Tucker Carlson | The Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special Ep. 26

Tucker Carlson, Fox News host and author of "Ship of Fools", joins Ben to discuss the social impact of rapid technological advances, what role government should or shouldn't play in the economy, and how both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders are able to appeal to the same voters.
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[@greatmomentsofopera7170]

Tucker is the sort of person who could actually bridge the divide between left and right. Someone extremely bright who is not ideologically entrenched. What a pleasure it is listening to him.

[@WhatsCookingTime]

I think that's a lot of the reason his show is so popular. he usually tries to find consensus with his guests who come from every aspect of the political Spectrum. It's amazing to see how many people just don't want that which seems rather insane and quite frankly un American to me

[@greatmomentsofopera7170]

Jack Reagan I’ve mostly watched videos of him DESTROYING someone where there’s no consensus, as I guess they are the most popular on KZbin but that’s good to hear that he fosters that on his show. He just seems like such a reasonable, well informed guy in the long form interviews/debates I’ve seen of his.

[@TheErow44]

I totally agree, I think Tucker is a wonderful person who is as honest and balanced as it gets onTV today!! He should start his own show on KZbin, it would do amazing

[@madpup1962]

The problem is that the left refuses to listen to others with different opinions and they can't even disagree to disagree.

[@cf9844]

He's the worst, sorry. Total D-bag and has been since forever.

[@Josh-kt3mn]

Ben getting married: pastor: do you take this woman to be your lawfully wedded wife Ben: I do- *turns head* but first a message from our sponsor: we’re all gonna die

[@stretchopotomus2385]

@Dante S yeah, yeah, everybody knows that, but it was so funny!

[@jpatherton2415]

Lol... but he would prob do the message first, before revealing his "I do".

[@trilly88100]

Lol hes jewish fool

[@VVeremoose]

@@jpatherton2415 you have to subscribe to the daily wire to find out if he does

[@disputeone]

Rabbi

[@anthonyfalante1940]

I love tucker. For a rich guy he truly thinks about and cares about the average person. God bless him

[@jefflanton5617]

Is tucker rich?

[@anoneemous406]

@@jefflanton5617 Incredibly.

[@jefflanton5617]

@@anoneemous406 I just looked it up hes only worth 20mill. That's not crazy rich. He got 10mill for a book deal alone. But still good money for a news anchor.

[@anoneemous406]

@@jefflanton5617 Yeah he's definitely very successful.

[@HeraldOfTheChange]

@@jefflanton5617 But I heard sean Hannity gets like 30 mil a year. Shouldn't Tucker be getting a near similar paycheck?

[@TLBJRA1981]

I feel really embarrassed about how many incorrect assumptions and unwarranted judgements I had made about Tucker Carlson. I think I'm going to have to admit I have been heavily influenced by left wing media and the spell has been broken.

[@nilespeterclemens8328]

Way to fucking go you arrogant intelligent centrist asshole

[@ShawShank-kr9wq]

Niles Peter Clemens yeah I remember when I was a brain washed college kid smoking weed and watching the daily show and Colbert report and they would constantly attack him. This made me curious and i watched a few of his shows I realized his writers don’t provide him with as many comedic zingers but I realized a lot of what this weird looking bow tie guy was saying made a lot of sense. So in a way the left wing media helped me become a republican.

[@ironicgrammernazi5965]

Don’t be embarrassed he acts like an ass on TV for views. Same with Piers Morgan who was likable and level headed on here, but on the news I think I hate him more than anyone else... ever.

[@colemcleod941]

Welcome Majella, to the reasonable sane population. We, and I, welcome you to the real human race.

[@dennisbrown2106]

Niles Peter Clemens douchebag

[@NARUHOTEL]

When Tucker gives you the benefit of the doubt but his facial expression says you're a crazy person.

[@AccountInactive]

That look when he's listening to a leftist looks like he's contemplating the universe lol!

[@INTJerk]

I'm always amused by that look of bewilderment he gives. Worth more than 1,000 words.

[@chillproduction7142]

Gary Parker Like your comment, hard to come by someone else who uses “bewilderment” I say “ bewildered”... and people look at ME with bewilderment hahahaha

[@lineback3r542]

@@chillproduction7142 I am bewildered by the fact you are probably still laughing at your comment and here it is 40 minutes later.. hahaha I also like flabbergasted.

[@fauxjoshallen]

I'm perplexed that I have found people that use more of an interesting vocabulary than the 1st team All-Bro playbook for example: "Dude... he was like looking at homeboy like cha boy just grew another head." I salute you guys!

[@giovannibertaina2621]

30:10 Tucker: “Capitalism is the greatest economic system, but that doesn’t mean it’s a religion.” (Immediately after) Ben: *advertises product 😂

[@Dodi_Gago]

Giovanni Bertaina Great Catch 😂👌🏻

[@elidames6889]

If only one of them said "amen" at the end haha

[@Hexavielego]

😂😂😂

[@MalrickEQ2]

Join us Objectivists. Capitalism IS our religion; so everything is connected. The great chain guides us all.

[@nitsagamer3111]

@@MalrickEQ2 u dumb

[@ronaldvargas8815]

Tucker: “Captialism is the best economic system BUT that’s doesn’t mean it’s a religion” Ben: But-but...

[@JAlexandrG]

"The love of money is the root of all evil" - that is a Christian concept, not a Jewish one.

[@harrisonschneider8333]

@@JAlexandrG Its both

[@JAlexandrG]

@@harrisonschneider8333 No it's not

[@harrisonschneider8333]

@@JAlexandrG Then why do I agree with it

[@harrisonschneider8333]

@@JAlexandrG Then again, I am not representative of the general population.

[@mikerama4724]

I’m so glad to see them together to talk 👍

[@ravennite8319]

Yes! Two of my favorite men in one room! 🤗❤

[@PaulAllen8.30]

Two Nazis in the same room... #LiterallyHitler

[@Brent_Mosey]

I hear you.

[@Brent_Mosey]

Why? Why do you say that? Give me an educated answer.

[@PaulAllen8.30]

@@Brent_Mosey Tucker from Fox news, Fox news bad CNN good. Ben shapiro= nazi jew. Disagree with me and you are a nazi.

[@matthewvanwyhe1498]

I've never witnessed someone disagree with Shapiro so well.

[@lllool8404]

Watch Shapiro vs David Pakman debate.

[@blochstep349]

its wild, and I did not expect it at all tbh.

[@John-X]

He had a better time with Gavin Mcinnes kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2SogmmDpJVlqJY

[@disputeone]

Tucker has 20iq points on Ben.

[@Coopaloop-gg3kw]

Shapiro doest know how not to disagree

[@codyvandal2860]

I love how Tucker does a number of things that typical conservatives don't do: He acknowledges the existence of a ruling class He acknowledges his good fortune in being born into it He acknowledges that chance plays a tremendous role in life He challenges the conventional wisdom like "diversity is our strength" He challenges the elitist orientation in our country and a foreign policy designed to serve them not the American people

[@ShamanMcLamie]

What I like most is his humility. He doesn't act like he has all the answers, or is the smartest guy ever and should be listened to. He acknowledges where he is weak and where he is strong and plays to his strengths.

[@DereksYoutube]

Totally agree with your comments except "Diversity is our strength" was never conventional wisdom. People started campaigning under the banner of "diversity" in like, the mid 2000's. At least has been my life experience

[@codyvandal2860]

@@DereksKZbin Well they started saying "America is a nation of immigrants" in the 1970s and now look.

[@codyvandal2860]

@ChemicalFX really? Find me another Republican who will go on cable news and say "diversity is not our strength" because I haven't seen it. Rep. Steve King is maybe the closest thing.

[@stellarjayatkins4749]

Agree 100%. I love Tucker, one of the few I still respect. Odd, I would never have said that as little as 4 years ago.

[@robertj6182]

Tucker Carlson is the man. The sad part is that most left leaning “tolerant progressives” will not even listen to him because he is affiliated with Fox. The media is very divisive. It is amazing to see someone utterly dominate Ben Shapiro, who I do enjoy listening to, on an intellectual level seemingly effortlessly. Ben is sharp, but Tucker is absolutely a sage. This video was a pleasure to watch. I am also so pleased to see a few comments from people in this chat saying this was the first time they listened to Tucker Carlson speak, and they have found respect and wisdom in his words. United we stand. We have to remember that. Best wishes to all who read this.

[@GavinMichaels]

I'm happy to listen to Tucker, the problem is he is REALLLY bad about cherry picking his sources, using straw man arguments, and intentionally selecting easy political opponents. I appreciate that he generally does a good job of criticizing republicans and democrats where it matters, however he's not what I would call a "Great" host

[@drake1896]

Some thing I really can't stand is that he's quite reasonable, but because he's payed by Murdoch he can't actually support a social democrat

[@drake1896]

He's good as pointing out issues, but terrible about solving them, because exactly what you said. He's paid by fox

[@duncanramsay9262]

It's probably his life experiences. How old are they both now?

