Trying to Beat People in Melee with an SNES Controller

[@zenithSSBM]

Also, its in the description already, but I wanted to mention I was asked to create a Discord server so if anyone has interest in it, the link is here: discord.gg/SUkYeS6 I want to use it to engage with all of you answering questions, playing Melee, having discussions, etc. Its still new but hoping that it becomes something productive!

[@billyboo2864]

YO my man you should try the 8Bitdo SN30 (i think). It's a SNES controller but has 2 joysticks. It's also like £20 cheaper than the Switch pro controller (which would also make a great video ;) )

[@vivianprime9]

Hey how do you connect an map out button layouts for the controllers

[@Monochromicornicopia]

Why are you holding the controller in such an awkward and unnatural way?

[@themaskedlucas]

Hey man, I just wanna know you're opinion on the new gamecube controller from power a.

[@renos654]

@@Monochromicornicopia so that (normally) he can jump and use the c-stick at the same time without having to move his thumb around the controller

[@HyperGlameow]

Best way to play melee is the power button on my PC

[@iCollectCans]

No way! i would jv5 you by deleting System32

[@HyperGlameow]

@@iCollectCans not if I had downloaded my melee iso from a sketchy website

[@balllord8580]

1v1 me Windows 98 no Sys32

[@JacobKinsley]

Best way to play melee is the on button on my shower

[@user-ey9bf9bz1o]

I play it with my psu on/off switch

[@JacobKinsley]

If this game originally came out with a snes controller we'd end up with a bunch of people saying "this controller is probably the best controller that's ever been made."

[@JacobKinsley]

@@Augmental_Art woah dude sorry

[@balllord8580]

@@Augmental_Art Welcome to the joke! What would you like, an extra side of shame?

[@VincentVincent_89]

@@Augmental_Art GameCube controller Is ass

[@TheLegless101]

Nope, most people agree the GC controller is one of the best ever made. Xbox made their controllers (post original Xbox) based on the GC controller. Xbox controllers are widely considered the best.

[@centisaur]

@@Augmental_Art Who hurt you?

[@agonyguy96]

"I'm using tilt controls!"

[@Cobrashocker]

You need to upload more! You have gotten me addicted to changing GameCube controller parts and your information you provide about sellers is very helpful.

[@Slipdash]

Nothing better than knowing that you where beat by a guy with a 3rd party snes controller.

[@TectonicImprov]

Afaik that particular 3rd party controller is pretty good when it comes to playing SNES games

[@dngale41]

I have the same controller that was used in this video, and I actually like it more than an original SNES controller. The buttons are about the same, but the D-pad has a nice click-ey feel to it. Still, I wouldn't use it for competitive fighting games.

[@user-ey9bf9bz1o]

I got beat by a guy using just a mouse, not even with a keyboard. JUST A MOUSE

[@Slipdash]

@@picklejar7236 yep lol

[@jacksonschodowski9467]

Haha at 5:27 he goes for the c-stick, with nothing there XD

[@beaverg5702]

LOL

[@AGuyNamedIan]

lol

[@axelsalas8197]

imagine getting jv 5 stock and they say they are using a snes controller

[@j.a.g816]

That's me boiii best snes melee player

[@toxronin3971]

What’s ironic is I’m using a sf30 pro for ultimate. (If you don’t know what it is look it up lol)

[@LonelyMatt]

Exo Xd except that actually has enough buttons for smash

[@Raiden-hl1yf]

Tox 29 it doesn't look so bad

[@aisu_j5]

"Don't try this unless you don't like having fun" did you forget you are talking to melee players?

[@thatblooguy]

oh shit

[@CabbageGod]

ouch

[@Pengboys]

just play sheik, you'll be fine tilt tilt tilt in to some other tilt into tilt

[@crowns9966]

Pengboys *true*

[@ObamaHabib]

Really like this series of you playing melee with different controllers. Hoping you keep up the good content wheter it is playing melee or just anything related to melee.

[@zenithSSBM]

Thanks! And will do! Going to try to rotate these gameplay videos with reviews and informative videos so nothing gets too stale

[@RandomAnimeGamer]

>"cheap third party controller" >specifically using a good SNES 3rd party controller >specifically using a recognized name brand third party controller

[@NotMoreZombies]

Great job actually beating someone with that. You talked it down a bit, but the Buffalo is actually a great controller. SNES controller that is, it's obviously not suited for Smash. Would be interesting to see you review the Hori, PDP and/or PowerA GC controllers for Switch.

[@zenithSSBM]

you right, it actually feels really good when not forcing a claw grip and not playing smash!

