Love the follow-up :) Russian navy cadets happened... Jokes aside, it was the quick turn that got the tug in trouble. Once the Kruzenstern started to accelerate and turn I guess the only option to attempt to right the situation would have been to reverse at full steam until the tug lines back up behind it. However that's easier said than done: you would be reversing into the big ship's wake which opens up a whole new can of worms. At the very least the tug would get pushed away, if it gets too close that's an even greater risk, especially if the line starts slacking. So idk if any halfway sane tug captain would even attempt that. All things considered, the only way out was to cut the line, they obviously did not really need that tug any more at that point, with open water ahead. Would love to hear the radio exchange though :)
@BoatAfloat3 жыл бұрын
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@Swath7003 жыл бұрын
In hindsight, the safest option would have been turn the tug to port and pace the training ship, as there appears to be plenty of sea room to make such a maneuver. This would have allow more time to deal with letting go the line without needing to cut. The line is through a forward port side chock and it’s understandable that the personnel on deck were distracted by the crowd to port. Don’t forget there are “cadets” on deck at the receiving end of the whiplash, albeit the energy would have likely dissipated by along such a lengthy section of rope against sea and hull. The tug could have use this time pacing the training ship to radio the pilot & master, who are ultimately responsible for knowing they are tethered to a ship-assist vessel and should not have allowed the crowd to distract them until they were cast off from all tugs.
@twinpotracer2 жыл бұрын
@@Swath700 absolutely not. You can not pace a vessel that size with a Damen 14 tug Launch. The 'tug' was absent of a gog-line. Which prevents capsize when winched right in. The blame lays solely on the skipper of the launch, not positioning himself correctly. If there was a gog-line, he could have taken all way off, sat there quite comfortable being towed astern by the ship. From there made contact with the vessel to slow down and drop the tow when in open water or safe area to do so. This, unfortunately, is a regular occurrence on these launches.
@janisrcdronepilot14054 жыл бұрын
In this particular case the “girting” of the tug was caused due to sudden and too fast course change of the the tall ship. Stern tug was not able to fallow the course change. Actually quite strange why the tall ship was going so fast and uncontrolled. This good example of why every tug boat Mate ned to have seaman’s knife in the pocket! 👍
@b.m.17784 жыл бұрын
axe, not knife.. watch again and pay attention 😉
@janisrcdronepilot14054 жыл бұрын
@@b.m.1778 Indeed, that was the axe who did the job! 👍
@kendalwilliam39804 жыл бұрын
@@b.m.1778 well the knife was right on his but though..
@janisrcdronepilot14054 жыл бұрын
@Master Jazoo what do you mean with landluber, good if you are landluber! 👍
@leehaelters61823 жыл бұрын
@Master Jazoonot chopping through Kevlar, either, I think.
@johngillon696910 ай бұрын
It just happens so quick. A sailor always needs a sharp knife on hand. I always hate it when there are so many witnesses.
@voithdriver Жыл бұрын
from my point of view, and that is as a tug skipper doing this manoeuvre frequently with a twin screw tug, and at roughly the same speed, the tow rope should have been on the head of the tug this is a safer bet with speed, alternatively with a stern tow setup, a gob rope should have been used, this moves the pivot point further aft and reduces the chance of girting. But my first choice with a tug that shape would have been to have the rope on the bow of the tug.
@poppaleggansquat36403 жыл бұрын
The guy with the knife was a lucky man not to get hurt, his crew mate should've given him a shout befire hitting the rope with the axe! Also if a ropes under tension its better to cut it where its attached so as to lessen the chances of the knife accelerating out of your hand or hitting you.
@boblister665 Жыл бұрын
Most tight manuovers with ships are done at a snails pace. That ship has a lot of windage and it was blowing so They may have been forced to make a risky turn.
@peterfrazer1943 Жыл бұрын
When we were departing Aden in 1962, for Mombassa on HMS Albion, we pulled a Tug over and 4 Arab Seamen lost their lives. It happened so quickly no one had time to react, plus with having all the Skylights open it went down like a stone. Its always dangerous when Tugs are manoeuvring a large vessel underway.
