Tuca And Bertie Can't Make It Alone | Folding Ideas

[@crazyinsane500]

I used to not be upset that T&B got cancelled. Then I realized: This got cancelled but 13 Reasons Why got another season, and they had to apologize for the previous seasons being so bad that a notable increase in suicides may have been caused by the show. It's upsetting that Netflix would rather promote and romanticize suicide than have more seasons of a show that respectfully tackles a myriad of topics.

[@confusedwhale]

Netflix is mostly doubling down on dark, edgy, teen shows. 13 reasons fits that to a T.

[@Kimmie6772]

I think the live action adaptation of death note is the culmination of this dark, edgy, romance drama aesthetic they've been doubling down on for certain shows. Like its trying to echo the vibe of twilight without being as awkward.

[@edgarallenhoe3518]

I think this is why: any show that gets a lot of press, either because it's good or because it's bad, brings more people to the platform. After the first season, that increase gets smaller and smaller, but those diminishing returns aren't even. After a couple of seasons, a really good show has pretty much reached its potential for Netflix in terms of new subscribers, but a bad show, especially one that's gotten worse or more outrageous over time, will still have people saying "wow, is it really that bad? I've got to check this out!" Netflix only cares about increasing its profits through new subscribers, which means that bad, cheap tv shows that last about three seasons or bad, cheap movies that have a sequel or two are the strongest bet. Emily in Paris will keep getting renewed until people stop making video essays and memes about it.

[@gayagenda4351]

Luckily we're now in the movement of season three

[@glostechk8544]

“On BoJack, I don’t do any of the writing, I’m more responsible for the look of the show. But I am a writer and I have stories I wanted to tell, so it was great to have my own space to tell stories that are entirely from the perspective of the female characters, to get more into the nuances of what it means to be a woman.” -Lisa Hanawalt I hope she gets the opportunity to create season 2.

[@mlorpf]

Oh, I wondered where I recognized the art style from. I freaking love the look of both shows

[@charliedawson6318]

Netflix did *absolutely* no karleting for the show and then cancelled when nobody watched it. Go figure.

[@SaintSeiyaKing]

Well good news!

[@thelonelyelephant]

Adult Swim just picked it up!

[@StNick119]

@@thelonelyelephant OH MY GOD REALLY? I started and finished the show today. I really wanted to watch it for a while to support it, but thought perhaps it was too late thanks to the cancellation.

[@PhilosophyTube]

"Looking good and breaking up the action or drama for a couple minutes as a narrative exhale are a good enough purpose" YES!! THANK YOU!! I wish some people would realise the same is true of video essays! Also damn the end of this video hits like a ton of bricks

[@mathematics117]

Fellow creators supporting each other gotta love it, also your videos are amazing. :)

[@kurlykayla9013]

Love your stuff! You guys are so inspiring

[@SamRandolph]

@@mathematics117 It always makes me happy to see that. Mutual aid, comrades!

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[@notpointed]

@niftysheep Is this a point about Nostalgia Critic?

[@phishfullofasha]

Tuca and Bertie was honestly one of the best things I saw this year. The revelation of Bertie's childhood sexual abuse completely lines up with her character, and her struggles, without being the one thing that makes her who she is. It reminds me a bit of Catch 22, how the absurd plot circles and circles this one terrible event in her life without quite being able to bear to look at it. But in the end Bertie talks about what happened and faces the reality of it and takes steps forward.

[@albertogomez-han8366]

I'm so happy someone's talking about this show. It's so... Bizarre, but good. Like an ogre, with layers.

[@samwallaceart288]

Albert Jay - I am 68th like. I am entrusting the next like to the wind.

[@williammacey7935]

I am 420th like

[@PistachioBandit]

This show was important and Netflix discarded it.

[@kendomyers]

Meh

[@BØØTYP0UNDER666]

Hey but at least we’re getting 5 seasons of big head right? Right? 🤮🤮🤮

[@kendomyers]

@@BØØTYP0UNDER666 Double meh

[@GamerSlyRatchet1]

They can’t. All of its 52 episodes are already being produced.

