Tupac vs Notorious BIG In A Verzuz Battle | The Joe Budden Podcast

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[@shroomkingdom8152]

PAC in heaven like, “Hey, Quik, let me see them binoculars.”

[@tupimpacaterpillar3516]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@solid-data8826]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@geechums9138]

....Them binoculars! 🤣😂🤣😂

[@joel_holmes]

Man, that gave me chills

[@jbucdadon8583]

Gooood shit 😂😂

[@mrcassantos]

Pac’s catalog is long enough to battle multiples artists at one.

[@ratueroni6067]

Facts

[@ceceblack2613]

Please inform this folk's

[@ivorydogan730]

Absolutely 💯💯💯💯 Pac is beyond words

[@rebeccamcneill7348]

💯

[@brnistivenson210]

But stil BIG was beyond Pacs knowladge about music(rap) biggi had better flow better rymes both of them ARE still legend but biggi was far better MC

[@lotmathebula8783]

The fact they said they are biased when it came Biggie songs and biggie still lost it says a lot about pacs catalog

[@ivy8645]

Exactly

[@andrejamison2723]

Fans opinion

[@williamblassingame7312]

Plus they East coast NY fans. Do a podcast on the West and Pac destroys it.

[@mizmolly2000]

It’s Pac for me. His catalog alone (in his mere 25 years of life) is an unfair advantage for any rapper

[@backpfeifengesicht8415]

And 5 yeats of career

[@stunnag2108]

Lol Kanye West got the Greatest Discography EVER

[@stunnag2108]

@Little Sones I'm just stating FACTS

[@stunnag2108]

@@mahanmoe LOL nobody got more CLASSICS than Ye

[@hiphopdebate3651]

Remembering The Notorious BIG | Is Life After Death The Greatest Album Ever | subscriber give away

[@CoolTy23]

PACs catalogue is too deep for BIG... they didn’t even have “Pain”, “Starin Through My Rearview”, “Bury Me A G”, “All About U”, “Troublesome 96”, “Unconditional Love”, Letter 2 My Unborn”, Pour Out A Little Liquor”, “Str8 Ballin”, “Changes” or “Heartz Of Men”

[@Riquinni]

Most people never take the time to listen to all of his individual songs, including unreleased tracks. But I guess that's why some people feel justified talking shit, because they have no idea what they are talking about.

[@j-express_1]

Plus Thug'z Mansion, Better Dayz, Thugs Get Lonely, Pac's Life, Me and my Homeboyz, Trapped, Smile, Heaven'z Got a Ghetto, list goes on &on bru

[@j-express_1]

Oh and my favorite 2Pac record of all time Life Goes On

[@CoolTy23]

J. Espinoza mines too

[@johnbrink5690]

Letter to unborn. Rearview. Troublesome. Some of my favorites

[@dauriced7921]

Lord knows I tried , been a witness to homicide ,drive bys, taking lives , little kids die, wonder why as I walk by , broken hearted as I glance at the chalk line getting high , this ain't the life for me I wanna change , but ain't no future right for me stuck in the game!

[@Synchronite]

Some mid

[@hateisasignofenvy651]

That shit gets me everytime

[@LaVishWon]

Even now that I'm not a "believer" I still play it

[@anirbanhaldar1971]

And the morons say he has no bars? GTFO here!

[@Synchronite]

Anirban Haldar Oh wow... he wrote a poem whoaaa!!! Look it’s poetry and it rhymes! Welcome to 1978 😂

[@PharaohChin]

Nothing is topping Shed So Many Tears.

[@fahblizza]

I'm a Biggie fan and I agree with you. My favorite Pac song.

[@creflowsdollabill9359]

Hard record but i can name 5 big records that would body it.

[@nunusthirst167]

Aaron Robles lmao 😂 we’re not talking about biggest record dummy

[@nunusthirst167]

Aaron Robles I never gave my opinion on shed so many tears but it is better & im from Jersey & a bigger Biggie fan than PAC. You over here talking about I’m Not Afraid lol that songs dope but wtf that got to do with the topic?????

[@PharaohChin]

Nunus Thirst It was a reach... it was an early morning stretch.

[@hitachiuchihamagicwand2776]

I'll take 2Pac's deep meaningful songs over Biggie's shallow materialistic tracks all day. Biggie was ahead of his time with wordplay but people act like wordplay is the most important thing when its not.

[@Synchronite]

Pac spoke about Hennessy, enemies and at the end he said Remember me 😂 The end

[@ejnytryta5466]

@@Synchronite 😭😂😂😂

[@rambo808gaming2]

Hitachi is right. Ill take pac over biggie or any other rapper easy.

[@mamba4817]

Nas wordplay was ahead of them all

[@cornellblevins1778]

@@Synchronite what you spoke about? Biggie spoke about Welch’s grapes and food. Then spoke on getting on his knees, nevermind 😂😢

[@revival45]

Pac was cussing nikkaz in swahili. He on another level.. 😂

[@dmxisbetterthantupac6528]

Dmx cussed pac out

[@2pacisgay955]

Baby lane cussed pac put with his bullets

[@2pacisgay955]

@Dwayne Hogan you soo fruity

[@evanforensics]

@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 😂😂😂do you just make up these accounts for things like this?

[@scarletbouvier520]

Pac ran his mouth like one of biggies women 😆 pac was so feminine

[@TrilariousEnt]

I can’t take how close this was seriously. I love BIG but c’mon New York. Everything they owe by Pac is so relevant to the times right now. Made 25 years ago btw

[@TrilariousEnt]

Dwayne Hogan real spill. Joe kept it a buck but Mal and Rory smokin dope man. 11-9 my ass lol

[@demarbieuxme]

FACTS💯💯💯

[@Synchronite]

Big has a strong 20 vs Pac Not catalog for catalog Pac had a couple years head start and then basically became a religious figure in death 🤷🏾‍♂️ Can’t compete with Pac who is basically a demi god to some

[@BigWill007]

It has nothing to do with New York. They both from New York lol

[@Israel-nb7ip]

@@Synchronite that's why we can't have a verzus battle including Pac in it cuz his legion of sycophants would make it a miserable experience. If Pac doesn't win damn near every round, they'll be up in arms which takes the celebratory part of it out the battle. 20 songs, song for song Biggie can compete against any rapper dead or alive. But Pac is a religion to these dudes who were most likely in diapers when Pac was alive and/or had no father figure in their life so they sit at Pac's lap worshipping every word. Its ridiculous.

