Absolutely love your videos Vince, your so honest with your repairs and happily admit when your struggling. Wife was in the room while watching this video and said you should re-title the video to “Atari Jaguar slowly fixes itself while repair man pokes at it”
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Haha, thank you and what a brilliant comment :-)
@bradleycarleton8259 Жыл бұрын
Vince you are the best youtuber in the world I love you so much tysm for your efforts you put into your vids
@Jeff1214564 жыл бұрын
The coil in the rf modulator that was misshapen was done at the factory to fine tune the inductance to adjust the output frequency/amplitude. The screw you were messing with is a core to the main coil is the main method to adjust the frequency which is why it affected the reception. Capacitors in digital electronics are mainly used for noise filtering and decoupling. In RF circuits they are also used with inductors (coils) to create tank circuits that amplify the RF signal and to block dc voltages from crossing between stages ( probably why you found a path to ground on both sides of that capacitor).
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jeffery :-)
@charliemeredith56333 жыл бұрын
@@Mymatevince love your work and I am only 13 😁
@Dez0832 жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you use RF when you have composite or better still ........RGB Scart. It's so simple plug and play and then you know for sure it's actually working or not. Not to mention the superior sound and picture quality.
@Gettwobirdsstonedatonce4 жыл бұрын
When I seen the Jaguar, I knew this fix would be weird. I'm not disappointed. I'd definitely chalk this as a win, the Jaguar is such a freak of nature.
@1985HEZE4 жыл бұрын
"where did you learn to fly ?!"
@connorkotara48684 жыл бұрын
Henry Zerbst AVGN from 2009
@R0V0lv04 жыл бұрын
@@connorkotara4868 haha yes.
@123simion19894 жыл бұрын
I just came to the comments to type this but you got there first!
@much12764 жыл бұрын
I don't get it, could it anybody explain, shortly?
@MK-qo1rz4 жыл бұрын
I was about to say that lol.😲
@thetinman7494 жыл бұрын
Hey Vince- I just wanted to say thanks for all of the content you provide. It's been infinitely helpful during these weird times. Watching one of your videos always hits the reset button for me so I just wanted to let you know how much it's appreciated. Friendly reminder that what you do does make an impact and makes people lives better.
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Zach :-)
@EEVOL4 жыл бұрын
Vince, really love your content man. I remember you made a poll a couple of days ago about which videos people prefer to watch, I just want to give you some feedback as an average viewer: I think the best way to describe your videos with regards to why some people prefer watching your videos is simple -- tech porn. It's as simple as that. You have this niche corner that ONLY your videos can provide and that's the analytical/troubleshooting of game systems/electronics. People like myself gravitate to these videos because they are well narrated, people can relate to you because it's not TOO techy and isn't deep enough to where people will get lost in the terminology. Yes there are a lot of "let's fix/try to fix" vids out there on KZbin, but you have this je ne sais quoi about your videos that make them distinct from the rest. I can see you getting to 750k by the end of the year, if not 1mil subscriber. Keep it up mate, don't ever change your format, people like myself have subscribed because your vids are exactly what I want to watch sitting infront of my computer on an afternoon sipping on a pint/coffee at home.
@darkspartan5664 жыл бұрын
love to see old school repairs like this vince i can see you fixing many retro systems
@Fifury1614 жыл бұрын
54:00 - cheap because it's the game that shipped with the console! The gamepad was a nice idea, there was an overlay for the keypad which helped identify what the buttons did...
@BenjermanKulandaisamy4 жыл бұрын
Who leaves hateful comments on someone trying to learn how to fix something people in the repeal Community should be supportive of people trying to be a part of the community because the more people how to become a part of the community the more different Viewpoint we will have and different ways of looking at problems I've been repairing electronics for a while but there's always something new I can learn something new even from someone who just started out
@billy-waynejeffcoat48284 жыл бұрын
People mad that even the broken console prices are rising. They don't want people doing this so they can keep getting insane deal pricing on broken things that are easily fixable
@soviet99224 жыл бұрын
bla bla bla bla
@terjes75484 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to know if the "overheated" chip is cooler when the console is working vs when it didn't.