[@chartreusemm1481]

I’ve heard people propose that Tuca and Bertie was too unpopular to warrant renewal because of its unnecessary crude sexual humor...... but like if that was true Big Mouth would have died quick. Uhh.

[@FalseKing98]

griffin mcelroy voice: pornography for birds

[@aricwood869]

Polycerate Majesty I WANNA TALK ABOUT BIRD LUBE! NOW!!

[@FilmsYouHate]

But bird seed isn't a fundamental component of the scene...

[@OhNoBohNo]

bird rights, bird suffrage!

[@nicolle2126]

i am very uncomfortable with the energy we've created in the comments section today

[@SeymourDisapproves]

"50 words to describe birds..." *"SEXY"*

[@ellohmellow6578]

"When Speckle calls Bertie a 'Tart' and starts spanking her, she's super into it." This fuckin' sentence delivered so neutrally, omfg I've died--

[@mateo2681]

Added to the list: videos that made me unexpectedly cry.

[@urfavCCA]

OH MY GOD, ME TOO! His breakdown gave me a lot of insight on how I handle myself and how my partner does as well in our relationship and it's giving me a LOT to think about our boundaries

[@azodin6236]

Are you two children? It's just a show.

[@Fantasticanations]

@@azodin6236Obviously they cried over realizing the lessons discussed in the video and their implications in life and relationships. Why does it matter if the powerful thoughts in the video are discussed through the lens of a season of an adult cartoon? That doesn't make them any less valid.

[@otaku3OBSESSION]

Azodin only an actual child would trivialize other people’s emotions. Guess you must be eternally waiting for the puberty fairy to show up.

[@MarchingGrrl]

Azodin if they are children in your eyes, then what does that make you?

[@Wrynwynn]

Netflix: *hires an amazing studio that makes Netflix famous* Studio: “can we get paid more now?” Netflix: *cancels both shows and blacklists the company*

[@MCArt25]

that's CAPITALISM!

[@twinkiesmaster69]

The west is obsessives with appealing to the mainstream, if it's even slightly out of line : it's gone

[@pointynoodle]

Ryan Stoll To be fair, BH was scheduled to end on season 6. Fucking awful what happened, though.

[@karol1986]

@@pointynoodle the showrunner said they were actually keen to make more, but Netflix told them upfront to "wrap things up", from Vultureinterview: "(...)I asked Netflix a few years ago, Look, do me a favor: If you ever think I should not do that, if you think maybe we’ve reached the end of the road, just give me a heads-up. They don’t have to do that, obviously. But I said I would appreciate it if I could have the forewarning to give the show a proper finale, and not set up some cliffhangers that will never pay off. So when they picked up season six, they said, Hey, remember how you asked for that heads-up? We think that this is your heads-up. So I’m very grateful that we got that notice.(...)I thought we’d go a couple more years. But you know, it’s a business. They’ve got to do what’s right for them, and six years is a very healthy run for a TV show. Frankly, I’m amazed we got this far. So I can’t complain. I think if we premiered on any other network, or even on Netflix on any other time than when we did, I don’t know if we would’ve gotten the second season." BTW, staying true to shows spirit, am I the only one imagining him being interviewed by an actual vulture? ;)

[@thegreatcheesedemon]

IDidntKnowTheyAllowed ANameThisLongForAttention That implies niche media hardly exists in the west, when in truth there’s a crapton if it. A decent amount is even made by Netflix, but that’s just the tip of the tip.

[@bardw.1542]

I see Dan here talking about crossing lines and boundaries while wearing a sweater with a single prominent line on it. Clever.

[@LolaSebastian]

Thank you so much for covering Tuca & Bertie! I fell in love with it instantly and was devastated when it got canceled in such an untimely way. It was the best show that came out this year and it's one of the only shows that I've seen gracefully address not just sex and boundaries but mental health and generational trauma. I think you summed it up perfectly: compromises are difficult, but worth it.

[@vivena9]

Bojack Horseman adressed mental health better then any other recent show...6years ago when it started.

[@OldKingBone]

@@vivena9 I believe while Bojack covers a wide range of issues societal mental and personal the way T&B (as a show and characters) handles and even displays how they manifest in a person and in society are different.

