Boogie2988: YouTube Legend to Desperate Lolcow

[@ZrodyApo]

In retrospect, you come to realise that Francis was the real guy and boogie was the fictional character

[@blacksesamecandies]

True. im always weary of anyone online who acts too sweet and wholesome, even when he was tricking his audience he leaned heavy on the victimhood. Until he got tired and went full mask off.

[@KillMePete]

I saw one video that said "Its easy to hide who you are on KZbin behind the edits but on Twitch its impossible" not a coincidence that all this started when Boogie started streaming on Twitch.

[@XxTaiMTxX]

“The bigger the smile, the sharper the knife.”. Beware anyone who tries to portray themselves as “nice” or “inoffensive”. They tend to be some of the worst people on the planet.

[@bigroaststyrone8135]

@@XxTaiMTxX I disagree. Going around in life assuming every kind person you meet is actually Sgt Barnes instead of Sgt Elias is a quick road to being extremely lonely

[@XxTaiMTxX]

@@bigroaststyrone8135 I think you failed reading comprehension. I said, "beware anyone who tries to portray themselves as 'nice' or 'inoffensive', they tend to be some of the worst people on the planet'. Does that say, anywhere, "Treat everyone as if they're terrible people and assume everyone is out to get you?" No? Then, I'm not sure what you're on about. Real people don't "Portray" themselves as anything. They're just people. Good and bad personality traits. They don't try to please anyone EXCEPT people they deeply and personally care about (very good friends, family, etcetera). There's a marked difference between people who "act nice" and people who "are nice". Namely, the people "who are nice", it's just part of their personality and it goes in and out depending on their mood and who they're interacting with. People who "act nice", try to please as many people as possible and typically also try to "shame others" for not being as nice as they are. Or, they try to justify "being nice" to other people when they shouldn't. The fun part about Boogie: The only people that fell for his "I'm nice" and "I'm inoffensive" shtick are those who would've also fell for Ted Bundy's stuff. No self-preservation in their genes. Living with blinders on. Sheep in a sea of wolves. They've dulled their instincts and are unable to see people as they truly are. I'm trying to teach you how to be a wolf so wolves don't eat you.

[@jolu4294]

I can't imagine being in your late 40s and in a perpetual living hell of relentless, neverending high school drama. Nightmare life.

[@bestieswithtesties]

I mean I'm pretty sure the people who carry drama with them everywhere in life do so because they enjoy it. It's fun to them.

[@Ephesians-yn8ux]

@@bestieswithtestiesnarcissists

[@jheffreymartineau3388]

I've seen this behavior respectivly in all average 70-60-50-40-30's yo

[@TonyDanza4Lyfe]

Yup. Should’ve listened to loveline lol

[@cenergames]

Never seen his situation described so succinctly lol. That's pretty much what it is, just high school drama. What an existence...

[@UnknowableThen]

You either die a respected youtube OG or live long enough to see yourself become a lolcow.

[@UnknowableThen]

@@luvdiacetyl That too.

[@sleepyjo9340]

It's almost like putting all your eggs in a content basket not only morally degraded you, but also in general attracts degenerates. The people who were once abto social nerds are now designing and creating toxic apps.

[@MarvinPowell1]

Mister Metokur so far is the only legendary KZbinr who'll do the former. ...It's a joke, people.

[@BoomBoom-ym5oy]

Or the villain like eduppps

[@ratchips]

technoblade is obviously the first one. Absolute legend

[@Butterandbacon]

Boogie is one of those people who, if he told me it was raining outside, I would have to look and see for myself.

[@SMCwasTaken]

Totally not an insult

[@yurikendal4868]

​@@SMCwasTakenit could be. It's still true

[@paigeneedstea3362]

W comment

[@sk8rboy]

Bro could tell me the sky is blue and I would have to look up and check

[@walternerd3147]

Same goes to his friends Michael green aka kidbehindacamera

[@Cosmo_66]

Boogie pointed a gun at The Punisher and lived to tell the tale. What a legend.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@wahwahwah6690]

And then he lost to WingsOfRedemption

[@GamersXnostalgia]

"legend" I can't have his balls, after losing thousands he came back with his tail between his legs, that's dedication

[@popeheely480]

I've always wanted someone to make a comment or joke on how similar they're names are. I thought his name was Frank Castle for a while lmao

[@charaznable6597]

@@wahwahwah6690 no boogie redemption

[@supersardonic1179]

His Francis persona was originally a lolcow, now the man himself has become one. He is a dedicated method actor.

[@ShadeTavish]

He took Sam's advice Think it Dream it Do it

[@WhatisAPaladin]

he should just end his story

[@theepicduck6922]

@@WhatisAPaladin Not even Boogie deserves that.

[@nurgle-j5n]

@@WhatisAPaladin thats mean :(

[@lutfensusshow5397]

almost as talented as edp

[@noahz2023]

Boogie didn’t deserve the difficulties he faced during his youth. That said, at a certain point it’s up to personal responsibility to take the steps to bettering yourself. Being a victim as a child wasn’t his fault, but as an adult he actively harms himself with his choices.

[@SquadPoopy]

NGL if you read boogie's childhood without context of who he was, I would guess you were giving the origins to a serial killer or something

[@nathanfletcher7023]

correct. a shitty childhood is no excuse to being a cunt as an adult

[@CrayZJo3Davola]

Boogie probably lied about all his childhood trauma for clout and sympathy.

[@yellowblanka6058]

@@CrayZJo3Davola This - he's lied about so many things I wouldn't put it past him to have embellished the "difficulties" he's faced.

[@internettraveler8666]

@@yellowblanka6058 nah you don’t get that obese without having mother issues

[@dahliacheung6020]

The tale of Boogie is a good lesson for anyone who relates to those posted about on r/niceguys. Being generally "nice" and having a victim complex is not likely to get you anywhere, and if by chance at first it does, you're likely to lose it all once people see enough if you to find out what you're really like.

[@JimmysMoooom94]

That's what people like Boogie don't understand. Nice people don't have to go around saying they're nice. Their actions usually speak for them.

[@TallisLizzy]

Congrats to liquid Richard for defeating this man.

[@Esdeath_0001]

If only he won the war with wings

[@MultiCoolmovies]

Ban anyone who calls me Richard, real talk.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@Esdeath_0001]

@@MultiCoolmovies ban anyone who says I married for health insurance

[@WobblesandBean]

​@@Esdeath_0001 ...Even though he himself said so. God, he's such a wretched human being.

[@joshuamoore8560]

Having just watched the segment regarding Boogie's fence-sitting, I would just like to chime-in and say: I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

[@MarvinPowell1]

It's funny cause I don't know if he stole the fake fence sitting from Tim Pool, or Tim Pool stole it from him, or if both stole it from Phillip DeFranco.

[@Horvath_Gabor]

Normally I'm often annoyed when centrists are being antagonized as "fence sitters", because sometimes when you have two equally, lunatically extreme opposed choices, not picking either of them can be reasonable, but then Tom's last word on the matter hit a chord with me. Yes, sometimes, when your options boil down to "the giant douche or the turd sandwich", not aligning yourself with either of the two extremes can be wise, but if you do that, you should at least have a better alternative in mind. If you don't, and can't add anything to to conversation, you aren't helping.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

@@MarvinPowell1 Tim Pool is clearly right-wing. How is he fence sitting?

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

@@Horvath_Gabor It's one thing to not align with either side ; it's another to not take a side and say that you don't have strong opinions about a topic either way. Most centrists are the former, while those who deserve to be mocked as fence sitters are the latter.

[@kyletitterton]

@@MarvinPowell1 Tim Pool s the most right wing guy that ever right winged.

[@CyborgWolf]

It's sad because he was an inspiration to me. I'm a cripple, and seeing him battle depression & his weight back in the 201x was inspirational. I thought that if that guy could work it out then I had to try to get better too. I thought that his slow progression was good to see because that's not a "I changed in 3 months, do the same" and it made him more human. But years after years I felt like he was just having excuses & became pathetic. My respect turned to disdain. He became an awful person. The realization didn't stop me from trying to improve myself, but still it's a bit sad to see someone I looked up to fall from grace like this.

