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@JackStolz 4 ай бұрын

My guitarist and I toured for a full decade on a dual rec, and a 6505+ respectively. Now we’re old and both run into one helix rack. I’m not missing the heads as much as I thought! The helix is so good.

@johanjotun1647 4 ай бұрын

Where can I see reviews that arn't a guy alone in a room? I have no problem with the tone of my stereo10w amp for alone in a room type playing, but I need to fig out whats required to have a power trio, A 2x12 palamino we picked up cheap disapears when blastbeats are rollin, I'm frustrated with these guys playing alone in a room no YT, that I think since I'm not a musician and never moving i should get a 100w head and 4x12 cause the kids I knew with bands all had those and at least I know that works. I'd like to think i made a smart move but NONE of the reviews i see have any kind of practical demo with the mic 10ft away and bass and drummer chugging.

@JackStolz 4 ай бұрын

@@johanjotun1647 ah man yeah I understand. I guess as a dude who has had both I can say the power amp you use can be a bigger challenge than the preamp. I like the helix but you can use so many great preamps and modelers. The Duncan powerstage is just loud enough, the blackstar amped one is loud enough, the orange pedal baby is SUPER loud. If you want the 100 watt 412 thing, there really isn’t anything exactly like it though. Just remember speakers are king.

@gabrielstevens41 4 ай бұрын

@johanjotun1647 Jeff Loomis used a Helix rack into a duncan powerstage for a time with Archenemy. I have a Helix Lt and run it into a power amp from This Heavy Earth into a 2x12 and have no problem being heard with my band.

@becominghuman3561 4 ай бұрын

I profiled my single rectifier with my TONEX and I run that into the Helix FX loop. I played a gig last night and the other guitarists swarmed the stage after we played trying to figure out what I was using because we sounded huge. Amazing how far technology has come.

@SunshineHB 4 ай бұрын

@@johanjotun1647KSR PA 50

@ConstantineM Ай бұрын

I don't like 5150 (PV Panama in Helix/HX) too, would be interesting if you try the PV Vitriol (based on Peavey Invective 120). It's waaay better.

@aquaxbat Ай бұрын

With solid state, it’s often better to use the full amp mode (minus the speaker obviously) instead of just the preamp. Did you only use preamp with the Quilter?

@scottylund5890 4 ай бұрын

What's the first LTD guitar you were playing ?

@t_separator 4 ай бұрын

Esp ltd bk-600

@jayjaymerritt2785 4 ай бұрын

Interesting Kyle's take on the 5150 and Soldano. As far as rich harmonic content goes, my Soldano preset NAILS it. Pinch harmonics have a depth/timbre and clarity just like on the real head. Bear in mind I'm running through my FRFR setup, and had to audition a handful of impulse responses to achieve success. As far as the 5150, idk man it could be a bit off but it's easily fixed with eq/ pre post. I have a kickass heartwork/Carcass preset that will crush your genitals. Great video as always Kyle, again, your ear & dial in was on point sir!

@randalljones4370 4 ай бұрын

When you punch a Line 6 amp model and it does exactly the right thing : Quietly, under your breath, say "Thank you, Ben". Ben is a good guy, and has marvelous taste in pickles.

@blakeoms 4 ай бұрын

I love my Orange super crush 100 and line 6 pod go into the return FX loop with two 4x12s and honestly, it's gotten some arguments from people saying it's better or worse. It's awesome and haven't had ANY issues with my setup. ever.

@JamesFlorio-ti8gc 18 күн бұрын

I just bet that sounds huge awesome 👍🏻 idea 😮

@andrewbecker3700 4 ай бұрын

"Rectal Fryer" is the best name ever for a sim. Maybe if you hit it with a "Gristle Ring" pedal, it'll be the epitome of "your shit sounds like ass". Ola style.

