Tuning

[@mgcharoudin]

Excited to watch it! Currently racing myself, will have a look tonight!

[@levin645]

DJ Misha in da house.

[@kapsoztatoltott4537]

Weird flex but ok😂👍

[@MiguelHernandez-fl3rz]

😂

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We only finished edit last night!

[@ArKritz84]

This car with a built DQ250 would be pretty cool. Boba-motoring probably know the way...

[@peterjames808]

Misha started his last video with 'Rhyt then'. So It's only correct if you start with 'good morning comrades' next time.

[@mgcharoudin]

Someone said I'll get a quid discount if I do that.

[@ww3110]

@@mgcharoudin Did you? 🤔

[@DarksideDevelopments]

50p, final offer

[@tripemonger8916]

@@DarksideDevelopments ...counter offer, 75p if it's the correct "Carmrades".. 😄

[@VW25]

beautiful power graph lad

[@friedensgabel]

9.3 l/100km is pretty great for a 300hp car being driven hard

[@MichaelRickards]

25mpg according to google which is good

[@mikeyg4297]

Wonder what equivalent petrol would do

[@renetnk]

@@mikeyg4297 much much more :D

[@ReubenHorner]

@@mikeyg4297 my car is about 9.4 while highway driving and 25 or so while track driving.

[@dacmm]

That is if the injection quantity tables for the 100% injectors are mapped in 'properly' with absolute values and the consumption on the DIS is accurate. Otherwise it will be more than 9.3 in reality.

[@davidlowe3854]

Can't wait to see Misha taking it around the ring (a sentence I never thought I'd say!)

[@wilber3762]

😂

[@darjanator]

"It's smoking a little", while the back looks like it's been treated with vanta black. xD

[@DarksideDevelopments]

The exhaust just holds it in the rear

[@siraff4461]

@@DarksideDevelopments Looked like it cleared up a lot after the boost pipe fix. Maybe a small leak was already there? It certainly doesn't look too much now. Sounds good, goes fast.

[@JonathanTyas]

@@DarksideDevelopments VW knew the reason for those downward facing Tdi exhausts back in the day, wouldn’t have thought they would have considered that, VW diesels being so clean … 😀

[@estewarrior1]

@@JonathanTyas mandatory for emissions

[@The_Situation]

@@estewarrior1 The joke went over your head.

[@Master321v]

Ryan..big respect!!! You are on lvl EXPERT on both driving side!!! 🤠

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Need to try middle next!

[@Master321v]

@@DarksideDevelopments i wish you in a McLaren F1 LM!!! 😎🤠

[@1PotatoeMasher1]

@@DarksideDevelopments I’d love to see a mid engine V10 TDI car with Mclaren style center seating setup. Another idea, a rock crawler buggy with fighter jet style cabin, adaptive suspension, mid engine 2.0 CR tuned for alternative fuels and a 30gallon fuel tank for long over landing trips.

[@bradleymoy6899]

Loving the rear smoked window tinting 😆

[@thepurdychannel8866]

Love the mk4 golf

[@JonathanTyas]

@Misha Charoudin Collect it yourself and take it for a drive on the great North Yorkshire routes like Buttertubs pass etc and the road over the moors to Whitby. Only an hour or so away from Darkside. Then only an hour or so to the Ferry to Rotterdam!

[@mex8961]

Love the music at the beginning 😂

[@dominiccarter5805]

It's actually insane to think about the connections you guys have from our little wet Valleys in West Yorkshire to tuning a world renowned ring drivers mk 4 TDI ! 🤣😂🤣 Makes me proud to be a derv burning Yorkshire man I tell thi! 😆

[@TheTechnoaddict]

Looks quick! Can't wait to see it on the ring and try to keep up with it😁

[@Retirement_Life]

Can’t wait to see this go round the ring!

[@Guilhermepalmeida]

No smoke, for me is already a great project!!

[@ChatMotorsport]

If my 150BHP Passat is hitting TC in the wet at 10 MPH, this must be a handful! can't wait to see Micha in it!

[@jacobstaub6676]

9.3l per 100 km is pretty awesome for track driving! However it might have been averaged throughout the mileage of the car. Great work lads!

