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00:00:36 - Druid
00:05:37 - Hunter
00:12:01 - Mage
00:16:57 - Paladin
00:24:11 - Priest
00:29:00 - Rogue
00:34:08 - Shaman
00:37:53 - Warlock
00:48:31 - Warrior
00:54:01 - Neutral
★★★★★
In a Tier 1 deck OR defines Tier 2 deck OR Multiple decks
★★★★
In a Tier 2 deck OR defines Tier 3 deck OR Multiple worse decks
★★★
In a Tier 3 deck OR occasional tech card
★★
Saw some competitive play at some point past the first week (more detailed technicals: the card sees play in at least 1% of decks according to hsreplay in a 14 day timeframe at some point for rank 5-Legend OR it placed highly in a competitive tournament)
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Unplayed
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[@araonthedrake4049]

It may be a stupid request, but is there any chance you could do a trump reviews of basic and classic cards? I think a lot of new-returning players could use some form of a guide which cards are good and what only look good.

[@dillantomlin1827]

I know it would take forever, but i think he should do this every standard rotation.

[@meris8486]

That's a great idea shame so many cards were removed or nerfed from the set.

[@heracles9595]

THIS

[@felipeluz5035]

That's not a stupid request. That's a great idea! It would help not only returning players, but also new players. (Considering that they, somehow, find the video.) And even for veteran players, would be pretty interesting to watch. Not only that, since we have been experiencing with those cards for a long time, it would be much faster/easier for Trump to review those cards than new ones we have never tested. :v

[@therecklessabandable]

"It is no small feat to be the first, and possibly only, ever card I'll give seven stars... Magma Rager, you live in our hearts eternal."

[@turbohuang7780]

"Look forward to Grumble, Worldshaker being good when better shaman cards are printed" *MY JAWS THAT BITE, MY CLAWS THAT CATCH*

[@themuck5607]

my first thought too

[@scottsaunders9905]

That moment at the start where you confuse which is the present trump...

[@amoose8439]

Jokes on you, Trump is a time traveler and exists outside our concept of time itself. Explains the trash rating for corridor creeper. And the whole winning the presidency thing.

[@WnIyLkLvIiAsMt97]

Scott Saunders That moment at the begining when you forget which one is president Trump.

[@joshc.2707]

The struggle is real.

[@muotes]

Have you done any kind of data analysis on your Trump Reviews to see how prediction accuracy has changed over time, and whether you have any particular biases as regards to mana cost, class, etc.? It's really cool you hold yourself so accountable, and It'd be really interesting to see how the numbers have panned out

[@finlaymckeown2891]

+

[@NateRowand-jo2rf]

^

[@leobastian_]

Trump tends to underrate strong neutral Cards,for example ziliax and da Undatakah. Neutral Card tend to be used in 1/2 classes where they Support the Archetype,but Trump Sees neutral and Looks at the strong Decks without synergy.

[@xuspirahopte5549]

I've been rewatching KnC content and realizing it's just as fun and crazy an expansion as I remember. If there were a way to custom select a format in this game, KnC would be the core I design around.

[@tayonic5499]

Hopefully next twist format!!

[@AGameGem]

I'm honestly impressed by how accurately most of these cards were rated. I feel Trump really tried harder this time around to learn from the mistakes of previous expansion ratings (i.e. 'lol priest')

[@MrArtless1]

he actually did much better than before that's for sure.

[@jahanrudge1063]

Take a shot every time he says "it turns out"

[@Vil_Lama]

Don't

[@lexolotlgod]

and "vision"

[@drancosavale2010]

I'm already in hospital 😂😂

[@vincentpelletier57]

How about: "Trump reviews Trump reviews, but every time he says "it turns out", the playback speed doubles", or some similar variation?

[@alexandruanton8824]

5 minutes playing this game and already regreting

[@aidantaylor3324]

Possessed lackey was an easy miss with far too many moving pieces. If any of the healing wasn't there, the weapon that people thought would be destroyed covers its weakness, the 18 minimum additional health for each void lord and not losing by using 5 mana to kill something with cube or losing 5+ mana killing the cube with the huge tempo loss to get something doubled to then summon again. If someone accurately predicted that they would be so synergistic and that they could have so many weaknesses covered blizzard might need to have them disposed of so people don't have a solved meta they hate from the start. I can't fault trump for not being able to see it.