@annoyingbstard940711 ай бұрын
If they’d thribbled the gornwarbler astern of the grimmyshank this would never have happened. (Thirty years sweeping the streets.)
@andymack5093 Жыл бұрын
The old school "down haul snotter" seems to be forgotten here?
@JelMain2 жыл бұрын
One of my ancestors was killed in Portsmouth Harbour in the 1860S when a line snapped under similar circumstances. Cut in half.
@wheeltorque33837 ай бұрын
😂
@JelMain7 ай бұрын
@@wheeltorque3383 Well, the town turned out for the funeral, at least.
@1marktanderson6 ай бұрын
Tragic. 😢
@JelMain6 ай бұрын
@@1marktanderson Working class life in Victorian times.
@normtyneships1943 жыл бұрын
Have my eyes deceived me but was the lead tug not on a line on the port side and had to quickly, with too much speed, cut across the bow to pull her to starboard, making her stern pull hard on the tug in trouble?
@andrewnielsen3178 Жыл бұрын
Yes - lack of communication between the ship and tugs. Windage was significant and the lead tug should have been directing the stern tugs to hold tension and steer the stern. Also lack of communication between the deck crew and the skipper of the tug in the incident. There would have been a pilot aboard the ship who SHOULD have been aware of the complete situation.
@racketyjack Жыл бұрын
Speaking as a former boatswainsmate and able seaman, those tow lines seemed awfully small diameter. Granted they were being stretched but Ive seen many a towline or mooring line stretched and they were never that small. Guess though in this case it was a good thing as the deck seaman was able to quickly cut it loose with no injury to himself.
@katieverheggen1467 ай бұрын
Looks can be deceiving. I run my own tugboat and my boyfriend personally knows the axe-man in question here but rest assured, that rope is perfectly adequate for the job. Modern fuse mixes and super fibers like uhmpe give you plenty of performance. often outperforming steel wire.
@leehaelters61823 жыл бұрын
The short version had more information about the tug’s predicament.
@BoatAfloat3 жыл бұрын
Please explain
@leehaelters61823 жыл бұрын
@@BoatAfloat I saw the short version first. After viewing the longer version, I thought that I remembered seeing the Russian vessel run over the tow line and begin the girding. I guess that I was mistaken; the situation was that the Russian began making her own propulsion, and kind of outran the tug and began towing her, no? Sorry for the mistaken feedback. This clips are terrific. If you have another coming I am waiting eagerly!
@leehaelters61823 жыл бұрын
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@ESPNsPeacockbassProfessor3 жыл бұрын
In the dumbest scenario I'd say the tug thought they were going in one direction and didn't realize they were turning LOL
@jackmckinnon8256 Жыл бұрын
and thats why the bulkhead door has " keep closed at sea" written on it
@8ballphil150 Жыл бұрын
my favourite 2 training ships are the Kruzenstern and the dar mlodziezy . huge .
@ГражданинСССР-ч6ф Жыл бұрын
🇷🇺❤️🇷🇺❤️
@8ballphil150 Жыл бұрын
@@ГражданинСССР-ч6ф Kruzenstern Russian . dar mlodziezy polish
@marcomarini131 Жыл бұрын
The problem is....who was managing the ship's manoeuvring??? Probably pilot or ship's Master. I'm a tugboat Master and I talk about my experience...a ship secured to tugboat lines MUST to act considering tugboat's abilities in order to have a safe and effective aid during manoeuvre . It means to regulate speed and rate of turning. Unfortunately few pilots and Captains have been on the tugboat side. Congratulations to very reactive crew of stern tug
@philippetz6691 Жыл бұрын
I love the juxtaposition of everyone smiling and waving on the big ship and these dudes in serious danger of capsizing only 50 or 60' away.
@denisiwaszczuk1176 Жыл бұрын
Was a quick turn. But good crew was quick on the knife
@BoatAfloat Жыл бұрын
and the axe!
