Turbocharging a 6-71 Detroit Diesel

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High Voltage Diesel

High Voltage Diesel

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@johnblood3731
@johnblood3731 Жыл бұрын
As a 16 year dd parts guy i think you did a great job building this setup. You ought to get a size bigger injectors and some turbo pistons. Take care.
@moondogdieselworks3883
@moondogdieselworks3883 Жыл бұрын
Very cool 😎
@kelvintorrence5994
@kelvintorrence5994 11 ай бұрын
love that old scearming deamon soundgreat fiux
@jimconstantine6187
@jimconstantine6187 3 жыл бұрын
You are a great fabricator and an excellent driver. You're shifting is perfect. No clutch and no overrevving. Very enjoyable video!
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you much. I had good teacher's I give that credit to!
@kevanrice2971
@kevanrice2971 Жыл бұрын
Love sound off of engine for my fellow gearheads
@michaelhallman7296
@michaelhallman7296 3 жыл бұрын
There’s like 7 whole minutes of just pure driving. I love it
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
I see so many great sounding truck driving videos and most are so short. I just love hearing them sounds. That's why I decided to do the full drive! Figured worse case just fast forward it. Thanks!
@fredfeldmeier8228
@fredfeldmeier8228 Жыл бұрын
Great turbo job.. Nice truck 🚛 Nice video 👍 Thanx..
@tonyfreeman5048
@tonyfreeman5048 3 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see someone who knows how to run a Detroit not trying to throw the rods before shifting
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, exactly no reason to wind it out every gear. Especially with no load on truck and on level ground
@mikecorleone6797
@mikecorleone6797 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisgleba3121 Detroit mechanic here 🙋🏻‍♂️ you need to run it like you stole it or your ports will close up solid with carbon... also use straight sae 30 weight in winter and sae 40 in summer or you will gall your rings and cylinders... I’m tearing down a 671 as we speak that has the exhaust ports on the liners almost closed off solid.. carbon came loose in 1 cylinder and destroyed cylinder 3 piston.. unless you want to show people how to guesstimate a rebuild i suggest you start revving the piss out of it.. however with that turbo I’d at least put some n70 injectors in it to offset the boost leaning out your fuel mix.. i bet your egt’s are through the roof with that turbo now
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikecorleone6797 someday I'll destroy that Detroit and put a 3406 Cat in it like I originally planned LoL.
@mikecorleone6797
@mikecorleone6797 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisgleba3121 even more of a reason to smash your foot to the floor
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikecorleone6797 haha some day when i can afford to! All the trucks i ever had were caterpillar powered. After years of driving them anything else is gutless junk lol 😂. DD is good engine for toy truck just to drive around and go to shows. But i work this IH and it'd be nice to go up a slight hill empty more than 20 mph ha. But the DD is way better than the gas that was in there at least!
@25vrd48
@25vrd48 3 жыл бұрын
Turbo charging a 6-71 , I've been searching for this information and now your video just popped up on KZbin . AWESOME VIDEO Kurtis , Thank you sir for an excellent video . A 6-71 is in my future for sure and yes it'll be turbo charged . I worked on the welded rail trains on Union Pacific Railroad and operated the power cars that had two 6-71's that were mounted up top by the operators cab . Engines were mounted with the rear closest to the cab and had sucker fans blowing back my way over the engine and three big hydraulic pumps . In the south around Arkansas , Texas , Oklahoma , Louisiana and the other hot states it was really tough in the heat but helped a little in the cold weather . Start both engines , idle and engage the clutch drive slowly to get the pumps working to heat the hydraulic oil and then open the throttle wide open . Twin 6-71's screaming all day was heaven , Love their sound , finally had to route the exhaust under the rail cars as it got bad . I can identify a screaming old Detroit Diesel from far away . Such a sweet sound . I'll be a subscriber for as long as I live . Can't wait to watch your previous videos and future videos . Great video sir .
@matthewchipman5596
@matthewchipman5596 2 жыл бұрын
You sure know what you are doing. On the Turbocharger. My father did Diesel Repair work, of all types. From 1965-2000. He likes being fully retired in 2020.