[@BiffBonswain]

Um, how did Tucker UTTERLY dominate Ben? 😂

[@joshhicks4019]

Amazing interview. I played this interview on my phone while I’m installing hardwood, and my customer was also listening to this. She said to me that this is the best type of interview where two people that agree/disagree and share their idea WITHOUT demeaning, and disrespecting each other. We both learned a lot from this. 👍

[@ianipoo]

I love listening to interviews like this while doing other things. I was listening to it while cooking. I also like listening to videos like this while playing open world games.

[@hayabusa5930]

Open world video games and practicing piano. That's how I burn through these lol Jordan Peterson's lectures are perfect fodder as well

[@MrHeroicDemon]

wholesome times haha

[@wb8147]

This is the difference between 'debate' and 'dialectic', unfortunately, the former has become the preferred method of discourse in our society.

[@jjeKKell]

Tucker pitched a "Larry King" long form interview concept to CNN when he worked there. They said no one will watch lol.

[@whycantibejohnyoung]

Tucker is the man! Great show Ben :)

[@timv1.082]

Frankly this is the dumbest that I’ve ever heard Tucker sound.

[@jvandegrifft]

John Young the

[@chinothepony]

Holy ()*#$@ Tucker knows. He knows what it's like to live in rural america. When I hit the dating site in our area, all the women are doctors and nurses. How can this guy be so rich and yet not be disconnected like the rest of them? And his view is everything I want. A more cohesive society who has laid the groundwork to be connected, like all of us having to learn English.

[@nemo2341000]

I know.. hes just so much more "Woke" then everyone else. I haven't heard anything similar to this in my life...

[@chinothepony]

The war today is less bullets. It is a war of words. And as a person who isn't a public mouthpiece, I do feel safer with people like Tucker around. Even Shapiro. It's so messed up today. I have values across the board but usually identify as a bit more liberal, but I am an artist first and I cannot for the life of me ever condone any side that is trying to control our expression. So now I watch conservatives who fight all the identity politics and the whackjob SJW stuff.

[@nemo2341000]

Yea, I'd have to say the political landscape is much better with both Ben Shapiro and Tucker carlson around. @@chinothepony

[@Reactionary_Harkonnen]

Dude were I work I see these hot Millennial women that are nurses & sh*t like that & are married to these old Boomers with money. It's crazy.

[@mandoesgameing8127]

Two of my favorite people talking I sat down with a fat ass blunt and watched the whole thing

[@WNN_PaddyPower]

I was wrong on Tucker.. seems much smarter than I gave him credit for... I would like to see him as the host of a JRE style long form conversation podcast.

[@tinaspringer651]

What would make you think Tucker wasn't an intelligent guy? I mean on his show he has to add in the entertainment factor with a little ridicule and smart assery but for the most part his views usually seem solid

[@black_squall]

Tucker is and always has been sharp as a tack. Some of his interview tactics are annoying but he's a smart cookie.

[@nerfnturf3332]

He said himself in Rubin's interview how he's jealous of Rubin's job. I'm sure one day he'll pursue something like that. Every extended interview I've seen of his is him at his best. You can tell he's constantly questioning even his own stances and genuinely eager to keep an open mind.

[@slappyhappy6192]

He did that already. The Adam carolla show a few days ago. It's on KZbin. 1:45 minutes I think.

[@johncollins3309]

@@nerfnturf3332 Tucker likely knows that making a paycheck doing online work is considerably more challenging.

[@mikexxxmilly]

People love to hate tucker simply because he’s on fox , but he’s an extremely intelligent and logical man.

[@bethanyatkinson6944]

He's not logical at all. He is passionately appealing to people's emotions, and if I tried to diagram his points, it would look like a jumbled mess... If you followed half of his ideas through to fruition, they would make the other half of his ideas an impossibility. He distracts from this by saying "I'm not a solutions guy"... I was taught if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem... Simply pointing out the problems (and refusing to discuss the outcomes of his ideas) doesn't get us anywhere.

[@michaelt.1161]

Agreed, I foolishly thought this video might help liberals understand our platform a little more and all I got was “YOU WANT ME TO LISTEN TO A FOX NEWS ANCHOR?!!!!”

[@MrUfcfan76]

Very true. Agree 100% he’s a rich intellectual American male.

[@iggypopisgod9]

Bethany Atkinson Would have to agree. He is full contradictions. I don’t understand being a conservative and being pro life ( which promotes more welfare families) and anti death penalty, which prolongs tax payer burdens. These are neither fiscally conservative.

[@mikexxxmilly]

I recently quit drinking, don’t judge my KZbin comment that thoroughly

[@David-fm6go]

35:46 - Tucker just drove a dagger threw the heart of neoliberal economics at the core of movement conservatism. This is battle of definitions. What Tucker has espoused throughout this interview is the traditionalist form of Conservatism that existed for 150 years. That of societal stability, family and holding back against disruptive forces. Ben is engaging in sort of the plaintiff call of movement conservatism against the reality that is modern America. The problem is that the decline of religion and family and society, these non-gov't bullworks against poverty and hopelessness are very things disrupted by "moving to ND to get a fracking job" and yet it is these very pillars that creative destruction has laid waste to and yet it is the decline of family/religion that provides the convenient scapegoat for movement conservatism to point to in defending creative destructive. This is fundamentally why Trump beat Cruz in 2016 for the primaries and Tucker pointed that out earlier in the clip. The simple fact of the matter is that movement conservatism as it has been constructed since the 1960's is an incoherent mess that is ripping itself apart from the inside. What has to come in its wake is a return to the kind of conservatism espoused by Burke in 1791 and espoused by Tucker here. Yes freedom is important, but it is only sustainable with societal stability and the anarchy and chaos that risks upending that needs to be held in check. That was what Burke's basic premise was behind his Reflections on the French Revolution and it was the basis for Conservatism the world over until die-hard classical liberalism was absorbed into the mix in opposition to the New Deal Coalition. Tucker keeps bailing Ben out throughout this interview and I wonder what this would have been like if Tucker was in a more challenging mindset.

[@FinrodFelagund5]

Good post, David. The modern conservative brand represented by the likes of Shapiro, Buckley, and Cato Institute can't die soon enough.

[@lutherblissett9070]

Shapiro comes from a culture that values financial interests above everything.

[@suzannesands7330]

He's bailing him out because it is a very intimate setting (unlike the set of Tucker's show, with a large crew and a live TV audience),, because he knows that Ben is vulnerable, and because Ben is not approaching the interview with an antagonistic tone. It would have been difficult for any kind person to be combative and skewer Ben in this setting.

[@lutherblissett9070]

@@SaraAngelyTRUMP You're a lunatic and a moron.

[@jeremyjacobite7630]

👌

[@slobiden.2593]

This isn’t MEME REVIEW?

[@alwaysabsentx]

You have 2 living memes talking to each other, what more do you want?

[@jolenewilliams1385]

NEXT MEME

[@owenbenjaminshapiro6285]

PewDiePie on the Sunday Special, the two of them discussing the culture wars and reviewing memes for an hour... that would break the internet for good

[@macedindu5002]

IT BROKE NEW GROUND

[@bottoson]

I give this meme a 'wait and see.' Poppy Harlow agrees.

[@frameshifted1999]

This is exactly the conversation Democrats and Republicans should be having and in this stage . When one will listen to another and respect.

[@LuckyTux]

TUCKER CARLSON ON THE BEN SHAPIRO SHOW? And we thought cohosting meme review was the best this week!

[@borisdragosani7584]

This is epic

[@JollyRoger183]

Ben had so much fun doing Meme 👏 Review 👏 Glad to see younger people becoming more exposed to some conservative views by pewdiepie and Ben. Some counter culture to the too progressive mainstream.

[@LuckyTux]

Actually, JollyRoger183, I’ve been watching Ben Shapiro for 6 months now; however, people like my younger brother and becoming exposed to our side much easier with it. It’s a wonderful thing, isn’t it?

[@JollyRoger183]

@@LuckyTux Absolutely, most of my friends/colleagues/siblings are ideologically in a far left bubble. I used to be there but got exposed to different thoughts and now am much more balanced. Was great to see where Ben and Tucker differed as well.

[@boobio1]

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/192013846

[@willum321]

I think Ben missed his calling as an insurance salesman

[@yurtttttt96]

willum321 I mean he probably knows insurance law like that back of his hand too.

[@alexmercer936]

willum321 well he’s an eternal merchant as are the rest of his ilk

[@vincent109]

Tucker is more authentic and more connected with average working and middle class Americans. Ben is more ideological and tends to be elitist.

[@stephenp6411]

My thoughts exactly.

[@conorclimo8534]

Benny Boy is a Israeli Zionist Shillmaster.

[@tubesurfer1447]

I continually question if Ben Shapiro is one of the most elaborate, long-game chess pieces our enemy ever put on the board. Or is he actually on the logic and free people team.

[@conorclimo8534]

@@tubesurfer1447 I think he is more of the former. Fuck Ben "Capitalism Over Populism" Shapiro.