@dand559310 ай бұрын
It needs much more than this for that thug to be in danger. Also, the crew is great!
@ferry6497 Жыл бұрын
I watched it happen live. Tugboats also had problems bringing the Kruzenstern in..
@glengrant3884 Жыл бұрын
Great job! Things go wrong!
@DevaughnPeters-k2d10 ай бұрын
It would take a lot to capsize a tug boat they won't capsize that easily. The draft of a tug boat goes deep below the water line which would make it more stable
@coderider30222 жыл бұрын
What did they do 200 years ago with no tugs ??
@ericcsuf2 жыл бұрын
They followed the tides. If the winds permitted, they'd use some sail as well. In dead calm with no significant tidal surge, they'd put out a couple of row boats and tow it by manpower. They also couldn't build up the speed that tallship was moving. That was just unprofessional, dumb and dangerous. the whole thing was a crap show
@diederikvandedijk2 жыл бұрын
Anchor outside the harbor and row small boats to the dock.
@johndavid8815 Жыл бұрын
Without
@tonfranken6 ай бұрын
Swimmers with a line or rowing boat
@wiz122 жыл бұрын
Lots of stability left, twin-screw should have been able to power out of that situation. Manoeuver was altogether to fast.
@tonfranken6 ай бұрын
With a lower speed, the tugboat is kept better under control.
@schuttrostig57295 ай бұрын
that tug was far away from tipping, but it was in serious trouble, yes.
@SimonAtkinson33143 жыл бұрын
Should of been going slower with better comms between fore & aft tug. Aft tug should of been 25 to 50% less braking power than pulling tug depending on conditions.
@iceman7975 Жыл бұрын
A gog or (gob) rope further aft would have avoided girting the tug. High speed ,changing course suddenly and lack of communications all contribute to these occurrences.
@LB-oz9hv Жыл бұрын
The head end tug was going too fast for the tug on the stern to have a line up from his stern bits. Looks like they had atleast two other small tugs availab
@jasonfrodoman1316 Жыл бұрын
What capsizing?
@chuckg201610 ай бұрын
I'm not a seafarer but it looks like speed of current and/or ship was simply too strong for the tug. Maybe tide going out?
@tonfranken6 ай бұрын
The man with the knive was in a deadly position.What if the line breaks at the subject side? Its a missile coming to you.
@petetiller77542 жыл бұрын
Looks like there was 2 tugs on the stern, but doesn’t show when the other knocked off.
@BoatAfloat Жыл бұрын
That's right, that happened on the other side of the ship
@pget84624 жыл бұрын
How did they do when modern tugboats were not invented and implemented ? Were the captains at that time more skilled than ours today ?
@fredyboxnz13653 жыл бұрын
The captain of that tug wasn't doing to well cause before it cornered he was going sideways but he should of been way astern so when it finally cornered it starting drawing him under instead of him being straight astern
@rodrigolefever24263 жыл бұрын
@@fredyboxnz1365 that doesnt help
@marcomarini131 Жыл бұрын
Usually ,when a tugboat is fastened astern of the ship ,keeps line slacked and follow the ship's movements with it's on bow near the stern. It can start to tend the line once ship speed is comfortable and safe for manoeuvring. Also because higher ship speed means proportional loss of tug effective
@zirzmokealot460011 ай бұрын
Did he not have time to unhook rope from the bollard?
@petergarbutt952111 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY NO TIME TO RELEASE THE TOW ROPE, WOULD OF BEEN DRAGGED UNDER IN A SPLIT SECOND... THE TUG WAS GIRTING, ALSO MISSING A GOGLINE, TO KEEP THE TOW ROPE AT THE STERN, STOPPING GIRTING... TOTALLY THE TUG SKIPPER FAULT
@zirzmokealot460011 ай бұрын
@@petergarbutt9521 why are you yelling?
@petergarbutt952111 ай бұрын
@@zirzmokealot4600 NO DISRESPECT TO NO ONE, I ONLY USE CAPITALS AS ITS EASIER FOR ME TO READ... VERY SORRY FOR ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, WITH CAPITALS
@buckshotgigalo Жыл бұрын
Why didn't they just undo the wraps from the bollards???
