Puppychan: Artist Insanity

[@CZsWorld]

Imagine watching this as a normal, not terminally online person. You'd be so lost and confused.

[@discontinued8328]

CZ! Love your content, nothing more comforting than watching horror history at night with some hot coco :)

[@sova1235]

Didn't expect you here

[@superlad12]

CZsWorld what are you doing here? 😂

[@yaywippee]

im already confused

[@momentosconmigo]

i have no idea what's going on but i'm intrigued

[@mhomer89]

Using Twitter for emotional support is like using meth to alleviate a toothache

[@norikofu509]

A quote to be tattooed with.

[@iiCounted-op5jx]

lol

[@Zuion_Art]

and that's why i don't have twitter...

[@iiCounted-op5jx]

@Sol Niger true

[@victorancheta2833]

@@Zuion_Art same thats why im not depressed

[@baldigang]

"Autumn joined Twitter in June of 2016 when she was just 13 years old." And so, their fate was sealed

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@tammytheranger7645]

@@moufronn moufronn

[@moufronn]

@@tammytheranger7645 moufronn

[@meandella]

​@@moufronn moufronn

[@Abandoned_Account88]

@@moufronn moufronn

[@vamp_crab]

the fact that his art got less stylized and more fetishized over time is so sad and disturbing. (Edited because he transitioned)

[@nickojackson4820]

yeah its a shame but when you're on the internet and still growing up with these type of gross people online sadly she catered to that because of the dire need of attention and likes.

[@majorpwner241]

@@nickojackson4820 "these type of gross people" Dude chill, every single person has fetishes. You have some, I have some. If anyone is gross we all are. There's no need to be so harsh and judgemental. There's other factors to talk about besides someone's interests. If anything she wasn't socializing enough in the real world and people being judgemental may have a lot to do with that.

[@vamp_crab]

@@majorpwner241 you can’t deny that a lot of her fans fell into her delusions Most of them, either being minors themselves or grown ass men.

[@TheDragonSeer]

​@majorpwner241 not everyone is into weird fetishes, dude. Just because it's normalized doesn't mean it's normal or should be encouraged, you get me? I know it's a shocker, but hundreds of people dogpiling online on the most obscure, depraved shit isn't exactly a good thing. But good to know what's running through your head when you see any random person on the street. "They're a pervert just like me!"

[@majorpwner241]

@@TheDragonSeer Oh so you were born without genitals? You're built like a ken doll? Don't give me that asexual bullshit acting like you're superior, I know better. You might not think your interests are weird but someone definitely does. You have an anime PFP you're not fooling anyone claiming to be 'normal', whatever that means.

[@AlpiineSnowGriffin]

Birdie, Kittydog, and Puppy are prime examples why internet fame at such a young age just f*cks up a child's perception of things. And ultimately affecting their adulthood heavily in the future. I feel for them in a way that their childhood was essentially robbed by the internet and turned into something awful and now they're so addicted to the fame and the attention they don't know how to function as a normal person anymore. Although some factors aren't a result of their early online fame, but a lot of it is and it's just so heartbreaking. This is why I implore parents to carefully monitor their child's internet access, I personally think kids that young shouldn't be online at all but if you do allow it please be a responsible parent and be there with them. Sometimes a little bit of monitoring is necessary for your child's mental health and safety online.

[@izusibir9573]

You forgot Sashley lol.

[@naganut9718]

I think not allowing your kids to be online at all is way too excessive, just carefully watch their interactions on the internet

[@AlpiineSnowGriffin]

@@naganut9718 again I said it's my personal opinion! I can't control what parents do or do not let their kids do. As I said at the very least monitor what their doing to make sure everything is okay, especially if this is a really young kid. I wish I wasn't allowed on the internet at the ripe age of 9 but I was luckily it didn't screw me up too bad? Either way if you think it's too excessive then alright! If you ever have kids (I'd understand if not I hate the idea myself) you can just make sure they're not getting themselves into trouble! Sorry if this is long I just feel like you're not gonna fully understand me unless I put it into full context /Nm /gen

[@RedPawner]

What happened to kittydog? I've heard of 2021 drama from a friend who knows them

[@magentialice]

@@RedPawner kittydog at one point was groomed into some kind of zoophile ring but they're okay now and recovering, they still draw suggestive stuff but kittydog is an adult now and never targeted a young audience, its just that the art style being cartoony made things end up like that. I think that's actually a blessing in disguise if you ask me because nobody would have been concerned if kids weren't following their content.

[@pumpnking]

She's probably the best argument against social media addiction/dependence

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@vexvoltage6456]

chris chan

[@rhino5250]

@@vexvoltage6456 doesn’t matter. This is a video about her not Chris Chan. Go say that shit on chris faggs channel

[@starrr_dust]

"She" is the reason I have stopped using Plebbit.

[@ivanyy]

​@@starrr_dust I don't think she's a Reddit user

[@Bimblar]

A child growing up in a JW house and being raised on twitter sounds as catastrophic as teaching said child how to make mustard gas.

[@cricketandgraham8644]

She *genuinely* needs mental help. This whole thing is like watching a plane crash at 2x speed.

[@AspireGMD]

Being in two cults at the same time...

[@solouno2280]

Mi Alegria old chemistry set had the materials for doing that, it didn't escalate that bad.

[@menekro3168]

I read it with charlie's voice

[@firefire4691]

Y e s

[@ananyanyan]

Autumn clearly needs help, but the jump from "I am the antichrist" to "I'm going to eat blueberries" has me wheezing

[@Y2KRockKitty]

Frl tho 😭

[@RandomGuy-gp4qz]

I thought that said autism instead of autumn for a second

[@Izzy._Vlogzz39]

1000th like

[@AbyssusVenata]

Real, was confused for a sec about how did it get all the way to that. Hopefully she does get the help needed instead of returning to the internet. Also nice pfp. 🙏BLESS🙏

[@shiny_bonnie]

SOBS

[@charat9550]

tbh her old art is rlly good, the artstyle was so unique and stylish. so sad that all her style vanished after she was exposed to toxic twitter

[@spacebam1921]

i know its so sad they could have been such a good artist if she didn't been so depended online

[@realyiel]

​​@@spacebam1921 the constant validation and sudden influx of followers on her account was likely what caused her to keep on going and depending on the internet. its horrible how twitter and the like corrupt young artists to this path.

[@sethinstra]

I’m a full time artist and I do NOT see the “downgrade”. Style and skill is still great, she just went for a different and more simplified style

[@Benjamslikestrains]

@@sethinstra i disagree, i think the shoes and hands on the old one at 13:53 are quite clearly better and they are downgraded in the one on the right. style changes are pretty much natural, but usually i feel like you take what you've learned previously and expand on that, rather than remove details and make it more squiggly. and i'll admit the hair on the old one doesn't work on the newer one, but there's no reason why those shoes couldn't have laces, im not gonna say she lost skill but i think she just got lazy

[@lemondork5689]

@@sethinstra as an artist as well who has seen many artists pull off simplified art styles well and doesn't think more detail necessarily means better art, puppy-chan's art is not an example of that. her anatomy actually looks quite good in older pieces, even the more cartoonish ones, but in the newer art it looks like she started to forget how to draw. it lacks skill and polish compared to her older work imo

[@mostsanestoneyplaysfan7931]

Puppychan age 17: "Me and the minors! :D" Puppychan 2 seconds after turning 18: "I CAN'T. FUCKING STAND. MINORS!!"

[@lafenetre9733]

Its like when you see middle or high schoolers shitting on ipad kids, like my brothers in christ you ARE ipad kids

[@OdaSwifteye]

Nothing more childish than hating children.

[@okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy]

tbh thats a lot of 18 year olds right after leaving high school

[@jffry890]

Average r/teenagers user

[@randomgothkid]

middle school in a nutshell

[@combatmantis4393]

34:23 I will never forget the day Puppychan came back to Twitter, pretended to be asian and expected people to not know it's her despite barely changing her art style. Just peak terminally online.

[@Wroar2020s]

​@bruh moment crazy rich Asians lol

[@48-_]

@bruh moment ur pfp lol rdj

[@swaggerdagger8976]

@@48-_ i’ve seen a lot of people who’ve used the rdj cover in/for memes who don’t even know who aphex twin is lol

[@faiyathefirebnuy170]

I was a bit terminally online but holy shit.

