True Wireless IEMs SOLVED _(Z Reviews)_ A Rant on TWS

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@ElectricityTaster
@ElectricityTaster 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for Zeos to review hearing aids when he's old and half deaf.
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT...? WHAT?!?
@tsudaa
@tsudaa 4 жыл бұрын
that's just BA headphones
@Cantripping
@Cantripping 4 жыл бұрын
I can't help but think that comment triggered some deep, existential fear in Z.
@anmolsharma4049
@anmolsharma4049 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@diedforurwins
@diedforurwins 4 жыл бұрын
Z Reviews eeeeehh? Wha!? Waifu?
@AdnanFiroze
@AdnanFiroze 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think TRN copied Fiio rather the reverse way around, since the TRNs came out earlier.
@zzz-vd5rp
@zzz-vd5rp 4 жыл бұрын
The TRN ones came earlier I saw them for sale since last year.
@reiverblade
@reiverblade 4 жыл бұрын
and TRN is the OEM for Fiio the UTWS-1 is a BT20S with some tweak nothing more.
@himeraji
@himeraji 3 жыл бұрын
what is the best between TRN or Fiio
@reiverblade
@reiverblade 3 жыл бұрын
@@himeraji having tested both ... price wise TRN, and i doubt what Fiio claim that they custom ordered the chipset to be tuned specially for their IEMs is real, because aside a little floor noise (barely perceptible) the quality of sound is quite alike on my FA1 and FH5 i had one little issue with the right module MMCX connector on the TRN, so i'd say the Fiio might have better fitting the rest is all the same save for the branding and i do not think it is worth almost 4 time the price (in my country a UTWS-1 is 80$~ and i paid the BT20S 25$ on AliExpress) if going TRN for price value be sure to take the S because the BT20 is the older model. (so best come down to beliefs in the brand and their claim they tweaked the OEM model to be better .... and the price locally/online) although i completely put both set and Fiio IEMs aside since i bought a Anker Soundcore Liberty 2 Pro lately ... sound just as good as the FH5 and more practical than 2 "pseudo TWS" little dongle
@himeraji
@himeraji 3 жыл бұрын
​@@reiverblade Honestly I discovered IEMs and all that goes with them very recently and I just bought my first pair for $110 with the UTWS-1 for $40 yesterday online. I am a beginner so thank you for your review on both. It confirms what I was suspecting: no big differences between them. I also saw the FOSTEX TM2 but it's much more expensive xD, I would like to try them but I will wait... Right now, I have AirPods, that's nice for the daily life x)
@Berserkism
@Berserkism 4 жыл бұрын
This is what's needed on the KSC75 in place of the standard hook.
@WilloTehWisp
@WilloTehWisp 4 жыл бұрын
I made a ksc75 mod using mmcx connectors and these, sadly the hooks arent stiff enough to hold the ksc in place. Now im using the stock hooks and let the utws1 sit behind my ear. Works great this way.
@blackoutnine
@blackoutnine 3 жыл бұрын
Using this but with a headband mod for stability
@n.o.b.s.8458
@n.o.b.s.8458 4 жыл бұрын
True wireless earbuds aren't aimed at audiophiles. They're aimed at the average person that wants to be able to carry around a way to listen to music without fiddling with wires, and fits in their pocket easily. Obviously, just about any other use of >$100 could result in better audio quality. That's not what a lot of people are asking for, though. Buying an mmcx iem, then another adapter, then charging each side independently, and having to turn each one on before usage is not a direct comparison to a auto-wake, with a charging case. Plus, a lot of people charge their true wireless along with their phone at night. Its a good solution for a lot of people, and i dont think anyone should feel bad about prioritizing convenience over audio quality if they have the money for them.
@mephistovonfaust
@mephistovonfaust 4 жыл бұрын
I've always used my KZ Z10S Pro or Tin P1s (before I sent them back) with a Dragonfly Black at the office and switched it up from time to time to my Sennheiser PXC 550 but recieved the Galaxy Buds+ with my new smartphone (Galaxy S20+) for free. Not going to lie... The audio quality isn't on the same level but the convinience makes me use them much more than I thought I would. I was sure I was going to sell them straight away but after trying them out I've got to admit, TWIEMs are pretty awesome for their convinience.
@monsterrun
@monsterrun 4 жыл бұрын
i love wires...you know when you drop a tiny little ear bud that costed you 150$... and you can't find it anymore… even thought it costed you 150$ most ignore its only Worth 25$ but that's Something else. All this crap about true Wireless ear buds is a virus that mutated from Apple Worm that almost eated the whole apple with its stupid earpods...
@InSaiyanShinobi
@InSaiyanShinobi 4 жыл бұрын
He basically just gave you a true wireless there’s no cord with the product that he said ?
