My experience buying my first watch is applicable to this video. I walked into the AD planning on buying a Seamaster, but I didn't like the way it looked on my wrist when I tried it on. I loved the Speedmaster on my wrist, but I didn't want to pay over $6000 at the time. I walked out with a BB58 and am still very happy with my purchase three years later.
@boringoldman Жыл бұрын
Tudor makes watches closer to 50’s Rolex/Tudor. That’s what we really want. The closer y’all get to that, the more we will buy. Keep getting closer!
@Thomgxx100 Жыл бұрын
Ever heard of "Steinhart" ?
@jakealexander6046 Жыл бұрын
@@Thomgxx100not until you told me and I searched it. That’s why Doug will not gravitate to it.
@Thomgxx100 Жыл бұрын
@@jakealexander6046 Why? They can only go up in price. They are popular collectibles on the US market, and Sellita is one of Switzerlands most coolest independent watchmanufacturers ever. Buy low, sell high, is key to succes, Son, not snobbery!
@boringoldman Жыл бұрын
@@Thomgxx100 I have, yes. Not a horrible homage, but when my kid looks at pictures of me on adventures while young and sees that watch on my wrist and thinks, man, dad was a bad ass and he’s wearing a freaking Rolex/or (Tudor)!! he gave me…it just doesn’t sound as sexy when you go, oh, it wasn’t a Rolex, it was a Rolex look-alike 🤷🏻♂️
@mmohr1774 Жыл бұрын
Great statement
@Coggdaddy Жыл бұрын
What a great video that is IMO 100% accurate. I made my first “luxury” (>$1000) watch purchase a couple of months back when I purchased the Black Bay 54. I’ve always loved the Rolex Submariner, but that was out of the price range and the 40+mm case size was less than optimal, as I prefer 36-39mm cases. When the BB54 came out with the vintage submariner aesthetics in a 37mm case, it was perfection.
@kingofjakarta Жыл бұрын
I remember first time trying Tudor, the smiley black bay. It was so simple watch, not blingy but fit perfectly in wrist. It looked natural & blending well in wrist. When I wore omega, I can see I'm wearing omega, the watch pops out. Tudor just gave the natural feeling
@geno816 Жыл бұрын
I will say this.. Longines has been coming for Tudor lately. Making great watches
@dan4logic500 Жыл бұрын
The longine Spirit Zulu definitely says that
@geno816 Жыл бұрын
@@dan4logic500 I bought one last year. Picked it over the pro. I get compliments all the time
@aaronmauer7225 Жыл бұрын
I think longines needs to be more focused. Too many watches in their collection
@caseywai Жыл бұрын
Agree! Their recent 2-3 years release are amazing. They are filling in the gap for entry level luxury watches with great value
@youraveragepasser-by7367 Жыл бұрын
Heritage and gmt lines by them are amazing
@maxfaberg128 Жыл бұрын
Tudor isn't just popping out vintage style watches but also the pricing is vintage
@kyrilkaplan5011 Жыл бұрын
I think omega felt the bite I the ankles...and the response has been bad : they have raised their prices on existing models with no real innovation. Their idea was probably to be closer of rolex in term of prices, and hence to hope that will bring the luxury aura of Rolex. The problem is that all rolex wannabees are NOT watch enthusiast and thus will not put their money in a watch that is not a rolex. In the meantime, this raise, has cut themselves from the lower tier of their customers that can not spend so much on a watch...so where do they go ? Well Tudor is the next in line with a great value for money, in fact exactly what omega used to be a couple of years ago...and here we are : omega in the no man's land...As an omega hard core fan, I am really pissed by this situation...
@sigve6165 Жыл бұрын
@@kyrilkaplan5011this is a really good breakdown, they want to be Rolex, but dont have the right customers. Maybe if they cut down on production time will be nice to them
@Peter-tc3ep Жыл бұрын
@@kyrilkaplan5011 strange comment, many people that have Rolex’s like myself also have Omega’s and no Tudor’s. Tudor’s finish quality is so poor I have no interest in one, but yes I’m sure they are getting the “Doug” market since many non watch enthusiasts do not look at the details or movements. Personally think Omega has better finishing and movements then Rolex, Rolex has the cache and style for some of their watches which keeps them king of the mass market luxury brands.
@jakealexander6046 Жыл бұрын
@@Peter-tc3ep I never had an omega but I have a tudor and rolex. What sort of finishing is lacking from Tudor? Also do you like Grand Seiko? their dials are great and their finishing is good from what i’ve been hearing.
@dspserpico Жыл бұрын
The pricing is literally vintage. Like the Ranger’s price is almost exactly the 1960’s price of a Rolex Explorer but adjusted for inflation.
@dfsa635 Жыл бұрын
Thing about Tudor is they've successfully made themselves fun to root for. Rolex, Omega, Patek -- they always win. Why cheer for them? Longines is has the same vibe as Tudor. They make mistakes but you just feel good about it when they make something cool.
