Tucker Responds to Neocon Critics After Saying Nukes Are Evil on Joe Rogan

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[@toniam.2080]

The day Tucker apologized about his support of the Iraq War was the day I realized what a decent man he is.

[@denroy3]

Lol. After the lies became untenable. The damage his CIA lies did is not fixed by playing a new game.

[@mariuszamfirescu5390]

@@denroy3 Others don't recognize it even today, so stop pretending to be so intransigent!

[@fuckamericanidiot]

@@denroy3 Who else apologised? I'll wait.

[@carsyncruz]

@@denroy3if you spoke in front of camera and wanted to be successful and stand out among the masses of newsreaders. You take a position, your position just like his ain't always right, doesn't mean they can't change , or just be wrong every once in a while. Tucker's stances pretty much all now line up with voices of the people. i like him, way back in the day i watched john stewart and jon oliver. They were funny, and back then i didn't realize what they were really doing.

[@Quincy_Morris]

Didn’t Iraq sponsor terrorism?

[@TheTkrum]

You know the character of a man when he clearly recognizes his mistakes, unabashed to bring them up to an audience, who didn’t know the error to begin with. So rare in today’s highlight reel’s.

[@ManiacalMidget13]

I Unsubbed Steven crowder for this very reason. Them bashing you over a simple opinion made me lose all respect for him and his crew.

[@kozykarma7471]

It was a very simple opinion that showed how simple and shallow he is. People are laughing at him for being so emotional and saying such dumb things without fleshing out an alternative that would have worked in 1945.

[@rhondasponders52]

I lost respect for Crowder after watching the video of his narcissistic actions toward his pregnant wife.

[@chrisporter9397]

@@rhondasponders52Look we get she was pregnant but you cant call her “wide”

[@mayronn2833]

Facts. I use to like that show but they turned out to be sellouts. It’s obvious that they bend over the desk for a foreign country while acting as if they’re America first. If you comment against their bs, most times no one says anything more than likely due to most of the commenters are bots.

[@quagmoe7879]

@@rhondasponders52 I thought she was being the instigator and also something of a b*tch from the video I saw but Crowder is just a joke for a lot of other reasons.

[@donnamacleod4488]

Yes.. and what about FDR and the rest, allowing Pear Harbor to happen.. so evil.

[@b3dazzl3]

FDR sold this country out; unpopular opinion, one of the worst presidents this country has ever had.

[@pretorious700]

FDR did more than "allow" it to happen. His oil embargo on Japan was a de facto act of war.

[@usernextuser5385]

Someone once said that dropping the bomb was to show the Russians that the USA would use it.

[@worldobserver3515]

They had a new weapon and wanted to use it.

[@Ryan.Schutt]

Did they have to use it twice though? Would the bomb on Nagasaki not be enough to prove America could deploy a bomb on the other side of the planet?

[@str8z331]

@@Ryan.Schutt It wasn't the same bomb type. They needed 2 targets for their evil experiments. Japan was litteraly media isolated and deliberately used for bomb testing purpose. Then, hidden labs were used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki to get science and military observations on iradiated people. A press paper was written by a true press reporter on ground, immediately labeled as "complotist" by politics.

[@cyberninjazero5659]

​@@Ryan.SchuttOnce to prove that they would use it, twice to prove that they could do it again

[@usernextuser5385]

@@Ryan.Schutt I think there was an element of punishment in it because the Japanese homeland had not suffered much unlike Germany.

[@greggibson5575]

Children Playing With Matches= Nuclear Weapons

[@CryptoAl420]

My grandma taught me about the war. She lived through it. She and the children made it to the small Islands. US warned them multiple times before they dropped the bomb. First one. She says the military did not believe the American's. It was the second bomb that made the General give up and committed sepaku or suicide. She lived through both world wars. She knew the rulling class is to blame. She never hated America. Japan is not America. Not the same people. Japan is a proud and warrior country bound in close family relationship. Work you body and mind as one. She was old school. She raised me. I hope she was right. And she's reborn someone or something beautiful...like her life was Your boy misses you Hotsu 😢

[@oldyellerschannel4676]

The fact is, the military branches in Japan were at war with each other. ALL OF THEM, even branches within the Army, the Navy and the TWO Air Forces, as both the Army and the Navy had their own Airforce. The Emperor was kept in the dark as to the dropping of either of the bombs. The was an actual battle, in the Palace, where The Emperor's Guards were killed, by the Army, trying to get the surrender letter from the Emperor, out to the Americans, after the first bomb was dropped, of which the Emperor was just informed. YES. The Japanese people were warned. Leaflets by the thousands were dropped, and it it were not for the Emperor's Guards fighting their own military, getting that letter out of the Palace to the Americans, the surrender would not have happened. It was NOT the Generals who surrendered. They believed to surrender was dishonorable. They were ashamed. That is why they committed Seppuku. (Sepaku is a district in Indonesia) Lastly, dying from Incendiary Bombs, or Napalm, that leveled Tokyo, the Buzz Bombs that carpeted England, and the devastating bombing of Dresden, are no different than a Nuclear Bomb. WAR IS HELL. Thousands of lives were saved on both sides, as the Japanese would NEVER have surrendered in a conventional war. They believed the Emperor was OF the Gods, and therefore Japan could NEVER lose.