@jasoncolavecchia8884
@jasoncolavecchia8884 3 жыл бұрын
One plus to turbocharging these engines, even at low pressures, is much better performance at higher elevations. Regardless of ambient air pressure, the turbo will maintain optimum psi in the manifold as you climb or decend grades in mountain areas.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. My theory exactly. Thanks
@johnharrisonpippin7126
@johnharrisonpippin7126 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool!! Reminds me of my high school days, working construction in the summers of the mid 70's. The contractor had 3 of these he bought used and put dump beds on them. Three Detroit's warming up at 6 am getting ready to go for the day...rev'n up and down. It was like "Apocalypse Now"; love the smell of Detroit diesels warming up in the morning!! 👍👍
@soopa2doopa268
@soopa2doopa268 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done, beautiful rig! Sounds great.
@mattt198654321
@mattt198654321 3 жыл бұрын
That turbo is freakin gigantic next to that engine...I love it!
@dandable
@dandable 3 жыл бұрын
Straight up genius right there. Master fabricator. I have a little Kubota 4wd tractor I’d love to throw a turbo on. Thanks for the entertaining video. 500 points of boost here we come!!!
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, I'd love to see that. Go for it! Thanks for the comment
@allenlarabie8854
@allenlarabie8854 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who knows how to shift gears. 👍🏼👍🏼
@paulmcclain920
@paulmcclain920 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Haven't figured out if it is a 10 speed or an 8 speed. Smooth shifting and proper use of the power band. 671s generally like to run from 1800 to 2100 rpms.
@Focussed-vk6wt
@Focussed-vk6wt 3 жыл бұрын
An ASMR clip of Detroit diesels would be wonderful. Could listen to this all day
@buddyobuddy1
@buddyobuddy1 3 жыл бұрын
Finally finally someone on here that can shift a detroit without killing it.
@alexandrefreddi7214
@alexandrefreddi7214 3 жыл бұрын
One day I will change gears like you. Perfectly shifting. Thanks for the video.
@Gr33kChief
@Gr33kChief 3 жыл бұрын
nice call on the difference on the 2 stroke and 4 stroke comparison. this is why 500cc 2 strokes raced in the same class as 1000cc 4 strokes in motogp for a year. The HP is almost the same yet the engines are very different beasts
@samuelanketell8190
@samuelanketell8190 2 жыл бұрын
Good job mate 👍 that's an Angry sounding old beast 🤘holy shit it looks cold over there, G'day from Australia 🇦🇺 👋
@nickstafford9736
@nickstafford9736 2 жыл бұрын
love the sound of the turbo good job installing
@craigjohnson7334
@craigjohnson7334 3 жыл бұрын
Sound awesome. I love that old sound of the V6-71 Detroit diesel. I also remember some of autocar trucks had that too but with out the turbo.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Yes they are an awesome sounding engine! Thanks for the comment!
@midixiewrecked7011
@midixiewrecked7011 3 жыл бұрын
It's not a v6
@ralfie8801
@ralfie8801 3 жыл бұрын
It's a 6-71, not a 6V-71.
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 2 жыл бұрын
Nice build. Consider adding a pyrometer, adding Propane or Alcohol injection with boost-variable regulator for more HP. Sounds great !
@stevekastner2825
@stevekastner2825 2 жыл бұрын
Cool truck, beautiful snow
@grngs1
@grngs1 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet video! Best I've seen with a Detroit Diesel, awesome driving!!
@TDIMAXDIESEL
@TDIMAXDIESEL 3 жыл бұрын
What a nice project ! Very good job for the turbo, thanks for sharing 😊🇨🇦
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment! Ill be putting a turbo on my 62 pete soon!
@ceciltrane5418
@ceciltrane5418 3 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed this video too.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and comment. Glad to share!
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you! Glad to share!
@ChipVorhies
@ChipVorhies 3 жыл бұрын
SCREAMING DETROIT !!! If that doesn't get your heart pumping you need to check for a pulse. Music to the ears!👍👍👍
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it sure is! Thanks
@derekhughes9274
@derekhughes9274 3 жыл бұрын
Totally awsome, that's what a truck should sound like.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
I think so too!
@markkrauss5994
@markkrauss5994 Жыл бұрын
That thing sounds freaking sweet
@zacrichie4381
@zacrichie4381 3 жыл бұрын
I have always loved these Detroit diesels, they've always fascinated me. This made me love them even more. Subbed for this!