[@carlspangler9278]

I love this video. Great work. I really enjoy the camera on your hands - I always want to see the hands work. Thanks for providing that.

[@mikeycawlfield6539]

Very fun vid. This and your other controller videos have been a joy. I hope you keep up the content

[@miguelgcgamer9878]

A true melee player can beat anyone with any controller even a tv remote.

[@metaknight2941]

Miguel GC Gamer 🤣😂

[@TDRR_Gamez]

A true skilled roy can beat any fox with any controller even a Atari 2600 controller

[@user-ey9bf9bz1o]

You mean the Atari 5200 controller?

[@funnyfunkinmonkey]

it’s funny because as an adult I am just now finding out that professionals use the C stick. On my block you got clowned for using the “handicap stick”.

[@funnyfunkinmonkey]

Sparky nice. Again though, if you used this stick back in the day you got clowned for using it. Wasn’t just my group either, seems it was a popular opinion

[@metaknight2941]

funnyfunkinmonkey Probably bad players that read the old Nintendo employee conversation about it. The C-Stick is nearly required for consistent advanced aerials/SHFFL U-Airs and Shield Drop FFL Aerials.

[@awoltime1686]

Me too. My friends and I thought it was cheap to use the cstick

[@funnyfunkinmonkey]

Meta Knight sounds like it was truly meant to be used as a handicap. You can perform all maneuvers achieved with the c-stick without actually using it.

[@MassResonance]

@@funnyfunkinmonkey Except you can't. You can't do a backwards drifting fair without it, and you can't fast fall UAir, and you can't do no charge smash attacks with consistency. It's super weird to consider c stick cheating. That'd be like saying jumping with x or y is cheating.

[@jaemsi9335]

Hey man, I'd just like to say I thoroughly enjoy your content and really think you are going to go places. Love your content! Have a nice day!

[@cirb_]

Wow, thanks for the reminder! I need to sign up for Fireside Open on December 1, 2018 in New Brunswick, NJ before time runs out!

[@yellowlemonPenguin]

your practice on the Snes controller is about how I am at melee now regularly.

[@umbreondiaz571]

I think i have an addiction to your videos because i watch all of them even if i can't do the thing your doing in the video or it's just random

[@shadow_endo]

Can you do an n64 controller next plz?

[@Cameronpiqua1]

I've done it. And its brutal lol

[@iCollectCans]

Impossible

[@Santi-bt7if]

It's way better than playing with the SNES one. You have an actual analog stick which allows you to walk and tilt attacks, the C buttons have no problem replacing the C stick and you also have two bumpers, the only problem is that the GC has 3 bumpers so you have to sacrifice the Right shield button to grab and use the Z button on the N64 controller as the L button to dodge, which can be annoying if you're used to dodge with R but once you get used to it you should have no problem.

[@ironpunch22]

@@Santi-bt7if except for the fact that the n64 has 3 bumpers, since it alzo has a Z button in the back

[@Santi-bt7if]

@@ironpunch22 if your hand is on the handle of the analog stick then you won't be able to use the "L" bumper at all. Unless you swtich handle, but that's just... well good luck with that

[@keyvalentino2813]

Congrats on 10k🎉

[@X19Virus]

Back in my senior year of high school, I only had one GC controller and a 8bitdo SNES controller, so I always let my friend use the GC one and I used the SNES. He was really good, he competed in some local tournaments and got best Shiek and Samus in my area, but because I had Melee on a laptop, we played daily during lunch the entire year (and some of the previous year) and well I kinda got stupidly good... at least as good as you can be using a SNES controller. I had to play around not being able to wavedash all that well or being able to tilt on command, but pro tip: holding left or right while doing another action will buffer a walk, and that's really the only way you can do tilts on this.

[@maffooo2040]

Yay new vid - love this channel

[@TomatoKyouko]

Subbed as soon as I saw the ReviewBrah shirt Pog

[@normankiefer6033]

I heard Bethesda is already developing a skyrim port for this.

[@Meg-qy1ss]

Glad to see you again

[@newchallenger9017]

I really liked how the editing hits all the highlights without you being all overreacting and also how you would laugh off sd’s that’s a lot of respect

[@monkeymart]

I didn't know I wanted this so much

[@multipurposepaperbox]

you say that this is somewhat of an experimental video, which I find interesting - because so far I've enjoyed all of the videos I've seen from you. I hope you'll do something somewhen soon!

[@zenithSSBM]

thanks man! that really means a lot to hear! :D I will try to continue making these kinds of videos along with all my other styles of video!

[@fIIaers]

Thank you Zenith, very cool!

[@RhysTheDev]

Clicked because I got given two of these controllers. They are nice to use.