@davidjoel111 4 ай бұрын

This is one of the best investment a guitarist can make, it can be a standalone rig, it can be an fx pedal for your amp, all the effects sound great and the amp modeling sounds great, I use mine along with my tone x. Hx stomp for all effects and tone x for the amps. Sometimes I’ll do a dual amp rig with the amps in the stomp plus the tone x on the fx loop of the hx stomp.

@Mstopmaster 2 ай бұрын

I have been thinking about adding the tone x to my hx stomp 🤔 Do you think having that rig would be better then having a kemper stage?

@davidjoel111 2 ай бұрын

@@Mstopmaster well if you already have the HX stomp it would only cost you $180 to add a Tone X One. The kemper would cost you $700 minimum if you go with the profile player.

@brianhuynh1985 4 ай бұрын

My HX Stomp XL was probably my favorite music gear purchase of the last decade. I have plenty of tube amps, analog pedals, cabinets, and all that but the convenience of the HX Stomp is what really draws me to it. I can just plug and play (even with headphones) and have tons of effects and tones right at my finger tips. It’s really helped open up my creativity. One of my favorite things to do is to try to tone match some of my favorite pedals/amps/tones in the HX. Really helps train my ear.

@barrygomez5968 Ай бұрын

How is the Helix playing through headphones 🎧?

@andycornman783 Ай бұрын

@@barrygomez5968 Amazing! I record with my HX Stomp XL and use them for practice with Audio-Technica ATH-M50x headphones. I use the Engl fireball/Mesa 4X12XL preset with a Dynamic Ambiance, its sounds HUGE! So much that when I use my 51503 tube amp at band practice i long for the helix.

@corycourtney8923 4 ай бұрын

I would not recommend running cabinet models in your chain when running into a power amp of any kind into real guitar speakers. The cabinet models are best when routing a signal for front of house. That way, you don't need to run a mic'd cab on stage. Front of house gets a nice consistent signal and your stage sound isn't nerfed by modeling the sound of a mic'd cab into a cab.

@paulschlachter4313 4 ай бұрын

Umhh... you used the 2204 preamp model, but told us it was the 2203 amp model.

@jakestewartmusic 4 ай бұрын

He also said the Kinky Boost is based on the BB Preamp, but it's actually the EP Preamp

@ManuelSanchez-kr7xw 4 ай бұрын

Since I discovered your channel I don’t miss a video… Just wanted to say hello from the other side of the Atlantic Ocean

@VPB1218 4 ай бұрын

I’ve used a Helix LT as my only guitar amp/pedalbord for years now running through monitors. I still remember sitting down at GC and playing the 5150 patch someone had already made and I made up my mind having owned a 5150. I’m still evolving and trying new things.

@JA-ng7yo 4 ай бұрын

I'm starting to think the amp heads will be the at home practice amp while the digital pedals will be the gig rigs.

@erikrummel6277 4 ай бұрын

At home enjoyment and recording.

@lemac3200 4 ай бұрын

Isn't it already like this? Digital is lightweight, smaller, easier to handle in a live setting, inexpensive, and sonically identical in a livemix. For me, there is almost no reason to drag a tube amp onstage except for a big ego.

@Eric-dd8bk 4 ай бұрын

Already

@GreenSkyDill Ай бұрын

Tell that to Dan and Mick!

@TheGooseChaseMusic 4 ай бұрын

The Mark IV on the Helix/HX Stomp is one of the best out there, sounds godly through your setup!