[@225yungin]

PAC had timeless records

[@adamsalazar]

💯

[@fernandoreyes680]

BIG too

[@user-qd6im2hp2e]

fernando reyes Pac has more

[@GucciButNotGuilty]

He has

[@MacP12]

And so did Biggie wtf 🤨🤨they’re both legends goofy

[@TexasChick-pq3dl]

So Many Tearz and All Eyes on Me wins all day 👀👀

[@TexasChick-pq3dl]

FFB332mob Williams Mal and Rory debated this.. it's in the video. @ them🥳 I know this.

[@crews-lj3ph]

Facts

[@TexasChick-pq3dl]

Dwayne Hogan my mans🤜🏽🤛🏽💯

[@shaunphillips3236]

2Pac beat Biggie 15-5

[@TexasChick-pq3dl]

Shaun Phillips out of respect Vegas will give him 5 point it is Biggie.

[@1229slim]

2 pac's catalog is ridiculous. There's no question who would win.🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿

[@dmxisbetterthantupac6528]

Dmx catalogue more crazier than pacs

[@2pacisgay955]

PACs ballet perfomance was ridiculous

[@Israel-nb7ip]

It's not catalog vs catalog, though. It's best 20 songs vs best 20 songs. Biggie is right there with him.

[@goalmindluck]

And i mean for real.

[@VANGUARDIANTV100]

DMX Is Better Than Tupac log off slim

[@RAMBO-WICK]

Bra it’ll end up a PAC concert. No comp

[@carbon.the.christ5626]

lol no lies told

[@BonnieBeats]

that's a dumb thing to say.. not true

[@juzeljames7793]

@@BonnieBeats its a fact

[@BonnieBeats]

@@juzeljames7793 its actually not a fact, if they were both playing on different levels of a night club, i could guarantee both rooms would be full, wouldn't be one sided pac.. i bet there a good 30% of Pacs audience that don't really know his shit, they just like his ACT about Thug Life n shit and the fact its Pac, an if u tell me that ain't an act then ur probably in that 30%

[@juzeljames7793]

@@BonnieBeats idk what you talking about you going somewhere else.....and 80% wouldn't like big shit because most of his shit have the same concept in every song...so NEXT....and thats a fact

[@thedon8976]

This grown ass man just said 10 crack comandments better than shed so many tears

[@Synchronite]

Missing you is better

[@killemall923]

@@Synchronite Missing you is a great song but it ain't fucking wit so many tearz

[@TheeChronicle]

10 crack is better and way bigger. Both classics

[@micahwest2793]

@@TheeChronicle 10 crack commandments was fantasy shit. Shed So Many Tears was timeless.

[@Topsey2000]

Never liked Commandments. So Many Tears is spooky.....

[@drem9449]

Faaaaam. Pac wins by far it ain't even close! Pac had 6 albums compared to biggies 2 while they was alive. I respect Biggie but comon man Pac just has more hits that weren't even on that list

[@odini6235]

Biggie had hits that weren't on that list either. Pac made enough songs for 15+ albums. The biggest comparison in hip hop is Biggie Vs 2pac. And comparing a guy who only had 2 albums. To a guy who had enough songs to make 15+. Says something about Biggie who only had 2 albums. Cmon its not even a challenge Biggie over 2pac any day of week.

[@marwansaid5220]

@@odini6235 you must be from NY...!! Ask any1 from outside NY and i bet with everything that they would say Pac washes biggie...Come on son...listen closely to pac songs...nobody like him...

[@mjrowden]

Sooooo many HUGE Pac records missing off that list. PAC could win 18 rounds, no cap

[@dawitburton1408]

Damn as much as I love Big. PAC will prolly beat anyone in a verzuz challenge honestly 💯. PAC whole discography is timeless. And I actually prefer Biggie but Pac got waay more records I listen to.

[@adilsonvieira3950]

Life after death double CD is better beginning to end then ANY pac album 💯

[@ilovemelons4829]

DAwit Burton Kanye and Hov have him beat.

[@groovyferny9061]

Adilson Vieira bullshit

[@groovyferny9061]

Adilson Vieira me against the world beats life after death hands down

[@rakabash2081]

Tupac: ALL DAY EVERYDAY!

[@dmxisbetterthantupac6528]

Dmx > tupac

[@jeanniesgems7662]

@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 let's say Pac was alive and battled a DMX, that would be one raw battle. 😂

[@grinchoi1]

@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 never that...

[@shaunphillips3236]

@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 X is a clone of PAC, u understand that right?

[@thebine1238]

So many tears all day long. I’m with Joe on that one.

[@jeanniesgems7662]

I picked Tupac on almost every single song match up they went through. 😂 I think in a battle songs like Hypnotize, One More Chance, and Big Poppa would be the crowd pleasers, but I personally prefer the Pac line up easily.

[@jdrobinson3468]

I swear 2pac has songs you haven't heard yet. And Keep Ya Head up transcends time.

[@BigTone999]

Keep ya head up you can put next to Dionne Warwick or Whitney Houston in the playlist. Transcends Genre.

[@1jkillings]

Smile, white mans world, thugs mansion, biggie was dope but tupac catalog too packed.

[@artmessiah83]

Smile and thugs mansion were posthumous joints. I don’t think they counted those.