@ChrisArmstrong1944 жыл бұрын
I suspect the chip is part of the cause, perhaps add some cheap Aluminium gpu ram mini heat sinks on those hot chips?
@greenaum2 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisArmstrong194 Pretty sure those are the actual RAM chips. 8 of them, 8 bits each, giving 64 bits. One of the designers said, the machine isn't really 64 bits in any meaningful sense, they did it to get more bandwidth out of cheap consumer RAM chips. 64 bits out of 8 chips is more data at once than 32 bits out of 4 chips. But only a couple of parts in one of it's chips can actually handle 64 bits, mostly the rest of them use 32. The machine has 5 processors, each designed heavily around one or two particular functions. It was apparently an utter mess to program cos you've got these 5 CPUs with no obvious way of getting them to work together to produce a result. The design was apparently compromised from the usual corporate sort of bullshit, but even if it came out as the designer intended, I've no idea what they were going for. It's an odd machine, underpowered compared to the Playstation and Saturn, and what power it had, nobody knew how to use. Bizarre. Most of it's games were ports from the Amiga, which used a 68000 as it's main CPU. In the Jaguar, the 68000 is the *least* powerful chip it has, a designer said "we only put it in there to read the joysticks", it was included to give programmers something they were used to. But sadly it meant that they ported code from the Amiga or Megadrive, and mostly ignored the Jag's other hardware, which made it look pathetic running outdated games that didn't use it's power. But software houses weren't willing to put the full effort into learning it, because it hadn't sold enough to justify the investment.
@chrisb151514 жыл бұрын
I tested 3 jags a couple of weeks ago, none of them were working. I basically cleaned the board a few times with ipa. Still nothing, tried to see if continuity between the board & the pin connector. All fine. I ordered an av out cable & all worked everytime. It puzzled me at the time & still does. I think at the end you mentioning about PAL signal does play into on these boards. The ones I have don't have the same alterations as your board. Superb video btw 👍
@djinndemon4 жыл бұрын
I loved my Atari jaguar. bought it with doom and wow what an eye opener. what a jump from megadrive graphics. Great video Vince..
@cutterbacon4 жыл бұрын
I bought 2 consoles and 2 copies of doom brand new and had to wait 3 months for the special link lead from atari.
@pds84754 жыл бұрын
L is an inductor, coil not capacitors. If it starts playing up again I would suggest you reflow the chips as a dry joint on one of the pins could make it not boot and if you put pressure on the chip say while you were cleaning the game slot. it could make the pin contact.
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Thanks PDS, I really should have recognised that 'L' means inductor and not capacitor. Yes I will keep an eye on it and if it fails again I will revisit and reflow :-)
@CarlRhoades4 жыл бұрын
I had this exact issue with a Jaguar from November '93. I touched up all of the joints I could, no issues since.
@chrisnewbold98763 жыл бұрын
‘ What I’m wondering is....’ I wait for this every video now..keep em coming Vince!
@dirtyjawa4 жыл бұрын
I was just watching a wii u trying to fix video from 2018 and man, you've really came such a long way. Gives me hope as I've started small electronics repair. Love your videos and thanks for all the help!
@Turmio14 жыл бұрын
Yay more retro stuff! I had an Atari Jaguar growing up. Only had one game though: Alien vs. Predator. That start up music with the roar and the little tune is super nostalgic. Now that I started game collecting I've got a few more games for it. The homebrew scene for the Jaguar has gotten pretty popular recently as well.
@mikew6424 жыл бұрын
Vince I've watched you since your broadband instructional videos, long time ago, and your my Sherlock Holmes of electronics my friend! Through the powers of deduction, you fix these issues!
@Asriazh4 жыл бұрын
With how you went about doing things, turning the Jaguar on and off, leaving it on, leaving it off repeatedly, i think it might have been a bad capacitor after all, reforming itself up to the point where things actually started working again. Capacitors can do that at times when they're powered on for long enough. Apart from that i have no real clue how it's working now when it didn't before *lol* Not my favorite console, but it's always nice to save old hardware ^_^
@amnril3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant…. I have two Jaguars, one working Jag CD and pretty much every released Cart, all boxed. It’s a Labour of love.