@petergarbutt952111 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY NO TIME TO RELEASE THE TOW ROPE, WOULD OF BEEN DRAGGED UNDER IN A SPLIT SECOND... THE TUG WAS GIRTING, ALSO MISSING A GOGLINE, TO KEEP THE TOW ROPE AT THE STERN, STOPPING GIRTING... TOTALLY THE TUG SKIPPER FAULT
@buckshotgigalo11 ай бұрын
If you have time to cut and chop, you have time to undo your wraps. Better yet get a winch.
@buckshotgigalo11 ай бұрын
You see how easily he undid the wraps @ 3:08???
@katieverheggen1467 ай бұрын
Because if you undo the rope, it will start to "jump". there's tonnes of pulling pressure on the rope so you risk getting pulled with it, basically. Cutting may damage the paint work on the bollard but at least it saves you from potentially losing a hand.
@Ed-sd9qb3 жыл бұрын
Какой же он красивый.
@zzp13 жыл бұрын
Have always a knife at hand!
@Cpt_Tack3 жыл бұрын
1. No abort 2. Excessive speed 3. Never add power and go hard over in a girding situation, your going to roll. Keep the tow line off the stern 4. Wear your life jacket on deck when yarding
@chrispoulton9089 Жыл бұрын
where is the GOG line ?????????????????????????????????????????/
@SimonElenor3 жыл бұрын
Main tug was going far too fast. Communication failure! Slow the heck down!
@schuttrostig57295 ай бұрын
certainly, that was the main mistake.
@selkiemaine Жыл бұрын
What a cluster-f&^%! That entire maneuver occurred at about 3 times the normal speed that such evolutions are performed. I doubt the communication between the various vessels was good, either. One thing I should note - it's good practice, though often not followed - to close up the watertight doors in the cabin of a tug that its towing in that manner for precisely that reason. If a tug "trips" like that one did, it happens fast. The only real danger to the tug in this case is water ingress - that pull, at that speed, wasn't going to actually capsize the tug. Good job by the crew, BTW - and an unusually small line allowed to happen. On a US tug, or at least the ones I know - it would have been a line at least 50mm in diameter - a completely different matter.
@pietertuyn532 Жыл бұрын
1 the tugboats are navy tugboats and not familiar with harlingen (NL) you have to take a very sharp turn to leave the harbour 2 the towing line of the leading tug is to long it takes a eternity to go from the PS bow to the SB side bow of the sailing ship ( when altering course ) 3 the last means he has to increase power to catch the bow of the sailing boat as not to hit the beacon on the exit at the breakwaters 4 the increase of speed is to much for the stern tug and she can't put herself strait anymore under the wire even with 2 propellors 5 the small black tugboat with the red funnel are the guy's with experience as they do the fruitships and the shipyard jobs 6 is the navy involved time for beer and chips the crew of the stern tug was lucky cutting the wire under tension can be letal
@dr.kennethnoisewater26 Жыл бұрын
I’m not going rock climbing with those two
@kendalwilliam39804 жыл бұрын
My question is what size is the rope that was about to pull that tug under water, must have been one hell of rope, however he cut it with a knife, doesn’t add up to me I would have thought the rope would have popped under all of that pressure..
@alvaroasi3 жыл бұрын
The work was done with a single hit from an axe.
@shaynelhta3 жыл бұрын
It looked to be a synthetic kevlar/spectra type line. With that kind of tension a single hit from an axe will part it easily.
@janvisser22233 жыл бұрын
A Tipto 12 most probably
@frankmcconnellogue3351 Жыл бұрын
Lucky lucky lucky 😱😱😱
@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259 Жыл бұрын
Navigating a hazardous course way too fast, there's no need to be in this hurry.
@blackout7615 Жыл бұрын
I saw nothing capsize.