@panacheautomotive4298
@panacheautomotive4298 4 жыл бұрын
I spent a long time looking at TWS IEMs watching a lot of reviews and couldn't decide on one because I knew it would be a compromise on sound and since they would live in my pockets I would use them more than my favorite iem's and I didn't want to do that. So, when I saw the Fostex option I was excited until i saw the price and said it was a no go. When Z reviewed this I decided this is a no brainier. Now I have my favorite IEM's on the UTWS1 and I couldn't be any happier. For a total of $345.00 I have the Audiosense T800 UTWS1 and no compromise. They come with me everywhere and I get to listen to my extremely good iem's more often. In no way a major brand iem compete with this set up. I've tried TOTL tws iems from Bose Apple Sennheiser Sony etc... and they can even compete with my KZ ZS10 PRO much less my T800's. And on top of that many of them make you look ridiculous. And until Audiophile iem manufacturers start building TWS versions of their iem there will be no competition for this kind of setup. BTW they work great for calls as well
@fuckERLa
@fuckERLa 4 жыл бұрын
@Never a Dull Moment I get what you mean, but the problem lies with "Why can't we have both?" The convenience of true wireless, charging case and everything included, except- it's interchangeable? Do we simply not have the technology yet? Seems like with the Shure AONIC's and their Secure Fit True Wireless adapter that the technology already exists, it is costly however, but you're not bound to a single pair of earphone/IEM's so you can have quality with convenience. Question is, why aren't more companies going this direction? Is it because IEMs are just not very common items even before the Tide Pods from apple? Sure, we all know quality IEMs aren't/weren't exactly cheap, but it rubs me the wrong way that people are more than willing to shell out money for shitty quality true wireless earphones yet weren't willing enough to spend the same amount of money before for a good, quality pair of IEMs.
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын
10:28 - Review Starts, (initial rant ends)
@ahmedwael3019
@ahmedwael3019 4 жыл бұрын
Try the lypertek tevi and the galaxy buds and the plus versions, they will change your mind about true wireless.
@pplebite8844
@pplebite8844 4 жыл бұрын
I came for the Zeos Experience. No way, will I fast forward the rant of Zeos Pantera!
@benedicvelasco
@benedicvelasco 4 жыл бұрын
The Tevi is actually worthy of listening. But yeah, TWS is still weird for me.
@Armathius76
@Armathius76 4 жыл бұрын
10:29 Item Sells out on Amazon :). Question for ya if you're reading these Z... Do you let manufacturers know when you do a very positive review that will sell a ton of their shit (Like this one or the Mica RB42) or do they see it when it goes live? My guess is Fiio is a Patreon supporter :).
@marksafe5463
@marksafe5463 4 жыл бұрын
Your rants are entertaining. Plus pastah is hilarious!
@ScottOstr
@ScottOstr 4 жыл бұрын
36 minutes in was GOD tier recommendations: add a charging case, noise-canceling modes, passive mode, and EQ phone app. That product would be easily worth a premium price. Hopefully 2021 or 2022.
@joaopedrosa4160
@joaopedrosa4160 3 жыл бұрын
they have it now its called fiio utws3 came back to see the prophet speaking of the future
@tehpunisher4568
@tehpunisher4568 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah these exist now. Trying to get them but much hard
@theonlinething1039
@theonlinething1039 3 жыл бұрын
They can‘t add ANC, cause this feature needs an array of microphones, or at least 2 of them.
@HeyNavi
@HeyNavi 2 жыл бұрын
@@joaopedrosa4160 they now made a utws5 lol. I’m expecting to see someone comment that they made a 7 on my comment in a year or two
@ragecandy
@ragecandy 4 жыл бұрын
"3/8 of an inch" I'm genuinely horrified
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын
I mean. We Americans just know how big that feels. It is our birthright!
@lunatrics
@lunatrics 4 жыл бұрын
So that's about 1/500th of a bison. I get it.
@frykauf
@frykauf 4 жыл бұрын
@@lunatrics no no, 1/500.000th of a football field.
@jaxmanf
@jaxmanf 4 жыл бұрын
Z Reviews Nah that’s 3/5ths
@jasonmusic3
@jasonmusic3 4 ай бұрын
🎉 Amazing video bro! 👌🏾 I'm new to IEM headphones and spent years with Bluetooth headphones and never knew this world existed! This is truly amazing to be able to by any IEM we want and interchange with Bluetooth devices like this! Thank you 🙏🏾🙏🏾🎉
@alexvdl1
@alexvdl1 4 жыл бұрын
I've spent a decent length of time with the Shure AONIC 215s (USD $249), and they are fantastic. Decent sound for the money, great isolation, great battery life, and incredible in-built microphones for environment mode and of course for making phonecalls. The Shure True Fit Wireless Adapter (USD $199) will be available a standalone accessory, and litterally addresses every negative point that you made about the FiiO adapter (noise floor, charging case etc.) making it a great premium alternative to the FiiO adapter.
@iielysiumx5811
@iielysiumx5811 4 жыл бұрын
“Spend more get less” really sums up wireless IEMS at this point, ont get me wrong I won song XM3 and they are very convinient but as Z said I dont want to listen to them, I only ever pick them up when I’m either going to uni or work or going for a run. When I use an IEM for music I wanna listen to my fiio fh5 or my tin t2 or my KZ earphones I don’t wanna listen to my wireless Sony’s because they just don’t sound as good, and I’ve been told that those Sony’s are about as good as it gets for an IEM sound wise in 2020 so. One day wireless IEMS will sound just as good as wires ones but the engineering and the technology just is not there yet
@DarrenKrusi
@DarrenKrusi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Zeos, I bought these after watching your rant. I had the excellent for their price Advanced Audio Model 3 with the bluetooth module and when the charging port on that started to fail I really needed something that allowed me to use any future earphone purchase wirelessly. You really saved me because I was about to drop some money and be locked into the sound of a specific set of TWS. Now at least I'll be able to enjoy my Tin P1 and T2 when I feel like it.
