Tudor.. Major Issues. Should You Buy One ? Black Bay Chronograph

#tudor #blackbay #tudorwatch #tudorpanda
Today I'm sharing my story about the issue my new Tudor Panda is having...If your on the fence please watch this and the countless others on KZbin..
MODEL# M79360N-0002

[@scottwexlin6456]

I own the Reverse Panda, purchased new from my AD July 2021. Three months later, in October, I was using the chrono, and both pushers stopped working. No click, nothing. The chrono was running, and the watch was running, but I could not shut off, nor reset the chrono. Took it back to my AD, they sent it in under warranty. Two months later, in December, got it back. Been fine since, but truthfully, I almost never use the chrono function.

[@Theewatchdad]

Thanx for the view and comment. Once I get it back I’ll prob never use the chrono function again 😂

[@DA_Karas]

What frustrates me most about this is that Tudor gets a pass on all these issues yet Tag Heuer (or name another company) gets absolutely trashed for everything. I can't think of another brand that released a defective movement to customers (the GMT datewheel issue). That should have been a reputation killer yet the big watch channels all gave the same message that this was typical of new movements (no, it definitely is not!) Tudor has raised their prices to ~$5K and deserves this scrutiny because it's a lot of money. Another point is that Longines is competing for the same kind of customers yet they are depicted as lower quality by many watch channels despite never having these qc issues yet Tudor is given all this publicity despite having only the Black Bay as a hit. It's interesting to see how people depict certain brands and shows that despite all the intellectualizing we do, it's still very much an emotional purchase.

[@Andy-ys8sj]

You do realise that's the term brands is from the branding irons that used to be on livestock to stop people stealing your property. So by wearing brands which we all do is telling these companies that you are allowing yourself to be livestock. Just saying

[@tessdejesus3375]

Send it back and get a new replacement under warranty

[@SB-Kiwi]

Shit happens. They'll fix it. I wouldn't freak out too much mate.

[@robbstone5866]

I had the same issue with my reverse panda chrono. I brought it back to Rolex, waited 5 weeks and was presented with a new scratch in the case and the same misaligned hand. Could not be bothered to bring it back again so in the end, I sold it. I have a Speedmaster and I never had an issue. Even after 14 years, it runs and aligns perfectly. Good luck with the repair 👍

[@ShawnDeLaCruz]

I have that same problem with my Tudor Chrono. It's not as much as yours, but it's not directly over the line like I expected from a $5k watch. Also when I set the time, the minute hand moves a little when I push the crown back in making it hard to get an exact minute hand position.

[@erickruse4679]

I had the S&G Chrono and I noticed it was a quarter second off to the left one day. I freaked out, and as I was handling it and turning it different directions, the second hand shifted a quarter second too far to the right. There was play in the second hand. I assumed that was normal for this watch and didn't think anything of it. Got a reverse panda today and there's no play. Another difference between the two is the crystal. The S&G had a super smoky ring around the edge of the crystal, thought that was normal since I saw other people commenting on it. Thought it made the watch look really cheap. Got rid of the watch for that reason. The reverse panda i just got has no smokiness in crystal unless I shine a flashlight on it at a very specific angle, very different appearance. I'm thinking they have gone through some production phases and are doing some Kaizen over there, that's my take. Current watch seems better in those two ways, but we'll see what happens. did you try doing a little shake of the watch to see if the second hand bounces back? My Omega Speedmaster Master Chrono had no play, and it definitely made the Tudor seem cheap. I thought the Tudor was really premium until I got that Omega on my wrist and it was much nicer. However, got rid of that for being too blingy. This reverse panda Tudor is where it's at, even though it isn't on the same level as the Omega. I got rid of the Omega.

[@Supercruze]

I feel for you on this issue. Hang in there. Watches are complex mechanical devises and things can and will go wrong. No watch company is perfect with zero defect otherwise they would not offer a warranty. Cars are the same. The best cars in the world have issues and recalls. No different with a mechanical watch. I suspect the sweep hand tube may have slipped slightly on the center pinion under a possible hard reset from the bottom of the dial. Likely will just have a new sweep hand installed and set and you will be good to go.

[@aom6301]

A couple of years ago I was at the AD about the pull the trigger on the Tudor panda and didn’t because I saw the chronograph hand would not reset exactly to 12 o clock position so didn’t buy. I have a Pelagos FXD and it’s already been to Tudor twice in a year. When setting time the hacked second hand jumps like it is catching and the bezel action is awful. It’s not a Rolex. First and last Tudor.