[@conorclimo8534]

@@Shamino1 Well I've never had much experience, however, Shapiro is a Zionist Shillmaster and Israeli Apologist. There are no """winners""" in The American Right or Left.

[@Jc-qh2yz]

One of the best and most educational conversations i have ever heard. Thank you. Two people I absolutely respect.

[@vancouveruzbekistan5350]

TUCKER LOVES, SUPPORTS & looks up to the NAZI russian GENOCIDERS OF THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE SO ALL OF YOU COMMENTERS HERE DO TOO! HOW VERY SMART OF YOU!

[@danielle228512]

I miss Tucker’s confused “wtf” face

[@AdoreYouInAshXI]

It's because he wasn't listing to some pleb spouting off stuff that a 6th grader would call "bullshit" on, like he is on his show most of the time.

[@Adam-tp8py]

He made it a few times in this one, but the camera was on his profile.

[@DEE-Reece22]

@@Adam-tp8py yes like the beginning after that damn ad lol

[@HellRobot89]

LMFAO, That's hilarious. You get that alot this is refreshing to see :D

[@gynandromorphiliacoprophag1783]

Well you did get that laugh

[@Hugo4104]

tucker always does a good job in making a lot of sense

[@AndresLopez-bz7bs]

Hahaha yeah right have you seen his interviews? Have you heard what he said about Iraq people?

[@Adam-tp8py]

@@AndresLopez-bz7bs I shall cherry pick a single instance that I have willfully misunderstood in order to completely tarnish the character of someone I disagree with because...reasons.

[@AndresLopez-bz7bs]

@@Adam-tp8py i don't know he is very funny atleast

[@loyalsausages]

Tucker Carlson, a man who actually gives a damn about you and your family. He goes beyond idealistic theory to the pragmatic heart of politics, economics, government. Lower taxes and the ability to profit from your own ideas and entrepreneurialism? Sure! But a stable country that actually has a middle class is just as important.

[@margaretmojica8190]

The middle class is to goose that lays the golden eggs. The Dark Ages had no middle class, only the lord and lady in the castle and the serf plowing the field. Everything was at a standstill economically and 90% of the population was barely surviving at near starvation levels.

[@Changetheling]

It is true that on the pursuit of economic freedom, many of us have neglected the importance of the middle-class as a country's backbone across the globe.

[@gildagoncalves9170]

Two great men having real important discussions. We need more of this.

[@drake1896]

Ben Shapiro is not a great man

[@vancouveruzbekistan5350]

TUCKER LOVES, SUPPORTS & looks up to the NAZI russian GENOCIDERS OF THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE SO ALL OF YOU COMMENTERS HERE DO TOO! HOW VERY SMART OF YOU!

[@griffinmathers929]

I have begun to agree with you. His absolute brattiness about the "Red Wave" that did not happen in 2022 made me ... the arrogance! The unwillingness to say "I was wrong". I'm not sure sure Ben believes Ben can ever be wrong. My IQ is high, and my grades were crap. My brother's IQ should cause him to be literally fed like a baby at age 53. Ben's insistence on 1- " I am incapable of lying or doing anything wrong because I wear a yarmulke" and 2- "my sky high IQ makes me the smartest man in any room!" IQ is garbage. Be a human. The flawed ones who know they're flawed? Like Tucker! That's humility and it's very attractive. I stop listening when Ben whines about the greatest gift in his life - his children. I watched my kind, loving, sister fight for the life of her daughter every day. Since the loss of her only child, she's a shell of her former loving, funny, smart and kind self. It's beyond disgusting to complain about children "waking me up constantly". At least your kids are alive to annoy you, Ben.

[@williamdavis9562]

@@drake1896 Most have noticed this, especially after his recent emotional meltdown where apparently facts weren't as important as his feelings.

[@ErikKislikChessSuccess]

Finally, we have Tucker! His views really are a breath of fresh air

[@bicboi46]

True, except for climate change however.

[@bobcruz2826]

Tucker is more to the left than Ben.

[@tinaspringer651]

@@bicboi46 he doesn't actually say he doesn't he doesn't believe in climate change. He just doesn't agree with the Paris accord and that we shouldn't stop asking questions which I agree with him on

[@trock7542]

I would rather die in a ruined Venus like world than give the government the responsibility to “save us” cuz news flash they won’t. Either we as individuals make a difference exercising our freedoms to combat climate change or we will be destroyed by our collective selves.

[@ericbillion3731]

Breath of fresh air? Every time I see these guy he always looks steamed. If anything his a heater with hot air.

[@KurNorock]

Man.. Tucker keeps saying "I want people making $80k to $90k a year to live how they want." and I'm over here like "it sure would be nice to make $45k a year..."

[@KamikazKid]

@Dave Dez cops making 60k, ha don't make me laugh my local police makes 48k. It's not always a matter of having a shit job, it's partially where you live as well. Some places just have shit wages because there isn't a large population to support higher wages, but on the the bright side the taxes & property are pretty cheap as well. Personally I'd rather have my shit wages than move to some shitty big city where I'd make more, but pay more for property or renting.

[@benjaminburns4412]

@Dave Dez seems like all the blue haired fat 3rd gender people are all raised in cities

[@theroachden6195]

@@KamikazKid cops in most areas in CA start at 60k/yr.

[@wesleyaustin6119]

What area is that?

[@wesleyaustin6119]

According to Rasmussan, only like 7 states have average salaries above 40000. Sure that is probably including part time jobs for student, but still.

[@AvRaTchET]

Holy shit...did I just realize Ben is an ideologue??? Tucker is the man!!

[@cdressel53191]

All Jews, for the most part, are ideologues. You can normally place them in to 1 of 2 camps. Either NeoCon Zionist, or communist. Some may stray from either camp, but not usually.

[@CRR60mg]

The reason you saw it is because of you saw them side by side ... Ben is not on Ultra side hence you're not necessarily noticing his position right away. Tucker next to him contrasted that difference ...

[@errands8253]

he's a neocon Zionist and always has been.

[@travisheinsohn4203]

Ben has a belief system and defined political position but is in no way an ideologue. He clearly asks Tucker questions in a polite and engaging manner to more fully hear his viewpoint despite at certain points not agreeing with it. An ideologue is incapable of hearing out another person's position let alone draw the individual along in a way that encourages discourse and critical thought.

[@sanniepstein4835]

Corey--Thanks for propping up the image of conservatives as racist bigots. Watch Ben take on the left, and think of how many valuable allies are driven away by people like you.

[@robindew9072]

Tucker is so very well spoken and very knowledgeable. Tucker just speaks true Facts.

[@puertoricanlove9]

OMG! Ive been waiting for Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro to have a nice little sit down for ever!! Love you guys!

[@newvocabulary]

Was a great interview! Scott Adams was also very good. Benji is on a roll.

[@ASalvaro]

yup it was great!

[@stevenaguilera9202]

John Duncan, his full name is Benji ?

[@newvocabulary]

@@stevenaguilera9202, Benjamin, shortened to Benji.

[@tonic9436]

What is so great is watching people in the political sphere debate calmly and intellectually. I am sick of the name calling and trash politics of today. I can agree to disagree but I can't be called slanderous things. Its wrong and unproductive.

[@alexbaucom5432]

Tucker Carlson taught me the #1 rule of debate. Common sense. You have to be able to use simple basic universal understandings and apply them to real life.

[@jackhames9518]

Alex Baucom but this isn’t a debate

[@CuriosityasaCompass]

This is absolutely excellent. A great conversation!!!

[@_nom_]

A host stating political bias... This is propaganda my friend.

[@Seanrobertsbjj]

@Ayush Shah this wasn't really a debate.

[@Seanrobertsbjj]

@Ayush Shah I watched the entire video. They agree on most things. Plus Ben is just asking questions and listening to his views for the most part.

[@kingshuk4122]

I am listening to this for the n th time..I am an Indian and never been to USA..Somehow Tucker Carlson to me is “not so old wise man”..most of what he says is wisdom and common sense..

[@JG-hz5kh]

14:22 “I’m an elite too, I went to Harvard Law School and we do well”. Thanks Ben for getting that in there.

[@mikimiyazaki]

14:21

[@cashdeane]

😂

[@GSauce20]

Also, his wife is a doctor LOL

[@lionsden5123]

That was def kinda funny, but it also fell into a general point he was making regarding the overall perception society has on people like him.

[@doriancrayy7707]

Humblebrag

[@cmw3737]

Capitalism is not a religion. Thank you Tucker Carlson. Someone on the right who recognises that capitalism is the best base for society and does a better job than alternatives but isn't perfect. Who recognises that the goal is stable families, freedom and progress, not maximising profits.

[@justair44]

Many on the right recognize a lot of the same problems that the left do.. The problem? The left stopped listening to those that have different viewpoints.

[@Frontigenics]

Kind of a strawman... Capitalism is not a religion... but the "problems of capitalism" Tucker thinks people are ignoring, are actually the result of the US flirting with Socialism and Federal Programs for the last 100 years. We're closer to Socialism than Capitalism in the US right now.

