TSM4 Sniper Setup

[@Roger101Watson]

Huge thanks for the many hours of time you have taken in creating these 'how to' videos on TSM4 and of course the older TSM3. It make a massive difference to me and many others.

[@Fonnix-]

Doubt you'll respond as this is a super old video but how would you go about modifying this sniper string to be used for classic. I got a string off reddit and just took out 2 zeros from each of the prices to adjust it for classic prices but not sure if that works.

[@aBlackMage]

Same, I would love a string for classic.

[@oxoenigmaoxo]

@@aBlackMage should we just lower every number?

[@aBlackMage]

@@oxoenigmaoxo I've tried lowering the numbers so they range from 10g to 10s, but I'm getting absolutely nothing on a full server. No idea why it's not working.

[@AdamGlenHolman]

@@aBlackMage I tried the same thing. I reduced the numbers but still have nothing showing up in the snipe. I'd love to hear if someone figures this out!

[@TheHaiku2]

This is such a good video. I've watched it a few times, and referenced it multiple times. Really looking forward to your auctioning video!

[@developermct]

Agreed!

[@sweetlou1501]

I agree, awesome video. I do have a problem though. I copy past the sniper string and hit enter and it reverts to the default string. I have tried making another operation and it did it there also. This thread is a year old, so i hope you still watch it.

[@staypuff4474]

I've got the same problem, not sure what happened?

[@DW-yx1pw]

for classic wow economy what should i factor down the thresholds down to compared to this string for this video? maybe edit down to a factor of 100 for all thresholds? appreciate your opinion

[@Panzerbjrn]

That's going to vary a lot depending on your server. On my server, I need to bring it down to 0.1% :-D

[@Cirosh]

Pretty much a perfect guide with no useless information and overall logically structured. Well done!

[@jocko_05]

The amount of time and knowledge that you have is astounding. My hat goes to you. Well done. I greatly appreciate your videos and links for TSM. Thank you.

[@KimoChaser]

Thank you so much, what a grand guide for new people trying TSM looking forward more of your work.

[@magus9403]

Thank you very much for this, I checked a handful of videos but was always getting errors with their guides, yours worked one try no problem! Appreciate it!

[@tchamikos]

First you do eveything on the Default operation, then you suddenly have a new one called crafting sniper with a new string, I tried to copy that but as soon as i add that to your protection group the protection group disappears from the Default operation, seems like I can't have both on the same group, how do I fix this?

[@chriss4647]

I used the sniper string, however I get nothing showing up in my sniper even after an hour of scanning. Am i doing something wrong

[@alexanderoprea9993]

same issue

[@kaedeharakazuha4607]

No one is making any mistakes

[@rafansan1]

do this step first kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKeQe5h_oNJ2facm45s\

[@dr.g6613]

same here

[@juanrossi6591]

can u fix it?

[@Purrre]

I cannot find the import/export in my tsm the addon looks completely different now than 4 years ago

[@brat4300]

How can we convert this to use in Classic?

[@chadhorsley2245]

You are amazing! Thank you so much and just a few changes you suggested have made scanning a much more enjoyable experience. Thank you for all of your hard work!

[@atoering]

Thanks for taking the time to do this. Tremendously helpful!

[@jashazzard]

Under settings - shopping/sniper- I have a setting called Buyout Confirmation alert. There is a default string in there as min(100000g, 200% dbmarket) I just wondered if this needs to be changed or not?

[@Xionik1234]

This is another wonderful TSM safety feature. What this will effectively do for a newer goblin is pop up a confirmation window on your shopping tab of TSM anytime you are about to buy something that is priced on the AH for more than twice it's value. So sometimes you might be rolling your mouse scroll wheel and not fully paying attention and accidentally buy some stuff that was way too expensive after you've cleared out and bought all the cheaper stuff. So for a beginner, the lowest number of min(100000g, 200% dbmarket), will almost always be using the 200% dbmarket part, it will take a while before you start flipping stuff over 100k, so that would rarely be used in the beginning but you could lower it to 25000g or 50000g but I don't that that should be necessary. I think most people should be happy with the default there. Never hurts to adjust the settings though if your particular play style warrants it. Like if the confirmation window is popping up too much for your liking, change it to whatever risk threshold you want.

[@bas182341]

As soon as i fill in the "custom price source" it says: invalide price source.it looks like youre trying to reference an old global price source which no longer exists

[@Devildog0491]

Extremely well put together video with perfect amounts of detail. Thank you!

[@chadtietjen4794]

Sheyrah thank you sooo much for what you have done here! You saved me so much time and headaches. You are awesome!!!