@tiggstah
@tiggstah 4 жыл бұрын
your reviews, while perhaps long winded and rambling, are by far the best on youtube. because of you i got the KZ S10 pro's and i could NOT be happier with them. (disabled vet on very limited budget) Finally upgraded (after a year of saving) to the iphone 11 from my 6s+ and you have saved my life. I have also been saving for wireless iem's as well and i'm not sure if i should get these (utws1) or the btr5. p.s. your suggestion of upgrading to the dekoni tips made those iem's go from amazing to amazing x3
@JeffJacquesmd
@JeffJacquesmd 4 жыл бұрын
This video cost me the least amount of money of all your vids brother. Wondering how these Fiio things will drive the Empire Ears Valkyries, though I’m going to have to put a MMCX to 2 Pin adapter. BTW Zeos, Drop sells these converters every so often, when they have them the adapters are cheaper on Drop.
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын
The joy is trying them. I rocked those $700 S8's for a bit.
@JeffJacquesmd
@JeffJacquesmd 4 жыл бұрын
Z Reviews these are quite nice with both the S8Z and the EE Valkyries. They become uncomfortable, for me, after about 3 hours of wear. And occasionally they are difficult to associate to a specific device
@barryborris
@barryborris 4 жыл бұрын
This is just a rebadged TRN BT20S. Fiio have done nothing other than change the outer housing styling a little. The BT20S is cheaper and has a 2 pin versions in addition to MMCX.
@junglist1soldier
@junglist1soldier 4 жыл бұрын
@@barryborris aren't those knock-off's of the Fiio? Fostex has a rechargeable case for their BT dongle iem connector thingy's.
@panacheautomotive4298
@panacheautomotive4298 4 жыл бұрын
@@JeffJacquesmd I had the same problem after 3 hours but after bending them the opposite direction for a few seconds no more pressure behind the ears
@hecntina
@hecntina 4 жыл бұрын
I use the TRN BT20S (released first, BTW, not the other way around), paired with Jade Audio EA3....superb combo for ~ $85 total, with secure fit while jogging. I've tried them with BLON BL-03, KZ ZS10 Pro, and QKZ VK4, but I found the EA3 to have the best combo of SQ, flat footprint, and secure fit for _my_ ears. Caveat...to loosen the pull from the hooked cable, I curled them backward for a few seconds; much more comfy.
@panacheautomotive4298
@panacheautomotive4298 4 жыл бұрын
Nice combo
@M530H
@M530H 4 жыл бұрын
23:07 best part of the review. You made my morning Z. I will be getting a pair of these.
@shadowpapito
@shadowpapito 4 жыл бұрын
Well, well, well look at what we have here!! MMX to 2 pin and vice versa! That is one technical detail I missed that opens up a whole new world!! Plus the Main theme of the Video! Excellent job! Actual influence involves exercising the power to upgrade user experience, through attention to detail via smart and or hard work! Salute
@mrgee918
@mrgee918 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Truly game changer for those who love their IEMs . Fiio can glady have my money when they adopt LDAC codec. That's the only way you'll realise the potential of your IEMs wireless. So I'll stay with earsutdio for now.
@mrlolster2144
@mrlolster2144 4 жыл бұрын
Fiio do technically have a LDAC solution now, but it's a neckband design. Unlike this tws one it has both 2 pin and mmcx, It's got a nice DAC as well. Ngl it sounds kinda nice.
@TheRealFrank0
@TheRealFrank0 4 жыл бұрын
There's just something about your videos man. Whatever it is, I love it!
@S.M.A.Batista
@S.M.A.Batista 4 жыл бұрын
BTR5 with a very short MMCX cable is how I rock.
@jb678901
@jb678901 2 жыл бұрын
Recently bought the KZ AZ09 PRO bluetooth hooks (US$37) for my IEM's...KZ ZS10 Pro's ($33) & CCA NRA's ($18). My new favorite combos. An IEM hybrid with true wireless BT5.2 Aptx HD, plug and play! Clear. Excellent sound quality with good IEM's. LONG battery life too. Must get the PRO version, not the regular one. PRO does not have any connectivity issues and supports HD Aptx, AAC, SBC. QCC 3040 chip - BT 5.2. Will work with one or both ear-loops too/TWS+. Fits any 2-pin 75 (QDC) or 78mm IEM (B style plug). 8 hours on a single charge, 48 hrs with case. CVC noise reduction and good call quality. Sweatproof. My new favorites...been using them in the office/home office. Still prefer the ANC earbuds while travelling (i.e. Earfun Free Pro's, Soundcore Life P3's). The receivers/batteries/manual controls fit behind the ear...but they are really comfortable for me. Buttons are behind my earlobes and convenient to access. Paired with the right IEM, they are my favs. As for magnetic clips...which I use with the KZ HD Aptx BT5.2 cable ($20)...go for these on AliEx: "6 pcs Magnetic Cable Clips Magnetic Cable Organizers Twist Ties Earbuds Cords Winder USB Cable Manager Bookmark Clips 6 Colors" ~$5.40. These rubberized magnetic clips match the cable perfectly AND with their little loop capture the cable while clipping magnetically to my shirt collar. By doing so, the cable never slips off when the IEM's are hanging around my neck AND the clip holds the mic/receiver in an optimal position at all times.