@randysmith70944 жыл бұрын
Toss the RF box in trash and glue in place a 3.5mm jack for AV out!
@miro_trendafilov2 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact about the Atari Jaguar: when Atari went bankrupt, they sold the Jaguar molds to a dental camera company. If you look it up, you'll see pictures of the flipped silver Atari Jaguar, it's exactly the same, which is hilarious to me. Also, the AVGN video on it is pretty informative.
@JonPadfield4 жыл бұрын
What an oddball fault Vince. You are a Saint not have started swearing. When I get these sorts of fixes my wife throws me out of the house! 🤣
@paullefur62134 жыл бұрын
Another great vlog from Vince,
@iain9999999999999994 жыл бұрын
Bear in mind the technology of televisions back when the Jaguar was designed. Usually tuned by turning mechanical tuning dials of some description, not something run by microcontroller. I imagine it'll work just fine on your old TVs that use manual tuners (eg the boombox TV). Analogue tuners on modern TVs... Not convinced they're a priority. I mean, none of the reviewers will notice it; and few consumers will notice if the analogue tuner isn't great.
@mikehensley784 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! I've been waiting for another video. Another obscure item also. Nobody is doing board repair on a Jaguar. Very cool video IMO. I recall when jaguars came out. The ads put so much hype on them and they sucked, i guess. I've never seen one in person. It was something to do with saying they were a 64bit console. Again, awesome video.
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mike :-)
@much12764 жыл бұрын
I also think it was a dirty cardridge connector. Which also caused a short (maybe with a slightly high resistance or impendance). After cleaning it it was better, the ipa makes a better connection, as it evapuates the connection got bad again. The RF Signal seem to be ok. I live in germany and when I connect a console via RF, I always had (analog TV here is gone) to tune in the Channel by my own. The same with old analog TV Signals. We do not have Channels with fixed RF bandwiths, every channel has the same. To get our TV channels we had to tune in the right frequency. most TV have an automatic Channel finder which goes to all frequencys and stops if the Image is ok.
@marcezs084 жыл бұрын
the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over again and again, and expecting different results... and then the atari jaguar board said HOLD MY BEER.
@ppcituk4 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the videos Vince, something to look forward to during lockdown.
@cocothepoopcatdog63514 жыл бұрын
The semi-angry rant at the end of the video is absolute gold, thank you
@mitchyk4 жыл бұрын
Consoles and computers that tune in on RF required tuning to a different channel once channel 5 launched. This passed without much fanfare so many people missed it. This is why you're having trouble tuning it on RF.
@TermitesRGood14 жыл бұрын
46:11 Tells me its Regional locked when you switch it off UK its OK.
@speedwaynutt4 жыл бұрын
Yes some more retro gaming fixing :D
@nathanrichardson52234 жыл бұрын
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@lawrencecavens5760 Жыл бұрын
Yep I remember those slotted games were a real problem where the receptical would be the issue from corrosion and or Oxidation to soldering joint problems because of the force it takes to insert and remove the cartridge . you've fixed it by cleaning it wayda go there Vince... Also You probably have a NTSC model where you have PAL for tuning the RF is set to NTSC which is why your TV doesn't work on RF out put
@michaelthomas36464 жыл бұрын
my personal guess would be the switch is ground connected, and there is a 5v rail (LED to switch), and a 12v rail leading to the switch. so when the switch was pressed it would light up the LED, but dirt or something stopping the 12v rail from connecting to the switch. hense why the LED came on, but the console didn't fully switch on. and also why it is working all the time at the end of the video.
@yoloswaggins76114 жыл бұрын
Those caps on top of that chip on the right look like tantalums. Those are well known for being terrible. They can sometimes fail open circuit, sometimes they become a dead short and explode. I would suggest replacing them. Not sure if they'll cause intermittent issues like you're experiencing.
@1337Shockwav34 жыл бұрын
Clueless nonsense - those are common leaded axial ceramic capacitors.