[@poisonouspineapple4534]

Cinema

[@nyxiex.]

she acts like one of those friends who suddenly turns against you and will act innocent and guilt trip all of their friends when you call them out

[@nothobbesmufc949]

she probably is exactly like that.

[@hitfasthithard]

She acts like her mom guzzled vodka when she was pregnant with her.

[@BoldActionSkitty]

No joke, I had a "friend" in middle school who was just like that lol.

[@BrosipTito]

"BLACK LIVES MATTER DIAPERFUR ART" may be one of the more unintentionally funny tweets I've ever seen

[@Johnny-mp2ew]

It's clearly supposed to be intentionally funny

[@yugenryuujin1407]

I had to take a break from the video after that one. 😅

[@SpecialInterestShow]

Ikr? I fucking lost it. I had to take a minute. It belongs on r/brandnewsentence or something as a shining example of what the subreddit is about. All of history, all of mankind's inventions and innovations, everything converged to make that specific string of words possible. Wack.

[@civicmimiv]

I don't even know what could have been appropriate reaction to this post

[@SpecialInterestShow]

@@civicmimiv ikr? All you can really do is laugh at the sheer absurdity

[@0saker]

if you become popular as a twitter artist, immediately hire a personal therapist.

[@shloobington]

therapist don't even want them goddamn 💀💀

[@ijneb1248]

That therapist better be making bank

[@InevitableWelchs]

The therapist would need an assigned therapist after.

[@usualdosage7287]

@@ijneb1248 more than a surgeon tbh

[@jerrysmith8814]

Hire a hitman on yourself

[@Akula111]

social media has done actual genuine irreparable damage to the new generation, I hate that this is just another story in the sea of "I joined social media as a child and grew up warped directly as a result" stories, honestly depressing

[@Redsword603]

Another good reason why I feel minors shouldn't be allowed in social media places like Twitter since it'll mess them up mentally.

[@gregoryblack8109]

Gen Zs addiction to the internet in the 2010 should serve as an example of why you shouldn't let your middle school kids be on social media

[@milkiboreasu]

@@gregoryblack8109 it's actually even earlier for a lot of us, i've been on some form of internet access since 5 (went down weird fnaf rabbit holes with some non-sfw stuff) and was talking to people online since 7 when i got a ps4

[@Poorleeno]

He said.. on social media

[@sdfabctr]

growing up with internet access has really confirmed in my mind how true this is. Kids obviously want access to it but yeah no they definitely shouldn't be allowed on at all when they're really young and even when they get older parents should restrict and monitor access with an obvious case by case awareness. The worst part is that kids themselves think they know what they're doing and will be fine and don't realize until much later how risky and unwise what they were doing was and a lot of parents are still very internet ignorant which is a big issue as well.

[@temmiexgamesmonsterhunter8508]

Seeing this tears a…strange…hurtful hole inside me. Seeing someone’s art slowly go backwards all because their inside should never be shared outside or acted upon thoughts took over. There was so much detail, love, and passion in her art. But now look at it, I have my own troubles that day after day test my commitment in my own art style. But my passion for it stays the same and nothing will change that.

[@TheHuskyK9]

I was today years old when I found out that Puppychan created Goth Garfield. Also, she is unfortunately a perfect example of someone who is terminally online

[@Marta_OuO]

​@higgsbonbonhey i like your pfp, do you know the name of the artist who made it?

[@Marta_OuO]

@higgsbonbon alright thanks ⭐ since they are an nsfw account i gotta ask, they don't do such artwork with kirby right? I wouldn't like to see something like that tbh

[@Marta_OuO]

@higgsbonbon good to know, thanks again

[@ririflutter]

i seriously just feel extremely bad for her. she genuinely needed to just go out with friends and get offline, you can tell she was exposed to some things extremely too young :(.

[@Blind_Eye046]

As someone exposed to R34 on the internet at around age 8(?) 9(?) I don't know exactly, but I'm really glad I didn't do anything like this.

[@ririflutter]

@@Blind_Eye046 yeah same, so i completely understand

[@Soul.Resonant]

@@Blind_Eye046 Its more twitter then that stuff (accidentally searched up videos instead of youtube when I was 7, rookie mistake)

[@rashes2286]

Puppychans story is almost exactly like Birdie’s. Both spent too much time online and became sexual and obsessive

[@ratboy-nu7mv]

yeah having a religiously strict upbringing kinda does this to you. the isolation makes u foster unhealthy relationships like this online

[@BombsAh0y]

As an artist myself, I was actually very sad see Autumn's regression as an artist. Her early work looked pretty good and expressive.

[@po4ti4to]

lol you jsut have the art you deserve!

[@FayeLawnKrack3d]

Agreed. I use that as a motivation not to fuck up my art, too.

[@secretname2670]

I felt the same about RMK. I have checked his account yesterday and uh..... Well, he is a porn seller now, what a shame.

[@JeffreyBenzodiazepines]

All these online "artists" with the style are degenerate filth.

[@sneakymitchell7802]

Just saying she shouldn’t be on twitter at a young age but parents are useless at this point. Cause they don’t care for their children. Reason why I don’t use social media much as a kid. I focused on my education mainly. Even though it affects my social behavior for year or so. But it’s better outcome than being on twitter almost everyday

[@aaronryan1259]

Something that's really sad is the fact that her old art was really good, it was clean and heavily detailed, now it's just simple and fetishes, you can even see in her redraws she makes them "bigger".

[@RoxOn413]

That's probably because of the mental health stuff honestly, been following him (he's a transguy!) on tumblr and his art has sharply improved again and he seems a lot more stable, nowadays he goes for a more semi-realistic style (still cool and furry ofc) but he has quite good figure drawing, people go through rough patches sometimes and it's not the end of the world, seems like he's back on his feet again! :D

[@aaronryan1259]

@@RoxOn413 it's nice he got a happy ending, best of hope for him

[@Shortcakeeeeeee]

@@RoxOn413 Can you tell me his user ?? :DDD

[@air_hum]

​@@Shortcakeeeeeee wolfertinger666 (ik this comment is 2 months old :p)

[@AcidAnnie7]

Watching puppychans art style decline with their mental health is kinda scary

[@vladimiraehben2308]

Lesson : don't get too attached with social media

[@milkk6071]

They’re back on tumblr

[@lollol-gu7wi]

strangely it reminds me of this video i saw of an artist getting worse at his self portraits as his dementia worsened

[@denialh_8il955]

@@milkk6071did anything important happen?

[@milkk6071]

@@denialh_8il955 tumblr

[@ao9688]

Update: puppychan was found on social media again, this time on tumblr. She’s blaming all the shit she’s done on an evil DID alter

[@Ezzdogerr_]

No way she's back after this long drama? Are any KZbinr update about puppy chan Tumblr?

[@FreakyFurryCreations]

Seriously? She's really gonna blame someone else for all that sh!t?

[@Hydrazzle]

whats the @

[@ao9688]

@@Ezzdogerr_ not that ive seen

[@ao9688]

@@FreakyFurryCreations she’s blaming it on a mental condition she *claims* she has for bonus oppression/victim points.

[@AhhBeejams]

This is the textbook example as to why you shouldn't let children have unmonitored and unfettered internet access

[@derpy433]

Also the entire Andrew Tate community, that is one extremely big example.

[@MSDarkspyro]

I had internet access at 12 and even younger. Yah I did look up stuff but I'm not doing anything stupid. Guess my parents raised me right

[@lordhallibel3604]

@@esterbun9356 like the boy scouts who molest. social skills are overrated trash that gets you scammed by indian scammers and coerced by worthless NPCs that try to get you to drink/smoke/bed

[@theone.whoasked]

@blacksheep me too man

[@minus9013]

@@MSDarkspyro That and social media at the time wasn't so toxic

[@NSPRESSO]

My dad walked in on me and asked why I was watching "dog titties" i had to explain to him who turkey tom is, he now calls you bologna Tom and sometime watched your videos.

[@PapricaTheReal]

something about that is absolutely magical

[@BoldActionSkitty]

Honestly your dad sounds goated.