[@jordandavis3867]

Nooo. They were recorded before. It wasn't post humous. It was unreleased. The tracks were already done before he died. Tupac's work ethic was incredible.

[@train199]

Best verse on smile was Scarface’s !!

[@allthewayupnorth_8155]

White Manz World is a deep ass song. They didn't even mention against all odds.

[@lioicxc6827]

Smile is a Scarface song featuring 2Pac. The remix version wasn't as good as the one original version on Face's Untouchable album. Just like Thug Luv is a Bone Thugs-N-Harmony song featuring 2Pac. It doesn't belong in 2Pac's personal catalog.

[@ramind824]

When dude said “u just like Jon b on the hook” I was done

[@supamn25]

He shouldn't be allowed to say another word in this convo after that comment.

[@cliffdavis9618]

Yea he done. Straight bias didn't no wtf he was talking about

[@Silver_79]

Real talk.....how TF are you gonna confuse So Many Tears and Are You Still Down?

[@JM-er3hz]

Not gonna lie, seeing Joe vibe out to Shed So Many Tears is exactly how I vibe out to that shit too. He always been vocal in his love for Pac but seeing it like that gained more respect. You gotta feel that shit in your soul 🤣🤣

[@user-qd6im2hp2e]

J M facts. Mal wanted to do it too but his NY bias didn’t let him

[@ericfrazier95]

Tupac crushes

[@jflack6]

Notorious Thugs should go against that Bone song Thug Luz with Pac.

[@el84oro]

notorious thugs still wins that.

[@Israel-nb7ip]

Yeah, I don't know who created this matchup list but its garbage. Same thing with 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted should've gone up against Brooklyn's Finest. How Do You Want It should've been up against Big Poppa or One More Chance Remix. Plus, Biggie's list wasn't even his best 20 joints. Pac probably still wins but this was a trash Biggie list.

[@2pacisgay955]

@LAVAR BALL

[@2pacisgay955]

Pac was the weakest link in hip hop

[@palehorserider1407]

And Long KISS Goodnight should be on there

[@esoh8460]

Imagine if this was real, and Pac plays "Hit 'em up" lol.

[@abdulway1965]

😂😂😂

[@aminatak1985]

the battle is over after that, everyone can go home

[@lonnieminor1176]

Lmao OVER!!!

[@rasaanshakur9491]

🥴🥴😂😂😂

[@earljohnson2613]

Nobody could battle 2pac's energy at this time

[@PointBlankChiWay]

Unconditional love- Starin through my rearview -Never Had A Friend Like Me- Pain(Above the Rim ST) 2pac= G.O.A.T

[@DaSkarekrow]

Biggie's Juicy, Hypnotize, Notorious, Sky's the Limit, What's Beef, and Big Poppa are fkn amazing....that being said, I personally I had Pac winning most of it.... Where's Changes? Toss It Up? End of Time? Life Goes On? Thug Luv? And where the FK is My Block....

[@jeanniesgems7662]

Exactly they left out so much that should have replaced some of those songs.

[@londonontariocanada]

I dont think they used any of his posthumous stuff...which he had alot of gems...I think until the end of time is the best lyrical rap of all time

[@JM-er3hz]

To not have Toss It Up on there is wild to me!!! Still in rotation on my playlist today!

[@celticbarry9877]

Thugz Mansion

[@JM-er3hz]

Celtic Barry oh that's a hardcore fact. Those lyrics hit you different if you're in the right bag for them. Make you think about the world outside of everything like “damn... you right, there has to be a place better than this in Heaven“

[@viziomusa5921]

People forget Big only had two albums, its really no contest for Pac

[@squintsp4850]

Nobody forgets that. Pac got a shit load of garbage in all that shit he put out. 80% of it dont even get spinned today

[@a-a-ron8789]

@@squintsp4850 but that 20% still shits on Big

[@squintsp4850]

craig rankine herb

[@edwardb5227]

Pac can't fuck with big

[@shaunphillips3236]

@@squintsp4850 u smoking 🤣😂🤣😂💨

[@beyoutifullyunique03]

Shed so many tears 🐐

[@bus2776]

Inside my mind couldn't find a place to rest Until I got that Thug Life tatted on my chest

[@keeyonniez]

Mal shopping in the kids shoe section looking small as hell 😂

[@Sprezza_tura]

Also in the nail polish section

[@ash2crimson968]

"Bury Me A G" and "Pain" Should have been there.

[@grape5620]

Pour out some liquor

[@michael43567]

and "Life goes on"

[@jialian93]

They just aren't as popular but they're honestly some of his best songs. So much pain is amazing

[@grape5620]

@Kelvin Quartey This just goes to show you how far ahead Pac was. Think about it. He was in jail and died before big and all big got is a few songs chopped together with features. Pac was working.

[@FinesseJohnson187]

Bro my dumb self was checking for thugz mansion but it wasn't on the list. Yeah they certainly missing a few

[@solid-data8826]

What???? 10 crack over so many tears.???? 😂😂😂. Mall tripping

[@michaelburcham2010]

PAC wins all day everyday. The master of substance will always beat the master of flow.

[@odini6235]

nope

[@aminatak1985]

@@odini6235 YEP, HIT EM UP COMES ON ITS OVER

[@arzabala23]

Nicely said

[@user-ll5bm3dz7p]

Nah

[@sidohofman6835]

Great comment 💯

[@larrydillard4126]

13- 7 Pac and that's being nice

[@VANGUARDIANTV100]

More like 17-3 Pac...imo.

[@thatguyfrom313]

I had 12-8 Pac

[@TravelwithRia92]

Facts!

[@uriellevelupriley684]

And that's being nice💯👑👑👑👑👑

[@livelifels2726]

That’s being EXTREMELY NICE

[@projectedthoughts6046]

Pac was just on another level

[@odini6235]

Yeah 10 levels under Biggie. Good we both agree.

