truth about ISKCON (morning walks in australia)

[@TheVedicStudent]

Srila Prabhupada is the Best master in modern time. He was blessed by Lord Krsna himself to spread this movement at such an old age he did he must had Krsna blessing Jaya!

[@radhikawiszomirski]

dont be blind!Have U ever met or read others then prabhupad?

[@penlight5289]

@@radhikawiszomirski Yes I have met other Gaudiya Math Guru's but they don't like the title " Prabhupada " for A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, But Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami Maharaj has said that this sort of accusing may come on Swami Maharaj, taking the name of his own Guru and also deviating from his Guru because some in the Gaudiya Math couldn't see the Spirit within his missionary activities. Actually Sridhar Maharaj said that others Godbrothers may feel differently about him taking the title Prabhupada but I don't feel like that. Sridhar Maharaj goes on to say that he received the title Prabhupada from higher Authorities. For more information you can read my other comment in the comments section

[@GAURHARIBOL]

Wait a second maharaj never said Anything bad about isckon! Why 🤔 people are criticising each other in comments?

[@umeshvlogs3722]

If we don't have sufficient understanding shouldn't judge anyone .

[@caitanyadas1769]

Jaya Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga! My dear brothers we must be very careful when speaking about High class Vaisnavas. Srila B.V Narayan goswami maharaj was selected by Srila Prabhupada himself to place him in samadhi. You can all hear or read their last conversation where Srila Prabhupada ask Srila Narayan Maharaj to instruct his disciples and that they should preach together now. Srila Prabhupada was always exchanging letters with him and if you read those letters, specially the first one from the book letters from America, you will be surprise of how much love they have for each other. Srila Narayan Maharaj testified in favor of ISKCON in such a way that he was able to win the court case which the son of Srila Prabhupada had placed agains ISKCON to take all the properties and place in the name of the family as a business. He defeated one by one all the arguments placed by the son and he was also witness of the sannyasa cerimony of Prabhupada. He also helped ISKCON Candrodaya mandir in the beginning of the preaching in Mayapur when the temple was closed due to attacks from locals. He spoke with the police and eventually they put in jail all those trouble makes who had also stolen the Deities and he personally went shop by shop in search of the Deities, found them and placed back in the temple. And there is much more. Srila Prabhupada was very pleased with him and he gave him the topmost honor by selecting him to place his Divine body in samadhi in the presence of many of his God brothers and disciples. Srila Narayan Maharaj extensively glorified Srila Prabhupada, protected his mission and inspired many devotes who had left Krsna consciousness to come back. He is really a well wisher of ISKCON, therefore so many Prabhupada disciples took his shelter and also sannyasa from him. He was never against the original ISKCON but against the deviations which led to the fall down of many leaders, sannyasis and Gurus afterwards. Srila Prabhupada always remember him as he says- ``there is no chance of we forgetting each other. Our relationship is certainly base on spontaneous love.`` This is just a small part of the letter I mentioned above. Please forgive any offences.

[@ziggyschumann5284]

Chaitanya dasa, You're funny. Are you not aware that Narayan M. re-initiated many of Prabhupada disciples. Completely bogus and un-authorised. What a Joke ! " You are what you do, everything else is talk." Haribol

[@spiritsoul11108]

@@ziggyschumann5284 PAMHO, AGTSP, it was long time ago, i v had seen many SP disp. in maya, spiritusl ptsp or strugling and THEY APPROACHED HIM for 2. Iniciation...is not reiniciation as " official media" was presenting it... It s better to know both sides of futes or you may never discover " the other side of the coin" Or pls mind your own BHAKTI... " I offer my respects to ALL devotees of the Lord, who are like DESIRE THREES... ...," YS.