@bradleycarleton8259 Жыл бұрын
Vince you are the best youtuber in the world I love you so much tysm for your efforts you put into your vids
@relaxxxrrr4 жыл бұрын
Forget about the RF. You should just bypass the obsolete RF circuitry and wire the composite video output straight to the RCA jack. Then add a small headphone jack for the audio out somewhere.
@PoutingTrevor4 жыл бұрын
I can't solder to save my life, but I can clean well, and it's fixed all my console issues so far!
@supermega14 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks Here in OZ we have VHF and UHF TV band and I believe in the UK VHF band was discontinued in the 70''s ? Your UK TV is picking up a ghost/harmonic image of the vhf modulator in the unit on UHF.I had the opposite problem once with a UK pong game I purchased in the UK. Changing to Australia on the TV is changing the tuning range to include VHF.The output of the modulator would be between 54 -225 mhz (AU ch 0 to 12) I think the bridged cap would ber for DC blocking on some units.
@BADSeCt0R2XP4 жыл бұрын
Excellent job mate. Now grab your self a copy of tempest 2000 and Rayman (or a jag everdrive and the roms, i don't judge) and enjoy your jag :)
@adventureridergirl4 жыл бұрын
The first thing I do when I get an old computer/game console/etc. is take it apart and give any PCBs a good clean with electrical contact cleaner. Then if there are any card slots, edge connectors, RAM slots, etc. I hit those with just a little DeoxIT. I can't tell you how many "defective" components I've brought back to life just by giving them a proper cleaning. After I clean everything up I start checking other components, RTC battery, capacitors, etc. By cleaning the whole board first you rule out any minor shorts due to contamination (liquid, flux, debris, etc.) and DeoxIT is great for making sure you have good contact between any game carts, add on cards, controllers, etc.
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips :-)
@howtowithelizabeth75134 жыл бұрын
I think the screw thing in the box at 42:00 is an adjustor for the signal
@antonia47224 жыл бұрын
That little screw in the tuner is an intermediate Frequency Transformer. Part of the tuning circuitry.
@mrbridger54 жыл бұрын
You could have saved days of work, just blow into the cartridge, that fixes everything 😄
@unimportant51224 жыл бұрын
Afaik, the UK used PAL-I, whereas most of the rest of western europe used PAL-B, this might explain the compatibility issues. The inductor that's spread apart in the tuner is part of a finely tuned LC tank oscillator. Physically moving the inductor actually changes the oscillation frequency so it's set by hand and then glued/laquered to keep it in place.
@TheChinasky714 жыл бұрын
You're correct, the "screw" should be intended for fine tuning the signal. The c64 had a similar rf-modulator as far as I know. Maybe one of the crystals used to give the rf frequency is out of sync or non working.
@markholdahl65113 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old thread, but I found the set up instructions for the Jaguar, and it said that PAL-B connects to VHF and PAL-I connects to UHF (tho does not say which channel). Of course, if there's only 1 antenna port, it doesn't matter...
@ArreglandoCosas4 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince! i was not going to comment this but i cant help it. On minute 49:23 the screen goes red. I believe there is still an issue with the console. Could it be? Excellent video and awesome console
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
I thought that might have been part of the game....you have me worried now....I can't go through this again, not for many months :-)
@ArreglandoCosas4 жыл бұрын
@@Mymatevince hahaha that is why i didnt want to tell you. I can almost feel the amount of hours you spent on this. I will remind you in a couple of months haha. Cheers mate.
@ChrisArmstrong1944 жыл бұрын
Great video Vince, perhaps you do a revisit on this where you clean up the entire board.
@charlesjmouse2 жыл бұрын
Cybrermorph! A game that's much better with a broken screen! Now if you can break the sound... "Where did you learn to fly?" *sigh* Always fun videos, thanks. FWLIW: To me your frustrating issues smell of cheapness on Atari's part - cut a corner here and there to save pennies on components and this can often be the result. A particular problem with analogue TV - I bet a replacement RF box would work better, if made by somebody more reputable.