[@Frontigenics]

@Proletariat "No Frontigenics, I disagree, we have a huge problem with Capitalism exploiting the weaknesses in our government and social structure" It can only exploit what government has control over. If the US never started with the socialism-flirting and centralized programs in the first place... there would be nobody to pay off and exploit (or it would, at the least, be way too many people and too complex). Every problem you're talking about can be traced back to people trading a little bit of freedom for safety over the years... and then getting screwed down the road. Because "safety" or "fairness" always means power/control will be consolidated at some point. This is not "Capitalism" at all. It's Socialism. The US is in trouble because it's be SOCIALIZING for the last 100 years, like I was saying before. We have a centralized-currency... the average amount of taxation is 40%-50%... we have property tax... ect. Go read the 10 Pillars of Communism and then get back to me about the US being so "Capitalist". Saying "capitalism is the problem" is like saying "the color of lunch is 17"... it's not even in the ball-park of a thought. It's LEFTIST propaganda.

[@satixaxr4385]

CMW agree specially when Chrony capitalism comes into play... chrony capitalism is the furthest thing from capitalism.. but there’s no accurate way of regulating chrony capitalism and capitalism ... capitalism still works better than any other economic structure though

[@acutecloudd7970]

Well if conservatives would stop shutting down speech against capitalism we might have better offers. But you people aren't open to conversation on those topics, just demonizing and calling anyone who disagrees a communist.

[@robertkelly3186]

Wow! I really like Tucker...I had no idea.

[@deladonics]

For real. What the hell is happening? I used to watch the Daily Show and agree with it.

[@robertkelly3186]

@@deladonics Maybe we're just getting old and angry haha!

[@Spills51]

There is a bunch of interviews Tucker has done in the last couple weeks for his book. The Ruben Report, Politicon, that dude from LoveLine lol...Adam something. When Tucker isnt under the Banner of his job he opens up a lot and makes a lot of sense. He really shines his agendas through as...I want America to do better. ALL PEOPLE. I wrote this because before this recent push he made I was always on the fence about him. Not anymore regardless if I agree or not. \ In other words...HE IS A GOOD DUDE.

[@MrNinjaone1]

@@Spills51 he said he wants to make laws/policies in favor of "normal people", i have no idea who these people are and also fuck the abnormal ?

[@lynnettespolitics9656]

Robert Kelly Right? Until about a year ago when I learned about KZbin news clips I just knew him as a fox guy, now I can't go to bed till I've heard a clip from his show that night!

[@geniusatwork12]

Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro are 2 of my most favorite people on this planet right now. I wish more people could be like them.

[@jmoo876]

This is how people who disagree on ideas should speak with each other. Take notes liberals.

[@alexj.6891]

Stupidity Kills Offer a rebuttal or support for your statements, otherwise you come across as an unintelligent person who clearly doesn’t have a fully formed idea and is just responding purely off emotions. Clearly you are the liberal one, irregardless of how you choose to view yourself and don’t have an understanding of conservatism or logic

[@alexj.6891]

Stupidity Kills Your response reinforces my statement even more. I never tried to make you see anything in my view, merely stated my opinion, as how everyone conveys their personal thoughts as we aren’t all knowing beings who’s words are law, and offered advice on how I believe an intelligent person should substantiate their claims. You internalized that as someone being controlling and over opinionated as a result of your ego, and I’m guessing the fact that I constructed my statement in a way not suitable for your given comprehension level. You further prove my second statement by responding with a pathetic excuse for an insult attempting to chastise me for the very action in which you participated in yourself. Thus supporting my argument that you do not operate in the realms of fact or logic, as the general conservative would, but in emotions and your lesser instinct to insult one with who disagrees with you instead of provided a well explained and supported rebuttal, as the general liberal would. I can understand by your statements that a majority of what I said while inevitably go over your head, and that is not necessarily your fault, just a product of your IQ level and you cannot convince someone of something in which they cannot understand. But like they discussed in this interview IQ is not the end all be all of a person merely an immutable characteristic in which they are born with. Therefor I wish that you would not take my comments as an insult or attack on your person, merely as a person, of an evidentially higher IQ at, that voicing their opinion and genuinely comprehend that and maybe it would change your outlook somewhat in the slightest and grow as a person and intellectual from that. Also maybe change your name to something a little less self deprecatingly ironic.

[@alexj.6891]

Stupidity Kills Again not even a argument or idea this time, but like I said you can only communicate and think at the level your IQ permits. I know for you those statements must be hard and taxing for you to understand but for people of substantial IQ that is just voicing a simple thought and opinion. Atlas you are correct for there is no way to properly communicate our thoughts for it seems you are still at the level in which most of us evolve from after childhood.

[@alexj.6891]

Stupidity Kills I did understand your name hence why I told you you should pick a less self deprecatingly ironic one. You clearly didn’t read, or I presume more accurately, didn’t understand the words I wrote. If you want to have a name as such you really should be more self aware or increase your intellect for you come across as the exact person which you seem to be above. I can only tell your intelligence based off of the words in which you choose to communicate, yet those seem to be that of the below average 12 year old. I’m not saying you should be an ingenious wordsmith but don’t say whatever phrase your hurt ego first tells you to say, for they mean nothing without explanation or evidence. For someone who apparently things stupidity kills you have no awareness for you own abilities. But that is the blight of the stupid for they are ignorant of their own inadequacies. I know most of the words that I communicate with are above your comprehension but maybe use a dictionary if your struggling so much, hell you might even learn something and finally work on that horrendous intelligence of your.

[@alexj.6891]

Stupidity Kills your comments are actually quite amusing to me for they are showing how someone of your IQ thinks and how your percideved intelligence actually holds you back from ever achieving a higher one. Ignorance is bliss but doesn’t allow you to ever achieve more. I am know hypocrite for I know I am not close to the most intelligent and there are vast amounts more then me who are and there always will be, but you have to have a high enough IQ to start with before you can realize in fact how stupid you really are. Unfortunately for you don’t seem to have met that threshold, hence are doomed to ever remain in a the utter mediocrity that is your very existence. It saddens me that not only are there people like you, but an ever increasing amount who it seems will soon outnumber the rest of us. You can take solace in the fact that it is not the people like you who only think and communicate in basic thoughts and sentences to the fact that will suffer, but everyone else around you who must deal and live with those who are stunted to forever to have cognizance of a child.

[@alfredlear4141]

Wtf A sane conversation on KZbin? Interesting, intelligent and thought provoking? Must be banned before too many people watch it...

[@luv2dance866]

Alf ....agreed 100% -- GREAT & thoroughly enjoyed.

[@JoMama123451234]

Don't worry. KZbin will demonotize and delist it before it reaches those it needs to. Thought provoking conversations like this are too much to handle for the mob mentality that most succumb to.

[@saqibsheikh2790]

I wish more conservatives were skeptical of big business and less war-hungry like Tucker.

[@CP-os1pc]

I’m surrounded by conservatives and am one I am skeptical of big business, a nanny government and politicians in general as are most of all my conservative friends

[@saqibsheikh2790]

There will always be terrorism. But it doesn't justify all these interventionist wars.

[@saqibsheikh2790]

It starts out as preventing terrorism and then leads to decades long occupations because so many Americans are gullible enough to believe it. There are most cost effective ways to prevent terrorism than sending thousands of soldiers across the world and making the defense industry super rich.

[@josejaquez4100]

I am left wing and I think the left and right have a lot of common goals and beliefs and I think that Democrats and Republicans are not really representative of their constituents, it seems to me that their goal is for the left and right to hate each other so they can keep us distracted from working towards achieving our common goals.

[@yannospapakias830]

the conservatives that are not skeptical of big business are not conservatives they are libertarians

[@LifeOutward]

Tucker is far less "far right" than his opponents would have us believe. Shockingly moderate - how refreshing.

[@bhasty1]

Absolutely love Tucker. My one and only reason for watching fox news.

[@TheDoctorOfMDMA]

Levin?

[@hopeful5672]

so you're saying you don't watch "the Five"?

[@KyleEHanophy]

@@hopeful5672 Oh god, no! I mean, it's better than the Daily Show, but that's not saying much.

[@snake-eyes8241]

Barry Hasty, same here! Tucker's the only person in msm I watch! For a laughs, I check out the Greg Gutfeld Show, but not really for political commentary.

[@tinaspringer651]

Not a Juan fan? lmao

[@williamcharleson2051]

I love Tucker. He is not perfect but I'm glad he's on our side fighting the good fight

[@alexmercer936]

Dac Tucker lol most of us don’t like trump

[@astzfat3319]

BS"D "our side" meaning humanity. Absolutely. Remarkably refereshing! Breath of fresh air!