[@cylvaniaallen4498]

Regen - Above

[@aminatak1985]

@@odini6235 always above lmaoo, biggie is pac made

[@odini6235]

@@aminatak1985 If biggie was pac made he would have been 7 inches shorter, bald, ballerina dancer and bi sexual

[@shaunphillips3236]

@@odini6235 there's something about a person that speaks on someone else's sexuality that ALWAYS seems suspect af to me (especially when it's a guy)

[@evepires6286]

I'm not a fan of rapping! Till Tupac came along. Love him till this day. I truly believe he would have gone into politics. At this moment, the world could use him. Tensions running high. He would have the right words. I'm a grandma of 3 BLK young men. I'm white. I see people standing up for what's right. I don't like the violence. Good trouble you all. BLK Lives Matter.

[@lg3385]

"We done with vs" Next week - 2chainz vs. Ross Pac had more impactful records.

[@coachtee6394]

Str8 Ballin' ? Pour out a litlle liquor... Pac easy on this one. And this coming from a Biggie fan

[@lg3385]

That Thug Life Vol 1 is 🔥

[@matthewzablocki5310]

Im a hard biggie fan. Ive heard biggie's battle raps. In an actual battle, big wld body pac. No don't go by their beef, only reason big didn't go back and forth was cause he knew in his heart ppl were feeding his paranoia of biggie setting him up(if you follow pac, you'd know pac was a very paranoid person). And biggie didn't want pac thinking he did set him up . Also, pac shot himself the night he got robbed. He went to pull his gun and it went off.

[@focusedl5017]

Right. Easy work bra. BIG don’t have the catalog. His subject matter too all the dame. Pac has variety.

[@DealwiththeReal]

Juicy J? This is clown shit

[@hugosanchez9221]

Thugz mansion came out after he died and it’s still missing

[@rockkzillatv444]

But Pac did 4 verses on So Many Tears, that's auto

[@solid-data8826]

That shit & picture me rolling touched a nerve when niggaz said Big over them two joints

[@ugladden]

“WE DROPPED RECORDS THEY FELT!” -Tupac

[@qua_ntitans7615]

Big is great In his own right one of the greatest to ever do it but 2pac hits different it's like he talks to ur soul u feel it different life goes on hits different bruh

[@crazyace88]

The New York bias is real. Lol

[@BigWill007]

What’s NY bias? I’m not even from NY and I’ll tell you Juicy J versus Nas is ridiculous.

[@uncleshannon1756]

Will juicy was wash nas yall going by his name juicy has way more hits than nas nas a better rapper and his choice of beats hurt him

[@BigWill007]

Uncle Shannon I don’t dislike Juicy J bro... Nas is just on a totally different level in rap. That’s just a bad matchup. Put Juicy J up against someone like Busta Rhymes or Missy. Or someone from the south with the same style.

[@uncleshannon1756]

Will that’s the thing bro that don’t matter in a verzus nas wouldn’t be able to keep up nas in my top 5 but in a verzus juicy j would wash nas it wouldn’t be close

[@crazyace88]

I'm talking about the 2pac vs biggie comparison. Whoever kept score totally did that wrong

[@hellalive8973]

Pac was too prolific for BIG to have a chance. Hit ‘em up plays first game over 😂

[@Phantomiam]

Everybody knows hit em up plenty other Pac songs

[@Synchronite]

Hit em up recycled garbage beat Sorry ass verses from the outlaws Barely rhyming on beat

[@hateisasignofenvy651]

@@Synchronite lies

[@Sappa9702]

@@Synchronite Now, say it without tears in your eyes

[@hateisasignofenvy651]

@@Sappa9702 😂😂😂😂😂 he from Brooklyn too

[@michael43567]

Keep ya head up is hella underrated. My favourite Pac joint

[@natejones8539]

Is it underrated?? Everybody I know loves that song.

[@PersonnetaimeGuy]

Nate Jones SOME SAY THE BLACKER THE BERRY THE SWEETER THE JUICE I SAY THE DARKER THE FLESH AND THE DEEPER THE ROOTS

[@natejones8539]

SCOOP facts bro. That song is timeless. One of my all time favorites.

[@PersonnetaimeGuy]

Nate Jones That joint plus Brenda’s got a baby is Pac’s best work imo

[@natejones8539]

SCOOP It’s close, Dear Mama is right there for me.

[@RolandAgambaki]

"So many tears" is one of the greatest songs ever..

[@mikeandmars2345]

Factssss

[@thejokersonyou]

Pac's catalog is too "big" for BIG for a 20 vs 20

[@user-qd6im2hp2e]

Janet has at least 50. The Janet disrespect gotta stop. Janet has *classic hits from the 80s* ; Control, Rhythm Nation, Miss you much, Pleasure Principle, Let’s wait a while, Black Cat, what have you done for me lately, when I think of you, Nasty. *Classic 90s hits* ; I Get Lonely, Thats the way love goes, Any time/Any place (Which Kendrick sampled on Poetic Justice), Gone till it’s gone with Q-Tip, What’s it gonna be with Busta, Scream with MJ, Come Back to me, Again, Love Will Never Do, The Best Things In Life Are Free with Luther Vandross, If, Because of love, Runaway. *2000s hits* ; All for you, doesn’t matter, I want you, Call on me. Janet has *10 Billboard hot 100 hits* and *27 Top 10 hits*

[@shan3232]

Name 20 from Janet

[@DreamFactories]

Cap

[@D_Mashups]

When I think of you Pleasure of the principle Funny how time flies Let’s wait awhile Escapade Nasty Control What have you done for me Miss you much Alright Come back to me Rhythm of nation That’s the way love goes Anytime anyplace If Again Scream I get lonely Got til it’s gone ft Q-Tip Doesn’t really matter All for you Would you Mind That’s 22 tracks

[@shan3232]

@@D_Mashups I will replace would you mind with what it's going to be

[@user-qd6im2hp2e]

Kathryn Dorsey facts

[@kalaniortiz6732]

Don't forget pacs hellrazor is 💯

[@yungworldz]

Hellrazor is so underrated and one of my favorite Pac songs.

