TTJ: Cassius Marsh v Gabriel Luna v Nicholas v Blackneto | MTG Commander Gameplay episode 6

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DECKS SET TO MAXIMUM SPICE LEVEL!! Joe, Cassius, Gabriel, and Nicholas agree to a game with the most degenerate decks they had on them.
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[@TabletopJocks]

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[@carloromero5871]

I like Gabriel’s attitude, hope he remains a usual guest! Also I felt this video was a little bit crowded, but I am confident that this series will only get better and better!

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Love that your enjoying our show! We’ve always got a seat ready for Gabriel when he’s not off making blockbusters or game-changing television. We’re listening to the great constructive comments like yours and improving the show as we go. We’ll work on keeping the gallery guests more focused on the game. Appreciate the love!

[@dominusanimus5726]

Just want to start off by saying that I love the energy you all bring to the table. It's infectious and really showcases what commander is all about. I'm super glad you landed on your feet, even if you're still finding your stride. I took a scroll through the comment section, and keep seeing comments about rule zero not working/power levels being too uneven. I'd like to address both issues. First, to address the rule zero comments. Rule zero has nothing at all to do with deck power level. Full stop. It has to do with setting player expectations for the game they're about to play. If someone knowingly brings a lower power deck, and they're ok with it being lower power, rule zero hasn't failed. That seems to be the case here, so kudos to everyone involved. Now to address the power level discrepancy. Cassius' deck shouldn't have been sitting at this table at all. It's a straight up Thoracle cEDH list. Joe's deck, while tuned well, is far from a maxed out Kozilek. See the lack of clock of omens, metalworker, etc. People complaining about his Kozilek probably haven't played against one with multiple infinite mana outlets. On to Nicholas' Yuriko list! Same story as Joe's list here. It's a fairly powerful list, but it's lacking some of the most powerful synergies available to Yuriko. I'd say it's roughly on par with Joe's list. Now for Gabriel's list. The list itself isn't bad, but it lacks in ramp, card draw, cost reduction, and the ability to cheat costs altogether (really just mono-white things). I'd put it roughly alongside Joe and Nicholas' decks, maybe slightly under in terms of power. Conclusions? 3 of the 4 players were playing decks that belonged at the table together. Those 3 were playing combat centric decks, which all had equal opportunity to pop, and the 4th never got it's legs under it to combo out like it wanted to. Having said all that (and it's lengthy, I know), simply saying that all of the decks can pop off isn't really enough of a defense. Any deck, given room to do so, can pop. It's the consistency with which it can do so that tells its power. With that in mind, neither Nicholas', nor Gabriel's deck was ever going to be as consistent as the other 2. I'm not throwing shade, or anything like that. I was just wanting to maybe provide a bit of perspective to those who thought this was always going to be a one-sided game no matter what. To end (finally!), I think you guys did a fantastic job! Power levels were fine, excluding Cass' deck. Even that wasn't an issue, since everyone knew what they were in for. Much love! Keep up the good work! ✌️

[@TabletopJocks]

Thank you so much for this in depth look into this take. Took the words right from me! Thank you for rocking with me and taking the time out of your day for this!

[@wombleking]

I think if they played same match up again it would just be a case of who pops off first. If Cassius had better land luck then it could have been a different game entirely.

[@theveryaveragegamer2583]

There are definitely highs and lows here, but I really love to see Joe listening to his fans and facilitating conversation in the comments. This channel could be something really special

[@TabletopJocks]

Thank you! I do like to have conversations with people who are interested in how to make the channel better and to grow. I love hearing suggestions on how to make things better or what people want to see more. I know I will never be able to make everyone happy but as long as I keep improving the channel while keeping everyone entertained then that's good for me! Thanks for the feedback and for stopping by!

[@jasonhart543]

I really dig the background noise & "peanut gallery" guests in each episode. Even in one like this where 1 player's dominating, the crowd chatter keeps it engaging. Plenty of places to find clean video/audio with lots of extra production. I like these a lot for the more casual feel. No other channel gives that vibe.

[@toctheyounger]

Man, it really seems like rule 0 just didn't get yall that far this game. Idk, maybe it was just bad beats for most of the table but fr I'm with Cash, when its like this tbh I'm scooping.

[@WoodenSwordFighter]

Their rule 0 for this game was "bring the spice." When everyone agrees to that nobody can get too mad.

[@toctheyounger]

Well, yeah I guess. Theres no absolutes in that phrase so I guess. Idk, just wasn't at all an entertaining watch. Aside from Ellie watching and winding Joe up.