[@denroy3]

Don't worry, the only people that bought Tucker's childish take were already on that boat. They don't care, they like to play pretend, so that they can feel morally superior.

[@tommyl3207]

You're a good man and your Grandma was wonderful. And she was right.

[@you-to-beornot-to-be9629]

@@oldyellerschannel4676 bla bla bla bla bla bullshit......

[@lucasgrey9794]

Japan's elites lied about surrendering because of the nukes. They surrendered because the Soviets would've wiped them out like they did to Russia's elites.

[@kudos12j]

Good bless you Tucker

[@TTFN55]

I heard what you meant, Tucker!

[@denroy3]

For what, pushing a new agenda? He must of git tired of pushing CIA lies to promote wars. I sometimes wonder what exactly his new agenda is...by the way, even Putin called him on his CIA shit.

[@susanaskins6462]

I'm quite shocked at Tucker's agreeing with this guy

[@bonniehammond9566]

United states killed an estimate of 250 thousand civilians that day.

[@Flavius_Belisarius]

Rough. How many civilians were tortured and butcherd by Imperial Japan again?

[@smokeeater917]

Lol sucks to suck.

[@hosoiarchives4858]

How many civilians is allowable

[@b3dazzl3]

@@Flavius_Belisarius What does that have to do with anything? Logical fallacy's are great for people who are unable to ask questions they don't like hearing the answer to.

[@b3dazzl3]

@@smokeeater917 Your mother seems to enjoy it vigorously

[@alvinmarcus5780]

The book " Hellstorm " by Thomas Goodrich should be read by you guys. About how America, Britain, and Russia treated the German civilians 1945-1947. If true, it's a pure horror story and describes pure evil. It seems real to me from this reporter. He has another book " Summer 1945 " that i think covers how we treated the Japanese civilians. Man can be a animal.

[@gregshock]

Certainly worse than animals at times.

[@theempoweredman7353]

Gruesome Harvest by Ralph Franklin Keeling is also another book the explains in detail how the allies were complicit in atrocities committed by the allies.

[@jimpearson399]

Let's talk more about that Holocaust, Adam. LOL

[@-joe-davidson]

No one wants to talk about that one............ They would have to rewrite history.

[@Wesley-eu7rn]

Why were the Germans so feed up with the Jews?

[@swetsTV]

“Adam what’s your point” 😂

[@Naturehack]

Holocaust was modeled after how we exterminated natives

[@vincestapels2022]

Not on KZbin--!! 😅😂😂😅

[@kathymiller549]

I have respect for you. Keep doing what you’re doing. You said you can talk for hours I could sit and listen to you for hours.

[@SpookyRedz]

We love Tucker and want to Thank You for all that you do Tucker, Thank you so much

[@MrJohnnymarlboro]

Thank you Tucker! You are awesome😊

[@jamestrombley386]

It's really easy to criticize after the fact decades after the fact. Ask the people of the time.

[@twist777hz]

Literally what historians do for a living is re-examine facts. If you can't criticize, then it becomes religion.

[@jimrobcoyle]

It's hard to convince a Christian that S8an has taken over their Pastors.

[@rhondasponders52]

I’m a Christ follower and I know that many pastors have taken on the “celebrity “ status and TOTALLY left their relationship with Christ in the dust! They have opened doors to the enemy & unintentionally invited demonic spirits into their soul- thus into their church.

[@quagmoe7879]

Orthodoxy is the way ☦️

[@worldobserver3515]

Pope.

[@peterwehrmeyer925]

Because Harry was told 5-10 million casualties to invade Japan and he knew we couldn't take it.

[@danbock578]

Tucker, after you said that, I portray nuclear weapons as being from hell in my hs history classes. Thank you.

[@davidelliott2485]

I agree with part of your view on this. Remember, the emporer was ready to surrender and the military tried to stop him/overthrow him. So…hindsight is 20/20, maybe there was a better way. Maybe the people who made those decisions really believed it was the best horrible choice? I don’t know but I respect your opinion.

[@OneWildTurkey]

Remember, hindsight is 20/20. Unless you use wikipedia when you can be considered legally blind.

[@klardfarkus3891]

Dresden and I got to mention Tokyo fire bombing which killed more than both nuclear weapons

[@danielmeuler2877]

Who are the people on the "Right" that were upset about Tucker saying Using Nukes is Evil when used against only civilians???

[@dragons_red]

Neocons, IE, the state worshipping warmongers on the Right

[@Flavius_Belisarius]

They were warned to leave. They were building the weapons Japan used to massacre tens of millions. Including mostly unarmed civilians.

