointless since no fox3s. Still pretty fun, overall my fav.
@nibbaskittle5994
@nibbaskittle5994 4 жыл бұрын
His videos are so relaxing i love how he explains what he is doing and what effect its going to have on him and the enemy
@specfour5
@specfour5 4 жыл бұрын
Hey spit. How about a quick and dirty air rb guide through the tiers? I think it would be great to do a runthrough on things like generally USA planes do well with boom n zoom, heavy planes generally have good energy retention, japanese planes are really turny. And do kinda of a x counters y which counters z. I know iv watched a lot of your videos and its made me a significantly better pilot in general, but it would be really nice to have a modern guide since you really are good at explaining these things.
@RichardVSmall
@RichardVSmall 4 жыл бұрын
Why aren't they doing those historical events they used to do? I remember there was stuff like the Battle of Britain with Spits, Hurricanes, 109Es etc. Also Korea with Sabres going up against MiG15s. There was one for RB and one for SB - I mainly played Simulator Battles back then (before they got rid of it) and I really loved dueling with MiGs over Korea from the cockpit view, the immersion was intense! They should do the same thing nowadays - imagine a Vietnam War event with Phantoms vs MiGs etc in Sim mode, having to rely on your radar to locate targets in cockpit view, with BVR engagements and so on. That would be so awesome!!
@polaskatyu9368
@polaskatyu9368 4 жыл бұрын
> sadness > Not many things positive to say about it > falling behind everyone else > *NOT USING 7 MIN OF FUEL SO YOU CAN DUNK ON EVERYONE* Yes I can see why you say it doesnt have the performance to compete
@cmdrpanorpa8631
@cmdrpanorpa8631 4 жыл бұрын
Gaijin on seeing people play 10.0 and be sad. "Players enjoy sadness" Air battle sadness now brought to you all the way down to 9.0 getting 1.0 uptiers against things they can't fight at all
@Kay_213_
@Kay_213_ 4 жыл бұрын
Only like, 10 matches in and this plane is proving to be the perfect support fighter You wait till people get slow to get kills, you bait the absolute fuck out of people as you spiral up, and once your team crumbles you’re doomed I might enjoy it if I don’t judge the experience on my amount of kills
@blooeagle5118
@blooeagle5118 4 жыл бұрын
So don't try to control engagements, pick off the ones that are preoccupied with your team by staying fast, almost like a sabre (in a weird kind of way)
@clumsy7333
@clumsy7333 4 жыл бұрын
i love the war thunder youtube community cuz its wholesome AF
@sethjansson5652
@sethjansson5652 4 жыл бұрын
I like this. Truly the only way to solve the que time issue effectively is by shortening the player count per match. 7v7 is good but we should also get a 5v5 or lower if necessary. It will especially make jet gameplay more engaging and less of a blur. 7.0 to 7.7 jets is greatly effected by player count since not many people play axis at those br's. Once again another great discussion Spit!
@dreadnought014
@dreadnought014 4 жыл бұрын
I agree make a BR for all the 10.0s and the more powerful 9.7. I love the way 9.7 was isolated from top tier. It meant that I didn’t have to get dunked on by the top tiers in my CL-13B. I’ve been thinking since then, that the 10.0s need their own isolated BR. I love my Hunter F.6, US F-100D and MIG-19S. I would love for them to be competitive again.
@Shadowhunterbg
@Shadowhunterbg 4 жыл бұрын
6:18 plays a plane that has no missiles so Gaijin puts a sound barrier cloud that covers his whole crosshair to make it even more frustrating. God damn inept company i swear! Never again top tier, never again!
@nebuias2008
@nebuias2008 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a vid on how the J32B and G91 YS are doing at 10.0.