[@darkcoeficient]

I am glad you never stopped improving despite losing your hero. You rock! We are all not strong and sometimes we need to be reminded of what we need to do.

[@CyborgWolf]

@@darkcoeficient Thanks. It's also part of the stoic way. Others should not get in the way of you (you as in general) evolving. Having inspiration is good but at the end of the day you work for you & you only. He was a good motivation but at the end of the day I only have myself & loved one to keep getting better.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@Quintapion]

I want you to come with me.

[@WobblesandBean]

He was never a hero, he just was a lot more careful to keep his mask on back then. All of his kindness was fake.

[@boanoah6362]

"The reddit trolls said I'm a liar! So I lied to someone on purpose so the reddit would prove I'm a liar to show that the trolls are unhinged stalkers!" Brilliant scheme.

[@Wayte13]

Masterful Gambit

[@Eye_Of_Odin978]

"Its a bold strategy, Cotton, lets see how it pays off for him."

[@tjdmt297]

So basically Francis was the real person all along and boogie was the character. That’s a twilight zone episode

[@YTsux100pct._of-the-time.]

*F A C T S*

[@Mhats]

Palpatine: …ironic

[@sole__doubt]

The Jungian Shadow

[@R-Lee-]

And then he broke his glasses and couldn't read anything.

[@RTU130]

Ye

[@MarauderM00gi]

Half of me expects Boogie to respond here saying: "Hey Tom, tough but fair video. I'm hoping to live long and continue to grow and be a better person. Cheers!"

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Quite the opposite. He accused Tom of saying he lied about his sexual abuse despite the fact he did no such thing.

[@ArtistChibi]

Literal video response to this. >.> I didn't bother watching the video response.

[@MikeHuntBFPD]

Well he's definitely continuing to "Grow"

[@large_crab]

@@MikeHuntBFPD lmao

[@shootinputin6332]

@@MikeHuntBFPD hurp durp a fat joke in 2023

[@strangerofthe2067]

I coulda went the rest of my life without hearing you read the part of Boogie describing his fleshlight

[@fsheee3458]

That was the most disturbing thing I’ve ever heard

[@unkeptorc9656]

I got a good laugh out of it

[@defooriginalcontent3958]

Bro im 12 minutes in, just cooked up some hella bomb stir fry after getting back from the gym What the fuck do you mean he describes his fleshlight What

[@ahonestwoman]

I wonder under all that fat how he found his manly bits.

[@Crush1084]

​@@defooriginalcontent3958So....did hearing about the fleshlight spoil your stir fry? 🤣

[@kaizarcantu8240]

Boogie is a great example of why some people should't live with an audience. It's a terrifying thing to say, but I'm surprised he's not dead.

[@logger22]

He eats fast food in every vlog he’s in.

[@guccigucci5002]

he lied about having cancer. no cancer doctor wouldve approved him for that boxing match. its why he refuses to show any proof he has cancer. if he really had it he would be showing evidence of it daily for sympathy points

[@SeethinSteven]

💯

[@boozypixels]

I'm sure the kind of doctor Happy Punch has on staff would clear a corpse if they needed to

[@jakehyams8659]

​@@boozypixels a happy punch doctor would not be the one overseeing his cancer treatment

[@mararara9421]

Well that aged wonderfully.

[@SD-nc3oj]

Aged like wine

[@aidan4031]

Insane how much cocaine the turkey tom team does in order to pump out this much content.

[@kenosabi]

Nah. That's gotta be meth. They'd be reapplying every 45 minutes if it was coke. 😂

[@Sue_Me_Too]

It's basically impossible to get pure coke anymore since everybody cuts everything with fentanyl these days. At least with meth you can make your own so you know what's in it.

[@cricketandgraham8644]

fr

[@coltonholaway7902]

​@@Sue_Me_Too his team flys a cesna strait to columbia and buys whole sale from the brick makers

[@Varangian_af_Scaniae]

Yeah they pump out lots of content and it isn't 10 minutes videos either. Maybe he has a Vietnamese sweat shop helping him.

[@WorldsWorstBoy]

My favorite Boogie ark was when he lost all his money then gained it all back with crypto just to loose it all again after telling everyone he was rich lol.

[@howey935]

But he didn’t actually lose any money, he invested 200k it went upto 750k and he got out when it was just over 200k so he lost nothing only on paper.

[@DeadManSinging1]

Boogie was ALWAYS a lolcow though. He just went from becoming a self aware one to a legitmate one

[@SMCwasTaken]

Is it ok if i feel bad for him?

[@Dorian.Pavel.]

​@@SMCwasTakenYes ! That just means you're empathetic...which in this day and age is quite rare,especially present on KZbin comments.Have a good day !

[@edim108]

@@SMCwasTaken It's complicated. On one hand there is a lot to pity and feel bad about with him. On the other he often used that to get a hold of people and abuse them. It's ok to feel bad for someone who went through a lot of trauma and developed issues of their own bc of it like his tendencies common with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Just remember that he isn't new to using pity others feel for him as a tool. Pity him from a distance and don't enable his abusive behaviors...

[@IHMyself]

@@SMCwasTaken It's okay to feel bad as long as you don't excuse his behaviour.

[@ketchup901]

@@IHMyself That's a very good mindset to have in general

[@millerrepin4452]

Boogie started as a lolcow and has come full circle to being a lol cow this was his destiny all along.

[@Shaddowkhan]

Maybe he was always a lol cow.

[@Skittles694]

​@@Shaddowkhanthere was a time in like 2012 where he was respected

[@edim108]

@@Shaddowkhan There was a time he was genuinely respected and well liked by overwhelming majority of people on the platform. For quite some time he was the furthest thing from a lol cow- he was the guy people listened to for intelligent, levelheaded comments about the current goings on. This was so long ago though that it's hard to remember times when he wasn't a walking joke that even his haters are becoming bored of...

[@joshuabacker2363]

@@edim108 Really just shows how gullible and easily manipulated most people are tbh.

[@DustyRagu]

​@@joshuabacker2363youtubers are like all celebrities. You like what is shown to you. What else are they supposed to do until the truth comes out? Or until they find it? Not that i think people are the smartest but dont get cocky about yourself lol

[@Matthewcoxinsidetruecrim.e]

My favorite boogie moment is when he made a Francis video in which he's sitting in a room with crazy phrases written all over the walls with an effigy of his ex wife where he proceeds to scream at it and hit it all under the guise of it being a joke Francis video when it's clear as day how the guy actually feels and literally fooled nobody lmao

[@crying2emoji5]

Well that’s fucking disturbing

[@bigbrotherishere]

there is nothing remotely funny about that. asshole

[@theNEWMASKSdudexxx]

And there were (and still are) people who genuinely believe him when he says it's a joke. Not sure who is more stupid: boogie or his 3 genuine fans.

[@dangerousdays2052]

Love it. Can't wait for Boogie to commit a human sacrifice. 😂🤣

[@LegendMkr7]

"I'm not going to work harder and make less money" yeah lets donate to that guy.

[@nitro8611]

"Boogie brought two prostitutes to a friend's party without permission and they drunkenly started fingering each other until they started bleeding on the carpet." It feels like a century since Boogie used to be called the Mr. Rogers of the Internet.

[@adri9795]

Ow 😢

[@DoctorWhom]

that is not a quote I expected to see in the comments. But I guess that gives me a hint as to later in the video (I'm 1 min in)

[@dror843]

but what is the problem with liking hookers?

[@patrik3482]

The only one who called him like that is himself.

[@nintendozilla9843]

Fucking hell. Reading that made me feel disgustingly numb.

[@raxcentalruthenta1456]

From what I remember when I watched some of his stuff, he never talked about anything happy. His videos were always depressing or sad or angry. It was like watching a perpetual crisis.

[@edenm.1114]

I've lived long enough to realize that the people who are so keen on calling others manipulators usually end up being manipulative.

[@rabirayrana7648]

Yeah my ex GF is one

[@djkraken2563]

@@rabirayrana7648or are you?