@michaelprice30314 жыл бұрын
I wish I had as much patience as you. It's definitely frustrating to fix something without knowing what you did to fix it.
@welliben4 жыл бұрын
Going from memory the Jaguar was released prior to the holiday season in America only (well specifically a New York 'test' market). Europe was meant to get it before the Christmas period as well, but due to manufacture issues it didn't happen. As the Jag was the hottest new hardware at the time (believe it or not!) quite a few places were importing them at astronomic mark ups so it could well in theory be that this console is an import. In theory if you had a another working Jag you could probably turn that pot on the modulator to tune it to the same signal as the good Jag. Cybermorph is the cheapest game because it was the pack in launch game and most consoles came with it (although a few later issues came with no game or Alien vs Predator). The Cartridge slot on the Jag is a bit finicky to say the least, and will often red screen at the best of times, usually it is just dirt. It could be that just inserting the cart enough times and the cleaning you did, did enough to clean it out.
@h4x0rm1k354 жыл бұрын
The Jaguar was released in the UK, I remember as my mate had 1 and was able to buy games for it because I brought it off of him when he'd done with it. he wasn't the kind for importing stuff, just buying the latest and greatest at the time and then flogging them off cheap when he'd done with them!
@welliben4 жыл бұрын
@@h4x0rm1k35 Ah yep it did come eventually a few months later (I have two PAL consoles and the CD add on!), a shame really as I think the uptake in Europe would have been a lot better than the sales it eventually received with America as the launch market, given Atari's success with the Atari ST and is relatively low base in the US. When I got it I was actually blown away by Cybermorph believe or not, the whole goraud shaded 3D world space shooter was a bit unusual in those days... although I had come from an ST and a SNES.
@DJKC2 жыл бұрын
I used to work for UK retailer Silica when this was launched and we used to sell them. Also if I recall it was avalable pretty close to Xmas.
@paulbunting42602 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince have you ever considered making a repro cart for the Jaguar?
@Ammar.D4 жыл бұрын
Hey UAE managed to be usefull for once, great job Vince
@karlwalker1771 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic Channel Mate I Know It`s 3 yrs Old But, Reignite Your Channel Mate!! YOUR GREAT!:)
@impulse_ger4 жыл бұрын
DSP is a Digital Signal Processor. Great video btw!
@AnonymousRepair4 жыл бұрын
Well done these are the one you always remember and is always a nightmare , still great video 👍😊
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Anonymous :-)
@RGInquisitor4 жыл бұрын
"I'm kinda curious if this was brought over from another country..." *Sticker label clearly says USA, where NTSC is the standard. Oh Vince! Never change! This was a very interesting video. I would have given up on it 20 minutes in!
@EvilAng3la4 жыл бұрын
This is not a USA Jaguar - the system had a red power LED in the US. The power light was changed to green in the EU - I think there's some law that requires red lights to mean a fault condition.
@aquatics1174 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, what is the golden egg in the top left of the blue mat for?
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, I was wondering what you meant until I watched the vid back :-) That is to clean the solder of the soldering iron. You can use it instead of a wet sponge to clean the tip of excess solder :-) Some people prefer it as it doesn't cool down the tip as much as a wet sponge :-)
@garymetheringham49904 жыл бұрын
bad power switch contacts? constant on/off cleaned them?
@PMcDFPV4 жыл бұрын
Umm not that i dont appreciate every single video you put out good sir, but.... how am i spose to work this morning with a new My Mate Vince Video !!!! Thanks sir !
@PMcDFPV4 жыл бұрын
Happy with a 2.5 - 3hr version of videos as well :) Maybe a "Long Version" ? Sorry i know you are always slammed bringing us the already amazing content :) and its much appreciated !
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Haha, sorry Paul :-)
@andyp32434 жыл бұрын
Hi vince which multimeter do you use in your video would you recomend it or witch would you recomend for a beginner
@paulkeith63584 жыл бұрын
The Atari Jaguar if I remember rightly actually came with Cybermorph. It was a particularly crap game and no wonder that it was so cheap. If you can you should track down a copy of Tempest 2000. Tempest 2000 was a real psychedelic showcase for the system in both sound and visuals. However it is quite rare and expensive,but in my opinion one of the few games that can be considered really worthwhile getting.