@Gurowho
@Gurowho 4 жыл бұрын
I stop researching this plane because it has no missile so I am going for the saber dog
@halolime117
@halolime117 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t mind this thing getting a higher tier and giving it missiles
@gulipzee1810
@gulipzee1810 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been simping over the mig 19 recently thanks for the vid
@invader2968
@invader2968 4 жыл бұрын
First top tier jet I got and this just put me off☹️
@joshuakolnes9504
@joshuakolnes9504 3 жыл бұрын
You got to make another video in this plane if you fly like an over aggressive maniac it works great with its acceleration and energy retention is great, the plane can take on many opponents at once you just have to be in the sweet spot where they are too closer for a missile and just to far for guns a climbing two circle fight with two or even three can go your way if you keep them between 1 and 1.5 km
@punkerlazar4496
@punkerlazar4496 2 жыл бұрын
No missile, no flares, and against Mach 2, missile capable enemies
@Ryzawa
@Ryzawa 4 жыл бұрын
At first I wondered why you would ever want less people in these kinds of matches, then I played the g.91r stock again and remember why, because no matter what I did, I ended up with 4 sabers on my tail...
@SavvDaDon
@SavvDaDon 4 жыл бұрын
Sabres are the most tedious the fly against in the G.91r. They are faster than you, maneuver better than you, and retain energy better than you. You just have to force an overshoot or stay out of it’s guns to get out alive, unless its an F2 Sabre or F86k in which its curtains of you get in front of their guns.
@Ryzawa
@Ryzawa 4 жыл бұрын
@@SavvDaDon Yeah I've spaded the italian g.91s already and even if I force an overshoot, there's still 3 other sabers on my tail just waiting to pick me off, it's not like I'm rushing into battle, they just chase me down.
@SavvDaDon
@SavvDaDon 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ryzawa See, the only G.91 that could deal with multiple opponents or fast ones is the G.91 Ys but gaijin decided to send it (and J32B) to 10.0 to get raped by Phantoms, Mig 21s, Mirage, etc.
@Ryzawa
@Ryzawa 4 жыл бұрын
@@SavvDaDon Yeah I almost spaded the darn YS then it got bumped and I haven't touched it since...
@mase8832
@mase8832 4 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a mode for realistic for 1v1 o 3v3 something like that. Like having a 1v1 to the best of 3 or 5 on realistic will be pretty nice imo. Or other different modes not the same mode over and over
@michealschumacher5198
@michealschumacher5198 4 жыл бұрын
Petition to add the avro arrow/ avro cf 105 to war thunder under the british tech tree Please gajin actually do it i would be so damn happy
@hobbobandits1986
@hobbobandits1986 4 жыл бұрын
That would be sick. It would be a mix of a draken and a mig 21
@michealschumacher5198
@michealschumacher5198 4 жыл бұрын
I just want it because im in the land of moose and maple
@benjaminrafales-nordoff6372
@benjaminrafales-nordoff6372 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN, spit yes a dedicated 10.,0 meta, no downtier no uptier yes yes yes atleast someone else is thinking it, we have all these incredible gun meta planes being ruined by top tier missile thunder. Love you.
@Qomicbook
@Qomicbook 4 жыл бұрын
i mean i get a good amount of kills on every other plane fgr phantom mig 21 etc just use rockets as flares and the guns are like shotguns
@hazmasterocks
@hazmasterocks 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna disagree with you but the mig 19S and PT do have some upsides. None of the other top BR aircraft can climb like it or at least that's what I've noticed, and I know you don't think altitude has much meaning in the top BR meta but it does at least in the 19's case, SARHs and missiles in general have a much smaller engagement range if they have to climb to their targets altitude, and most of the time people arent expecting someone to dive down from 30000 feet as most people seem to stop climbing at 20000, the 19 to me now a days is very much a BnZ aircraft but it also out turns basically everything despite not having the AoA that the 21s get, and your TWR makes you a very good fighter in vertical engagements assuming your are able to stay close enough that they aren't able to get a missile off on you. I agree the top speed is lack luster compared to the aircraft you are facing and when it's you versus someone who isn't going to get baited into turn fighting with you and they keep their speed up yeah your pretty much fucked unless you get a lucky head on but I still think it's a very competitive aircraft. It's an aircraft where you have to be super carful in your engagements, my favorite thing to do is to wait for the fight to start let everyone get pumped up and tunnel visioned on one another then swoop in well they are low, slow, and stupid.
@spoonicustraumaticusthethi6800
@spoonicustraumaticusthethi6800 4 жыл бұрын
I was so hyped to get my very first supersonic plane, then it turns out the mig19s blows ass now :(
@AstroFox69
@AstroFox69 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know what’s even sadder than the mig19s the fact you haven’t done a video on the re.2000 series 1
@BF-109
@BF-109 4 жыл бұрын
can we talk about that 9.7 jets fight against 10.3 and 10.7?