[@buckaroobonsaitree7488]

Little Ben

[@siyar-mc1xz]

"Only" civilians? Ladies and Gentlemen we got ourselves a military genius ;)

[@Flavius_Belisarius]

Idk, however, it wasn't just used against "civilians.:

[@Johnamekin]

The thing I will always question is : Why Hiroshima, Why Nagasaki. I heard the military target justification but those were kind of minor compared to other true military targets which wouldve resulted in not even a 10th of the civilian casualties. I will always be on the side of using the nukes in that manner was pure evil while also thinking they had to be shown to stop the war too.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Well, consider this. The Japanese did not refuse to surrender, they refused to surrender unconditionally. When the Americans refused to negotiate, the Japanese planned to hold out for the Soviets to force a stalemate. Why would one accept the narrative of the people who committed the crime? They chose civilian targets, not military targets. Was their new toy not cool enough if it didn't maximise civilian casualties? The only alternative was to invade the mainland? Why do we accept that an invasion was necessary at all. Why the rush?

[@joetato2227]

Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military industrial cities that's why they were targeted. Tokyo was fire bombed because it was their capitol it was far less relevant for arms production. Unfortunately you couldn't just twist their ear until they said uncle.

[@dougvuillemot8670]

The truth is the same groups of people have been running things forever. Its the opposite of what they tell you. It's population control. The United States isn't constantly getting bombed cause our population is lower then a lot of places. All these gov control apparatuses are evil as fuck.

[@sidecharacter7165]

They originally had a different target but there was bad weather and they went to a secondary target.

[@sidecharacter7165]

Thinking their is objective evil is the oldest lie

[@June3toJune20]

The worst place to speak truth is KZbin. You can’t trust any of this.

[@denroy3]

Are you telling the truth? Questioning what, Tucker and his new motives? Anyway, I don't fall in line for anyone like a lemming...

[@user-uv3yc5bn7o]

I agree. Smith is a Jew. He can NOT be trusted.

[@user-uv3yc5bn7o]

I agree. Smith is a Jew. He can can NOT be trusted.

[@brydro1505]

its crazy how in one breath he can say "victors write history" and "the japanese and nazis were caracaturely evil" my radar is failing me on this one but i lean yes

[@aronm5617]

Well they were that's not really up for debate. Hitlers ultimate goal was to conquer all of Eastern Europe for the German "living space" while enslaving all the slavs. He could have easily won on the Eastern front if he treated the peoples in conquered on the way East with any civility. They were the same peoples the Russians were staving to death in the years prior. But Hitler was so cartoonisly evil that he saw them all as inferior Imperial Japan wanted to take all of Asia and they made killing civilians a sport. Look at the Chinese death toll from that war. So yes in most cases wars are more nuanced but when it comes to WW2 they were about as evil as evil gets. The only part that gets muddy and nuanced is siding with an evil power to win the war in Russia and allowing them to take Eastern Europe instead of letting the Nazis have it. Russia should have gotten no aid.

[@holidayhouse03]

We never should have went over there in 1917. The War to end all wars would have ended differently had we stayed home.

[@nickwest9039]

I’m glad you said that. I defend you

[@stevengonzalez7729]

Gulf of Tolken was inside job😮

[@tommytwogloves16]

Gulf of Tonkin. Do your homework.

[@stevengonzalez7729]

@@tommytwogloves16 misspelled on purpose

[@waitwhat3148]

J.R.R. Tolkien worked indoors?

[@stevengonzalez7729]

@@waitwhat3148 pearl harbor was inside job

[@brent-sherman]

If you believe in the "goodness" of humanity in the core of your worldview, that's a big problem....

[@TallulahSoie]

It can be a terrible thing, but still the right thing to do. I don't lose respect for people for being wrong. Hot takes without reason are obnoxious.

[@terry4137]

Don’t think it was all republicans their were many if not all voted for this war. They’d never mention they were wrong, nor many republicans.

[@JoyleiaJo]

0:45 Japanese Christians

[@TTFN55]

I grew up with two Japanese families. Both were Christian.

[@dextermorgan1]

I wondered about that too.

[@lunog]

Nagasaki was founded by the Portuguese in the 1500s. It was/is a major center of Catholic christianism in Japan.

[@denroy3]

​@@lunogmore people were killed on Okinawa than Nagasaki and Hiroshima combined...the Japanese not only were surrendering, they had upped the defense with suicide Kamikaze attacks and civilians committing sepaku

[@Thunderball.Mcgillicutty]

these 2 guys could take it all.....

[@CarbageMan]

There was also the firebombing of Dresden.

[@sidecharacter7165]

Tokyo was worse.

[@CarbageMan]

@@sidecharacter7165 So Dresden was okay, right?

[@sidecharacter7165]

@@CarbageMan Sure, don’t declare war on the world and lose.

[@CarbageMan]

I don't recall doing so. I don't recall Dresden doing so.

[@MegrelMamba]

​@@sidecharacter7165Japan did the same on the Asian sphere.