[@LouisKing995]

Cas’ deck was probably stronger than joes. Cas’ is a low cmc combo deck whereas joes revolves around ramping out a 10 cmc creature. If cas hadn’t been mana screwed he had a very good shot at winning and controlling the board. Yuriko can also be strong but I dunno how the dude built his. The mono white deck…yeah wrong table.

[@toctheyounger]

Yeah like Gabriel seems like a real good dude. Seems like the other guys were sort of just ok with him not really being in it. All of the other 3 looked at or close to cedh level.

[@TabletopJocks]

I think the main problem with rule zero for this one is that Gabriel is a fairly new player and while he brought the spice for what he had he doesn’t have the amount of decks that say Cassius and I have. I have seen his decks pop off before though so I was confident that we were all playing on the same level. Either way I appreciate the feedback from everyone and am still figuring out how to balance everything without making it seem staged. I guess that’s one of the biggest challenges with these vids. Either way, hope to bring you more enjoyable content in the future. Appreciate you stopping by!

[@lag4221]

Yoo it would be great if everyone could read their cards when they cast them. Gabriel asked about what delay did and kind of got ignored. Also he didn’t know what Kozilek did until it interacted with him. Feels bad man

[@TabletopJocks]

Maybe we just didn’t catch that. I don’t think we were intentionally withholding information as when you’re on set there’s a lot going on. All in all we were having fun and I think that’s the point of what I’m trying to convey. Maybe it might have not come across on this one but they can’t all be perfect games. Appreciate you taking the time to give constructive feedback though! This channel is young and only looking to grow and get better.

[@beffuscleetus9999]

I mean he could of picked up the card and read it like anyone should do if they don’t know exactly what the card does

[@eliasescamilla2556]

I’m going to definitely agree with the rest of the comment section. 1. Unnecessary dialogue from people not playing. 2. Serious power level issue between decks. (for this recording only) 3. Unnecessarily long video for a short amount of gameplay.

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Appreciate the honesty. This was only our second filming day, and we’re working out how to keep the gallery focused on the game at hand. It’s was NFL Championship playoffs in the background, so that definitely contributed to the noise. But I do gotta point out the decks themselves, check em out freely on Moxfield, were all really capable of going megaton. Cash couldn’t buy a land to save his life, and Joe got lucky popping off before Nicholas had a chance to unleash Yuriko. The video is also pretty close to real time, we assume y’all don’t want these manufactured or scripted out. In future vids, we’ll work to focus the group on the game at hand more. Thank you for your support and keeping the comments constructive! We’ll get better every vid.

[@eliasescamilla2556]

@@jasonballantyne3021 Of course brotha 🤙🏾 keep up the great work. We really do appreciate all the hard work it takes to make these videos.

[@shorebot]

Looking at the decklists, Yuriko and Odric had no business being in that pod. Kess is a cEDH list and Kozilek is pretty well tuned. I think Gabriel and Nicholas had a very different expectation of what 'bring the spice' meant and it kinda resulted in an imbalanced game.

[@benbarclay4239]

the yuriko looks fairly strong tbh. Maybe not competitive but it definitely had the tools to hang.

[@TabletopJocks]

Thank you for checking out the deck lists and making a fair assessment! While I do think we all brought one of our spiciest decks to the table, Gabriel hasn’t played as long as we have been. I’ve seen his decks go off and I wouldn’t have gone into that game without knowing what each of those decks had the potential to do. It would be nice for everyone else in the comments to make this same assessment as I feel like a quick study of the deck lists will let you know it definitely could’ve been anyone’s game. Either way thanks for watching. Still working on the rhythm of the show. Appreciate you taking the time to leave some feedback!

[@ninja_gamer0843]

@@TabletopJocks love your work boss, keep it coming

[@imanujakku]

The problem isn’t that anyone could have won. It’s that Cassius deck is built to interact with decks whose average CMC is 2 and are all trying to combo off. Instead of being able to help the table and make a game of it when joes deck starts to pop he has nothing to do about it and knows it. The most fun games to watch imo are when everyone is playing decks that operate on the same axis (combo/combat/hybrid etc) which doesn’t always equate to power level. The non games tend happen when 4 people have wildly different game plans.

[@HootNBerries]

Love the content, the guests, the energy and Gabriel is such a cool guy. This episode was a little hard to watch for the reasons a lot of other comments have already stated. Keep up the hard work TTJ and I’m sure it’s all going to get better and better.

[@TabletopJocks]

Appreciate that and yes he is very cool! All the people I bring to the table are my actual friends and the ultimate goal is to show us having fun doing whatever we sit down to do! Appreciate the feedback and thanks for watching!

[@Chrixs00]

Your guests are straight fire, all we need now is posty and prof!