@Longshanks4268
@Longshanks4268 4 жыл бұрын
this was my first super sonic and it killed jets for like 3 weeks for me
@Skeptchy
@Skeptchy 4 жыл бұрын
Btw the hunter premium gets up teired now
@bmbpdk
@bmbpdk 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Sir. Thank you for these videos. Im more of a DCS kind of a guy, but i still enjoy watching your videos, hearing you opinions and knowledge. Its funny how many "Put the thing on the thing and push the trigger and stuff goes boom" kind of aviation related games/sims there are, there is a genre for every person to enjoy the amount of "shoot ´em up" and "Spent 4 hours on how to start the damn thing" they want.
@nickbeers202
@nickbeers202 2 жыл бұрын
fly the mig 19 like the mig 15bis by stalking and waiting for the perfect time and you will be unbeatable
@Zavodd
@Zavodd 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 kd in this thing. I love it, and I think it performs amazing
@ScaleMilitaryModels
@ScaleMilitaryModels 4 жыл бұрын
Today I was in ground rb, as an aa, and I was shooting a plane who was in a dogfight and I accidentally killed a friendly, But, when I ripped his wing off, he got a shot off at the enemy plane and was able to fire a rocket at a ground target! Maybe I helped?!
@raffifasaro
@raffifasaro 2 жыл бұрын
The worst thing is the 13k SLs you lose every game :I
@david4jet553
@david4jet553 4 жыл бұрын
If you suffer in the mig 19 you're just bad. The mig 19 is a perfect example of why you don't need good missiles, or any missiles at all to dominate the top tier battlefield. Instead of complaining about the game, dedicate yourself to becoming better and earn your fun. (ik ur not bad spit just my take on the situation k luv u)
@anthonyw3433
@anthonyw3433 4 жыл бұрын
Hey spit, try playing air rb with a controller.
@ErikvsLenny
@ErikvsLenny 4 жыл бұрын
The Plane itself is fine. Problem is the Air to air rockets vs no rockets matchup .
@SotGravarg
@SotGravarg 3 жыл бұрын
Ey I like that one sometimes I get 2 kills 😝 mostly just 1 but that's better than none.
@larrysteve7272
@larrysteve7272 4 жыл бұрын
You should try the F-104s with sparrows its better because you fire missiles at the enemy in there climb path
@jdmills123456789
@jdmills123456789 4 жыл бұрын
The MiG-19 is amazing, almost broken. Idk what you are smoking.
@tomasrichtr9554
@tomasrichtr9554 4 жыл бұрын
From king of the sky to the worst plane on 10
@Qomicbook
@Qomicbook 4 жыл бұрын
u should def try mig 19s w rockets as flares it works dude
@Et-chan
@Et-chan 4 жыл бұрын
I really don’t struggle with this plane at all in its current state... it’s kind of OP honestly
@natedogggaming1607
@natedogggaming1607 4 жыл бұрын
3 months later: Ironic.
@yakinthebox
@yakinthebox 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about the F100D now when its 10.0
@keenan_wt
@keenan_wt 4 жыл бұрын
So it was a good idea to go for the f104 tree?
@JV_141
@JV_141 4 жыл бұрын
No
@keenan_wt
@keenan_wt 4 жыл бұрын
@@JV_141 a bit late now lol but I got both trees nows
@destroyer6869
@destroyer6869 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful br 10.00 vs 10.0 mig19s f104s f6 lighting hunter f6 j32 t2 jagur but magics would have to be replaced
@Ghareeban
@Ghareeban 3 жыл бұрын
I am currently trying to spade it... F5s, Av8s and Harriers how could this jet compete??
@red5zerogaming622
@red5zerogaming622 4 жыл бұрын
I want more realistic 2v2 4v4 6v6 dogfights for top tier as a gamemode
@thegamingcat3202
@thegamingcat3202 4 жыл бұрын
5:15 "because its September", i am pretty sure its october the third
@leomarsden7951
@leomarsden7951 4 жыл бұрын
might've been recorded in september
@thegamingcat3202
@thegamingcat3202 4 жыл бұрын
@@leomarsden7951 yeah, but why wait more than 3 days to Upload it?