[@Xionik1234]

Thanks man

[@michaelwenmanK7USN]

have done a copy/past into /macro to switch between 2 profiles, but it will only make sure I'm in Default and NEVER will go over to the sniper profile.

[@wakeboarder39]

Hi There, Is there a video you know of or that you could create to show the process of this tool but with lower amounts for people getting into it? Or would we have to just adjust the values in the coding to what we can do/afford at the start

[@cerstaxx5283]

The operation doesn't work for me. :c

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

I really wish TSM4 would allow you to click on the Item in the sniper window and see how many other auctions are priced similar. Most say 1 auction... then checking in WOW default UI there are 8 more at the same price.

[@Xionik1234]

If you are uncertain of the market and if there might be others on the AH already posted at lower prices, just shift and click on the item and it will search the entire AH to show you whats there. Sure it will take an extra second or so to do that search and you may lose the opportunity to buy that item, but if you arn't sure and can't tolerate the risk, just do the search.

[@totallynottrademarked5279]

@@Xionik1234 I got burned a couple times. Thanks for the reply. Seems to be an ongoing issues in TSM4 for me. Also tried auctionator and it does the same thing. Shows nothing posted but the default UI shows all of the auctions that are up.

[@swettzor5312]

Thank you so much! TSM is working great with the strings you posted and a great guide!

[@kubilaytopaloglu4910]

This is absolutely perfect! Thank you so so much for the video and great explanation. Sometimes people make guide videos and I feel so stupid that I can't put the things in the same order as the guy on the video does. But this on this video you tell everything in a very basic way, which is great.

[@Sofakingsecksea251]

first of all this is an excellent guide. I would like to know if you will update it because tsm does not work the same way with the columns ext.

[@mokazinogre9077]

in sniping operation, how do you switch between #default and other moperation added? Or does it search in all of the operation?

[@patrickknowles855]

Are you just pasting the following under Sniper operations? ifgte(ItemQuality, 1, ifgt(minprice, 250000g, 80% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 100000g, 70% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 50000g, 60% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 10000g, 50% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 5000g, 30% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 1000g, 10% minprice, 0c)))))), 0c) - then do you run the buyout sniper? Thanks!

[@wernerbayer6538]

How would an operation look like if I want to say: max(100000g, 115% dbregionmarketavg) but never higher than 200k. How can I add a condition to my operation that is saying: not higher than?

[@Oxmosh]

I still have some white items with a huge region market price showing up, they might be new items since the video was out or something but does anyone have a fix?

[@chebichevinovichskic]

I love your work, really, no one puts as much effort into their videos to make them as intelligible as this. cheers ma'm, keep it up!

[@TonyWickham-m6m]

Is there any way to get this working with ungrouped items in 2023? I read somewhere you can't use sniper on base group anymore and when i try to run the snipe, it's telling me sniper isn't associated to any groups but it definitely is to base group.

[@larm5000]

Hi thanks for the video, please can you upload a new video with all this info updated? and a group for manage all this, I search for groups in TSM webpage, but is not quite clear for me, thanks

[@lo0nytntwow]

does this still work? I hit start sniper and have got nothing

[@Thelufe2000]

same

[@bquirky23]

only just came across these awesome vids , will you be making any classic tsm videos ?

[@xeoas213]

is it normal that I ONLY get stuff from the sniper protection group? shouldnt it be the other way around?

[@SeanRogan1]

Is there a reason you wouldn't want DBmarketavg in the minprice string? I have had items show up that show as a great deal 29% of dbregionmarketavg yet on my server it is above the average price.

[@KennethMlbk]

Thank you. Your videos and TSM pastbins has really helped me.

[@jessemachuca]

I followed your instructions to the T, the only thing that i have a problem with is that when i click to snipe there are no items showing up in the window. If i choose to go back to the blizzard UI, i see items in the auction house that showed up, but I can not bid on them or see any regional data.

[@Xionik1234]

When you are looking at the blizzard UI while running sniper, those are every single item that is being posted to the last page of the AH, which is the first page of the AH. The sniper string is basically running it's sniper string against all those items and if they match the criteria on your sniper string they will show up on your sniper window. So all those items being posted that you see on the default AH are not matching your sniper string because they are either excluded from showing up in sniper (depending on how you have your sniping groups set up) or because they are a higher price and not actually a good deal so it is not recognized by your sniper string as a good deal. Feel free to try a different sniper string if you like to get a better feel for it. You can use 50% dbmarket or something simple like that and adjust. You won't find many things actually showing up in sniper with my set up, because its only looking to grab the awesome stuff and people don't make those sweet mistakes all that often, which is why I suggest running sniper on the side while you are doing something else. You can go hours with nothing showing up depending on your server and time of day, that is normal. Perhaps you want to set up a sniping group to grab BFA mats that are posted super cheap to flip as well, which is what I do. This is just the way sniper is. There are less and less people playing the game and a higher percentage of those left playing the game are using some sort of AH addon, making is less likely for people to make mistakes. More stuff used to show up in sniper but these days, that's just the way it is now.