[@Pickle-Rick365]

@Dac Tucker Fuck Trump, Fuck Hillary, Fuck you, and last but not least Fuck me. I hope the entire human Race Rots in Fucking Hell. If the Higher powers decided to nuke all major cities, it would be a blessing. Thank God everyone dies someday, I can't wait to fucking KMS. Goddamn I FUCKING LOVE THIS FUCKING GODDAMN UNIVERSE. SO MUCH GODDAMN LOVE.

[@bigblueassbaby9074]

Concord Reprisal you good bud?

[@zoisantonopoulos7999]

@@bigblueassbaby9074 He is on to something , literally he must be a c head.

[@willbyrd]

The difference between Ben and Tucker is that Tucker holds true deep convictions about his political beliefs. He doesn't regurgitate Conservative think tank idealities. Tucker has great arguments for regulation on technology for the betterment of society. I really enjoyed this interview.

[@RyanJones-bh2bo]

he said he is results based not based on politics or convictions necessarily. i really enjoy hearing tucker as well.

[@Doriamo]

I think you nailed it William! Both are intelligent but Tucker seems more passionate and capable of thinking on his own.

[@cptoscar]

Yeah, tucker is so honest in his convictions and really relates to us, Ben can learn a little bit of this from Tucker. Sometimes I get the feeling that Tucker maybe is more honest to himself and to us than Ben is. That about Ben being elitist from time to time is also very true. Harvard, violin, wife is a doctor, he has done perfectly good all his life. Tucker knows us and "feels our pain".

[@cptoscar]

Trump has done good by me as a President, but damn..... Imagine President Carlsen

[@arturowurth4723]

@@cptoscar Ben carson was super poor and and then he become to the elite. to be part of the elite is a decision. to be or stay poor is your decision.

[@whiskeyweekly7533]

Wow, my respect for Tucker Carlson just went way way up. I wish all discussions could be this way.

Tucker must be a great dad. Godspeed Tucker. 🙏🏻

[@racerucki9201]

We need pewdiepie in one of the next sunday specials, he can talk about his experience with the media and on youtube

[@sebastianknott3804]

Does Pewds do reviews? I wonder how the personalities would clash? It could be brilliant!

[@sebastianknott3804]

@@joshualong7212 Agreed

[@bharathrkumar6042]

Really ? He's like apolitical. Probably not interested in it also. I don't think he's the sort of person for a long form interview.

[@AlexWilliams-yd4dv]

I'm doubtful but a man can dream

[@sonnyfinch1625]

@@bharathrkumar6042 hes done serious ones before on his channel!

[@derekd.4156]

Not gonna lie, tucker has impressed me

[@lockedin6699]

He shows even though he has particular beliefs, he can make exceptions based on situations. He's not ridged and fixed in his ways, so to speak.

[@garethhancock8525]

I'm glad you stated your not gonna lie

[@travistarp7466]

he's more 'liberal' than i thought, not a bad thing and has a interesting perspective.

[@potatoes5829]

Tucker carlson is the face of most conservatives (but smarter than the average conservative)

[@drake1896]

@@travistarp7466 sounds like he'd be a Bernie bro if he wasn't rich and payed by murdoch

[@jeffreysmith5230]

Man I wish Tucker did some kind of speaker tour. It's crazy how right TC would turn out to be.

[@fatimatejada122]

I'm 100% peruvian and I support Trump, although people call me racist, misoginist, and xenophobe for that reason, I'm proud of being part of the right and the republican movement. Sorry if my grammar is incorrect...

[@Plasma250]

Excellent English! Thank you for your courage and engagement despite the social backlash you've received.

[@ph1438]

Who cares what people say? Ignore them and you take their power away... They are fools...

[@ITSFRICKENADAM]

The left dont even know what those words mean anymore. They're NPCs and just say the same shit over and over because that's what they're told to say.

[@brandonwong8169]

Cuz if you don't support trump u go back to Peru

[@fatimatejada122]

@@brandonwong8169 i live in Peru, i'm 15 years old 😂

[@widowsson8192]

Ben sounds and seems startled by Tucker's intellect, almost intimidated.,

[@Dylan-hc2lu]

@brett warren cant cuck the tuck

[@GreatLakesLogger]

Would've scared the tar outa me when he did his sudden loud laugh tho

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture6080]

new headline "ben shapiro PWNED for FACTS and LOGIC by right wing news anchor"

[@ddlc_monika]

Ben reads Tuckers implications and knows he's part of the problem. Tucker even had a line quite exposing that got glossed over.

[@TheBlackProject13]

because he is

[@orionizaqt]

"Leave your parents graves, and the town you grew up in to move to some soulless city and become a cog" that actually made me cry. One of the saddest things I've ever heard someone say actually.

[@morganreese7381]

Me too because I'm watching this in a city where I have no connection, no family and few friends, because I'm not from here. I have a good job, but no guarantee it will last and I'm lonely. I'm sad.

[@jsong8282]

Victor Davis Hanson has said some similar things - we can’t just expect 50 year old (or less) former auto workers or coal miners to learn to code python and move to D.C. or go work in the Dakota oil fields....can we? We are really losing local community to globalization. Everything is run by the corporations

[@gingerbill128]

agreed . that's what i don't get with Ben , they keep using Biology as an argument , they keep using values and the structure of families as an argument. Then they say " who cares just leave the pack and abandon everything and start again". That's easier though still hard for someone in there 20's starting there journey but just nonsense to say that to older people. How can there be a society if the answer is abandon the society you are in and just leave and start again.

[@ernestoporras-polo5872]

I left my country to come here, what is wrong with moving? Man up and adapt. Tucker is a commie, no different that AOC and Bernie Sanders, can’t stand him.

[@ernestoporras-polo5872]

dj denton you are right, they keep complaining about millennials saying they are snowflakes, but they behave the same, whining and whining all the time, blaming the whole world for their failures.

[@michael123cody5]

These 2 guys are really good at what they do. I enjoy listening to people who speak facts and know what they are talking about.

[@benjaminspeaks1985]

When you start thinking you're God, you will fall from great heights. -Tucker (paraphrase) Wow. So true.

[@AndresLopez-bz7bs]

He is shit

[@AndresLopez-bz7bs]

@Bruce Jenner says the person who's name is "Bruce Jenner" hahahaha

[@AndresLopez-bz7bs]

@Bruce Jenner i don't care what your values are or if you're black chinese or white thrash usa is a madhouse

[@justiceforall658]

@Andres Lopez go back to Mexico

[@dontreadmyprofilepicture6080]

@@gabe3527 y?

[@3_hustles14]

Wow great interview my husband is a trucker we have been married for 22 years and I've been a housewife because my hubby busts his ass!! Never have received assistance and we started as teenagers. Thank you Tucker for speaking for families such as ours!!👊

[@Victor-zw8tb]

💪💪💪

[@famousace4652]

And today I learned you can use emojis on KZbin

[@M49-x9k]

I agree my husband busts hiss ass off at work, and I am very privileged to stay at home look after the kids. I love my life.

[@RoyalProtectorate]

Truckers make a ton

[@RoyalProtectorate]

@Proletariat you do know AI is limited in a very similar way to a calculator. Have you ever studied the Numberless theorems? They are a excellent explanation to why AI will never surpass human consciousness and ingenuity.

[@AdoreYouInAshXI]

29:04 the way Tucker answers this question, with such confidence and common sense... I had to stand my fat, truck driving ass up out of my computer chair and clap.

[@mikimiyazaki]

29:05

[@lionsden5123]

36:33 It’s so great how Ben asked tucker a question whose answer you could tell he was very passionate about, and Ben let him have at it

[@UmbraPsi]

I think Tucker needs to give himself just a little bit more credit when it comes to him being an intellectual, the best and greatest of intellectuals were observers like him

[@flaria4011]

He’s too humble, he’s more intellectual than most high profile conservatives.

[@4zafinc]

He was personally chosen by Hitchens to be one of the authors of a books they published where intellects from both wings contributed. Hitch dint want him to go to TV though. Thought he could comtribute more in writing than being talking head. Wonder if he'd change his stance on that today

[@crimson_rage]

Tucker might not think of himself as an intellectual, but he has wisdom that surpasses many subjects when it comes to the lives of the average person. Which is surprising considering he is upper class. He's right. If we do not figure out what happens after the technological advances we're going to experience in the next decade or two, millions will be out of work. Some people won't have the aptitude necessary to adapt to higher IQ work and will suffer unless we figure out how to creatively deal with it. If we don't, it will be a dark chapter in America's history.

[@j.sarnak1391]

R E Ð Ð A W N , and that my friend is "the point", anyone can take Ben's position, as long as you were born wealthy. Ben had an investment banker managing his portfolio from birth. It is so easy for him to say that the average American just has to figure it out. You need to recognize that a young man who is not born with wealth, has to have a job first, he does not have 3 different income streams, so that he can take 2 or 3 years to decide what his next choice will be, it's a little different when he has to feed his family and put a roof over their head. Do we want "all" of our young people to demand socialism and watch our country be destroyed in 30 years?? I will be dead so I don't care for myself. I do care for my family and my country. Young people can't fall for the Socialist lie, but they can force politicians to have real discussions about issues, Good Luck

[@morgangrey4020]

I believe a lot of the problems in that area start in the schools and how or what they teach.