[@motojojo_]

That is a cracking dyno chart, great work 👍

[@Loztown]

Guys. We need a #shtbox remix uploaded to Spotify ASAP. Before festivals start up again. I can see some DJs dropping that at 2am

[@Lord_Dazzla]

sounds perfect too! not so much of a shitbox though.. Wouldn't mind doing one of these myself... I want a gtd estate though...

[@SpartanMJO12]

Bloody boost pipes... bane of my life Best one for me had to be up in Glasgow at 2 in the morning, foot down coming off a roundabout and POP! Off she went Of course I had no tools on me at the time, I was only up there for a weekend away

[@mattclarke6773]

Two clips I reckon on boost pipes. Be on the safe side 👍👍

[@VW25]

That graph is fucking beautiful lad

[@chasepatesel7118]

Seriously...I've been waiting to see the shitbox on the track..have been following this build from the beginning ..ordering the gtd28 turbo in the next couple weeks to start putting the parts together to replicate the build on my jetta..love your guy's videos and business AND customer service..keep up the good work #darkside

[@stevefinch8519]

Good track video, Always thought a torquey pd lump in a trackday car would be fun.

[@carlholden9811]

My life is now totally complete 🔥🔥🔥

[@numbersix8336]

My favourite car I owned was my mk4 golf gt tdi 130. That was 4 years ago, I really want another one now!!!

[@RacingChavvy]

Got given one by my sister a few years ago started getting it back on the road last month after a year of sitting and everything but the engine and box is falling to bits :(

[@mattl2k6]

Great stuff mate! Footcam would be good on the track parts of the video Bita heel n toe on t'old chugga

[@shaunwhitfield112]

Class as ever Ryan 🙌mishas car looking quick 😎👍can’t wait to see it lap the ring cool vid as ever mate 🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@rjnation5042]

You guys have done a great job on the little shitbox he sent you, awesome sounding exhaust on the 1st lap outta the pit, Rj in Oz

[@se1663]

LOL at the [Misha] shit box sample 😂👍🏾

[@tyt5216]

That's one beautiful shiny tracktool right there…

[@wilber3762]

If that’s what a box ‘o shite goes like I want one 👍

[@seanstubbs2620]

that diff does its magic 1st to 2nd it does a little skip n grip 👌

[@johnrowell942]

Nice track day motor.

[@kashuxable]

Natural diesel tint camouflage 😎🖤

[@eddiemichael4333]

That is one smokey ,real fast Golf mk IV 😉,Misha be carefull in Germany for the polizei,Darkside developments made this ring tractor super powerfull and fast 💣💢💥💪🤜🤛.

[@Ocean_Baseball]

When he came in with the loose pipe you couldn't even read the licensplate anymore :)

[@dylanraves]

It's crazy the amount of people complaining about smoke. In Canada we have diesel engines 3 times the size rolling coal. But we are one of the largest countries in the world. I don't see police for months at a time. That's freedom.

[@Corsa15DT]

MIsha should be picking this up already

[@Corsa15DT]

Great map. Power all the way to 5000.

[@Kenny-Somafunk]

The only KZbin video I have clicked "like" before watching,

[@bigmac7228]

Every time 😆

[@simonhaycocks]

Good work fellas, look like you really know your s**t. As a committed BMW nut with an M57d30 tu2 i personally struggle to understand why anybody would throw loads of cash at any other diesel, especially a 4 cylinder.

[@papapetad]

E46 is the only cool car with the m57 and it's WAY more expensive to build and maintain...and much heavier to boot.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

The E90 is nice but peak power is not everything. I need to get my race car out and see if I can worry the Golf!

[@simonhaycocks]

@@DarksideDevelopments true but the m57 just delivers its torque in a lovely linear way and sounds decent (for a diesel). Mines only had a remap and the dpf gutted but it’s turbine like right through the Rev range. Properly tuned m57’s with all trick bits must be amazing.

[@openclockclubarchive325]

Great work lads

[@nimajneb02]

Would the Nurburgring / Germany in general have a problem with rolling coal?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Hopefully not!