[@MrCelt17]

Is this video still relevant in patch 8.3? Just ran through the setup but the sniper wont pick up anything, I'm on the highest pop realm aswell so I'd imagine there'd be at least something showing up rather than nothing at all

[@maxxieivanoff9004]

Hello, ty for great guide, but i have a few questions. Diring video i noticed that u have diffrent sheymin, sheymax and sheynorm formulas from what u give and show to us - why u have another % there for example before " first(min(DBMarket, 150% DBRegionMarketAvg)" and why dont u use 110% before "VendorSell". where i can know about that more? Also notice that u use 70%avg in filter line in settings/general option instead of dbmarket - can u pls explaine what for and why??

[@front243]

It is taking the min of DBMarket or 150% Dbregionmarket. It is to prevent that somebody has manipulated the prices higher on your realm

[@maxxieivanoff9004]

TY

[@bilcifer666]

For hours I have re-watched this and the sniper screen always stays black. I don't know what's up but it doesn't appear to want to work.

[@Xionik1234]

Put a sniper operation on there like this: 200% dbregionmarketavg that will show you every single item that gets posted on the AH to get a feel for how much stuff actually is being posted in any period of time. then drop it to 50% and have a look then drop it to 25% and have a look If all that stuff works, then the sniper string also works, it just might be that not much stuff is showing up there very often. Maybe you want to add in some BFA raw mats and have them show up on sniper and flip that stuff. You won't find a lot of stuff showing up on sniper in general with the sniper string the way it is in the video, that's the whole point of it. Most people only want to see the stuff they can flip for 5k+ gold profit per item, those scenario don't happen too often but my sniper set up with capture only those awesome items. You also have to keep in mind that more people are using addons like TSM to post stuff and less likely to make mistakes. Also less people overall playing the game right now, so less opportunities for players to make mistakes for you to grab on your sniper window.

[@bilcifer666]

@@Xionik1234 Thank you for the reply, it fixed it :)

[@lepeupledoitsavoir1659]

hello.sorry to bother you.i m using your setting for a long time now, but with the new update on the AH,my sniper does not snipe anything anymore...do you have any clue about what happened?i spent hours and hours on cechking everything, i dont understand what went wrong.sorry for my english, i m from france^^.thank you anyway for your work on this add on.

[@XxGxRxUxNxTxX]

The creaters of the TSM said they arent going to release another version for vanilla. Auctioneering and AUX existed in vanilla but its bad for sniping. Does anyone know of more addons for sniping in vanilla?

[@freeop]

Always looking for your videos. Thanks for you work on these.

[@p_dubbsssyt]

if lower the blue percentaage is that better or worse? is higher blue percentage worse?

[@darrylwells2673]

As a new user to TSM4 this is gold. but is the list on the protection group up to date with shadowlands?

[@unknowwn1990]

@xionik1234 i did everything that was said in this video , watched it twice and now nothing pops up in sniper...at all. whats wrong??

[@Xionik1234]

Nothing shows up ever? That is impossible if you set it up right. Something might not show up in 20 min, 1 hour or even a few hours perhaps in the dead of the night on a low pop server. Easy way to test is just change the sniper operation to 500% dbregionmarketavg, that effectively will show you every single item that gets posted on your AH in real time, on your sniper window, so you get a feel for how much stuff is posted on your AH in a period of time, then drop it to 70% dbregionmarketavg, get a feel for that, then drop it to 15% dbregionmarketavg and get a feel for that. When your TSM is set up to truly look for those amazing deals, you won't be finding tons of stuff showing up there. I think this is perhaps an issue with expectations. Does nothing really mean nothing or just not as much as you would like. The whole point of this video was to reduce the trash from showing up on your sniper window, so that will lead to much less stuff showing up on your sniper window than you are perhaps already used to, but what does show up, has a higher likelihood of being worth your time to consider actually purchasing.