@MetalsForBrunch Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt compare Longines and Tudor because Longines have been making watches wayyyyyyyy before rolex and tudor started. Longines have its own vibe and value.
@arodbas Жыл бұрын
Longines is doing great, unbeatable at their price level.
@a-shaw-photo Жыл бұрын
It’s akin to buying a Porsche (arguably the Rolex of the car world?) and if you can’t afford it, you might go for a Mercedes Benz (Tudor) and still feel like you’re in a high tier. Longines might be more akin to VW. Still good, reliable, a well-designed workhorse…but not a Mercedes. Replace cars in this analogy as you see fit 😂
@MetalsForBrunch Жыл бұрын
@@a-shaw-photo you have a terrible comparison between watches and cars.
@a-shaw-photo Жыл бұрын
@@MetalsForBrunch Ha well, I did make a mistake as I was changing car brands a lot. Edited to remove the Audi. Not a great analogy 😂 In short, buy what you like, what you can afford, and ignore the haters. They’re all great watches. The end.
@davidmorris109011 ай бұрын
This is by far the best information on the internet. Why? One word: TRUTH. They don’t hold back and their insights are truly informative
@DudeEsq Жыл бұрын
Hmm - interesting comparison. Tudor gets outsold by Longines, Tissot and TAG. Rolex, Cartier and Omega are true industry titans. Omega and Tudor are not in the same class.
@tudors_down Жыл бұрын
I own several Tudors and an Omega so far. My feeling is that Tudor will not surpass them unless they reduce the thickness of their Black Bay line cases. And really, the snowflake hand needs to be smaller in width at the points. It's very chunky and reduces the refinement of the watch's appearance.
@spoonraker Жыл бұрын
When did you get your BB? I ask because Tudor _is_ reducing the BB's thickness. The first version of the 41mm BB that was thinner was the ceramic that was a bit of a niche watch, but now all the new master chronometers are thinner as well. Also the BB54 is thinner in addition to being much smaller overall. BB58 arguably was a step to get there too.
@GreenPizza577 Жыл бұрын
I also want the snowflake hand to be less prominent. It distracts from reading the time. The thickness could be thinner I think the 54 does it well. I don’t know if I’m the only one but I like the ranger, but it looks like a homage watch could scratch that itch. Oh, and don't hold me back on Omega.
@rickjason215 Жыл бұрын
Omega watches are thicker than Tudor. You have a useless, overly large helium release valve on the diver. Tudor's B01 chronograph is a better chronograph movement than anything Omega produces. Omega produces shiny watches with a low power reserve. I know they are the moon watch, and the Gearge Daniels escapement but highly overrated. Grand Seiko is also far superior.
@NKKK85 Жыл бұрын
The HEV is a simply a design feature. Just like the overly distracting and distorting cyclops, as well as the snowflake hands. Different ppl get triggered by different stuff. And whats the adage again? Oh, "it grows on you". 1 thing that is true though. Only 1 BB actually got thinner - and thats the single METAS BB41. The non METAS BB41s and BB GMTs are the same thickness. Maybe eventually they will thin out. The BB54 and 58 are thinner for sure, but arent METAS. Hence poorer accuracy, lower anti-magnetism. Generally, most Tudor divers are lower on specs as well. Lower on water resistance, regular dial surface, regular aluminium inserts on bezel, Pelagos line not withstanding. And thats arguably why they are easily cheaper as well. We havent even talk abt case finishing and movement finishing (because most non-geeks wldnt care anyway). Tudor's T-Fit clasp works well though - however isnt it very long just like the SMP's clasp? And if we are complaining abt watches being too thick. How do we even put the Black Bay chrono into the same conversation? Lastly. Watches worn on space flights have to be manually wound with ease, due to the uncertain nature of the absence of gravity affecting the rotor's consistency in powering up the watch reserve in space. Manual-wound watches are therefore simply more reliable - in space. *Manual-wound watches are best fitted with a push-down crown due to the nature of the wearer's interaction with the crown. A watch that is inherently not suited for a screw-down crown, because of its need to be a manual-winding piece, will not be rated to more than 50m water resistance. There are very few exceptions to the norm. The Speedy Pro was made to be a Moonwatch (after passing the legendary tests). Its purpose was to be manned space flight certified. Hence keeping the aforementioned specs are its priorities. Criticising the Speedy Pro for not having 100m water resistance is as off-tangent as criticising a GMT-bezel for being bi-directional. These equipment were developed for their intended purpose. *As to why watches with manual-wound movements are best fitted with push-down rather than screw-down crowns. You just need to research about the Panerai's initial developments with the Italian navy to see the problems with fitting a screw-down crown onto a watch with a manual-winding movement. That so-called "iconic" crown guard wasnt "iconic" by design nor intent. It was stop-gap measure to paper over a massive flaw in concept. You will never see that "iconic" crown guard in the same light again.