[@Dustypip]

Please keep doing Trump Review Trump Review. Its my favorite series of your channel. Thank you for all the work you do for our entertainment and for the Hearthstone community.

[@LifeTechni800]

Trump might not make the best predictions sometimes, but I love that he goes back and sees which of his predictions were correct and incorrect, no other major HS personality does that. Very interesting concept which I always look forward to, ever since Naxxramus

[@iNahtanoJ]

I love how happy he is with himself when he's right, its cute

[@maomekat7969]

iNahtanoJ T H E H A P P Y G A Y M A N

[@forestskilbred9461]

Despite all the hate Trump gets for his reviews, I think he did a good job with this hearthstone expansion cycle.

[@aidenbar511]

Forest Skilbred I

[@DenEr0c]

The re-uploadman

[@M0torsagmannen]

yeah i wondered why i couldnt see the last one a couple hours ago

[@Venoseth]

...but why?

[@TaranPerry]

HES DONE IT. THIS IS tHE FIRST VIDEO THAT COMES UP WHEN YOU SEARCH trump!!! HES BEAT THE SYSTEM

[@maomekat7969]

Taran Perry it I'd sadly not true. Searching fur trump brings trump pres. It must be from your watch history alas no beating the system

[@TaranPerry]

I am the system now

[@maomekat7969]

Taran Perry System OF A DOWN SUGGAAEEERRRR

[@WnIyLkLvIiAsMt97]

Taran Perry second, for me.

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

Great format, Jens! Here's the super competitive crafting guide for anyone interested (4 and 5-star cards only, post patch, duh): - druid AHAHAHA nope - hunter 5 lesser emerald spellstone 4 wandering monster candleshot - mage 5 aluneth 4 explosive runes - paladin 5 call to arms crystal lion unidentified maul 4 drygulch jailor - priest 5 duskbreaker twilight acolyte - rogue 4 Fal'dorei Strider Elven Minstrel - shaman AAHAHAHAHA nope - warlock 5 voidlord rin, the first disciple skull of the man'ari possessed lackey lesser amethyst spellstone dark pact kobold librarian - warrior AHAHHHAHAH nope - neutral 5 carnivorous cube spiteful summoner grand archivist

[@maomekat7969]

HighLanderPony Ahahhahaa

[@famous_beatbox]

Here in 2022 remembering the glory days of Hearthstone. Just loving being reminded of the meta.

[@mryoussefsonic]

What your looking for 1:06:23

[@justjordan6560]

Droga24/7 dude..youre up here...you need to bring it down here

[@blacklite911]

Also Carniverous cube I think it’s an archtype defining card. It takes the good warlock decks and make them extraordinary. Hell it has an entire archtype named after it. Maybe I’m just a salty tempo/aggro player but to me that card is 6 stars because that combo *completely* stops your tempo and can make it unrecoverable since it would be uninteractable to summon void lords if it’s combo’d late game if you made it that far with tempo.

[@HaloNeInTheDark27]

@@blacklite911 i come from the future to tell you we still hate cubelock

[@hobbes9513]

looking through these trump reviews trump reviews roughly a year later is pretty interesting. Some of the cards which weren‘t strong or used initially eventually became integral parts of strong decks later. This is especially true for many of the kft and gadgetzan cards as well. I‘m really looking forward to Trump reviews trump reviews for The Boomsday Project!

[@lancejohnson3278]

“There were some really strong cards in this expansion”. Arguably one of the strongest expansions of all time. This set was insane.

[@Juanse2012]

One of the most powerful expa in the game, the power level is so high holy moly, even by today's standards

[@stillprophet7529]

26:10 perfect pause timing

[@ConsoleCleric]

Card I most overrated: Master Oakheart. Card I most underestimated: Corridor Creeper. Card I called exactly: Aluneth.

[@TheZombieslayer2002]

ConsoleCleric wild cubelock with MO is pretty good cause you can just pull out things like voidcaller, voild lord, rin , with possesd lacky and tar creepy

[@eVill420]

how did you exactly overrate master oakheart it's a solid 5 star card did you give it 30 stars or something?