[@Septin1983]

i created a custom source, copied the string in it and go to operation, sniper and default and copied the sniper string in it, than it say's "your custom price was incorrect"

[@tibob321]

don't know if you will respond to me but ive been doing all your stuff you just did but when i press Run Buyout sniper it take hour to find item .. its been 5 hour and still not find any item yet ..

[@Xionik1234]

If you are on a low pop server or running sniper in the dead of the night when most people on your server are sleeping, you won't find much at all. Now with the patch, people are coming back to the game for a while, so you should notice it pick up again. Overall not a lot of awesome stuff shows up on sniper anyway. I've explained this a lot more in some other people comments of this video who were experiencing similar things. Check those suggestions out.

[@torpzi]

i used to use this setup back in legion, now in bfa i cant get my sniper to work after 100 attempts, been trying with different strings and groups etc, but my sniper just seems to not wanna work. havnt got a single item popup on my sniper past 3 days :(

[@deadract]

yup having the same problem. followed their steps and nothing is coming up now

[@Xionik1234]

Perhaps try some other sniper strings and go from there. Mine may be too restrictive for you. Bilis actually updated his sniper string recently if you wanna have a look: www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/b4l8br/tsm_how_to_set_up_tsm_sniper_updated/

[@punkop.9712]

Is there going to be any videos about setting up TSM4 after patch 8.3? It could be me, but my sniper has never picked up a single item :/

[@asherroberts401]

Can someone help me, please? I'm not getting any deals, I'm just getting trash for 1-3 silver

[@Horroz]

Same here, did you ever figure it out?

[@catpokemon2236]

is it normal for the sniper to take >5 minutes to load?

[@ShigityTTV]

Well done video but did they remove buying mats below matprice? I used to use that in TSM3 very often and do not see that option anymore. If they did remove it, what is the easiest way to add that and make buying below matprice part of my operations? Thank you for your time.

[@user-gz4lv1gm6u]

Thanks so much for the video! One question, though. I made most of my profit before from BFA herbs and ores that were listed way below average. They don’t show up at all any more on my sniper, but I can still see some pop up if I watch WoW UI instead. Is there anyway to make the herbs and ores still show up on my Sniper, but keep the rest of the coding?

[@Xionik1234]

Did you use dbmarket as your source or fixed prices for your BFA ore and herbs. Set a fixed price for those in both a shopping operation and a sniper operation. Adjust as time goes on. Once dbmarket is more stable, then you can switch to dbmarket. There were some issues with things saying they were gone on the sniper and shopping window on TSM4 but they were really still there on the default AH. I believe that issue has been fixed now.

[@cyberstonks]

can you tell me how to set a fixed price for those in both a shopping operation and a sniper operation so that they show up in sniping? I'm new to TSM and extremely noobish.

[@PresidentOfSpace]

Thanks so much for the help setting this up, can't thank you enough. Would've taken me, i dont even know how long to figure all of this out. Sidenote, and very small detail worth maybe mentioning, in TSM under operations/default/posting, you list here the things to copy-paste in as "minimum, normal, maximum' in that order. In the actual TSM in-game, they're a different order, top to bottom "Minimum, maximum, normal" Being the noob i am, i accidentally pasted it in the order listed in the description of the video, into TSM, meaning my normal price and maximum price string got reversed until i realized later. Not sure how important that is but felt like it was worth mentioning

[@Xionik1234]

Yeah in game the order is minimum, maximum, normal, whereas in my pastebin it is minimum, normal and maximum. Sorry for the confusion. I'm not sure why TSM has it ordered like that to be honest.

[@gregdancy9933]

Love your guides, is there a particular value source to use for Settings->SHopping/Sniper -> Market Value Price Source or Buyout Confirmation Alert? My settings are currently set to MVPS = DBMarket, BCA = min(100000g, 200% dbmarket) would this be correct?

[@Xionik1234]

That is a new feature and it's awesome. It is fine by default, so it will ensure you never buy something that is more than 100,000 or twice market value without prompting a confirmation window. So many times I accidentally got carried away rolling my mouse scroll wheel and bought something that was way too expensive, this will prevent that from occurring again. You can lower the 100,000g to 50,000g, or whatever limit you want.