[@ZTanMURReneRs]

@@OldKingBone I think T&B allows itself to address more subtle issues easier because it's world is less on the surface ugly than Bojack's.

[@LolaSebastian]

@@vivena9 Bojack and Tuca are by the same creator, Lisa Hanawalt

[@autumnwyvern489]

@@LolaSebastian Lisa only did the art direction for bojack i thought? the writing team between the two shows are different

[@s.g.7572]

Lisa Hannawalt: *creates an intelligent, funny and original show that resonates with audiences and could even genuinely help people overcome trauma* Audiences: So obviously Netflix will market it and allow it to flourish so as to give it the best chance of survival. Netflix: -well yes but actually- no

[@seth410]

S. G. I said the same thing about Pirates of Dark Water.

[@psycane8462]

Tuca and Bertie being cancelled was the biggest television atrocity of 2019, and that's saying something

[@teddyfurstman1997]

Damm right 2019 sucks because of it. Damm Netflix sometimes.

[@albertogomez-han8366]

@@teddyfurstman1997 It took ages to get anywhere.

[@EilonwyWanderer]

I'm glad I saw this before diving into the series. Netflix seems to really get off on killing its best content... *cough*Sense8*cough* I may still check out Tuca and Bertie, but going into it with the knowledge that it's over and done with will certainly help me manage my expectations! Sigh...

[@zekewalker1350]

This was particularly upsetting because I heard the announcement of Tuca & Bertie months in advance, but netflix did so little marketing for it that I didn't even know it was released until two days before they cancelled it. (And I'm a woman who watches adult cartoons so this should've been all over my "new releases" feed.

[@steinistein8611]

I'm a huge fan of bojack horseman and I was sooo disappointed with the show. Of course I didn't expect it to be the same and was open minded. But the first episode was so incredibly cringy and not funny it felt like watching Amy Schumer. After the first 7 minutes or so I skipped through the rest of the episode hoping it would tone down but it didn't. I was shocked with how incredibly bad it was and never wasted one more thought on it until I saw this video Edit: typo

[@benjaminschultz8046]

Thought-provoking analysis of eroticism in film aside, I can't get enough of that damn sweater! Look how comfy!

[@WangleLine]

This is the real highlight of this video

[@mxpronounced3224]

It's Big Joel level of comfy

[@steinistein8611]

That's a wonderful profile picture you have there my fellow critter

[@jasmine-ruff-puff9951]

A Fjord icon in the wild!

[@blanksymortimer4088]

Sweaters are in right now. go out and get you a good one

[@CatOperated]

Keep this up and you can introduce yourself at parties as the guy who talks about BDSM on KZbin.

[@Shivwuffy]

As someone who gets frustrated By sex scenes in Media. I was fine with what was going on in Tuca and Bertie, Mostly because it was buried into the narrative and did seem like a progression. A lot of the time those scenes just seem dropped in there for no purpose and at times completely at odds with whats going on.

[@Vexxa_]

im gonna die mad that netflix cancelled this show :\

[@HadBabits]

I feel ya :C

[@chartreusemm1481]

I gotta wonder if the female centric perspective ( although speckle is a great, nuanced, like-able character) had anything to do with its early demise. We don’t often see female anim show runners and even fewer adult anim female show runners :-/

[@maksuree]

@@HadBabits because mediocrity sells

[@Gordy3000]

@@chartreusemm1481 That, and also the studio unionized.

[@riley8385]

@@Gordy3000 That explains a lot.

[@MatthijsvanDuin]

speckle, the dom, is the one who uses the safeword? I really like that (also, random PSA: do always pay attention to your partner when trying out BDSM. don't assume people are necessarily even _capable_ of saying a safeword if something goes wrong and they end up in a bad place inside)

[@cidevant002]

That is why you should have non-verbal signs that something isn't okay alongside safeword, like a certain gesture, clicking tongue, snapping fingers, especially for when the scene requires the sub to have their mouth covered.

[@ThatCrazyDotty]

That's something I think is really well covered in Jenny Trout's The Boss series. Sometimes the sub is lost in sub headspace to the extent that she is unable to safe word, so her Dom makes sure to keep checking in and safe word when he is uncomfortable carrying on.