[@sirhawkjames]

These review reviews are extremely valuable for someone getting back into hearthstone after a long time

[@ramonestefano]

Your reviews are great, and it's own reviews done by yourself are fantastic. I learn a lot.

[@omfgitsandyb]

Zuljin brought spell hunter to life

[@subprogram32]

Thank god, I was worried and sad that we would not get a Trump Reviews Trump Reviews of the latest expansion!

[@MrFireInTheDisco]

Yup. Fun kickoff to hype season.

[@yunikage]

The very first deck I tried was possessed lackey, voidlord, Rin, N'Zoth. The doomguard stuff never occurred to me at all. Never used Skull. It actually worked really well.

[@intem333]

i love how so much of rogue is so much better in wild. so many fun decks and the secrets are just good.

[@Kentauros1991]

Ah, so you fixed the "1 Star: Meta-defining; 5 Stars: Unplayable" description, and now Trump's predictions are more accurate. Tsk-tsk!

[@brettroper1031]

Kentauros1991 uhh wot

[@tylerperlenfein]

Kentauros1991 he would always use this rating system, I don't know when you are referring to of him using 1 star is best

[@Kentauros1991]

This video was re-uploaded because right in the first minute the screen described the stars in the reversed order: so the bottom one read "5 Stars: Unplayable".

[@sicazz6875]

I thought he was memeing with the whole guldan 1 star thing

[@humbletreestump8134]

I love this series!!!

[@artimex723]

Watching this in Ashes of Outland meta kinda' makes me wonder, why does Shaman always suck, when they get Totem and Control synergies? I mean, it has always been that way. Totem Shaman hasn't really ever worked, as well as Control Shaman. Basically Shaman always ends up in a tier 1, when they get some kind of new archetype, that's not Totem or Control. Jade Shamn, Shudderwock Shaman, Galakrond Shaman - these are the most well known powerful decks that Shaman had. For some reason Blizzard tries really hard to push Control Shaman into Existance but it simply doesn't work, and the only serious change that would make Totem Shaman a good deck, would be changing it's upgraded hero power to summon 2 random totems instead of a 1 of your choice. These are just my thoughts, don't mind me 😅

[@TheForhekset]

Jasper stone is must include for druid, I don't know how he missed that one it was so obviously good.

[@brycex5133]

props to trump for admitting he missed a lot this expac

[@ABeardedSage]

I like the fact that despite all the flack he gets, he never stops doing reviews and he accepts each miss as a learning experience for the next one. Eventually, we'll get a perfect review and then Hearthstone will shut down because there's nothing left to do.

[@vindikaktus]

ABeardedSage Well yeah, just because an army of captain hindsights throw him flack two months after the meta has settled he's still the best dude when it comes to reviews.

[@i_am_ergo]

Not admitting misses would be plain dumb. However, he doesn't admit them fully, which pisses me to no end. He's not dumb, but he's still a little baby when it comes to admitting mistakes.

[@cameronmiller6240]

I think overall he had a really good prediction rate though.

[@i_am_ergo]

Not really. Minus the ratings of obvious unplayable garbage, filler and overly optimistic cards - his predictions have been as mediocre as always.

[@TheCephalon]

Weird that tirion and highmane would be considered 2 or 3 star cards now because of archetypes

[@elanromaine183]

What candle shot was a staple in a tier 2 deck gave hunter bro, that’s hit got me to legend easy

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

I honestly think that instead of summon Al'akir, Windshear should have combined all 4 totems into TOTEMTRON, DEFENDER OF THE UNIVERSE! A 4 mana 7/7 with Charge and Mega-Ultra-Turbo-Super Windfury (Can attack infinity times). Or something, I dunno.

[@calebbonney4193]

Drew Armstrong, The Glorious Lobster Emperor so the old bad mech combo

[@TheCephalon]

The OTK corrupted healbot is not a meme deck. Thijs used it to get to rank 1 legend

[@imtx_xmti]

TheCephalon Thijs is the meme god,do not try to imitate him

[@cladothehobbit8290]

Also, twilight's call saw play in the weasel priest that went around, not sure if that actually became a tier 4 deck though

[@bigjuice2623]

I dont understand how is rhokdelar and to my side a sometimes card in spellhunter, those are the cards why the deck exists! If you dont have those why even have a spellhunter?