[@LocalCoot]

he wisely refrained from saying how many perished in the 1941 holocaust

[@WildTrek]

The fact that anyone can disagree that massive death and radioactive fallout is a bad thing is just insane

[@CellChaos-vw5pg]

Yeah, and carcinogenic smoke is bad, but people still smoke cigarettes, don't they?

[@WildTrek]

@@CellChaos-vw5pg I don’t entertain nonsense from 2 week old accounts. Enjoy wasting your life in the comments section 🤷‍♂️

[@CellChaos-vw5pg]

@@WildTrek 6 hours and no likes ... Who's wasting their time in the comment section??? 🤣

[@siyar-mc1xz]

So starving the population would have been a better outcome? Or a full invasion of the islands?

[@VanSisean]

The difference is that individuals voluntarily choose to smoke (and non-smoking zones limit others' exposure to significant doses of those carcinogens), whereas multiple billions of people and many other lifeforms who did not choose to be willing participants in a nuclear exchange will have their lives taken away from them by the hubris of powerful, unaccountable governments, with the survivors left to endure the kind of world depicted in "Threads" (1984).

[@allenchimpster3085]

Yeah man, i dont think invading a decade into WW2 can be considered a "preemptive war." soviets were always going to win in the end but hindsight is 20/20. Also, its hard to argue that WW2 put us on the map as a world power when we were vastly outpacing national output averages at the time for war materials seemingly overnight after re-tooling. Its a benchmark because it was the deadliest conventional war in human history. If we didnt enter, we wouldnt be speaking german or japanese, we would be speaking russian. Loved the episode up until this point. Just a really bad take on this period of history. Very childish viewpoint imo.

[@ObiCentral]

I love the title 😂 basically dissing Jeremy and his cronies

[@amateurshooter6054]

Thanks Tucker

[@user-gm4gq4li7k]

Are government let Hitler go.

[@nadakidd]

I argue that socialism was/is worse than WWII.

[@AmRock83]

You can't disconnect an event from the things that led up to it, and you have to be really careful criticizing the people in the moment when you have the benefit of hindsight.

[@OneWildTurkey]

Very well said.

[@ResidentRecon89]

This is why someone needs to invent time travel so we can go back in time and tell past Presidents of what their actions have caused future generations and maybe we could change some shit.

[@OneWildTurkey]

@@ResidentRecon89 They already did and told Obama. Otherwise, nobody could have been such a total and complete failure as Biden.

[@mommadiane7312]

Much respect fir you, Tucker! ❤🇺🇸🌍

[@InTheWeeds314]

So is it true that more money is spent destroying others than using less money to help?

[@lifebeginswithaseed]

You know, don't worry about "the right" or "the left". Just worry about what's right. The right isn't always right.

[@tina-mariecrocker5687]

Well said

[@denroy3]

The left never is.

[@lifebeginswithaseed]

@@denroy3 Agree!

[@cyberninjazero5659]

​@@denroy3The left is right about Palestine

[@lifebeginswithaseed]

@@cyberninjazero5659 I don't like the killing on either side. War is horrendous.

[@phil9582]

The Brits did the same with Napoleon before Tache man

[@antonroux6737]

stick to your guns Tucker - you have opened up a massive vein of TRUTH

[@denroy3]

Truth? You wouldn't know truth if they dropped it on your head. Tucker was ranting and raving about a 100 issues...his Abomb take was childish, without any context...frankly, it was stupid. His Aliens take was rather bizarre as well. But he did Apologize for telling lies for the CIA to help promote the Iraq war. I'm sure all the dead people will appreciate it.

[@raydavis2285]

Hey TUCKER !!lets talk about the fire bombing of Japan ..In one nite we killed almost 80,000

[@orionstark]

People who say "World War 2 was the worst thing that ever happened." Need to read Mongol history.

[@austinbratton9973]

Tucker dont watch any of the news but he sure puts it out there 😂😂😂😂

[@Unaobradisfruta]

I can't believe Chris Cuomo is going to debate Dave Smith Dave is totally going to embarrass him

[@gijoe508]

This is excellent

[@EDDIE.EDDISON]

“Ww2 is the worst thing that happened in the history of the world” yep, who funded it?

[@pygmalioninvenus6057]

You know who

[@jarodtaylor8533]

the same people who benefited from WW1 via declaration

[@Quincy_Morris]

You think it happened because of funding? It happened because of socialism (nazism) and communism (soviets)

[@siyar-mc1xz]

​@@jarodtaylor8533 Most intelligent antisemites ;)

[@futurebalance6134]

I lost all my teeth 4 wheeling

[@wrosebrock]

Implants

[@lifebeginswithaseed]

​@@wrosebrock$$$

[@Bendejo-lm8wo]

Good.

[@pav3039]

Lol. Love how Tucker checked himself at the end. We've all done evil things. Not war crimes, but generally bad things we regret.

