Tulsa Ladder 24 house fire 3-17-20

[@joeconway88]

Great job Ladder 24...charged hoseline in under 90 seconds! If only more companies understood that things generally get better once you start putting wet stuff on the red stuff. Keep up the solid work Tulsa.

[@YouTube_Professor]

Had to comment on that one guy picking up hose mustache, that’s a proud display. Nice work as always top notch dept.

[@04u2cY]

The brothers in Tulsa as usual getting the job done 360 size up officer saw where the smoke pushing the hardest relocated the handline quick knock down back in time for dinner. Good job Tulsa keep pushing.

[@vinkelnisse]

This was an absolutely exemplary effort! You can be proud of your rescue service!

[@danielheartsill4269]

Another great job of getting water on the fire in just moments after arriving on the scene. Tulsa one of the best.

[@amandaforeman7441]

I love seeing fellow Okie FDs in action! Good job, fast response! Stay safe brothers! Amanda- SW Lincoln County FD

[@scottrose7728]

Well it's pretty obvious this department puts a real emphasis on stay fit. These guys look like they got hired straight out of the NCAA.

[@fireenginefan111]

The comments always end up more entertaining than the video 😂 Having said that...thank you to all the guys who upload their footage...it is always appreciated and interesting to watch.

[@dmoersfelder1]

Do you have to drop the ladder rack to swing to the officer side with the aerial? Seems like a design flaw to me.

[@JackR_TV]

Do you need any special pass or something to get that close or do you just do it for a while and they get to trust you.

[@HuntGamingProductions]

11:20 she really cute tbh i like female cops tht dont look terrible

[@Johnny64ism]

Yes i agree she is a cutie

[@JackR_TV]

Creep lol 😄

[@HuntGamingProductions]

@@JackR_TV thanks lol

[@unknown1238157]

I thought the same thing, she was kinda hot

[@TheAngryFishh]

I'd definitely play "Hide the Baggie of Weed" and let her search for it lol

[@donaldthomason4588]

Well done boys! Thank you for your service!

[@LUVEMDPOWER]

Outside of the guy that pulled the initial attack line leaving a pile of spaghetti at the curb, looked like a pretty good operation to me. Hit it quick & put it out; wrap up & go home!

[@skymedic48]

It looks like spaghetti, but it's a minute man load. Actually flakes out without much of a mess. We use them, they deploy nicely.

[@shawnbarrett5335]

@@skymedic48 it absolutely was a spaghetti mess. That was not a proper or even effective hose deployment at all. Look at all the links and lack of pressure in the line due to that shitty deployment. You obviously don't deploy hoselines much if u think that was how a Minuteman should be deployed

[@darylprescott8130]

@@shawnbarrett5335 am a probie , so my question what would he the correct way deploy. Should he have carried the line more close to door and then flank out?

[@shawnbarrett5335]

@@darylprescott8130 either shoulder load it and flake it out as u make your way to the door or if you do drop it like he did take the nozzle and a coupling to the door with you. There's many videos that show the proper deployment. My department personally doesn't go with all the different fancy hose loads. Ours is just a single straight load of 200ft and when I pull it I grab the nozzle and about 1/4-1/3 the way up from the bottom because our houses are only a 50ft offset from the street.

[@darylprescott8130]

@@shawnbarrett5335 thanks very much

[@terrygunter9549]

Tulsa FD has it too gather all the time. I am a retired fire fighter, and it is great to watch these guy's work. Every time I watch one of their video's they are just so well trained, Excellent FD. Lot od department need to adapt their training and working standards.

[@ajsbrushworksllc8348]

I see alot of folks fight with those exterior storm doors. They all have a piston or rod. There is a pull next to where the housing attached to the door, pull that pin, and the rod disengages. The door will then swing freely all the way open, where is can be chocked wide open. Or, you can usually pull them off the frame. But the 1st way does less damage. Y'all be safe.

