Trying Clipless Pedals For The First Time! (SHOCKING)

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We love using flat pedals on our mountain bike but we have always been curious how clipless pedals feel! So we head to Crankbrothers to swap out our flat pedals for some new Mallet E clipless pedals and see what all the hype is about! What do you think, clipless or flat pedals?
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[@marcogonzaba3141]

I just started watching your videos. I love the stoke you guys bring🤘 You got me thinking about going for the plunge and going clip less. Keep up the great work!

[@mikemorris3028]

First went clip less from toe cages in ‘97 with Ritchie Logic pedals, loved them and still run them on the trainer. About 5 years ago switched to Egg Beaters. Heading to Moab tomorrow and will be riding flats for the first time at the encouragement of my son, who may switch to my egg beaters for racing in the fall.

[@markking8274]

Flats for me. I rode clipless for several years, but as my riding progressed, not being able to eject/hop off the bike any time made me start riding more cautiously on sketchy stuff, which resulted in crashes and a lot of frustration.

[@nickv3085]

It’s extremely easy to unclip lol

[@markking8274]

@@nickv3085 ha! Not for me. I got pretty good at un clipping but not great.

[@abstraddic0442]

Great video guys ! I come off my bike too much to attempt to clip in. great job !!! Flats, flats , Flats !

[@barbbrazes869]

Awesome! Love Mo and Hannah!

[@stevencole8880]

I've been riding clipless pedals for 30 years now after riding flats for BMX, and then toe clips. Recently, I decided to try flats on my mountain bike to see if there was a higher level of comfort and control. I hated them, as it was a significant downgrade with climbing, handling, and sprinting. I've never had any issues with getting out of clipless pedals in the case of a crash, taking a high-speed turn, or when coming to a stop. If you have issues with getting out of clipless pedals, then chances are that you have them set up wrong; either the tension on the pedals is too tight or you may need to carve away some rubber away where the pedal engages to the shoe as this could be where you might feel a hangup. The bottom line is ride flats if that is where your comfort level is. However, if you want to improve your climbing and sprinting (both of which make the trails flow easier), then go clipless; just be prepared for a short learning curve at the beginning, and soon they become second nature and confidence-inspiring.

[@boonerichardson1639]

I ride both! Started out riding xc, so naturally I learned to Mtb being clipped in. A few years later I picked up flat pedals as I got into free ride. That transition was terrifying, but I earned a lot from the switch. Now I can ride either. Preference is clipped for trail riding. Flats for doing high consequence stuff or high chance of need to ditch the bike. Clipless for virtually everything else.

[@ianrice1778]

I ran clipless on my road bike but on my mtb I'm not sure but I'll try it when I get the urge. Keep up the good work guys!

[@stinthedude]

Flats for over 20 years, tried clips a few times but couldn't commit. Last year went one full season on clipless and now I love it. Crank bros on 6 of my 7 bikes lol 🤙

[@barbbrazes869]

I ride clip in. Would like to try flats some time! Love your channel!!

[@mat2ca578]

Clips for me. Really liked the design of the Mallets. Bought a piar but had to many problems un-clipping due to the pins hanging up in the treads of my shoes and the extra rotation beyond float to un-clip. This extra rotation all so hurt my knees. Have tried two different shoes and tread patterns (no CrankBrother Mallet shoes) and still had problems. After several months I changed to Shimano XT platforms and shimmed the cleat using the CrankBrothers process. Happy knees and less ah crap due to hangups on the pedals. I have learned since I either need to cut grooves to allow the pins to rotate through the tread or consider the pins wearing their own groove as part of a very extended break in period for shoes. For reference I have been MTB with Strap less toe clips , strapped toe clips and SPD for 30+ years and road biking clip and clip-in for 35 years.

[@SprSonik13]

clipless for everything (trail, park, Enduro racing, etc…) since the early 90s. With experience, you can get in and out of them just as fast as you can get off and on flats, and you can still drop your heel just like you do with flats, you just don’t have to worry about your feet bouncing around. but many of my friends ride flats and they swear by them. it really comes down to trying them both and riding what works best for you.