[@jazzman5598]

Just subbed. I have had some BAD watch experiences so after 4 months of non- stop wear my new TAG HEUER Glass Box Carrera……blue, tri-compax, date at 6:00. Runs 4 hrtz and 39 mm. It will take awhile to get comfortable. It was close to $7K USD but man, it’s gorgeous and so far, no problems. Give the new Carreras a look. Fine vid. I do not own a Tudor……yet. :-)

[@Theewatchdad]

@@jazzman5598 thanx a ton man. Appreciated

[@Trip2Shiesty]

I’ve seen videos on KZbin how to reset it if it does this maybe you should give it a try

[@erikhernandez1742]

Been enjoying my BB monochrome, no issues. Not to gloat but to offer varying opinions

[@adrianhargreaves2854]

I’ve had one for ages pretty much since it came out and it’s perfect. I am a Tudor fan but if something went wrong which it definitely can, I’d just send it back for repair. I’ve a Tudor bb gmt with a misaligned bezel but it doesn’t bother me enough to send it in. Actually, if I’m passing, I might just do that😂😂 I’m moving to omegas again as I’ve re fallen in love with the speedmaster. Still going to keep the bbs in my collection. Good luck with it. Suck it up and get it in .

[@LRSTGS]

I had this issue with my Speedmaster. I sent it off and got it fixed, it came back and a few weeks later happened again. It really put me off Omega so I can imagine how you're feeling with the Tudor. I now have a Nivada Grenchen Chronomaster Aviator Sea Diver to scratch my chronograph itch instead. I do own a Tudor Pelagos which I've had zero issues with...I think some of it is luck of the draw, but it shouldn't be happening to any watches in these price brackets really.

[@CarlosGambino_22]

we don't believe you..

[@dainluke]

Vertical clutch chronographs can be left running with no additional strain on the movement 😅. Just a fun piece of trivia. Seiko is guilty of the same thing.

[@Theewatchdad]

Appreciate the comment, thanx for watching

[@mrlong6267]

I’ve owned a Hamilton jazz master chrono and that watch is build like a tank…15 years no service on the winder all the time and it runs perfect. On the same note, my Speedmaster, Seamaster professional 300, Tudor BB GMT, and Breitling galactic 41 zero issues…but my steinhart and Squale did have many issues when I first got them. Luckily Gnomon who sold them to me serviced it and since then no problems. Hope you get yours sorted out asap. I know that feeling, it makes you uneasy

[@user-uh1os1cn9o]

My Tudors are perfect, BB58 and Pelagos 39. I think it’s wearer error! lol Jk. Chronos are more complicated so there’s always more things that can go wrong, but that said my Speedy is perfect. Same for my $200 Citizen chronograph I’ve had for a decade

[@CarlosGambino_22]

my pelagos lume pip fell out

[@ahsan101]

Ive heard good things about the Zenith El primero movements. I believe they used to supply the old gen rolex daytona's. A bit more expensive then tudor tho

[@Redondo_dom]

I've seen speedys having the same issues

[@wristcandy5451]

It's sad when the fakes with mecca quartz movements are better than the original

[@alex5471]

Tudor movements and QC are abysmal, sorry to hear about this, but I’m not surprised it happened… us watch fans just don’t hear about these issues because the Tudor fan base is just extremely elitist and pretentious about not being pretentious, and will refuse to acknowledge any faults with their favorite brand.

[@Theewatchdad]

I’m confused by this lol. Im a realist. We all have our fav brands right but I can call a spade a spade. Tudor is not Rolex. Nowhere near it. And the Tudor fan boys seem to think they are. Tudor isn’t even in the top 15 in watch sales. I love my panda and when I get it back I hope I don’t have any other issues. Tudor will never pass Omega or even Cartier in popularity and sales so I don’t really understand why these people act like Tudor is elite

[@alex5471]

@@Theewatchdad Totally agree with your thoughts I definitely think the elitism stems from wanting to stand out from the "normal" watch consumer crowd that pretty much only knows about Rolex. Thus, they cling onto lesser known, niche brands like Tudor as a means of identity and pride whilst disparaging Rolex. Of course, as you know very clearly by now, the great irony in all of this is that Tudor is literally Rolex's inferior sister brand, and that their Kenissi-based movements are EXTREMELY unreliable and prone to errors. At the end of the day, I have no gripe with Tudor or people that buy Tudor; just the elitists, because they don't acknowledge or call out the many issues their watches have, leave prospective buyers in the dark about legitimate issues, and are extremely defensive and critical those that try to bring these issues to light. More people need to call out Tudor on their faults such as yourself, because they are very prevalent. I hope your watch gets better 👍

[@Theewatchdad]

@@alex5471 thanx for watching and for the comment. Well said sir.