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear you liked the video! And thank you!!
@TeamTopKick
@TeamTopKick 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool vid. Love when a Detriot gets some love.
@stanleykwiecinski811
@stanleykwiecinski811 3 жыл бұрын
nothing better than a detroit corn binder upgrade.
@verticle2612
@verticle2612 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! You’re making me wanna turbo my 6-71 sawmill engine.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
That'd be awesome. Go for it!. Thanks
@hughwolfe8524
@hughwolfe8524 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, well done
@timkis64
@timkis64 2 жыл бұрын
reminds me of the thousands of hours hearing a 6v92.it seems we have a similar driving style.no need to get in a hurry & rev the piss out of it for no good reason other than a good hill.hills & small detroits with no momentum makes for a long slow ride.even with momentum i climbed many a hill on the low side of the tranny.a few of them i was down to 3rd in a 9 speed.
@russvoight1167
@russvoight1167 8 ай бұрын
My Dad bought a used GMC Brigadier that had a turbo charged 6-71. Called a 6-71T and rated at 275 horse
@waynelarson1576
@waynelarson1576 3 жыл бұрын
I just came across your channel that's super cool when I was young the first truck I learned to drive in was an Old Mack duplex 3x5 the second was a straight 10 international loadstar with the 6v71 the other truck we had that I got to drive was an 8v 71 I believe also with a 3x5 mind you these for all grain trucks but I learned to drive that Mack at 8 years old the first time I drove a strike 10 I didn't know where the second shifter was lol cool videos though and I'm going to watch more of them
@rockcrusher4636
@rockcrusher4636 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, dude excellent, thank you.
@robstruckshop80
@robstruckshop80 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that it’s both a somewhat pointless but completely awesome undertaking. This might just have to be phase 2 of my build- I’m putting a 6-71 into a Loadstar right now. Great work, love the truck.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment Rob. Yes I had quite a smile when I heard that turbo for the first time. Absolutely I'd say go for it it was s fun project. You may want to find a 6v71 or a 8v71 for your loadstar. You seen how much I had to extend hood on mine. A 6v or 8v will be a bit shorter. But hey long hoods are awesome anyhow. My next big project is to move the front axle forward and put peterbilt fenders on it and make a new hood.
@robstruckshop80
@robstruckshop80 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisgleba3121 I’m combining the drivetrain of a fleetstar that came OEM with the 6-71 with the Loadstar body. Since they share the same cab I used the massive doghouse from the fleetstar. You basically sit next to the back of the motor. It’s tight but it fits
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
@My KZbin Channel on the back of the block on the bottom there are 2 1/2 inch plugs. The bottom is the drain and top pressure. It may be different on other models I am not a Detroit expert. I set a very low blow off pressure like 5 psi because I don't want to hurt anything. But I do feel better performance when I drive it.
@kellywilson8440
@kellywilson8440 3 жыл бұрын
Man that sounds great , Beautiful truck you got !
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@hotrodhootie
@hotrodhootie 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome i love them 2 cycle detroit.
@supercuda1950
@supercuda1950 3 жыл бұрын
It don't get any beter than the sound of a Detroit diesel and a turbo.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
2 great sounds! Thanks
@jerryanderson5795
@jerryanderson5795 2 жыл бұрын
Great job!! impressing!👍👍👍👍👏💪💪💪💪
@wes11bravo
@wes11bravo 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool truck, Kurtis.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Johnsmith-zi9pu
@Johnsmith-zi9pu 3 жыл бұрын
Good gear floating, a lot of drivers these days can't change gears. Detroit two stokes always sound good.
@johnnycinco723
@johnnycinco723 3 жыл бұрын
hes not even moving, this is bs. You can tell by his speed and tachometer!....JK, great video my brother, the driving is awesome, such great views. Stay safe
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Haha great comment 😜. Thanks 👍
@sethnonya8566
@sethnonya8566 3 жыл бұрын
I love the 671 sound over all the detroits
@alighaderi9927
@alighaderi9927 3 жыл бұрын
that was superrrr awsome !!! i got really enjoyed of ur done👌
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@edwinkauenhofen2404
@edwinkauenhofen2404 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty sweet. Great job.