[@kiwi8133]

Speckle is one of the most women-respecting-juice-drinking men in fiction in a long while

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@nopenoperino8295 are you a guy?

[@meepmoop2308]

@@nopenoperino8295 yeah and if i remember correctly he broke up with her so he respects himself too.

[@Angrysneezes]

From just the clips you played here I've fallen instantly in love with this show's aesthetic. If only Netflix advertised this show AT ALL. From what I saw of it I thought it was just Diet Bojack

[@smjaiteh]

Me: It's pretty amazing that Tuca and Bertie is a cartoon comedy about talking birds and can detail romance and human relationships much better than most comedies released with humans. Hatoful Boyfriend: *Am I a joke to you?* Me: Yes. Obviously, yes. Who in their right mind would ever take you seriously.

[@Blutzen]

I have so many Opinions about Hatoful Boyfriend. That dang game.

[@VashdaCrash]

I liked that game but damn, aren't you right.

[@benburke3015]

Sambou Jaiteh I mean, you’re the one who bought it up, my dude.

[@arturoaguilar6002]

How dare you to badmouth the Ultimate Pudding!? But seriously, the Bad Boy’s Love arc is a pretty good story about the effect people close to you can have on your life and the way that you respond to the impact they had on you. Also politics.

[@sweetpeabee4983]

Doctor bird, best bird. Full stop.

[@unseenmolee]

im so sad that tuca and bertie was cancled, its such a good show

[@csours]

Oh man I am so glad you're covering Tuca and Bertie. I loved that show and I don't think enough people watched it.

[@AvgJane19]

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[@AnnoyingAsianWitch]

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[@ruki4929]

As someone who finds it difficult to get interpersonal relationships, the fact that everyone has issues trying to determine their own boundaries, as well as others, is nice to know. I guess I never understood that the messy, exhausting chaos of understanding where the lines are is necessary and common, so I ended up avoiding it entirely. Just do whatever people ask of me because I have no clue what my limits are, and I pray I never have to find out where others are because that would require crossing them. That also stopped me from really talking to people past pleasantries and necessities, often. But you're right; we can't make it alone. No-one really can. So it's time to start wading into the cold muddy water; because there's definitely treasure at the bottom.

[@frickinfrick8488]

Bertie and speckles relationship gave me a lot more confidence to sort out my own. I can’t really describe how good it is to have a show explore the same problems you’re going through, pat you on the back and let you know it’s ok to experience them, point out how your problems affect others and encourage you to fix yourself and your relationships. This show was so much more than I expected, it was really special.

[@pon7630]

I'm just going to sit here and wait for the bojack horseman video once it ends next month

[@nn6404]

God I loved Tuca and Bertie. It felt like a show tailor made to my personal interests.

[@rosenrot234]

I really like that they show Speckle being the one to use the safewords. A lot of folks aren't really aware that it's okay for the dominant one to use it.

[@Krackerjax]

Thank you for this. I recently came out of a 5 year long relationship because of the discovery of new boundaries and trauma from my childhood that I didn't know were there. Good news is I learned about them and now I can work on them/myself, bad news is it cost me a loving relationship. Cheers, Dan.

[@notaninquisitor7274]

"We can't make it alone" words to live by

[@jamesklark6562]

I've been making it alone for 23 years. No wife, no parents. Just me, my job, and some nifty photos of some chick's toes.

[@TurboPikachu]

Not an Inquisitor Too true for too many people.

[@Rubberman202]

"we don't often know what our boundaries are until we hit them" I can relate. :(

[@purpleghost106]

This essay is wonderful. I've never seen the show, but your words reach beyond it; the nuance of boundaries in interpersonal relationships is such an important topic that rarely gets discussed so thoroughly. Thank you Dan, I deeply appreciate it

[@theenglishman]

Seeing the Patreon draft version of this was so surreal because you brought up points with zero context since the clips weren't there. Now it makes considerably more sense. Great work as always Dan! :)

[@castromanist]

Jesus man, I love most of your videos, but this is one of the most insightful analysis' I've ever seen... Thank you so much for your work!