@StuartZiane4 жыл бұрын
Hi Vince, quick question if you don't mind? What's the mains input voltage range as stated on the back of your soldering station/power supply please? Is it 220V? Cheers
@DarrenPeet4 жыл бұрын
Could it be a dry joint (s) on the board that just need reflowing?
@donaldfontes14374 жыл бұрын
I have a Jaguar console with the av I like it nice system very awesome video.
@jbuurk4 жыл бұрын
Using a scope (as you mentioned you have one) instead of prodding and re-soldering is a much better way of finding the underlying fault(s) and repairing it properly. Much more educational too.
@HoudiniFontmeister4 жыл бұрын
I have repaired NES, SNES, Genesis, etc. I have fixed a lot of these old consoles. Never had a Jaguar. But I can 100% Confirm that sometimes a thorough deep cleaning is enough to fix a console (Resoldering the pins is also a good idea as well) I don't believe it was so much the corrosion preventing the pins from connecting though. I believe that something was shorting out underneath the slot. This would explain why it was messing up so often and not booting even when you shorted those two pins. The short could have been small enough to let it begin to boot then error out at the red screen as well. When you cleaned it you removed all kinds of dirt that had built up over the years. Also The system likely started working after it had a good while to dry out. Maybe it would be a fun idea to create a way to keep dust out to prevent this from happening again. Many of these die out and no one really takes the time to just deep clean them. I have a feeling that most of the Retro systems that get tossed out as defective or fried just need a deep clean. I say that because I have only ever had 1 NES that was Legit dead in 12 years of repairing them and I'd say half of them just need cleaning and soldering. Great video mate! Also The UK and Ireland use a higher frequency than The rest of Europe. Most of the older consoles are just spec'd to have the higher frequency and generally work but several are not compatible. Newer tv's just kind of work with whatever you put in (A lot of them can detect the frequency and tune in which is why the TV you tried last looked cleaner I'd guess).
@KorAllRBare4 жыл бұрын
Great job in cleaning BOTH "The Game cartridge" and Game consoles "Cartridge Slot".. APU Dropped a like..
@JustinPR344 жыл бұрын
Hello love your vids keep up the good work
@10p64 жыл бұрын
The Jaguar did have an issue, a very dirty cart slot. This is why the 74AC244 Octal Buffer chip was getting very hot. The Jaguar cart slot can show many issues, from no screen, to red screen, to corrupt graphics and more. The RF Modulator issue is strange as the C100186 I believe is a PAL modulator for the XEGS game system and not the Jaguar, so I am guessing that could have been swapped out by someone. I am wondering now is this started out as a French system with no modulator, and someone added the C100186 to give it an RF signal. That could also be related why the capacitor was missing.
@michaeladams98074 жыл бұрын
Nice fix 👍👍
@hi-friaudioman4 жыл бұрын
Two things... it's cheaper for a company to bodge a couple wires to fix an issue than remanufacture a whole new board hence the factory "mod" as you said. Secondly DSP stands for Digital Signal Processing otherwise known as "digital signaling" which can be a number of things, access for peripherals to the cpu/components of the devices logic. It could be a digital video output from the devices DSP "Digital Signal Processor", it could also be a means for the factory to test the unit and its various functions.
@BrainHurricanes4 жыл бұрын
26:42 Are you sure your modern TV doesn't go searching for another input when you shut down the console ? Probably.
@nightstah4 жыл бұрын
Your Logik TV panel came from Australia, yet the rest of the TV originated in the UK. I would think the mainboard or logic board would be the determining factor on whether it would display UK or Aussie frequencies (yes, both PAL). This makes me think maybe not. Considering your other TV displays it...