[@travisray8594]

Same here

[@GOTCHAPARK]

Ok Thanks a lot you two! Now I have to try clips!

[@allanridesbikes5856]

Flats for sure. Though, I've been considering putting clipless on my XC bike.

[@wgnwheels333]

I did 12 years on flats before going clips and have been on clips 4 years.flats did teach me better peddling technique

[@jacquesduplessis6175]

Been riding clips for years and years.... started trying out flats yesterday!!!! Gotta think back to BMX days which is fine, but the first jump was sooo scary😂

[@tracymcmanus550]

I’ve ridden both. I definitely think everyone should start on flats. They help develop your technique. Clipless are great for flowy and down hill trails that aren’t too gnarly. I’m back on flats because my main trail is chunky tech and it’s difficult to try to climb from a stopped position and try to clip in

[@peterduncan9277]

Good to know both. I like flats for 1) learning bike skills (manualing, bunny hop, anything you need to bail out on) 2) more grounded feel to pedal especially for turns where you can use body english and not have to worry about keeping your foot on the pedal in the range of the clipless float 3) easier to put a foot down 4) nice to be able to wear flat shoes after riding and not change into non-riding shoes. I do not like flats because 1) pins can rip shins and calves when putting foot down 2) if you are sensitive to consistent foot placement, can be annoying to have to keep micro adjusting to get foot back to where you want it 3) not as efficient for climbing 4) Easier for foot to come off pedal when you hit square rocks in tech climbing. I like clips 1) will not rip shins and calves 2) foot is always in same place 3) Have that extra up pull when you need it 4) stay on pedals during techy sections both up and down. Don't like clips 1) training skills 2) hard to get back in (sometimes) in steep sections 3) as good as people say they are, you can still get "stuck" if you crash unexpectedly which can lead to a bigger injury than if you can just put a foot down. I know you guys say you don't like Shimano, but the multi-release SPD cleats (the silver ones) are the shit. Very easy to unclip even at a slight angle vs. having to go sideways. The black ones force you to unclip sideways, which is tough if you are in the process of falling.

[@bennysh]

All my recent years crashes were a result of not being able to eject in time. I'm still clipped-in and avoiding dangerous stuff, but was considering flats for a while.

[@MrEphillip]

I just put on clipless pedals after only doing flats. I liked the feel and extra climbing energy.

[@KestrelYI]

Flats! BMX as a kid and have always done it. Played a little with the old toe clips / strap as a kid but... Prefer to be less attached just in case I need to bail :)

[@BWT599]

Hustle Bike Labs for da win (dual magnets on a swivel within a flat pedal). Waiting patiently for them to arrive as they solve all my issues with both clipless and flats. Love clipless going uphill and clean single track, love flat pedals in technical trails with endless rock gardens and crossing skinnies over water. Don't miss falling onto my hip in clipless coz I couldn't clip out in time and don't miss adding scars to my shins from pedal strikes 😁🤣😝

[@superawesomefuntimego]

So far I've still not gotten comfortable on clips. I do appreciate feeling locked in on high speed chattery sections that bounce you around hard, but on wet and slippery rocks and roots in the PNW where I sometimes need to get a foot down instantly, I just am not quick enough in clips and they cause wrecks. With more practice I am sure I'd get it figured out, but with awesome flat's like my Tenet Occults and some sticky Five 10's or Ride Concept Helion Elites, I have not had a foot accidentally bounce off the pedals in at least a year.

[@AnthonyOrtega-ki4mx]

Glad y’all made the switch, once I went to clipless I never went back

[@rascal1234]

I run both, also both flats and clips. I also have both CB and spds. I find CB easier to get out of in an emergency, but spds easier to get into. That said, I still prefer flats, esp for technical riding and jumps.

[@TooMuchBike]

I run both as well. For long XC or gravel rides, I use clipless, but for techy, rooty, rocky rides where a quick eject is beneficial, I go with flats. The challenge is climbing a steep rooty section and getting hung up on a root or rock and try to unclip, panic and then fall over.