[@ziggyschumann5284]

@@spiritsoul11108 Hare Krishna All glories to Srila Prabhupada Please accept my obeisances. Just to let you know, I had the supreme fortune to be in Srila Prabhupada's glorious association on several occasions, in 1973, 74 and 76. Around 13 yrs. ago, I was in Vrndavan and met a devotee, his name was Vrndavan dasa, coincidently, and he was a disciple of Narayan Maharaj. Despite knowing that I was a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, ( Janmahara dasa is the name Prabhupada gave me in Jan 1977) he was constantly trying to convert me to join their camp, go to their classes, etc.He was a timid soul, controlled by his wife and really believed he had my best interest at heart.I repeatly told him I was very happy and content with Prabhupada but to no avail. One day he gave me a big book written by Narayan. Now, for whatever reason, throughout my whole life I have only read Prabhupada's books and was content to stay that way. Anyways he was so insistent that I accepted the book, even though I knew I wasn't going to read it. Believe it or not, the next morning I was going to return the book and somehow or other, It had completely DISAPPEARED out of the tiny room apt. Lord Krishna is so merciful, he fulfilled my desires without me having to offend Vrndavan dasa by returning the book to him.So from my experience, Narayan was having his disciples aggressively recruiting Prabhupada disciples and if any of them were weak in their conviction and love for Prabhupada, "they" were there to guide them to Narayan. The whole experience left a bad taste in my mouth and after watching several videos of Narayan, I can clearly see that I was protected by the Lord, bc, a pure devotee, HE IS NOT. Haribol

[@gauranga1008]

@@ziggyschumann5284 Thank you for your story Janmahara Prabhu. Your servant Alalanath das

[@devarsi]

so what is the truth about Iskcon, it does not say?

[@signeduplate]

i agree. HDGAC stated that his godbrothers were demons, 4th class men, who were jealous and did not approve of him preaching all over the world

[@kiwicooldaddy]

Thos ewho have been in ISKCON long enough know the truth about ISKCON, and it certainly is not "ABSOLUTE TRUTH":)

[@radhikawiszomirski]

pure truth!

[@narayansivajiramos999]

"because in ISKCON today ..." But why this cliffhanger? HA NITAI!🤣

[@nityadas8512]

i dont know why people put material consciousness in judging vaisnavas, it is all spiritual , what will they do of fame , money , give to their children?

[@miroscepko]

I like your comment!I don't see any differences do you? Hari and Rama nama satyahe and if "SATYAM" I misspell then that goal which is Krsna prema is going to be nearly impossible to achieve. Yours in service Maekandeyarishi das

[@shriranaji5411]

Bewakoof mat bnao logo ko Prabhupad is the best and iskcon is also the best organization

[@penlight5289]

Srila A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada deviated from Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur in Form but not in Spirit Similarly Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Prabhupada deviated from Srila Bhaktivinode Thakur in Form but not in Spirit Below are a transcription of a Conversation with Srila Bhakti Rakshak Sridhar Dev-Goswami Maharaj . Reference is : KZbin Video - Srila B.R Sridhar Dev-Goswami Maharaj - Nuestro Amado Guardian . Go to 1:45 minute on video Our Guru Maharaj Did ; then to the Sanyasi. Swami Maharaj ( A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada ) deviated from that , but I; Though other Godbrothers they Feel something different, I don't Feel so Because he was more Grand range in magnitude and circumstance was also very different than that of India. So this sort of freedom he must have to adjust with the circumstances, given the nature. ..... " Unclear Audio" This Latitude he must, should enjoy. Enjoy means He must found such inspiration from within for greater recommendation. So naming and so many things are different. But we have to see the Spirit within not the outer thing And Prabhupada ( Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur Prabhupada ) also formerly, He seemed to deviate from Bhaktivinode Thakur Bhaktivinode Thakur laid stress on the household life and he was very much afraid of the renounced life. Life of renunciation. .... That may be very grieved and serious and may be reactionary But Prabhupada, He came with such an organisation. .... He get some chance for what is not generally available. ... That Vaishnava Seva .... Vaishnava association..... Sadhu sanga What is the most indispensable necessity in the life of a Sadhaka.... That is Sadhu Sanga. He made arrangement with Sadhu Sanga available to many. And so He took bold step to collect persons from different stages, To draw them in and give them chance of Divine service under the guidance of a Vaishnava. .... Vaishnava Seva Always hearing, Always engagement And so his deviation from Bhaktivinode Thakur was Amply compensated by other aspects. So that deviation is no deviation in Spirit but in Form Swami Maharaj also had deviation formerly in many cases But the Spirit is intact there . Who have eye to see that, they will embrace them (Iskcon). Otherwise others will murmur That he took the name of Prabhupada, Himself, of his Guru His Guru had reverence for Bhaktivinode Thakur's name And he has given this Vivekananda RamaKrishna Mission. They generally use this Ananda in the Sanyasi..... But our Prabhupada did not , so deviation from Prabhupada All this sort of accusing may come on Swami Maharaj, Deviation from his own Guru. ........ But one who has got eye to see the Spirit within. He won't care for this change in Formality. He will see the inner thing and not the external And one who has got such a High degree of distributing Himself. He must be given by the Higher Authority some Latitude; Magnitude of extending himself in some Original way