[@thelastplaguedoctor6992]

​@@djkraken2563or are you?

[@JK-gm6kk]

Projecting

[@3three3three3three]

​@@thelastplaguedoctor6992or are you?

[@guhuhhuh1684]

filthy frank was that friend you loved like family but they went off to college and you cant help but to be overjoyed and deeply saddened by their success. youre so happy for him but just wish yall could hang out again

[@Shit_Bird]

Bro this is Francis, not Frank. Ones a psychotic lolcow, the other is our favorite cryptid.

[@IHateSmilingFriendsTheTVShow]

​@@Shit_Birdotherway around kid.

[@alexk9858]

It’s so sad to see how much he has “changed”. I have a lifelong disability and growing up watching Boogie really did help me feel as though I could start to open up about how I felt about my own struggles, pain and depression surrounding my disability. However as the years have gone past, I started to notice all he was really doing was milking his situation. I appreciate the fact he initially helped me to feel comfortable discussing my own issues with my peers and friends, however now it’s almost just like watching an old friend trying to play the victim whenever possible. It’s sad.

[@Froggele]

I‘ve never really watched him regularly but I feel you as I’m also disabled. Judging from this video a lot of the shit he got in the beginning was fatphobia and ableism (even this comment section is full of it). One day he played into it for attention and money and the other day he talked about how serious and dark these subjects actually were (which they are, I don’t want to take away from his pain) for pity and to virtual signal. I get it, there are funny and sad parts about health conditions and there’s nothing wrong with finding the humour in them but with him I feel like you never really knew what was what and what his motivation was. I just wonder if everything would have gone differently for him if our society was less ableist and he would have experienced more acceptance throughout his life.

[@apollo53122]

​@@FroggeleBoogie has always been an awful, manipulative person, and you sound exactly like the kind of mark who falls for his schtick.

[@Froggele]

@@apollo53122 I don’t think it’s wrong to try and empathize with someone. Everybody has reasons for why they are who they are. I’m not advocating for giving him a pass on everything because of it tho.

[@sobsag]

Boogie is crying on twitter. Good. Don't let him manipulate you. Boogie is a well known psycho who needs to be stopped.

[@mattdekker5693]

all your heroes will be just like him, waiting for markiplier vid.

[@Myth_or_Mystery76]

He’s definitely a manipulator. I know because my mom is exactly like him.

[@nickydee569]

This isn't even hyperbolic or exaggeration

[@frds_skce]

More like sociopath but sure

[@sobsag]

@@mattdekker5693 That's silly. Not everyone is like Boogie.

[@alexanderleah7513]

This is just depressing. I watched Boogie since 2012 and watched his rise, and always thought he was an inspirational figure. My mother has had her own struggles with physical and mental health and drew a lot of joy from Boogies videos… how disappointed she would be at the state of his channel now. As many others have said, it seems very few of the “OG” KZbinrs from the early 2010’s have their reputations untarnished nowadays. Great video covering this mate 👍

[@dahliacheung6020]

I think part of why so many of the OGs have fallen is because all of the content that wasn't silly nonsense like skits and gag humor was very focused on on the individual themselves vs the content they were creating. People filmed themselves doing things, just living their lives, talking and telling stories. That's very different compared to now when so much content is talking about other things, reactions, commentary, reviews, interviews, deep dives, etc. I feel like because of that, the type of people who made videos to upload on KZbin were a different type of person, a much more egocentric, self focused person. Self centered people tend not to handle criticism well and also when the content is about the creator, the interest is in the creator so people are more likely to go digging and find out stuff about the creator that they hoped would stay hidden. Im not exactly explaining this well but that's a theory I have for why pretty much all the big youtuber OGs have fallen from grace.

[@seanstoyroom7274]

​@@dahliacheung6020 What do you think about Travel Channels? I have another channel Sean's Travels, that I started last summer. I took lots of trips in the 2010s and have been slowly editing the footage and pictures to turn into videos for that channel.

[@umairashraf5167]

Ryan higa is still intact​@@dahliacheung6020

[@andrewperkins7973]

I don't see "Boogie crypto scammed his audience and faked CANCER" on my 2024 bingo card.

[@chancecarr3000]

Boogie was initially just your friendly, relatable KZbinr like many back in the 2010’s. I personally just feel like during the presidential election and Covid crisis, these individuals have been blinded by greed and grow such an ego that apologizing for your misdeeds is somehow the nuclear option in their minds. Greed can misconstrue and alter anyone’s perception on reality.

[@ph-vf5hx]

E-begging is clearly too hard to give up. The idea of working a normal job that reflects your competences (zero in these cases) seems worse than death. It's not much different to the person who lies on the coach all day unemployed terrofied of facing realty.

[@jakublulek3261]

2016 elections broke KZbin.

[@aarondavis8943]

The signs were always there. Boogie could barely speak 3 words without making it about his own martyrdom, long before his "downfall".

[@zeejustin6]

It's crazy how I got feel good vibes from this man in the 2010s. I still kinda like him today, and I'm aware of his faults. He's a character that's for sure.

[@chancecarr3000]

@@zeejustin6 yeah everyone on KZbin is a “character” once they’re caught. It’s a sad excuse, everyone on the platform is guilty of it to get out of whatever controversy they’re in.

[@Horvath_Gabor]

Holy crap, man! You're pumping out high-quality long-form content at an insane pace! I'm impressed, but also a little worried for your health and/or sanity. Don't forget to take a break.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

I'm almost positive that he's got a team helping him with the scrips and research etc. If he does, they've been crushing it lately.

[@user-xg8rl8zs9h]

Agreed.

[@thefruitsong]

​@@Sue_Me_Toohe admitted he's got a team in his Illuminauti video, so he can put things out without burning out.

[@Sue_Me_Too]

@@thefruitsong Turkey Team has been crushing it lately.

[@aarondavis8943]

They're very well made and the research is impressive. The one problem is, he doesn't stop talking. There needs to be more example material, ie. video of the subject, throughout. A lot of youtubers make this mistake. Perhaps to avoid strikes? Idk.

[@kat-lf7gm]

“He was featured on =3, which is the early 2010’s equivalent of moistcritical reacting to your video” was the truest statement i’ve ever heard lmao

[@Ayushmanz]

=3 was more popular and the biggest channel on yt at that time

[@TheGr8one1022]

It's crazy that both of those talentless hacks got that huge.

[@rylanyoung2018]

Ironic that moistcritical was also featured on =3 which boosted his channel to the point that it became what it is today

[@Intheknow12]

@@rylanyoung2018 has critikal evolved or developed his channel/identity or is it the same old shtick?

[@hmp01]

@@Intheknow12 it is the same old "this made my balls tinkle so let's talk about it"

[@TheUnionJake]

I'm sorry, but he was never anything more than a desperate lolcow. Had some moments where he fooled everyone, including himself, that things were changing. Dude has a bulletproof victim mentality that's not going away ever.

[@SMCwasTaken]

Is it ok if i still feel bad for him? I don't want to feel bad for him but i still feel bad

[@violettaavaloslps]

@@SMCwasTakeni can’t help but feel bad for him too i just hope he grows up soon

[@violettaavaloslps]

@@Anonymous-ld7je yeah i understand

[@Sue_Me_Too]

Aye Tom, IDK if you've got a team helping you with scripts and editing (seems like you must) but everybody's doing a great job lately.

[@TurkeyTom]

i do have some people helping out on the Turkey Team but thanks man!

[@smallvillchef90]

It's crazy to hear that Boogie was from the small ass town I lived in

[@Sue_Me_Too]

@@TurkeyTom Whole Turkey Team been kicking ass

[@Diamond_V8]

@@TurkeyTom Turkey Tom LLC is a tight operation. Make sure you keep records of everything you put into your business to write off on your taxes. Beautiful thing abt America is if you keep putting your money back into your business, you'll do a lot better on taxes, but I imagine you probably already know that.