[@ryandillon2097]

Sooo just received my mallet e and crank bros shoes today funny your vid just came out, never rode “clipped in” before rode around my yard for about an hour got comfortable with them tried one of my local trails beat my fastest time by 3 seconds! On the ride home stoked on them and my time forgot to unclip in my driveway fell over into my jeep broke my brake lever off, wife saw the whole thing don’t even need to make up an excuse as to why I need to upgrade my brake levers now! So clip in for the win for me!! And new Flo levers!! 😎

[@SprSonik13]

just installed Flo lever on my Yeti. They are awesome!

[@altabajacalifornia7133]

I’ve tried both and both have pros and cons. I did notice though that the spills when you’re clipped in are worst. Like I can bail out easier with flats! To me the pedaling efficiency and that glued to the bike feeling aren’t worth it 😄

[@oldschooldude3500]

I've been riding clipless for a long time and love it. Justed the tension to my liking and just ride. Never think about being clipped in.

[@ianfurqueron5850]

I run both, depending on my mood. I started out on BMX 40+ years ago so flats are instinctual, but I've run clipless for over 30 years. My jumping is generally better with flats, so I usually run flats at bike parks. For trail riding and racing, usually clipless. On the road, always clipless - although I also started out with toe clips (along with the cleats that slotted onto the rear part of the pedal - those were really brutal to get out of).

[@georgebailey6307]

40+ years ago in BMX?? Us Old Dogs still have some fight in our hearts don't we? 💪👍

[@ianfurqueron5850]

@@georgebailey6307 I try. Don't always succeed, but I try.

[@georgebailey6307]

@@ianfurqueron5850 If we don't attempt it then we'll never know Victory brothers. We go out there and give it all we can and at the end of the ride or day, we went out there and kicked all the ass we could! Just like when we go to work with a sore knee, hurt back, or the lady left and we still make it happen. Wow I got deep huh? haha, cheers Friends..

[@andrewmaljaars2693]

Love my Mallet E, but had to run the extended spindle as my feet are too wide. I'd often hit the crank and be unable to unclip, resulting in a tip.

[@saddleweary5760]

I still ride toe clips every now and then on a 85 road bike. There's good and bad with flats and clipless but I've been injured on clipless where if I'd been on flats I think I could have bailed better. One thing to think about is if you ride clipless long enough you might not be able to jump with flats anymore, that's the only reason I don't switch back to flats but I've been clipless for seven years. Every time I put on flat pedals I come home with blood soaked socks from shin strikes, so if you switch it may be hard to switch back. I know if I could do it over again I would've never go clipless but at the time it was the thing to do because everyone else was doing it. Love y'all

[@jseski9209]

been clipless (or clip-in as the crankbros call it) for 30 years. Like the one dude said, more stability/security downhill, more power-transfer on uphills. The only times I run flats (or, I have one set of pedals that are clips on one side, flat on the other) is for trials-type riding or features. Under speed, & normal riding, clipping in is WAY better (once you get used to it). good vid, guys

[@davesharp5472]

Started with clipless but now I’m older and I ride for fun and exercise. Flats are just easy and fun and reminds me of being a kid riding. I’m not trying to break any records.

[@lukedegriselles3220]

I ride flats all day long (other than my road bike) I usually ride in pretty muddy areas and being able to easily through a foot out is a must in Washington st.

[@certifiedlawnpros]

I ran clipless for 15+ years then developed some knee pain. I tried out flats and my knee pain disappeared. Being able to move and adjust my foot position on the pedal is key.

[@controller2152]

I’ve only run flats and I don’t know if I would love clipped in. Do y’all still run flats or did y’all make the switch. Dave… Keep the Great videos coming.

[@talkmauro]

Man just started riding clipped in … freaks me out a bit especially on sketchy stuff and need to get out quick. Using crank bros shoes and mallets too. Much less confident than flats but pedaling up is better.