[@TabletopJocks]

😉😉😉

[@wollom]

Another amazing video. Loving the natural conversations, banter (even from offscreen lol), ambiance, and the fact that people DO happen play OP decks, and there's nothing really wrong with that, it happens, it's apart of what makes Magic fun. Everyone gets their fair share of being able to stomp each others decks. I understand that some people don't like that, and again, that's fine, but I truly did love this episodes naturality. Amazing work Joe & Co., looking forward to all your upcoming content.

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Thank you so much for the support and the kind words! We try really hard to keep the decks even. All four of those decks could have absolutely wrecked shop. Joe got lucky on that first draw and rode that wave. We’ll keep tweaking the formula and making the show better!

[@wollom]

@@jasonballantyne3021 No worries, thank you all for the wonderful entertainment. Can't wait to see where the show is a year from now, it's going to be awesome.

[@noliverk]

I really enjoy the energy of these but am struggling with the background noise. In any case I hope you keep making these and growing the channel!

[@TabletopJocks]

Thanks for the feedback! Ultimately I think being at that setting it was the best we could do. I am bummed that not having a controlled space for audio didn’t work out so well. My vision was to be in a space that I like to play magic and hang out with my friends. I’ll figure out how to marry the two eventually. Thanks for stopping by! Hope to bring the quality everyone is looking for in the future. The channel is still young and growing rapidly so I definitely appreciate all the feedback I can get to bring the quality that everyone desires!

[@shotgunmacgaming2391]

I think having the excess people take away from the game as well. Nothing against them, but it adds a lot of extra talking and takes away from the players playing in the game.

[@TabletopJocks]

My goal is to create that tournament like feel but more laid back. I think I can make it work but you’re right I’ll need to dial back some of the excess chatter and keep everyone on theme of the game itself. It’s still a very new channel so I’m learning the rhythm and what works for the channel. Hopefully in the end everyone is having a good time because that is the main goal. A swing and a miss but plenty of more chances at bat. I’ll figure it out eventually! Thanks for tuning in!

[@shotgunmacgaming2391]

@@TabletopJocks still good games and great guests. Keep up the hard work!

[@Beisser76]

Cassius really out here just bringing a straight up CEDH deck to a casual table. Kind of funny to see that against a mono white Odric deck. They are playing different games lmao

[@thricewise1254]

Whatever happened between IHYD and Joe has been a blessing in disguise for the fans of EDH, beacuse now we get two great channels to watch. Keep it up!

[@tyleryoakum8350]

My brother is an IHYD patreon and said that joe was kicking people out of their discord if they didnt agree or something. Idk all of it but something like that. I agree though. Its a blessing

[@REMfakeplastictrees]

@@tyleryoakum8350 yeah Joe was doing some weird stuff but hopefully he uses his second chance well. You can’t deny he’s good at what he does and is magnetic for entertainment. Everyone deserves a second chance given the circumstances.

[@tyleryoakum8350]

@@REMfakeplastictrees Honestly though, thank god it happened cause now I got another channel now for content. Everyone thats been on TTJ besides 2 or 3 guests havent been on IHYD. So more people means more/new decks!

[@TabletopJocks]

Your brother was misinformed. Anyone who I kicked was already submitted for banning via approval of a vote by myself and the moderators. Of course you blame the person who actually has to carry out the deed. The moderators did not have that authorization. Please don’t follow a one sided narrative. I’m honestly so over it. There are two sides to every story so make sure you ask all parties their side before assuming. I’m proud of the work I did at the previous channel and love the fact that I get to be a lot more diverse on this venture. I wasn’t going to ever be able to do all the things I have fun doing unless I left. Thank you for watching and commenting. Hope you will continue to have fun and enjoy the entertainment!

[@tyleryoakum8350]

@@TabletopJocks its the only narrative I heard and so its all I could go with. Im honestly happy you got to do youre own thing. Gives us more content overall and your guests are great. And as a fan, I enjoy your show's vibe and content! Keep it coming!

[@jonathanmartin8113]

Thanks to Gabriel rocking out my main commander!! Funny story : I built the deck (my first commander deck) and all my friends were laughing at me because I chose a "white wheenie deck"... after I pummeled them a couple of times, they eventually stopped laughing 🤣 An Odric, Lunarch Marshal deck is highly resilient and high damage output (especially creatures) with all the abilities you can tack on... very cool synergy! 😀

[@docauch5938]

Oh shit you got Ghost Rider?? Damnnnn let’s go!

[@TabletopJocks]

Gabriel is the homie! Catch him on Last of Us very soon!!!

[@grahamfuller5638]

Love all the players here, but ower gap is disappointing on this one. The Odric deck especially was clearly not for this table's power level and you rolled with it anyways when that should have been addressed in rule zero.