[@Phuajunwei]

"dog titties" sounds very funny

[@NSPRESSO]

@@BoldActionSkitty he is

[@stoicstur]

BOLOGNA

[@cococowboah]

I used to be a Jehovah's Witness and just gonna say throwing away a pokemon plush for being "demonic" is 100% in character for a strict JW parent. I had a friend who refused to shop second hand because she was afraid of bringing demons into her home. She swore a lamp she had was cursed so she took it outside and smashed and burned it.

[@nacloot8700]

Yeah, my mom can be like that too sometimes. She once tried pressuring me into throwing away my stuffed teddy bear because "I'm not allowed to have false idols." It was only after I explained to her that I got it as a birthday gift from one of my closest friends that she finally dropped it and left me alone.

[@skootergirl22]

It's a cult religion. Why is jehovah more sticked than god and Jesus?

[@TheZayroen]

Had a friend who came home to find his sister and mom burning all his magic cards and declaring them SATAN EVIL CARDS cause the fire was changing colors. THOUSANDS of dollars

[@skootergirl22]

@@TheZayroen revenge is in order for them once they get too old to care for themselves

[@gabrielegagliardi3956]

My grandma was a JW but I've never witnessed such craziness, probably due to the fact that here in italy, especially in small towns, their ideology ain't so strong like in America and it's somehow fused with another culture. I've never been a JW neither my parents, the only "funny" thing I remember was that my grandma never gave me 1 cent, meanwhile she gave regularly to the JW community.

[@xy_-un5fg]

hi! im an artist whos also autistic (got tested and everything) i just wanna say: having autism IS NOT AN EXCUSE for someones shi tty behavior for example: if i do smt thats not ok,i have to accept to consequences for my actions AND CANT BLAME IT ON AUTISM ! AUTISM IS NOT AN EXCUSE FOR SOMEONES BAD ACTIONS!! yes autism makes you act different and also makes you experience the world different but that doesnt mean, that you can get away with no consequences after doing something that’s clearly not ok . anyways i hope yall have a good day :)

[@sealogic4552]

At the end of the day I’d say this really falls down to one key issue: puppychan didn’t have any normal or healthy communities in their life. They were caught between Twitter and a cultist family, and never figured out how to make normal friends or develop a real support network. They didn’t have a check in their life to catch them from falling into the deep end.

[@rillwyacandelario7449]

my mom is a teacher to children with disability, and i can agree with that.

[@pauloportas6706]

Not all autism is the same

[@hereforonereason]

i dont even think she used autism as an excuse

[@jerrysmith8814]

Good to know. By the way, some people call me 'the autistic slayer".

[@theveganduolingobird7349]

Fun fact! The internet didn’t ruin children, parents who allow them unlimited access to the internet, without checking up on them did!

[@norikofu509]

You don't shoot the messenger

[@lafenetre9733]

Theres room for nuance here. For example, if a kid with unlimited internet access gets abused/exploited by other, sick internet users, then the fault runs into the hands of those users as well

[@iamyourmaster2565]

@@norikofu509 fr, you shoot the sender.

[@EnsignChummi]

jw witnesses actually tells parents alot of times to be careful with what your parents view, her parents didnt do a good job at following that

[@ikedaren_29336]

did you miss the jehovas witness thing orrr

[@Klay_Voorhees]

Using twitter for therapy is like using a shotgun for a haircut

[@gwenlop9512]

I think it’s akin to using a Leica microtome blade to shave

[@StupidGuy1125]

3:57 3000 calories is the recommended calorie intake for me. For an entire day. Not just one meal.

[@charliepappas-rr3rv]

or using a tank to cut a peice of bread

[@Flesh_Wizard]

Using a landmine as a platform shoe

[@berserkboi1217]

The Ronnie McNutt fade

[@kojikashiin319]

Ironic how the most repressive parents end up creating the degenerates they desperately don't want their kids to be. Love and respect your kids, people.

[@Geuelthefool]

Yep, this is the result of absolutely terrible parenting.

[@sbevexlr848]

The problem was her parents being idiots that don't check up on her funny how they're all about strictness yet it's OK to tweet over 2k tweets in a single year lmaooooo

[@AspireGMD]

That's what happens when your parents are in an awful cult.

[@oscaradeaza1203]

It’s naturally engraved in the soul, but you can’t feel it because you fill yourself with desires, so you won’t do it right.

[@cheezyballz]

@@AspireGMD cult?

[@_Whyro_]

seeing a minor furry whos into diapers say "square up respectable young gentleman" is beyond hysterical

[@Skeeballman64]

Man, I need to frame that quote on my wall.

[@popneppopnep4357]

There is so much wrong with this comment it made me sick for a moment.

[@lordhallibel3604]

@@popneppopnep4357 it should be cleansed by fire

[@Skeeballman64]

@@popneppopnep4357 (Joke.)

[@popneppopnep4357]

@@Skeeballman64 even still then it was a bad joke.

[@DrKoneko]

Talented Twitter artist not be into weird fetishes and committing shady acts involving minors revealed to be a bad person challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[@-error-7936]

Twitter people are weird

[@MrAlien23]

@@-error-7936 mate thats like saying water is wet

[@jarofarts6040]

As an artist, it's so sad to see her art regress as badly as it did. They didn't care about it looking nice anymore, just wanted validation from their little circle jerk. Breaks my heart :(

[@Etoka]

@@MrAlien23water is wet 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

[@tammytheranger7645]

(FAILED)

[@thelastmotel]

As a behavioural psychologist with nearly 30 years in the field, who almost exclusively works with children, teens, and young adults, I genuinely wish the internet wasn't a thing.A professor of mine in the early 90s told me that the vast majority of humans were not wired to handle 24/7 connectivity, and that such a thing would break society.

[@milkymoo3999]

I've sadly known lots of people like Puppy throughout my life just to a smaller extreme. Tell me more about your professor

[@AliceGoist]

it ruined me as a teen. i was terminally online. I would love to read studies on addiction/dopamine from such exposures.

[@novatare]

I'd say the good outweighs the bad, though. You're just looking at the social media side.

[@zloycommentator83]

​@@novatareno they got the point

[@AckReikTheGreatest07]

It's sad how normalized internet addiction has become.

[@quttle9123]

it’s actually fucking wild how she got to a point where it made sense to her followers that she was “impregnated at the hospital and experienced pregnancy symptoms and now it’s GONE” with no fucking follow up?? and HER FOLLOWERS STARTED CALLING HER MAMA PUP?? twitter is WILD

[@shitposter_2]

GREYLOCK

[@N-i-L]

​@@shitposter_2😂😂😂😂

[@JecjecKoolitKidsChannel]

Wild than you think it is

[@evereq8970]

language..

[@brandi3947]

​@@evereq8970 ??

[@Gamewolf66]

3 things in life are certain: death, taxes, and Puppychan making another account

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@TheDigitalApple]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2TCgYOan6lpo8k

[@marcotanooky9651]

And it won't stop coming

[@SuperAgentAlex]

@@moufronn moufronn

[@z3v..]

z3v

[@zoetherebel]

Real glad my autism gave me the “unabashed Sonic stan and LEGO collector” kind and not the “I posted literally everything about myself online and became a public meme farm” kind

[@flosamuu]

those kinds are not necessarily separate. take: Chris chan

[@zoetherebel]

@@flosamuu I hate that you’re right

[@jgsgamergfdgfdgfd1137]

⁠@@flosamuu it’s like that chart with 2 circles showing differences. One side of what Zoe said, the other is well the person in this video, and in the middle Chris Chan

[@zoeb3573]

@@flosamuu I came here to comment this

[@flosamuu]

@@zoeb3573 Lol on a side note I think you're both called Zoe

[@NerdzTM]

For some reason this is my go-to Turkey Tom video I don't know why

[@GreyRadio123]

SAMEE

[@Sapphirerosie]

​@@GreyRadio123SAME TOO

[@resourcefullifestyle2528]

Same 💀

[@JohnnyBoy267]

PUP’S GOTTA EEEAT

[@jaimiesantos8512]

SAME I WATCH THIS VIDEO LIKE ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS

[@swampwitch7313]

I hate how the "being a minor" defense is used recently. Its like a switch for them. They can do things that are obviously not ok for a minor to be doing, and its "let people enjoy things." Then suddenly, when someone calls them out for something, they pull the minor card. If this continues, this will only hurt people who are minors and victims of crimes that target minors

[@cinemint]

Minors should not be on the internet. Ever. Simple as.