[@waxcrab]

Finally. Been waiting forever for this

[@HeloisGevit]

Ixlid sees play in a tier 1 Wild deck but 1 star rated for standard, funny how that works!

[@johnnythedark3090]

Helois Gevit he plays only standard/arena, so yea...

[@ragnarokreykr888]

I literally was looking for a video like this, fell asleep, and then bam, I woke up to this.

[@eliastav]

Man i love these trump reviews trump reviews

[@skater6511]

Why is Level Up! a rare card in this review?

[@cladothehobbit8290]

Would you ever consider doing an additional part of trump reviews Trump reviews, where you go into at the end of an expansion how cards that may have failed in standard fared in wild? I just know that I saw ixlid be 1 star here, but he turned into a defining part of the malygos druid it wild deck

[@blacklite911]

Trump used to include more asterisks for arena cards. Which to me a lot of the neutral cards in this set are designed for, there’s sooo many arena champions in this set. So I think in the future with rating the neutral cards it would be informative for people to include arena value into the rating. There’s 2 and 3 rated cards that are 5 Star in arena. Especially nowadays since there are some many people converting to arena specialists because the constructed meta gets so stale so fast.

[@Alter292]

blacklite911 arguably though this meta has been the freshest we have ever seen for an expansion. I don’t think the meta has even been really figured out yet. Pre and post patch are even two totally different worlds. It’s crazy given how Keleseth ruled and now sees virtually no play

[@alladar2010]

Can you make a video explaining how decks are determined to be TIER 1-4? Is it from a website? More than one? How many in each tier? The difference between tiers. Etc.

[@fr6976]

It is kinda surprising to see trump get a lot of these cards right actually... comparing it to other reviewers review and his previous reviews on older expansion, I do see that he is improving a lot on card reviews

[@dasistmeinnamedasistmeinna9662]

58:07 unjustified imo. I use it in constructed, it is not only fun but also really helpful. When i haven board control on turn three, i always put it on the field. A few turns later if i have it i carnivorous cube it, if i have one in my hand faceless manipulator the cube, then i have 4 shrooms, due to board limit i only get 3 one drops each turn but thats still so powerful that control and aggro decks start trading into those small little guys.

[@RoKModder]

@Jens Do you ever preemptively design the edit format for the first review video, around the second Trump Reviews Trump Reviews video which will happen in the future? Just sayin, for this video looks like Trump is nice and snug in the corner of the vid, which is really comfortable to watch :).

[@DatMageDoe]

Random Idea: Why not do a Year in Review review? Basically a larger version of a normal Trump Reviews where you review all cards leaving rotation before they leave rotation, and assess how they've risen and dropped in popularity throughout the 2 years of being in Standard. It's obviously going to be a lot of work, but it'd be really cool to see how these cards' use cases have evolved over a 2 year timeframe.

[@mitchbrook4112]

THaanks DAD TRUMP REVIEWS TRUMP REVIEWS TRUMP REVIEWS ARE MY LIFE

[@facundomoralesdiorio3802]

I'm amazed how Reynad predicted the Patches, Southsea Captain and Corridor Creeper issue correctly.

[@bordeaux1337]

Doesn't Reynad usually do his reviews after release ?

[@chuave152]

You did better than the last time imo. Good job.

[@fridtjofhattrem]

Are u doing trump vs amaz in the new expansion ?:)

[@pollyphemeus]

wait, Rohk-Delar doesn't even make the list for its own spell deck? I missed out on a decent hunter weapon related to Big hunter for that thing! and now its not even good enough?! Dammit Blizzard.

[@calvinng6792]

Polephemeus yeah, Lesser Emerals Spellstone essentially carries the deck now

[@Lors_101]

What's the point in running spell hunter then though when you can run good spells and good minions, and if the deck has minions then it's just secret hunter so it must only have a like 2 minions max

[@Gio-qu7qe]

What's the point in running minions when spells are so much better than minions?

[@vince2778]

Clayton Smith You only put in Barnes and Yash to get that combo, there are some other strong minions but non are worth ruining the consistency of the Barnes/Yash combo for

[@akhsdenlew1861]

Turns out that random hunter spells are not that good to make you win. In spell hunter, secrets and weapons will carry u in early game, and spellstone will carry the rest. And sometimes u just win with coin barnes. That's the deck. Ironically enough, The weapon and to my side are not good enough for their only deck they can be put on. Awfull job there by blizzard, however with Yasaraj getting finally removed and with new cards coming this can very easily change, so keep that in mind.