@newinlet
@newinlet 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Job driving/shifting
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer 3 жыл бұрын
that turbo will work..........however it will be lag and not make much boost. Its not so much about cubic inches, its about horsepower...........a 200hp engine needs a turbo that is for 200hp. The other issue is that cummin's turbo is very LARGE for the application and makes the fitting more difficult. Especially since you can get good cheap turbos from Alibaba Congrats on keeping a classic truck running, thanks for the video and that super glorious sound! There is one upside to low boost............the air temps are very low compared to higher boost that cooks the air (which reduces density/effectiveness). When running 2 compressors ( turbo feeding a blower) for high performance, they use an inter cooler. The biggest plus is that the turbo works best at giving the blower more air when the blower is dropping off at low rpm pulling.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for you comment and advice. Yes that was my main goal was to be more like a ram air intake than a turbo pressure. I figured giving the blower a few lbs of positive pressure would help it too and can't beat the sound! I think I have about $100 in the entire project so for the price it was a lot of fun to do. It did in deed give it a bit more power. I used a brass water check valve for a blow off. It keeps boost around 8 psi at full load. I'll be doing a follow up video on it shortly so stay tuned!
@RommelCart
@RommelCart 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man...im in New zealand,,,tomorrow I start heading down to christchurch to pick up a 6v53 alloy block turbo I've been gifted,,,dont know what its going in yet,,,time will tell,,, woohoo
@plumbs7199
@plumbs7199 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds so sweet ! Well done 👍
@turbogrin
@turbogrin 3 жыл бұрын
Good going on the tutbo install! I'm going to be doing the same on my 4-71
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! I'd love to see it! Thanks
@andrewking9761
@andrewking9761 3 жыл бұрын
4-71T 190hp There's some graders and scrapers on YTube with that engine
@bill8582
@bill8582 2 жыл бұрын
Innovation station. Nice job
@jamiesaunder611
@jamiesaunder611 3 жыл бұрын
Dude that is bad ass
@buick1979
@buick1979 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice job.
@crewcab1984rv
@crewcab1984rv 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job Kurtis,keep it up and keep the videos coming
@juanc.ayalagonzalez4888
@juanc.ayalagonzalez4888 3 жыл бұрын
Yo no hablo su idioma inglés,pero si algun dia algun amigo suyo le traduce esto que le escribo,Que excelente 👌 😉 😁 😊 👍 es ver a personas expertas haciendo estos trabajos técnicos y que parece que toda persona que tuviera este percance,pues lo haría parecido,una reparación completa del problema,si tuviera camiones de mi propiedad,de inmediato me contactarla con este Señor y se convertiria en mi mecánico personal,que destrezas para completar satisfactoriamente este trabajo con el Turbo,el alimentador de lubricante para el Turbo,su inyección de refrescar el aire comprimido del Turbo,las añadiduras que son accesorios imprescindibles del mismo Turbo como sus respectivas juntas que con silicone rojo se le unta y queda mejor adherida las juntas de calor por donde va a pasar la combustión generada por el motor Detroit diésel y lo profesional que queda ese tubo de escape y ese sonido del Turbo,que nítido y espectacular se olle,esos Detroit Diésel con lo llamado "Screaming"(sonido peculiar de todos estos motores Detroit ⛽ diésel),en hora buena,creo,me gustan ver estos videos y no me canso de verlos,soy un avido entusiasta de todos estos videos,me fascina verlos y siempre que pueda así lo haré,Bendiciones.
@59DDP
@59DDP 3 жыл бұрын
that was called a 6121T detroit used on navy small boats
@Tchristman100
@Tchristman100 3 жыл бұрын
When comparing to a 4 stroke, the 71 series has a bore of 4.25" and stroke of 5.00". But not all of the stroke is used for power. The exhaust valves open just before the cylinder ports are exposed so to figure usable cubic inch, most have .95" ports, and the exhaust valve open just before that, so you take off about 1.1" off the stroke and you end up with a stroke of 3.9". So 4.25 ÷2 = 2.125 x 2.125 = 4.515 x 3.1416 = 14.184 x 3.9 = 55.317 x 6 cylinder x 2 stroke = 663.8 actual cu/in compared to 4 stroke. So a turbo from a L10 would be more usable. I turbo'd and air to air intercooled my 8V-71 with bypass blower. With original N65 injectors with 300hp and 800lb/ft torque, then with 7G75 injectors it went to 375hp and 1,125lb/ft torque. REALLY wakes up the engine.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Very good point. I never thought about it like that. What do you think about a turbo from a 478 cu/in diesel 4 stroke? I may possibly compound turbo this engine with that turbo and the one thats on it. The other turbo is off of a m35a2 army truck. 3.5 inch exhaust outlet. Think that turbo is too small?