@asianaxeman 4 ай бұрын

lacks balls compared to the real thing

@Eric-dd8bk 4 ай бұрын

@@asianaxeman And the Stomp isn't meant to sound anything like the real thing lol

@sb6232 4 ай бұрын

@@asianaxeman I have a Boogie MKIV , a Kemper Powerhead, and HX Stomp. The only profile I use on my Kemper is the one I made of my MKIV, the HX Stomp's MKIV is "ok"...until you throw som 3rd party IR's (Ownhammer) for instance, TOTALLY changes it, in the mix, it's pretty darn close..SERIOUSLY..it took a bit of tweeking on a preset I purchased, added my favorite Ownhammer IR (412 recto V30 OS) and it has the same midrangy bounce (..I go for Sevendust-Dark New Day Clint Lowery kind of sound..) Again, this is in the mix, or through monitors..When it comes to "moving air" at a live band volume, through a powered pedal, or even going through the fx return of a tube amp, it sounds really good, but not the same "feel or bounce", but great tone nonetheless. Travelling? can't beat the Stomp for all in one. Is it the end all replacement for the tube amp? Depends on your needs...There is NOTHING like running thru the MKIV at band volume..the chewey hairy goodness (..like starting up a Harley in your living room..), the Kemper and these modelers are a great alternative when you can't go balls out with "The Rig,"

@asianaxeman 4 ай бұрын

@@sb6232 chewy hairy goodness is a great description

@Rustinpeace117 4 ай бұрын

The 5150 model on the helix is the most disappointing to me. LOVE the Friedman though.

@watkinscharles829 4 ай бұрын

The 5150 on the Headrush MX5 also is very disappointing. It sounds like a blanket or something is draped over it,even when using IRs.

@zebric 4 ай бұрын

They modeled the invective head though which is dope.

@gabrielstevens41 4 ай бұрын

Over on the sonic drive studio channel he A/Bs the helix and a 6505 and they're pretty much indistinguishable. The Panama is also Jeff Loomis' favorite amp in the Helix so it might be worth revisiting

@Rustinpeace117 4 ай бұрын

@@gabrielstevens41 I've owned a block letter and 50w 5153 in the past and the helix model just doesnt do it for me 🤷

@Rustinpeace117 4 ай бұрын

@@zebric They've yet to add that to the pod go

@picksalot1 3 ай бұрын

I really appreciate your comments on how accurately the Parameters on the HX Stomp emulates the actual gear. I've had mine for about 3.5 years, and the Firmware Updates have made it best gear I've ever purchased. By the way, the Output Node at the end of the Signal Chain is a very handy place to boost the signal for leads. Thanks

@SpartanLaserCanon 4 ай бұрын

There are so many options out there now for amp/multi effects units, but It's amazing to see how much better the new Line 6 stuff is now compared to the old and not close to real sounding oldest Pod stuff.

@Bebeue 4 ай бұрын

Damn bro, this SLO IS EVIL ❤ gotta replay and check settings

@darklight4815 4 ай бұрын

We all listen to way more badass guitar tones by our own admission,that are also not tube ,than we care to admit sometimes.....my super crush is one of them, actually my favorite amp at the moment

@svenzia 4 ай бұрын

For sure. Orange nailed it!

@zebric 4 ай бұрын

Converge and Kurt play helix live so it must be good.

@tatelmarcelino4846 4 ай бұрын

I use it with the full amp head (i.e. with the power amp) models into a Powerstage 170 - so damn good!

@zachalou3073 16 күн бұрын

Been using the helix for a while, but some of the settings I saw you use made quite a difference for me. Thanks!

@Bognerman14 4 ай бұрын

I stopped using L6 when n they started going overseas to China. I had a Vetta II years ago hen they were made in California. No thanks now. Id rather have a US made product and prefer the feel and vibe of a real amp.

@BartonBaird-l2m 11 күн бұрын

Hall Kimberly White Anthony Perez Ruth

@jisei-alexis 4 ай бұрын

Heads up just thought I’d chime in as a quilter owner. Putting a dummy plug in the fxsend when running straight into the return greatly increases the overall output volume. Kurt from converge mentions it in his rig rundown video. Some weird idosyncosy about the circuit. So I highly recommend trying that out.

@bee663 4 ай бұрын

For years I felt digital Amp Sims did not have the low end that two have when you palm you on a tube Amp it moves the speakers and pushes a lot of air. Amp sims with IR’s Just couldn’t do it. I still have yet to try running a power amp with one of these units but at the same time I feel that the newer updates they’ve been doing for the last year on line 6 and fractal audio products have now come very close to mimicking that low end that they were missing for so many years.