[@erickaegi629]

Quick question, what's the booster line for?

[@erickellogg8532]

What caused it

[@michaelmincey2325]

Now that how filming suppose to be done what a great great job to Dell firefighter and the camera guy

[@Fire10Rescue]

thank you brother

[@mikepaz4870]

Really good filming

[@larrym7711]

That's impressive . They show up on scene , they are ready to go to work , like right NOW .

[@FireAlley]

Nice video

[@nkystevep7007]

What is the red hose?

[@dr.dickshungwell550]

NKY Steve P it’s called a booster line

[@tomrouillard8733]

A line that should not be pulled on a dwelling fire for inside operations as it was.

[@mikepaz4870]

Usually used for grass , dumpsters , vehicle fires. Never seen one used interior

[@ladder5825]

In this scenario they are using it for overhaul. To minimize unnecessary water damage. The fire was reported knocked down prior to its use.

[@williemartin9872]

Great fast attack. No screwing around just get it done. The 360 is so important.

[@herbiesnerd]

Willie Martin what 360°? I saw a 180° at best.

[@shawnbarrett5335]

What a terrible deployment of the hose!! What was even more painful to watch was 4 other firefighters walk by that spaghetti mess and not assist flaking it out !!

[@tomrouillard8733]

Shawn Barrett Several bad things happened. I like the guy who could not open the attic ladder up so just walked away from it. Also a bad choice of a ladder for access to the roof, if it was intended for that.

[@herbiesnerd]

tom rouillard and what the hell was an attic ladder for on an attic fire? Punch the ceiling open with your rubbish hooks. And bringing the hardline inside of a structure fire?? Ugh

[@acmext]

@@tomrouillard8733 it wasn't for access to the roof. Watch later, they take it inside... for the attic.

[@LatrieceWilliams-ed7cf]

And this morning waiting on last night for a real flame when the sound loud and clear 😂

[@stephenhanneken3041]

Huh?!?!

[@timasbell108]

Honest question, why go through the side door and not through the front door? Is that TFD’s policy?

[@JB91710]

Read my comment above.

[@timasbell108]

JB91710 I see your post, but don’t necessarily agree with all of it. Speed is always the key, but putting the hose between the fire and the potential life hazard is the #1 priority. Full Stop. I agree with most of what you wrote except the Ladder in the front of the building, which is SOP for most departments, in our area anyway. Now, if your tactics are different, then I respect that, but, (especially in the case where the ladder is a quint and can stretch a line) the ladder always gets the front of the building. I also disagree with using a booster line, unless it’s purely mop-up at that point. Most booster lines are 1” and capable of discharging between 40-80GPM, which as you and I both know, is nowhere near enough water to adequately attack a fire. There are plenty of depts that utilize Booster lines for non structure fires, and that’s just find, but to use it where there is a potential life hazard is not a good idea. That being said, no MMQB here, you do what you have to do when it’s on and you’re short staffed, but I don’t think it should be promoted as a good/best practice.

[@JB91710]

@@timasbell108 1. It takes a Lot of time to get inside a house. 2. Putting water on burning material from inside the house makes no sense when you can just break the fire room windows, which releases the pressure, smoke and heat directly to the exterior, and then you can safely apply water to the burning material. Thus protecting the victims and entering firefighters. 3. Ladder trucks are not the best tool for fighting fires. A ladder at a Ranch style house is ridiculous. 4. It takes about 20 gallons of water to extinguish an burning living room when an intelligent person is on the nozzle. It takes from 3-5 seconds to eliminate the flames and 5-10 seconds to soak the material. A booster line is all you need and there is nothing faster and more maneuverable. A 1-3/4" line takes too much time to get shaken out and into service. It also takes two people to do it. You have to Think to do any job well.