[@DimwitDangerous]

​@@TurkeyTomhopefully the team doesn't get misinformed during a script

[@Pacster15]

The whole time Frank Hassle was annoying him, he could have easily ignored frank. Boogie thought that Frank was going to hunt down and kill his family. It's hard to believe that Boogie was literally that naive.

[@wj8821]

​@@luvdiacetyl and he invited Frank to his house lol. He's always bragging about being an old school 4chan troll, but he couldn't handle Frank Hassle calling him a fat liar 😂😂😂

[@Sue_Me_Too]

@@wj8821 Yeah, he *literally did* invite Frank to come to his house... If Frank had shown up unprovoked and uninvited then it'd be a different story

[@ForeverLaxx]

Considering the situation, Frank's lucky Boogie's a coward.

[@SeethinSteven]

​@@luvdiacetyl Idk if you've heard of the Sidescrollers podcast with DSP, but Frank Hassle vs Boogie on the Killstream went essentially the sane for Boogie. Frank called him out on so much crap that Boogie was left seething over the podcast. He ended up false flagging Frank's channel as soon as the podcast ended and Frank made jokes that he'd come to Boogie's house. The reason he hated Frank so much and was freaking out over him coming there was likely because Frank would embarrass the same way again.

[@Maspets]

@@Sue_Me_Too How did he "invite" him?

[@MikeJr9284]

Boogie went from being a KZbin OG to becoming a lolcow. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@dillyjohn103]

He was always a fat loser.

[@iamFastYY]

Dude just retyped the title with a few extra words 😂

[@TaskManagement]

Almost the title of the video, good job bud and astute video observation.

[@iamFastYY]

@@TaskManagement right 🤣🤣

[@skinwhiztle]

The man went from being a nice guy to acting like a wings of redemption role model

[@homemadeluty3590]

HEY, LOOK HERE, LISTEN!! DONT MAKE FUN OF RICHARD!!!

[@skinwhiztle]

@@homemadeluty3590 🤣🤣🤣 - Sliquid Richard

[@nothobbesmufc949]

i think the act was the nice guy part; once he exposed his true colors that was the real him. Not that he's an outright monster. He's just an obnoxious manipulative narcissist. ppl say Francis was the real Boogie while the nice guy was the fictional character....which is why he had the fall from grace. Ppl don't react well to being lied to and when his real persona became more obvious they abandoned ship bc of that.

[@skinwhiztle]

@@nothobbesmufc949 I wholeheartedly agree

[@buruzn09]

Thank you for the nuance with which you discussed the inconsistencies in Boogie’s SA accounts. I’m only through 23 minutes so far, but I can’t ignore the deftness with which you handled that topic so far. Well done.

[@guyguyguy-w3o]

Its genuinely crazy how far pity can take you

[@caucasoidape8838]

It doesn't on its own. You have to put out a certain persona like he did.

[@ghassankhan7728]

You can only ask for pity for so long until people get sick of it

[@Amantducafe]

Ask any woman kek

[@caucasoidape8838]

@@Amantducafe even ugly women?

[@ShamSoap]

DSP is even worst than Boogie

[@silvertriforce2574]

Boogie didn't fire a 'warning shot', he fired a live round into the air where he did not know where it would land, that's called reckless endangerment, the school zone made it worse.

[@Skynet666officialchannel]

@andrewryan8507 can we also point out his lack of trigger discipline which proves he's another one of those deadbeat wanna be badass that buy gubs to complete their ego and think they are tough now? He opens the door finger on the trigger with a loaded gun... this is terrifying to think somebody unstable like this landwhale is allowed to have guns,. In comparison, look at Moist critical way to handle his guns, the guy knows how to correctly.

[@StoutShako]

Could firing it into the ground be considered safe, then? /gen

[@Skynet666officialchannel]

@@StoutShako no! the rule is simple, there's no such thing as warning shot. If you shoot it better be in the intent of using it as a mean of self defense. The only way anyone would be allowed to fire a round randomly is if he is allowed to do so. for example, i own 10 acres in florida, i have the right to practice shooting at will!

[@leigh7507]

Yeah, it was a warning shot to get rid of the harassment - it was a bad choice but its easy to see how it happened.

[@aw2584]

​@@StoutShakoas in... don't shoot your gun if you're not trying to kill, period.

[@mika4098]

Very few people are born monsters. My kitchen psychology hot take is that he learned to lie as a coping mechanism for living in unstable family conditions as a child (even if there wasn't sexual abuse, his dad having a problem with alcohol ain't easy either). That's not an excuse ofc. Here's a better timeline: when the scandals start rolling in, admit that you have a problem with lying and trying to play a persona to please everybody. Use your KZbin money to hire a therapist. But he hasn't done that, and the further down the rabbit hole he tumbles, the less likely it is he'll ever climb back.

[@sobsag]

Don't get it that he was never abused? It was all a lie.

[@blacksesamecandies]

He claimed (take with a huge grain of salt) his mother was quite similiar and he learned much from watching her. She presented herself as a pillar of the community, always doing charitable acts, getting praise and beloved in her teaching career. But at home she was a monster who was very abusive in all sorts of ways, which may have been a factor in his father's alcoholism if any of it is to be believed. So, not only a coping mechanism but something he watched enacted by his care-taker. He knew he probably would go much farther with less effort if he feigned victimhood and reaped the benefits of other's kindness.

[@sobsag]

@@blacksesamecandies Thats easy to see as a lie.

[@yungpm]

Kitchen psychology? OMG Stop LITERALLY gang stalking me and looking through my webcams I’m LITERALLY in the KITCHEN RN!!!! ZOMG 😻😻😻😻😻

[@SeethinSteven]

There's so many lies and contradictions in Boogie's lore. He once said that his mother never abused him before age 11 but then later changed that to him being s*xually abused at age 5 by her. He's denied point blank that his dad did anything, but after apparently finding out that his sister was r*ped by him, he started telling a similar story of how his father r*ped him. This story of course had changing details (happened once, happened repeatedly, his dad only touched him, Boogie only touched his dad). He's also accused his sister of s*xually abusing him for years and years but again the story changes. When confronted by Frank Hassle (which is why he hates Frank Hassle btw), he claimed his brother gaslit him into believing his sister abused him. He later changed this into how his mother gaslit him into believing his sister abused him. So Boogie publicly lied and accused his sister of s*xually abusing him for years and years only for him to turn around and claim that he had false memories and it never happened. This is a guy who complains non-stop that his haters and trolls allegedly falsely accuse him of bad things all the time. Scumbag person. I've only scratched the surface here.

[@cameroncorson5446]

Boy, the last bit of this documentary about the cancer aged well, huh? 😂

[@Jarxia]

I don't think boogie has been reduced to a lolcow. I think he always was one.

[@blacksesamecandies]

He was just good at hiding it for a bit, until he could no longer keep up the act of the enlightened centrist and all his demons started spilling out to the public.

[@ironmaster6496]

@@blacksesamecandies maybe that Francis character was his coping mechanism, once he stopped doing it...well he had to unleash that behaviour in some way

[@mcanty]

Ive always thought that his francis shit was his coping mechanism What a loser

[@justincider8892]

I don't even consider him a lolcow. Lolcows are fun, like DSP. Boogie is just sad.

[@JohnDoe-qh5xg]

You are childish

[@undo2redogacha852]

As an ex-Boogie fan. Yeah.... Accurate A lot of us were really fond of him and were rooting for him. He became hard to watch and stomach. He stopped being the wholesome guy that we loved and became the very thing we were tired of.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@DarksideGmss0513]

I think he started to change after his wife left him

[@raditzhoneyham]

@@DarksideGmss0513 people don't change like that. He just let his walls down and became who he really is. When you're married you stay on good behavior

[@undo2redogacha852]

@@DarksideGmss0513 That and McJuggerNuggets tbh.

[@undo2redogacha852]

@@raditzhoneyham He was never a great guy as Tom proved in the video. He had his skeletons, but there was definitely a change after the divorce and after meeting McJuggerNuggets. It was then that content really started to take a turn. He acted differently and irrationally, and the videos were just...boring and stale

[@richardmcgowan1651]

To be fair Boogie isnt alone in terms of once really famous KZbin stars coming to terms with being less relevant in today's world. Many KZbinrs grow up and have families and learn to move on with things. Boogie is one of those that get stuck in place in life. Millions of people go through it. Its just Boogie is stuck in the public eye and only see him as a failure.