[@scyllamonster]

I've never even seen this show but your analysis of it was so well worded and touching that I got misty-eyed at your final line. Bravo!

[@meats7854]

weird how many things ive seen this year that i've literally lived out

[@sleepingdogpro]

You are not alone in that.

[@hugmynutus]

Adulthood means we are the targeted demographic

[@meats7854]

@@sleepingdogpro I'm sorry. It's comforting to know but it also sucks that other folks gotta experience this too.

[@vrixphillips]

I was SO upset when they canceled this masterpiece.

[@vrixphillips]

@Julia - 𝙾𝚙𝚎𝚗 𝙼𝚢 PROFILE exactly UGH

[@WangleLine]

My monthy Folding Ideas binge watching phase just started, so this is the perfect time for you to upload more *hashtag content*

[@kiwi8133]

glad im not the only one who seems to just rewatch the same video essays over and over... but still get meaningful things out of it!!! love this little corner of the internet!

[@gatsbysdead]

THANK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT THIS SHOW IVE BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT FOR MONTHS!!!!

[@joshuaalan7580]

Far and away the most criminally underrated show on Netflix and I'm STILL mad about it

[@fionaaruldassart]

Came to watch this after Adult Swim decided to put on a second season! Woohoo

[@aquamelody8]

I've only seen the first episode but your analysis has convinced me to watch more.

[@paulmitchum8658]

I can't get over this question: Why does a bird need a ladder?

[@tripplesouth]

Because a bird can't fly well while wearing a jacket.

[@tuffy135ify]

Have you seen parrots playing with ladders?

[@TyGently]

so he can use his hands to use tools, he's fixing the roof after all

[@pieosaurus3]

Because he’s a good, safe bird

[@Furore2323]

T&B not getting renewed is an ART CRIME.

[@spekticat]

I love this video. I found myself crying halfway through without knowing why, like Birdie. Thankyou for giving shape to thoughts and feelings so eloquently 💜

[@tirone7520]

Tuca and Bertie really impressed me. I loved how real and heartfelt it was. Im sad to learn it was canceled.

[@slightlyoffensivedadjokes]

the more and more I think about tuca and bertie, the more genius I recognize behind the writing and just all its brilliant, nuanced decisions. as a born and raised woman, I've never once seen a show that felt like it was specifically written by women like tuca and bertie. it really speaks to my unique experiences and perspectives that I rarely see depicted, the s2 episode vibe check being one of the best fucking things ive seen in a LONG time. ive never seen sexual assault trauma portrayed more perfectly than in bertie. it's not a flawless show, but goddam it says a LOT and it says it so fucking well. to see female sexuality portrayed so relatably, it means a lot to me.

[@kite-flying_potato]

So happy it's getting a second season. It's incredibly well written and visually unique.

[@MinkMcMonkey]

Hey Dan. This content really hit me where I needed it today. This was really really nice for me to see this morning. I am so grateful for your body of work, your work means a lot to me. Thank you for the work you do.

[@arecusant8002]

Your ability to lay out deeply complex feelings through words is some of your most captivating content, to me. I feel the same way coming out of this the way I came out of the Annihilation video. Great work! :D

[@tabula_rosa]

this is a shockingly prescient video for me rn. After being together w someone for 5 years and them breaking their depression for the first time, we're having to discover the hard way that i have needs ive become accustomed to fulfilling with them thru my own effort & without their (or my) knowing it's happening or how important it is, that i now can't bc of their newfound health & independence, it's been a struggle having to learn my boundaries and needs the hard way now that they're better

[@smallish1632]

good luck to both of you :)

[@IrisGlowingBlue]

^ Well-wishes!

[@chocokittybo]

That's certainly a struggle, but one I think you're equipped to face. I believe in you

[@7sugarsheeps]

The video resonates with me rn a lot too. We started going to therapy and I really hope we can figure things out a better way than we were doing before... I wish you both the best luck and send you a bit of my strength

[@mrheisenberg83]

Kudos to you for making it through their depression for 5 years with them. That is not an easy feat to pull off. You must be very strong to make it this far. Keep staying strong and you will get through this together. Glad to hear they are getting better. That is not easy as well. Seems like you are a couple made to last.

