Back in 2002/2003 I build a 43Gbps BERT when I worked at Ixia (now part of Keysight). I lead a team of about 10 people (mostly software people) and I did all the analog circuit design. It won some award for best new test equip of the year, and made the cover of EE Times magazine (Dec 2, 2002). But just as we were rolling it out in 2003, the US invaded Iraq. This lead to a recession, all the start-ups in the emerging 40G market went bust, and the project was cancelled. The last time I saw the prototype it was sitting on a shelf in the lab, gathering dust. Bummer.
@steverobbins48725 жыл бұрын
@@aphenioxPDWtechnology It was NRZ. It used an SF5 interface (I hope I remember the right name) there were 17 lanes, at 2.5Gbps each: 16 data lanes, and one alignment lane. I designed plug-in modules for series (combine all the lanes into one) or parallel interfaces on both inputs and outputs. Part of the analog design was the ability to adjust the phases of all the lanes, which I did with PLLs. Each lane had its own PLL that multiplied-up the 125MHz reference clock, and I used a DAC and transconductance amplifier to feed a bias current into the loop filter of each PLL to adjust its phase. The SF5 mux and demux chips were GaAs, and made by some start-up whose name I can't remember now. But the demux had bias inputs that allowed me to adjust the voltage threshold and sample time, so I could move them around and see how the error rate changed; you need that to produce the contours of the eye diagram. A lot of fancy math there too: basically you decompose the jitter distribution into a series of best-fit normal distributions, kind of analogous to a Fourier series, then you can use this series to extrapolate down the skirts, into the really low bit-error contours in the middle of the eye. I'm probably going on too long, but you might find this next part funny. We unveiled the BERT at a small trade show in San Jose (I think it was called Opticon) and our competitor, Spirent, unveiled theirs too at a booth a few feet from ours. A Spirent engineer came into our booth and the first thing he did was put his hand over the air exhaust vent to feel how hot it was. The air was barely warm, and so he proclaimed that our demo was fake. But I eventually convinced him it was real. I guess they had thermal issues, but I was too polite to feel their exhaust. And our unit was less than half the volume of theirs.
@RiyadhElalami5 жыл бұрын
@@steverobbins4872 That is so cool, I long to being able to design instruments like that. And by the way I would have read a book written by you about stuff like that.
@steverobbins48725 жыл бұрын
@Mai Mariarti Our target market was companies that made fiberoptic transceiver modules, and 40G network gear..
@flinxsl5 жыл бұрын
They are full on data converters with sample rate/bandwidth higher than the channel being tested with DSP tacked on
@pratwurschtgulasch66624 жыл бұрын
today you can download an app on your phone that does the same thing :D
@HORNET600MX5 жыл бұрын
I repaired the same power supply of the same equipment some years ago. Although it is a very complex and dense design, it was easy and fun to fix it. That small PCB bar that connects all the secondary boards is the fault signal. In my case, one of the boards was asserting that signal during power-up, telling the primary side to shut down. I removed one secondary board at a time to find out which one had the problem. Then I found a couple of zener diodes in short-circuit on the damaged board. After replacing them, it started to work again.
@SomnolentFudge5 жыл бұрын
that modular transformer in the PSU is beautiful. I'm surprised I've never seen one used in a bench power supply, with the flexibility in ratios and isolation between channels it seems like a perfect choice.
@KX365 жыл бұрын
@MichaelKingsfordGray What about it gives it poor magnetic coupling?
@mohinderkaur66715 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You are definitely a genius the way you got that BERT to work!
@EngineeringVignettes5 жыл бұрын
Nice bit of kit. I'm working with a cPRI project right now, that Bert would come in handy to check on the clock recovery system... We are not really going over rate 8 right now so 10 Gbps would be fine. Cheers,
@mikesradiorepair5 жыл бұрын
Have to hate when a "Cat Scan" dosent reveal the problem. :-)
@thekaduu5 жыл бұрын
Around 5:43... I thought I was having audible alarms from my machines (servers and security system) and had to check logs... etc. for 15 mins or so. After another 15 mins to check what can trigger audible alarms (and finding nothing out of the ordinary!) I came back and resumed the video to find out the "alarms" were coming out of the video. The distance of the meter to the microphone and microphone itself makes EXACTLY the same sound with pitch, depth and distance from where I'm watching the video and where my machines are. That's 30 mins of my life I'll never get back :) Sucks to be a dumb ass, I guess.