[@CatholicPiccolo]

Twitter knows no significance for their actions. They use labels and identities as weapons for internet drama rather then truly caring about them. They will use being a minor or LGBT or black or whatever as a shield and they then use anything, even the littlest of things from the other person's side as the sword. It is unbelievably toxic

[@sigmamale4147]

Its like the race card

[@gryzz6873]

The worst part is how it shields them from criticism that relates to their own content/actions. I really don't think Antoons calling the "period blood" thing out was weird in any way like people made it out to be. Puppy had claimed to be biologically male, however that would mean she's incapable of having periods. His point was objectively correct around the board. I grew up in the MW2 age, where your age did not matter at all bcs no matter what you were a target. People were assholes, but it was fun. I cannot tell you how many times i'd been harassed, called out, or just downright bullied by ppl in my age group or higher online, it's NORMAL. So I really don't see it fit for anybody to pull the minor card to discredit backlash, because we have seen how that plays out. Look at most of the big "Influencers" on Instagram, Snapchat, and TikTok today, they all started as minors, did dumb shit as minors, got excused for it... and now they'll continue to do dumb immature shit for the entirety of their career. All because it's wrong to criticize a minor.

[@aoki6332]

i have commit several war crime but its ok im sowwy and i was a minor OwO

[@error-try-again-later]

The fact Autumn _immediately_ started screeching about demons rather than simply apologize for the meme (or ignore it) is PEAK fundie upbringing 💀

[@firstlast9855]

She didn't even google schizophrenia symptoms or anything just started spewing demon shit lmao

[@disgust4941]

Oopsie, sorry about that it’s my demons, no really, I’m literally possessed

[@cooliostarstache5474]

*PEAK twitter upbringing

[@kbunzzzz]

​@@cooliostarstache5474 *both

[@sumysim3245]

Yeah, she 100% has some issues, but demons aren't something to play with honestly, but it's Twitter- I honestly would love Twitter to do a whole clinically online event with everyone actually going outside and touching grass lol

[@ivyw5862]

Honestly I blame the parents. This girl needed mental help and instead of her parents recognizing that they treated her like crap. Although she also made bad decisions, that can’t be excused, but I still can’t help but feel a bit of sympathy for her. (Edit) was NOT expecting this comment to gain so much traction.

[@aceambling7685]

Zero sympathy for these fcking "people".

[@lorieslori8051]

Jehova's Witnesses are infamous for isolating their members from the outside world, honestly the parents are likely the root here

[@FritzLeAngel]

Damn

[@cheese_covered_water]

However, it’s kinda like Chris Chan. The parents were so batshit crazy or too lose, that the artist broke and became insane to do unspeakable acts.

[@angelbit3s717]

Understandable but feeling just a little bit of sympathy for her is what she wants. Because she’ll use those feelings against you to get what she wants.

[@OubleJum]

A very sad story of an individual who probably experienced a lot of trauma with no exposure to the right help. There's so many more young girls like here suffering to the same things. The world today can be sick.

[@rox7319]

Puppychan is the kind of individual who refuses to take accountability for their own ego. Used to be that person who would recklessly post irresponsible shit on the internet but I strive to not become them and be the best person I can be. EDIT: While someone may bring up my past, I wouldn't view it as attacks like I used to. I view them as call outs encouraging me to be better. I have a life outside of KZbin and numerous social media sites and I anticipate to improve myself as an artist and writer and do the EXACT opposite of what Autumn/Puppychan does.

[@moufronn]

moufronn

[@ziplo]

I believe in you vro just be the savage we all know you can be

[@sigmamale4147]

@@moufronn moufronn

[@moufronn]

@@sigmamale4147 moufronn

[@amogus9815]

@@moufronn moufronn

[@MaskedMagicianJoker]

Probably the most sane twitter artist I've seen so far

[@thatlittlemonstrosity]

True

[@Linkthepichu]

Nah the non LGBTQ and furry ones are sometimes alright.

[@RoseDeDax]

suuuuup :3

[@Crimson0047]

I agree, shocking counting what religion her parents are, I hate that if my mother continued being one before I was born and afterward, I could have possibly ended up somewhat like they were up to 2:12. and possibly worse counting the history of abuse in my family up until I was born. For context: My great-grandma/mother raised my grandmother, a "Witnesses", and then she also raised my mom a "Witnesses" which my mom hated.

[@shiguriyamamo6730]

It's weird just how Famous you can get on Twitter just for unhinged art or a personality. Meanwhile there's people drawing on the level of pixiv artists barely getting over 100 followers xD

[@lauravampire1276]

To me, puppychan just seems like someone who is deeply troubled and needs therapy. She should’ve never been exposed to the internet so soon- I feel she could have gotten better before then.

[@Noel_Wood]

again, as someone who also was exposed to the internet at a young age as well, i personally don't think that warrants her to be emotionally manipulative to her fans & making multiple death threats upon herself, and saying "oh i have this" to excuse horrible things she did. edit: because i for sure don't act like that personally.

[@lauravampire1276]

@@Noel_Wood I totally get that, I just meant that it seems she already had problems in her past and access to the internet made her think it was okay to use her trauma as an excuse to be a terrible person.

[@benshapirolikesdick]

I like watching these videos and drawing yiff.

[@FaeFixion]

Baby Cooper pfp

[@nothobbesmufc949]

@@lauravampire1276 .....i mean in real life she was probably doing the exact same thing. i've known loads of ppl who didn't grow up on the internet who do that. The internet didn't make her worse. it just widened her opportunity to control others which is what she clearly really wanted to do.

[@優花-d8p]

They haven't disappeared at all, they're on Tumblr saying they have DID, that their previous name puppychan was an evil alter who did all of that, keeps fetishizing LGBTQ community and with a rather big following in that platform. It was kinda funny bc there they changed usernames like 4-5 times and was this among us situation of everyone storming every furry artist with a similar style with asks of "Are you sure you're not puppychan..?" 🤨🤨 In my opinion their mental stability hasn't improved even a bit...

[@gink_ie]

Do you know what their tumblr acc is by any chance?

[@sober_katz]

oh no...

[@BatBitesTheBat]

When will people stop faking DID

[@meikusakabe4167]

@@BatBitesTheBat what is did?

[@BatBitesTheBat]

@@meikusakabe4167 dissociative Identity disorder

[@CrayCrayslab]

I was a Twitter artist, it's very addicting to have random people compliment your art and creators you love retweeting fanart. But this shit grew more and more toxic and I decided to leave twitter outright 3-4 years ago. Best decision I ever fucking made by the looks of it. I knew the art community was dogshit, but I didn't know it was THAT bad

[@PocketRowlette]

Twitter's art community in particular seems to be pretty gross compared to other art communities in other platforms. I hear way more drama, "callouts" and filthy things from them than anywhere else, it's oddly specific...

[@TwistedFireX]

I like to make music but I keep looking for validation even though I haven't completed a track. If you ever gotten into a cycle like this, how did you break it? It could be my ADHD I was never taught to manage is the problem...

[@peachesandcream22]

@@PocketRowlette no, Tiktok art community is much worse, believe me

[@noirby5268]

​@@TwistedFireX for me, breaking the neverending cycle of wanting validation from the internet ended when I got some really good friends. I am in a small circle of artists, and I love them to death. I haven't needed a post of mine to reach 100 likes to be satisfied, because i'm already surrounded by people who could give me healthy, non-toxic validation!! That's my experience at least.

[@missrebel634]

I’m mostly active on Instagram. What’s the difference between Instagram and Twitter artist?