[@kalaniortiz6732]

@@yungworldz another song that I feel is underrated from 2pac is ballad of a dead Soulja

[@joel_holmes]

Probably his most heartfelt song ever

[@Uptown2525]

Hellraizor is so strong. That pain was real.

[@hoggybhoy1967]

Levels. Tupac all day.

[@toomuch11434]

Pac catalog is to big for biggie ..

[@saynomo6168]

It isn't about who has more songs

[@toomuch11434]

@This Lost name them ,but leave the ones off the life after death album off cause he wasnt here for that .. they just took a bunch of bit and pieces and add ppl to the songs

[@dmxisbetterthantupac6528]

Dmx better than both

[@grinchoi1]

@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 nah...

[@shaunphillips3236]

2Pac beat Biggie 15-5, it could've easily been 17-3

[@inspectahdex]

Joe thank you for standing up for So Many Tears. It's the better record, but of course not the bigger record

[@slip-n-rollboxing1826]

I been a pac fan since 1991. So many tears was a classic. Biggie has no song that can stand up to that.

[@Raiders-wm5kb]

@@slip-n-rollboxing1826 Niggaz Bleed

[@ashleydavis7448]

​@@Raiders-wm5kbnah

[@Raiders-wm5kb]

@@ashleydavis7448 far superior track if u wanna do a verzus let me no.

[@ashleydavis7448]

@@Raiders-wm5kb I ain't fucking with it

[@LJones17]

Joe is on point...So Many Tears is untouchable

[@deenojones7252]

There is not a rapper alive who can get with PAC. He was the first to ever use voices modules and aiuto tune. He was the first to utilize multiple tracks of his voice layered in the background. First to consistently sing his songs on tracks as he rapped Lastly his Passion was and is what really makes him the greatest of all time.

[@jeffreyhudson4993]

They definitely showing they New York bias

[@keemistry01]

@Ron-Jacques Dessalines said by a new yorker

[@user-qd6im2hp2e]

Ron-Jacques Dessalines Nope NY bias is real. Joe proved that in this video.

[@JesusDisciple916]

@Ron-Jacques Dessalines nah, bruh. For the most part, people are biased towards music from their coast. Not saying everyone, but for the majority of folks, not just NY dudes, it's normal to gravitate towards music from their own region. A lot even do it unintentionally.

[@keemistry01]

@Ron-Jacques Dessalines whats OT and everyone has a bias why is everyone so triggered by it

[@jplusofficial]

Pac was born in NY. Lived there til he was 17 and died at 25. This is NY vs NY.

[@saucedupconley6455]

Pac still had hits after he died, like 10 years after his death. The song Pac's life with T.I. was a hit. Please 2 Pac had hits before Biggie even got signed. So we know Pac wins it period.

[@Topsey2000]

Pac's life lol? Ok....

[@Israel-nb7ip]

@@Topsey2000 lol these stans will say anything.

[@saucedupconley6455]

Proof is in the music. End of story. You say what you want but the music will speak for itself. They put up the song with big and bone but n0t bone and pac.

[@lextriche9891]

Agreed but never mention Pac’s Life song or album 😂

[@saucedupconley6455]

@@lextriche9891 not a perfect song but it did numbers years after his death. So thats why I brought it up. Because of how long he was deceased and still was in the charts with the newcomers.

[@kwilbeats1833]

I dont see anyone being able to compete with Tupac's body of work...That man was something special RIP

[@LaVishWon]

Rory is wrong as hell on this one when talking about Hit em up vs Who Shot ya

[@goatman380]

Hit em up vs long kiss goodnight is a better matchup

[@user-qd6im2hp2e]

X You Hit em up still wins but yeah classic RZA production on long kiss goodnight

[@timkruse9912]

@@goatman380 hit em up by farrrr, he name dropped niggas on that shit and it was a diss track that you can play in the club, radio everywhere!!!!

[@goatman380]

Tim Kruse long kiss goodnight goes harder than hit em up, when you realize that he’s dissing pac. Long kiss goodnight is the better and more vicious song. You could skip hit em up, after the first verse.

[@yahchaazawan6604]

Who shot ya more lyrical

[@rooftopkorean999]

cmon man PAC kills big sheesh be real stop with the bias in songs, style, realness, swag, etc...everything PAC did was bigger than most of the stars beyond rap

[@eratik_oz_solo2699]

Idk about swag Pac was dressing like a gay biker for abit

[@odini6235]

Yeah pac was bi sexual, and the way you are talking about pac makes me think you are to?

[@user-ll5bm3dz7p]

I know you didn’t say realness lol you didn’t know Pac was a wannabe gangsta it’s why he kept getting shot

[@20lovejay]

@@eratik_oz_solo2699 stop it pac made swag he was wearing karl karni foh

[@amoneybags11vernon78]

10 crack commandments was dope but not messing with shed so many tears

[@jayinri6658]

Them songs dont even match up

[@shaunphillips3236]

@Aaron Robles bruh So Many Tears was a EXTREMELY versatile song that still gets radio play ESPECIALLY on old school rap stations. If I recall correctly, 10 Crack Commandments wasn't even a single 🤣😂. Let's put it like this, Biggie (for the most part) made regional songs but Pac made national & global songs (for the most part). It's something that we can all relate to

[@shaunphillips3236]

@Aaron Robles the only person that could actually rival Em is Pac. Nothing against the rest 2Pac beat Biggie 15-5 & it could've easily been 17-3

[@shaunphillips3236]

@Aaron Robles being completely honest with you, the ONLY person that's even remotely close to PAC is Em in terms of hit vs hit. BIGGIE was a regional artist (for the most part). He had a few national hits but PAC made national & global songs (for the most part). 2PAC was bigger than music thus he's an ICON where Biggie was just another great artist

[@shaunphillips3236]

@Aaron Robles bruh I'm from Chicago. B.I.G don't get as much love or radio play like that here or going more westward. Again, that's why I said Biggie was more so a regional artist vs Pac that was a national & global artist. There's levels to this & Biggie not touching PAC. Nowhere near 2PAC 💯

[@timanthagoff4060]

They were so wrong on So Many Tears.... That song is amazing

[@brotherprophet]

They need to try to do this versus battle with holograms of Pac and Big. It could be done. 🤔🤷‍♂️😏👍👌💪

[@powerfulcornelius3285]

You’re asking for waayyyy too much. They’re gone and BIG is the GOAT.