[@bksaif]

The two greatest people of the world 🌍🙏👍

[@stirlingdavis4179]

I can (and maybe have) only hoped... That by dropping 'the bomb'; not only once but twice, not only was the war ended. (.). But THAT IT WOULD NEVER BE DROPPED AGAIN.(.).!...!.

[@stirlingdavis4179]

Even still, maybe not an excuse...

[@M42Cullen]

An enemy that is whole in body, mind and spirit cannot be defeated. In warfare the principle way in which victory is achieved is thru attrition of resources, the primary being soldiers, the secondary being logistical support of same. The x's and o's of tactics are just a means to this end. Most munitions are actually designed to wound and maim, the idea being that forcing your enemy to care for its wounded puts a strain on not just supply but the morale of the opposing force, effecting not just body but also mind and spirit. Quite horrific yes? By inflicting a mass casualty event, much like severe trauma to a person, the body goes into shock, negating the mind and spirit of the recipient. While this might seem equally if not more disturbing I offer this. Is it ethical to cause your enemy to suffer? The argument I laid out about attrition has been the driving philosophy behind warfare for hundreds of years. If a war broke out and we ended it in 3 days, is that not preferable to years of untold misery for all involved? Is a quick death not a merciful one? This has probably made most people reading it angry, but this is the reality of our fallen world. We chose to court the devil instead of living in God and suffering is our reward.

[@kevinswindle1356]

You’re the man- screw them ! But i am pissed off over woke WMBA coach Christie Sides Indiana fevers head coach and Katlin Clark’s they’ve lost every game. She don’t want Katlin to shoot threes., what the duck 🦆!! Instead of using katlin‘s talent, they suppress her… Tucker call for immediate removal, if you were unaware, you should look into it!! Help her out with your platform!!! God bless you Tucker 🏀🏀🏀🦆🇺🇸 Indiana fever fans are calling for her removal immediate. !! They are treating her bad because she’s white, Something she had no choice at all in. You are the man.!!

[@gadgetdoc]

Agree 100%. When I was younger and would say that, boy would it upset folks and lead them to lecture me. I'm anti war and anti nuclear weapons to this day.

[@Quincy_Morris]

Anti war Anti nuclear weapons Pick ONE Nuclear weapons ensured WWIII didn’t happen between the US and Russia. You think Russia would be invading Ukraine right now if they hadn’t given up their nukes?

[@j.taylor3670]

Not at all pro nuclear weapons--wanna be clear-- but at the time, the life expectancy of a Marine Corps Captain on Owl Mike was calculated at 10 minutes. --manpower was so short after the Bulge that they were drugging soldiers with "Blue 88's" (named after the gun) and sending them back into combat zombie like. AND FINALLY my fiance's mother was Japanese and in middle school during the War and they did drills with a solder coming to school to teach them how to kill a man with a sharpened bamboo pole. They were so brainwashed that they were going to be barbecued by our soldiers that they were jumping off cliffs. Truman was told that to invade Japan would cost him 1 million casualties.

[@user-gm4gq4li7k]

He got to live his life out and die much later on.

[@loganrocksmith362]

Did it happen tho?

[@aprescienceofhumor7977]

Glad your getting alot of ads but f youtube

[@stirfrybry1]

We're all fed narratives until we have the confidence to make our assessments. Part of being correct is leaning when we're wrong

[@thelutheranknights1404]

Interesting at what comments can be said, and what comment cannot be said.

[@garybrown2039]

2:27 That right there was something that the he should have said right off the bat. He just talked about it, so casually like he ignored everything else that provided context of why they made the decision that they did. Including the terms of surrender that even this host didnt really go into detail before my little timestamp. 4:31 For me personally, it also wasn't about an Empire bro, it was about actually looking at the circumstances surrounding the decision and it just felt like he blew it off.

[@andreiabezerra9466]

Tucker knows why

[@nidalshehahadeh7485]

Portuguese sailors visited Japan in 1543, they were the first Europeans to have concessions in south of Japan which concentrated in Hiroshima and Nagasaki , the south of Japan was a Christian stronghold , There Was Fear among Western policymakers that if the emperor collapse then Christianity will expand all over Japan , at the same time the Communist we're gaining territory in the north of Japan , some say the fear from Christianity's expansion was the reason behind dropping nuclear bombs on the Christian strongholds off Hiroshima and Nagasaki .

[@MrHappy4870]

I've personally known many WWII veterans. One in particular was a US Marine who would have been assigned to the invasion of Japan during the war. To a man, they all defended the use of the atomic bombs. The Marine specifically stated, "The atomic bomb saved my life". That said, the globe suffers a world war (A war involving all the major powers on multiple continents) every 20 years. Since World War II, there has not been a world war for almost 80 years. Nuclear deterrence has everything to do with that. Si vis pacem, para bellum. Overall, war fatalities have DECREASED over the past 80 years and you can thank Pax Americana for that.