[@beansfebreeze]

I couldn't get into Tuca and Bertie, but I support the discussion of it.

[@juliantrueman6542]

How far did you go? It made me really uncomfortable and not impressed at first so I skipped it but then when u was dead bored i pushed thtiugh that out of curiosity, and maybe around episode 4 or 5 the show really started doing it for me.

[@10z20]

I sometimes feel prudish, a lot of these newer Netflix animated series place an inordinate amount of emphasis on sex and sexuality, and I'm just not comfortable with that.

[@juliantrueman6542]

@@10z20 thats absolutely okay, no need to feel invalid for that. I think there is a lot of value in it as an unexplored part of art though. This kind of art can help people understand themselves in real life, snd media has had a huge blindspot for sexuality until recently.

[@steinistein8611]

@@juliantrueman6542 I think you're giving them too much credit, it's usually just there because sex sells and maybe to provoce some super prude people

[@HadBabits]

​@@steinistein8611 Have you watched the show? One of the things I was most impressed by their use of nudity. When it comes to breasts they aren't just sexy, they're also funny, sometimes they're an expression of freedom, and other times they're a burden or a vulnerability. Instead of treating them just as an object for lust, they're explored as a human experience; in a way that's both meaningful and playful.

[@GJ-bq9hd]

The importance of such an analysis for inspiring screenwriters/directors/creators is so big. It helps to more clearly define what constitutes a good narrative and how one might be able to actually explore an idea inside the context of the story, independently of the visual style. It's so important in this age in which almost anyone has access to the means of producing good-looking content (which is awesome), but not necessarily a good, compelling story, bc that depends on abilities and experiences. Bravo. Thank you so much for the video!

[@ereshthemistoclesnausicaah8059]

A really great movie that similarly uses scenes of intimacy (and explicit sex scenes) to explore themes, character, plot, aesthetic, and tone (among other aspects) is the 2017 film "The Handmaiden", directed by Park Chan-Wook. Different scenes involving intimacy and/or sex throughout the film are used to explore the themes of personal freedom, power dynamics, societal oppression, love, lust, grief, separation, connection, story-telling, duplicity, metatextualism, symbolism, abuse, and more.

[@BATCHARRO]

I like you and I'm sorry you probably got demonetized before I made this comment.

[@FoldingIdeas]

Safe from the yellow dollar sign so far!

[@Kavira111]

I found this after watching Curio’s video, and this did not disappoint. I love Tuca and Bertie, I’ve watched it 3 times. It’s comforting but also educational. Thank for making this video, I learned more about my favorite TV show in such a genuine and meaningful way.

[@TheLastRCdV]

I have the sad feeling that this video, just like the series, will be unjustly underrated

[@leonardorestrepo5196]

Adult Swim has quietly become responsible for the sound, look, feel, and sentiment of modern counterculture. It's an incubator of talents like Flying Lotus and Tyler the Creator, Eric Andre and Hanibal Buress, and now, Dan Harmon and Lisa Hanawalt. I'm hoping adult swim continues to do so with an eye for risky, weird, and mindful content.

[@MediumDSpeaks]

You ever hear something and realize that you're gonna be using that as a descriptor or argument for the rest of your life in a tonof different ways that will interlace into huge amounts of lifelong points you present to others? "We can't know our boundaries until we hit them" just became one of those things, and I'm glad I became so aware of it while watching this video.

[@wegogiant]

Excellent video, Dan. This is a great way to explore human psychology through storytelling. Thanks for doing this one, it's very inspiring.

[@jeesook93]

I've never seen this show but after you talk about the intricacies of its storytelling, I went straight to netflix and binged it. It was so wonderful and made me tear up at parts. It's a great show!

[@theoutsiderhumanist8159]

You just single-handedly made me watch all of Tuca and Bertie and I'm so glad.

[@particlephysicssolut]

Honestly, Folding Ideas is the best thing to have happened to youtube.