[@lionellogginll]

@@powerfulcornelius3285 Pac is the GOAT

[@dawb86]

@@lionellogginll LOL, they both goats. It's like the ancient Egyptians. We don't argue who was the greatest pharaoh because now after any biased is lost to time we're just astounded by their accomplishments period. One day we'll all realize that great is great period, not greater than necessarily.

[@shaunphillips3236]

@@powerfulcornelius3285 B.I.G is NOT the GOAT. He's nowhere near Pac status. Biggie made songs that were mostly the party & BS type songs: 1. Money 2. Cars 3. Clothes 4. Hoes 5. Drug game That was basically his entire repertoire. He was good with wordplay. 2Pac beat Biggie 15-5. It could've EASILY been 17-3. 2Pac made national & global songs (for the most part) while Biggie's was regional (for the most part). 2Pac was bigger than music, Biggie isn't

[@IG9611]

Tupac eazzzzzzzy!....😂 I understand the East Coast bias due to their location but the people will let you KNOW! Tupac is one of the top rappers of all time that still has fans around the GLOOOOOBE young AND old that Big can't mess with!....🌍 There will never be another Pac' (1 of 1) with that Panther background, militant mindset, penchant for reading, and just all out work ethic and passion. Even to this day people still try and copy what he tried to do as far as studio grind and persona and he's been gone almost 25 years. 1 of 1 forever...💯💪🏾💯

[@michael43567]

picking between Pac & Big is like picking between your brain & heart

[@mroctober3583]

You must be from NY then.

[@manifestingmotivation1515]

Pac all day. He's in a class all of his own. Two different artist. Lyrically and intellectually. Bigg is more for low vibrational humans. Now those with who care about substance, intelligence, and an overall higher vibrating human is rocking with Pac.

[@bus2776]

Robin eloquently put ✌🏽

[@ueharajunior21]

The hell you talking about? Big is one of the greatest story tellers and has substance and lyrics. "Things Done Changed", "Juicy", "Everyday Struggle", "Somebody's Got to Die", "Kick in the Door", "Niggas Bleed". Come on bro.

[@bus2776]

Uehara Junior still elementary school compared to Pac. I mean Big was nice, diff flavor but he don’t/can’t compare to pac. That’s like comparing apples to oranges! They both fruits but have diff flavor, color and taste

[@arzabala23]

Pac is just that guy u know

[@bigsam_1007]

😂😂said low vibrant humans

[@hershey7wood]

"Never had a Friend Like Me" against whatever...PAC

[@joel_holmes]

Facts

[@Darkiie]

You don’t need a Tupac Vs Biggie Verzuz Battle... people literally put them up against each other everyday and it’s pointless if they ain’t alive. Nas Vs. Jay - that’s a battle I wanna see.

[@_IsrealPerez]

Nas vs Jay would be all fun and games until Nas play Ether lol jk

[@BeexDubb]

”Rockefeller died of aids, that was the end of his chapter. & thats who y’all chose to name y’all company after?” Nas wins 12 rounds

[@christopherayettey4390]

HOV WONT EVEN COME OUT IF PAC CAME OUT!! LOL

[@JorgeCastro-ui3pi]

Biggie all day and that’s me being biased as fuck.

[@BeexDubb]

Is Makes Music Facts, what jay gonna play? that pillow talk diss? Since he couldn’t attack Nas character he goes after his ex bbymomma.

[@dirtyanwar]

2pacs winning ALL DAY!!!!

[@palehorserider1407]

This dude believes in NASA ur disqualified

[@TheBryans005]

Easily Lol Bias New Yorkers funny Af 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dirtyanwar]

@@palehorserider1407 lol 😆

[@2KILLAVILLE]

Biggie All Day Everyday when it comes to Sharp Storytelling & Wordplay Rhyming Lyrical Skills

[@dirtyanwar]

@@2KILLAVILLE ok fair enough, but a Verzez battle is about hits nothing else,j ust who has the most hit records and 2pac has waayyyyy more "Hits" than biggie, thats just facts

[@SuperJj1991]

2pac have over 400 songs. Biggie probably has something around 70 songs. Tupac unreleased tracks are better than biggie whole catalog

[@BigTone999]

Fam, you ain't even lying, Hell 4 a Hustler OG, Things are changing OG, so many Pac songs woulda been bonifide hits.

[@kristopherdavis2715]

Pac was AN ICON before he even knew it! The talents that man had was just wow. There are certain artists that can’t be defeated in a verzuz! Period! PAC, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin, Beyoncé, R. Kelly, Mary J. Blige! Gotta respect it! Their music transcends and definitely moves with the times!

[@coolnesss16]

Pac. No matter what

[@TheAlkebulanTrust]

If you're talking a VERZUZ battle song for song. Tupac wins. His catalogue is enormous filled with hits...True or correct?