[@puppychan9875]

It appears I've chosen an unfortunate username

[@PigeonLivered_Ratbag]

Oh no-

[@norikofu509]

Hey, at least your name isn't Adolf

[@megamanmegamanmegamanmegam8725]

Big oof

[@JohnSinatra88]

​@@norikofu509 I'd rather have adolf as my username then this degenerate shit

[@jart1984]

lmao

[@melumane]

It's honestly sad seeing the decline in her art. But I laughed so hard seeing the post about her art improvement only for someone to praise and compliment the older drawing

[@ChexzMix]

I kinda cringed at it but ended up cackling from how funny I found it in the end, I can never stop thinking about that moment. 😭. I feel so bad for that person. 💀.

[@matthewgarner7215]

It’s the dude’s fault. What entity in this unholy, cold galaxy reads a before and after picture from right to left.

[@NoxarBoi]

@@matthewgarner7215 whooshed

[@Birdy_140]

@@matthewgarner7215 unrelated note but have you noticed how lines in the right often have more people compared to those on the left? Just found that quite odd that I've been noticing very recently

[@dundeecake]

@@matthewgarner7215 people who think what is on the left looks better. I hate this artist comparison 'growth' meme anyway because I just see change but not improvement ever. Artists need to chill.

[@yeahjv]

My biggest fear is becoming someone like puppychan

[@BoldActionSkitty]

Stay tf away from Twitter and Internet drama and you should be fine.

[@backgroundartist1879]

puppychan's story is like a live tragedy.. it starts out good, but her flaws are what causes her to crash and burn. i really do hope she gets some help, and moves on from all this. but i doubt it'll happen...

[@ghostlytavern129]

Yeah I feel really bad she got hit by a wave of transphobic hate. Been there, I am a bit iffy on them because of calling themself a trans-chaser I wanna assume that she didn’t know what that meant because if she did that’s kinda not great. Trans folk are more than their bodies and chasers reduce us to our genitals which is a shitty feeling

[@okaydudelol]

she DID get help. She went to a Psychriatric ward and was R@ped, and most of her Therapists abandoned her. Like what are you saying??

[@SkylarThompson-mu1qs]

​​@@okaydudelol I wanna give this poor woman a hug.

[@brem-]

@@okaydudelol the hell did she do to get most of her therapists to abandon her?

[@okaydudelol]

@@brem- I don't know, but it happened. And the fact that people are siding with Tom on this one is disheartening

[@AwkwardBlackGal613]

Damn I'm glad I grew up in the 2000s. I could not fathom growing up and interacting online with these kind of kids..ridiculous.

[@oddlem]

sameeee, sometimes I feel old but man am I glad I didn't grow up in this time period LOL

[@belosneshkaaaa]

the 2000s were just as bad

[@deensama7718]

@@belosneshkaaaa You're right, I think it's just that back then these people were usually sequestered off in their own, much smaller communities. Shit like Twitter, Tumblr, KZbin etc. which algorithmically puts this kind of stuff in front of you if you so much as accidentally click or tweet something tangential means that it's basically ALL in the open now. So while these people did exist back then and were arguably just as bad (if not worse due to even further isolation), not everyone was exposed to them unless they somehow caught word and started looking

[@crimeandcrafting]

I grew up in the 80s and 90s. I slept through most of this video and spent the time I was awake wondering how I got here and wondering whether or not I should shave my legs before going out tonight All of which are vastly more interesting than anything these kids do 🤷‍♀️ They just want attention. Someone hug them

[@estarriaofficial6463]

Me too

[@oldoutlet6946]

It breaks my heart that these artists, who are so unbelievably talented, become horrid people to some degree if not from the start. They had everything, took it for granted, and scorched it to flames.

[@maartent9697]

Not really weird it's someone with autism who got bullied and isolated from society in her formative years, this is gonna do a lot of damage. If you have autism it's not great hearing people say that you should die, not exist etc from an young age everyday. It's normal under these situations that people crack and go full on crazy, but apparently neurotypicals can't grasp that and think the world is all rainbow and sunhines when you're ostracized

[@cherishporter5314]

@@maartent9697 it doesn’t justify self perpetuating your own misery, just because people didn’t accept you. your going to have to learn to accept your self and move past What other people saying. and only do what’s best for yourself and the people that truly care about you.

[@maartent9697]

@@cherishporter5314 Yeah but that's harder at young age during your formative years, there is a reason why most autistic people commit suicide before their 30s, but yeah goodluck moving past things whilst most of the time autists isolate themselves after years long of traumatic experiences. It's the equivalent of telling someone that was gaslighted to abandon their entire family slowly overtime, live in the middle of nowhere to just move away and breakup from her abusive relationship. It's easy to say but most of the times people in such a position return to the abuser a min of 12 times. Guess what, the same happens to most mental health problems, imagine if it would be that easy to undo years of traumatic abuse bc someone on the internet told you lmao

[@ian04soldado75]

@@maartent9697 I wouldn't be so sure autism was a factor of her mental disorder, but rather an excuse to justify her acting and way of being, as an autistic person I admit I get easily influenced by bad people, thoughts and situations, also the perspective is different of life is way different, but that's something that anyone could suffer

[@maartent9697]

@@ian04soldado75 To me it seems she suffers from age regression and witnessed to many traumatic experiences, it just seems like she's clinging in on her inner child happiness from a long time ago. Besides if you have autism you should know it's a spectrum so comparing our situations to hers generally won't work

[@frogblehfrog143]

thank god i was constantly paranoid as a 13 year old that i didn't post on social media

[@BoldActionSkitty]

Honestly smart move on your part. Social media should buff up the minimum age to be on their sites.

[@vero.V]

I just miss her old artstyle, it reminded me of those japanese street art with satisfying colors that satisfies my eye!, its sad to see her art devolve into those plain art that you see on those fetish artist on inappropriate websites, stay safe on the internet guys! ❤

[@PugginNThuggin]

Her early art was pretty sick actually, even for furry art

[@mikef.549]

😢

[@ImAmericanFr]

@@PugginNThuggin furry art outside of fetish sites are often really good for some reason, my guess is that the average furry got bullied and they took a secluded hobby ie art because it also already had a large furry community, same with trans people and computer science (search up programmer socks)

[@garlicctoast]

@sandraswan9008not really but okay.

[@gyratedpastry]

most furry art is shit@sandraswan9008

[@dr_popcorn]

There are many morals to this story, but I believe the biggest one is this: Treat your children well. Let them have some internet access from time to time until they are mature enough to handle it. And always let them know that you are there to listen to their troubles. Or be like me and don't have children.

[@stevenschnepp576]

I bet that her parents actually did treat her reasonably well. She was just fishing for sympathy. Their mistake was letting her on Twitter.

[@vladimiraehben2308]

​@@stevenschnepp576i rather let my kids get addicted to KZbin Shorts and cocomelon rather than making the kid a Twitter account

[@APERTURESYSTEM]

@@stevenschnepp576 sounds like a conspiracy but at the same time its entirely possible Shits terrifying

[@XMillyyX]

i think really, just teach your child online safety. If you tell a child, "No using tiktok!" they're going to find a way to use tiktok. If you tell them that, but also teach them to protect their privacy, then if they do use tiktok, they'll use it safely.

[@dr_popcorn]

@@XMillyyX Or just don't let your tiny child have a cellphone???

[@platinummew3887]

I used to defend Puppychan during the Antoon situation. I never knew of her problems beforehand. I loved her art and she was an artist i looked up to. I honestly feel so bad for her. I feel like she's incredibly similar to Chris Chan but she hasn't done as much disgusting crap. She obviously has mental problems. Growing up in a Jahova's Witness household didn't help. Being on Twitter since 13 definitely didn't help.

[@skootergirl22]

It's too bad about the age gap between the two and also the drawing skills to boot. They would make an interesting couple

[@klonoafan2012]

Ok transphobie

[@ZombifiedSnake2005]

Same

[@drawdrawjessi1593]

@@klonoafan2012 OK LARPer

[@klonoafan2012]

@@drawdrawjessi1593 ok fake asexual

[@diyamond]

honestly such a sad story of someone who just needed to be loved. they're not a good person, we get that. but they definitely just needed friends. even one good friend could've helped them.

[@nothobbesmufc949]

ppl who weaponize suicide aren't able to be helped. They're manipulators who want to control the ppl around them and on social media they obtain an even bigger group to control. That's what she wanted. Control over others. And it's what she got.