[@lindalinda2158]

Maxx Madd you are more correct then your comment expressed! Thank you!😇

[@markscruggs8346]

We need pro-IQ growth policies if we are to maintain our current level of advancement in career technicality and professional reliance on cognitive ability. Without significant IQ boosts, a larger and larger percentage of the population will be unable to survive in the market. The question is what are the policies that could possibly have the desired effect of boosted average intelligence. I would argue for the abolition of subsidization poor, low IQ people to have children (aka welfare) and per child tax benefits directly related to the IQ of the couple producing the child.

[@nate_d376]

R E Ð Ð A W N, agreed. Age bequests wisdom. I remember tucker with a bow tie on crossfire many years ago, he has changed, as do we all. He was on point here, ben was dragging a## to be honest. The "ruling class" has historically " taken care" of the rest of the people under them, and some good rulers have balanced economics well in the past (obviously, I am only speaking in very broad terms here). The only way societies were built was through some form of feudalism, or the king protecting farmers, who in turn paid taxes, for that protection. In many ways a two sided coin, because if the farmers couldn't survive and grow food, niether could the king (again, broad ideas here). The crux of the matter tonight, is that the ruling class of today, are ONLY interested in self aggrandizement, in all it's forms, and treat all others as only a means to better themselves, and not caring about the other 99% ( for lack of a better term) that have helped move their business or investments etc... into profitability. Case in point, the Uber example. Don't call them employees, take advantage of their labor, make governments pay for health care, food stamps, etc... Basic business theory, taught today, is that employee's are only a way to multiply (leverage) time for lower amounts of money, and no consideration given to them as humans. How do you think we ended up with 6 year olds selling newspapers on the street corners? The loss of humanity. Evolutionary theory applied to all aspects of life ( not here to debate evolution) and was even applied to our law at Harvard Law in the 1890's (could be off a little bit there, but close enough. it's where the living breathing document view came from). Those below us are less than us, was a common belief, and in many ways, still is (think: affirmative action). As far as technology goes, we are facing a disaster, in what many call a "post scarcity" society. Really only in terms of labor, as robots, and A.I. increase in the work force. It really matters when you think of number of fields affected at the same time, which could be a great number of careers and jobs across the board. I always think of Rush and his buggy whip analogy, but it doesn't hold up here, as that was a narrow field to begin with, and manual labor was still needed, even in leather working. The main difference here is the complete upheaval of the workforce. And another thing, remember, 100 IQ = average, and IQ falls on a bell curve, meaning nearly half of all people are under 100, and might not be capable of high tech work that requires schooling and tech training. A lot of food for thought. God help us all!

[@necessarythoughts3605]

Tucker Carlson is /Our Guy/

[@gsm7313]

Lolol if Tucker was real he wouldn't have a prime time Fox show

[@gsm7313]

CONTROLLED OPPOSITION

[@MUFFINHEAD1985]

Blood and soil

[@nyrangers731]

he's not controlled opposition, but he can't come out and say everything on his mind or he'd lose his platform. Completely understandable.

[@gunnarkoger2259]

Ihateyou Googgle slow your roll buddy, we don’t support the shilling for Israel but we don’t hate Jews ok

[@johnyork5138]

America loves you TUCKER.

[@mythrall]

I love how you two could disagree with each other but still agree on disagreeing without spitting the dummy and swearing at each other.

[@Tetrastructural]

Civil discussions help you think for yourself while televised staged attacks aim to manipulate you into joining one side.

[@323azteca]

True, but you can tell its a little harder for Tucker to hear disagreements from another brilliant mind. Good interview though.

[@r.z.x.p2594]

God I wish Tucker was the next president

[@kronniichiwa9909]

Ben Saphiro would do better. But in 2024

[@CommanderLongJohn]

@@kronniichiwa9909 No, he would not. Shapiro would be WAY out of his depth. He'd be on an international political stage with world leaders rather than a college campus shooting down idiotic young brainwashed socialists. Shapiro is just a Republitard hypocrite who would also lob us into a massive war to serve ISRAELI INTERESTS within the first year or two of his term as well.

[@nickabel8279]

The real answer is mike rowe with these 2 on his cabinet

[@AbsurdRedLight]

@@kronniichiwa9909 you must want to go to war for Israel

[@KevinBrownn]

nick abel you hit the nail on the head with that one

[@mparker548]

It took me 5 minutes of different search variations to find this

[@aintnuthinbutathang1646]

Lol same

[@Niko0902]

This is done on purpose.

[@josejaquez4100]

I'm still looking for an appearance Shapiro made on Tucker Carlson's show where Carlson wrecked Shapiro mercilessly.

[@derekd.4156]

I looked up tucker Carleson Ben Shapiro and had to scroll down vigorously to find this 😂

[@myka4337]

Michael Parker same, this was not easy to find which is odd since it has 1M views

[@jonahsanderson9048]

Tucker is so we’ll spoken!! He’s also so expressive in his body language. I’ve never seen an interview like this.

[@tacticaltemplar875]

I gotta say- I've never seen the Daily Wire comment section so damn red-pilled!

[@alexmercer936]

Ryan Redmond can’t Cuck the Tuck. He brings out the best.

[@patrikll2727]

Ben represents the smug elitist part of the republican party. Tucker on the other hand seems to have more empathy for the average american like Trump. Ben hates tariffs because it may effect the stock market shortterm. The thing he don't see it from the bluecollor perspective. American manufacturing has been stagnating for years, and trump tries to to something about. At least he wants them to have a leveling playing field and address unfair trade agreements.

[@michaellevitas6112]

MakeSwedenSaneAgain Tariffs can address can unfair trade practices that for example china commits but is incredibly risky and can do far more damage and won’t bring bring back jobs. Ben is being realistic while Trump is exploiting people’s emotions

[@benfrankog6111]

@Kostas anagno Brilliantly stated.

[@alexocean9196]

You may call ben an ideology, however, those tariffs that you speak off, it was tariffs that caused the great depression. Unemployment was decreasing and then jumped to doublie digits when the smoothally tariff act was introduced (miss spelled the name, my apologies, its v late) Rather than trying to protect domestic industries from better competitors, we should make domestic industries better than the foreign competitors. This can be done at home by cutting taxes, (and cutting subsidies too), cutting regulation, making free trade deals that are fair and actually free trade deals, not just signing a deal then slipping on tariffs with NAFTA, And by cutting the associated costs, reducing education costs, reducing banking regulations all which Trump is doing! Tariffs are not the solution to protecting the blue collar jobs, the solution is making the domestic industry better!

[@ibkristykat]

Elitist? whaaaaat?

[@TheRedtaz]

I was a big fan of ben, but after seeing this I have 2nd thoughts, tucker on the other hand was a true gentleman with a good heart.

[@marianoalvarez6467]

I love Ben and Tucker Carlson. I agreed more with Tucker than Ben but it didn't make me second guess him. Not challenging your thought, just found this comment interesting so I thought I'd chime in.

[@adambernon6930]

Bens not debating. He’s randomly pushing Tucker to keep the convo going. You do know this isn’t a debate right?

[@IronRAVENxvx]

@Antóin Ó Muircheartaigh Tucker said it himself in the end "That was fun!".

[@quabledistocficklepo3597]

TheRedtaz Why? Are you saying that Shapiro behaved inappropriately in any way?

[@climbhighgamer5753]

@@quabledistocficklepo3597 Right! Like they both were respectful the whole time.

[@bwoodard907]

That was a great conversation! Wow if I had an ounce of Tuckers energy, I’d get so much done! 😆

[@adonizi]

A conservative who prioritizes profit instead of family and country, isn't conserving anything at all.

[@juanmanuelgonzalez8113]

The economic ignorance underlying Tucker's position is unquestionable. Go ahead and ban driverless trucks. Then when other countries that do not ban these trucks are able to sell cheaper products to US consumers, then many of the competing businesses that hire truck drivers will go belly-up. The international competition would hit America hard and people will loss jobs in ways that are difficult to trace back to driverless truck bans. Tucker had more of an hysterical emotional appeal, rather than an argument.

[@adonizi]

@@juanmanuelgonzalez8113 He didn't say he was for banning driver less trucks. He said he would ban them IF it put 10 million men out of work. For how long? I dont know, probably long enough that the society eases into automation. Once cash registers, fast food and driving jobs are automated, those jobs will be gone forever. At that point its giant international corporations competing with each other. They are no longer employing these people. Anyway, as he said hes not anti-technology, he just prioritizes family over profit. In some cases its better to take an economic hit than destroy millions of families. Automation might not be it, but there are many cases.