@tudors_down Жыл бұрын
Yeah my BB is the GMT, but they all have had (the 41mm) that slab-sided case. Even some beveling would help with the appearance of it. I did note the New burgundy heritage this year and looks like they're finally addressing it. The snowflake on the 54 is, IMO, how they should all look. Unfortunately i have big wrists so the 58 and 54 don't quite look like sports watches on me.@@spoonraker
@L2snakegold Жыл бұрын
I had a very similar experience to the scenario that you outlined. Not a watch guy and I wanted a submariner. Find out its basically unobtainable unless I want to spend 15k (grey at the time). Find out about BB58. NOT ONE BAD REVIEW ON KZbin. I wouldn't say it's the poor man's Rolex but it's the young professionals Rolex. Perfect watch as you join the workforce, out of college.
@dsvillalva Жыл бұрын
Great categorization. Not a poor man's rolex, but a watch for a younger and current generation that's relevant.
@mrCORSA Жыл бұрын
Spending $3k+ on a watch out of college is crazy HAHAHAH
@forgettmenot Жыл бұрын
@@mrCORSA Unless you worked hard and saved up quite a bit, or a humble trust fund kid
@brandonwebb1254 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always. I disagree with the premise that Tudor will eclipse Omega. I just don’t see it. I would feel as if I was settling if I bought a Tudor…but that is just me. In addition, I believe that Cartier watches eclipsed Omega in sales for the past three years according to the Morgan Stanley publication.
@SIZZO76 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Tudor is never surpassing Omega. These utubers no nothing. Tudor is a poor man’s Rolex 😂😂😂😂😂
@miabeatz80 Жыл бұрын
Tudor has only made marginal strides since the rerelease. All those designs from the 2010s from Tudor are not seen that much in the wild. The only real gem they have is the Tudor submariner IMO.
@BFit25 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree. It’s not close IMO.
@SIZZO76 Жыл бұрын
@@miabeatz80 I agree
@SIZZO76 Жыл бұрын
@@BFit25 I agree
@imtoddv Жыл бұрын
You guys killed it with this episode! I’ve been saying this for the last couple of years, only to be blasted by Rolex fanboys. Totally agree that Tudor is on a winning trajectory. Love the brand, and the fact that all of their watches are robust and built for life.
@cjdontthink2 Жыл бұрын
Loved the discussion about the women's watches as I'm trying to find my fiance a nice luxury automatic watch and it has been a struggle. Longines master collection almost won and the tudor 1926 is great too but no good two tone options, which is a requirement of the fiancé.
@joshuakaplan5726 Жыл бұрын
Having an Omega SMP 300M Diver, Tudor Black Bay Pro, and Rolex DJ36 (fluted bezel, jubilee bracelet, blue-fluted motif dial), I can honestly say all 3 brands are exquisite at what they do within their price range. Tudor is gonna continue to dominate with hits as Omega increases prices and starts to price out buyers. Add the METAS factor to Tudor and it's gonna be hard for people to justify between the two if they are unsure. But at the end of the day people will still buy what they love....only if they can afford it.
@seattlegrrlie Жыл бұрын
I love my BB58 in Blue. I think the Pelagos 39 is as close to a perfect watch as exists. Tudor is on the right path. I hope they keep walking it
@jpcskeff Жыл бұрын
Tudor BB 36 or 39 are epic watches, considering a Rolex explorer is almost double the cost in most cases. There’s never double the level of quality !
@chrishennemeyer7276 Жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that there are VASTLY more Omegas on the secondary market than Tudor, meaning you can buy many amazing Omegas for around $3k. Furthermore, there are lots of 39mm Speedy Reduceds and even 40mm ones for sale out there, in addition to the traditional 42s. Aqua Terras can be had in 34, 38, 38.5, and 41. So, I contend that Omega has at least as many size options as Tudor and far more interesting watches. I say that as an owner of four Tudors (but eight Omegas)!
@miabeatz80 Жыл бұрын
Bravo! Somebody gets it. People who complain about omega watch sizes will never buy one. They just want an excuse to why they aren't buying. Speedy is currently the same thickness as a submariner but Rolex owners still find something else to complain about. OMG no micro adjust 🤬
@mkyhou1160 Жыл бұрын
Those secondary market watches hurt Omega. They have damaged their lines with too many variants and special editions. Tudor isn’t perfect but they are listening to collectors providing what people are asking for, slimmer cases and more size options. I just picked up a BB 41 jubilee champagne, it’s basically a DJ without the date, slim and curvy case, it blows away Aqua Terra at lower price point. Omega is slipping behind.
@miabeatz80 Жыл бұрын
@@mkyhou1160 when you say it blows it away you must be talking about the way it fits. The finishing, movement, reliability and value retention of the AT is much better than the BB. IMO if Omega added a taper to the current AT it would be a near perfect watch.
@miabeatz80 Жыл бұрын
@@mkyhou1160 also you may wanna take a look at all those JCPenney looking watches Tudor have in their catalog that aren't BB. Honestly I wish Tudor didn't have so many Rolex homage watches and had an independent identity as well as done innovation. Omega has too many references but truth be told they are moving the most units next to Rolex while Tudor isn't even close to Hamilton in units.