[@1987Bandar]

Hey Sheyrah thank you for the amazing guide. I followed it and sniper is running perfect. I am currently having an issue however with making TSM ignore random item stats for mogs. I have set up a group with the ignore item enchants box ticked but every time I try to post anything from that group on the AH TSM seems to just ignore the items in it and says done scanning even though it hasn't scanned any of the items nor has it tried posting them. I've tried looking for a solution online and couldn't find any. Even joined a TSM discord server where nice people tried helping me out but we couldn't figure out what I have wrong on my TSM. Tried doing the same on another TSM profile in case I had messed something up on the sniper one but had the same issue. On the off chance you read this I'd be very grateful for your insight on how I could bypass this problem. P.S if I take the items out of the group it posts fine but it doesn't ignore the random stats so it only undercuts items with the same stats which most of the time aren't the cheapest one for that mog. many many thanks

[@Xionik1234]

There are certainly more people having that issue, it's not related to my imports, its just the random enchant/base group stuff, it sometimes acts wonky and I have never seen a solution anywhere for why it works for some items and not for others. Wish I could help but I have no idea. It's a thing though, you are not crazy. I think this problem started when they introduced scaling, it messed up some stuff like this.

[@scrummpybear]

i know this vid is very old, but i keep getting an error saying the sniper opperation isnt assigned to a grp, but ive added it to the "base" grp as i dont have any grps setup, but it still wont run, any ideas?

[@baloghgabor]

Is it possible to add something like if region daily sold is lower than 0.04, dont show the item? Another question with example: if i want to snipe spirit of harmony, which has a dbmarket 500g, historical 450g, region matket 400g, but i still want to buy every one them which is under 380 gold, will it show up? Or i need to make a separeta group with a different sniper setting for it?

[@Xionik1234]

Sure you can but I wouldn't recommend it. You would be excluding a lot of really good deals. There are lots of items that have lower sale rates than can make you lots of gold. But if you really wanted to do that, just use something like this: ifgt(DBRegionSaleRate, 0.04, SniperString) which works out to this: ifgt(DBRegionSaleRate, 0.05, ifgte(ItemQuality, 1, ifgt(minprice, 250000g, 80% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 100000g, 70% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 50000g, 60% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 10000g, 50% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 5000g, 30% minprice, ifgt(minprice, 1000g, 10% minprice, 0c)))))), 0c))

[@baloghgabor]

Thank you, this is working. But it seems i have another problem now. All the items i have, and the ones which are showing up in sniper, they dont ignore "random variatons", so i cnt use the auctioning and the sniper module like this. All the ungrouped transmogs (which one are in the basegroup) have "of the Harmonious" etc after the name.

[@AxelRsK]

I'm on silvermoon (realm) and can't find anything with the sniper tool....

[@vefreas5566]

I've found stuff on silvermoon alliance but it takes a looong time before the first item appears each time im scanning and it was so far all in blue percentages. I'll update if I find sth with other percentages too

[@boremir3956]

Having a different sniper profile, does that mean I cant include certain groups with their own operation to sniper anymore? I would like to have a bfa mat group with its own operation added to sniper, which is a more competitive market and needs a better operation than the sniper string.

[@GameFreak7744]

Pretty sure you can just create an extra group in the sniper profile for mats with its own operation to include mat sniping.

[@Xionik1234]

Just make a BFA group and toss a simple sniper operation on it like 70% dbmaket. pastebin.com/8a3HCcCg

[@atmosphere145]

If you cut off your sniper at minprice 1000g does that not ensure that you will never see trade goods such as herbs / ore / gems? Some of these only have a value of 50-300 gold but people post stacks of hundreds. I've personally sniped 200 stacks which people mistakenly put for 50g a stack instead of 50g a unit. It's pretty lucrative.

[@GameFreak7744]

You should be able to create a group for materials and use a different sniper operation for that group, no?

[@GameFreak7744]

Hm, I guess you'd want to factor in the min/avg sell price from your accounting data where possible when dealing with bulk items like this... Not aware of the option to check the volume sold, but I guess when sniping the simple minimum is enough? If it's shit you know will shift ok (and a lot of mats shift real quick) you could start with something real simple like this I guess: 75% min(Crafting, DBMarket, DBHistorical, minSell) When dealing with a bulk market all that really matters if that you're able to shift the shit _reliably_ for more than you bought it for, so really I'd guess it's just about dialing in the % against your minSell or avgSell so you are only seeing stuff worth grabbing. Probably also want your auctioning operation for these groups to factor in what you've paid to protect you from selling too low.

[@otacon1024]

Yep, it's also an issue if you're starting from scratch on a new realm and don't have a lot of capital. I just put the lower limit to 5g and filter out trash by region avg daily sold.

[@NotoriusBFG]

Just superb. I was staring at descriptions of how to use TSM and thinking "how am I not understanding any of this?" Well, no more! Going to check out your other stuff now.