@JWH35 жыл бұрын
At least you get to laugh about it afterwards, wild goose chases suck!
@craigs52125 жыл бұрын
Had a similar condition with my PC -- it beeped a couple of times -- checked the logs no problems, while later it beeped again -- now its driving me nuts. Time for bed so I turnd the pc off, few minutes later I was walking past my office and it beeped again -- no way the dam thing is off -- turns out it was a pager in my desk drawer with a dying battery with the same exact sound.
@gustavlicht96205 жыл бұрын
V cables for 13 Gbps signal? That's a bit of an overkill, but the customer gets what the customer specs (hopefully :) ). It is a nice and compact piece of equipment.
@douro204 жыл бұрын
If this were a design from just a few years later the front end would had probably been implemented in a couple of FPGAs.
@fbnx42195 жыл бұрын
Completely irrelevant, but: You missed the +24V fuse
@dtiydr5 жыл бұрын
He missed 5 fuses, the 24V was one of them.
@jabelsjabels5 жыл бұрын
Now all you need is the Agilent ERNIE
@IxIVVI5 жыл бұрын
Nice hack! Super interesting power supply - thanks for the great contend!
@danielegger64605 жыл бұрын
I laughed quite a bit at cat scan. Well done, sir. ;)
@jeffraunec2 жыл бұрын
Wish I knew what reason we needed to look at stuff like this. (Obv I’m not an EEngineer. lol) but it looks super cool any way
@ddrl462 жыл бұрын
Do you by any chance happen to have any more information / pictures on the cables attached to the lambda power supply? I got one of these units with a broken power supply which I've repaired, however the person who tried to repair it last disconnected all cables from the power supply without marking any of them... I was able to trace most of the cables on the top two rows of the modules, however the ones below are quite hard to make out from the video.
@PlasmaHH5 жыл бұрын
I can imagine that in the software there is somewhere a calibration setting for the error theshold voltage, you just need to find it and reconfigure it to whatever is generated. In fact I would guess that something is really wrong in that area, because why would both modules do the same?
@jfbeam5 жыл бұрын
Because they're both connected to the same power rails. When it spiked(?) it likely fried both of them.
@TheXGamer9695 жыл бұрын
jfbeam But the cable from the front panel was only connected to one of them? Or do you mean overvoltage from the PSU?
@superdau5 жыл бұрын
Because the modules aren't the final step in checking the input threshold voltage. If the circuit after the modules got whacked, even two 100% working modules won't fix the problem. And as Shariar said, without documentation there's not really a chance to figure that out.
@mrlithium695 жыл бұрын
@18:38 when you touch the Delay Ctrl In terminator, the status lights on the display screen start flashing, maybe its a bad connection.
@mrlithium695 жыл бұрын
nevermind i see later on @ 30:37 you changed out most of the terminators for different ones, and also did the identical module swap so it wouldnt be that.
@meepk6335 жыл бұрын
That transformer design is neat.
@ashave91005 жыл бұрын
Hi Thank you, great video -but can I ask you, "What happens if you ask it to test a really nice hot cup of earl grey tea" ?
@thomasw61695 жыл бұрын
Cat is not interested in BERTs. Great.
@DavidMG992 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@lucrativesasquatch25395 жыл бұрын
42:16 red regions are not BER of 1, they're BER of 0.5.
@electronic79795 жыл бұрын
Useful video 👍
@peppem94marsala5 жыл бұрын
Just to have an idea, this used instrument costs over 20k euros !
@paulnero38855 жыл бұрын
I think he got the on from eBay that sold for about 130$, so quite a deal
@AI7KTD5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video!
@REALIVH5 жыл бұрын
He said catscan when the cat walks by
@rherotet5 жыл бұрын
Compare and contrast: Chesterton's Fence and Chesterton's Fuse.
@inductorbackemf72045 жыл бұрын
Great video friend! Always gotta love switching power supply's (: Alex.
@douro205 жыл бұрын
25 amps at -5.2 volts...must have a lot of ECL circuitry in it.
@uploadJ5 жыл бұрын
Si-Ge bipolar can be current hungry too ...