@chrishennemeyer7276 Жыл бұрын
@@mkyhou1160 Look, both Omega and Tudor make excellent watches, as evinced by the fact that I own both. My point is simply that when Christian and Michael say that Omega doesn't have the size range of Tudor or that they are too expensive, they're talking through their collective behinds.
@snatched3630 Жыл бұрын
Kinda bummed you would suggest a Black Bay vs an Explorer, I think the Ranger from Tudor is a far easier pivot! I also think the Ranger is the first line that they can really push beside the black bay. I would get rid of the non-divers black bays in favor of a return of the princes and princesses if I was in charge!
@SpilkersKompass Жыл бұрын
Wait a second… Speedmasters are available in 38mm 39.7 mm 42 mm 43 mm 44.25 mm Is it then about the same look across the sizes?
@petrmilota6398 Жыл бұрын
I do own BB58 bronze boutique edition and FXD22 and I am hooked.. I would love to have a Rolex but I am not spending double above the retail and waiting for a year+ is annoying AF
@iamoctonate3 ай бұрын
Tudor having multiple sizes of identical watches is a huge pull for couples. I could go in with my partner and get a pair of Tudor 1926 watches, one at the 28mm size and one at 36mm. I have the choice of diamonds or numerals at the 3,6,9,12. And there is dial variety to choose from. Suddenly it becomes very easy for a couple to part with $8000 and leave the store with a his and hers watch.
@samuelholly3116 Жыл бұрын
How did we not bring up the new big block chrono movement from one watch? Speaking of other model lines...
@NationalParksArtist Жыл бұрын
Sample size of one, but my wife has an Apple watch, a Tudor BB 31 blue dial, and a Nomos Tangente 33. I'd say she wears 45% Apple, 45% Tudor, and 10% (at most) Nomos. I think for many women somewhere in the BB 31/36 or 54/58 range is about perfect.
@9elf Жыл бұрын
Hey guys. Interesting video as always but I have a friendly suggestion. Stop down your lens for a less shallow depth of field or move the focus point back a bit. When you ( Christian ) lean back you are out of focus and that happens a lot. Other than that, great as always. Cheers
@luisgabrielortiz2008 Жыл бұрын
Another great take! Wonderfully done gentlemen. Luis~ from Grand Caliber
@Theoriginalcoolguy Жыл бұрын
I bought a Tudor Black Bay basically because I couldn’t get a Rolex Submariner. I finally got a used Rolex Sub, and I ended up selling it and buying a Tudor GMT instead. Sometimes I think I should have just bought the GMT first and stopped there, but then I look at my Black Bay and I’m glad I still have it.
@Alexpress81 Жыл бұрын
if Tudor really listens - pls remove faux rivets from BB41 oyster. Ty )
@ErikL727 Жыл бұрын
Love and OWN both brands, but Tudor above Omega is delusions of grandeur. Omega has more watchmaking prowess, and they SHOULD. They made the first movement with interchangeable parts. They made watches that survived both World Wars. They made the first water resistant watch, and then AFTER all that, they went to the moon. Tudor can't take the risk of poking that bear via storytelling. Holding both in-hand, Omega displays better machining, finishing, movement architecture, and material science.
@SIZZO76 Жыл бұрын
These utubers Are delusional and they are getting kickbacks from Tudor. Tudor is never passing OMEGA Tudor is the poor man’s Rolex 😂😂😂😂😂
@thegraciefighter102 Жыл бұрын
At 2 x the price
@ErikL727 Жыл бұрын
@@thegraciefighter102 not by a Longshot. Is an Aqua Terra 2x as much as a smooth bezel Black Bay 41? 🤣
@DMSChannel15 Жыл бұрын
What Tudor model is on the videos thumbnail.
@aaronmauer7225 Жыл бұрын
I am trying to get the black bay with red bezel on a jubilee bracelet and all the stores near me said they are having issues getting enough stock of it. The ADs all told me they did not expect the new Tudor to be selling this well
@7aydar7aydar Жыл бұрын
I know its not gonna happen but if tudor makes the bb58 gmt pepsi they will break all numbers out there…
@jurepog Жыл бұрын
I can't decide if I want a Cartier tank must or a Tudor pelagos 39. I wan't both watches and will probably have both in the end but can't decide what to get first. If the cartier had 50m of water resistance I'd get that first and put it on a nice bracelet, but the cartier specs are weak af comparing to the tudor. Suggestions?
@RabbitWatchShop Жыл бұрын
The Tudor, because you can wear it everyday everywhere. The tank is a dress watch, but if you line of work requires a business dress code, go with the tank.