[@leandro6285]

This is kinda funny for me, because i've been using an snes controller for melee in the past month to handicap myself vs a friend who's now to the game. It's pretty fun

[@tsukimaru131]

As a little suggestion, you could've let the controller on the table and use it as an arcade stick instead. Takes some time to get used to it, but it could've been less painfull than havin to claw-it 😅

[@greasehole1_736]

Yay, I'm the 10,000th Subscriber and I don't even know this guy.

[@AGuyNamedIan]

Congrats You Exist

[@Oromia64]

You can walk if you buffer left or right before moving You can light shield by buffering grab

[@utjason35]

Yes New video Also I tried a Ps2 controller once it wasnt preety

[@utjason35]

@Krystof Perkey it was only okay plus my Ps2 controller was stiff

[@dariosusu1529]

yeah i actually love playing with the ps4 controller on dolphin

[@utjason35]

@@dariosusu1529 hmmm

[@sauzeefy]

yo, use one of the triggers as a modifier button, i mean, you don't use both triggers right? If you do use both, well, you don't need a Z button if you have L/R+A, so you could map the modifier to a face button. Also, idk if it's possible, but it'd be cool to make one of the triggers a button that, while held, turns the face buttons into a c-stick. So my ideal setup (since I never use the L trigger) would be to set L to c-stick modifier for my face buttons. I would set B to attack, Y would be jump, X would be specials, and A would be a run/walk modifier. That way, with a bit of a learning curve, I could maximize the functionality of my controller.

[@coffee3125]

Fun video dude!

[@zerocks88]

I'm not sure what would be so hard about this tbh, I guess I have to try it to see for myself XD it definitely looked hard

[@zues2011]

I heavily recommend you try playing Melee with a Dualshock 4 controller. I perfer it to a GCN controller and you get 4 (or 6 if you use touchpad) extra buttons

[@John_Sturgeon]

>decides to try melee online >loses to some dude playing on a SNES controller >goes back to Sm4sh

[@Flare0227]

Well now your going the easy road. The real challenge gives you some real guts USING A NES CONTROLLER

[@Music7Ada]

this is like a joy-con

[@nath9000]

how epic of you my good sir

[@noahwhite854]

Looks like a good series! You could try an N64 controller next if you can...

[@Smightyfine]

With the rise in popularity of gamecube controller modification, I think you could pull off a really good video about mods/fixes and how they solve issues. i.e. snapback capacitor, raised triggers, tactile z button. Ordering custom controllers might get confusing for new players.

[@ForbiddenFate]

You should try this again with one of the 8bitdo snes pro controllers. Its an SNES controller but with all the inputs of a standard modern day controller.

[@ivanmehboob]

as someone who plays melee with both an xb1c and a gcc for melee (dont have an adapter), and someone who uses dpad for most fighters wen using pad, this is really funny to watch and also a seemingly comfortable way for me to attempt to play melee

[@metaknight2941]

Ivan Mehboob PS3 Controller/X360 controller user here and I do prefer the Xbox's D-Pad for most movements. I only use the Analog or the PS3 Controller sticks for Angled UP-B's or longer wavedashes.

[@ivanmehboob]

@@metaknight2941 oh I don't use dpad for melee (or a ps controller for that matter cuz I don't like them) I use dpad for other fighting games like tekken or bbctb, although I did find wavedashing easier on dpad.

[@greenyoshi119]

I did the same thing drunk at a party once because I had an sfc 130 controller I already had connected to the computer, was surprisingly playable, but no where near optimal

[@Hacktendo64]

This guy can still play Melee better than me Even with the SNES controller

[@LestaBan]

Can you have a look at the powerA Bluetooth GameCube controller. It's supposed to be a switch pro controller replacement

[@merlingt1]

I know this is not the point of the video but the iBuffalo is probably the best usb snes 3rd party controller. It's the only 3rd party that I use.

[@maffooo2040]

I like this video style

[@joe_morris]

Hey dude could you do a comparison of the new Ultimate gamecube controller to the new PowerA wireless/wired controller Gamecube styled controller?

[@Biglanond]

I have a question have you ever used a ttx classic gamecube controller and if you have would you recommend it

[@doubleoh771]

Could you please do a review on zedlabz gamecube controller sticks?

[@bland9876]

I wanna see this guy review the wireless power a gamecube style Nintendo switch controller with the shiny shoulder buttons and grown up dpad

[@calebrivera1117]

Hey I play smash melee over the others but Never seen that version, wat is that version u have there, and I also would like to know if u could do another video on the "Wii classic controller with handles" with all the buttons just switch the movement to depad... On that controller... I always end up using that in the middle if battle and it gets me killed.. Wondering if it can play just as well with the depad instead of the analog. Bc you looked great, some odd movements but im glad u still did the movements. I feel u could get used to that. If u had a better working controller.