@davidwolff8878
@davidwolff8878 3 жыл бұрын
cool old truck need to fix tac and or speedometer. love old trucks still puffing smoke
@sharonfrost9332
@sharonfrost9332 Жыл бұрын
Check out GMs model 6121T they were set up with a intercooler and s90 injectors to accommodate the 4valve heads.
@josuemontano9600
@josuemontano9600 Жыл бұрын
Great job man
@greywuuf
@greywuuf 3 жыл бұрын
Have you straightened out the steering wheel yet? That would drive me crazy. ;)
@dennisjohnstone4739
@dennisjohnstone4739 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job, I hope the turbo hanging off the manifold doesn't break it.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing but ive put probably 4000 miles on it since job and still holding up! Thanks
@johnwillia339
@johnwillia339 3 жыл бұрын
sounds great !!
@iceman45ification1
@iceman45ification1 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work!! 👌 Always loved the sound of the old Detroit 2 stroke diesels. Do you have any plans of putting an intercooler later on? Not sure if would be that necessary since boost is fairly low.
@DumbCarGuy
@DumbCarGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the wiper blades operate in that direction. I thought you were in the UK for a minute or so.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 2 жыл бұрын
I customized them. I switched them from air to electric. I fabricated a jeep wiper transmission into it. Thats why they operate like that. Thanks!
@CJohnT
@CJohnT 3 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the DD. Nice job on the gears and fabricating the turbo. I have one question though, to me it looked like the cast iron piece that connected the exhaust pipe to the manifold could be removed and install the turbo in its place. The intake on the supercharger would have to be changed to accommodate the turbo. It looked like the they made that adapter based on the size of the turbo. My dad drove a 67 International 4000 CO, my uncle had an Oliver 1900, so I grew up enjoying the 2 stroke. I now drive a 76 Ford F250 repowered with a 4-53T Detroit, loving every minute of it.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing but that manifold flange was way bigger than the turbo one. So i dont think thats the case on that
@Lotek117
@Lotek117 3 жыл бұрын
You should turn up the fuel pressure a little bit to compensate for the added boost leaning out the mixture, i know its not much but still couldnt hurt and might gain a tiny bit of power and safety.
@bernie232
@bernie232 3 жыл бұрын
Safety? The leaner you run a diesel the safer it is, not like a petrol, quite the opposite.
@mynusopposite6674
@mynusopposite6674 2 жыл бұрын
You have that’s not how a diesel works lol
@andrewking9761
@andrewking9761 3 жыл бұрын
Can fellow Jimmy lovers help me. When converting a natural 6-71 to a turbo where is the oil feed line from. I guess from a blank plug screw near the timing covers. Good fabrication from this guy. These are called pedestal s. I worked for a guy that had a Transtar DCO an 8V71 with a turbo on each bank 4x2. 400+ hp
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Mine was in the right rear side if the block near bottom. The drain was right under it. But may be different on different Detroit's. I'm no expert. It shows where in my video
@hughwolfe8524
@hughwolfe8524 2 жыл бұрын
SWEET 🚜🦅
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, let us know how it holds up.:) Planning a similar build on a 6V71 and putting 9A90's in it.:)
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
I ran it about 500 miles now since video. All is well. It seems to have a little more low end torque and better fuel mileage. Im running about 5psi boost under full load. I used a PVC check valve for a blow off valve. Ill be sure to post a follow up at some point. Thanks!
@detroitgarage9430
@detroitgarage9430 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisgleba3121 Awesome thanks.:)
@andrewking9761
@andrewking9761 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisgleba3121 Great work and YTube upload. Your correct on the 671 v 855 a 6-71T can give a natural Cummins V903 a run for it's money.
@ruxoneto6560
@ruxoneto6560 3 жыл бұрын
It will run good if you std time the cam shafts, best to get silver 6 v-92 turbo
@ruxoneto6560
@ruxoneto6560 3 жыл бұрын
If you can get 9f90 or 9g90 they are a little better than 9a stay from 9c.