[@timasbell108]

JB91710 I don’t know where you work, but your standards and tactics are very different than those of most Departments & the NFPA. I am saying this with all due respect, I don’t know you or your experience, but I strongly disagree with most of what you just posted. 1). Takes a lot of time to get in a house: No, it doesn’t. Unless the front door is reinforced, (which this one obviously wasn’t), a simple pop with the Haligan is going to spring it open, but still allow you to control it & ventilation. We know from experience where are victims often located? By the door/window. Why? Because they’re trying to get out. If you have fire showing from the side, I can see hitting it to knock it down while entry is being made, but to stretch through a side door, sorry man, it’s just not how we’re taught and not what I believe in. My guys won’t be doing that. Hose line goes between the life hazard and the fire. That being said, my guys had better (especially if they’re getting off a truck) have their tools with them when they get to that front door... 2). Putting water on burning material from the outside: You say it’s safer for the FF’s in side to dump water in an open window? That’s 100% wrong. You don’t practice VEIS? If so, where is the “Isolate” portion of that? We had a grab at a job last week where we were told everyone was out. The officer went in and closed the door to the room that was on fire, (isolating it to that room). He then continued his primary while the hose line was being stretched and found a victim in the next room. Had we hit that fire from the outside, it would have steamed that victim, undoubtably burning him horrible. Not to mention, the time factor you mentioned. How much longer would it have taken us to find the victim had we done it your way? I see the argument you’re making, and that was how they taught us years ago, but that’s not how we’re being taught today. Again, maybe your department has very different SOP’s than us, and I have seen rare instances where you make a push through a different door than the front, (I.e. bulkhead doors for a basement fire, etc) but it’s the rarity, not the norm. 3). Truck to the Front: So your point regarding a single story Ranch is a valid one, (you’re not extending the ladder to a single story ranch) but what happens if they lose it, or the fire gets in the cockloft/attic? Then you’re in a surround and drown situation and if the ladder is boxed out, what good it is? Furthermore, (as I said earlier) if that ladder is a quint, it is in effect acting as an engine. The first line was stretched, using tank water. Parked in front of the house was 100% the right decision from both the Truck Company & Engine Company perspective. 4). 20 Gallons? Again, you’re going completely against EVERYTHING we are taught fighting today’s fires. I don’t know if you’re old school, and maybe going back to teachings from 25 years ago, but with the synthetic materials being used today, and the high pyrolytic properties of them, it takes mere minutes to go from a smolder to a fully involved room. You think it’s OK to be in that situation with a line that can only put out a limited amount of water? Again, maybe your SOP’s are very different than mine, but no sir, no way! If they only need 20 gallons of water, hell, maybe they can get it with a can, then great, but I want them to have the ability to make an aggressive fire attack if needed. As far as needing 2 people on an 1 3/4, yes & no. Most people can handle an 1 3/4 themselves in a pinch, but to your point, you will need someone to help push it in. But, when you’re speaking of Risk/Reward, it’s a no brainer. A Booster is good for mop-up, but that’s about it in a structure fire. Honestly, I appreciate that you have very different opinions than me, and maybe we’re from different parts of the country, but I teach my guys what is NFPA standard, and what we are learning from some of the best to do it in the country. I’ve said my piece, not trying to MMQB this particular video, as god knows there are video’s floating from my department that are embarrassing, but talking it up afterwards is how we all get better. Stay safe, Brother!

[@thomasmarks9153]

Hey Tim. Ole JB is well known on here for giving outdated and moronic advice. Best advice is not to engage him cause he truly believes he knows more then God Himself. Just reading his comments tells u that. I thought he went away however i see he has returned.

[@ianberger4605]

Awesome hustle!!! That's how it should be done!

[@skip4515]

I love the attackline just thrown to the ground in a pile and the nozzle guy fighting the to stretch the tangled line and getting his PPE on at the sametime.

[@grumpyscatsbestfriend5990]

Where was Sticks Larkin?

[@andyneipert2527]

I like cool looking of ladder 24

[@beckytwister01]

Do they know what started the fire?