[@coderalfa8991]

The tragic part of this is her art is actually good, before all the drama and the fame going into her head she had a cute and amazing art style. If only she focused more into improving herself than putting her entire life online would things have been different.

[@knox7945]

Separate the art from the artist. Always criticize anything that's flawed on both of them.

[@JakurtyKulgin]

​@@knox7945No,never

[@knox7945]

@@JakurtyKulgin criticism is what makes us better at what we do as an individual and our work. A lost focus of our society.

[@xxstaryyxx161]

​@@knox7945 this bad as the people in this fucking video the point is you shouldn't fucking criticize people at all, unless it something actually matters,

[@xxstaryyxx161]

​@@knox7945 not really it's just a excuse for harassment, people are plenty capable of self improvement with randos online opinions

[@michikip45]

Holy shit I actually used to be mutuals/friends with Puppy way back before she got a following. They were sweet but, damn did getting fame as a young teen really seem to mess her up. Kinda sucked to see in real time you know? Edit: Hey if you ever cover the artist who made “Thomas Jefferson in a miku binder.” hit me up I knew them personally too LMAO I got bad luck man

[@Skwadley]

same!! their art was so cute. they seemed like a sweet kid at the time

[@thatlittlemonstrosity]

@@Skwadley Artist with sweet taste are usually the worst people imaginable. There are rarely any people with disturbing art and disturbing personality. I can only name dollyflesh off the top of my head but tbh to be a claymation artist, you need to be a fucking crazy masochist in the first place (just not this crazy)

[@pepitocovid-91]

Damn, you are pretty unlucky lol

[@malte4984]

i feel like its not only about the attention she got, but also the fact that her family was extremely conservative and her having nonstop access to social media as a young child that caused her to develop this kind of personality, she was probably just a tiny bit rebellious in the beginning but through excess consumption of twitter echochamber garbage and lack of real life interaction it quickly downspiraled

[@LooneyLei]

Wait you NEED to elaborate on the Thomas Jefferson Miku Binder artist, I've heard they drew nsfw of KZbinrs (I think specifically Gamegrumps) but that was ages ago and idk if that actually happened

[@noxxris3987]

Omg I remember her, I remember unfollowing her after the controversy after she just turned 18. I always thought the switch from constantly using her age as a shield to "I hate minors" within two weeks was so fucking funny lmao

[@xXVibrantSnowXx]

Glad i never met him man, my life would've been harder, cuz this person seems like a rather difficult to deal with

[@anstupid4093]

​@@xXVibrantSnowXx ...Him?

[@pigeontoes5421]

@@xXVibrantSnowXx shes not trans 😭

[@justforplaylists6375]

PIERS!

[@AdissapointedSonic]

@@pigeontoes5421 based 💀

[@autisticlettuce]

i watched this video and then i deleted my twitter account

[@BoldActionSkitty]

Smart move. As for me, I watched this video and sighed in relief as I never had one to begin with.

[@cksupreme]

16,000 tweets in one year.... There are 8760 hours in a year. Assuming she slept an average of six hours per night (which is being generous because she probably slept 7-8 hours) then she'd have 6750 hours each day. Divide 16,000 by that number and you get roughly 2.5. On average, for every hour of her waking day: Puppychan logged on to Twitter and posted 2.5 Tweets.

[@juggernaut2704]

otherwise known as super chronically online

[@marseillejoh]

Ok but what’s wrong with sleeping for more than 6 hours? That’s actually the healthy amount.

[@cksupreme]

@@marseillejoh I agree, I never said there was anything wrong with it. I was simply using a low estimate to give her the benefit of the doubt for her chronically online behavior.

[@doubtyou]

What would it look if she did sleep 8 hours

[@kwad9145]

I remember doing the exact same thing when someone on twitter once called me chronically online. Their average was 3 TWEETS every 30 minutes for 8 months.

[@stooopendous]

Christ, Tom really has a bone to pick with Twitter Artists

[@cinemint]

Neverending source of content

[@marthxd9514]

Tom aint mad but aint stressin

[@mintygreendays]

gotta tell people the tales of those who fell off

[@aisponek]

He'll never run out of material for videos with all the utterly ridiculous petty bullshit that goes on with these terminally online "people"

[@iMaytriksU]

I want him to make more videos on them

[@shaggyhuh8596]

It is genuinely confusing on how her art got so much worse. It went from extremely well done AT 13 to being just average twitter art which is overly saturated and boring. Regardless of it being sexual or not it just isn’t as good.

[@cosafea8722]

Her art got worse because of Twitter algorithm, when her account was active she would post like 3-4 and more drawings in a day, you can also say it deteriored because of her mental health

[@NerdTheDemon]

Reminds me of William Utermohlen, a man who was diagnosed with alzheimers. He drew self-portraits of himself and over time you can see his works deteriorate due to his alzheimers, eventually becoming near unrecognizable. Extremely sad yet fascinating to see.

[@Ihazfunkitty]

Those first drawings were made from passion but then she just drew slop to be praised. Especially those redrawings were made just to capture that initial praise from the crowd.

[@voodoo2006]

​@@IhazfunkittyPlease dont say slop pyrocynical just made the word worse

[@ebc6970]

​@@voodoo2006 Not everyone watches him and cares enough about it. If one influencer "ruins" a word, does that mean every single human needs to comply with that? Every word would just stopped being used at that point. I don't know the context but do tell it first before you told someone to do anything you want them to do.

[@kookiebits-1284]

I generally feel so bad for her. She’s been on an app like twitter at a young age and dealt with a bad childhood which is probably the reason her art and behavior was effected so badly 😭

[@kookiebits-1284]

Thankfully her art has done better, and so has she

[@kookiebits-1284]

I also am not a big fan of her, and the things she did was really weird 🙁

[@maplecandy.]

The Antoons thing was actually disgusting though. He was planning on continuing his behavior the second she became "legal" which leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. Plus hes also stonetosses lil twitter boyfriend which automatically means he sucks

[@Bagelsmoker1945]

Actually he got banned from twitter THREE Times.

[@coolkiddo3110]

right and having her sona shoot period blood is fucking revolting especially for a grown man to draw and animate and code out of beef with some random child

[@Nikku4211]

Wasn't he outed as a paedo too?

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

@@Nikku4211 Wouldn't be surprised. He went after Izzzyzzz, (another minor at the time) for making a vid about him, and hearing she was asexual, he leapt straight into calling HER a paedophile. Just... how quickly he leapt to that weird ass conclusion makes me wonder about projection a little bit.

[@anyakii]

@@gokuxsephiroth4505 he went after IZZZYZZZ too? I forgot about his existence after the puppychan stuff

[@snartshack]

i'm sorry but the way puppychan waxes melodramatic about how she's dying and can't get out of bed and tom just goes "this was revealed to be diabetes" had me laughing. a pup's gotta eat

[@shloobington]

a pup's gotta eat

[@internettraveler8666]

a pup’s gotta eat

[@EerieJoe]

a pup's gotta eat

[@bumgus7488]

A pups gotta eat

[@captaincaspian42]

a pup's gotta eat

[@Youngson113]

I was just overcome with sadness and sympathy the second you revealed she was a Jehovah's witness. That organization will either strip you of all personality and social interaction, or make it so that children born into it don't receive any of that growth to begin with. I was able to leave, but I still deal with its effects at 27 years old.

[@araven2472]

i haven't been able to get out quite yet, but as soon as i heard in the vid she was a jw, i immediately just could tell like "yeah, this is kind of predictable". You either end up staying but giving up on personality and hobbies and everything not related to god, stay in but mentally out and depressed for the rest of your life, or you get out w no knowledge of how to act among other people who didn't grow up with it and end up being weird someway. Lack of boundaries, lack of filter, going to the extreme with sexual stuff, it can kinda all be traced back to it. She's done lots of bad things, but at the end of it, I feel bad for her.