[@Messiah_Black]

Debatable

[@askia81]

True

[@Synchronite]

Negative

[@Messiah_Black]

Dwayne Hogan As much as I like Pac’s music, with the exception of Dear Mama & the singles off All Eyes On Me, Pac had very few “major” hits compared to Biggie at that time. Biggie went gold his first single out, & platinum with every other single until his death. They literally had to eliminate a lot of Biggies more iconic songs on this list just to give Pac the advantage, & the JBP boys still had Biggie winning it by 2. They put Tupac’s 2 biggest songs up against 2 of Biggie’s B-Sides out the gate!?! You tryna tell me there was no bias? No Party & Bullshit, No Victory, No All About The Benjamin’s, No Dead Wrong, No The What, No Gimmie The Loot, No Long Kiss Goodnight, No Realest Niggas, No Flava In Ya Ear... C’mon man, stop playin. You look at that list & try to tell me w/ a straight face this guy accurately represented Biggie’s “Top 20” biggest hits

[@uriellevelupriley684]

Pac would WIN.

[@odini6235]

nope

[@lfbashir2967]

To keep it 100 it's Pac. Big was a beast but when you look at it on a global level, people LOVE Biggie's songs but they love 2Pac songs, his interviews, poetry, style and story. It's not fair to Biggie to even compare

[@Raiders-wm5kb]

HE more iconic because of his image not his music.

[@slumgawdmorocco4227]

Joe said NO YOU DONT😂😂 THEY REMEMBER KATO😂😂😂

[@carbon.the.christ5626]

Whoever made this list felt so bad for Biggie getting washed in the first round,they had to throw some weaker Pac records in that second round against Biggies best to help him out lol.

[@20lovejay]

oms😭😭😭💀

[@armondbutler5814]

Mall do not need to be talkin about rap music. He doesn't even know the songs.

[@quiks.groove]

I swear

[@artvandelay1393]

'Victory' - B.I.G.'s last and best verses 🎤

[@johnspinelli4983]

His last verses were so fire also his last features with sha and Tracy lee

[@OldChanCharlie]

Love Big but Pac has the Best Greatest Hits album of all time.

[@odini6235]

Okay what about 2pacs first 2 albums. Are they any good? Nope both flopped.

[@BigTone999]

@@odini6235They both went Gold from what I remember and they both had classics on there.

[@user-tw7ik8ic2f]

@@odini6235 flopped you are as ridiculous as rory saying Jon b was on the hook of so many tears just don't make any sense 🤣🤣🤣🤣👀🙄🙄🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@Cappysveryown]

They could improve BIG’s songs, Pac’s too but I wasn’t too mad at his. but even with the improvements, Pac got it.

[@Messiah_Black]

I thought the same thing & posted this on the first original video. Obviously whoever picked the lineup has a Tupac bias. It was completely mismatched & a lot of big name biggie songs were missed out. Putting Hit Em Up vs. who shot ya is a no brainer. But up against Notorious Thugs!?! In a versus it doesn’t have to be diss for diss, or story for story, head to head songs for the ladies. It’s just your best 20

[@Cappysveryown]

Messiah Black I feel you on that. I actually wanna make a video with updated songs, maybe 3 or 4 different ones and better matchups. Hail Mary vs. One more chance? That’s not a good matchup. The matchup I’d love to add to it and makes a lot of sense would be Heartz of Men vs. Things Done Changed, I’d add Get Money for BIG as well, Gimme The Loot needs to be in there. Pac needs to have Changes on that battle, Life Goes On, and I’d pick All About U as well but maybe that’s just me.

[@johnspinelli4983]

Man where’s Somebody gotta die, the what, suicidal thoughts, gimme the loot, and let’s not forget my favorite niggas bleed

[@Cappysveryown]

John Spinelli Big Facts. With those, it’s a lot better.

[@Messiah_Black]

Capricorns Very Own Yeah I think I put Victory up against Hail Mary in my other post. But yeah No Gimmie The Loot, Everyday Struggle, Get Money, Dead Wrong. It’s like Miss You against Dear Mama? C’mon man, at least put it up against Sky’s The Limit. Pac needed Staring through My Rearview, Holler If Ya Hear Me, Smile, & Pour Out A Little Liqour, but I’m not as mad at Pacs lineup as I was Biggie’s.

[@thesexxiestofbp]

Dude said Jon B was on So many Tears . This tells you he is not capable of judging this battle

[@tonysunshine5727]

That THUG LIFE Volume 1 album is a classic. If you dont know about it you dont F wit Pac!! Every song is an instant classic. How Long Will They Mourn Me? Pour Out A Little Liquor, Str8 Ballin? WHAT?? Still today in my top 5 albums of all time!

[@topsouljas1]

Pac has tooooo many Classics... I love Big but no battle at all

[@odini6235]

Biggie had way more than pac

[@topsouljas1]

@@odini6235 I love Big too but come on bro even Big would say you Reaching

[@truthblunt]

Pac wins this, his catalogue was crazy! They was struggling with that New York bias. It was only close with the bias🤣🤣

[@BigTone999]

Fam lol

[@thegreatone6272]

I never got why people don’t like Big as much. I feel like song for song album for album nobody executed an album from top to bottom better than Big. Bigs only two albums are better than alotta people’s greatest hits. PAC was great but he wasn’t a perfectionist. He would make one song then on to the next which is why he beats big in catalog but musically and rhythmically I don’t think he’s touching big if we talk back to back hits. To me big was the greatest. He made have had less music but there weren’t much skippable tracks

[@thegreatone6272]

soid drone slayer your reply proves you didn’t comprehend what I was saying. I said nothing about lyrical prowess. I said “musically and rhythmically” if you take the small of songs Big did compared to PAC then of course PAC wins. But in that small amount of songs it’s hard to find a weak track and the albums if you ask were executed flawlessly. The only PAC album from top to bottom that to me compares to big is Me Against The World. All Eyes on Me had too many filler tracks and I didn’t like some of the production compared to Biggies Life After Death.