[@Kumar-mn4tn]

srila Prabhupada is prabhupada As nobody can be as like as Krishna, Krishna is Krishna. There fore pls don't commit offences on srila prabhupada lotus feet. He is only ACHARYA who fulfilled Mahaprabhu's prediction by the order of his Spiritual master. If you great great Souls were there why didn't come for preaching in west before initiation of ISKCON. Now after Iskcon preaching n after SRILA Goura Govinda swami MAHARAJ dissapearance you r preaching with Prabhupad's men only n criticising him .it's so bad !!!!!!.Mahaprabhu wouldn't excuse .

[@lotoneroblu]

words words words...but in fact he was a beatle

[@rahla53]

why his own servant keeps interrupting? no respect, they do not know respect among themselves, what to speak about respecting others...

[@stageofsilence]

Yes a living guru is always on the Planet. Also, it needs a living Guru. I agree. But NM has acted as if no guru in Iskcon.

[@gettuff2]

If Srila Prabhupada said all in ISKCON were nonsense, would you believe Him?

[@ziggyschumann5284]

Boy oh boy, did people claim he was a pure devotee ? If so, they couldn't be further from the truth. I can feel his mundane vibration from here. Prabhupada warned us about these guys...

[@gauranga1008]

Ziggy Schumann But who is this Maharaja? Thank you

[@ziggyschumann5284]

@@gauranga1008 Hare Krishna All glories to Srila Prabhupada Narayan is a God brother of Srila Prabhupada Srila Prabhupada warned his disciples about visiting the Gaudiya Math ( his godbrothers ) bc there was jealousy over Srila Prabhupada's success and fame.Unfortunately many Iskconites have disobeyed Prabhupada's instructions and have done the opposite, even accepting being initiated a 2nd time by Narayan and receiving a new name. Completely bogus practice, hence a bogus guru. Haribol

[@gauranga1008]

@@ziggyschumann5284 Hare Krishna Prabhu, thank you for nice explanation.

[@Gouranga60]

'I can feel' - very significant point, indeed. Nothing more than your opinion. Narayan Maharaj is a star, uttama Mahabhavata, millenium acarya. He was a close friend of Srila Prabhupad and even was a priest in His samadhi ceremony. He also did all the rituals in Prapbhupads sannyas ceremony. Many many facts can be posted, but Im sure its not interesting for a person, who 'can feel'.

[@ziggyschumann5284]

@@Gouranga60 Yes, and Narayan Maharaja also said that Prabhupada only taught the " A,B,C,'s of spiritual knowledge. He also re-initated Prabhupada disciples and gave them spiritual names. Anyways, believe what you want, whatever makes you happy. Haribol

[@Gatida]

Does he know every single devotee in ISKCON?? I do not think so. He should be careful not to criticize to much unconsciously. Is every single disciple of him a pure devotee?? I don't think so and I know it isn't like that at all by experiance. There are more things to say...

[@stageofsilence]

I know personally people they are reinitiated by Narayana Maharaja although their Gurus are still alive and initiated Gurus. How is this possible in the vaisnavatradition? God luck with your Gurudev. p.s. Im sorry but i can not be silent anymore.

[@ziggyschumann5284]

Hare Krishna All glories to Srila Prabhupada Yes, prabhu, looking at videos of Narayan and personally being in Srila Prabhupada's association several times, it's quite clear, this Narayan is NOT a pure devotee and anyone who thinks so, is bewildered by Maya.

[@lotoneroblu]

this men was evil....i never like him.....

[@harshpandey2713]

Atleast resepct him ,for the title of bhaktivedanta he had

[@harshpandey2713]

I know he had blame shrila prabhupada and never respect Iskcon but this is not the way to treat a vaishnava

[@Gouranga60]

😁😁😁

[@Noone-jw5nj]

@@harshpandey2713 he didn't blaspheme SP