[@nexalacer]

Re: Fal’dorei Strider, pre-patch this was a potential tech in Tempo Rogue, which was a Tier 2 deck. Why only two stars?

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

I must say, I feel like the only person who thought that Cataclysm would be God awful. Let me put it this way, Warlock has tonnes of board clear. In the early game, you have Defile and Despicable Dreadlord. In the late game, you have Twisting Nether. There's not really a need for an in the middle card.

[@MitsukiMC]

jens cutted the jens scene

[@maomekat7969]

Mitsuki MC report Jens pls was best part

[@jerodast]

Wait what did Jens actually show up? All I know is that PSA was great. Scold the boss and pander to Twitch Chat at the same time haha.

[@quieness]

Some token druids still run creeper cuz you can still buff the attack to a decent amount and has high HP. I though this card would absolutly die and see play absolutly nowhere, turns out there are a liiittle bit of them around here and there.

[@TheForhekset]

Candle shot and crushing walls are still terrible, they're only played because lack of good Hunter removal. Crushing walls compared to physic scream or twisting nether, or dragon fire potion, or meteor, ect. really highlights how horrible it is. I like like playing midrange Hunter I wasnt able to make it work this exspansion because Hunter got shafted, all they got was spellstone and katerina is fun but there isn't enough good Hunter cards for a mid range Hunter. Hunter needs card draw.

[@SonikChaos]

candleshot was better pre-nerf because it enabled aggro hunter to run southsea deckhand

[@elliotdahl2986]

Ixlid was played though... shouldn’t it be 3 starts???

[@Innersoulwithinme]

To be honest, I expected terrible result, and Trump only missjuged horribly Warlock class, Cube and c.creeper. Besides that pretty accurate. And almost nobody saw c.creeper being good in reviews

[@Alter292]

Innersoulwithinme yeah the hearthstone team really just snuck it right past us with that huge neutral card dump at the end. Can’t even blame the reviewers for that

[@TzarNicco]

I crafted Master Oakheart because of Trump... damn you!

[@garrettmeep1228]

I realise this will not be read but the hunter card cave hydra, I believe was under rated I use two copies in my deck as a board clear mid-late game beside my rhino or hound master. This usually clears a large minion chain gang or other taunts easily gaining back the board. Just requires some reinforcement cards

[@Gio-qu7qe]

The deck isn't good and if you don't have a card to buff it it's a 3 mana 2/4. Not even close to being good against Tier 1 and Tier 2 decks.

[@MonkeyJazz75]

Why is Marin the Fox's Master Chest a Warlock class card? Lol

[@JaxonHaxon]

The irony, it should be '"Pre-Patches"' and 'Post-"Patches"'

[@milos1967]

"They did a really good job with druid" just wait a year trump, and they might start seeming a little worse

[@cathsaigh2197]

In my experience Feral Gibberer is actually pretty good in Arena.

[@henryst5]

Rhok’Delar isn’t run in Spell-Only Hunter?!?

[@djLagwayEnjoyer]

Henry Steinthal yea he was mixing spell only hunter with secret hunter, 2 very similar decks but very different

[@Gio-qu7qe]

Clayton Foreman No he wasn't mixing those two decks up, Rhok'Delar doesn't make the cut in lots of versions of Spell Hunter.

[@ToM92MoT]

Rhok'Delar isn't good enough for spell hunter compared to the possible highroll of Barnes into Y'shaarj turn 4

[@delirium1326]

Why did trump stop this series? 😢

[@rigjuice5022]

he rarely plays anymore and theres too many updates

[@TheSLATEcleaner]

Call to Arms is literally just Collected Company from MtG but likely better. The card is the best 4 drop in Standard, only card even close in that cost is Spellbreaker.

[@Ocara115]

Well Ixlid is the defining card for Malygos Druid in wild, and that's a tier 1 deck. I'd give it at least 4 stars.

[@Alter292]

Ocara115 he rates cards on standard play not wild :):):)

[@HighLanderPonyYT]

So, it turns out there are only about 21 cards that are must crafts competitively. Sounds good. If they keep this up every expansion you'll just have to wait a long time to get the picture and save a bunch of dust, lol. :P

[@BerylliumOxide]

Everybody thought Togwaggle was just a meme, until he wasn't.