[@sobsag]

He is the youtuber who lies the most.

[@Feels_like_Guts]

​@@sobsag go watch DSP and say that again

[@sobsag]

@@Feels_like_Guts Oh is DSP lying about having cancer or about being raped by family members? I dont think so.

[@travisr.3667]

@@Feels_like_Guts DSP isn't out there alleging sexual abuse and shit...

[@hexaldecima6839]

I miss Tobuscus Games. The dude made Skyrim funny as hell.

[@topwomble]

Boogie clearly had some real and genuine hardships and i thought for a while he was on the right path, it sucks that he fell short and then fell apart again

[@Akron162]

Guys like Boogie and WOR and so on, clearly have very serious emotional issues that compel them to self sabotage over and over. Even when things seem to be going right for them, they can't get out of their own way. The last thing they need is to be constantly in the public eye. It would be better for them to just quit the internet and seek all the help they need.

[@SeethinSteven]

They won't. Boogie hides behind the excuse that the internet helps him and / or that he uses the internet to help others.

[@vulpesinculta3478]

Having watched this at least 16 times now, I can say that this is a certified Turkish Tomelieon classic 🙏

[@june_qwq]

i love me some Turk Thompson

[@DORITOSTHEGREATANDPOWERFUL]

Found the time traveller.

[@cargyllion]

The fact that this was posted 2 minutes after the video was uploaded is just *chef's kiss*

[@REALTheFBI]

Blud watched an hour long video 16 times in a minute 😭🧑‍🍼

[@iCarrotCup]

DAWG IT'S BEEN 8 MINUTES 😭😭😭😭

[@NanaCottonNyan]

My rule of thumb, coming from being daughter to a mother with narcissistic personality disorder, is: if someone only complains and talks about negative stuff in their life; you should keep away from them. They like to make people pity them, and once they get you feeling deep sympathy, they become abusive. Then if you have the courage to stand up, they return to the complaining, the negative stuff, and the cycle goes on and on. Maybe this guy was truly abused, maybe not, but nonetheless it's not an excuse to do the same to others. If you don't grow and try to improve, the cycle will stop by people rejecting you and stop listening to your complaints or lies. Simple as that. (Sorry about my english)

[@heresthadude1080]

Perfect English, my friend

[@Pretermit_Sound]

As someone who experienced emotional abuse in their youth, I can’t understand why people who experience similar situations don’t develop a higher sense of empathy for others in the same situation. 😣

[@MayimHastings]

@@Pretermit_SoundIkr?!

[@MayimHastings]

Dude, that was beautifully said! And so true.

[@Jdowling357]

Better English than the majority of the internet that's been speaking it their entire life.

[@logger22]

Boogie’s description of his fleshlight genuinely disturbed me. Let alone that wicked confession you quoted from him after that.

[@SeethinSteven]

You should read some of the other stuff he wrote on that blog. Hoo boy...

[@logger22]

@@SeethinStevenI’m good🤢

[@henrijs1733]

i agree. the rest of the video was pretty childish/mild compared to that. no wonder he can't keep a girl around. fucking creepy weirdo.

[@AppleOfThineEye]

Of all the things he said and did, if *that* was what bothered you, you may want to put your moral priorities in order.

[@logger22]

@@AppleOfThineEye I am very much aware of everything else he did. I’m just pointing this out because nobody else seemed to talk about it.

[@user-xg8rl8zs9h]

It’s sad seeing him fall so far. But at the same time, it brings an odd sense of clarity.

[@meleemastermaa1449]

Null from kiwifarms said something interesting, he said that these people, DSP, Wings, Boogie, will always say they're in financial distress, but as soon as someone call them out for it they'll quickly change the tone and say they're very fine, all their taxes are paid and they're actually super rich. It's like they want the pity party but also want to be powerful at the same time.

[@dudebro8811]

Good ol Null.

[@amberbaum4079]

That seems to be a common theme with these particular variant of lolcows.

[@yellowblanka6058]

Not defending Boogie in the least, but Kiwi Farms sounds like a forum full of sociopathic shut-ins who are as bad/worse than the people they harass. According to Wikipedia they've contributed to several suicides with their harassment campaigns.

[@TheRealUnderCap]

What’s funny about Boogie2988 is that he just got scammed by a scalper when he wants to buy an Xbox series x console for $500, but the scalper wants $1,500 and stole his cash app money after he opened the box and got a mini fridge instead of the video game console.

[@manoftherainshorts9075]

Who the hell scalps Series X now? I thought it was quite easy to just go to retail store and buy one for MSRP, at least in US?..

[@ironmaster6496]

bruh imagine being almost broke yet still wanting to buy a freaking new videogame console in spite of already woning a lot of them

[@wolfetteplays8894]

@@manoftherainshorts9075it wasn’t. Nowhere had them

[@dungeonsanddobbers2683]

"Boogie uploaded a video 'I Have A Rare Form Of Cancer'. Unfortunately it seems like he's not lying at all" 1. This part aged like milk 2. Why would you believe _anything_ boogie says. He's a pathological liar who has been farming pity donations for most of his 18 years on this website.

[@uggkitsune]

imagine giving the benefit of the doubt to someone who announces a terminal disease. Even if he IS a patholigical liar, who would've thought that depravity is how low he could go

[@UmQasaann]

Boogie faked his cancer just for attention because his online career is fading.

[@linny8279]

I won't lie, I had completely forgotten about Boogie2988 due to the fact that his content was never for me, but if I recalled a majority of his fanbase being kinda of a pain to deal with on forums and such. It' weird to see him fall in such dramatic and toxic manner.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@moufronn]

@@Vecha302 moufronn

[@Sue_Me_Too]

@@moufronn What are you like a pokemon or something?

[@moufronn]

@@Sue_Me_Too moufronn

[@Kelmire1]

@@Sue_Me_Too Yeah he's a retard type Pokemon. Their weakness is logic.

[@vgc_ivan8391]

All he had to do is just drop Twitter like everyone told him to. But he refused and just cry and apologize for every tweet is about him.

[@horaciosi]

"You can't keep doing shitty things and then feel bad about yourself like that makes it ok!" - Todd from Bojack Horseman.

[@prayforjonas]

Francis was real all along. I have always felt this way. I frankly don't see how others couldn't have seen this coming. Boogie was trying to hide in plain sight. Like Sharon Stone's character in Basic Instinct - an author who murdered her boyfriend in the same manner that's described in her own novel to escape suspicion. His motivation wasn't nearly as sinister, but by acting like Francis was just a character and pretending to be comfortable with the idea of portraying someone who was pathetic, he wasn't just cultivating a fan base, he was pleading his case to the public and building up a defense for himself. "How can I be the very same type of person I'm mocking? How absurd." He was just chasing acceptance, while at the same time using it as therapy. He was admitting to everyone who he really was, but because of the "humorous" way it wasn't presented, he felt people laughed with him, not at him. I think this gave him some peace. It made him feel better about his life. But ultimately I do think Francis was always there and always wanting out in an authentic way. Sooner or later, we all reveal ourselves. It is what it is. The charade had to crumble at some point.

[@Hrvo182]

I think you're spot on, it's just absolutely amazing how much shenanigans people will willingly (maybe unwittingly) go through in order to avoid facing themselves.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

i see it more as he was genuinely trying to get over himself by acting out this persona but ultimately failed to do so and fell back into old habits. but what do i know, ive literally never heard of this dude despite being on youtube since like 2007.

[@SonyaBladesBooty]

Why do you sound like boogie

[@dungeonsanddobbers2683]

@@TheSuperappelflap I've been around on the site on one account or another since 2006. Boogie's been one of the constants, to the point where when he had that big boost in the early 10's because he was getting in on the internet drama my first thought was "Wow, this guy is still around" followed by "How are people falling for this bullshit persona of his and thinking he's the 'Mr Rogers' of youtube?"