@Eric-dd8bk 4 ай бұрын

And that low end is what you don't need in a guitar tone in the mix. That's just a selfish wish guitarists of the 80s metal freeks have. Which also includes me but I've grown out of it after learning some sound engineer things. + modelers aren't modeling amps alone, but rather modeling miked up amps, which never sound the same as an amp alone. So they are doing what they are supposed to do and you are asking for what they aren't meant to do and calling them good or bad.

@Jetisertes 4 ай бұрын

My man, you've demo'd the Stomp with 3 year old firmware.

@rafito1280 4 ай бұрын

Check the GT1000 core. I more closer to the real thing than Helix.

@eddiejr540 4 ай бұрын

I’ve had one for about 2yrs now and I probably only use about 3% of it’s capabilities…but I’m an idiot 🫤

@sasanghafarian2719 24 күн бұрын

Bb preamp sounds like metal zone 😮

@ChristopherOrz 4 ай бұрын

As long as the amp sims go into power amp and real cab - it sounds really, really close to real amp and the air is moving :D

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

agreed!

@Samg77 4 ай бұрын

How do you connect the Stomp up to the power section of the EVH? I have an EVH Stealth and was thinking about getting the Stomp but would like to use my real cabs still.

@SaintDiablo 2 ай бұрын

Run it into the return section of the FX loop (instead of the front of the amp) you will only be using the power section of the amp.

@andycornman783 Ай бұрын

4 Cable method. You can then replace your 5150 preamp with one in the helix if need be. its pretty sick.

@xsonicassassinx 4 ай бұрын

the valve driver is a butler tube drive emulation. either way, it sounded good. i've been using the stomp since it's introduction. stomp > isp power amp > cab. as well as my bass rig, stomp > FOH. never ceases to amaze me. my approach was the same as it was on the POD HD. gate, 808, parallel compression, engl fireball, gate, EQ. completely unstoppable, and the very few patch changes i did were super easy while singing because i had 3 whole buttons in front of me. no one seemed to like the 5150 model. not sure if it's just THEIR amp or what. they explained that their 800 had the bright cap removed, and that's why it sounds different. they also put out 2 different RAT models after they realized the one they'd been modeling for so long was actually broken. goes to show that 2 amps off the assembly line can sound different. the cab update was a huge upgrade, but it's still their weakest link. i shouldn't be able to make better IR's in my one bedroom apartment :D but all-in-all, yeah, an incredible value

@Johnny-oy9fh 4 ай бұрын

Definitely....tube amp replacement

@MK-oz2lf 4 ай бұрын

Ask Sweetwater for the Quilter Overdrive 202. That’s their high gain amp since you already have the ToneBlock

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

Quilter actually sent me one last week!

@newskinrecordings 11 күн бұрын

I really dig the pod go 😎

@Dad-Gad 15 күн бұрын

Better late than never eh 👏

@froorocks1000 Ай бұрын

Why you're here starts at 04:29

@Henysipper 4 ай бұрын

I've heard the Helix or the Stomp sound great with the Fryette Power Station.

@FastRedPonyCar 4 ай бұрын

Everything sounds good with the powerstation LOL

@mikeham3123 4 ай бұрын

Wait, you didn't try the badonk amp model? Blasphemy!

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

I did! very end of the video 😂

@mikeham3123 4 ай бұрын

Doh!!! I have the patience of a lamp.

@scottwilcox6313 4 ай бұрын

The stomp sounds good. Klye, I have a JEL modded 2204 that needs some tweeking. Can you recommend a ultra high gain amp tech? I'm looking to add another tube gain stage. Live in Wisconsin. Thanks, I'm a tube amp guy. They feel differently than digital.