[@poppiarlin5612]

Great video

[@MrElinehan]

They perform Engine Co ops like a Ladder company.

[@lz4181]

Ed L it’s a Quint for that reason rookie

[@walteralter1686]

Good hustle, boys were on it.

[@poppiarlin5612]

Excellent! When I see firefighters dragging the attack line and putting on their helmet at the same is a very good indicator of real firefighters. Excellent excellent excellent. Could y’all add some hollering in next time guys? By the way, excellent job of spotting the apparatus. The BC hopefully appreciates these guys.

[@beckytwister01]

Great job 👍👍

[@sueann9196]

Nice job

[@garkar908]

Lol why they pull the red line when they have a 1 3/4 charged already🤔🤛

[@mabloodhound]

pretty good, ladder truck crew was first to put water on the fire.

[@jobskinner833]

Damn, Tulsa has some hot firemen

[@FireAlley]

Sweet

[@LatrieceWilliams-ed7cf]

It's the greatest what thought of smoke fog in just seconds 😂

[@coover65]

Scrolling through the comments, I'm amazed at how many professional firefights give critique. A question from an Aussie paramedic; is Tulsa FD a professional or volunteer service? It seems that VFD is extremely common in all but the largest of US cities.

[@Bob-4054]

They're professional.

[@coover65]

@@Bob-4054 Many thanks. Do you know what the deciding factor as to whether an FD volunteer vs professional? Council budget or population size? Do growing cities say "OK, populatin increase means we can now turn our volunteer service into a professional service?"

[@Bob-4054]

@@coover65 that i don't know.

[@dr.dickshungwell550]

Coover Usually it has to be passed by a referendum by the voters if they want a full time ( professional) fire department. If passed it means higher taxes to pay for the service.

[@coover65]

@@dr.dickshungwell550 many thanks for the insight. Ours is a state run service., with 2,000 professional firefighters and 2,000 auxiliary officers (volunteer but paid on call outs). EMS is a separate entity , not part of FD.

[@911chicagofd2]

Good Job! Very quick knock down all companies go home. Subscribed

[@bramtanbenamsili5710]

Waw jadore c'est intervention

[@antoniorivera6939]

Nice

[@Scrappymoney2]

God bless you

[@smiley1914]

That is not a truck

[@annahendrickson5299]

Hi 💖💖💖

[@heavy7799]

Yuck. Quite possibly the worst stretch I’ve ever seen. Does anyone carry tools?

[@jsuperman7672]

No, they can't carry tools when they don't buckle there waist straps.

[@dennismcrae7933]

Making me seasick!

[@williemartin9872]

Dennis McRae : then get omg the boat. Lol

[@JB91710]

Time is the enemy. Venting, Eliminating Combustion and Cooling are the keys to Protecting victims, firefighters and property!!! This could have been handled by four firefighters. The pump, hydrant, door and nozzle person. Then there are plenty of things extra people can do. 0:54 360 should the fire room. They head directly to the source of the fire. Good!!! 1. A Booster line is Fast, No Tangling and only one person needed. In the hands of a THINKER with a Strong Work Ethic, you can get water on the fire fast and efficiently. 2. Tank water, Good! 3. No Vertical Venting. GOOD!!! 4. Fan, Good! 5. Hustle, Good! 6. Ladder in front, Bad!!!

[@justanotheraviator2357]

Well, Quint

[@herbiesnerd]

#1) Hardline-Not in a million years on a structure fire. It’s dangerous and inadequate if something goes bad. 30 GPM? Not on my life. Save the hardline for dumpsters and small vehicle fires. A 1 3/4” inside is easy to maneuver, flows 125 or 200 GPM so you can put out the small fire but capable of going big, like when you turn on that blower without coordinating an exit hole and you make the living room flash.

[@robertborchert932]

All but number 6. That's a handy attic ladder, just fine in this case. After extinguishing the fire in the garage, the task is to check for extension. Looks like this single story would have an attic hatch.