[@JonathanTyas]

@@DarksideDevelopments does the Nurburgring close when it gets dark? Better make sure there are some good lights on that Golf and no lights behind 😜😃

[@thedetailingdoctor5746]

The air fresher I added is like a G meter 🤣🤣🤣

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Added grip too!

[@andyhunt457]

@@DarksideDevelopments Defo raised the centre of gravity though 😆

[@markusromeis3243]

9.3L/100Km is extremely good considering the power and driving style

[@johnmoser2689]

Looks like it rips it up... nice work

[@alloverflorida5886]

I know where im sending my Mk4! when i hit the lottery...

[@gabrielvanya8245]

Don't wait for the lottery. Save up, invest. Nobody is responsible for your wealth besides you

[@florenceflavien3970]

no smoke mini , little bit more golf (more power) awsome👍👍

[@motojojo_]

Darkside Mini, now with added cowbell?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Lol, harness in passenger side!

[@stevenlee4437]

No smoke no poke

[@727Dexter]

Great Work, which fuel do you use ? (CZ number) or you going for standard diesel with the bio component and low CZ number ?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We use whatever is cheapest!

[@flippy9133]

sounds angry, great stuff!

[@michal.laskowski.]

good sound for tdi

[@MTBLuke08]

fair bit of reek like

[@alexmat106]

Funny how you said "this doesn't smoke that much" 😅 I'd go bigger injectors/pump to deliver the fuel quicker/earlier...can you play with the injection timing? This has unit injectors, right?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It needs better atomisation or more air. We certainly played with the SOI already ;)

[@JohanH1990]

Is it not as simple as running out off duty cycle? Seems like the injectors are spraying to long and therefore this show

[@alexmat106]

@@JohanH1990kinda...I think it's more a matter of fuel flow...in diesels you only have a narrow window where you can inject the fuel efficiently, around 30 crank angle degrees. You can keep injecting later but the result is poor efficiency and thus soot and high exhaust temps

[@PaladinJenkis]

Hey Guys! Do you know by any chance which exact wheels those front wheels are? I am looking for some OEM style alloys for my MK4 and I really like those, are they 18"? Cheers!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

They are OEM mk4 golf wheels from 2001 - 2002. Not sure on their exact model name but they are 17"

[@PaladinJenkis]

@@DarksideDevelopments Thanks for the response, Very much appreciated!

[@davidjb3671]

Looks like you need to extend the tailpipe - 3 to 4 metres should be enough 😏

[@kerrgreg]

Few times looked a bit smokey on exit of corner into start/finish, guessing it fell outta spool? Needs some aero!

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Yeah it can be cleaned

[@Corsa15DT]

'9.3 L per 100km, probably not good' - actually it is unheard of for a track.

[@brainsoff_9210]

9.3liters/100km not good? Damn, my stock 1.6tdi 105cp around the city eats 8.5lt/100km, and this 300bhp monster eats 9.3 in full throtle. I've done a bad deal!

[@rossalexanderracing]

Do you know what times the Mini was doing? I managed 1:14 with 240bhp & NS2R, I want a time to try and beat next time I’m out

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Never got another time out of it but low 1.1x's the same

[@asdfghjklkjhgfdsa69]

30mpg is pretty nuts for getting the shit beaten out of it on track

[@james-3778]

Wish I could do something like this with my pd100, only got 90k on the clock too

[@bencrosbie]

300hp and the car runs perfect from the get go well done! maybe slap on 160% for laughs? that is phenomenal ye should be proud of yourselves. I dig the shitbox tune lol

[@thedetailingdoctor5746]

Those TOP pipes are renowned for popping off lol 😆

[@VelEire_]

9.3L/100km is 25.3mpg

[@jons6125]

Interesting watching the g force effect the eis on the in car footage? Or that something elce?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

The new Go Pros are strange!

[@tomicelj9741]

Look up Gale Banks, he would be pissed seeing the smoke.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

He tunes CR mainly, not PD

[@tomicelj9741]

@@DarksideDevelopments So what? You dont have enough air if there is black smoke. Is it not possible to inject less fuel wih PD because of it's design / lack of adjustability / big injectors?