[@schadlarry]

It all depend on the pedal. Used the Frogs for a long time but the cleats wore out very fast and aren't cheap. Went to a Shimano and set the tension to the easiest setting. No problem getting out. Other pedals are horrible. Tried the egg beaters but f. that.

[@abuckcat]

I didn't see any emergency get offs did you have any and if so how did it turn out

[@bigrat6099]

For me (a XC racer) having clip less is a Necessary but if I’m just shredding with the boys the flats are coming out :)

[@sjaan7370]

So did you guys have many or any dab/bail moments where you just had to put a foot down? If so, how did that work out?

[@z-pac5238]

Both always and forever!

[@BMXPete]

I run clips on my xc bike because they just keep me locked in on chattery sections of trail. Also when it it’s sloppy and wet as it usually does here in West Virginia. My feet aren’t sliding all over the place. My down hill bike has flats. I am more of free rider on that side and want to do tricks.

[@jeffjacksonmtb8236]

I'm coming to Mission Viejo this Thursday-Saturday and would love to know what trails you rode in this video. I heard Stairstep, but what were the other ones? I've been on clips for 9 months and it feels like 9 years. Got used to them quickly, and I love the extra power in technical climbing and I like the consistency of having my feet in the same exact place all the time.

[@jeffjacksonmtb8236]

Oh! I just saw you included the trails in the description! Thanks!!! Rock-It and Stairstep!

[@tman7449]

There are so many great trails there. Park near Canyon View Park. If you already rode it, what trails did you hit? What did you think?

[@jeffjacksonmtb8236]

@@tman7449 I rode Rock-It, Stairsteps, and Lynx with Mo and Hannah on Thursday last week. Great ride! The trails were a bit rutted out, but that made it all the more interesting. Mo and Hannah were super cool to let me tag along with them. I made a short video about it on my channel.

[@tman7449]

@@jeffjacksonmtb8236 so cool! I'll check it out.

[@teddysnaps4786]

Made the switch to clips because my knees started to hurt. Now that my feet are in the same spot no matter what it's eliminated knee pain.

[@TedSchoenling]

XC riding here and clipless.. run plain eggbeaters now.. use to run candy's but traded them out.

[@Onecogmike]

Crank brother’s enduro mallet with easy release cleats. Shimano me7 shoes

[@moandhannahtravel]

Solid combo!!!

[@goride365]

It’s like being clipped in like snowboarding but you can bail haha

[@jeffrogers2180]

Been clipless for 25 years, not being attached to the pedals to me would be like not holding onto the handlebars very well.

[@stanmustard7292]

You'd be surprised, I rode clipless for decades before I tried flats. They're much better for technical riding. It's not that hard to adjust, and you'll be a better, more well rounded rider for it. Just remember to keep your heels down.

[@jeffrogers2180]

@@stanmustard7292 For the riding I do, XC on Phoenix trails, clipless works best.

[@bigrat6099]

I’m in between some time I use them some times I don’t

[@erikh7557]

Grew up on BMX bikes in late 70's, road the Murray Baja Cruiser in the mid-80s, then onto "real" mountain bikes starting in the early 90s. Had clipless for about 7 years, but bailed on them for flats about 5 years ago. Never been faster.

[@PhilipH570]

Flats. Only flats. Race Face Ride pedals with Vans Ultra Range shoes. Best combo for trail and gravel.

[@tman7449]

I've been riding clipless for 8 years and just switched to flats. Only have 3 ride on flats. I'm getting the hang of it, but the first couple rides had me very uncomfortable. I like flats for steep technical stuff, but prefer clip-ins for jumps and rock gardens. Just got an ebike so don't really need to be clipped in to climb.

[@sacdubro]

Clipless on my road and mtb always. I've been riding clipless for many years,

[@michaelobrien4351]

Flats. Crankbrothers Stamp 1.

[@moandhannahtravel]

Awesome pedals!