@brauf
@brauf 4 жыл бұрын
Zeos may say that there's an initial rant but that's the real content 😜 I live for this
@jacobmaston5462
@jacobmaston5462 4 жыл бұрын
"I need to switch to freedom units" - Zeos (30:54)
@123-u4r5v
@123-u4r5v 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that i came here ONLY AFTER debating what wireless iems to buy, and ending up buying Starfields with Moondrop's bluetooth thingy, just so you could tell me to do just that. Great rant, great reviews too
@Zez1nas
@Zez1nas 4 жыл бұрын
Zeos are you going to review TRN BT20S PRO?
@matthew40
@matthew40 4 жыл бұрын
Damn Z, just when I thought you were losing your comedic touch, you whip out the horse buggy-Model T analogy. Thank you for the biggest laugh of the week for me. I also bought the FiiO to be apart of history.
@djfrankfresh
@djfrankfresh 4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who agrees with me. Im rocking the Shure 425s with the Fiio and Im good to go.
@Isaack297
@Isaack297 4 жыл бұрын
Is it powerful enough for the tin hifi p1's?
@andrew66769
@andrew66769 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly cannot understand how the meta isn't buying iems and true wireless dac amps to pair them with. It just makes so much sense....
@christiana117
@christiana117 4 жыл бұрын
I am super hyped for the new Shure aonics. Apparently they are gonna sell just the tws module with a charging case working with all iems. Which is quite nice
@iielysiumx5811
@iielysiumx5811 4 жыл бұрын
This is the type of thing that once the tech matures I will 100% invest in, having my FH5 wireless would be amazing
@Zednix
@Zednix 4 жыл бұрын
I love that those fiio utws1 are $110 CAD on Amazon.ca, our Canadian peso is so bad.
@TheStaniG
@TheStaniG 4 жыл бұрын
Australian rupees are exactly as bad :'(
@julianklein1
@julianklein1 3 жыл бұрын
Love these passionate reviews, Z is v entertaining whilst being v informative and knowledgeable.
@Boyetto-san
@Boyetto-san 4 жыл бұрын
The Fiios/TRN's don't need a charging case. Apple has controlled the conversation long enough to brainwash us to ignore that it's stupid and inconvenient to be forced to stop listening to your IEM's whenever they run out of battery power in order to charge them. If Fiio or TRN provided a longer double ended USB charging cable, that essentially means you could keep listening even as you charge your IEM's. How can it be a disadvantage to have to use a "wired" IEM for a few mins of charging, compared to being forced to put your IEM's away for charging?
@Zendicar
@Zendicar 4 жыл бұрын
how can they make them with micro USB in 2020
@irvnegrin2211
@irvnegrin2211 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%, I've tried several tws products, always coming back to my shures and westones due to their poor sound quality. It's not about being an audiophile, it's about appreciating and enjoying the musical presentation. Anyway your prayers have been answered, fiio has advanced from the model T to a 50s Cadillac. They've included separate amplifiers to make them more iem friendly, added a charging case with auto pairing convenience and a phone app which supports eq and FW updates. There are still drawbacks however. The case is huge and I fear it will make the experience more cumbersome than it needs to be. I don't have them yet, it will take 6 weeks for the AliExpress order to come. They are utws3 and sell for 79.99, order yours today.
@johnwee6800
@johnwee6800 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for UTWS3 review since im getting one.. so it better be a good review 🤣
@Neighsayin
@Neighsayin 2 жыл бұрын
Found you randomly while looking for these wireless Fiio bits. Aside from an interesting talk, also wanted to say lovely Kobayashi picture.
@shabtabq
@shabtabq 4 жыл бұрын
TRN made it first, fiio copied the TRN, and Tin T2's are not designed to be worn down.
@Xi_Jinping_Pooh_Shill
@Xi_Jinping_Pooh_Shill 4 жыл бұрын
And TRN is on gen two of their hook adapter already.
@barryborris
@barryborris 4 жыл бұрын
This is just a rebadged TRN BT20S. Fiio have done nothing other than change the outer housing styling a little.
@Xi_Jinping_Pooh_Shill
@Xi_Jinping_Pooh_Shill 4 жыл бұрын
Still not convenient enough. I'll wait for TRN or Fiio's next iteration that should come with charger. Better if it will have wireless charging.
@giladkingsley
@giladkingsley 4 жыл бұрын
Tin T2 are meant to be worn dowm
@shabtabq
@shabtabq 4 жыл бұрын
@@giladkingsley no it's meant to be worn so as the cable wraps around your ear, the blue ring donates the left side, it's possible they changed the sides in newer models.
@HirooKoslov
@HirooKoslov 4 жыл бұрын
Forget the Fiios, you can get the TRN BT20S that has the exact same chip inside, is the same shape, comes in three different connectors (so you can get one for BL03s/KZs/etc.), has the same battery life, etc. But for less money. I don't know if TRN is the OEM for the Fiio UTWS1, or if they use the same OEM, but as far as I can tell they're identical aside from the logo and the Fiio has a chrome surround on the buttons. The BT20S and the UTWS1 are most likely made in the same factory, but they're made to slightly different specs, which is something Chinese factories do a lot.