@waterfordrs22 Жыл бұрын
Tudor seems to have had a good year in terms of direction. That BB54 is a great example of honing the BB to its full potential. It won’t be for everyone except those in the know, but the BB54 needs to be there. That said, Tudor doesn’t offer the kind of range of watches that Omega offers, not even close. They’ve got the BB & Pelagos, the rest shows potential but take something like the 1926, very much in need of refresh. While it seems reasonable to see Tudor as nipping at the heels of Omega, other strong players are catching on to Tudor’s comfy corner of the market place. They likely recognize it’s a niche where a lot of people are able to spend a modestly sizable chunk of cheddar without a ton of guilt or remorse, find a lot of satisfaction, then continue the process off on to the next watch in due time. From around 3-5K things start getting pretty damned good. Now Longines, Oris, Baume et Mercier and others are starting to target that price point and things should get interesting. Personally, I love Omega, though out of 1600 SKU’s I might pay attention to a dozen at most. I don’t believe this quiet year can only signal trouble at Omega. I do wish Omega would focus on skimming down their watches. Look at what it did for the revived ‘57 Speedmaster. I own a Railmaster which I hear is on the cusp of being pulled from the line again- it’s a great wearing watch, way more impressive in person. Omega- trim the fat please. I’d love to see Omega find way to promote and develop their Globemaster. More offerings like the ‘48 Seamaster. Offer sone fine smaller better proportioned watches, that’s a hallmark of vintage watches, that can even be offered in a new design.
@TheAgeRating Жыл бұрын
Just got a green seamaster 300m and love it , the build quality is fantastic
@karbuckle8294 Жыл бұрын
I literally tried on a blackbay chrono shortly after they refined it… Was looking on KZbin for opinions and everyone loved it… I went back and bought the reverse panda later that week. Just how you said it happens! 😂
@eddiehe7454 Жыл бұрын
Tudor is my favorite watch brand last year and this year. Really hate how Rolex treat their customers nowadays, used to love them and always wanted to own another. I got my first submariner 10 years ago, it was an amazing experience.
@t.h.1982 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. Have two BB58s because the 39 works for me. Also love my 39 Explorer and 39 SeaQ. Considering the 39 Pelegose but not wild about the sunburst dial. I would love the Ed White Speedy size, but don't want to pay crazy money for a Speedy. If I go with a normal Speedy, it is 42.; which is not in my size range. I think your point.
@fearmydoctor84 Жыл бұрын
Purchased a new pelagos 39 from AD. Piss poor quality control with regards to movement and bezel lume. Tudor customer service is some of the worst I have dealt with. Realized I bought it because of all the online praise, but in person it is a very underwhelming watch, and then the subsequent problems with it means I am pretty much done with Tudor.
@AlSiguenza Жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the best videos you guys have have made. Great content
@Mark-d6o Жыл бұрын
I own a Tudor and an Omega. I'm good on Tudor's but I can think of 6 more Omega's that I want.
@Mans1810 Жыл бұрын
Having different sizes foe the same watch is a huge differentiator. Im stunned Omega doesnt get it especially with the Aquaterra. How come there is no 36mm Aquaterra. It's crazy to me. Finally went for the OP36 despite trying the 38mm Aquaterra many times and trying to convince myself that itns the one.
@IrishScribbler Жыл бұрын
Because there’s already a 38mm and a 41mm Aqua Terra 🤦🏻
@tdude129 Жыл бұрын
Where’s Christian’s shirt from though????
@anthonyb2990 Жыл бұрын
You want what you want and you should never compromise. I know every Tudor model and since they're half the price as a Sub and much easier to obtain at retail I looked into them. Ultimately it would be a mistake for me to buy one because every time I would look down at the time I would think to myself "oh I settled, that's not my grail watch."
@mrosleeahmad5394 Жыл бұрын
what does a curator of a podcasr mean anyway
@timmyhexham9603 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Tudor Pelagos 42. Love it. So many people comment about it.
@stuartizon Жыл бұрын
Thing is, Tudor is all Black bay these days, almost as much as AP is a Royal Oak company. I guess you could call it a unified design language, but to me it seems that Tudor makes one watch in various sizes/bezels. And if you like that style then great, and if you don't you buy elsewhere. We all know Omega makes too many variants of the Speedmaster, but at least it's distinct from the Seamaster/Aquaterra/Constellation etc
@miabeatz80 Жыл бұрын
That part! Also Omega has a heritage of unique designs not homage designs from the parent company.
@markdegaute2125 Жыл бұрын
Tudor need to fully convert the domed bezel Black Bays into a Datejust style watch by introducing Stick and a Roman markers. Then they should change the name to "Prince"
@thor_86 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos and would gladly watch one every single day. You guys should bring these out more than you already are
@mewdawn917 Жыл бұрын
Tudor also has the liberty to be much more experimental, providing a sense of innovation that Rolex later adopts. From using more niche case materials to aggressively changing the design of the Pelagos or producing outright novel models (P01). It's an easy winner for anyone that likes the Rolex design, quality and looks just packaged in a different brand and style.
@ads-porewealth96 Жыл бұрын
I really regret buying the black bay gmt … it’s just so thick.. looks all high up and silly on the wrist … I know you didn’t ask or anything….