[@HaloNeInTheDark27]

Wait, when was togwaggle not a meme?

[@BerylliumOxide]

@@HaloNeInTheDark27 When Druid was OP

[@Kristjan0209]

It still sees some wild play

[@Rainbow_Sheep]

@@Kristjan0209 and stilll today

[@Kristjan0209]

@@Rainbow_Sheep yep he back

[@richardclark7990]

guild recruiter should be 2 stars for its roll in quest druid, that's my only two cents for this video :)

[@jerodast]

Man, is this the last we're gonna see of the Creeper Trump outro? One of my favorites :'(

[@Drsteezymcgee]

Mage weapon is 3 star mostly.. Maybe 4 star at best right now

[@GolDRoger-gd8wz]

The review man OMEGALUL

[@BuzzaB77]

oh the lolz. props for doing these hindsight vids though.

[@slushyjarl5486]

Trump Twig is used in wild as is ixlid to great success!

[@PLJogging]

Isn't The Runespear played in some Shaman lists?

[@Danilego]

LOL Rhok'delar and Kathrena 2 stars? If only Trump knew the future!

[@Octolio]

In this episode: Trump is proud of himself

[@hoozentroger]

How the hell is fungal lord one star now? Its a component of the pretty decent maly druid.... gosh

[@TheForhekset]

I don't agree spell Hunter is a teir 2 deck it only does well if you draw barnes and emerald spell stone, and even then your openent might have an answer, they don't uasly but even still.

[@jarvisdx5132]

He didn't give Mill Rogue enough credit.

[@HeloisGevit]

Stoneskin basilisk sees play in a variant of Spiteful Priest, not a 1 star card.

[@Danilego]

1 star for Twig? Oh, how the meta changes

[@bestbest5284]

Thanks!

[@VarjoPira]

Trump barely managed to call Runespear a weapon, haha.

[@alexanderreusens7633]

Aah, the stars lined up this time :)

[@pokebalzzz02]

Am I the only one still confused as to why Level Up! was displayed as a rare instead of an epic?

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

Fungalmancer is 5 star, it was obvious from the card effect alone from day one, yet even after 4 months Trump only went from 1 to 3 stars...

[@DDraycon]

You should do Trump reviews trump reviews trump reviews

[@Wotplaya4]

Why are some cards not of the right rarity? Like level Up! and Drywhisker Armorer...

[@Pain420]

I like this video a lot, especially how he gives reasons for his ratings. But I wish he could explain what the "patch" was that caused the change in the ratings. I'm not that well informed, so pre-patch and post-patch don't really mean anything to me.

[@philipooi94]

during the expansion, corridor creeper was 5/5 and patches had charge.. after nerf creeper was 2/5 and patches doesn't have charge

[@Pain420]

Ok I see. But then how did the patch change Branching Paths at 3:30 from a 4 star card to a 3 star card? I don't see how the nerfs on corridor creeper or patches affect the value of that card.

[@Samuel-wl4fw]

The cards were better against the meta pre-nerf. There were a lot more aggression so defensive druid with those cards had an higher win rate.

[@philipooi94]

Ethan Zhao he rates the card based on the meta. So before the nerf, most of the decks had really powerful aggressive tools, making branching paths better cause armour I guess. After the nerf, decks got a lot slower, while many still run2 branching paths, some people cut 1. It’s a good example of how a few changes to really powerful cards can vastly shift the whole meta, affecting the play rate of many other cards other than itself. I think he gets most of these play rates stats from a hs stat site so check there

[@Nikike999]

How is Ixlid one star when it is played in Maly Druid, which was at times a decent deck?

[@proface5209]

laughterline That's a wild deck, these are standard ratings

[@Nikike999]

No, it is not a wild deck, it's both a standard and a wild deck.

[@proface5209]

laughterline In Standard it's a really low tier deck, so in standard it's 1 star

[@Nikike999]

proface nah, it used to be a tier 2-3 deck pre-nerf. He gave Kathrena 2 stars, and she only saw niche play in meme decks

[@proface5209]

laughterline sorry man, but it wasnt tier 2 or even 3 pre patch