@magogodlams
@magogodlams 4 жыл бұрын
@@thegamingcat3202 .... Editing
@thegamingcat3202
@thegamingcat3202 4 жыл бұрын
Nelisiwe Dlamini doesnt seem like a video like this would take more than a day
@JS97.
@JS97. 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t. Worry spit from the past it’s too good now
@V-V1875-h
@V-V1875-h 3 жыл бұрын
The German mig19 doesnt even have AAM
@thcfck6870
@thcfck6870 4 жыл бұрын
Took it out now that BR are decompressed, it's so much better
@Spitflyer
@Spitflyer 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I have to give it another go
@thcfck6870
@thcfck6870 4 жыл бұрын
@@Spitflyer it's like 20-30% downtiers, and the uptiers are like 40% with 3-4 10.7 and mostly 10.0-10.3s
@patrikwt7660
@patrikwt7660 4 жыл бұрын
Hello spit_flyer. I know you probably wont see this but I would love to see you make a video on the cl13 mk5. I just finished researching it and the g91 r3 but I dont know if I should buy the mk5 or if I should buy the r3. I feel like the mk5 would do bad at 9.3 with the 9.7 BR lock out the game now. If you can please make a video that would be really helpful
@keenan_wt
@keenan_wt 4 жыл бұрын
Same here I researched the cl135 mk 5 and also got the r3 but I dknt know which plane would be better and there is no updated vids on either so I have no clue what to buy
@alexandresola6942
@alexandresola6942 4 жыл бұрын
Here are all the plane that should be in your new br suggestion : Mig19S Mig19PT Mig21F13 All F104 except the S and G Su-7B and BLK F-4C (but maybe now it have new missiles it can support 10.3?) Hunter F.6 (and maybe FGA.9..?) T2(K) J32B G91YS F100 (all) Say me if I forget some planes and say if you're agree or not with me.
@miikatapanimatiastuhkiaine4057
@miikatapanimatiastuhkiaine4057 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking more of a low supersonic 10.0, with T-2 and Jaguar at most in it and then going gradually up with the early F-4s, F-104s, Su-7s and MiG-21Fs at 10.7 and then the rest at higher or something along those lines
@atomic9551
@atomic9551 4 жыл бұрын
hey spit, i just grinded out the jaguar as my first (at least in matches) top tier jet. can you please make a video in order to warn people like m not to waste their time?
4 жыл бұрын
How do you do so when using free cam and moving the plane your plane doesn't try to go to the previous position? It keeps going where you want
@thomasbristow9362
@thomasbristow9362 4 жыл бұрын
Please do a vid on the Firebrand just to see how rubbish it is even in capable hands
@FightCain
@FightCain 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know modern jets that well as I just got used to Korean War Jets (despite suffering from missiles). Should I climb really high to have higher potential energy or stay shallow and build up more speed? I always find myself getting shot down by top tier jets and all by missiles. I always take 20 min of fuel since afterburner seems essential and ditched the missiles. Only saving grace of this plane is its repair price that I find helpful in ground battle as a fighter bomber
@martijn9568
@martijn9568 4 жыл бұрын
Climb to at most 3000 meters for most planes, then get as much speed as possible before engaging enemies while staying at 3000m. Remember when climbing to climb at 500-600 km/h and to slowly lose speed during a climb. An angle of about 7.5 degrees should work.
@FightCain
@FightCain 4 жыл бұрын
Martijn yeah, I usually adjust while climbing. Gonna try that next time I boot up
@enderdragon9307
@enderdragon9307 4 жыл бұрын
Spit, i have question - how you and other wt youtubers make mouse aim circle move while you look around? Just mine is stuck in one place 90% of the times while i do same thing.