[@TabletopJocks]

We did have a discussion in rule zero. Gabriel is a fairly new player and doesn’t have the wide range of decks available like we did so it might seem imbalanced in this episode but I’ve seen his decks pop off. Unfortunately games can’t always be perfectly balanced. Still finding a rhythm for these. Thanks for the feedback!

[@edwardfaasen1511]

I get Cash got screwed, but these other 2 decks were not the same power level. Pub stomping isn't really enjoyable content.

[@TabletopJocks]

Interestingly enough because I responded to someone threatening me with violence you only look at the response. There are proper gyms to spar at and I suggested to the person making the comment that if he wanted a proper chance to spar with me then I wouldn’t back down. I’m so sick of this. Open your eyes to something than your own egos. I guess that’s this community for you in a nutshell. A LOT of followers and not enough leaders. I’ll continue on my path. Good day.

[@edwardfaasen1511]

@@TabletopJocks I have a feeling all that must have been a response to something else. But take the constructive feedback and ignore the rest.

[@TabletopJocks]

Indeed. There are a LOT of trolls on the internet and in this community in general. I wasn’t responding to your comment but the person underneath. While I definitely don’t mind constructive feedback or criticism I’ll say I’ve had the experience of playing against those decks before and when they get going then it’s very hard to stop. All the decks were made with a purpose and sometimes those decks do exactly what they were made to do. I don’t really consider games like these a “pub stomp”. A deck did its thing and did it well. It’s not like no one had a chance. If you take a look at the deck lists we were on equal ground starting off. If you haven’t had a chance to see them they are linked in the bio. Ultimately everyone is entitled to their own opinions and if you did not enjoy this one or it wasn’t your cup of tea I can respect that. Hope you come back for more games in the future and I do appreciate you taking the time out of your day to voice your opinion.

[@danielspahn2593]

Cash did say he was there to play some gross stuff and the channel is known for choose violence, so 🤷

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

Maybe other guy was confused because yoko could be CEDH

[@CorZ1lla]

The man, the myth, the legend, Cassius, all risessss.

[@TabletopJocks]

Foil King!!!

[@barryrott726]

I’ll be honest I really appreciate the extra company at the table. I agree the restaurant noise is slightly distracting. But it adds a different flavor then the other commander channels and it seems a little more realistic. Overall I really appreciate it

[@Bmajor445]

I've enjoyed these videos so far, but truthfully I had mixed feelings on this one. Its high production value and all, but like... I wasn't even playing in this game and I felt a little bit of salt, kudos to the players for not scooping, because I would've scooped and been done right there 😂

[@ItsColde]

Bro I see your Cricket Wireless commercial like 12 times a night on peacock rn

[@gadd99]

the power level gap between these decks is kinda unfun, to be honest

[@manniebradley3768]

Go watch something else that is an option fair and balanced and fun are not mutually exclusive

[@cafekkosean1875]

@@manniebradley3768 starting to see the toxicity from this community people were talking about. Sucks to see that you cant voice your opinion and support someone you enjoy watching without people being tools.

[@GeeHood666]

@@manniebradley3768 trash 🗑

[@8nykspree]

Love Gabriel, but it should be evident his level of "spice" is in a completely different galaxy than a Cassius Kess and a Joe Kozilek deck lol. Good vibes all around though.

[@TabletopJocks]

I’ve seen his decks pop OFF can’t sleep on them! 🥳🥳🥳 thanks for the watch!

[@williamisbister9668]

Absolutely savage beat down. Literally had a game like this with my prosper last night. It turned 3v1 very fast but it didn't matter. Sometimes you just got em coach !!

[@moxavenger]

The kind of deck you play if you don't want any friends.

[@mibbzx1493]

Ah a fellow prosper user 👌🏾

[@VictorTamietti]

So... I dunno about that kind of power gap. Shouldn't rule zero try to avoid that? I wouldn't have any fun on that.

[@TabletopJocks]

I agree with that. Rule zero fixes a lot of problems with different levels and making sure people bring the right decks. Unfortunately Gabriel is just starting out and doesn’t have as many decks that say Cassius and I have so while we all agreed to bring the spice it might have seemed unbalanced. Either way we had fun but thanks for taking the time to leave some feedback. I’ll keep working on these things to make things more enjoyable in the future for everyone!

[@Robvides]

@@TabletopJocks you all agreed to bring the spice, knowing full well Gabriel did not have spice, and he wasn't in a position to understand what you meant. game felt very lack luster. It was the Billy Madison scene where he beats the toddlers at dodgeball.