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

Shea of Monomyth Amplification would be a good start!

@scottwilcox6313 4 ай бұрын

@@belligerentamateur thanks do you have an email for him. I can't find one.

@zoomzoom3950 Ай бұрын

I have a Helix Floor which I use with FRFR, no other outboard gear. With my tube amps, I use a HX-Effects either in front or 4CM depending on the amp. Thinking about getting a HX-Stomp to pair with my Boss SY-300; I have the SY-1000 but prefer the traditional guitar sounds in Helix.

@watkinscharles829 4 ай бұрын

Can you blend amps on the HX STOMP?

@justmehere6094 4 ай бұрын

Since the 3.5 firmware, yes. Just can't go crazy on other blocks, or you can max the processing out. Stomp IS half the horsepower of the big Helix.

@robertbmxpa 4 ай бұрын

SOAKED IN TORMENT. VICTIM OF LIES...... NIce. Love me some All Out War man, one of my favorite riffs to jam also. Nice video. I'll give the XL Stomp a try.

@dudenamedskip 8 күн бұрын

True At All Costs is a record I still listen to today and one of my favorite shirts I lost in the 00s (what the fuck shirt). New to the channel, cool lore to find out.

@belligerentamateur 8 күн бұрын

appreciate ya, man! i didnt play on that record so i think im allowed to say its a classic for straight edge hardcore at this point 😆

@dudenamedskip 8 күн бұрын

@@belligerentamateur oh 100% no doubt a classic! Cool to see all the hardcore tees too, you ever think about doing tone recreation videos? I saw you in a B4B shirt the other day and made me think I'd like to know how to get Rob's tone. Might be too niche for clicks, idk.

@kmw5100 Ай бұрын

the way I run my HX stomp is into the return of my Marshall DSL20. Which don't get me wrong, that is a nice bit of amp, but I have Helix native and have a "Placater" patch that gives me all my different levels of gain exactly the way i've always wanted them to sound, and running a 2x12 with a V30 and an H75 creamback just makes it come to life in the room in a way Helix native never did through my monitors.

@JimThompson-i3u Ай бұрын

I have tube amps, SS amps, and Multi FX/modelers/profilers. I like them all. I'm not buying another tube amp...just yet, but I will be buying a powered speaker designed for a modeler/profiler. My Headrush Prime & L6 Pod Go Wireless are both quite nice, and once they're dialed in they both sound really good. The convenience of this setup is much appreciated. I love my '74 Twin Reverb but it's a pain to haul around. It sits in one spot and doesn't move. The key to the modeler/profiler is to spend a lot of time tweaking and dialing it in at band practice volume. It's worth the time investment. Great time to be a guitar player.

@monstercadaver 4 ай бұрын

So would you rather have a HX Stomp or a Friedman IR-X? I had a GT-1000core but I’ve gone back to just a Marshall and 3-5 pedals. Problem with the modellers aren’t their multitude of options, but me being faced with them. I make my Marshall family friendly by running into a load and IR and then headphones.

@FastRedPonyCar 4 ай бұрын

I've owned this bad boy for years and to be honest, for an "amp" they're just okay IMO but I don't do really high gain stuff with mine. It was always modern rock and some classic rock cover stuff and that mid-gain crunch is where most modelers and profilers can suffer and where even half decent tube amps are much better. I still use it from time to time but for the longest period, I used it as my main FX unit on my board going to the loop of my Jubilee or Splawn and for that, it's unbeatable IMO. The power, size, ease of use on stage and with the software and overall quality of the effects make it a no-brainer for that use. As for using it as an amp, I'm not impressed with the built in cab/speaker sim. My own IR's sounded way better and running it into the OX Stomp sounds even better.

@WallofSounds5317 4 ай бұрын

Oh great another computer accesory disguised as a pedal. Here's an idea use real amps and pedals if you want real sounds, if you want computer generated simulations of what the computers then play with your computer instead of your guitar. no wonder people are not practicing guitar because they spend more time on computers and computer accessories.