[@ReubenHorner]

@@tomicelj9741 it's because they don't care about a bit of smoke when jumping on the throttle. It does get the turbo going a bit quicker. Adding a smoke map to make no smoke will probably limit engine response a bit

[@stoeptegel50]

Nice work! However, I think that if the car is running less smoke it will be a better advertisement for Darkside (especially in Germany). Although I assume a bigger turbo (more air) would result in more turbo lag and a less drivable (and slower) track car?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We are reducing smoke

[@Corsa15DT]

I have one question. WHy is it that the torque on the diesel engine drops consistently from 3000rpm to 4500rpm. When I monitor the boost on vcds, the boost is constant 1 bar from 1500rpm to 4500rpm, so why is the power dropping, when we supply enough air all the time?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Look at the relationship between power and torque.

[@Corsa15DT]

@@DarksideDevelopments I understand that. The question is why the torque is dropping rapidly after 3000rpm, when the turbo supplies constant air pressure till 4500rpm.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Torque is calculated from hp so will always be equal at 5250rpm

[@stefanschopf8408]

Not sure what I like more - the car or the shitbox song

[@gileshamilton4462]

Looks one rapid diesel golf thats for sure ...

[@Lordosvk]

MK4 Tracktor :D

[@igorrzg2407]

Hello Darkside crew. I am very much interested in this buid. From your previous video you said that the original gtd2060 is capable for ~300 HP. And now with a lot bigger turbo (gtd2872) you can't go past the 300 mark. There is enough fuel if not a bit too much. I am writing this from a positive stance and want to learn. What boost levels do you recommend max for the original gtd2060 and how much for the upgrade turbo? let's say at 3000 rpm and at 5000 rpm. Appreciate your reply.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

I was talking about gtb2260. 2060 is small for the older engines.

[@igorrzg2407]

@@DarksideDevelopments In the video where Amarok gets a Bigger Turbo it was said that the gtd2060 can give out 300-310 HP. So I am again interested in the boost levels on a 4cyl @ mid & high rpm and compared with the new big gtd2872. Thank you

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Not used 2060 on 1.9, turbine is too small imo

[@nahalkaautosport2282]

heavy body for racing .it's a family car.The ideal car is the Golf MK2 MK3

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Mk2 or Mk5/6 best

[@nahalkaautosport2282]

@@DarksideDevelopments Your opinion.the reality is elsewhere.

[@alfiebrotherton935]

@@nahalkaautosport2282 not rly bro

[@nasnas3478]

Which is better round the track? Which was faster?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

I think they are close but Golf was faster when I learned how to drive it!

[@golgoth7600]

Excuse me. Left hand drive is the proper side.

[@dylanraves]

Yes sir.

[@zvonimirkljajic4473]

Does it seem to me or did it clean up the exhaust after refitting the pipe?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Possibly!

[@konstantin88181]

This car's back gonna be all black by the end of every lap of Nurburgring...xD

[@Rickie-37]

Hey, did I hear that right, you're using pd100 injectors?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

No, 100% Firad

[@stoatrepublic]

That trailer looks religious...

[@MrSeth1387]

Is it possible to use a quickspool valve on that set up?

[@ReubenHorner]

Not without changing manifold I think. Not needed in this application because revs are always in the power range

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Its VGT so you would not anyway!

[@zizogaucho9035]

11:37 that was a fast pass!

[@arnoldkul3827]

What 02M gearbox code does it have,maybe the ERF?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Yes ERF

[@roxracer]

I cant wait to see a video of it on the ring. It looks f*cking fast. I think you need a cage...

[@rv9990]

If i remember correctly a (full) cage isn't legal in a german registered street car.

[@kalistuh]

Can someone tell me what is the max HP you can get out of a 1.9tdi AFN without black smoke? And how to achieve it?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

depends how big your turbo is!

[@kalistuh]

@@DarksideDevelopments I may buy a 1749va, is it good for 160/180hp without smoke?

[@adbirdk]

The mini looks like a great track tool, and the shit box looks like it requires some new underwear.. That thing is dancing.