[@aerowenn]

Is it pretty common for things to have a dip in value that seems volatile? I used sniper with these settings and bought a sword at 32%, went to relist and there were like 4 others at the same price from different players. Historical data showed it valued much higher, and there was a jump after those cleared out. What do you do in this case? List anyway, or hold on for the clutter to clear?

[@jamielhand1022]

when i go to Default>Operations>Posting to set min max and norm price its not copying and pasting ..for example i deleted everything that was in the min box went back to the description box copy and went back to the game to paste after pasting and clicking on normal price everything that i pasted in the min box changes to something other than what i pasted. Is this okay? this is what it changes to.. max(0.25*avg(crafting,dbmarket,dbregionmarketavg,1.5*vendorsell)

[@Xionik1234]

must hit "enter" for it to stick, if you click away, it doesn't work and reverts back to original

[@IPwnYoU59]

Always appreciate the videos you make, thank you!!

[@wernerbayer6538]

Hello Sheyrah, I have a little question: is it possible to create the auctioning operation in a way so it posts auctions at a "fixed price" or a market average based price depending on whichever of those 2 is higher? and how would such a string for the normal price look like?

[@Xionik1234]

Max(fixed price, marketavgvalue) so, example max(250g, dbmarket). You can change the fixed gold number to whatever you want and you can change dbmarket to whatever you want.

[@wernerbayer6538]

thank you very much!

[@m.r.p5674]

Can the pastebin file be used for classic? I'd imagine it can and the extra data would just be useless, but harmless, clutter?

[@manpawtv4566]

When I try to paste the sniper string into the default, as soon as I hit enter or do any other action in there, it automatically goes back to that original default string... Any suggestions?

[@andreifalcas5679]

same here

[@joey-zo8ic]

hey! When i scan with sniper it wont show items, it justs says scanning and it does this for ages (20 mins) and it just keeps doing it. pls help :(

[@Cherubim666999]

it does that from time to time. especially since the AH update

[@joey-zo8ic]

@@Cherubim666999 so its still doing it, it does it every time i scan the AH

[@robib5280]

thanks a lot for the video but i get an error when i paste the sniper string. It says the custom price was incorrect. please try again

[@robib5280]

solved.... made a mistake with the minprice

[@blainejb7]

Great video. Went from completely illiterate with TSM4 to feeling confident that I knew what was going on. Thank you.

[@CoectSolutions]

Did everything you did on this video.. i snipe and keep sniping forever & nothing pops off - HELPP

[@CoDflosis2003PrO]

me too mate... nothing shows off on the sniper screen. Did the same as in the video, HELP!

[@juanrossi6591]

@@CoDflosis2003PrO +1

[@dr.g6613]

same here

[@SilentEulogy7]

Same here, nothing is happening. Do you have to apply the sniper operation to a premade group? Nothing is showing in sniper, at all!

[@Astul89]

you have, yes :)

[@WTFced]

Thank you for all your TSM guides , they are very helpfull

[@RequiosWoW]

How can I prevent from buying an item which has multiple items posted for that price? Like for example, I buy a transmog piece for 500g. It's market value is 1.5k or something, when I go and look at that item there are like 3 or 4 other items that are 500 gold and other items increasing all the way to the 1.5k+ value.

[@Xionik1234]

You can't, other than stopping sniper and checking the AH which obviously isn't ideal. If it was truly a good deal, there wouldn't be others sitting on the Ah cheap. Items on sniper that have lower end values with smaller profits, like an item being posted for 500g when it's value is 1.5k, is often left on sniper by more experienced goblins. More experienced goblins focus on items that have more extreme differences in actual posting price on sniper and actual end value. Try shifting away from lower end items on sniper to higher end items and you will encounter that situation much less frequently, if at all.

[@Meffistoe2]

for some reason I can't access the sniper protection string anymore. I used the link 3 days ago and all was fine and today I can't access the web site

[@Xionik1234]

Yeah I've heard some people can't access it depending on what country they are from. Hit me up on discord and I'll give you a text format of it you can use instead. The TSM woweconomy discord. discord.gg/woweconomy

[@furikurifan5]

Earlier I saw my bid sniper bring up something with 144% as the percentage. Any idea what that's about? From the video I was under the impression the % would always be under 100

[@Xionik1234]

Did you have other groups perhaps with another sniper operation? That should not happen otherwise.

[@furikurifan5]

Ah, maybe I was on my other profile. That would explain it.

[@laurids2826]

I have done all you said... But I still get offers where i can buy it for 99g and can sell it for 100g.. Why?

[@DoomMachineGaming]

I don't mean to be a dick (ultimately will turn out to be, but - meh) - but are there going to be videos for Operations advise? Thanks in advance!

