*A viewer has shared the datasheet of the mystery Agilent ICs! From these we can judge the signal flow and operation of the module even better. The front-end ICs appear to be a mixer as well as a switch. This modifies slightly the operation of the T/R module which is interesting. Thanks also to all my Patreon supporters. You are amazing.*
@MIsam-fv9kb4 жыл бұрын
oh yes Dr. Shahriar with broken high-end RF equipment that's the best way to start my day
@AissaAzzaz4 жыл бұрын
It's quite remarkable what i learned in a couple of episodes from you athough i am a 2nd year ee student and i am not quite up to this stuff Trust me there's only few people that i could watch a video from them at 2:5 0am (Algeria) Btw caaaaaattttt
@mikeburch29984 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Your thought process is very methodical. Greetings from Arizona.
@xDevscom_EE4 жыл бұрын
Wierd, I got notification in email to previous video instead of this one. Blue smokes escaped, but magic S11-calibrated fingers fixed it :) Interesting insight about bridge circuit at the input port, I actually using this to calibrate resistance standards to
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
Strange!
@saintfather77574 жыл бұрын
Yes, me too. I got two email from Patreon previous video first and this video 1 min later)
@saarike4 жыл бұрын
Excellent repair and vid! Thank you.
@UR3IQO4 жыл бұрын
Dear Shahriar, thank you for the interesting video! It is always interesting to look inside those high end instruments. I want to add some details. The QFN chips with 4234 marks are mixers ( www.keysight.com/upload/cmc_upload/All/TC230P-1GC1-8234.pdf ). So, the signal travels from the bridge through the 4242 chips to the amplifier and then to the mixer. Those two blocks on the PCB (with 4234 chip, amplifier and 4242 chip) are two receivers. The 4242 chip I bet is a switch. I can not find its datasheet, but here is 4252 datasheet www.keysight.com/us/en/assets/7018-05380/data-sheets/5992-1779.pdf and the PCB connections match perfectly for it. Probably those switches are used for calibration purposes.
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@brendonbentley66174 жыл бұрын
That 4234 is a fantastically wideband Gilbert cell mixer! :-) Unfortunately these have not been available for a very long time. Are you aware of any alternatives that one can play with today? (I kind of wish it was broken just to see what Shahriar would conjure up to stuff in there :-)
@anmingren87474 жыл бұрын
believe it or not. i am in China copying this pcb. and you are right.
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
@@anmingren8747 Do not copy the PCB. That is intellectual theft.
@brendonbentley66174 жыл бұрын
@@anmingren8747 You may learn that there is more to this than to simply create a copy. Excellent RF performance is seldom achieved without fundamental understanding. The Smith chart is a two dimensional projection (which extends to infinity in two dimensions) of a three dimensional reality (with the third axis being frequency). Furthermore, there is only one acceptable target impedance which traces a straight line through this solution space... Not so easy...
@keithlambell19704 жыл бұрын
Nicely done with the repair. That must have been a few Watts to cause that damage. Beautifully made modules.
@1st_ProCactus4 жыл бұрын
4.5 GHz That would be in your audio range, right ?
@t1d1004 жыл бұрын
Kudos! A great project and a great repair. I would have liked to have seen a close-up of the repaired components, with commentary on what you encountered in assembling them and how you worked around any issues... For example, as you said the components basically float above the board, maybe you assembled the resistors outside of the board and then applied the sub-assembly to the board... I am not saying this is what you did. I am only giving an hypothetical example to convey what additional information I would have found interesting and helpful. What happens to the units from alltest? Do you return the units to them? If so, what do they do with them? What kind of disclosure of the repair is made to the next owner? Just curious...
@amciaapple16544 жыл бұрын
What is the 65X resistor ? What does the X mean ?
@brendonbentley66174 жыл бұрын
65X = 46.4 ohm according to EIA-96 SMD Resistor Codes (look it up from a table). X means multiply the value (that you look up from your index, eg for index = 65 the value = 464) in the table with 0.1 This is a solution to the problem: "How do you convey the information required by 4 symbols if you only have the space available to write 3?"
@gordonwedman31794 жыл бұрын
"If it's not RF it's not interesting"
@czorgormez4 жыл бұрын
how did you choose that resistors ? are they regular 0805 or thin film, rf resistor etc ?
@bfx81854 жыл бұрын
Again nice simple repair ;)
@WisdomVendor14 жыл бұрын
Pooch's tail is connected to the source?
@steve_case4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the review of the ZNL6.
@SalvagedCircuitry4 жыл бұрын
Curious, how did you spec out the replacement components? Were the failed resistors 1% class and were the failed caps of tight tolerance? Is there any way to tell? Thanks.
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
I bought all components at 0.1% just to be safe.
@miketaing67737 ай бұрын
I have a 5071B Option 214 (2 ports) and have been using it for years. After I changed the motherboard system battery, the VNA booted with the wrong option, 413 (4 ports). Is there a way to revert it back to option 214 (2 ports).
@linhlharfm1801 Жыл бұрын
Thanks your video! Have you ever repaired E5061B network analyzer? I can't find the part number of the two components with the marking code 204 and the SHM at the RF port of the receiver board. If you know can you help me please :(
@avian64 жыл бұрын
If this board is using a simple Wheatstone bridge it should have a balun somewhere, no? You need a balun to produce an unbalanced reflected signal like we see on this board. I only see a resistive network. Is the balun hidden somewhere or is there something else going on here? Why is the bridge driven at two points?
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
Please see the comment of the datasheet of the mystery Agilent ICs. This makes things a little more clear. :)
@davidvb37544 жыл бұрын
Pouch is The Signal Pet :-)
@ilanyacobi29182 жыл бұрын
Great Work excellent repair job ! I have a E5071B on the bench now with two out four ports not working. Also trouble with computer not booting now ... any advise?