@miabeatz80 Жыл бұрын
I remember when the black Bay first released in the late 2010s and I tried them on. Hockey puck on the wrist. I also couldn't get over the fake rivets which are not a flattering design choice. All of their gold watches look like they are gold plated 🤮
@Cmdtheartist Жыл бұрын
Nico chimed in on this, too. Having said that, taking into account my own financial situation, we might as well be talking about real-estate prices on Mars.
@andrewgiblin3468 Жыл бұрын
Surprised with your comment about there isn't a Speedmaster for you, unless you just mean new models. I'd think a Mark 40 Triple Date would be perfect size for what you like?
@JenniferMcGlone Жыл бұрын
I'm a female fan! And I collect vintage watches. You can ask me. But maybe I'm so unusual (in the 3% of your audience) that my opinion doesn't matter/isn't representative. Personally, I like vintage Omegas (they are smaller than current Omegas, most of which would never fit my 6.5 inch wrist), and I have three of them. Not likely to buy a Tudor, though, unless it is for my son. As Christian said, I want something more playful, more fun. I feel like I could find that in a vintage but quirky Cartier (like a wooden dial Tank), an Omega, or a Universal Geneve, or a watch from the "Grand Seiko vs King Seiko" showdown era, but not a Tudor. Sorry Tudor fans, please don't come for me! But hey, they don't need me or my demographic. They are killing it and I am the unusual one.
@SethCohen1 Жыл бұрын
The new Tudor Blackbay Burgundy 5 link is beautiful
@marcsmith-wl9pw Жыл бұрын
As I sit here with my new Seiko 5GMT I totally still want the Tutor Pro.
@emiliezc Жыл бұрын
I totally agree that they need a perfect women’s watch! I personally own a BB32 smiley and it’s beautiful but I would totally get another. Or even bring back the lady sub, that would be cool
@Spook291 Жыл бұрын
Tudor isn’t a Rolex company, Tudor and Rolex are both owned by the Wilsdorf Foundation. Rolex doesn’t own Tudor.
@tonyrome655 Жыл бұрын
There was a smaller Speedmaster, the Speedmaster Reduced.
@miabeatz80 Жыл бұрын
Exactly and it didn't sell and still isn't selling to all the people who want smaller. It's just the way Rolex fans constantly move the goalpost. 😂 Besides they don't make a submariner in all said variants. Only reason Tudor does it is because the black Bay is the only model that consistently sells so the have to exploit that. Let's face it they don't seem to be able to make a brand new non homage design that sells in a major way.
@canadianwatchmonkey3992 Жыл бұрын
My wife loves the BB32 silver dial it would be great if they made the 32mm in more feminine coloured dials
@emiliezc Жыл бұрын
Yes i totally agree!
@mattw1406 Жыл бұрын
Surely it is easier to direct from a Rolex towards an Omega than towards a Tudor? Redirect to Tudor “you can’t get hold of a Rolex so have cheaper, less good version”…… or “Omega is as good as Rolex in terms of quality and technology (if not better) and is actually something you can choose over a Rolex without feeling short changed”
@davenordsieck6444 Жыл бұрын
My wife isn’t that into watches (so I’m her watch sommelier). She’s got an Apple Watch, Cartier Tank Solarbeat, the Longines moon phase you showed, a 38mm teal dial Seiko 5, and a DJ31 steel and YG fluted/jubilee. I could not get her at all interested in Tudor, even though I really like Tudor and have one myself.
@ams914 Жыл бұрын
I think Tudor should employ exhibition case-backs and invest in some fine decoration. That would help close the gap between them and Omega from a visual appearance point of view. I get that closed case-backs are consistent with vintage styling, but I think the average consumer would appreciate it.
@EDHBlvd Жыл бұрын
They had at least 3 watches with exhibition case-backs. The BB58 925 and gold. The BB Ceramic. They may have more. I think the reason they don’t do this more is their movement isn’t very decorated.
@NKKK85 Жыл бұрын
They cld go exhibition caseback. But they would have to invest a lot more in movement finishing. The combination of those 2 upgrades would all but close away the $2k gap in their price tag against a comparable Omega piece - and along with that, Tudor's most enticing selling point against Omega as well. Keeping materials cheaper, case finishing simpler, movement finishing industrial, is how Tudor stays cheaper.
@jaykwonzzz Жыл бұрын
Maybe for some models, but the dive watches are very tool-ish. Putting an exhibition case back on them removes that.
@ams914 Жыл бұрын
How so? I've heard that argument before but don't buy it. Omega Planet Ocean models have display backs and insane depth ratings. We're in the modern age. A sapphire crystal pressed against your wrist is not going to be an issue in the water, IMHO. I'm sure technically it's more at risk of an issue, but in reality, I don't think that would ever happen@@jaykwonzzz
@lonewolfemcquade8133 Жыл бұрын
@@jaykwonzzz I have to agree 👍 I don't care about a open case back on a dive watch and prefer a solid case back. It just feels like its trying to be something it isn't. Now a Zenith El primero with a open case back is a different story and own one. Even though I probably looked at the movement only once or twice lol and it really doesn't feel like something I "Have to have"
@robcarrier1969 Жыл бұрын
If you look at a 1980s TAG Heuer catalogue they used to make a lot of watches in three different sizes, some even in 4 different sizes. I can't understand why they can't do this these days, and I mean identical... not the 43mm has a ceramic bezel the 40mm, is steel, all the same.