[@sharonlain5830]

The body count with a traditional landing and battle would have been far greater for civilians and military on both sides. Whether it’s a bomb or bullets it’s still death. War is horrible. I’m glad we won. I have Japanese friends who have said the same thing. We can sit back in comfort and freedom and criticize soldiers who had the hardest decisions to make.

@@sharonlain5830 Same logic could be used, and was used, for 9/11. They hit us where it hurt to make a point and get us to leave the middle east alone after decades of intervention they disapprove of. That's THEIR argument. Evil is evil. Nuking civilians is evil. Hijacking planes and crashing them into buildings is evil. When you cannot admit this, you are the childish one.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Saved his life from his own government. Invade the island for what?

[@tankerd1847]

Not to mention the point that if we didn't use the bombs then and there, what Cold War conflict would have caused their use first? Korea or a similar war? Would both sides have had the bomb by then? As regretful as it was that Japan got the bomb used on them, the bomb has also averted a major power war for nearly a century now, and like you said, the major powers used to fight every single generation.

[@kozykarma7471]

Why doesn't Tucker address the points made by his critics when he called them evil? Why doesn't he talk directly to them about this? Has Tucker suggested any specific alternatives that would have worked at the time to save more lives than the bombs?

[@jaygallant8635]

@kozykarma7471 You can call out something that is objectively wrong without offering a solution.

[@thereligionofrationality8257]

It is a well known historical fact that Japan was ready to surrender before the bomb was dropped.

[@kengaroo5170]

The brainwashed masses get upset when you question the narrative that they accepted as morality.

[@quagmoe7879]

General Douglas MacArthur thought the bombing was totally unnecessary, unjustified, and morally wrong. Japan was ready to surrender, all we had to do was continue to blockade them.

[@chrischreative2245]

@@thereligionofrationality8257No, they weren’t. That is a lie. They didn’t surrender after the air raids, they didn’t after the first bomb. Every man, woman and child were ready for a land invasion and millions would have died if they did. The Japanese weren’t going to lay down. Tickets is 120% wrong and very bad and misinformed take.

[@anthonyg.4761]

It is evil but war is evil too. You are right on most things Tucker. To hell with the haters.

[@ginxxxxx]

im very anti war, 100% so, but ....yeah but....but it is a good thing japan lost ww2 (that statement is huge for me because i have lived in japan)

[@oldsoul3733]

All war is evil

[@mremu4358]

I would argue that it's only meant for last resorts after every chance for peace has been made in order to defend those you love. The problem unfortunately, is that many think it's best to choose war first and profit off of the soon to be rotting corpses. It will always be an ugly sign of failure to achieve unity and progress for mankind but it's something we should always be prepared for in case we have no choice to pursue peaceful means.

[@jaredleicht1656]

Yes, however, don't forget about the soft war... incognito kinda war. Those happen, and real war follows. So blame the right people.

[@Quincy_Morris]

This philosophy ensures perpetual war. As it promotes cowardice and weakness, which ensures invasion.

[@brydro1505]

no, there are such things as just wars but im failing to notice any war in the last 125 years that was "just"

[@peterc8622]

Honest question. Who got to Berlin first? Yes. Embarrassing, huh?

[@blackrifle6736]

*That was proposed at Tehran and agreed upon at Yalta.*

[@JohnGruskos]

"When I look round to see how we can win the war, I see that there is only one sure path . . . and that is an absolutely devastating, EXTERMINATING attack by very heavy bombers from this country upon the Nazi homeland. We must be able to overwhelm them by this means, without which I do not see a way through." Prime Minister Winston Churchill to Minister of Aircraft production, July 8 1940. From appendix A of "Their Finest Hour", volume 2 or Churchill's 6-volume history of WW2. Before the Holocaust started, and before the German air force ever attacked British civilians, Churchill's entire strategy for winning WW2 was an air attack designed to exterminate the German civilian population.

[@corvuscorax8459]

Dude straight up follows the original narrative lol. What is he talking about?

[@truthseeker1536]

Dropping Atomic bombs were horrible but so was the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March and other Japanese atrocities. The atomic bombs though detestable in use stopped a catastrophic war. Americans were tired of the war, the lives lost in the Pacific and in Europe. Japan wanted to negotiate while gathering her strength for one last cataclysmic battle There was the “Kyujo Incident" even after the bombs were dropped. Japan was far from surrender. War is dirty, gritty, awful and should always be avoided, it was the failure and the short sightedness of politicians around the world that led to 50 million dead. It is politicians with a broadcast system that is the true evil.

He said the acts were prima facie evil, and he criticized those on his side of going out of their way to suggest they were not. He never said the Japanese didn't commit acts of evil, rather, it is people like you who attempt to suggest that America didn't commit acts of evil. YOU are the person out-of-touch with reality. If the use of nuclear bombs on civilians isn't prima facie evil, why are people like you concerned over Iran getting nuclear weapons?