@tylerleavitt2715 4 ай бұрын

Love the symphony of 2:33 destruction references in the first excerpt bah bah bump bum bum bum bah bah bump

@SaintDiablo 2 ай бұрын

Very cool and straight forward video! Been using HX Stomp with Power Stage 700 into 2ea Marshall Mode Four 280 Cabs in stereo. Plenty loud!! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

@DareBear2099 2 ай бұрын

My HX Stomp is the best musical purchase I’ve made as a semi-pro musician. I use it direct for worship gigs and small stage cover band gigs with a few pedals. It’s versital as hell, easy to use and takes pedals really well.

@honeybadger1810 4 ай бұрын

Kyle! Love the vids. I just bought an fm3 and it’s on the way, I also have a 5150 that I plan on using for the power section to run the fm3 through for the time being. When I do that though I have no control over the volume. My question is, how are you controlling the output of the amp? Via the helix?

@mdaronch 2 ай бұрын

Best gear cost benefit ever. Plenty of amps, great effects, audio interface. Love mine. Great video !!!

@donovanrebbechi3334 4 ай бұрын

I have a fractal fm3 and I love it into the oiwer sectuib if my XXX. It is OK through a QSC speaker (with cab / power amp modeling on) but the tube power amp is more fun in the room. In the demos I've heard of the line 6 stuff, the Badonk model has more of the 5150-like midrange punch than their 5150 model. Usually the 5150 model would be the first thing I'd reach for, on these it would be the badonk. Sometimes there's something to be said for not trying to copy an existing product and instead just going for the most bad@55 sound possible

@AD1978leo 4 ай бұрын

Real subtle Kyle lmao would that happen to be anchovy pizza? It's so Monday I was like, hey, I also love pizza.. master of disguise just like Clark Kent.. 😁

@Wellcee426 4 ай бұрын

Isn’t the HX Valve Driver a model of the BK Butler tube driver? Not a BB preamp?

@miket2728 4 ай бұрын

Freaking algorithm keeps hiding your videos from me. Definitely wanted to hear your take on this!

@MarcelCaddy 4 ай бұрын

My straight edge brother XXX In my experience as long as it goes through a tube power amp into a real cab it sounds amazing

@ricopaxton 4 ай бұрын

Great indepth and value! Best demo on the HX Stomp amp section by far! Sweetwater invested their money well!

@fabiol.9161 4 ай бұрын

To me saying : what amp do you play? A mesa mark iv rather than a mesa mark iv sim makes all the difference in the world. 😊

@FourMypersonaluse 4 ай бұрын

Is it "THE BEST " one ,,, did you get "THE BEST " One yet 👶🎤🙏👶🎤🙏

@huemorris6099 4 ай бұрын

You, using the words 'tubby and congested', got my sub... Best description of the sound too much gain can induce, and I've not heard it put like that before. Spot on! 🤟😎🤘

@johnscott2076 4 ай бұрын

Saw earth crisis years ago- Gammorahs season ends. Pretty badass song

@sambeckman5308 4 ай бұрын

That SLO patch has a very Slayer vibe going for it.

@djabthrash 4 ай бұрын

RIP Eddie Sutton LEEWAY btw :(

@dakotaxmidwest 4 ай бұрын

Pennsylvania Straight Edge Kings

@Dezmond2inbox 4 ай бұрын

Splawn not sold yet? He still stand on a Diezel )))

@teenlaqueepha 3 ай бұрын

17:15 Mark IV Quilter tone was strong asf

@ericslimzahl 3 ай бұрын

Ahh! The background hiss …

@djabthrash 4 ай бұрын

Sounds great

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

thanks man!

@msteele0 4 ай бұрын

Bro... Awesome monitors you have there! :)

@katzensprung7449 4 ай бұрын

Great video, thanks a lot, Kyle!!