[@herbiesnerd]

Robert Borchert teaching that in a classroom, I’d agree. On a real fire, nobody is going to grab an attic ladder. Pulling ceilings above the fire is what you do on the spot. You keep pulling until you see clean wood in all directions.

[@JB91710]

@@robertborchert932 The reason I mentioned the ladder is because it was leaning against the eves for what I would imagine would be Roof Work which is unnecessarily dangerous and a waste of time. You do what herbie said. Open the ceiling and applying water as you go until the attic is out. If you need to get a look in the attic, then That type of ladder is good. The less ceiling you have to pull the better for damage control. Not to just the ceiling but everything under it.

[@mmutk]

hey i think we can just hit it in the garage! (not search for victims)

[@Realone259]

Damn, charged the line before making the stretch

[@Brian13549]

Few of these guys need to learn how to wear their waist straps on their SCBA'S they are not there for decoration they're there for a reason. Plus having them hang like that is not good especially when in the house could get stuck on something and you might not be able to get it unstuck if things go down hill quick.

[@ek6063]

B h thanks mom

[@greyman686]

Or you can just let them wear it how they want and stop worrying about what others are doing.

[@CSAFD]

Well we all know which department likes to do hose tangles.,...🤨

[@Hokieredneck]

Tulsa has some nice looking cops. i wouldn't mind being arrested by her

[@ddh158]

Amen

[@Blazefork]

Good knock.. Ignore all the perfect people

[@trob0914]

So, T-24 has no outriggers, also as a former Saftey O., there seemed to be # of crew not wearing proper PPE on the fire-ground( figure a department like Tulsa would be more on top of that), appeared to be a pretty good knock-down though.

[@JackR_TV]

Back in the 20s and 30s Tulsa fire department was rated the best equipped and best trained in the USA. Just a little fact

[@jacobhaugen1549]

Never cross lines like shown when the red line was brought to the front door

[@lindanwfirefighter4973]

😳 such a perfect life you lead goodness.

[@lz4181]

It’s a QUINT NOT A “REAL” LADDER/TRUCK 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@lz4181]

I am a dumb-ass? Hahahaha well my department has 174 stations and we have a lot of quints, the TRUCK Co are part of a light force response crew and we call them truck companies (no water) but you know this I’m sure! Stay safe out there fire command 1

[@troyhall4039]

Jason Thompson, are you LAFD?

[@lz4181]

Troy Hall nah County

[@troyhall4039]

@@lz4181 LaCoFd much love!! Love the tiller quints and I always wanna know do the paramedic squad carried SCBAs?

[@lz4181]

Troy Hall yeah we have two for each FF/PM

[@Hopeless_and_Forlorn]

I will never understand why a house fire requires more conferences, planning, reports, meetings, command and coordination, and chit-chat than the Normandy invasion, all carried out in front of the house and on the street.

[@mothermarylspeaking8989]

😆. I know you are making a serious statement, but it came out kind of funny. I've been watching videos from all over the country for the past couple of months and it seems the more personnel on scene the more accurate directions and communication is needed.

[@tmurdock410]

Couldn't believe how many firefighter s walked up to the structure with out a tool in there hand !!

[@andrewleatherman4931]

The engineers chew, in my opinion, is unprofessional. It impedes clear and concise communication on the fireground. Great video!

[@keithbotelho9189]

Firefighter could not open ladder so he just rest it on roof. Retrain him !!

[@FiremanCookie]

It looks like he opened it

[@lukemartinez7929]

This isn’t a house fire. Lol.

[@davemarshall706]

Quick! Its not a dumster fire. Its someones house. Ive seen people move thru a 7 11 quicker.

[@herbiesnerd]

A bunch of good guys willing to go to work but when the chief parks directly in front of the house of a narrow street, grabs a BA and starts walking, you know this isn’t a well oiled modern machine.