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

But, but, but. I don't care.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Do Americans realise only Americans are horrified by Pearl Harbour? It was a military target, and not unprovoked. It's funny isn't it how everything in history that doesn't make sense is just explained away by the bad guys just being st"pid. The bad guys were winning and for no reason just attacked America dragging an industrial super power into the war guaranteeing their loss. They just woke up one day and decided to be evil to their own detriment. Don't question it.

[@truthseeker1536]

Boy, you sure are accusatory, using CAPS and all using YOU, you you clearly attacking me for what? An opinion? Perhaps in your aggression, you would use the bomb.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Does not relate to what I said even a little. But it does reveal you are a hypocrite.

[@patricktitters]

👍

[@j.taylor3670]

I so Jima* (fucking spell check!)

[@heathclark318]

Man that last 30 seconds really lost. Like their is no context to that situation as horrible as it sounds. As well as the fact if not for ww1 ww2 wouldn't have happened. Then there's the fallacy of the US Empire starting after that. No mention of Hawaii, Guam, the Philippines. Our interactions against the Qing dynasty of China's during their century of humiliation. Texas lol Ffs so much context he is either ignoring or omitting for his current thing... Pretty sad

[@johngulotta7951]

Joe Rogan's the best and Tucker and Smith

[@gonzalobilbao1367]

I think this should serve the good people in US to ask for a serious investigation about why Trumann decided to drop that bombs (why precisely over that Christian neighborhood?). If he was pressured by some group of heartless politicians, generals and/or businessmen (crazy scientists?). Tucker touched a nerve. Thanks a lot for that.

[@Quincy_Morris]

The nukes were dropped on industrial centers to limit Japan’s war production. It’s not complicated.

[@tankerd1847]

I don't think it's really worth raking Truman's corpse over the coals at this point. I sincerely doubt they targeted a church specifically, knowing that the bomb was going to eliminate the city. They looked at its strategic merits in terms of disabling Japan's war economy, and they probably looked at it as a flex against Stalin knowing the Cold War was coming. The past is in the past.

[@diogenes.]

There's someone doing something awful since 7 months, and all the time saying American did this America did that ..

[@johnjames5405]

What? 7 months? What are you trying to say?

[@diogenes.]

@@johnjames5405 im sorry man ,we had a Walter White Jesse Pinkman moment here ,my fault, there's someone I'll give you a hint ,his name rhymes with Yahoo, been doing awful things since October last year and every couple a days goes on tv saying America did this America did that ,Vietnam Dresden well what about Japan and so on .. i really think that's not ok ,you wouldn't on a personal level accept that from a close friend or even a family member

[@ufc5148]

Tucker Carlson is a real man 🔥

[@CellChaos-vw5pg]

I thought that until this channel started deleting all the comments that disagree with him

[@CoelhoSports]

On the one hand, the axis was very destructive to civilians. Even though only Japan was left, they were still refusing to surrender, and were still explicitly threatening to fight to the last man. Russia was also planning on invading Japan. Therefore... BOOM! and BIGGER BOOM! That war, like all wars, was unnecessary if peace was the goal, but peace is not the goal of many wars, so violence is necessary. How you win and how many of your own people you are willing to sacrifice along the way to accomplish that is all part of the debate when wars happen, and are subject to Monday morning quarterbacking after, but in America tucker should be able to say anything philosophical he wants, no matter how divorced from reality. Just don't click like or unsub if you want. He's just a guy talking about a war.

[@joshuawilson1407]

Stop cutting Dave off Tucker. Incredibly hard to listen to

[@burningdingo5247]

USA

[@sailpac]

There absolutely is "the lesser of two evils". You can be for AND against something at the same time. Humans ARE capable of that. That is all you had to say.

[@bobsagetsbastarddaughter4591]

“That is all you had to say”…are you the speech police? LMAO, get a grip.

He never said there wasn't. He said the act of dropping an atomic bomb on civilians is prima facie evil, and he finds it weird how many people on the right go out of their way to suggest they weren't acts of evil. If the bombs weren't prima facie, why so much fuss over Iran getting nuclear weapons?

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

The Americans force only two options upon me. Why would I be so st"pid to accept these conditions? There were many third options, many that the Americans did not like.

[@mymaster416]

Yup, that's why Americans sided with Soviets who by 1939 killed more than 10 million people, vs tens of thousands killed by Germans 👍🏻

[@tylerfthornton]

I’m getting sick of hearing debaters

[@waynedurning8717]

No this is disingenuous. If this is what Tucker said on Rogan and how he said it there would be zero pushback zero attention. What he did was much different. He laughed off his comment as he said it as if it were obvious (quintessential Tucker) that if you tried to justify dropping the bombs You too are evil. People have a right to think about these things (that happened a long time ago) for themselves and just because they haven't reached (maybe haven't Yet reached) the conclusions you have doesn't make them evil. I'm a big Tucker fan he was wrong here.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Because you are evil. You think vaporising children is good, therefore you are evil. Very simple yes?