[@MyDearGhoul]

You're one of the few KZbinrs that I genuinely look forward to seeing new content. You're videos get me through all my tedious house work.

[@genuinejustin6269]

Problem is the majority of people on the internet are too naive, too gullible and have no intuition to be able to see through the facade KZbinrs create. People who are able to already knew Boogie was a garbage human being.

[@moratolca]

because most of his audience were young teens or even children and it still is the main KZbin demographic.

[@velDANTe]

yeah, just like mr beast for example

[@genuinejustin6269]

@@velDANTe Wow, finally someone else understands?? You my dude are a rare sight.

[@velDANTe]

@@genuinejustin6269 6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

[@ryanrzjr]

I think it’s more the internet in general doesn’t understand that bad things happen from good intentions, and it’s in part that having good intentions make them look good.

[@gawd.]

you either die a hero or you live long enough to become like this dude

[@drpureinsanity]

You either die a hero; Or you live long enough to become a "victim" lmao

[@MrAjking808]

This is real life lol stfu

[@tonylu2471]

I think it's interesting that The Amazing World of Gumball did a brief parody of Boogie in one of the episodes.

[@Cee-cee683]

do you know the episode?

[@tonylu2471]

@@Cee-cee683 The episode is called "The Line". I tried linking the clip but KZbin didn't like that for some reason.

[@Cee-cee683]

@@tonylu2471 thanks!

[@congruentcrib]

One lie lead to another, and before you knew it he was stuck in a web of lies. Sometimes it’s best to not show your personal life… this may have been one of those times. As someone who’s always felt bad for Boogie, I truly hope he has an actual revaluation about himself, and lives long enough to make a difference.

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

As someone who hates boogie and has always wished the worst for him ill say Nice profile pic BRING BACK KIWI FARMS

[@congruentcrib]

@@drinkinouttacups2665 can I ask; why you want the worst for anybody? Unless they personally wronged you in such a way; why wish bad things on someone?

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

@@congruentcrib being that pathetic and dishonest with a young audience. Nothing can undo his influence on the impressionable like seeing him eat himself to death

[@joshuabacker2363]

@@congruentcrib Good people should have good things happen to them. Conversely, bad people should have bad things happen to them.

[@antongunther3977]

On the fence sitting. Its actually a defense mechanism. A ton of people who grew up with low self esteem tend to adopt varying degrees of "nice guy" personas and some times it can go so far as to impact their approach to politics. Basically they dont want to feed into conflict and try to avoid it at all cost due to past trauma going so far as to try to be moderate. The idea is that if two friends as arguing you want to stay on both their good sides because you are so afraid of them leaving you so you try to make everyone happy or at least stop the fighting so the social circle doesn't collapse. It rarely works in practice because when you fence sit politically and on a more micro scale (conflict between two friends) it just makes both sides resent you. Its a defensive mechanism that isn't really effective but the trauma of low self esteem and potential abandonment issues keep them in this trap. Add an audience that you are trying to score points with and the internet in general and you get disaster.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

i guess thats true, but in my experience the vast majority of fence-sitting people are just normal people who are either too tired and burnt out or dont give a fuck in general about anything outside their immediate family and friends, so they just take a centrist position on everything to not rock the boat. whenever theres a school cowboy time, even politicians like to say theres blame on both sides. when they have a vested financial and social interest in squarely blaming one side. you know, the one to blame for that particular pow-pow incident

[@GymLeaderJasmine]

I used to watch Boogie since 2013 when I saw a video of him commenting on KZbin forcing Google+. I didn’t like seeing people make fun of him for his weight and appearance, so I wanted to support him. Sadly, I’m ashamed of what he has become, and that respect I had ended a long time ago.

[@booognish]

I never watched him, but I did subscribe back in the day for the same reason, but I unsubscribed a couple years back because of his nonstop pathetic bullshit.

[@mark6302]

ha google+ that went real far

[@StoutShako]

Having an empathetic reaction is a good thing. Don't be ashamed of yourself. There's no predicting how someone you like and support might flush their own life down the toilet. Especially when they constantly lie and gaslight you the way Boogie did with his audience. The most you can really do is not enable the bad behavior to continue.

[@somedud1140]

Google+ was bad, but what we have now is worse. It "forced" you to use a "real name" similarly as youtube is forcing now to use non-brand accounts. Yes, this is my "real name", I can't change it on the whim. Google+ had lots of bugs, current system hides a lot of comments by design, including benign ones! As for content itself, browsing old comments is still possible, even though it's not trivial to find, it's on "google my activity, Your KZbin Comments". But depressing part is, how many of the videos I commented on a year or two ago on are gone

[@nikoc8968]

seriously...anyone who actually watched Boogie years ago knows he was NOT always like this...he used to be self-aware and humble. its beyond depressing to see what hes become...

[@SueloTheChild]

It’s funny that turkey Tom and boogie are both on keemstar’s lolcow live.

[@jojoflap]

The way Boogie goes about dieting is like how I go about quitting alcohol. I tell everyone I'm done, but then a week or so later I'm downing 15 beers and pissing people off. I go into a cycle of me being the bad guy, the villain and use that to justify my substance abuse. I imagine Boogie does something similar, but for junk food.

[@lasskinn474]

don't tell anyone then. the hard part is that it's not fun to not drink if you enjoy drinking. it's completely normal to feel bad anxious etc etc if you quit something fun for some reason, you just have to fill the time with something then like playing games or wanking or spitting at the wall or wallowing in self pity or whatever anything, point is it's just time it'll pass and you'll have all the time in the world to get pissed off at the world sober, which is then completely normal as well it's not like quitting drinking is some happiness pill.

[@strawbbtarte]

@@lasskinn474 Exactly. Telling people you're going to do something I've noticed ends up going nowhere in certain personality types (including mine). When it's something you need to work on internally, it's something you need to work on internally and not project into the outside world.

[@drinkinouttacups2665]

@@strawbbtarte same. I think the reward you get from telling people about what you plan to do subtracts from your motivation to actually go through with it because it's so similar to the actual accomplishment in our minds

[@Brandiwell]

@@drinkinouttacups2665 Absolutely this. I realized this some years ago and have been holding important self improvement like that close to my chest. It almost always backfires when i slip up and mention it. Weird how the brain works.

[@maynardburger]

And that's honestly normal. Breaking addictions and long-term coping habits is extremely hard. And it's understandable when people fall off the wagon, even if it's obviously bad news. But you're at least openly acknowledging that you have a habit of falling off the wagon and showing some self-awareness about it and not trying to justify it, which seems well beyond Boogie's capabilities. Ya know, because he relies on the pity party stuff to garner attention and ultimately money...

[@pieman153]

Not really defending boogie, but abusers denying or straight up not believing they were ever abusive is incredibly common. My mother was emotionally and physically abusive my whole life, to the point I attempted suicide more than once where I had to stay in hospitals for weeks afterwards (or "camp" as mom told everyone). To this day she tells everyone none of that happened and that she doesn't understand why I went no contact for about a decade now.

[@rjunxi]

Disgusting, I'm so sorry. I'm glad you've cut her out, I hope you're doing far better.

[@pieman153]

@@rjunxi Thank you! Happy to report I very much am. Won't lie, the affects of the abuse are very much ongoing and probably always will be, but I'm doing so much better and I can finally say I'm proud of who I am. Got a job I love that brings joy to a lot of people, and a lot of people that I love and love me, a wonderful home, and I have a very clear idea of what I never ever want to be. Things can get better once you can remove yourself from the situation, but it's a long long road, and one that doesn't nessisarily end but gets easier the longer you keep moving forward. (also go to therapy for real, and don't be afraid to switch therapists until you find the right one)

[@levithebaddest2369]

My mom used to do this too. Thankfully she is a different person now after getting on antidepressants, but she used to abuse us so bad. and when we talked her her about it as adults she didn't even think she was ever mean or mistreated us at all

[@tupacwallace3113]

Same here. My dad committed suicide when I was 6 and I looked just like him so my face was always a constant reminder to her.