[@juanmanuelgonzalez8113]

@@adonizi 2018: Never before in the history of humanity has worked so many people like the ones who work today. Today 3280 million people work in the world, 35 million more people than last year, 360 million more than a decade ago and 805 million more than 20 years ago. Therefore there is no less employment, there is more, and there is in a context of the greatest robotization until the moment of history. Therefore, it is arguable that the robotization will destroy employment, perfectly can create much more employment that is destroying. In fact, the most exaggerated forecasts, that 47% of jobs can be automated, is not entirely correct. Once we outline the methodology, what is at risk of being automated, without taking into account the jobs that will be created, and without taking into account the possibility that the companies themselves reorganize to maintain employment, is 9% , not 47%. Therefore, I do not think that we have to, thinking that we are going to robotize, begin to establish right now, schemes of state regulations, that could justly harm that process, and that could cause an economic stagnation. And other thing, it is not that if jobs are destroyed in an area of ​​the company, they have to create jobs in the same area of ​​the company. Robotizing can lower the price of the product. By lowering the price of the product increases the demand for that product. By increasing the demand for this product, more workers are needed in the same company, but also also increases the worker's disposable income to demand other things. That is exactly what happened in the transition from agriculture to industry. Under the price of the agrarian goods, increase disposable income and opened the demand to demand other very different things where the work was placed. And there is just a fairly recent estimate of three economists: Terry Gregor, Anna Salomons and Ulrich Zierahn in a paper entitled "Rising with or against the machine" where they show that within 90 and 2010 is true, the technologies destroyed almost 10 million jobs, but created 21 million. Therefore the balance is is net and very appreciable

[@adonizi]

@@juanmanuelgonzalez8113 I dont care how many people are employed in China and India where they literally use slave labor. Sure a manufacturing plant that employed 10 thousand Americans moves to China, so 10 thousand jobs are moved there. Hey look at that, no jobs were lost in the world. This is nonsense. I only care whats happening in my country. Also you really have to explain how if 10 thousand truckers are put out of work, because of automation what are the new 20 million jobs that are created and where? The fact is that all the manufacturing jobs left from the rust belt, destroying millions of families. Immigration to inner cities has destroyed black families. Family, social cohesion and stability should come first. Guys like you are the reason republicans have been losing for decades.

[@juanmanuelgonzalez8113]

@@adonizi The thing is that you don't know how the economy runs or works, so you're just talking about feelings. Republicans are loosing because people like, the new generation of Conservatives, fans of regulation, protectionism, therefore, big government. You look more like fucking national socialists, rather than classical liberals in terms of economics and politics.

[@Gazerich]

I liked watching Tucker on Fox, but after this I have an even deeper respect for him. He seems to have a grasp on what is going on. Ben Shapiro is a great debater, but I think is disconnected from the average joe.

[@Tony00307]

Gazerich #tulsi2020 #bernie2020

[@howdydutt1e]

Check out Andrew Yang

[@mrbeefy1101]

howdydutt1e all the dems are out of their mind

[@FreakazoidRobots]

Hierarchy isn't just a mammal thing. It's also a lobster thing!

[@thibaldus3]

@Digital Nomad But he was right on this point.

[@jessewoodall8941]

Shell out

[@hemipemi]

@@jessewoodall8941 He didn't shell out. He clawed his way to the top.

[@KarolynaABCMultiserviciosB]

lol , JBP great argument ,

[@mynameisalice01]

David Guffey lobsters ❤️

[@maycamilleri8308]

A strong moral compass is what we need to thrive.

[@SweatHog]

I like both Carlson and Shapiro, two of the brightest minds of our time, but I stand with Tucker.

[@janchovanec8624]

Tucker is "just wise", whereas Ben is next to genius level. The thing is, with Tucker one cannot question his loyalty, intentions, nor honesty. Real humble man and for that he earned my admiration.

[@duartesilva7907]

Shapiro has some wrong ideas related to health insurance

[@amandaklanseck6656]

Duarte Silva He’s not wrong you just want him to support free which is off the backs of the taxpayers I’m completely free for people who don’t wanna work

[@glowwurm9365]

Christ almighty Shapiro one of the brightest minds of our times? You need to read some more Alex...

[@Tehz1359]

I agree more with tucker as well. I feel the right's priorities have gotten all mixed up in the past few decades.

[@MrJohnybirchall]

This interview has really made me take stock, rethink everything in my life

[@MIDLANDER31]

That glorious moment when Tucker realizes he's in a debate, and turns it on.

[@alexmercer936]

The Bearded Crusader what time do you think that is in the video?

[@reinojorsico4575]

@@alexmercer936 17:25

[@mikimiyazaki]

@@reinojorsico4575 17:24

[@elidames6889]

Tucker got a fair amount of respect from me because he said something Fox wouldn't appreciate. "I'm a talk show host. I bring things up. I'm not some diagnostic expert who can break it down. I have to address the obvious, and sometimes, the obvious isn't there and a network wants something close to it."

[@landonburns5208]

It's not a debate. Ben has stated this multiple times. You can even see when he has left wing people on the show, he just questions them. Ben not once made an actual point.

[@rileywatson3450]

"leave your parents graves and the town you grew up in to go to some soulless city and become a cog in the machine" underrated quote from Tucker

[@hubtubby]

Didn't he also not want truckers to stop being cogs when their jobs could be replaced? Sounds pretty ridiculous that he wants the cog system to continue because "dey took our jerbs"

[@zaccatacc]

​@@hubtubbyhuge oversimplification there bud. Your salary or job doesn't automatically equate to being a cog. Otherwise, there would be no cogs at all on wall st. Secondly, the idea of being a cog is relative to how much you consume vs produce plus how you live your life. If you're soulless drone that only prioritizes their career and money over things like family, community, your home like tuckers example, you're a drone. But if you live life with your job and money not being the forefront of your decisions, it gets more nuanced.

[@hubtubby]

@@zaccatacc huge overcomplication, seems like you just wanted to say nuanced. It also must be the common drone word drop of the "enlightened". Probably more of a cover up for being hypocritical. Just like how they were using "humbled", or when abusers say "it hurts me as much as it hurts you" So you're saying "First you need a job and salary, but if it comes first you're a cog/drone." How's life look for those that don't put a job and salary first? I wonder if Tucker Carlson has also been known to sell supplements or torches. His homoerotic man special was also odd. Maybe he's like a lot of the nuanced males Ive met. "family comes first" then spends as much time as they can away from them, with the excuse of job. Probably prefers time in the locker rooms.

[@zaccatacc]

@@hubtubby by nuance I mean taking factors into consideration like everyone sane normal person when making a big decision. Nothing overly complicated because where you live and how far you are from a preferred community are regular concerns for a majority of people. If you care about wherever makes you the most amount of money without considering lifestyle changes, be my guest. If not, also be my guest. Idk what youre arguing here bruv

[@hubtubby]

@@zaccatacc ok I understand now, you're confused and overthinking. Let's go back to my first comment, the opening line in this video, and the comment I was replying to. Tucker is scared of automation taking jobs and wants to start banning it. Tucker wants to live in a country based around the job. If you can't understand why this is bad, then I don't think I can help you. There was a famous quote that came to mind though. If you want jobs then give these workers spoons instead of shovels. This is the cog, deliberately making your life worse for the sake of the machine.

[@iconik-cn5rm]

tucker proves the wisdom of life over time and free-thinking beats intellectual idealism by Shapiro respect your elder youngster

[@kadenhepner9767]

Except the outlines of socialism with healthcare or services being treated as rights instead of as a commodity. Tucker Carlson is a liberal populist dreaming of a Neo- Post 1950 world after war time. Ben Shapiro is a youngster but an iron clad conservative pushing constitutional republicanism and capitalism. These are clashing ideas

[@FreshwaterSquid77]

I agree with Tucker over Ben, although I like them both. Free market capitalism works but we need to make it serve society; not make society serve it.

[@matrixman8582]

A driverless truck will by definition serve me. I don't have to drive it on a daily basis

[@ezpk-]

I think his point is that the market should be a place where we can freely trade instead of what it is at the moment. What exists now is an environment in which the growth of the market itself is the metric of success and not how that market aligns with the interest of citizens. As a result, decisions are made with a "market first" mentality instead of using the market purely as a tool for serving the populace and making fair deals between people. People abstract the performance of the market into points regarding how our economy and the people in it are doing but it's a fairly one dimensional view of it. We need to consider the blend of wages, prices, and overall economic performance (GDP, etc.).

[@matrixman8582]

@@ezpk- Automation will liberate the workers and allow them to work for themselves. It will create a self employment economy built on investment and passive income

[@centerrightpunk]

Matrix Man the idea that everyone is going to run their own business enough to live beyond subsistence seems far-fetched.