@russiabear4044
@russiabear4044 4 жыл бұрын
They use their keyboard to help them aim it take a lot of skill
@RichardVSmall
@RichardVSmall 4 жыл бұрын
Bind the pitch, roll and yaw axes to keys on the keyboard in the control settings. I personally use the spacebar as 'pitch up' so when I'm in a dogfight I just use my thumb to hold down the spacebar so my plane keeps turning at maximum while I can use the mouse to look around. I hope that helps :)
@enderdragon9307
@enderdragon9307 4 жыл бұрын
@@RichardVSmall sadly no, that i use myself, i asked how he force mouse aim circle to move with plane while he look around, not how he turn plane
@ThatOneGuy46696
@ThatOneGuy46696 4 жыл бұрын
@@enderdragon9307 Press C to look around
@enderdragon9307
@enderdragon9307 4 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOneGuy46696 rly now? Did you even read what i wrote? I KNOW HOW TO LOOK AROUND!
@gage2141
@gage2141 4 жыл бұрын
Correct like what he said 10.0 BR planes are near worthless anymore [9.7-10.0] BR should be it’s own bracket I believe most of the community would agree with this and not mind if there was a little bit of a longer Q time !
@henkfourie9862
@henkfourie9862 4 жыл бұрын
my new disappointment in WT is jets (above 7.3) and the Merkava
@kokonidas_9873
@kokonidas_9873 4 жыл бұрын
One thought for these su7 too
@jordanhorrocks9532
@jordanhorrocks9532 4 жыл бұрын
Why don't you have a video addressing the new matchmaking and the removal of the 9.7 br lock?
@Spitflyer
@Spitflyer 4 жыл бұрын
I've literally had no time to play and when I do the internet dies one me. I can't get the time to record, I can't get the footage I want.
@jordanhorrocks9532
@jordanhorrocks9532 4 жыл бұрын
@@Spitflyer fair enough mate, I understand that real life can get in the way. I just don't understand why none of my favourite warthunder youtubers have addressed this, considering that it's probably the the biggest change to air RB this year. Other than a single post on the forums and the odd one on the Reddit, no one is talking about the fact that historical matchmaking completely gone from lower BR and and both the lower and higher BR jet caps are completely gone! Doesn't matter what BR I play, all I see is Japan and America vs the rest and I'm honestly kinda sick of it. Well gl, thanks for the reply and hopefully you can make a video addressing this soon.
@onyourkilllist6880
@onyourkilllist6880 4 жыл бұрын
*_Spits got the Rona!_*
@shootermcgaven02
@shootermcgaven02 4 жыл бұрын
They really do NEED a 10.0 only. So what if the wait time is extended a little. Then make more mixed. Better then NOT being able to play the planes or get stepped on. 10.0 = dead meat.
@voidgaming3700
@voidgaming3700 4 жыл бұрын
How about the crying f100D because somehow the french one gets to be at 9.7
@timlinbecker8749
@timlinbecker8749 4 жыл бұрын
Please do the A-36 next. Speedy boi with .50 cal insanity.
@rednuke0082
@rednuke0082 4 жыл бұрын
if all of this is true then then the swordfish should be at a BR or about 4.0 then since it flew around the same time many more capable aircraft flew
@cjmaddox7760
@cjmaddox7760 4 жыл бұрын
I am resareching the mig -19s and now I see this, should I go down the sabre line
@DonWouter1
@DonWouter1 4 жыл бұрын
Same question here
@russiabear4044
@russiabear4044 4 жыл бұрын
I did the mig path and now doing Sabres path
@miikatapanimatiastuhkiaine4057
@miikatapanimatiastuhkiaine4057 4 жыл бұрын
If you are comfortable using guns against planes in a BR bracket, where every other plane gets missiles and RWR or flares, go for it. MiG-19S has really strong engines and a high thrust-to-weight ratio, which allows for it to remain competitive at some level.
@menlover445
@menlover445 4 жыл бұрын
Yoo its me, War Thunder BR
@jacob2790
@jacob2790 4 жыл бұрын
Stay positive bro.
@DatBoiiRue
@DatBoiiRue 4 жыл бұрын
IM KINDA NEW AND i CANT PLAY FLEET BATTLES IT KEEPS SAYING EAC SANDBOX NOT installed or something
@justakid113
@justakid113 4 жыл бұрын
I love this plane I just got it and have had a great time. It mainly depends on the team like you said you can’t carry 1 v 2s but if you have a good team this thing can do soooo much damage. Me and the other mig 19pt clutched a game against f4es Ps some how I dodged two srrams back to back in this think stock.
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