@mattvdh 4 ай бұрын

I think you're better off with an iconic imo

@gabrielstevens41 4 ай бұрын

Shit had that hx sounding good.

@zachgeorge2175 4 ай бұрын

I’m the person who finds the tone lol

@guitarexpert2245 4 ай бұрын

Sounds buzzy and empty.

@kimseniorb 4 ай бұрын

what you should try is NAM or at least tonex. you almost wouldn’t be able to tell the difference with the real amp. helix is 2015 tech. come on

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

I have multiple videos on tonex. come on.

@johanjotun1647 4 ай бұрын

How are you going to Hear a Pedal like the stomp in a ThrashDjent Power trio situation? I need to get somehing with enough balls that it sounds good from 10 ft away standing infront of kickdrums and Holychina.

@justmehere6094 4 ай бұрын

You run it through some kind of power amp and cab, or powered FRFR AND/OR FOH.

@gilbertduenas6031 4 ай бұрын

I read somewhere if you take the 5150 model and turn the bias all the way off or almost off (cold) it sounds and feels way more like a real 5150. I dont have an actual 5150 to compare it to but I do like it better with the bias turned to like 1 or 1.5

@VPB1218 4 ай бұрын

Very interesting I’m going to try that tomorrow night.

@redkurn 4 ай бұрын

dids you have to add a +24db gain to any of the preamps? someone told me line 6 did a thing to try and level them, been having a issue with the rockerverb being very low output.

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

Nope! Didn't add any sort of volume boost to the preamp models at all

@erickedwards0119 4 ай бұрын

Thanx for the EXC shout out Kyle! Real tube amps are obviously king but the helix quilter combo is great when traveling with a tube head is out of the question. Love the sounds you got from that set up!

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

Appreciate ya, man. I picked Scott's brain on this a bit back and it inspired this video. Great little travel rig that doesn't sacrifice much in the way of tone!

@GrMfull 4 ай бұрын

I sold it and now I regret...

@ral0958 4 ай бұрын

Why you sold it and why you regret?

@GrMfull 3 ай бұрын

@@ral0958 I was looking for a modeler 4 years ago. I watched tons of vidéo to find the most accurate from real amps. I bought an ampero, an HX stomp and then a mooer 300 lite. The interface of HX is weird but it was the best sounding unit. Ampero and Mooer have a colored tone, and the use of Mooer is horrible with buttons to turn for setting (when you tien, its too slow for EQ for ex to go to 200hz to 2000hz for exemple). I Switch to a Mooer to have capture tone. Anyway, now with all plugins I think it's better and easier to have great tone. That's why I sold it. I regret because I have a différent need today and I wanted to have a unit modeler again ans the Price have grown since 4 years ...

@GrMfull 3 ай бұрын

@@ral0958 I regreat because HX stomp sounds great, and my need has changed. I bought 3 units ; Ampero, HX stomp and Mooer 300 lite. Ampero is the one which sounds the "worst". Mids are colored, like a mis cut. Mooer 300 lite is less colored, but litle bit too in mid range. I bought it yo have a capture modeler. It was cool to have a lot of AMP sim, but the use with black round knobs IS horrible ! For exemple, you have an EQ set by default AT 200hz and you want to set it AT 2500hz, you have to turn the knob again again ans again to achieve. Not practical ! And HX stomp IS the better in term of sounds quality meaning closed to Real AMP, with multiple setting. Only software interface IS ugly. Mu need change because I play on a laptop when I'm at my girlfriend's house, and it is not enough powerfull to support 2 guitar plugins liké Nameless of Disruptor + bass plugin + drums. So playing on a modeler is a solution actualy for my specific need.

@pilchard8741 4 ай бұрын

Love your stuff, please could you review the kma pylon gate please! I would love to hear your opinion!

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! For reasons I don't want to get into, I will not be reviewing any KMA equipment, though.