[@DatHirschi]

Which size are the wheels on the Mini?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

18x8

[@zizogaucho9035]

Does it run with the dual mass flywheel?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Single mass

[@travissynnestvedt7468]

How much did it cost for the motor build?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

12000euros

[@dieseldes6578]

A bit much smoke on the transients surely. The back of it was a mess by the end. Does beg the question, why not a 1.8t?

[@lexiss972]

Because 1.9 tdi 😉

[@1PotatoeMasher1]

Because they’re a diesel tuner and the car is a Tracktor.

[@lexiss972]

@@1PotatoeMasher1 and you are a stupid dude without car

[@dieseldes6578]

@@1PotatoeMasher1 I get that they are a diesel tuner. By my username you will see that I also am interested in diesel's having done plenty of track days in tuned tdi's. Almost 20 years ago I had a MK2 golf with a MK4 TDI, 2 turbos, and over 220hp, so I know a bit about them. For a car that does lots and or road work and some track days then a diesel makes some sense. But not as a track based car that does some road work. For a track based car I have moved from diesel to petrol. It just makes sense. You can drop a turbo and injections, fmic on a 1.8t and make 300 hp with a map. Want more, then a set of rods and you can make 400hp. Want more, then pistons and valves. Traction is a serious issue at that point. Torque has less relevance on a big open track like the ring. Torque rules on the road and for rally's. Horses for courses.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We beat all the petrol cars in our class most of the time with less consumption and 'easier' to drive. But not to say petrol cars don't have their uses, maybe if all out power is your goal!

[@neohimself]

Ever heard of "heel and toe" downshifting?

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Yes. Not in a Mk4 golf

[@koooubis]

Sup can i ask do you sell custom ecu for 1.9tdi 66kw alh that can be compateble with non flash ecu ports ? Thx

[@DarksideDevelopments]

We don't but the conversion is possible but very involved!

[@koooubis]

I know the whole front motor el. I heard there is adaper for it so i dont really know who is telling truth😄but thanks for reply

[@Be4tJumper]

I like to think you were hitting that chicane too fast

[@Andrew.Prentice]

Looks faster from outside than it does from inside. Bit smokey though.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Would like less smoke!

[@JonathanTyas]

@@DarksideDevelopments stick a double dose of millers ecomax in the tank, works wonders on controlling smoke on my Tdi. Admittedly that’s getting a lot more fuel than mine tho !

[@KylePrentice4x4]

👊🏻👊🏻

[@davidcoupalbergeron2]

A diesel engine need a lot of air . Those filter will give but dsnt protect much its sad . The other thing is air inside engine bay get hot so density get lower . I have a air filter box that take air from fog light . I have air intake temperature around 20°c and outside temperature 16°c . This heat is from the box getting cook inside the engine bay

[@DarksideDevelopments]

did you measure the vacuum inside the airbox? this matters more than temperature

[@davidcoupalbergeron2]

@@DarksideDevelopments I know . Iam connected on the ecu air box with a 80mm hose and 90 mm to the fog light plastic cap . The filter is 160x178 with a 100mm hole . Ecu hot air and outside mix was a concern but dsnt seems to do anything . I would have more idea to optimise density but I want to keep it budget and sleeper .

[@davidcoupalbergeron2]

@@DarksideDevelopments we can talk about it for hours if you want 😆

[@MrWoowootila]

Love the car color. What is it.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Mk4 Grey!

[@1988leer]

Is there no way of fitting a dsg to this model??

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It's possible

[@1988leer]

@@DarksideDevelopments could be an interesting upgrade!!

[@powerchill]

doesnt freshly rebuilt engine need some break in period? You guys just basically put together fresh engine and already ripping it as hard as it goes. Seems bit rough innit

[@1PotatoeMasher1]

In the previous video they mentioned a run (break) in period and oil change before testing.

[@DarksideDevelopments]

It was already run in but will get better if it keeps getting hammered for a bit, compressions are already 450+psi

[@papapetad]

Bunch of great articles and videos on misconceptions about break-ins and what happens to moving parts following full rebuilds.

[@Corsa15DT]

Should be enough for 8:30 on the ring

[@DarksideDevelopments]

Less