@michaelmcdonald23484 жыл бұрын
I used to get customers who brought their TV's over from continental Europe and wanted them converted. In all cases the picture would tune in perfectly but no audio. The conversion was fairly easy, just replacing some ceramic filters and a slight tuning. Have a look if you can what it's actually tuned to on the TV. I'm thinking this might be a VHF modulator. Your test TV may disable this when set to UK which would explain why it tunes in when you change country. UK only used VHF for 405 line transmissions and abandoned it for TV use in 1985 when they closed down 405. Other countries (including the Republic of Ireland with PAL-I) continued to use VHF for analogue transmissions. I suspect this console isn't a UK model. By the way the coils and parallel capacitors form a tuned circuit so you will always read a short on that capacitor because of the coil in parallel. The separated turns is how they fine tune that circuit and disturbing that would have a negative effect, which is why they stuck that glue there.
@robtitheridge97084 жыл бұрын
Hi vince two possible explanations for the fix 1> a capacitor in the reset circuit has reformed its self 2> the on off switch has a set of reset contacts that were dirty. As others have said the modulator is not for the UK.
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Rob, a lot have mentioned the power switch in the comments, maybe it was just dirty contacts!!!! If only I had thought of that I could have saved a wasted day :-)
@themcdonald38524 жыл бұрын
Great video! What soldering iron/multimeter do you use. I'm interested in fixing a few of my own consoles etc. I've had a look on your website and your email channel but can't see anything (incase you have already mentioned this). Cheers Vince. Take it easy
@Retro-Hamer7 ай бұрын
My Jag has just started doing this. Will give it a deep clean soon
@huntergreene714 жыл бұрын
I once did some work for a PC manufacturer that had me replacing BIOS' on site with IC's that had a resistor jumping 2 pins.
@ray738644 жыл бұрын
Quick google search says that pin 14 is a 'key' pin, along with pin 13. Pin 16 goes to either a 27C101 (eprom) or a 74hc244 (Octal Buffer / Line Driver). Console5.com has the schematic, archive.org does too.
@robertoneill19794 жыл бұрын
Wait. What about the two swapped chips that weren't identical after all? Were they close enough to do their job?
@ydswd20034 жыл бұрын
375/5000 Maybe it was a combination of different problems. Cold joints, dirty contacts in the cartridge or a dirty power button (and you "cleaned" it by turning the console on and off 200 times), sometimes it happens that they get dirty and do not conduct the proper current. You could try to lightly tap the console or better yet, the pcb with a pencil to see if it has any false contact
@ydswd20034 жыл бұрын
375/5000 Maybe it was a combination of different problems. Cold joints, dirty contacts in the cartridge or a dirty power button (and you "cleaned" it by turning the console on and off 200 times), sometimes it happens that they get dirty and do not conduct the proper current. You could try to lightly tap the console or better yet, the pcb with a pencil to see if it has any false contact
@mfbruno4 жыл бұрын
"what on earth is going on" perfectly defines the video 😂😂😂
@abzhuofficial4 жыл бұрын
Complete with the cheesy retro cartoony music lmao 😜
@adrianpearce52144 жыл бұрын
Great job vince nice to see it works
@BILLZ624 жыл бұрын
did u put tape on the meter speaker seemed well better😀
@billhancox2533 жыл бұрын
Great video and well done for sticking it out. Your Logik TV i believe is a tesco brand and I have come across the same problem before on other consoles with Logik. especially the older ones such as the original playstation etc using modulators. 5* and well done again.
@RWL20123 жыл бұрын
Logik is Currys, Tesco is Technika.
@billhancox2533 жыл бұрын
@@RWL2012 yes of course you are right. Must have been a senior moment lol.
@MayaPosch4 жыл бұрын
Things to do with a non-working system: 1. Check for physical damage. 2. Check for shorts. 3. Measure voltages (supply rails across the board). 4. Isolate fault to a subsystem.
@Magicman85083 жыл бұрын
Without schematic, how do you know which voltage should be where?
@JohnRobinsonRC4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE your videos. Find myself shouting at my mobile saying do this and do that, even though I know only a quarter of what you do. My wife laughs at me. 😂 😂 😂 😂 I'm half way through this one. Gonna watch the rest now! 😊
@chictownguy2 жыл бұрын
I found an adapter that lets you use atari jag controllers on pc via usb. I think you have a pal jaguar... you have a ntsc tv?