@danielpolgar2365 Жыл бұрын
I just want to know the story behind Michael's "piszkos gyerek" tattoo on his arm as I'm watching this video from Budapest :D lol
@rtylerjames Жыл бұрын
You caught me with a possible purple black bay or even a pelagos..... Stop toying with me. Yes purple is the next color to take off.... Stop baiting me with my favorite color.
@blakehirsch1022 Жыл бұрын
"Tudor is going to surpass Omega." Yeah, no. Tudor will forever live in Rolex's shadow as the Rolex homage brand.
@johnrudzinski3217 Жыл бұрын
I have a new Rolex Airking, a Tudor BB54, Omega Aqua terra and a new Green Seamaster 300. I love them all but my BB54 is one I just can't take off.
@beermansf9791 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a Tudor Pepsi GMT on a leather strap. Awesome watch
@kc2sc Жыл бұрын
Holding out for a 41MM, blue bezel/dial on jubilee bracelet. I think that would be beautiful watch. Who knows...Maybe next year?
@shannoncarnahan4238 Жыл бұрын
Christian, please answer your emails. I’ve sent two of them that have not been responded to. I’m having problems with a band that was incorrectly sent.
@sherwindelapaz530211 ай бұрын
In my honest opinion, Omega is closer to overtaking Rolex than Tudor is to overtaking Omega. Let’s not push that Tudor catching up to Omega narrative please. Tudor is Longines level if we are being realistic. 💯
@beyoncehadoneofthebest Жыл бұрын
what is the eggplant watch in the thumbnail? i can hardly see it on my phone
@tom56340 Жыл бұрын
Fellas what about a live Q&A? that would be awesome
@jadomi2076 Жыл бұрын
Could it be that Tudor, like Rolex aren't actually for watch enthusiasts but for common people to no brainer purchase?
@Huwberts_Emporium Жыл бұрын
I would also argue that the Moonswatch was damaging to the Omega brand, obviously it's hard to quantify just how much of an impact it had but I for one took the Speedmaster off of my shopping list after it's release.
@miabeatz80 Жыл бұрын
Google it. They've reported that speedy sales have gone up by 50% since the moonswatch.
@SIZZO76 Жыл бұрын
That’s makes no sense 😂😂😂😂 Tudor fanboy spotted 😂😂😂😂
@Huwberts_Emporium Жыл бұрын
@@SIZZO76 Enjoy your plastic watch mate
@SIZZO76 Жыл бұрын
@@Huwberts_Emporium Enjoy your TUDOR THE FAKE ROLEX 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@SIZZO76 Жыл бұрын
@@Huwberts_Emporium ENJOY YOUR TUDOR THE FAKE ROLEX MATE😂😂😂😂😂
@44daggers44 Жыл бұрын
Again, I wish to know where Christian’s shirt is from…
@leemurovec24 Жыл бұрын
a&f sell these kinds of shirts
@bigmacdaddy1234 Жыл бұрын
Charlie Sheen - bowling shirt from Two -and a Half Men.
@MarketingGuy Жыл бұрын
@44daggers44 Michael recently made a video on his own channel (The Iron Snail, or something like that) about shirts. I‘m pretty sure he mentioned that brand (they make all kinds of different vintage reproductions). Hope you find your answers there.
@word42069 Жыл бұрын
I know it’s not the “poor man’s Rolex” anymore… but I still see it as the entry level Rolex. I’m saving up for a Datejust of some formulation but who knows, maybe I’ll cave and just buy the BlackBay Pro this weekend.
@daveschreiber2749 Жыл бұрын
Y'all talking like there isn't a smaller or different color dial Speedmaster...there are several
@arnoldsevilla2557 Жыл бұрын
The Tudor big block in your collection is where it’s at. 🔥
@MorganTame Жыл бұрын
Fantastic discussion!
@jackflowers999 Жыл бұрын
How about a GMT Blueberry Tudor for next year? ( on jubilee bracelet)⭐️🤙
@pendergasti2744 Жыл бұрын
I am the verge of making a watch purchase in the Omega & Tudor realm. I am leaning towards the Omega for a couple of reasons. The first reason I like the Omega over the Tudor is the dial, bracelet, and clasp on the Seamaster 300 over the Tudor Dials and T-fit clasp. The second reason I like the Omega better is the lack of a poor mans Rolex antidote. The small differences in the Omega features are worth the 2K price difference.