@meridiusuk8567
@meridiusuk8567 4 жыл бұрын
yep came to the same conclusion as i have a pair of westone w4r which are 2 pins and the TRN BT20S Pros have changeable connectors and a good charring case
@EM-ks5my
@EM-ks5my 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see those with LDAC like the FIIO neckband.
@rexbk09
@rexbk09 3 жыл бұрын
Gone, but not forgotten.. .. The commercial product lines of every year. I picked both connectors up during this time! Burning a hole in my wallet. ... ..
@manuelg.5811
@manuelg.5811 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Z likes the earhooks as I do. I'm sure future versions will solve the noisefloor issue.
@sftwr314r8
@sftwr314r8 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered a set but the left and right would disconnect intermittently from one another. Tried for a couple days to troubleshoot the problem, but no luck - had to return them.
@sftwr314r8
@sftwr314r8 4 жыл бұрын
Reordered. 2nd set work as they should.
@TheHundrethmonkey
@TheHundrethmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
weirdly found these in my mailbox today didnt think they make it here.......soooo good. As usual great rec. Sound great with tinT2 pros through a Fiio M11..... pure bliss.
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 4 жыл бұрын
Whats bad about TWS is.... Once the battery degradates, the only thing you can do is chug the whole thing, perfectly good driver and amp and chops inside included, to the garbage bin. I much prefer to just buy a wireless adapter and connect it to my 2pin/MMCX terminated IEMs For now i have an Audio Technica E40 attached to a neckband adapter, it costed 10usd. Used ut a ton for day to day riding up and down my town. I prefert he soound of it to any TWS i've heard, the Sony included (pre EQ'd)
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gandalf721 yes a neck band will be easier to replace. TWS tho, you see how small they are? Those buds prob just have like 80 mAh in each side, then they have custom oarts with custon connections, Theres a reason the airpod get very low score in iFixIt. TWS is expensive and they have limited usage time. 90+ % of proper headphone doesnt have that limit.
@nitromenoob
@nitromenoob 4 жыл бұрын
@@Gandalf721 no, the best solution is to stop buying cheap battery powered devices.
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 4 жыл бұрын
@@nitromenoob thing is, buy the airpods and Beats TWS and they're all expensive, but will still die after their battery went kaput. The best way is to have a TWS designed with easy battery replacement in mind by the manufacturers
@SpardasTechReviews
@SpardasTechReviews 4 жыл бұрын
I just got some tapes too lol love them and have been thinking about trying these Bluetooth receivers for them
@Mihajil
@Mihajil 4 жыл бұрын
Zeos they have changed the packaging comes with a case now
@503appie
@503appie 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know how long the Fiio are available for but I've seen versions of the TRN's on the market for over a year. When you brought out the Fiio's I thought they were just rebranded TRN's
@barryborris
@barryborris 4 жыл бұрын
Albert The Fiios literally are a rebranded TRN BT20S.
@503appie
@503appie 4 жыл бұрын
@@barryborris Exactly what I thought. Zeos assumed it the other way around
@dubOZ
@dubOZ 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it was just me but I went to test those fiio bt things at my local audio shop, and it changed how my iems sounded (bgvp dmg) so I didn't like them. So I agree with Z, it's the future but it might take a while before someone gets it perfectly right. Which is why I'd probably still go for tws mifo o7
@popzeus3000
@popzeus3000 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Trn is the OEM and FiiO is licensing the right to use the BT20s platform (or whatever revision they’re on) for the UTWS1. There’s no actual IP “theft” going on. Agree it’s not quite on the level it needs to be with usability compared to the competition. I’d love to see them improve their noise cancelling app as well as add it to their whole wireless line, like with this. The price increase would be worth it imho.
@mrhanky5555
@mrhanky5555 4 жыл бұрын
Uhh I didn’t see the sennheiser momentum’s one the table. The supposed best true wireless earbuds. Also do those fiios have noise pass thru? I’d rather have that than noise canceling.
@panacheautomotive4298
@panacheautomotive4298 4 жыл бұрын
The momentous are extremely veiled they can't hold up to modern KZ's... they don't have peas through. I hope they have it on the second the version
@yomega69
@yomega69 4 жыл бұрын
21:58 is exactly the issue. I bought into the Raycon bs because it's comfy and convenient but damn the quality is just so low. Hopefully the next iteration of true wireless Bluetooth adapter really nails it.
@pplebite8844
@pplebite8844 4 жыл бұрын
This is SO on time for me! Saved me lots of money, now I just need to wait it out.
@JohnCiaccio
@JohnCiaccio 4 жыл бұрын
I have the KZ S1. I actually really like the sound profile. Never going to get audiophile sound but very pleasing. Best sounding TWS right now and very loud.
@inowiamgoodlooking10
@inowiamgoodlooking10 4 жыл бұрын
I have these and for £100 they sound fantastic.
@Mellowbaton
@Mellowbaton 4 жыл бұрын
That wallpaper is what I'm talking about
@bigb77
@bigb77 4 жыл бұрын
Ty z for passion and heart into your work!! cheers 🍻
@DynoSauR4Truth
@DynoSauR4Truth 3 жыл бұрын
The Amazon link to the Ikko OH10 is actually taking people to the Ikko OH1. Switcheroo? out of stock?