@mickhermes1925
@mickhermes1925 3 жыл бұрын
Any issues with adding the turbo to a naturally aspirated 671? My mechanic told me the compression ratios are different for the engines, therefore I couldn`t add one to my boat engine.
@johnblood3731
@johnblood3731 Жыл бұрын
They use different pistons. Take care
@akawireguy1197
@akawireguy1197 3 жыл бұрын
Great build, you have a good communication style and explain your thoughts well. '77 Gillig bus with an 855 Cummins first generation and a Fuller 5 speed. What should my RPM's be for shifting up? I can float the gears but the trans acts like there's no synchros in it when I try to use the clutch. Double clutching doesn't help. I'm wondering if I'm not bringing the revs up high enough. Beautiful old bus still all original except motorhomeized but done to preserve the original look. I'm wondering if I'm looking at building the transmission or am I not doing it correctly.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. So the less number of gears you have the higher you need to bring rpms up to shift. On something like a 10 speed or 18 speed you'd shift just over idle. Just grab another one right after the other. A 5 speed the gears are farther apart so id say youd get it up to 15 to 1800 rpm to shift. Cat and Cummins you wait longer in between gears it takes longer for the engine to slow. Especially on a 5 speed. It will take a long time for engine to slow to speed of next gear. A Detroit on other hand shifts really fast. You almost cant get it in the next gear fast enough LoL. Caterpillar is the smoothest shifting in my opinion. Of course everything i just told you is based off level ground and empty weight. Taking off loaded or uphill you rev engine higer and
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
And take longer in between gears. Downhill you shift much faster
@akawireguy1197
@akawireguy1197 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisgleba3121 Thank you for that. I will run them up and see if that helps. You gotta know these things were driven by inexpert bus drivers so either I am doing something wrong or the synchros in that Fuller are gone. I'm assuming it was built with synchros. Have you ever rebuilt one of these? I rebuilt the G52 five speed from my Toyota truck so I understand basically but there isn't much information out there on building one.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
@@akawireguy1197 yea im assuming a bus transmission would be synchronized. I had an m35a2 army truck with a 5 speed. All gears had syncros except 1st and reverse. And it was a pain to shift because all the gears were spaced apart different. 1st to 2nd was 600 rpm 2 to 3 was 400 rpm. 4 to 5 was 200 rpm. Where say a roadranger 10 speed is a consistant 300 rpm apart i believe about. So easy to time shift speeds haha. No ive never rebuilt one of them. Id pull the top cover off the trans. Usually you can see the sliding clutches and syncros from there if theres any. Or pull the oil drain plug. If the syncros are that shot you should fing pieces of them in oil or oil would be dark or something
@akawireguy1197
@akawireguy1197 3 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisgleba3121 Can I assume those synchros would be brass? 1977? I don't know what the history of brass vs steel in these transmissions is.
@grampageorge3407
@grampageorge3407 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty good!
@robpeters5204
@robpeters5204 3 жыл бұрын
That’s how you drive a Detroit! Sound so sweet! You don’t have to be raping the dam engine while going through the gears.
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly right! Thanks
@thomassackett4091
@thomassackett4091 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my 1st truck. Looking for small parcel of land,up your way.....I live near rochester. Any available?
@eduardohenriquelima
@eduardohenriquelima 3 жыл бұрын
Very good!
@jameshaskell6572
@jameshaskell6572 2 жыл бұрын
The blower is in the way, I’m not sure if u have done much research on Detriots but if u love the truck and want to keep going find the 671 blowers that have the bypass. Also are you checking boost in the air box or at the blower intake air horn. I would love to see u put some n90 injectors in it and blower bypass then u will be grinning ear to ear. The compression ratio on n/a was 21:1 I think and the t/a was 17.5:1 the motor will be fine I have done this swap before with great results
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 2 жыл бұрын
I have a boost gage yes, it will run about 7psi at full load. I made a makeshift blow off valve out of a plumbing check valve. It gets way better fuel milage from the turbo. I love the truck but when I can afford it im pulling the Detroit out and putting a 3406 cat in it. When i put in the DD i left extra room because I knew one day id want to put a big cat in it
@domusdebellum3042
@domusdebellum3042 3 жыл бұрын
big fat spinny bois puts big fat smiles on my face
@Military-Museum-LP
@Military-Museum-LP 3 жыл бұрын
Well I would have bet you couldn’t have done this. I’m new to your channel. Nice job! Your door ID on the truck says New York but your accent says maybe Wisconsin? Well anyway you have a new subscriber.