@IAMAWESOMEO3000 Жыл бұрын
Owner of a speedy and seamaster here (felt it is important to note this :D). The type of people that consider Tudor the poor man's Rolex, more often than not also consider Omega to be that... if you can walk in an AD and buy the watch for less than a Roley, you're not rich enough for a Roley... It's only watch nerds like us that can appreciate and respect all 3 brands but also see their flaws. Always pick the watches you love! Don't be unnecessarily loyal to a brand, it's allowed to be part of multiple :D
@PabloTBrave Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you have decided you want an omega . Great choice I'm a pelagos LHD owner myself. You shouldn't be listening to the idiots who think Tudor is a poor man's Rolex most don't have a clue. You should be buying the watch you want their opinion is irrelevant, they can buy whatever they want too
@a-shaw-photo Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter which you pick bud. Buy what you like, not what others say is good or whatever. Tag, Longines, Tudor, Omega, Rolex, Zenith, Patek, Breitling, Ball, Vulcain…Et cetera. They are all extremely capable of telling the time and being serviced. Which do you like on your wrist? That’s all that matters. No-one else in your life will give a toss. I’ve owned modern Omega, Tudor, Rolex, JLC…all sold after experiencing them. No one cared but me. No one matters to be frank, but me and my opinion. If owning an Omega is part of your goals, then do it! But, don’t be sad if you don’t buy one because you prefer a Longines, or a Tudor, or a Casio!
@TommyRibs Жыл бұрын
There are smaller Speedmasters. They are actually really nice.
@joemorris2964 Жыл бұрын
Bought my wife a tudor royal 38mm. Looks really good on her, i think that is Tudors womans watch although I am aware men can wear it. I also own a Tudor Harrods Black Bay and an Omega planet ocean. Both great watches. Omega seems slightly more refined but costs a lot more.
@anamisidro8453 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what other women like but I like automatic watches between 36 and 38mm; brands with some History attached and good reliable movement. That’s why I struggle because most brands don’t respect us as truly watch enthusiasts and offer quartz versions plenty of diamonds and horrendous color choices. My 3 watch collection: Rolex explorer; Tudor BlackBay 36 and Cartier Santos. Thanks for the video ❤
@fullymechanical9055 Жыл бұрын
"Men's" watches look great on women, so as part of the watch fam, at least there are options. Unisex watches aren't there yet I feel. Cheers
@emiliezc Жыл бұрын
Nothing makes me more upset than seeing the women’s watches downgraded with a battery! Ugh! Also i know wearing men’s watches is always an option but I feel like we deserve our own space in the market. Cool watch collection too!
@anamisidro8453 Жыл бұрын
@@emiliezc spot on
@Ride_on54 Жыл бұрын
And it’s the Pegalos that will do it its definitely growing on me especially that matt finish it’s just something different compared to the submariner and all the shiny style watches
@benlau4026 Жыл бұрын
Surpass omega in sales of one model. BB what else do they have? It’s a narrow perception
@neilkwok Жыл бұрын
I love the Omega brand - their story, history, etc...is great. Unfortunately their watches just don't appeal to me (a person with small wrists). Their movement is just too chunky and dial size variations are limited.
@richardweir3342 Жыл бұрын
How in the Hell could Tudor surpass Omega, in Unit sales maybe, the same as swatch outsells Patek, but Tudor can not compete with Omega in Quality or Horology. They make basic watches. No real inovation
@romanopeterj Жыл бұрын
I just traded in a 4 year old Omega 300M Professional for a brand new Tudor BB 58 (I have 7 inch wrist). I absolutely love the weight and look of the BB 58. I’m even considering a blue Tudor Royal 41 Date day as a next purchase.
@michaelriera6277 Жыл бұрын
I was recently in a similar situation with having to decide between an Omega Seamaster Diver 300 and a BB58 black. I went back and forth but ultimately went for the BB58. It just looks so good and wears so nice.
@bradfoley8874 Жыл бұрын
No comparison when holding an Omega vs Tudor
@markb1935 Жыл бұрын
20:50 Christian Zeran said, fuck 😮😆
@dan4logic500 Жыл бұрын
I’m 5 years I see Tudor just releasing more BB but also more Pelagius. They might bring something out of left field but it won’t take off further then release day
@craigwoolbert2443 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff guys
@Tockahontas Жыл бұрын
TBH Longines is killing it ATM...most interesting prestigious watch Brand at around 3 to 4k right now
@eddieg849 Жыл бұрын
They should make a tudor with a Rolex crown and Chase back like they did when they first came out that would be awesome
@jrwitherite1211 ай бұрын
Omega is also the bond watch.
@varthdader12 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone's told you two this, but Omega has been to Earth's moon. I think I spelled that correctly, "moon" In all seriousness, I like seeing what Tudor is doing with the 54 that warms me up closer to the brand. Omega's biggest feather in their cap to compete is the anti-magnetism -I think- which matters in the world of electronics and such. Does it impress enough people to choose Omega though?
@MarketingGuy Жыл бұрын
They both use anti magnetic hairsprings. Not sure where another difference in anti magnetism is. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I think Tudor is just really shitty in communicating the anti-magnetism.