@yuchungchen526 Жыл бұрын
I have this network analyzer. However, when i power on, it can operate all and show wave picture. Buy it shows noise wave and alarm sound. Please help me what problems? Thanks
@colin74064 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you
@AaronHe-z6s Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the function of 6-resistor network around the SPDT 4242? I noticed that the SPDT is a reflectional switch, my only guess is that the resistor network can make the switch to reflectionless even in OFF mode. But with this resistor network, will the switch isolation performance degrade? Thanks a lot!
@egbertgroot27374 жыл бұрын
What is the use of bias tee?
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
It allows the user to provide a DC bias voltage at each port of the VNA towards the DUT without interfering with the RF path of the VNA.
@egbertgroot27374 жыл бұрын
@@Thesignalpath Where the DUT uses this to PIN diodes or varicaps or something?
@mmtao20452 жыл бұрын
the directional coupler is very simple .Does anyone know how this works or principle which is only by resistor and capacitance ?
@carlwedekind38684 жыл бұрын
Shahriar, I'll bet you were disappointed. Only obvious damage. Nice repair and probably one that I could accomplish. That microscope looked useful. Tried to match it up with pictures on AliExpress. Is it the ADSM302?
@ahmedshair13112 жыл бұрын
Useful and interesting video , I have the same unit E5071C , can you nominate a laboratory which performs factory calibration
@AaronHe-z6s Жыл бұрын
Does any one know that the what is the directivity performance of the resistor bridge coupler in the video? I ran a rough simulation in ADS, and the directivity is only about 7dB. Is it correctly? Thanks a lot!
@Ken-jq8ph4 жыл бұрын
i have 1ea E5071C error Phase lock look unlock and error SVC . can you make video fix error it?
@BrandonPoulton4 жыл бұрын
14:07 Cleanest ad I have ever seen!
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
The link to the product isn't even tracked. Its a direct link to AliExpress website. If this is an ad, I must be doing it wrong.
@BrandonPoulton4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your wonderful work! 4th year EE and I have yet to meet anyone with your depth of knowledge.
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonPoulton Thanks!
@AndrewZonenberg4 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Have you thought about doing full copper conductor repairs? You can get copper foil for this purpose that can be cut to shape (or even pre-cut to standard SMT land sizes), then attach with dry film or epoxy adhesive. * www.circuitrework.com/guides/4-2-1.html * www.circuitrework.com/guides/4-2-2.html This can be taken even further by filling the repair cavity with a 2-part epoxy that has a similar dielectric constant to the board substrate (AA-Bond F110, for example, is 4.3 so a fairly close match to FR-4) then sand/mill it flat before adding the new conductors on top of it. Clearly overkill for this application, but would be cool to see how tightly you can match the properties of the original.
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
You certainly can. In this case I didn't really need to do that. But it is a good idea to keep in mind.
@jeffreywilliams40124 жыл бұрын
Go Pooch!
@zoridattacks3173 Жыл бұрын
Can you put windows 10 on it?
@АндрейКоренев-ъ8ш4 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I wrong, this is perhaps the most common VNA in the entire industry.
@steve_case4 жыл бұрын
Андрей Коренев, Yes this is currently one of the most abundant models from Keysight. But the technology is old and this VNA is being replaced by the E5080B.
@Vintaginside4 жыл бұрын
The old 8753 series was also a mass seller.
@paulpaulzadeh61724 жыл бұрын
OMG , that dental sharp tool on R&S network analyzer display make my hair raise , I got goose bumps (@23:24), Shahriar , are those equipment paid by your salary ?!
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
You can’t tell from the video, but the tool is fairly far away from the screen.
@chrisscott15472 жыл бұрын
I had an Anritzu SA suffer the same fail due to a "guest" engineer turning on a transmitter at the wrong time. They would not provide the schematic, so I had them repair it. $9,000.
@tocsa120ls4 жыл бұрын
1:15 obligatory cat scan
@md.mostafakhan45294 жыл бұрын
4:33 Who wants to see a cockpit.
@Chris_Grossman4 жыл бұрын
Hard drives and all nonvolatile memory are removed and destroyed by melting in molten metal if an instrument is used for classified work. Often times there is nothing wrong with the instrument.
@AndrewZonenberg4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was my thought too, this probably was retired from a government lab. Annoying that they shredded the drive cage too, rather than only the drive itself.
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewZonenberg It must have been a lot easier to just toss the drive with its enclosure.
@paulpaulzadeh61724 жыл бұрын
that capacitor should be changed too , they are in "Signal Path " too .
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
They are not dissipating components, they are fairly safe thermally. They could break down due to huge DC or very very large AC.
@paulpaulzadeh61724 жыл бұрын
Such stress on those burned resistor, that capacitors definitely is not the same as new , old school like me would like freash cap, or re - cap those area
@PaulHigginbothamSr4 жыл бұрын
He talks so fast between the 13 to 14 minute mark i listen a few times to completely understand.
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
I am sorry, it is a combination of habit as well as limited time that I have to produce the videos.
@BruceNitroxpro4 жыл бұрын
Paublus Americanus AMERICANUS , true, but completely "in character." His mouth moves in concert with his mind... ultra-fast.
@saintfather77574 жыл бұрын
If you would like to repair old stuff like 18GHz HP 8672A I can give it to you free(NYC location). We need more videos)
@tlrptg4 жыл бұрын
don't put a mechanical harddrive in that thing. there are SSDs with IDE interfaces readily available, and some of them are industrial grade quality, virtually indestructable in normal, lab usage conditions.
@Thesignalpath4 жыл бұрын
I always replace them with SSDs. I was out of drives so I had to use a HDD for now. It can be changed later since it has the easy-swap drive.