[@TabletopJocks]

Did you look at the deck list? It’s in the bio of you haven’t. That is in fact a false statement you have made. I knew the potential of his deck because I’ve played against it before and it went OFF. I wouldn’t have had him play it if I knew it wasn’t up to snuff. You can’t be mad because decks do what they are made to do. It may have not been the most entertaining game to you but that’s your opinion. It’s like you can’t even win in a game of magic anymore without your deck being “too powerful”. The main point is having a great time but if you have the cards then you build the deck. The MTG community will continue to be the most confusing group of individuals I’ve ever interacted with. Either way, thanks for watching. Appreciate any and all constructive feedback.

[@Robvides]

@@TabletopJocks you keep counter arguing that the main point is having a good time, but while watching this video Gabriel is the only one trying to laugh through it, where as Nicholas and Cassius are very visibly not enjoying themselves. at one point Cash even openly stated that if this were anything other than a filmed game, he'd have already walked away. The people commenting here are the people paying for you to do what you do. when the feedback says this was a bad episode, and overwhelmingly so. stop trying to defend it. acknowledge the miss and try to do better, otherwise all it does is discourage people from supporting the channel.

[@TabletopJocks]

I did thank you for your feedback! As I did in every comment from everyone giving me feedback. No one is denying anything. I’m genuinely confused about your angle now. You made it seem like it was all about the power levels of the deck so I kept to that subject. This is a completely different subject now so I’ll weigh in. On one hand you can take in what you see but those are theatrics in game on camera. No one is defending the episode. On multiple responses I’ve stated that it could’ve been more entertaining and I was asking people about specific audio questions. Ultimately if you personally don’t like the episode that’s your opinion and no one is taking that away from you. There are also plenty of other people commenting that had a fun time watching. Again, thanks for the feedback and taking time out of your day to comment! Appreciate it all and hope you’re having a good time with the other episodes.

[@haroun1760]

Good rule 0 conversation guys 😅. Funny that the mono white deck was the only other deck that did work 💪

[@tldrq2456]

27:53 ayo, Bred 1 gang

[@ZonkRulz666]

Love it! Love seeing decks pop off! Note that the yellow background on the life counter makes it difficult to read.

[@TabletopJocks]

Thanks for the feedback! Trying to figure a way to make that life counter work. Maybe I need to get a bigger device like an iPad or something. I’ll figure it out, still working out the details 🙂

[@Iheartvengeance]

wish we could have seen another game after this quick one

[@luckyknowsbest7866]

This was actually one of my favorite episode. Love seeing Cash and Gabe and the banter was top notch XD

[@TabletopJocks]

Awesome! Thanks for the feedback! Glad you had fun!!! 🥳

[@Luastardust]

Oh hell yeah!! Glad to see Cassius’s on here 🙌🙌🙌

[@TheUnderJaker]

What happened to Lynch? why did you leave?

[@TabletopJocks]

All I’ll say is that bands break up sometimes and I’m much happier and in a better place here.

[@TheUnderJaker]

@@TabletopJocks that’s good enough for me. Keep up the good work. And give your guests a break man. No need to beat them down that bad.

[@steve-xo6vi]

Love catching a new TableTop Jocks every Saturday morning. No problem with the lopsidedness in this game. I have had games where decks that are way lower power level than anyone was playing here just pop off and go berserk, it happens. Cash recognized the game was over early and it would have been pretty cool to just see the group acknowledge the win and scoop em up and reshuffle for game 2!

[@TabletopJocks]

Thanks for watching and I appreciate the feedback! Yep, games like this happen! Probably should’ve scooped it early and got a second game in but we live and we learn! Thanks for enjoying the content!!!

[@denimdan7040]

that eldrazi deck was awesome to see pop off.

[@LastallianceX]

Finally a colorless deck !!!

[@beg2die]

So it looked like to me that there was 2 relatively cedh decks and then a casually competitive deck being kozilek and then odric but it seems he was a newer player. But yeah cash would've been the best to win the game early but i guess fortunately enough he did get mana screwed so he didn't just win T2-T3 and wrap the games up. Yuriko unfortunately takes a bit to win being yuriko flipping blinkmoth infusion or the other various big spells or wins with thassas.

[@commanderpower99]

Holy s**t is the guy from that Terminator movie!!

[@TabletopJocks]

That’s Gabriel Luna all right! 🥳 Catch him on The Last of Us as well!

[@commanderpower99]

@@TabletopJocks heck yeah!!!!

[@BlurryPhace]

“I don’t know who I am anymore.” Lmaooo

[@KalebQi]

I’m very surprised you guys actually played that out. Was that just because you were filming? Once there’s no way back and everyone agrees that the game is over our play group ends the game so we can move into the next game so everyone can start having fun again

[@queenofpayne2016]

Ok, but that sol ring art... and the flavor text... perfect! -Poesis

[@erikstenberg7673]

Yall really just held Cash's head under the water til the bubbles stopped. Jesus.