@ducharmestudios7157
@ducharmestudios7157 3 жыл бұрын
You should make more videos of this truck, but with more engine reving and on-board videos but at full RPMs.
@greggraves8124
@greggraves8124 3 жыл бұрын
Great shifting but anyone else notice that the Tach & Speedo are always reading 0 regardless of the ENG rpm or ground speed?
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The tach and speedo cables are different from the gas engine that was in yhe truck and higher ratio in the rear end. 3.55 gears and direct trans. Its about 55mph at 1600 rpm. I used my gps to get speeds a few times now i have a good ear for it. I can tell it within 100 rpm normally.
@chocolatte6157
@chocolatte6157 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds smooth
@pete-mate3524
@pete-mate3524 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I'm quickly falling in love with the ol' Detroits. Great fabrication job, too. However, I am wondering, there is a hose attached to the blower pick-up pipe. Is that the intake hose for the compressor, or the 'vent' for the crankcase / engine breather? If it's the crankcase breather, you might want to move it to somewhere before the turbo. Otherwise, you're directing turbo boost into the engine as well. This video was made about 6 months ago, so I'm sure you've sorted it out by now! Ha ha!! Good job!!
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Yes the Detroit is a great reliable engine. A bit underpowered but always gets the job done. That hose is for the air compressor intake. Why not give that some boost too! The turbo made a huge difference on fuel economy and overall performance.
@charleslambiase5670
@charleslambiase5670 3 жыл бұрын
I love this and dude you look just like my son LOL
@roadskare63
@roadskare63 2 жыл бұрын
I know everyone is gonna laugh at me, but I am assuming a 10 speed box?...I am keen on old trucks and love to see them on the roads, but never got a chance to drive one, sooooo I am trying to learn a little bit here and there...when I was a kid out west, COE's were everywhere....now when I see one rolling, I always give the driver a thumbs UP
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome you have a love for old trucks!. It's actually a 15 speed. Dont feel bad. Its the same shift pattern as a 10 speed road ranger but it has 5 deep reduction that are selected on a separate air switch.
@roadskare63
@roadskare63 2 жыл бұрын
@@kurtisgleba3121 Thanks for the info....👍 I learned a lil more today! Pretty cool dump truck too!!
@Stereo4102
@Stereo4102 3 жыл бұрын
International M series truck. . .father of Paystar 5000.
@djaydeved
@djaydeved 3 жыл бұрын
i had the thought of what would happen if you had a detroit 2 stroke with no blower but a turbo only a turbo mind, would you have to use a air compressor to pre spin the turbo to get it to start?
@colewatson3630
@colewatson3630 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm that would be cool
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI Жыл бұрын
Nice. Not bad for a home brewed project for shits and giggles. 👌🙂👍
@williamescolantejr5871
@williamescolantejr5871 3 жыл бұрын
that runs sweet
@evangeloshadjis7542
@evangeloshadjis7542 Жыл бұрын
I have two 16V71 in a crewboat and I would like to make the same...
@user-gf3mu5uc8j
@user-gf3mu5uc8j 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@rustymullins6623
@rustymullins6623 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody find this boy a jake head...he’ll be set for sure then! Lol..
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to got jakes for this thing! Thanks
@RDC_Autosports
@RDC_Autosports 3 жыл бұрын
make sure you take the crank case breather tube off the blower intake of your filling the block full of pressure
@kurtisgleba3121
@kurtisgleba3121 3 жыл бұрын
That tube is the Air compressor intake. The breather tube comes down off of the governor housing. Thanks
@macelius
@macelius 3 жыл бұрын
Small turbo with properly set wastegate and BOV and you can run it with na pistons just to help up hills and with altitude, they called in an anti-smoke turbo. That truck is so ugly it's cute.
@jeffgarrett2114
@jeffgarrett2114 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know what kind of truck that is or what type of transmission but you shift it so smoothly not a single grind
@peteharrison9816
@peteharrison9816 3 жыл бұрын
I like it 👌
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