[@davidshuttleworth415]

Clip ins but will be trying flats to learn some new techniques

[@BudoDave76]

My heels come up too much on couples and throws off traction, center of gravity and ultimately my confidence lol That being said, was a Roadie for years and races XC. Switched to flats as and experiment and it took about 4 months to adapt. Will never go back to clipless for trail and park riding.

[@allenrichards5086]

I ride both, the security of clipless allows for more aggressive riding as you don't have to think about your feet at all. Flats are more for fun riding versus fast riding for me, though flat pedals do indeed win medals. Sam Hill is GOAT.

[@thim8009]

Been riding flats since 1975, I don't think I'm going to change now.

[@meganNefarious]

DUDE!! You guys need to go visit the folks at Hustle! I haven't been able to shut up about their REM pedals since I got them lol.. Total game changer!! There are other magnetic pedals on the market but they're pretty cheesy... the Hustle pedals are totally legit!... Improves your riding SO much without the fear of not being able to unclip.. I'll be expecting a video soon hahaha.... Seriously....you really need to give these things a try..

[@gutierrezmtb8583]

Rock it was a perfect practice trail!!!

[@50whatnomadtravelnursemtb5]

I just can't seem to get the hang of riding flats, and can't keep my feet planted on them...they fly off on jumps and bumps...and it's harder to climb.So I've always run clipless since the 90's.

[@jacob.rausch]

i run clats. flats one side, clips on the other. its easy to switch between them because im used to it, and because the extra metal on the clip side weighs it down i can still take my foot off in a loose turn or something with the flats staying up

[@rethridermtb3262]

I used to ride exclusively clipped in, but in 2020 I did a skills clinic for which the coach recommended that we ride flats. His reasoning, which makes total sense, is that riding flats requires the rider to use more correct techniques, where clips allow a rider to "cheat" a little bit. He also said that by riding and progressing on flats, a rider will become even more efficient and proficient when clipped in. There was definitely a learning curve and some blood was shed on the back of my legs, but I now ride mountain bike almost exclusively on flats, but do clip in for XC races, gravel and road riding..

[@wumbobo]

I think this little “cheat” thing is only true when you first start doing jumps, etc. If you’ve ever tried to just pull up on your clips, you’ll notice that you don’t actually get that high or that much movement. Once you start hitting bigger jumps, you’re kind of forced to learn the correct technique. But then again, when people switch to clips, they’ve usually learned how to do that by then…

[@theshadowshop]

I’ve run clipless for 30 years. Started on the road bike snd have been on a version of clipless for years. So I think it’s how you start and what you get use to.

[@KelMTB]

I am about to do the switch as well starting Tuesday ... waiting for my pedals. I will be using MagPed Magnetic Pedals. I hope I'll like it the way you guys did.

[@moandhannahtravel]

Those sound interesting!!

[@meganNefarious]

Bro! Send those things back and get the Hustle REM pedals... Your mind will be blown...they are so amazing...those magpeds are kind of cheesy in comparison..lol..

[@KelMTB]

@@meganNefarious I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

[@jerry2968]

I ride flats with good flat pedal shoes. I would have major anxiety at having to eject clipped in.

[@scottibass]

I'm old enough to remember the clip pedals. I'm still scared to be tied to the bike despite the advancement of clipless

[@NDemanuele1]

Flats for Life! I've attempted Clipless back in the 90s when I started and couldn't get used to them! To this day I think Flats are safer for MTB. However, I'm sure clipless are more adjustable these days.

[@meganNefarious]

Give the Hustle REM pedals a try! They are amazing! Total game changer!

[@rmack611]

Mo should try the dh version with hi big ass feet lol

[@Striveon247]

Mo are still ridding clipless?

[@guipinckaerts2555]

Maybee, you can Get some magped Clip pedalls

[@razmtb5028]

awesome!

[@gabyleux]

Now I understand why they’re called “clipless.” Grazie.

[@duanevigue1603]

No clips on my MTB. I ride way too aggressive and need to be able to bail in a second without thinking about it. I know people will say pro's use clips, and some do, but Im not a pro either. lol On my TT bike I use clips.