[@christiangrosen1979]

Isn’t including new people to your playgroup and having fun with your friend, the whole purpose of the game? Yea this game went one way, but thats how commander games work. That just leaves time for another game. Yet another great episode, I think that one of the strongest addition to the edh channels is the little audience when the pod plays. Gives great LGS vibes. Its a little hard to see the lifetotal on the phone because of the lighting. But TTJ’s is definitly a Force to be reckoned with 🤘🏻💥 considering all the options of IHYD, Command zone, edhHijinks etc.

[@TabletopJocks]

Thank you for the genuine feedback! This person gets it! Yes I am all about bringing all the homies together to play games in general. Whether it be board games, video games, d&d, magic, etc. it’s all about getting together and sharing an experience with one another. This is a thing that happens in games sometimes. Decks are designed to do a thing and they get to actually do the thing! It’s all good too! Working on figuring out the issue with the life total. I think maybe having a bigger apparatus will help, like an iPad or something. Thank you again for the feedback and the love! Appreciate you taking the time to comment and voicing your opinion!

[@liberkhaos5978]

Ooof. That game was a massacre. Really funny video though.

[@TabletopJocks]

Haha glad you had fun though!!! Thanks for watching! 🥳

[@baspetter6851]

That deck was spicy! Love the games so far. But the background noise and the loud entourage is way too distracting for me as a viewer. And I would love to see more of the cards that are played. That’s one of the things I love at Game Kings: showing and explaining the cards more.

[@drekarus8113]

Hey I’m a huge fan of commander and this show. I would love to be a part and show off some cool synergy!

[@TabletopJocks]

On Patreon there’s a goal and as soon as we hit that we will have a random member be picked to come on the show! Thank you for the love though! We also play spelltable games all the time in the discord if you have a webcam!

[@penguwave4025]

Kozi is my favourite deck. I just do fun stuff and willfully accept that people will hate me off the board. Then I shuffle up and switch to Slivers, Infect, Stax or Worldgorger Madness.

[@James-rf4mp]

Look, all the decks ran fast mana. Was it a great game, no. It's a real mtg vibe, and this happens. Anyone watching this channel can remember a time they have done this and have had it done to them. CEDH is some taboo, but in reality, it can be tough for certain cedh decks to run at a normalish pod because they are so tuned to fighting other cedh decks. Keep up the great content! Ignore the hate my dude!

[@lukepietz7145]

One aspect of rule 0 which is extremely difficult, even for experienced players, is recognizing when there is a bad mix of decks, even lower level decks can destroy a more competitive deck if the matchup is bad. For example: a graveyard deck versus a commander that replaces death with exile. Likewise, even imbalanced power can work if the decks all have similar goals. They attempted a Rule 0 and it failed in some way, but that’s going to happen sometimes. Hopefully they learn a bit how to better relate what the goals and interactions of the decks are in the future. Also, if your deck requires your commander on board to work, it’s ok to ask that it not be immediately destroyed/countered.

[@tinyguy8326]

Even if decks are pretty fairly matched, when people are playing strong decks, sometimes decks just pop and leave the rest of the table in the dust. And those games look really lopsided even though everyone there had a reasonable shot of winning when the game started. As always, I love the vibes on this show. And I was stoked to see Cash! Thanks for the great channel! And as always, we are here for Blerds doing big things!

[@TabletopJocks]

This. Right. Here. Games like this happen ALL the time! This is a part of Magic. It’s almost as if you can’t win a game of magic anymore or your deck is “OP”. Like what is that? I make sure to link all the decks in the bio to show people we are all on the same page. Thank you for tuning in!

[@manniebradley3768]

@@TabletopJocks honestly the main edh channels out there have this (whether genuine or not ain't my place) very doctored format tto there videos there is almost an unwritten rule to not play with power to make it seem like magic is always fair and balanced. this has not been my mtg experience sometimes ypu get screwed on mana sometimes you draw the thanos snap I think (this is not a shot) the introductory styles of some channels creates a level of falsehood to the game play. if Tabletop Jocks is anything it authentic unadulterated unfiltered fun the background is lively yeah focus on the game but also people are drinking and socializing some of fave moments are even in the game but the interactions between yall as humans keep up the good work fuck the noise

[@TabletopJocks]

Appreciate that and thank you for tuning in! There is a lot of noise but there’s plenty of constructive feedback out there too. I’m filtering through it and seeing what I can use to improve the channel and make better quality. I know I’ll never get it 100% right because that’s impossible but 99.9% is worth shooting for. I personally will never be truly satisfied with anything I put out but that’s what making art is all about. Knowing the more you do it, the better you’ll become. I strive to get better every time I’m at bat and that’s the beauty of it because I’ll always be chasing that goal. Thank you for stopping by and the encouragement!