[@metaknight2941]

Caleb Rivera The 20XX mod on the Dolphin Emulator I believe.

[@calebrivera1117]

@@metaknight2941 thanks for responding when able I'll download as soon as possible. ;]

[@McNuttySSBM]

Ive done this before! I have an Ibuffalo Snes USB controller to play older games and it was rough!

[@r4ryder388]

Could you try out the powera wireless controller

[@MakoTheFrog]

top 10 anime battles snes controller vs n64 fishing rod controller i saw a vid of a guy using the n64 fishing controller in tourney once too lmao

[@SEGACD32XMODEL1]

With “a” SNES Controller Gotta Play with the Mindlink Controller from Atari with my mind! Sega Does What Nintendon’t!!!

[@Xarique]

more zenith content???? PogChamp

[@resultadosejecutivos]

You should make this into a series of trying out random controllers on netplay. Next one should be a ps3 controller

[@Xnerdz1]

Alright, now it's time to win some matchs with a single joycon.

[@Happy-or4wt]

I am curious, there were gamecube controllers from manufacturers like Hori that went into the port on the bottom of a wii controller. Could you review them for funzies? I wonder how good they are and if they are worth for their parts, shells, ect

[@set9971]

You’ve broken the universe

[@boydudeman]

The mad lad...

[@xandert8527]

10/10 top tier controller

[@derekthedragonlayer]

lmao I did this same thing but with an NES controller. Would you be down to do a few matches NES vs SNES controllers?

[@Gold_Yoshi]

*starts hitting people with a controller*

[@mattsstuff907]

I want to get a Gamecube! ANY info on where to get one?

[@TDRR_Gamez]

Still one million times better than playing with solo Wiimote TRY OUT THE LOGITECH DUAL ACTION/F310 PLEASE!

[@emojicrazy3747]

Fox Dabbing

[@yukkuri_ender]

Play Sm4sh with the game & watch controller (impossible I guess)

[@ElemenoHydrant]

So you can do online play with the dolphin emulator?

[@joshuadurham9570]

You should review the new Power A Gamecube controllers. Are they any good. Yes, I know you can't play native Melee with them. I just want to see how good they are for Melee on Dolphin to see if they'll be good for Ultimate.

[@cyan.6399]

I wonder if I could play melee well like that with Wii-Mote-like settings. i played a lot of wiimote.

[@unknownthingy4299]

I forgot this want controller asmr

[@SamHardie]

if ur getting 1.0 inputs, how are you doing tilts

[@anleocaiii]

The new Meta

[@guayabo6084]

how did you tilt? you said you cannot walk

[@aIkaIi]

This would be easy for me because I grew up with the wii. And I used the wii remote for Brawl.

[@electra_]

That's also Brawl.

[@LukaMusics]

YO real talk tho the iBuffalo SNES usb controllers are good as heck

[@Ep347]

Why did you go with SUCH a complicated button layout and grip??? XD

[@gooigismansion8215]

Can you show us how to remove kinks from the GameCube controller cable?

[@Buttsubushi_OCE]

I would use a heat gun on low heat or hairdryer to heat it up, and then gently roll it on a table with baking paper and another sheet of paper on top with a flat hardback book or just your hands, for about 2~3 mins. Go slow and gentle and DONT pull on the cable, you can break the copper wire internals.

[@Mental_Health_Matters]

As a USB controller, how was it?

[@justanotheryoutubechannel]

Now a normal SNES controller, maybe. But a third party one? Fuck no.

[@squidward3917]

R u gonna start uploading again? If so are you going to play more melee or play ultimate?

[@zenithSSBM]

ill try to do both! and working on videos right now! things have just been pretty busy (without getting into personal details) more videos to come very soon though! :)

[@blank_ivysaur]

Is it better than Wiimote?

[@bello9935]

How u get this game and how do u play it online

[@Mjflight98]

RIP THRID PARTY CONTROLLER 😂🤣

[@thelurkingpanda3605]

Thats a very vaporwave outro

[@nonplayercharacter12333]

I'll bet any money, you could still body me with that controller. I'm really bad at Melee.

[@SrAndroide]

Next do it with an NES controller

[@eepop5976]

you should make a video on pink cadi's buttons and shells

[@zenithSSBM]

theyre on the list of upcoming reviews!

[@CrazyRiverOtter]

The best way to play Melee is with the grey button on the GameCube itself.

[@marcusurbenz]

i plugged an old logitech attack 3 flight stick into my pc and used it on melee and oh boy it was interesting...