[@norcalchrismeister]

Clipless pedals are a little scary at first but you get used to them and not think about them after awhile. I climb way better with clipless pedals and they make me feel one with the bike. I have fallen a few times from not unclipping fast enough but I still wouldn't go back to flats.

[@rmack611]

I prefer the easy release after running the normal for a couple years

[@tomf3713]

Safety first! Flat petal is easy

[@mikerutledge5825]

Broke my collarbone after not being able to get out of spds. Broke it again the next year on flats. Would have been worse the second time clipped in, flats all the way

[@Monkeyrobb]

Been clipped in since 89.

[@robertmarkus7007]

What is Hannah's new helmet?

[@moandhannahtravel]

It’s a specialized Tactic!

[@jeffp5418]

Flats for the win

[@ringo666]

I ran Time ATACs for a dozen years; then an injury forced me to change the whole way I was riding, and I found myself on flats. That was 7 years ago, I'm still on flats (with pins), and riding the same forced way (3 joint replacements in 2 years). I still have my Times, and a set of Shimano shoes set up and ready to go IF I recover that much. I miss clipless, because the riding experience was SYMBIOTIC -- it was like the bike was talking to me! I miss that.

[@Falasi4]

80's BMX was all about the flats. As an adult riding for fitness and racing (road, track, marathon XC mtb, Cyclocross, and a return to BMX) all about clipped in. Whole myth about being stuck to the bike or not being able to get out comes from dated and/or poorly adjusted equipment. Also teaching SPIN for over 15 years, 0 students have gone back to flats after getting the hang of maxing out efficiency with clipless That being said, if it takes flats to get someone out riding then go for it.

[@smith42066]

I ride clipless crank brother mallet on everything and will not ride without them

[@huntnman]

I'll just put it this way.... no one ever said, "well, I fell because I couldn't get my foot off my flat pedal quick enough."

[@thebushwacker72]

Love my mallet E LS peddles. I feel naked without them

[@moandhannahtravel]

Love those pedals!!!

[@thebushwacker72]

Anything from trail riding to riding park. They just feel perfect

[@tmerrick24]

Flats for me and for some reason clipless people are my enemy, like i ride 27.5 and I'm angry at 26 and 29ers. Until I try those other things and switch sides.

[@jontg429]

Clipless man!

[@tomatostakefabrik9429]

Flat pedals wins medals

[@Icamas]

Flats for fun and jibs, Clips for speed

[@eloyduran4470]

Flats 4 life. When it's time 2 bail that bike, it's time in a split second flash..

[@grn9209]

Flats👊🏼

[@turnoverace6796]

Ride cliped in. Like the feal and control. riding with normal sneakers to just go to the store now just feels wrong

[@wills4343]

Shimano SPD for 30+ years, wouldn't ride without them.

[@moandhannahtravel]

That’s some good time experience! 😂

[@southdowntim]

Clips, but CB needs a power meter

[@Bangbangboom51]

clip-in are all good until you get that thud where your feet trained for years unclipping just wouldn't move correctly and you smash the ground.

[@moandhannahtravel]

Ouch!!!

[@AFugax]

Clips…and I agree the term ‘clipless’ is over. Death clips are dead and a thing of the past. I ride flats in snow, but clips for most other riding…and they have ruined me for jumping! I agree with if you are learning, especially if your gonna be a jumper, go with flats to learn proper technique…then switch to clips later for other reasons.

[@lifebehindbars8504]

Clipless are good and have benefits for cadence and climbing. I rode them for 20 years. I switched to flats 3 years ago and never looked back. So much more ability for me through the knar, big stuff and sketchy stuff. When clipped in, crashes can get ugly at high speeds. You also risk knee and foot injury.

[@deebater5298]

Hmm - you guys clearly new that trail very well and had masses of confidence that you could make it through the rock gardens without coming off - hence why no knee pads, elbow pads or even gloves. So I don't think you were that nervous really.