[@amareshkaimal2972]

its that stevie sample that makes shed so many tears

[@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154]

I love both Gemini’s but it’s Pac. His discog is better. Simple. It was Pac when they were alive too. Not by a wide margin tho. Makaveli Is his greatest project but it might be one of the most unsung of his last three albums.

[@thetruth-cn6ns]

Makaveli is not his best all eyes on me is

[@conduitofthegospeldarrellb9154]

the truth AOE is his best major release but it’s not his best body of work. Had the most hits he’s had on an album (double). But not the best. Lot of filler records. It’s either Me Against The World or Makaveli

[@rallacewasheed1422]

Plus the dude wrote Makaveli in 2 wks.... This is too regional though. The south is Pac territory... lol We love & respect Big but that Pac just hit different... lol

[@scarletbouvier520]

Funny...pacs zodiac sign should've been half ballerina and half pony

[@thetruth-cn6ns]

@@scarletbouvier520 whoa girl chill

[@TheStop]

It was this pod when i realized So Many Tears gets 10 crack commandments outta here

[@Synchronite]

Take that avatar down

[@gucci2tymes715]

Yo parks trying hit that so many tears 😭 instrumental has me in tears 😭 comedy af

[@bhillboy37]

Pac's Fuck the World is a 5 verse masterpiece.

[@akeemalston7506]

10 crack commandments over So many tears? Mall nuts 🥜

[@TrilariousEnt]

The bias is bleeding from their ears at this point man🤦🏿‍♂️

[@BeexDubb]

He wanna be the corner boy at 40 years old lol

[@anthonycelestin3559]

Does Biggie have lyrics on Pac's So Many Tears like "My every move is a calculated step, to bring me closer to embrace an early death, now it's nothing left."

[@TrilariousEnt]

Anthony Celestin the man said “I been really wanting babies so I could see a part of me that wasn’t always shady. Don’t trust my lady she’s a product of this poison” like what?!! That one bar is so deep. Who can really self assess and reflect like Pac?

[@jplaya2023]

Mal dont even know the song he thought it was r u still down

[@Derek4k]

how they disrespect All Eyez on ME??? the entourage episode where it came on at the credits, i came in my pants

[@Sprezza_tura]

You should watch Master of none, the religion episode. The intro with pac is 🔥🔥🔥

[@rasaanshakur9491]

Haha which episode was it

[@Sprezza_tura]

Rasaan Shakur season 2, episode 3 Religion

[@TravelwithRia92]

I’m sorry but no one is winning against pac. His music is way to versatile.

[@thegoat3153]

and he got way more songs than most artists even today. Pac died and was still droppin double disc deluxe albums lol

[@grinchoi1]

Thank you!

[@bus2776]

I agreed 💯 سلام U bad MashaAllah 😉 if that’s yo real pic ! Beautiful and tantalizing. Just givin u the proper accolades, paying homage and lifting up ur morality with sum kind words that’s all not tryna holla!

[@TravelwithRia92]

Bus ! Aww seen it now 😘 thank you so much again! I made a couple of comments so I’m just noticing all the replies lol. Thanks again ❤️

[@bus2776]

Badria np keep ya head up. We are descendants of royalty. Kings & Queens

[@ChimcharrNo1]

Tupac has like 3 songs for every 1 biggie has lmao

[@tom-tomkeller357]

More than that you being nice over 700 👨🏽‍💻

[@coleeason6007]

And you're being hella nice with that

[@odini6235]

yeah and every time biggie wins

[@tom-tomkeller357]

@@odini6235 bro Only in Ny dont act like a Karen mother day dear momma Farther day" you look so good I want to suck your " you know the rest bet you wont say that to your girlfriend I can keep going with other songs but I well stop😤✌🏾

[@odini6235]

@@tom-tomkeller357 2pac did dance ballerina in high school. Dont see to much thug life in that.

[@youngcity4241]

Tupac has wayyyyyyy to many songs....

[@2pacisgay955]

Tupac has wayyyyyyyy too many lames for fanboys

[@scarletbouvier520]

Pac had wayyyyyy too many ballet corsets in his closet

[@bluekriss193]

PAC still making songs TILL THIS DAY! Lol

[@MacP12]

It’s 20 v 20

[@thejokersonyou]

Prince vs Michael Jackson wld b fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mjrowden]

MJ winning

[@Reezer83]

Prince winning, mj more hits. Prince wrote , recorded, played and produced them all himself. Mj didn't do any of that. 🤣

[@user-qd6im2hp2e]

Reezer83 MJ wrote 75% of his solo music. He wrote some of his biggest hits and best songs; Don’t stop till you get enough, Workin day n nite, Billie Jean (his biggest hit ever), Beat it, the girl is mine, Wanna be startin somethin, Bad, Liberian Girl, Smooth Criminal, Speed Demon, The Way You Make Me Feel, Another Part Of Me, Leave Me Alone, Dirty Diana, Earth Song, Stranger in Moscow. He wrote all those songs by himself. He also wrote 6/9 songs on the Jackson 5 Triump album (1980) including Can’t You Feel it. Mike has been in the songwriters hall of fame since 2002. You’re bugging mike is a legendary song writer. Also he created the beat for Billie Jean by beat boxing it and told the musicians how to play it and it did that with other songs too and he co-produced the Bad album with Quincy. It would be close but Mike has hits from 70s, 80s, 90s and early 2000s. Also prince got help with some of the writing from the revolution.

[@user-qd6im2hp2e]

Kathryn Dorsey yeah would be close

[@Reezer83]

@@user-qd6im2hp2e thats bullshit. Why do you think you see minimum of 5 writers with every song he "wrote"" and because they were such big hits and his name is on it he is in that hall off fame. That says nothing. A guys that writes his own music doesn't need other writers and not even talking about the number of other writers.

[@stagee3529]

Parks doing the So Many Tears sound is the funniest thing

[@kingofgames1986]

Joe i hope you get this. Do more vs video i like this. One of your best videos.