[@juanrossi6591]

my tsm dont find anything.. i put "30% dbregionmarketavg" dont find 1, it try a lot of configurations and never see 1 item on the sniper, i got the desktop app and nothing work.. idk how fix it..

[@Xionik1234]

try 500% region, you should get tons of stuff showing up, just for testing purposes.

[@okinzemog]

how do i combine the two sniper strings you mentioned? It appears you have one in the post information and one as a crafting protection.. do they both run simultaneously or how does that setup work?

[@Xionik1234]

There is the main sniper setup which is making the minprice custom price and then putting in the long sniper string into the base sniper operation. The sniper operation that comes with the import, I have already done all that for you so you don't have to worry about that part. Yes they both run at the same time, the sniper protection operation I made for you is just there so you don't get tricked by other goblins. The main sniper is there for everything else in the game.

[@okinzemog]

Xionik1234 okay thank you! Is there any way of having an auction operation that doesn’t sell at either the TSM Min / Normal / Max? These don’t really seem to align with the Market/Historical/Region Historic values im seeing. Sometimes they do sometimes they don’t. Do you set your own prices most of the time?

[@bogumidu]

Is there a way to skip "finding auction" on sniper? Because i miss a lopt of deals by that and other snipers buy it bfore me. In TSM3 i didnt have this problem.

[@Xionik1234]

Sorry no, everyone has that.

[@robib5280]

How can i make, that i also get notified about bfa herbs and fish. They are well below the 1000g, so they never show up. But every once in a while people make a mistake or they just want to get rid of it quickly. thanks for helping

[@Xionik1234]

Just pop in a group with BFA raw mats and apply a simple sniper string to it like 70% dbmarket, that will work beautifully. pastebin.com/8a3HCcCg, i had though about including that in the video but it was already way too long.

[@milojones8508]

Is there anyway to filter out certain categories only? I don't have time to worry about all the little green/white items. I just want to Snipe Mounts/Toys/350 epics/Pet. Thanks

[@Xionik1234]

Level 1 battle pets, just use this: /battle pets/i1/i1 For 350 epics: /armor/epic/i350;/weapons/epic/i350 For mounts: /miscellaneous/mount For toys (mostly toys): /miscellaneous/other Or you can combine then all together if you wanted: /armor/epic/i350;/weapons/epic/i350;/battle pets/i1/i1;/miscellaneous/mount;/miscellaneous/other I was saving this kind of stuff for a video, so keep this on the down low lol

[@breddybower1]

where do i add this ? thx. /armor/epic/i350;/weapons/epic/i350;/battle pets/i1/i1;/miscellaneous/mount

[@Chrisalex40]

Hello, I assume the strings for the minimum, normal and maximum price in this video are to be only used for flipping from sniping right? What about just normal auction postings of crafted or gathered items? Do you have strings for those we could use? Thanks!

[@Xionik1234]

The selling strings (auctioning operations) sheymin, sheynorm, and sheymax are good for everything except super rare and expensive stuff. Then you might want to use my transmog operation for high value transmog. The auctioning operation for transmog is found here. Don't worry about understanding it, I just put the explanation there for those who were curious, the meat is at the bottom of the post twww.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/93hcpw/sheyrahs_transmog_operation_explained/

[@wernerbayer6538]

is it possible to tell TSM that it calculates minprice only by using (DBGlobalMarketAvg, DBGlobalHistorical) as a reference? And if so how am I going to do this?

[@Xionik1234]

You can use that instead of my string for minprice, that is your call but I am certain you won't like the results. But try it anyway so you can determine for yourself.

[@Lakaen]

Does anyone know how i can add the BFA crafted items to the excluded items? They seems to be half of my sniper lately

[@Xionik1234]

Import these BFA groups and put a sniper operation on them. www.reddit.com/r/woweconomy/comments/989x9m/tsm_bfa_profession_and_boe_groups_v20/ For the crafted stuff from BFA you can use the same sniper operation that you already have for pre BFA crafted stuff. For BFA raw mats, you might want to set up fixed prices for any of those items you want to see showing up on sniper.

[@Lakaen]

@@Xionik1234 Wooo! Thank you!

[@Nixxen]

Fair warning for anyone setting this up today, there are a few new items that are NOT included in the "crafted" filter. I only realized after buying 3 of them that it was a crafted item. Most items ARE included, but not all, so double check just to be sure, and add them to the list as you find them.