[@richardsharber1876]

I think it was a fair game. They al had capabilities to have stopped or prevented things the entire game. You have to take out the eldrazi before they go off. That was a table mistake. Great match though!

[@egoish6762]

6 mins in and i'm expected cash on cedh kess to smash this pod. Edit: though having just seen joe drop more fast mana i've seen this before...

[@wrayfinlay8104]

I like how Joe who hates blue played a commander who is the emphasis of Blue. Shame Joe shame. 🤣🤣

[@TabletopJocks]

I did the bad thing didn’t I? 🤣🤣🤣

[@Hijunk71]

To borrow a line of my favorite movie dune "the spice must flow"

[@TabletopJocks]

🥳🥳🥳

[@EngeltheFallen]

Another great episode Joe. Now we are a couple of months, def making this your channel was the right call. This is what you do best, fun chaotic games. Love Cash so much. Nothing like his insanely high powered degenerate decks.

[@TabletopJocks]

I'm glad you're here! I'm having a lot of fun with this channel thank you for the support! :)

[@Jarrik73]

Another game of Kozilek, Great Distortion of Fun, which ran about how I've seen it played elsewhere. Other than that, the game was fun to watch. 👍

[@deltagodangel]

Damn, he's gonna be a great Tommy holy shit

[@matteobagni1235]

Don't skip rule 0, I am sure you played several games but it's quite important.

[@raveneff]

Was hoping for a new ep. Love the content

[@shansation3972]

Quite a lopsided game (hey, it happens even with evenly tuned decks) but I'm liking the content. Having the extra guests by the side was definitely entertaining and made what might have been a bland commander game really fun to watch and listen to. Just that having them all speak at the same time can be a little confusing at them. Keep the videos coming.

[@johnfonner883]

Great gameplay, awesome video will be looking forward to the next one

[@dirtydanissad6305]

Im super late to this video but time twister was exiled 😢 love a joe win tho

[@brentthomas162]

How does Cassius always have Timetwister in his opening hand?

[@Hemlocker]

I don't think the audio is all that bad tbh, everyone can be heard pretty clearly and adds to the atmosphere

[@scottelliott6769]

This was a fun watch. It sucks sometimes when a game goes pear-shaped that quickly with Joe locking it down like that, but that's just how the draws went. Cassius was mana-screwed, and Eugene was just too good when it hit. I don't think it's necessarily a power level issue (but then again I'm very casual with EDH so what do I know). I will echo what some others have mentioned, that the ambient sounds from the set can be a bit distracting at times. While I loved the Witches adding in to the conversation, the bar noises on top sometimes caused me to lose the conversation. Maybe it would work better on a closed set, but then you lose the whole "gaming pub" experience. Still, lots of fun. I really enjoy watching content with Joe in it!

[@jasonballantyne3021]

Thank you for the positive feedback. Yea, we’ve all been on the receiving end of a deck going megaton before everyone. The ambient noise was a lot, we shot on the weekend of the NFL Championship round playoffs. But we really appreciate the constructive comments. We’re just 3 shoots into building this channel and community, the love and help is accepted gratefully!

[@tink417]

I've never watched a game where Cassius wasn't peeping an opponents hand.

[@didupaytheone2678]

Joe u the real monster here bro...wow first time scoop on video? U could of let him have one ...I hate your deck and love it

[@dumbledoresarmy7569]

So what’s the secret to keeping your foils from pringling? Those foils all look pretty flat from this angle.

[@TabletopJocks]

Honestly I just put a book on top of them lol

[@benjaminkaye5119]

Yes , the return of Cassius !!!!

[@87Jake77]

"I wont do the thing, that got the thing, banned"

[@BjornStellar]

Time twister should have been exiled.

[@Robvides]

it was by the time it mattered. but yea, that looked weird to me too.

[@emrick8928]

Been seeing a lot of comments about the game being unbalanced. Just wanted to say this could of gone any way, draw power and luck does come into play. Nicholas could of done major damage to everyone with Yuriko triggers. Gabriel could have had a lot of removal being mono white. And we all know Cassius always has spice. Just bad luck/draws, it can be boring to watch when one person takes over but this was a true LGS experience. It would of been great to have a two game episode, but having this many stars together under one roof I imagine scheduling can be an issue. Great video and great work.

[@TabletopJocks]

Appreciate your feedback and yes you are right! It could’ve gone any way and that’s what this game is all about! I probably should’ve seen the writing on the wall and asked everyone if they just wanted to scoop it up and get another game in real quick. You live and you learn. This channel is still young and not even 3 months old yet. Plenty of room to grow! Thanks again for stopping by!