[@lukasreiman6011]

I never even considered this a sex scene, there was too much story building for it to be just a sex scene. More often than not a sex scene is just there for filling while the actual story building happens before and after the actual scene, not during. Tuca & Bertie is an amazing show, I love it so much.

[@WatercatJane]

Thank you for this. I'm glad to find someone also found these scenes as impactful as I did

[@neutralnarwhal8184]

I honestly don't get sex scenes in shows/movies; they just make me uncomfortable. This one described actually sounds like it contributed to the overall narrative / characterization, though. Like, in a way where actually showing the sex scene is necessary and not gratuitous.

[@ChibiSilverWings]

Neutral Narwhal I would say there’s probably a few reasons for that, one could just be having come from a more sex-negative society/upbringing, but it can also be mixed with a healthy dose of mainstream media’s pretty wack ideas about women. A lot of sex scenes out there seem to only exist to show us a naked woman for sex appeal to a male gaze and usually it’s a very “conventionally attractive” person. Nothing is wrong with being pretty but it can really alienate us average folks from it feeling like a human experience and connecting. I think there are movies and shows and games etc that get stuff right and make sex feel like a more intimate narrative storytelling device, but it’s usually in stuff that’s not got as much “blockbuster” mainstream appeal. If you feel like exploring more things like that, I think kink and queer spaces have a lot of interesting media that portrays sex really differently.

[@Ackthrice]

@Yeet Skideet "Sex is a private matter" is a very culturally specific phenomenon not a universal human value.

[@azodin6236]

Are you 12?

[@otaku3OBSESSION]

Ackthrice agreed. However, because I, as an American in the US, I consider my peers quite culturally diverse. There are people who over share their sex life, people who don’t have one at all by choice, people who like keeping it private and other variations. For me, sex is something I would find awkward because it felt like I was expected to be a prude by others, when in reality I simply enjoyed it. And felt constantly shamed for liking it.

[@TheDragonCat99]

Ackthrice While that’s true, if a movie is made for an audience with a specific culture, it should take that culture into account when making decisions like this. We aren’t talking about foreign movies here.

[@DarthFennec]

I saw this show when it came out, and I thought it was just okay. I haven't seen it since, but every single time I've thought about it I've realized I like it a little more, and now it's one of my favorite things on Netflix. If this ever gets a second season I'm going to be so fucking happy. Barring that, if they make another show like this or Bojack that'll make me equally happy.

[@m.f.3347]

idk if you already know but it's been approved for a second season by adult swim

[@starbird3939]

Spoilers for Season 2 They do it again in S2 of Tuca and Bertie. Bertie gets dirty dreams of Pastry Pete. She feels ashamed, but talks about it with her therapist and eventually Speckle. She and Speckle discuss about their “forbidden” crushes and engage in sex with Speckle doing hair pulling (like Pete did), exciting Bertie. He asks if this is ok and continues after her consent. It is once again showing the budding healthy relationship they have.

[@mageofmiind]

This kind of in depth and thoughtful discussion makes me want to be a creator like a writer or a video maker. Dan had a big impact on me!

[@blokey8]

Thanks so much for spotlighting this show, I just watched it and it's terrific

[@awjallen]

This helped me love a show I already loved that bit more, thank u mr ideas

[@spenceduggs]

There's something so deliciously ironic about a show looking like a children's picture book while being one of the most intimate & detailed examinations of modern adulthood.

[@harlanhardway5955]

Nuanced and thoughtful, but with a hopeful and generally positive bent. I really appreciate how you manage to be critical, not letting media off the hook for it's miss-steps, but without being judgmental. Your analysis of 50 Shades was a much-needed one and this follow-up (though also great as a stand-alone) enhances it even more.

[@sophiaglagovich9821]

Explaining the reality that we do often only recognize our own boundaries after smacking into them and how that truth makes our interpersonal relationships difficult and sometimes fraught is an incredibly poignant insight. Thank you for this analysis.

[@blandinerebotton5728]

I just discovered your KZbin channel and .... Wahou! It so inspiring, an intersted watch! Thanks you so much for your work!