[@rjunxi]

@@pieman153 I'm so glad you're doing better. Not only better, but it sounds like you're doing quite well! The effects probably will remain a little, you're right, and I very much hate that because it's not your fault at all and you shouldn't have to deal with that. But you're equipped to handle them now it seems, and I know [and I hope you know] that you can tackle them. You're a tough one. Thank you for sharing your experience and telling+showing people that it can get better! Thank you for advocating for therapy as well, most of us don't have extensive knowledge about our brains and what strange things they do. It's very helpful to work with somebody to cope with such large beasts.

[@weaboosama6706]

boogie was always a lolcow. He was always a brick and a cow behind the scenes

[@andymk8951]

And now he apperantly faked cancer

[@melalbert8507]

Source? Or time stamp in tge video?

[@andymk8951]

@melalbert8507 it happend after this Video. You can just ask KZbin. He even confessed it on "Lowcow life"

[@karakreativevlog]

You're the first person to go into detail about his other websites that he developed. That was eye-opening.

[@SeethinSteven]

I'm only half way through and Tom has touch based on a lot of things which other Boogie "documentaries" haven't. People don't realise that the Boogie rabbithole is so much deeper and just as bad at of Wings' and DSP's

[@perturbedsun5508]

God the footage of a healthy Spoony at 0:08 hit me in the feels harder than I thought it would.

[@guilhermehank4938]

The horrors of mental illness and having everyone around you gladly backstabbing you for attention

[@TheArchfiend]

Just wanted to thank you for not holding back on that "Power of the Internet Podcast" on boogie's channel. I'd rather leave the comment here to increase the algorithm love then on that particular video. Most people tend to be polite when they get invited into someone else's domain but you held back no punches so kudos to you for that. Screw this manipulative sack of crap, he deserves every ounce of misery he is getting right now.

[@jcman-lp6lg]

"girl's with no dad are so easy to manipulate, all I have to do is act like a father figure and I've got them" - Boogie2988' Guess, which kind of parent does his current GF who's suffering from depression, anxiety, etc does not have also guess which parent does she have a strained relationship with?

[@pattycake1648]

@jcman-lp6lg He’s gross. And an adult knows better. These are his choices and those are hers. She’s not an infant she can make decisions

[@axyheave]

​@@pattycake1648No croup. But that doesn't remove his moral fuckery

[@patriciazok2774]

Exactly. I especially hate when people with psychotic hallucinations don't just realize their just imagining them 🙄🙄🙄🙄. In case my sarcasm wasn't obvious enough imma just point and laugh​ 🫵😂😂😂😂😂 @@pattycake1648

[@fracturedraptor7846]

I was abused as a child. Not sexually. While I can recall some of it I don't remember it all. I'm not saying Boogie should get a pass but when things happen at very early ages it becomes harder to remember them as an adult. Some people never forget. Some people remember every little detail. That could be the case, he's confusing one family member for another. I don't have that problem but that's me. I have a good memory. Thankfully I didn't end up like him mentally, being damaged because of it. I'd like to say I'm too stubborn to let the past define my future, or let some asshole ruin the whole of my life, but it was probably the years of therapy and medication.

[@maynardburger]

I think most people can recognize all this, but when you zoom out a little and see the giant, ceaseless pattern of behavior that Boogie seems impulsively driven by, it's extremely hard to not look back and question the hugely inconsistent stories he was telling about it. And it's not even about denying that anything took place, which would be a fairly cruel stance, but you absolutely cannot just take his word, either.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@maynardburger its pretty common for abuse victims to have wildly inconsistent stories and constantly change their mind about whether it really happened or not and to what extent. thats what makes these situations so difficult, both from a personal relationship and a legal point of view. i myself remember some occasions literally frame by frame in slow motion, where i was hurt as a kid. mostly the ones where i actually did something about it by running away, warning an adult what was going on, or fighting back. and others i dont remember at all and only know about, because my parents told me much later what they remembered. thankfully, as far as i know, none of that was in any way s3xual, it was just violence and pretty severe emotional abuse. i also seem to remember much better when it was was kids around my own age doing it, compared to adult authority figures, in most cases. things dont always register the same way when youre about 4 years old. you haent really developed a logical framework and context to place these memories in.

[@joshuabacker2363]

@@TheSuperappelflap Common among false victims, you mean.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@joshuabacker2363 no its pretty common for real victims too, thats what makes it such a difficult thing. if it was easy it would not be a problem.

[@joshuabacker2363]

@@TheSuperappelflap Nah. I'm a victim and I ain't ever been confused about what exactly happened or who did what, m8. Kids will lie to say what adults want, but nobody gets their own story so muddled up they can't tell the difference between their father and their mother. Not unless they've got some *really* bad brain problems.

[@devinbrady4433]

This one hurts. Was such a huge boogie fan

[@victorochoa3662]

Cringe

[@devinbrady4433]

@@victorochoa3662 good one victor

[@victorochoa3662]

@@devinbrady4433 Im sleep deprived wtf am I doing?

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

Lying

[@robertwesley7332]

​@@victorochoa3662 character development 🤯

[@thelazygamer2195]

The bigger they are, the harder they fall. And Boogie fell so hard he left a crater upon impact.

[@Moonie95]

Just like he would if he fell for real 🤐

[@Sue_Me_Too]

Hey, he managed to stay upright for the whole 90 second boxing match.

[@checkurs675]

The bigger they are* the harder they fall

[@thelazygamer2195]

@@checkurs675 Thanks for pointing that out lol

[@johnathanrush4666]

We need a Part 2, poultry boy

[@sianbeecham2825]

😂

[@johnelliswomack1931]

I think the perfect sort of microcosm of how Boogie thinks is present in the 'Wings Vs. Boogie' Keemstar Documentary. When Keem asks Wings why he's getting in the ring, Wings immediately answers 'for the money' when Boogie's asked the same question later on, he goes on this massive 'because we've both got to better ourselves, that's what we're fighting for, to take back our lives, our dignity, sure there's money involved, but that shouldn't be the important thing.' Fast forward to the part where Boogie's signing the contract, and he glances up at Keem and asks him, before he's even put pen to paper 'so I'm getting paid for signing this, right?'. Boogie is somebody who likes pretending that he's so much better than everyone else, even as he's throwing a pity party, he's doing it from a place of superiority. Deep down though, he's no different than everybody else. I know I came out of that doc respecting Wings much more as a person than I had before, for being truthful and being able to laugh at himself. Boogie on the other hand, while funny, just comes across as so fake.

[@stellarr1]

You can see a really fascinating look into Boogies life from the H3H3 podcast he was doing in 2017, compare that to how he's doing now and it's like the guy has just given up on trying for everything. Losing weight, often re-uploading videos of the same abuse stories, it's so sad.

[@NotJeffXEpstein]

Make more videos

[@wj8821]

Definitely. Dude's pre surgery weight was 480, and now he's always pushing past 400lbs. The content is terrible too, no video games, just low views pity parties and Twitter meltdowns...

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

Make less videos

[@SeethinSteven]

Tbh Boogie was never serious about losing weight. He cites his wife leaving him as a reason why he stopped trying, but he's always made excuses for his weight. Even the other week when people called him out on Kid Behind a Camera's videos where the two of them were eating out. Boogie had a mountain of food on his plate, but claimed later that he only ate 10% of it and threw the rest away. This is despite them saying they paid over $200 for the food. It's insane.

[@theyoungmessiah420]

@@SeethinSteven Sociopath, serial liar, lives in his own alternate reality. he really makes me cringe a lot watching through this video everytime he defends himself over stupid nonsense failing to apologize ONCE or admit his wrongdoings. jesus christ this guy is the embodiment of what I imagine just existing feels like. you're alive but not living, just floating through life and being stuck in a repetitive loop of delusional thoughts and no growth. I can't emphathize for him at all, he had every circumstance and chance to better himself. social media ruined him even further and the need for acceptance and being liked I guess. this is just a opinion of mine though. boogie-whatever-thefuckhisname is what I'll be having nightmares about or what I might imagine mid-life crisis might feel like, but being in my 30's instead..... lol too much adderall and coffee had me typing a lot I guess. cheers and take care chester xD:-)

[@smokingowly3607]

filthy frank left as a legends and will forever be one.. KZbin have not been the same since.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@lessalazar9068]

​@@moufronnsucks schlong

[@nothobbesmufc949]

important to remember: on a stream boogie invited frank to his house. called him a coward for not coming to his house. then was lying in wait with a gun. if Boogie had shot Frank there would have been murder charges. Can't invite someone to your house then try to claim self-defense or castle doctrine. Boogie was very lucky he was offered a deal; he would have been convicted if he'd gone to court (contrary to what he tells the internet).