[@S.Grenier]

@@centerrightpunk Yea it's utopic thinking at best, I'm glad to see some people who realize that. First of all the ratio of success for people suddenly converting their lives and (often very limited) skills to self-employment and entrepreneurship will be rather low. We'd be lucky if it was as high as 50%, but even then... 50% of hundreds of millions of people seeing their finances and situations collapse will be a catastrophe. The result will be a society that will be so radically altered that it's absolutely impossible to predict what that society will be like at all, except for the fact that it won't be a place that we wanna live in. Not only that, but even those who succeed may not be destined for living that far high above the level of poverty, as "success" in making this change in your professional life won't necessarily guarantee meaningful profits. Individuals still won't control the exploitation of resources, the major means of production, won't be making policies and won't have a ready access to international markets. Huge robotized corporations and governments will. This is some dark thinking that leads to dark places. Limiting, or at least pacing technology is something we have the power to do, and maybe even a responsibility to do WHEN it's necessary. It doesn't mean refusing innovation, it means that at the moment you decide to deploy this innovative technology, you can be ensure that it won't cause more harm than good. Self driving cars are the future, no one can stop innovation, but if this innovation comes in the next 5 years on a large scale, we are not ready, and it will benefit the largest corporate entities a lot more than it will benefit the average US citizen.

[@cooliD97]

Tucker carlson is the definition of a free thinker.

[@lionsden5123]

Yea he’s certainly a special one. Excellent at articulating and expounding his perspectives as well.

[@kyle9970]

Freethinker, yea maybe - but actually someone who is thinking and had ability/platform to communicate it

[@kieranhimself9124]

I think you mean free of thinking

[@rossfriedman6570]

*spits out drink*

[@virtualpilgrim8645]

There is no such thing as a free thinker. You either serve God or you serve the devil.

[@marylouviere1873]

Tucker Carlson is very intelligent and has the courage to speak truth He’s definitely left a classy legacy I love his laugh

[@jeffrey4531]

Hey Tucker. Really enjoy this little mini tour you are doing. Great talks so far.

[@Tina-Marie-iz8zy]

Yep I to have been enjoying his your too.

[@jmp01a24]

You like old bald guys who wear a headpiece. Sweet.

[@JohnusSmittinis]

16:09 - Tucker: "With great power comes great responsibility."

[@TheWunder]

Spiderman

[@chamclamtv]

manspider

[@ryangarber7180]

Uncle Tuck

[@MichaelPhelps_]

Uncle Ben

[@giovannibertaina2621]

“This is my gift, my curse. Who am I? I’m Tucker.”

[@nicholaswilkowski632]

We need to break up google and the massive tech companies

[@stonnerwaffendivision189]

Nicholas Wilkowski make them a national utility, solves the problem instantly

[@traveller7552]

Reject false Democracy and then slow down their development to a turtles pace? No thank you. Break up the monopolies, don’t make them socialist.

[@smokedsalmon_2540]

Nicholas Wilkowski We need a Teddy Roosevelt 2.0, I really hope it’s trump

[@stonnerwaffendivision189]

Traveller Leng You’re not understanding a fundamental part of the monopoly, ALL of the tech companies work for the same people ALL news obeys the same pressmaster capitalism has failed And communsim is a Talmudic trick Both are flawed

[@TheBestGoblinCocks]

Shush, they'll get you...

[@TwilightSentinel]

Tucker on the Shapiro show is VERY different than Tucker on Fox.

[@potatoes5829]

I like long-formed tucker better than fox news rapid fire tucker

[@michaelhooper7587]

Ben is an excellent interviewer with thoughtful(not leading) questions and responses and Tucker is great as always especially with his integrity(rare). Great interview!

[@aurelion4994]

Ben Shapiro came off very poorly in this interview, he kept trying to boil all of Tuckers statements in the left vs right, socialism vs capitalism dialectic. While Tucker, refused to join in this and talked about deeper issues, the atomization of the individual, the social responsibility of the rich aka noblesse oblige, and the role of technology in all this. Sad!

[@cccalhoun]

5:16 & 7:24 Carlson himself says he distrusts complexity in worldview. He agrees with Shapiro on this, it isn't something being imposed upon him.

[@teckgeeg]

Well Said

[@kenim]

As someone that lives in the higher-ish tiers of society, it saddens me a lot to see the lack of sense of duty to society nowadays. And even the ones who "try" mostly end up being narcisistic virtue signal speech

[@177SCmaro]

@MrSting17 False analogy. (Economic) Freedom is a negative - it requires the ABSENCE of something: the initiation of force. Water is a positive - it's PRESENCE is required for something (for plants to live and grow). You can have too much of positive, like water, you can't have "too much" of a negative, of freedom. That's like saying having 0 apples is "too many apples, so we need fewer apples" when it represents an absence of any apples. You can't physically have fewer then none of something. If you believe the problem is "too much freedom" you don't understand the difference between positive and negative concepts, and/or you don't understand that freedom is a negative concept - that it describes what people can't do to you. btw, I'm always suspicious of people who start with mental imagery rather than principles and concrete definitions because it almost always means you're in the presence of a sophist.

[@jeringeorge6394]

@@177SCmaro It's not about owing the society anything, but if you want the capatalist society to function in a healthy way you gotta give back a little to the society man I'm all for capatalist but if you want that wheel to keep spinning you gotta realise you have to keep it in check and make sure there is not a huge divide between the rich and the poor

[@GoldenpaydirtReviews]

I freaking love tucker! He’s so true an honest an American! That’s super important to me! Trump 2020

[@jackpeckham4222]

The dynamic duo causing liberal nightmares!

[@elmarco777]

both liars

[@sandy1029]

MARK BROOMER NPC shut up

[@elmarco777]

@@sandy1029 truth hurts, i can prove it. he's a liar.

[@kentuckymn4367]

PWN TEH LIBZ!!@! I WROTE THIS WIT MY GUN! WOOOHAW

[@j.savage1228]

All NPC's claim prominent Conservatives are liars. None can produce any facts to support said claims.

[@pittfan498]

Weird how neither of these people accused each other of being racists or anything else and have much different opinions, and also disagreed at certain parts. Weird how that works.

[@kevinzhang3313]

If you're so sure of it

[@anthony._l7155]

Nah it’s not weird

[@sirchad7321]

anthony._l it’s called sarcasm

[@tricep292]

Just look at everything in the news it can support both ben and tucker.........

[@ez_company9325]

its because they agree about which races to hate! /s See, there you go, thats how you write off the entire conversation as a couple of bigots with nothing to say. Vote joe biden! /s

[@PrismGenesis]

the Chad Tucker vs the Virgin Shapiro

[@anthonymanuel55000]

He has a wife and kids you golden silver price of shit

[@mparker548]

Anthony Manuel wooooshhhh

[@angelbarajas9180]

"The Chad Carlson" has a better flow to it

[@IblewuponyourfaceIII]

Lmao 😂

[@nirlambghumman7398]

I think a better term would be The Chad Carlson

[@joycemattson8273]

Love Tucker and so appreciate this interview Thanks to Ben as well Thanks to both for a great stimulating Discussion. Two of my favorite commentators So helpful

[@oldssaccount990]

Most ambitious crossover event in history... Shut up marvel.

[@way108]

Leave the Comment Section 😂😂😂

[@digitalkulak7457]

Conservatives can disagree and have a constructive discussion. The Left just think as a group.

[@j.d.salinger3709]

Exactly. Leftists don't disagree on anything. If liberals aren't 100% lockstep, they are thrown out or chastised. You hardly have any variations with them.

[@abekaye8317]

This is the difference between an intellectual debate and an argument.

[@digitalkulak7457]

@@abekaye8317 So true.

[@darrinEH]

Yeah great. Too bad discussion doesn't win. The left may think as a group but they also act as a group. Keep patting yourself on the back. Feel good about losing.

[@digitalkulak7457]

@@darrinEH They certainly think and act as a group, as all cults do. Discussion doesn't win because post-modernists don't accept the concept of objective truth. A winning argument will be met with an increase in volume or ad hominem attacks. Keep patting yourself on the back. Feel good about losing.

[@Shamino1]

41:05 I bet this made Ben feel really strange, if only for half a moment. It was as if Tucker was calling him out. As if 'Oh no, I've been found out.' Ben Shapiro has always come across to me as a guy who fills a large part of his soul, not all of it, but a large part of it with dollar bill signs. It's hard to find an elitist more unaware of this irony.

[@ofeliaaquino5093]

I LOVE THEM BOTH. INTELLIGENT AND WHAT A WONDERFUL INTERVIEW. LOVE WATCHING THEM.

[@vancouveruzbekistan5350]

TUCKER LOVES, SUPPORTS & looks up to the NAZI russian GENOCIDERS OF THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE SO ALL OF YOU COMMENTERS HERE DO TOO! HOW VERY SMART OF YOU!

[@paulfroelich1024]

Worth noting that Tucker was Christopher Hitchens's favorite Conservative commentator.

[@L0G0PHILE]

Yes, Hitch mentioned him a time or two. Wish I could find the clips.

[@angelbarajas9180]

If you like Christopher Hitchiens then you might also like Douglas Murray

[@blacksunempire2878]

@@angelbarajas9180 I prefer Charles Murray ;)

[@JoeyM10]

That’s high praise

[@wormyfren8133]

Body Bags For Commie Fags Excellent username. And everyone, please read the Bell Curve. Pretty funny how Tucker played off the race part but never blasts it as untrue. He knows and it’s fantastic.