[@PunkyVoodoo]

I am finding literally nothing is coming up even after around 10 minutes, I guess I am just getting unlucky

[@letmesmashbeggy2076]

Hey, may i ask how you post up ur Sniped Stuff on the Ah after sniping it? Posting it all single takes me a long time :(

[@Xionik1234]

That is included in the end of the video, it's the sheymin, sheynorm and sheymax for selling operations.

[@letmesmashbeggy2076]

Found it and works now ty :)

[@DaddoxD]

Hi, i've tried this setup for my sniper but i seen to not be getting any results even with prolongued sessions of sniping, ofc in the day time around 6pm-12pm. i have no idea how to make it work, i'm using it on a completely virgin account and following every step.

[@joesin1994]

Yeah I screwed up my TSM up too following this.

[@Xionik1234]

Since BFA launched, nearly all players are lazer focused on BFA stuff. Also the AH is kinda broken since BFA launch, so people arn't posting much outside of BFA stuff. Once the AH gets back to normal and players get through the BFA content, and BFA market values stabilize, sniper will work much better.

[@DaddoxD]

@@Xionik1234 thanks a Lot. I was going crazy because i thought i messed up something in The setup of The sniper. Have a Nice day

[@jayandrade9768]

First off, thank you so much for this. I’m curious about something: is there any reason why this shopping string can’t be used outside of sniper? Would it be good for flipping high value items like boe, mounts etc? What would you recommend if not? Also, what shopping operation would be good for trade goods?

[@sillygumpee5121]

I did the instructions. some snipes showed up after a few minutes. I bought one that looked, OK (never done this before so I dont know) but it was a low 28% and so I felt comfortable. I decided to go get my item to relist it and see if it was working. I went to go post and it said it was under the market min and wouldnt post. I looked at the other auctions and there are 4 more on the market that are the same price as the one I bought and just a little higher. Do these need to sell first? what if they dont?

[@Xionik1234]

Sniper only looks at the last page of the AH, which is the most recently posted items, it does not have a clue about the older items already on the AH. So you bought something you thought was a good deal, looks like it probably wasn't, you wait for the lower ones to sell and then try to sell yours, or just consider it a learning experience and try to recoup as much as you can. It takes a while to get to know the value of items and when something it a really good deal. Eventually you will know instantly if its a good deal to flip, there will be mistakes in that learning process like you just made, so while learning, only gamble with those cheaper items, never buy something expensive to flip unless you are absolutely sure.

[@limulo88]

awesome video thanks! I noticed even if you import the sheyrah group you have to manually set sniper operation of "Sheyrah sniper protection" group to "crafting sniper" with "override parent operation" as it is on "default" by default, not sure I was clear lol

[@Xionik1234]

There is a bug with importing, in that it doesn't always attach the operation with the import and will just apply the default operations instead. Glad you noticed it and fixed it. The TSM team is aware of this and will fix it at some point.

[@Buffnerd_i]

Does this work for wotlk classic nowadays?

[@Andykeee]

Can you write TSM4 sniper string?

[@ebm245]

Thanks for the amazing video! Specific to the auction min price string, I am using the string you suggested and set it to not post the item if it doesn't qualify. Generally any items not posted I throw into the guild bank to try again at a future time. Do you or anyone know if there is a way through warehousing to restock or only pick and move items to my bags that are above that auctioning min price qualifying string?

[@Xionik1234]

I don't think so but it's a great idea, perhaps you can suggest it to see if they would consider implementing it in the future. Great idea on putting the transmog back in the bank that are currently lower. I have so many people so anxious to undercut everything, when right now, transmog is so cheap, it just makes more sense to do what you are doing.

[@tammytreit3877]

I made 8k WHILE watching this video, lol. Sniped a lower level BoE and turned around and sold it for 8k more in Trade Chat before this video even finished. Great video and explanations.

[@brandonruggles816]

I'm confused. I still don't understand why I would want to swap between multiple profiles every time I want to snipe ... This seems like such a massive hassle. Swapping profiles any time you want to do something? Why not just add the operations to existing groups?

[@Xionik1234]

You can put it on your main profile if you want. If you only have a few groups it's really no big deal but if you have lots of groups with lots of subgroups within subgroups, it can be easy to overlook a section that might not have a sniper operation applied if you have enabled the override operation option either intentionally or accidentally. That would cause you to miss out on a lot of potential deals. It was explained why in the video. It was just a suggestion to cause the least amount of harm to the most amount of players. If you want to use your main profile, go right ahead. Swapping between profiles is just a simple click anyway, so no big deal either way.

[@brandonruggles816]

That's a very food point. Thanks for the explanation; I wasn't totally certain as to why! Looking forward to your next video!