[@romey891]

Lol Chronos always make me panic when actuating that this will happen!

[@wingi7722]

May I ask which movement your particular Tudor js running? Is it the Modified Breitling B01 as found in the Red Bull Racing Pelagos Chronograph?

[@Theewatchdad]

Yes it’s the MT5813 based on the B01 movement.

[@GOODSTONE777]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@wurmhat1501]

With the quality of lower end watches being what they are, The more mid range watches are starting lose appeal to me. Not sure if anyone else feels this way.

[@evh4611]

My both 58's had misaligned bezels.

[@EricZ726]

Got a Pepsi GMT from my Rolex AD last May. The hour hand is off by 5 minutes. It’s a misalignment.

[@NKKK85]

Been contemplating a Carrera glassbox or this. I guess this video settles it. 😂 i had this issue with my Luminox Atacama 1942 - but it was a Luminox anyway, so I just kept it away in my box for memory sake. This BB Chrono isnt that affordable (and isnt meant to be).

[@TheLuchoo64]

I want an Omega, which one do you recommend?

[@Theewatchdad]

That is a very tough question to answer

[@Theewatchdad]

@@IDKline I will say the one that I wish I had. The seamaster 007 Spectre watch. That one is a beauty

[@brianchatelain9587]

Good man

[@Daniel-kd4fr]

I bet it happens with all chrono watches time to watch despite the price. Just 1 of those things. The tolerances of these kinda things are soo small.

[@Daniel-kd4fr]

Possibly you’re right, but then not everyone post videos on social media.

[@richardoconnor6428]

All chronograph watches do this, you can manually reset the hand individually to to align perfectly, every now and then they may be out a second or two but you just realign it.

[@Theewatchdad]

Wrong

[@richardoconnor6428]

No not wrong, I've done more training on Tudor watches than you have I'm sure and the problem our man is describing is an easy self fix as I explained. The problem Tudor had with this particular watch was fixed for the newer batches, the earlier batches had an issue. If this guy contacts me directly I'll talk you through the fix, piece of cake 1 minute job.

[@Theewatchdad]

@@richardoconnor6428 my watch is November 2023. It’s new. Tell me. How does one get the chrono hand to reset to a different position???

[@richardoconnor6428]

Follow the link I've posted. Let me know if it works. I have other ways if that fails.

[@richardoconnor6428]

Did the advise I gave you fix your watch?

[@skivailfast]

You really think they have nothing to do with each other 😂

[@Theewatchdad]

It’s a gimmick lol. So what if they’re owned by the same foundation. Swatch Group owns both Omega and Tissot and 100 other brands. What does Omega have to do with Tissot ? Back in the day yes Tudor used Rolex parts but in the present?? What’s the connection ? I recommend you watch this guys video also for more info. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2K8n3ivi6aDedksi=k3ZoQCHoNs5_Lh1F

[@swissmade1497]

I owned a BB58 navy, I got bored of it immediately, it is not luxury level

[@garydoherty600]

I have a speedy - 2 years old - no problems. But having said that I’ve owned a first generation BB chronograph and currently have a BB 58 blue and a BB 58 silver case and never had a problem. I guess any watch can let you down - but Tudor do seem to have too many issues and need to up their game.

[@martinwilliams9098]

Every brand will have the odd issue from time to time ,even Rolex sorry guys!

[@emmanuelrodriguez5044]

No Tudor for me in my collection, far too many problems and complains from other fellow collectors.

[@cookingwithwatches]

It’s not a QC issue. Tudor does this on purpose.

[@ahojnazdar3656]

I completely understand how annoying this is. But generalizing individual occurrence to whole brand issue is immature. Nothing in this world is perfect. Give the timepiece back to Tudor and they will fixi it. Grow up!

[@alex5471]

Tudor has had so many quality issues with their watches across the board. A quick search will show you a bunch of incidences in which even hour markers/indices have fallen off!

[@AH-sn9sl]

@@alex5471 “a quick search” will give you repair cases for every watch brand. The OP is correct. Using a single watches problems to paint an entire brand is not just immature, it’s a logical fallacy.

[@Francisyrah]

It’s good that this issue is shared!!! Too much hype on this brand

[@CarlosGambino_22]

Tudor way overrated