[@ethantomlinson]

@@araven2472damn that gave me a new perspective

[@soldecle]

I don’t know what sort of JW are in America but where I live it’s just a religion like others like one of my family’s friends are JW and they’re completely normal. They’re parents are best friends with my parents all the kids are very extroverted and friendly like they have a daughter my age we’re both 04 and she literally is friends with the whole city she even participated in a pageant and won. And her family was there rooting for her. I’m saying this to say being JW isn’t always this chaotic evil thing

[@nemui_777]

i have a friend whos a jehovahs witness and she told me that she isnt allowed to have friends cus it was most likely that the people she meets at school arent jehovahs witness so she had to keep her friends a secret from her parents

[@c0sm1ccall1sto]

@@soldecle As someone born and raised as jw, it certainly isnt a chaotic evil thing all the time, but i did leave because i got tired of it. religion was never really my thing and i only stuck with it because i was afraid of my parents kicking me out or shunning me, and also having to deal with talking to the elders. i respect anyone who is still JW because thats their belief and i'm fine with that, but there are people who were once jw and left it for various personal reasons, and i find it quite annoying when JWs try to re-indoctrinate us back into the belief even though we have stated our discomfort / discontent with being in the religion.

[@tsuki_87]

This inspired me to have the confidence to share my art; but also, as an artist, this was a perfect example of what *not* to be like.

[@Kat-rz2vc]

Fun Fact! there's a lot of psych meds that can cause both men and women to produce milk! it's a very weird side effect. Plus, she wouldn't start producing milk that early on in a pregnancy, especially early enough to not see a bump and to just be missing one or two periods.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

Also how can a Trans Person Become Pregenant lol, nobody yet has made a True Transition Operation and Trans people just often use Hormons. But yeah this is a good explaination of Lactation on her case

[@randomstranger8938]

Low-key, that part of the video anger me beyond belief, the fact she would fake a miscarriage and rape is utterly disgusting, especially with my experience with it making it even more insulting

[@pmchad]

How in fucks name does that work

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

@@pmchad Hormones simulate stuff or activates stuff in the body (as in they make cells do things when released or injected) its a really weird and complex process, for example Trans people have Simulated Mens as a biproduct of Hormones (excreting Blood like Biological Women) sometimes lactation also happens or when its a disease like Hyperthyroidism than despite increased Food intake the person remains thin, Growth Hormon makes organs and tissues bigger ect. But a Trans person being pregnant makes no sense. (More likely Pup is just misinterpreting Hormone use for Pregnancy having apparent mental issue as explained in the vid.)

[@pmchad]

@@forickgrimaldus8301 that makes more sense now, but why the hell would someone make something designed to help with mental problems also have hormones, I feel like that could backfire and screw up the patient even more

[@koolkat123]

tbh i love obscure internet drama like this. its so weird how people behave online compared to real life.

[@jart1984]

anonymity does wonders in making people act out their most unholy desires

[@gokuxsephiroth4505]

It's like a different world, isn't it?

[@wren_.]

@@gokuxsephiroth4505 it’s like watching caged animals in a zoo. I can’t tell if I should be laughing or studying them

[@saepphire]

It's the presence of the 4th wall that makes users think their "safe" due to anonymity and nobody finding them.

[@WarmToast707]

That's what the online disinhibition effect does to you.

[@Lil_Noot]

This is why I’m afraid of sharing my art or being a content creator. This shows how petty, immature, and mean people can get when they don’t like something. Granted, she was too young for the platform but the way some of her biggest critics acted was downright toxic.

[@Dria_Ah]

Omg same, i used to post art on twitter and when i got 3k likes in one of them because of a hashtag i imediately deactivated because i got scared💀

[@renatayuuki5705]

Me too, I'm always tell I'm very talented but I don't know

[@Dria_Ah]

@@renatayuuki5705 if people tell you're talented then you might as well be🤣 just don't be a weird artist like those we see in videos and you're good

[@adog3129]

don't rely on it for emotional support, and keep nsfw stuff separate. it's not hard to avoid making her mistakes

[@Lil_Noot]

@@adog3129 I’m more concerned about someone stealing my ideas when they aren’t copyrighted. For example: Flowerfell’s creator tried to remove the AU as a whole after being under immense pressure, but hundreds of people refused to let go. The idea was no longer their own anymore. I would rather not see my ideas copied by others, especially with how much work I put into each character.

[@Mantisblu]

The jump from diaper fetish accusations to “I am god” is just crazy to me.

[@yeziasky7591]

Im sorry but the pic of her holding a single blueberry had me chuckling

[@norikofu509]

"I became Death... The Eater of Blueberries"

[@armyofuno8196]

"Put down the blueberries and no one gets hurt"

[@Canum7137]

''This is it... The blueberry to end it all...''

[@charliebat]

weirdly it reminded me of zootopia because of the blueberry switch thing

[@JUNKZINTERLUDE]

The things Antoon and his fans did to them was DISGUSTING. Not defending puppychan at all but I agree with them on this situation. This was vile, especially coming from an adult that should’ve known better.

[@ieatplasticandNOBODYcanstopme]

I agree, the only thing he did was make the situation 100x worse.

[@XXTH3ST4RXX]

it’s so weird. why was he so obsessed? he’s a whole grown man.

[@worm_-qx7rz]

His content looks like elsagate but for racist 14 year olds

[@khomperz]

I completely agree. I feel like he went too far especially with the game attacks

[@Big-Chungus21]

Antoon is still doing the same sort of stuff right now. Back during the Puppychan discourse thing, he made a game about him killing all of the people he disliked on Twitter, and often depicting them in pretty disgusting ways (including minors). It was one of the pettiest things ive ever seen, and I believe he said he cancelled the development of it when people began noticing. Turns out the dudes still working on it. I havent used Twitter for a couple years now, im much happier. I quit around the time this whole thing happened.

[@lafenetre9733]

People treat the situations of “kid drawing nsfw” all wrong. They immediately attack them as if they just said something racist. The truth is you have to handle this much more maturely. Kids who make things like this are often victims of grooming/sex abuse, or just generally have an unhealthy porn addiction. Report their content, and if you want to tell them something, just be serious and stern, like: “Hey, I know you’re going through a time in your life where you’re curious, but you are putting yourself at risk by creating this content at this age, and its something you’ll possibly regret”

[@lifeisadrag7705]

I agree however..I don't think it's necessarily means they have an addiction depending on the age. Like teenagers clearly have their hormones. Especially teenagers who are restricted from religion, especially from a cult like JW... I don't think it's necessarily wrong for them to draw nsfw art and keep it to themselves.

[@lafenetre9733]

@@lifeisadrag7705 yeah, honestly idc wtf kids do as long as they keep it to themselves. Usually the problems are because they post the art publicly, and therefore it is now in the eyes of adults, so it gets fucky and weird because its not a good idea to have adults consuming sexual material made by kids

[@lifeisadrag7705]

@@lafenetre9733 Ditto, I think this ties into the fact that we should be doing a better job to help educate the youth when it comes to being online and dangerous situations with adults. Not telling them that sex is scary and bad and never do it with furthermore no explanations.

[@ToonLinkah]

The problem is the internet. Anyone under the age of 18 should not be allowed online. This would fix all issues.

[@everythingslayer_888]

I did NSFW art as a teen and I wasn’t a victim of grooming.

[@R4NC1D_M43TZ]

Good lord. She reminds me so much of my awful ex who is also a rather popular popular twitter artist who live tweets her mental breakdowns for thousands to see... I hate having to see her art since we are kinda in the same circles online. A lot of the stuff Puppychan did is so much like my ex that its fucking spine chilling. Terminally online people are the worst type of people to surround yourself with. Unfortunate it took me 12 years to realize that.

[@Bum-tan]

At least you are aware now !

[@dayzdoodles1380]

I made a character that was pretty popular among my twitter following and a mutual of Puppychan loved them and would share my art quite often. A few months later puppychan would make a character just like mine just a bustier and would receive a shit ton of praise for how original the concept was some of my friends found the similarities disturbing but as a small artist I couldn't do anything but sit and watch people praise her for it.

[@escapefr0mslender]

Which character was it, if you don't mind me asking?

[@MidoseitoAkage]

Is this true. Do you have the evideñces to prove it?

[@sillyobserversilly]

im sorry that happened. what a parasite puppychan is

[@ChillOki]

Hey, not doubting about your story or anything similar but, do you have any proof that she did that? Im really curious about if this is true or not

[@po4ti4to]

what a loser....................... you are

[@BalticRat]

26:53 the blueberry arc is hysterical "I have consumed it" with the attached single blueberry image is top tier comedy.