@theSEGAtwistisover9k
@theSEGAtwistisover9k 4 жыл бұрын
I really like these but the charge time is terrible compared to my tws, hope they keep improving these, I may still get them the idea is so compelling.
@GiftOfYHWH
@GiftOfYHWH 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Zeos, long time viewer here (first time commentor), just wondering if the UT-WS5s would be able to power the 60ohm Kinera Imperial Nanna 2?
@RJ_____________
@RJ_____________ 4 жыл бұрын
that's fucking awesome i can even use that with earbuds that have detachable cables thanks for another great recommendation,Z keep it up. pretty fun and helpful review as always
@humanmale1085
@humanmale1085 4 жыл бұрын
True wireless earphones can be decent enough for everyday use while commuting, exercising etc. They arent designed for critical listening.
@noahbirdrevolution
@noahbirdrevolution 4 жыл бұрын
I feel a similar way about true wireless. Just retired my 6s to ipod status & moved to an Xs, so started true wireless shopping. Ended up getting the Senn 58x, blon bl03 & a dongle.
@nonenothing4412
@nonenothing4412 4 жыл бұрын
very good choice of headphones. which dongle you got?
@noahbirdrevolution
@noahbirdrevolution 4 жыл бұрын
@@nonenothing4412 iDARS lightning to 3.5mm; just a basic "reinforced" adapter.
@hanmenggan2445
@hanmenggan2445 4 жыл бұрын
How about the SHURE - RMCE-TW1
@calebwhite9086
@calebwhite9086 4 жыл бұрын
Want to ask the same. Want to have a review.
@yosifbaiee6902
@yosifbaiee6902 3 жыл бұрын
Yea same
@randalllawkin
@randalllawkin 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool idea 👌😎
@SamuraiGuy
@SamuraiGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I was listening to this video in the background and came back to see the wallpaper... *invest*
@skaman7662
@skaman7662 4 жыл бұрын
it's logical. I agree. Eagerly waiting for gen 2 Fiio.
@pdcragin33
@pdcragin33 4 жыл бұрын
What your rant points out is that there’s a terrible lack of SHORT IEM cables to go from IEM to EarStudio or BTR5 clipped at shirt pocket level. Particularly in balanced versions.
@joshuasmith29
@joshuasmith29 4 жыл бұрын
I know that you are hate reviewing true wireless, but I really think you would like the Klipsch t5 true wireless. The only problem that they had was they stuck out too far from your ears, however, if you put on a foam tip it gets rid of that problem.
@1Aevum
@1Aevum 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, the TRN come out first.
@Caoilte75
@Caoilte75 4 жыл бұрын
That's true, I was about to comment the same thing. Fiio copied Trn and did it a bit better.
@charlestwoo
@charlestwoo 4 жыл бұрын
@@Caoilte75 what's better about the fiio version?
@Ratseeker
@Ratseeker 4 жыл бұрын
@@charlestwoo The FiiO uTWS1 has less hiss with ultra sensitive iems. Either way nobody copied who. TRN makes the Fiio devices, but it is rebranded and upgraded by FiiO.
@Sethery11
@Sethery11 4 жыл бұрын
The noise cancelling/passthrough and EQ on my Sony TWS buds though. 🤤
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 4 жыл бұрын
TWS has its place, its the best in convenience, bar none, even my 60+ YO father that likes grado and Audio Technica admits that the WF-1000XM3 sounds good and are the most comfortable in ear he ever used.
@air_
@air_ 4 жыл бұрын
@The Crimson Drummer bruh what is up with your ears
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 4 жыл бұрын
@The Crimson Drummer the WF has 2 volume control, one from the source the other on the IEM itself, if you connect it to a rudimentary bluetooth source. Like ie your DAP, They cant make use of the proper volume control as the DAP settings make the WF get stuck in low volume settings, the way to fix this is by havibg the WF updated to the latest FW, which adds volume control to the buds itself, you can and should up the volume on the buds after you add appropriate volume from the source. Maybe the WF you tried is fresh off the box for the convention, so it has stock release FW, or its new but the one manning the stand didnt put it with the volume control setting from the IEM's app settings. So yeah that's that.
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 4 жыл бұрын
@The Crimson Drummer well sales rep is rep i guess? It depends on the convention luck on whether you get good people manning the store or not. As far as i know, yes you can, it just need to be FW updated and set to have volume control by the method of the smartphone app.
@Sethery11
@Sethery11 4 жыл бұрын
@The Crimson Drummer Must have been a bluetooth issue. They get plenty loud. Sometimes they're not and I have to forget and repair them. But that happens with several bluetooth devices I have.
@TITANoner
@TITANoner 4 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the Starfield review!
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын
Its in the can. Should go to Patreon/SS today or tomorrow.