[@jonathanmartin8113]

I have an Odric deck and it's always a good deck, but you can run out of gas real quick if you don't have draw cards mechanics. But white target removals are definitely powerful, but Gabriel just ran out of cards to play.

[@willklemyk6214]

Good game 👍…… way to gett’r done joe. I was wondering if you have a belbe corrupted observer deck or have thought about building one in the future. GOLGARI GANG son. Would be a fun politics/ cedh build.

[@willklemyk6214]

You could throw those gross Eldrazi right in with belbe.

[@Panthersman52]

Kozilek doing kozilek things. Hell yeah

[@ianocoin1899]

I hear ‘take a look at the deck lists’ throughout the comments as though that should cover the obviously failed rule 0 convo (was that recorded?) Just because you put someone behind the wheel of a race car doesn’t mean they’ll be able to maintain pace with the rest of the field. There was always an unfair advantage in this game and it’s hard to watch frankly. With this group at the table, the rule 0 convo should have ended with power level 6-7 decks all around, whether that’s spicy enough for everyone at the table or not. I want to continue to support this channel.

[@Mad.Edd.702]

I fuck with cash love the games he been in here and the 4 other magic channels I follow

[@lazyjawa]

Nice! Was waiting for a new vid!

[@willyrivas4014]

Hey Joe have Doug in the show I love seeing his decks in action they’re always spicy

[@alanschellenberger9356]

This is the 2nd game where Nicholas' Yuriko does pretty much nothing each turn. Is that just the flaw of Yuriko? Or is it because he isn't getting 1/1 unblockable creatures and also cheap counters like spell pierce to slow down his opponents?

[@zaghilol]

man, that was kinda fun to watch but painful. experienced it would have been just painful.

[@Gruggy_Prime]

6 other people there watching the game and no one noticed that timetwister get put into the graveyard and not into exile? then it gets played from the graveyard. haven't finished watching yet but that makes me sad.

[@Paul_Johnston]

He was playing blue the entire time but called it "colorless" hahahahaha!

[@p1mack]

Dockside foil.. Gavin- It's on my list. Selling my 3 next week! HAHA Great show guys! Really Enjoy these.

[@nik700]

10:33 Let's worry about the reprint first, style second

[@didupaytheone2678]

Love this game everyone get joe ? First half is gone ..who's going to win

[@simonwalker602]

Oooof this game was tough to watch.

[@wolfgangkiess8263]

How did time Timetwister get cast from exile? Am I missing something here?…

[@paulis9096]

Power Level were a bit off imo

[@alext.1244]

"a bit" LOOOL

[@cloudycalcifer7799]

37:45 why did joe get to draw 10 and play them all ?

[@rmreagle]

What if commander ninjitsu just cost 1 more each time. Still strong but at least there is a rising cost to keep using it...

[@OmegaMTG]

24:40 I feel bad for Cash, I play magic at least once per week with the owner of my lgs.

[@AmtGardVideos]

I don’t even think I need to ask but does Cas have a actual time twister? Worth more then my whole mtg collection combined

[@TabletopJocks]

He has many!

[@AmtGardVideos]

@@TabletopJocks gawd damn. The envy! I like the episodes man keep the positivity and good energy coming. Keep up the great work!

[@emcarlou]

The audacity! Lol

[@GetTooasted]

good video

[@GSIron]

This show is about the vibe, not the game. I think the layout of the show is unique, keep doing what ya’ll doing. Ignore the negative comments

[@TabletopJocks]

I don’t think for the most part the comments have been negative. I think there’s always going to be people trolling for attention no matter where you go because that’s the internet. Most of the comments are constructive feedback which I don’t mind at all. It helps me grow and become a better content creator. I’m glad you’re enjoying the vibe of the show. My intent is to create an atmosphere where it’s just me and my friends having a great time. Thanks for the encouragement and stopping by!

[@GSIron]

@@TabletopJocks you’re right

[@zadkiel4]

Which app do you use as lifecounter?

[@TabletopJocks]

The companion App by WOTC

[@MrSeffbasilisk]

21:00 ‐ 23:00. Looks like Joe takes a second turn in one rotation taking Cash's takeback as him taking his turn. Ugin and Kozilek come out using the same mana. Am I buggin'?

[@AndrewWoodford]

He had Vedalken Orrery and cast the Ugin at instant speed on Cash’s turn. Kozilek was cast on Joe’s turn.

[@jcmadcat82]

oof that was a rough game

[@alext.1244]

"out of respect for the table I will sit here and take my abuse"... *literally 3 secs later* "your guys' decks suck... can y'all scoop with me?" LOOOL