[@TheRepublicOfUngeria]

One can always hope that they will pick up Tuca and Bertie again in a few years. With Netflix shows, it seems like they have a model that allows shows to skip a year if they don't have the resources to pick it up immediately and to continue it on later. Tuca and Bertie might be that, but people have to watch it, it has to have an ongoing following, or it will not be made.

[@ShiraCheshire]

I checked the show out because of this video, and MAN now I'm sad it was cancelled so fast. I have bad anxiety, and I've never seen a show that understands it so well as Tuca and Bertie.

[@peteoconnor6388]

These might be my favorite videos to see pop up in my feed.

[@mixiekins]

Thank you, I knew there was something I loved about Tuca and Bertie, but just couldn't put it into words; you nailed it on this one.

[@QualityGentry]

This was the video that inspired me to watch tuca and bertie and it was so worth it. Thanks :3

[@Safaura]

Just, beautiful ❤️

[@skywise001]

I never thought to investigate this show. Thank you for pointing out what im missing.

[@cb-wi1cq]

Thank you for this. When I saw this pop up I realised I needed to Actually watch Birdie and Tuca. It's such a great show and I'm really glad I did. They handle pretty much every issue like this, tenderly and with humor. It really helps when most adult issues are portrayed as extremely serious struggles for which their only two answers. The perfect one and the absolute worst one. It's always more complicated and it comes down to communicating with your loved ones throughout the issue.

[@gafls3151]

Gosh I wish I'd heard this lecture when I was a teenager... Great analysis about boundaries.

[@saraha2518]

Gonna have to get my friend to watch this, she loves the show

[@scarlettdamante4945]

This was such a satisfying, well articulated, enlightening analysis. Loved every min and even had some decent introspection based on your comments! Nice job dude, thanks for uploading.

[@soma8756]

that bit about running into invisible boundaries sucked shit for me emotionally. i mean, you did an excellent job, but wow that was just a whole lot of hurt in me i didn’t know was there. i don’t know that i can honestly say thank you yet, as i’m still in the “things suck” part, but i can thank you for making me recognize all that stuff buried deep in me. i can’t build a better future for myself if i don’t know the material i’ve been working with.

[@alastairmotylinski5241]

I'm just watching this video for the first time after leaving a long-term relationship for very similar reasons to Bertie and Speckle. I didn't even know this show existed, but something about your analysis really affected me. There really isn't enough media portrayal of amicable breakups that come about, not through abuse or drama, but through simple divergence of need. Anyway, thanks for the video

[@LithiumThiefMusic]

I really want to check out Tuca and Bertie, it looked good. Also great work as always Dan!

[@elvellarambles9151]

Well, it's time to watch another upload from Dan O about a thing I didn't know existed until today, let's go! EDIT: and now it's time to sob.

[@AtomicSource11]

OMG My thoughts & feelings exactly

[@Anne_Onymous]

I just Liked because I saw Tuca & Bertie in the title lol

[@c0rdita]

So eloquently and beautifully put in words, thank you!

[@uriah8137]

i have no netflix so i was completely unaware of this show, but this video has convinced me to get netflix to watch it! it sounds incredible

[@siriuslyconfused1]

The ending of this gave me chills. This video is so thought provoking, thank you!

[@brianfoye5897]

Another killer video that, yet again, like divine intervention, hit me during a time which I didn’t even know I needed it to

[@hibiscusman]

Holy shit, I had no idea this show existed. Thank you for the introduction, Dan. This hits way closer to home than I expected.

[@webbot15]

Dude, your videos are always awesome and this is no exception.

[@hoodiegal]

Me: clicks on this video with some hesitation since I don't know the source material Dan: "I want to talk about Tuca and Birdie, the animated netflix show" Me: hmmmm idk if I wanna watch this Dan: "and how it uses a sex scene to do everything that 50 Shades wishes it could have done." Me, having just rewatched all of Dans videos about 50 Shades: LET'S FUCKING GOOO

[@francesbell9465]

Dan I love your insight. Learning these things can make us more successful adults.

[@DuelistRL]

I had an experience a few nights ago that was unpleasant. I realized where my boundaries were. Your video helped me realize what happened better than I thought. Great video as always haha