@Pirxel
@Pirxel 4 жыл бұрын
got my tin t2s with the kz bluetooth adapter, so not true wireless, but honestly good enough for damn sure better than any true wireless
@TechnicalGamingChannel
@TechnicalGamingChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking as someone that owns the Anker Soundcore TWS earbuds, you are absolutely wrong. People buying TWS right now don't care about audio quality or price. They're average consumers that just want something that works and is convenient. The Soundcores I have were $55 and sound fine. Yeah, they're not great sounding or anything, but for working out at the gym they're better than anything with a wire because there's nothing bouncing around that can get caught on equipment or annoy me. I have a bunch of wired IEMs that sound way better than the Soundcores, but at this point, you couldn't pay me to use them on the go. TWS exists to replace the crappy earbuds that come with phones. They're not trying to be audiophile gear. The only reason they're expensive (they're actually not, the Soundcores again are $55) is because they're new. Eventually, we'll be seeing the same kind of surge in quality we've seen in general headphones the last 10 years in TWS systems. Eventually, there will be a plethora of choices in every price range, etc. I mean just look at all the stupid hoops you're jumping through to use your preferred IEMs with the FIIO system. You have to buy the FIIOs, a pair of IEMs with a detachable cable, some dumbass connection adapters. And in exchange, yeah, you get the IEMs you like. But you also don't get a convenient charging case or an all-in-one system with fewer parts to lose or break. By the time you add up all the extra stuff you've bought, you've probably paid more than if you had just bought TWS earbuds. I'm an audiophile. I prefer standalone dacs, amps, and quality headphones. But people like us aren't who TWS earbuds are for. They're for people that just care about convenience. If your solution was what people wanted, they'd be the most popular option. People want to deal with less bullshit, not more. I totally agree that your solution offers the superior audio experience. But if people cared about audio, we would still have headphone jacks on everything and phones wouldn't come with dumpster fire IEMs.
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын
This solution isn't popular because it just started being a solution. THIS is ground Zero and the only way to populate it is to stand up for it. I will probably lose money pushing for this over all the TWS that is out there but at least I won't lose sleep. VIVA LA UTWS!
@TechnicalGamingChannel
@TechnicalGamingChannel 4 жыл бұрын
@@ZReviews Yeah don't get me wrong, for us audio nerds this is the better choice. But for consumers, convenience is everything. Most people won't see or understand the practical benefits of using the FIIOs. This video exists to serve people like us more than it does to convince avergae joe to ditch their airpods. Maybe the v2 FIIO adapters will do a better job.
@MinutesB4Midnight
@MinutesB4Midnight 4 жыл бұрын
But he wasn't pushing convenience, he was pushing quality. Audiophiles who want quality don't mind carrying and extra dac/amp, extra headphones, dedicated dap that's not their main phone. This channel is about quality. The general public would have a very hard time even watching this channel if convenience is their concern.
@piciu256
@piciu256 4 жыл бұрын
Xiaomi Redmi Airdots are 20$ and sound good enough, you can't beat that. All the others are too expensive imo, cause are multiple times more expensive and these sound good enough since they're just for using on the go.
@Yohan5
@Yohan5 2 жыл бұрын
saw some other similar ones and this one to, but after this video im thinking of getting this
@brendanchapman9270
@brendanchapman9270 4 жыл бұрын
Only reason I prefer the ones that are connected together by a short wire is because I can pop one out and just let go and it hangs from my shoulder. More useful than you may think.
@alouisschafer7212
@alouisschafer7212 2 жыл бұрын
I cant find the Fiios anywhwere for a price im willing to pay. Are the KZ AZ09 PRO a good choce? Those are 36,99.
@LGNDARYAssassin
@LGNDARYAssassin 4 жыл бұрын
Zeos can you add link for the adapters mmcx to 2 pin to description?
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын
added, my bad
@Forsakenrage02
@Forsakenrage02 4 жыл бұрын
Shout-out to the Pay-to-Win crowd getting first access! Ordered 2, sorry if there's none left
@mobilepsycho
@mobilepsycho 3 жыл бұрын
UTWS3 should raise the quality offering up a notch and optimize what the S1 'lack'.
@joshuamcdonald5850
@joshuamcdonald5850 4 жыл бұрын
"im going to discuss at length" - surpized pikachu
@jameschoa81
@jameschoa81 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most entertaining review i've seen in a long time...for a pair of TW adapters! subed! haha
@EdreiZahari
@EdreiZahari 4 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you clued us in on this at the ($10) chat before Chinese New Year. With the Coronavirus outbreak slowing down electronics production, it'll be a while before they come back into stock again. In fact, the official Fiio store on Aliexpress (which is where I bought it) no longer lists the product which is wild. Mine's finally arriving this week, which is par the course for an Aliexpress order. Gonna rock it with my OH10.
@kimfeliciano2029
@kimfeliciano2029 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is that these two types of tws will be heavily dependent on the consumer. The tws with the case are for the casuals which does not really have audiophile grade earphones. They would rather have a bluetooth headphone that is already included with the purchase rather than an adapter making earphones bluetooth. Let us face it that most casual listeners use wired earphones without mmcx/2 pin connectivity but rather are fixed. Two different types of market but yeah Id rather have an adapter so that I could use my tins
@robburnard2867
@robburnard2867 4 жыл бұрын
Not even different consumers, more like different use cases. When I'm out and about, I don't need the best audio quality, I need convenience. I don't want to deal with $100 in adapters and accessories to get an old iem to work with half the functionality of a TWS. I just want an all in one package that can play background music when while I'm doing stuff and seamlessly handle phone calls. I have better listening options when I want to actually hear music.