[@TVAnthologyReviews]

Yep

[@pretorious700]

It makes them ignorant, not stupid. If you still haven't reached a conclusion as an adult, maybe remedial help is required.

[@waynedurning8717]

@@pretorious700 well that’s just dumb my man.

[@pendragon6449]

💯 mate!

[@kernelscout3077]

The decision to drop it saved potentially millions of american lives (and much more japanese lives) if we had to invade the mainland. People forget that the japanese at the time did not fear death(kamikaze attacks) it was an impossible choice and many innocents died, yet it saved lives. In war, you have to put the lives of your side first. Germany was the same to a lesser extent. The desperation on both theaters was unlike any war before it with kids being forced to fight for germany and japanese bayonet charges into american machine guns. Even at the end of the war the emperor never admitted defeat saying "the war has not developed in our favor" or something like that

[@cyberninjazero5659]

It didn't the U.S dropped the bomb to force an UNCONDITIONAL surrender. Which they still didn't get afterwards, the lie that it was to save lives is just that, a lie. The Japanese were ready to surrender with pretty much the same conditions that they surrendered to after the bombs dropped. It was a pointless act of evil that had a good PR campaign

[@pwndepot367]

The bombs were dropped as a warning to russia. Truman even bragged about it to Stalin before the bombs were dropped. It literally kick started the cold war. The real reason is pretty obvious.

[@bballjj18]

I think tuckers perspective on it is that whoever sends the nuke is playing god and taking many innocent lives by their own hands. It's a true statement

[@lucasgrey9794]

We were *never* going to invade Japan. Even Truman privately admitted that we were never going to attempt an invasion. The reason Japan surrendered was because the Soviets declared war on them.

[@cyberninjazero5659]

@@lucasgrey9794 To be fair being in the Soviet Union would've probably been worse for the Japanese than the nukes

[@pretorious700]

The rationalizations for the bombs vs. the extent of civilians killed is a fairly easy equation when considered morally.

[@derekkoonin3460]

I’m trying to understand what Dave Smith was insinuating and I think it’s disgusting. Correct me if I am wrong. It seems to me that what he said was that Israel should not destroy Hamas because of the civilian deaths where Hamas is purposely using them as shields to create the havoc around the world and blame Israel for being inhumane.

[@derekkoonin3460]

And I would like a response!

[@benjamincompson749]

Because the truth hurts

[@denroy3]

Ah, the truth. Which truth? Tgat Tucker told some childish point of view and didn't give any context? Tgat the loser he's talking with just invented absolute horse manure to agree with him? Don't talk about truth when you don't even know the subject.

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

@@denroy3 "Tucker told some childish point of view and didn't give any context?" Like?

[@lollo1042]

But russia fought the nazists and freed the jews too

[@cliff4695]

When Ben Shapiro disagrees with you, you know You're on the right side of things 😂😂.

[@diogenes.]

Why is this creature relevant to anything, what is his credentials??? He has a wire to tell America what to do who to hate we need this give me the money.. wth is going on America

[@denroy3]

That is the thoughts of someone with without any intellectual capacity. What a dumb statement. Are you capable of independent thought? Probably not.

[@pendragon6449]

Seriously, one of Tucker's worst takes, that's why he copt it... Simplifying it in the manner he did and labelling anyone who's opinion differed in the way he did was ridiculous and naive... Oh, and if they were already going to surrender before any bombs were dropped, why didn't the Japanese surrender after the 1st bomb was dropped... 🤔🤷

[@ybdum3229]

From the beginning of time, wars have been solders against civilians with opposing soldiers trying to stop them. This was true for both sides in WW2. After the war, the Allies declared "enlightenment" where militaries could only attack other militaries. The rest of the world does not see that as reality, because that is not human nature. While targeting civilians in war is indeed evil, that is the true nature of warfare.

[@georgedodd8022]

The most important thing in your life should be God and then your family.

[@westpac6954]

He says it himself, alot of this information is not widely known. What most of us heard was the planned invasion of japan would result in millions of people dead. Many of us had family members that would have been involved in this invasion. Strong reactions should be expected. I would like for Tucker to do a show that lays out the evidence of his claims. Or he could invite some WW2 expert historians and have a discussion over how the Pacific Campaign ended.

[@tankerd1847]

I think we can all admit that dropping the bombs, and the general Allied bombing campaign was ugly and should not be repeated if at all possible. But I am in complete agreement with you, people get fired up about it because so many people have fathers, grandfathers and great grandfathers who fought in the war. How many of our fathers who survived Europe, and who survived the Pacific would have died in an invasion of Japan? How many of us would have never even happened because of that? All of the "Well, the emperor was ready to surrender" speculation is just that. If we were the aggressors or if the Pacific wasn't an unfathomably brutal campaign, I would say dropping the bombs was wrong, but the best I can do is say that it was regretful that it had to happen that way. If Japan didn't want the horns they shouldn't have messed with the bull...

[@pendragon6449]

​@@tankerd1847 💯