@ferv5470 Жыл бұрын
Well sounds cocky but it looks more dramatic then it was and imho the action of the crew was a bit overkill. Sure she is sideways, and sure there was some water om the deck. But the angle of the line on the H Bit to the ship is to steep and high to capsize the tug! The gravity of a tug is super low with the big engine and the line was not low enough.
@petergarbutt952111 ай бұрын
TUG IS GIRTING, NO GOG ROPE, TO KEEP THE TOW ROPE AT THE STERN OF THE TUG, TO PREVENT GIRTING... TUG SKIPPERS FAULT, ON CONFIGURATION OF TOW ROPE... NONE OF THE TUG CREW SKIPPERS OR DECKHANDS, ON BOTH TUGS NOT WEARING PFD'S, IS ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE... THIS SITUATION IS EXACTLY WHY THEY MUST BE WORN CORRECTLY 🤬🤬🤬
@FriskDreemurrOfBiggCityPort2 жыл бұрын
Ten Cents: •_ •
@mariegrasmeier94992 жыл бұрын
Haha, men do not need a quick release hook. Why we have all the knives in the galley? Do not need any PPE neither
@sidneylefort14932 жыл бұрын
head line on bow
@ryder6070 Жыл бұрын
Textbook!
@corvavw6447 Жыл бұрын
Spring gebruiken ,kan je nooit opgetrokken worden.🎉
@lawrencelarkin46706 ай бұрын
Plain and simple to much headway on the sailing ship he should have been down to 2 to 3 knots, speed is a problem in these situations as you have just witnessed or better still let the stern tug go earlier he was not needed when the vessel had made his turn, also the bow tug should have been fast in the starboard lead ready for the starboard swing and I can't believe he didn't break adrift bringing his towrope tight that quick the Skipper was lucky there...all in all the whole job was to fast and manic which will always create problems sometime's even fatal.
@lonpearson213411 ай бұрын
Allowing the line to hold fast instead of keeping it on a slipping configuration on the cleat, they almost lost it.
@davidmercuri42903 жыл бұрын
A onça..
@petergriffin38311 ай бұрын
Why did that Russian woman say "Shit" in English?
@georgemichelakis6103 Жыл бұрын
Με μια κίνηση πίσω αριστερά δεν θα γλύτωνε το σχοινί;; 😊
@Ed-sd9qb3 жыл бұрын
Очень сложный манёвр. Но справилась, молодцы на буксире. 👍
@sueandpaulstickley7930 Жыл бұрын
This is a good example of poor radio discipline. It could've been avoided very easily. The tug on the stern of the Krusenstern should not have put ten turns around the bitts, thus making casting off time-consuming. When disaster was starting to loom, the skipper of that tug should have given the order to cast off the warp, thus avoiding embarrassment on all sides. If this manoeuvre had been discussed face to face BEFORE casting off her land lines, with radio comms clear between the three skippers, it would have been much more controlled and calmer, and would have saved the appearance of the cut-all knife. In the stern tug, the crew should have known better than to put ten turns on. Three would have held fast, crew holding the coils in his hand, ready to cast off. Easy.
@benrobertson785510 ай бұрын
Looks like a basic fuk up.been on tow boats 45 years ,this is a first year mistake.sad to see a good boat run bad.
@ЛеонидТатаринов-и3т Жыл бұрын
Команде буксира ❤
@ironcapt99 Жыл бұрын
Miscommunication.
@glenkelley60482 жыл бұрын
The line from the tug should have been taken off earlier and there would have been no problem. The whole operation was too fast and forceful. Slow and easy is best!
@marcomarini131 Жыл бұрын
Really a safe conventional tug should hang the spliced head of the line on a towing hook. Towing hook offers a better towing performance due to its own elastic structure and,most important,is safer because of an emergency release which ,in those cases ,saves lifes and boat from sinking due to girting
@СтепанЛета-й5ю11 ай бұрын
О, Круенштерн))
@ΓεωργιοςΜαστρογιαννης3 жыл бұрын
No professional service
@marioasc9232 жыл бұрын
Tug without towing winch cannot be used! This is totally unsafely