@douro205 жыл бұрын
@@uploadJ Yes but I don't think this uses SiGe. More likely GaAs or InP. And -5.2V is a very common supply voltage for ECL logic. It also has to be tightly regulated since such circuits have a very small switching threshold; this is why the -5.2 supply is adjustable.
@uploadJ5 жыл бұрын
You would be surprised what is being done with SiGe today; I don't know of any designs in telecom equipment that uses ECL today. At Cisco/Navini (10 yrs back w/WiMAX radio basestation) we used several SiGe chips. I used to work in TI GaAs Facility before TI sold it to TriQuint; I was DC test engineer so saw all the new designs the fab produced during design reviews. Comms related designs e.g. LNAs, WBDAs, cascaded Amps/Pwr Apps, switches, attenuators etc. nothing really power hungry. -5.2 VDC does sound like old ECL though. Was familiar at one time with Motorola (MECL) their 10K series. LVDS used in new SiGe fabbed chips, ft (transition freq) in the double-digit into triple-digit GHz range now for SiGe ... www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1AOHY_enUS708US708&ei=Lg-sXMKlOJK0jgT5_KnABw&q=SiGe+GHz+fiber&oq=SiGe+GHz+fiber&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i160.520266.540641..540787...3.0..0.336.2499.9j10j1j1......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i71j0i131j0i67j0i10j0j0i131i67j0i22i30j0i22i10i30j33i22i29i30j33i299.mokP-tfVeWY
@uploadJ5 жыл бұрын
"ECL in its true form is pretty much history. Single-ended ECL is almost extinct. High speed paths are typically implemented within deep sub-micron CMOS integrated circuits. The challenge that electronic desingners face today is high speed paths between chips. These paths are typically clock lines and data lines. Even though traditional ECL logic is no longer used, some of the advantages of ECL are so critical to high speed that designer just don't want to give up. " From: www.quora.com/Is-Emitter-Coupled-Logic-in-use-today
@AureliusR2 жыл бұрын
@@uploadJ yeah but this wasn't made recently, its an old instrument
@JWH35 жыл бұрын
No expense spared... As I glance at the floppy disk drive in the corner of the unit Gotta poke fun at that :)
@Flip-Flop-Rio5 жыл бұрын
Hi My Friend! This Op. System is Windows Xp?
@xConundrumx5 жыл бұрын
always green wire to turn on the PSU in these babies. Same like with every single PSU would be my guess. Just connect to GND.
@microfix60355 жыл бұрын
Way to go
@Martini_GP6 ай бұрын
It's made in Germany and obviously it's gonna be good 😂
@JustinAlexanderBell5 жыл бұрын
16:40 Cat
@truemorpheus5 жыл бұрын
If you send me the executables I can try to get rid of the error for you
@BruceNitroxpro5 жыл бұрын
Serban, Best offer I've seen for his woes! Go Serban!
@friedmule54035 жыл бұрын
Hi I hope that you take this comment as a friendly comment. You do make interesting videos that are entertaining, but I find your selection of gear, fare outside my budget and maybe also outside most other's budget. The unit in this video, is about 24,000$ used on ebay and that is not uncommon for the gear you talk about! Why do you go trough gear that nearly no one can buy? As I started to say, no critique but a friendly question:-)
@benjaminchung9915 жыл бұрын
I, for one, really appreciate the deep coverage of higher-end equipment than is normally accessible. We already have lots of videos on hobbyist use of what's easily affordable and accessible, but there's far fewer (dare I say only one) channels that discusses higher end test equipment in an approachable and understandable manner. Moreover, I especially appreciate the projects; I would never be able to reproduce them but I appreciate seeing them done and understanding more about how the domain works in a way that would be impossible without high quality test and measurement equipment.
@friedmule54035 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminchung991 Great comment, thanks, I do agree! :-)
@Thesignalpath5 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that nearly all my repairs are done on instruments I paid
@buildstoys5 жыл бұрын
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@pilifx5 жыл бұрын
Seeing an instrument like this running Adobe Reader and IE makes me sad. IE is probably there by default. But Adobe Reader somebody put there. This isn’t a PC. It doesn’t need people to install crap on it.
@Thesignalpath5 жыл бұрын
Philip Hofstetter Adobe is there because of the instrument software. It loads it’s manuals in Adobe.