@KorAllRBare4 жыл бұрын
***Addendum*** If you find out what channel and what Format the RF Box outputs you could set another Device to the same channel and then Tune the TV to it, then plug in the Jaguar and tune the "IF Pot" "the one that you screwed" Not stuffed up mind you - Just TUNED to another channel" So it displays also at that channel.. Just bare in mind that "StillCloser" Below is correct about the various formats and having said that it may be easy to actually change some components to your Jaguars RF Box to output your regions Pal.. of course you will need to open up an RF box with your region to copy from..
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the tips Koala :-)
@Vermilicious4 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this console. Anyway, intermittent errors makes me think of bad joints, dirty contacts and/or heat problems. The cartridge connector looked suspicious indeed. There might be a lifted trace or something there, or some flux residue, as discussed. The seller also wrote something about flux residue, I think. Flux and liquid residue can be conductive, so when I see that I'm thinking it's always a good idea to clean it off straight away. The hot chip is also suspicious. Even if it's supposed to get warm, adding a heat sink could prolong its life. Oh, and it's probably best not to put solder on connector pins since you can never get it off again.
@bramvandenbroeck50603 жыл бұрын
Thank you mentioned my home country man ;) Belgium is awesome :p
@PlanetRuncorn4 жыл бұрын
Why do you call the Circuit Board Tracks "Viers" i have heard you say it a few times and and i need to know ! ...
@Mymatevince4 жыл бұрын
Vias are the holes that go from one side of the board to the other, so a track (trace) will end on a via, travel through the via to the other side (or another layer in the board) and then continue onwards :-)
@PlanetRuncorn4 жыл бұрын
@@Mymatevince , thanks Vince, i know know what you mean, the holes that just go from one side to the other we call it through hole plating, . cheers and keep up the good work #
@theqnkshow41574 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to try out at fixing mine again after sitting in with my old school consoles for 20 years. Someone put a wrong power supply in it, blowing the internals around the port
@custardo4 жыл бұрын
UK is PAL I, Mainland Europe (excl. France) and Australia are PAL B/G. This is indeed probably an European machine. If you connect this jaguar to a TV that only supports PAL I, then even if you'd get an picture you wouldn't get audio.
@hifkman4 жыл бұрын
The problem was the dirty/corroded cartridge connector. Had same problem with my n64. Sometimes game works perfectly when you have the pins lined, if not its black screen.
@CJ-rf9jm4 жыл бұрын
For the 1st couple years the jaguar did come with that game included. Forgot exactly when but they did eventually sell the system without it at a discount. Got my jaguar new n still have it, even played that game a fair bit. the keypad had notches on the edges for a plastic overlay for selecting weapons n such ingame. You can probably look them up online.
@brianpack23324 жыл бұрын
Wow! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally felt your pain on this video
@VioletDragonsProjects4 жыл бұрын
Had the exact same thing years ago with VHS recorders. Try manual tuning instead of automatic tuning.
@JuicyJakeRepairs4 жыл бұрын
haha i love how it decided to just start working for a bit
@GORF_EMPIRE4 жыл бұрын
The Jaguar controller will work in the Atari Falcon030 if you are lucky enough to have one of those. That is one of the first units made..... I can see you even have the analog to digital chips but they were never used so unless you write your own game that uses them... those caps across the RAM chips could indeed be original bodge connections. Keep in mind you are dealing with a multi layer PCB and whomever was in there could have damaged the board layers. The problem is certainly with the cart connections. They are not self cleaning either. Just so you understand that. definitely replace those logic chips that were overheating. I'm sure they are damaged at this point. Use the edge of a defunct credit card with an old clean t-shirt dipped in contact cleaner. Shove it in and out carefully. Cut a strip of that old card to fit in the smaller area of the keyed connector and do the same. Make sure you clean the cartridge edge connector thoughly. I'm typing these as I watch so if you solved it already, at least keep this in mind for future reference. IPA is never the best thing to use to clean any metal surfaces. It's corrosive.... De-ox spray is the best.