@418a5150 4 ай бұрын

IMO Tonex is mutch betted for basic HxC tones

@rustynales4597 4 ай бұрын

Just dropping by to say how sick your riffs have gotten

@belligerentamateur 4 ай бұрын

Dude, thank you!

@aldersmoke1 4 ай бұрын

Every time I see one of these modeler versus amp comparisons, the result is the same. Of course the modeler sounds great at room level and directed-outed into whatever software is ultimately responsible for its playback on KZbin. In that context, modelers are indistinguishable from full blown tube amps. However, turn one of the modelers up when you're in the room standing in front of the cabinet and it loses against the tube amp quickly, especially for clean tones. For this reason I suspect the modelers work really well with in-ears. But they fall short coming out of a cabinet in three-dimensional space.

@danisthebastard 4 ай бұрын

This is just not true. What is even the context for “losing” especially for a clean tone? I’ve AB’d the helix in a room with multiple tube amps, and power sections. Any amount of differences were negligible and largely dependent on the type of power being used. It might not be for you, but any concept that any modeler “loses” to any tube amp is guitar rabble-rousing. There are just more options now.

@tfontmusic 4 ай бұрын

Do you get to keep it?

@axrip1 4 ай бұрын

juicy

@seanmichael8411 4 ай бұрын

So... I have the 50watt Stealth. I have modeler boards including one based on the hx stomp. I have neglected to use the stealth as a power amp for the modelers because it doesn't have a master volume control. So if you plug direct into the return, does it sound different if you run the amp on the blue, green, or red channels? Theoretically you would be bypassing the preamp but the amp only has pre-amp volume controls which effect the tone.

@blitzkrieg3238 4 ай бұрын

make sure volume on your preamp/modeler starts all the way down and only bring it up to what you want.

@seanmichael8411 4 ай бұрын

@@blitzkrieg3238 My concern was with the fact that the EVH Stealth only has preamp volume controls. Most amps also have a "Master" volume to give you general volume for the power amp but the EVH does not. If you raise the volume on your preamp, you color your tone.

@jconner3891 4 ай бұрын

I have the fractal fm 3. I’m getting use to it. ❤

@sirgerbilmacintosh9101 4 ай бұрын

Can it be plugged into the front of an amp that doesn't have an effects loop?

@frjhracing 4 ай бұрын

every modeler can but its one of those "it depends" for what level of usefulness it has. Are you planning on bypassing the preamps models and just using stomp boxes? does your amp also have a fx loop? if it does you can use the "4 cable method" or you can bypass your amps preamp state and just run amp models through the fx return (which is how kyle has it going through that evh power stage). Its generally going to sound bad when you run a amp model -> through a real amps preamp -> and then its output/ speaker cab. Also a big mistake modeler noobs make is leave the "IR's" (impulse response) on when it plugged to a guitar amp already going through a real speaker cab. The IR's are design to emulate a speakers voicing like when recording direct. If you have a really clean, high headroom amp....then you should be totally fine running a modeler, but be mindful that its not going to sound accurate or what might be considered "good" when downloading presets. If you're forced, then you have to tune in the presets for your exact amp.

@sirgerbilmacintosh9101 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your response. I want to try it through an old tube amp, with no effects loop. I suppose I'm worried mainly about the signal being too hot to plug into the front of an amp, but there's probably a way to adjust that. I would think there would be.

@frjhracing 4 ай бұрын

@@sirgerbilmacintosh9101 Depending on the power of the amp and how clean it is. You can probably counter any unintended breakup by lowering the modelers master volume and turning up master volume (if it has one) on the tube amp. Treat it like a boost pedal when it comes this, in my experience, pretty much all modern modelers have a good amount overall gain so they can definitely can overdrive an amp even on a clean preset!. Aside from that you get so much value from a modeler. I think the only con with them is that sometimes people just want plug and play and don't want to tinker. With a setup like yours you may have to tinker quite a bit. though the interfaces are getting much easier! Good luck!