@AutistCat
@AutistCat 4 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, does the Fiio actually have lower noise floor than TRN BT20S? I have BT20S and I would upgrade to Fiio instantly for a lower noise floor.
@Emira_75
@Emira_75 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE REVIEW THE UTWS 3!!!!!
@eloy5808
@eloy5808 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Z... So which do you prefer? The UTWS or the BTR3K?
@skizzlemane1
@skizzlemane1 4 жыл бұрын
28:26 some people might think this point moot, but Z, you are 💯 percent correct. If you’re hiking or even grocery shopping you definitely afforded the ability to not be inconvenienced by having to take your device out and interact with it. For $300+ it should link with me telekinetically. But I would settle for touch 36:56 by the way it clearly says in the Amazon link you put up that the FiiO’s do indeed have DSP noise canceling. 😂🤣😂 did you even read it, Z?!?! Lol jk
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think it is the type of noise cancellation we are thinking. It might be noise mitigation from the amp inside.
@skizzlemane1
@skizzlemane1 4 жыл бұрын
Z Reviews yeah I agree. You definitely need an external mic in order to accomplish proper noise canceling.
@skizzlemane1
@skizzlemane1 4 жыл бұрын
Jeronimo Stupenengo Pefaur Nope. Telepathy implies that the BT adapters would have a mind to talk to. One that was equal to a human mind. Even with both being science fiction, I think telekinesis fits best. (To elaborate: I would some how manipulate the BT waves in order to mimic the exact signal as “track skip” 🤷🏻‍♂️ yeah I know 🙄😒 I thought way too much about it)
@floa.8890
@floa.8890 4 жыл бұрын
Do you still recommend the T2 for around 38 bucks? I mean they are 1 year old and you are still using them
@Matt-fd9hc
@Matt-fd9hc 4 жыл бұрын
Ok I just my Tin T2’s. They are great On Friday I get my fiio UTWS 1’s. I’ve watched this video a few times. It’s the whole reason I’m going this route instead of Airpod Pros. I’m a Bluetooth guy so this combo intrigues me. Hope I like them half as much you do.
@barbierbrice8452
@barbierbrice8452 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoy ur musical experience ! And come back to tell us the feedback. PEACE
@granfiesta5749
@granfiesta5749 3 жыл бұрын
>bitches every TWS comes with it's own amp and dac >owns dozens of amps and dacs
@getreal3336
@getreal3336 3 жыл бұрын
Zeos is the only reviewer of all things audio that I watch. I watch every second of his vids too. Just watched every second of this one. He is the best...period, end of story, game over. So TY for yet another great review Z. That said, It's been a year now. Have they come out with an updated version of these now or another brand that's even better? I saw a UTSW3 on amazon that was $500! I don't call that an upgrade over these. That's like having the model T and going to a Rolls Royce. Lol
@jayarmstrong
@jayarmstrong 4 жыл бұрын
Another issue with TWS is their disposable design. All those non-replaceable batteries will die and those drivers will go in the landfill. I'm going with a Fiio or Shanling neckband until that Fiio v2.
@JoeGillian0
@JoeGillian0 4 жыл бұрын
One exception wf-1000xm3, but yes I agree...those are mostly non repairable products
@WookieWoolie
@WookieWoolie 4 жыл бұрын
Ordered these off of Aliexpress as the were about £80 in the UK. These make so much sense.
@kewliost
@kewliost 4 жыл бұрын
The UTWS1 are £78 (100usd) in the UK :'( that or $81USD from AliExpress and DHL shipping :/
@lefou84
@lefou84 4 жыл бұрын
I bought Mezone TWS-B6, the deeper base version. They use a aptX Codec and sound amazing. Eventhough they are very basey (which i adjusted with a little EQ) the range and clarity is amazong for that price. They also are very stealthy... Just a little knob, subtle glow... overall very comfy. I would love to hear what you say about those. I love them.
@brianfisher7385
@brianfisher7385 3 жыл бұрын
FYI, just got my set in from aliexpress. Mine came with a nice little case that holds them with IEMs attached and the cable too. There is a very slight hiss when there is no audio coming through but after a few seconds the amp cuts out to total silence until audio resumes. Overall I am very happy with them.
@danjones4002
@danjones4002 4 жыл бұрын
@zReviews looks like trn came out with your dream version. you mite have to wait a year or 2 for your OG fiio version. they are a bit pricey but i just ordered them
@zstewart93
@zstewart93 4 жыл бұрын
Please Dekoni give me the airpod pro tips ASAP. Apple's are "okay" but I want that audiophile grade attention to detail and fit. The airpod pro's are incredibly convenient and as my job forces me to take phone calls and meetings at inconvenient times the fact that the pros charge wirelessly and are always ready in my pocket is a game changer. I just bought the Fiio to try out for the gym because honestly I want better quality audio when I workout. That may seem silly but I've been using Shure 535's on a cable for years and having that high quality experience helps me get through workouts, the airpod pros are just an tangible amount short there.
@ZReviews
@ZReviews 4 жыл бұрын
End of March. Wink Wink.
@abdullahaziz3997
@abdullahaziz3997 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about to ues it with FH5? And how can you take advantage of the best sound from these two producers together? Should i ues only phone and that's enough or i should ues player and which player if i need player? I want ues this 2 product for gym i want ues for gym I hope u can answer me 🙏🏼
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