[@TheDetherion]

I saw his early Francis skits while still at high school. At a time when I was a weird nerd he felt very relatable. It was actually inspirational seeing him getting married and having a house and what seemed like a lot of friends. Gamers can still make it was the sentiment I had. Fast forward to this day and age and a lot of the seemingly relatable and down to earth people from that time like him and h3 have fallen into the abyss. The lesson is that most of what you see online is fabricated.

[@yellowblanka6058]

Yep, it was all a facade. I can't believe that seemingly normal, pleasant looking woman would agree to marry him - she was even apparently acting as his caregiver at one point. Honestly, I can't say I blame her for divorcing him, it has to be hard physically/mentally to have to be a nursemaid for your nearly immobile husband. Also, apparently he's horrible to women, and people in general.

[@drpureinsanity]

​@yellowblanka6058 I'm guessing she was emotionally abused by her parents or something, and boogie probably gaslit her into thinking she couldn't do any better than him, as well as throw in a dash of pity.

[@TheSuperappelflap]

@@drpureinsanity yeah or maybe some women just like fame and money

[@TheSuperappelflap]

i rather thibk they started out genuine but fell prey to the too much, too young, too fast. like most rockstars and other celebrities. i watched h3 a long long time ago when he was just starting out. he made genuinely good wholesome videos for at least a year. then his channel blew up, his videos started getting 100s of thousands of views, and it changed very quickly. i stopped watching. some of my friends continued to watch his content and whenever they put it on the quality was just awful and he seemed like a douche.

[@drpureinsanity]

@TheSuperappelflap I don't think she got any exposure from boogie, and she was with him before he started making all that money so.

[@violet5610]

He had opportunities a lot of us never had. I don't feel bad for people who ruin thier own lives because of bad decisions

[@everythingallatonce321]

He was a creep from the start, i wouldn't surprised if it was him molesting his family member.b

[@MrPropagator]

God I love Tom and his videos this dude always delivers❤ love you dude

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@MrPropagator]

@@moufronn indeed

[@KanamoriKamper]

No homo?

[@tupacwallace3113]

His voice annoys me but I like seeing fat boogie falling

[@swift6347]

I thought I was bad at 240lbs but this guy makes me feel like I’m the healthiest guy in the world

[@rear1490]

After following several lolcows, it's incredible the mind's ability to protect itself from reality. Literally wrapping everything around them so they can feel like they're the victim of their circumstances

[@dondraper2488]

Can you name any lol cows that are better than Dragonlord…?

[@yellowblanka6058]

To be fair, we all do that to varying degrees, it's somewhat of a psychological defense mechanism (even if it's ultimately not healthy), but normal people have some measure of self-awareness and don't just delude themselves 24/7.

[@TheHolyHomeboy]

@@dondraper2488 Cyraxx

[@ripsirwin1]

I never liked boogie, even back when he was popular. His nice guy persona was always too cloying and sickeningly sweet. I never trust people who seem too nice.

[@bobjim245]

I hate that this video exists because I want to love boogie so much. His fake nice side is actually a very compelling person to want to watch. He seems down to earth and normal, then he just fuckin side swipes you with the psychotic side that you absolutely can't ignore. So thank you Tom for all your hard work, I hate what boogie did to himself but love how succinctly you layer it out for us

[@matthewjarrell9953]

Terrifying to know now that he was actually lying about his cancer too.

[@justinm3745]

Just venting here: I used to watch boogie when I was younger and I believe I started watching him right after his divorce or so. I thought he was wholesome and very warm. I remember I watched him go through his weight loss surgery, get new teeth, etc. I enjoyed his gaming news, and how humble and wise he seemed. I kind of lost interest for whatever reason, he started kinda imploding on Twitter and I was already getting turned off, but the moment I stopped I remember vividly. He was doing some collab with McJuggernuggets, and they went to boogie's hometown where he grew up in poverty. He was just so insufferable and when Juggernuggets tried to be empathetic or say something thoughtful, boogie would somehow take what he said and make himself look even more like a victim. For example, McJuggernuggets would say something to the effect of "The worst my family got money wise was we were forced to eat take out once a week" and boogie replies "I WISH I had a family to eat dinner with every night, you're so lucky". Just made him seem like he always wanted to be the victim,. Became exhausting and lame real quick.

[@gloob4742]

Oh man, the classic "Fuck you guys im rich, SEE YA!" into the "Hey guys, back to my passion, love to be here and if you want to help me do what I love feel free to support! :)"

[@Brandon-a-writer]

being 38 and working on youtube has always made me feel like i'm too old to be a content creator on this site. this dude is 11 years older than me, and long past his Old Yeller moment. It would have been a much more merciful fate, just to be taken out behind the barn and sent to the great doggy park in the sky. Sad to see such a fall, though I've never watched a video of this guy's, it is still a wild cautionary tale. Save your money. Any excess money you have, don't fucking waste it, because YT money is not forever, and he acted like he would always have an income … gambled away $500,000 like a fucking real life quadruped

[@shanethin]

Don’t stop, brother. Your piano videos are good stuff. Subbed!

[@gamingforever9121]

He’s what you would call fiscally irresponsible.

[@helpPSYCHO]

There was an 80 year old man who was a KZbinr(made food videos) before being outed as a predator. No age is too old for KZbin! Subbed

[@SeethinSteven]

Don't let age be an excuse. You can always find a way

[@christopherkinsella3912]

Are you talking about Tom?

[@morbius109]

Boogie started out as a lolcow, and he’ll end as a lolcow. He was an outrageous novelty once - maybe 15 years ago - but clearly the issues were always there and he’s a textbook example of someone who can’t get out of their own way. Hopefully he’ll finally fade away and disappear completely sooner rather than later, but I suspect he’ll linger on and on until his self destructiveness finally culminates in a mess he can’t bounce back from.

[@yellowblanka6058]

Yeah, I suspect his subscriber numbers and donations will slowly dwindle down until the prospect of him having to seek employment/not being able to just live off pity donations hits him and he has a nervous breakdown and just dumps his remaining money into food/drugs/prostitutes and goes out in a binge that would make Belushi/Farley blush (no disrespect to Farley, I think he was very funny/every bit the great guy "boogie" claims to be, he just had his demons)

[@morbius109]

@@yellowblanka6058Yeah, Belushi and Farley had their demons but were legends whose legacies are secure. Boogie’s day in the sun has long since passed, but as usual he’ll be the last person to see the writing that’s been on the wall for quite some time. His ultimate implosion will be an ugly one, for sure.

[@iammegamanx]

​@@yellowblanka6058 none of that shit is gonna happen. theres always going to be a legion of retards who are going to donate to him

[@corvokaldwin7843]

although Boogie's life has been re-told many times by many other channels since 2018, it's still amusing to listen to 🤣. it's like a fable being passed on to generations

[@sideeyed7682]

The amount of fat people i’ve met in life who’ve had a sob backstory on why they’re so fat whenever I bought up the gym. Like just say No lol.

[@maggoteater2290]

Now wait a minute chocolate rain is still a banger

[@scuttlebros]

It's pretty tragic how a guy who had a lolcow persona transformed into a guy who is a lolcow

[@guilhermehank4938]

"Never meet your heroes, they are dicks, all of them"

[@Butler195]

I like how he did a video begging for money outside so you couldn't see all the expensive shit he could have sold to make money¬

[@nothobbesmufc949]

"plz forget I have lots of arcade cabinets"