[@thebignigga69420]

" The blueberry arc " 😭

[@heidokij]

THE BLUEBERRY ARC JSKSJSKJS

[@Arandomshark]

BLUEBERRY ARC ☠☠☠

[@tlepageart4294]

Blueberry arc 💀🤣

[@ziyolore2008]

*I HAVE CONSUMED IT.*

[@guanglaikangyi6054]

The amount of times she tried to go back is astounding to me. I will never get people being that addicted.

[@mang0_cat444]

Well u said it right there...addicted, as an addiction, which is very hard to stop or quit

[@sharky4029]

@@mang0_cat444 Addiction 2.0: Electric Boogaloo Ultradiction Addiction plus ultra Addiction IS UNBREAKABLE Addiction is bad :(

[@mang0_cat444]

@@sharky4029 its not unbreakable, its hard to break but not impossible, many Have done it

[@sharky4029]

@@mang0_cat444 okay Addiction IS NOT ACTUALLY UNBREAKABLE BUT IS VERY HARD TO BREAK BUT SPECIFICALLY NOT IMPOSSIBLE AS MANY HAVE BROKEN IT MEANING IT IS, in fact, NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK BUT JUST VERY HARD yeah thats a much better title.

[@Carap-kz8qu]

@@sharky4029 goot

[@MGS-lore-enthusiast]

17:24 THE TRANSITION FROM BIBLICAL HORRORS TO AN EMOTICON KILLED ME😭

[@strwberry_kittenz]

BAHAHAHAHAA

[@gemreaper8524]

It's so crazy how i came across her art occasionally on twitter and thought her dog ocs were cute; being completely oblivious of the hidden lore until now.

[@Hiro9921]

same here

[@XxeroguroxX]

same...

[@drkreuzer670]

Do ya'll think she'd be much more stable if she wasn't stuck with JW parents? I feel like she would.

[@WhoJizzedInYourMilkshake]

Absolutely, being sheltered that badly and then let loose on the internet will always have bad results, autism or not lmao

[@NoNo-vv4vo]

yup. JWs aren't allowed non-JW friends, you don't get birthdays/halloween/christmas, you have to keep folk at a distance and can get disfellowshipped (iced out) for stupid shit like 'attended a rowdy college party'. There's a disfellowshipped guy covering caleb and sophia that goes into it, even the most sanitized showing of JW beliefs via cartoon propaganda shows the cracks pretty early. (caleb has to throw out a wizard warrior toy he was given because Magic Bad and jehovah won't like it, Sophia is sad because she has no kid friends her age so they try awkwardly saddling her with a teenager from church) ...so yeah, she didn't go out and touch grass and network with people because unless there were other congregation families nearby that wasn't *allowed.* I'm guessing her mum had no idea what the hell a twitter was and everything downspiralled from there, that's without getting into "not-straight person existing in JW".

[@meyeneetuks4680]

Most likely. One thing Ive noticed about kids with religious parents is that they turn out 1 of 2 ways 1. Just like them 2. Completely the opposite Theres almost no inbetween

[@toons8744]

No, I think she could have achieved a healthier balance with her family snd a healthier mental state regardless of rhe religion. She made the mistake of running headfirst into the internet as a kid and her parents should have regulated her usage more and fostered a healthier bond.

[@middyjohn]

these things happen regardless of religion, you can find them easily on tiktok or insta. It really depends on the parents

[@OfficiallyLarry]

I love it how Tom is on the verge of laughing his balls off on multiple instances due to how batsh*t crazy Puppychan's takes are

[@SuperGrassEater]

The "BLACK LIVES MATTER DIAPERFUR ART" made me crack lmao

[@OfficiallyLarry]

@@SuperGrassEater but you gotta agree that pup's gotta eat

[@BoldActionSkitty]

And the part where he said "we're in too far" but he just continues lol

[@domadex8032]

Guy "I like the picture on the right. It's vibrant. And the poses too! How much you've improved!" Puppy Chan "that's the old art"

[@sickening_love1154]

17:14 This is a sign. "The little innocent child, who lost her innocence at eight does not exist anymore". A sign that she might've been groomed and other abuse related to it. People should be more mature in handling kids who are possibly victims, which reflected in her art.

[@BH-2023]

It's not a sign. She probably wasn't groomed. It's her being overly dramatic and trying to get attention. Actually groomed people don't say anything even remotely close to that, most are either to lost in the sauce or ashamed to be that openly melodramatic

[@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa]

i love watching videos about people ive never heard of who are apparently horrible

[@florenceshady]

yoo same

[@axelcubico4512]

It makes you appreciate your life

[@Kuneho_Archives]

Literally what I'm doing ☠️

[@BalqisAtihrah]

same-

[@Iloveatingice]

Same 😀🔫

[@hi-rh9cq]

i feel bad for her to be honest. As someone who is autistic himself, we tend to slip into online communities easily, often times bad ones, but for many people the realization hits too late. I really wish she could have gotten the support she needs in time. (also fuck Antoonz)

[@On1_Ryu]

I don't think that being autistic played a big role here. Anyone could have fallen into this behavior. + Her basically bragging about her autism, makes me question if she really was autistic. I also don't think it was purely the comunity's fault, either. It was a combination of her parents, not giving her enough attention and being nuts, the comunity, instead of confronting her, they pampered her And gave her the attention she wanted, but not in a way that she needed. And... Let's face it, She was old enough! If she was aware of herself, and intelligent enough to take her own life into her own hands and rather than become terminally online, go outside, literally touch grass, go do sports or something... None of this would have happened. And yeah, maybe being autistic plays a role in that... I wouldn't really know. I don't know much about autism, accept for some conversations with an autistic classmate, and my psychologist when they told me about it, and that I May be slightly autistic, before ruling that possibility out.

[@Hostefar]

@@On1_Ryu she's fucking insane she can't exactly take a step back and review her situation

[@hereforonereason]

@@On1_Ryuim not reading allat

[@Power-kn6fk]

@@hereforonereason why? Do you need Subway Surfers gameplay and soap cutting under it to get past 2 sentences?

[@hereforonereason]

@@Power-kn6fk Maybe, i like watching movement

[@doggo_woof6046]

as someone who sometimes age regresses, i can agree with 1 thing. Age regression isn't s//ual, and it's a trauma response. In my childhood, i was heavily abused by my own sister and forced to do s//ual things for her. So, sometimes, i regress into a more kidlike state. It isn't voluntairy, but the fact Puppychan is treating it like something s//ual is just...ew ew ew ew ew.

[@Phobe6656]

dude i also have a sister like this, im sorry for you.

[@slippyfruit8538]

@@Phobe6656 CIA couldn’t water board this shit out of me

[@kissy_kitty_kat]

You'll probably get a lot of hate comments for that but this Comment is not one of them. Trauma does effed up things to people and whatever helps you that's amazing. I hope you're doing well.

[@Bepetoni]

There is an overlap of abdl (either non and sexual) and voluntary age regressors, unfortunately. I think they tried to adopt a coping mechanism they didn't understand. (I hope you are safe and well)

[@drewmyers3916]

​@slippyfruit8538 because this person is lieing just like the weird chick this video Is about. never believe what people say online.

[@Reiiksol]

i followed puppychan back when they introduced Tammy and Magna, and really loved their art, but unfollowed/blocked in 2019 once i couldn’t handle the “im going to kill myself” tweets anymore and almost completely forgot about them. Crazy to see what they’ve been up to since then.

[@flygonplayzpokemon6353]

What’s crazy is that if you didn’t you could’ve become like them theoretically but prolly not

[@Reiiksol]

@@flygonplayzpokemon6353 uhhh. no lmao 😭 i would not have.

[@flygonplayzpokemon6353]

@sandraswan9008 idk either tbh 💀

[@MartinProductions]

The amount of issues this girl has or claimed to have is absolutely insane. I’m not suggesting she doesn’t have issues. She definitely does with how she handled this, and needs professional help. But the amount of things she said she has is just.. ridiculous

[@spacebook8923]

And if it ever comes out that none of it was real, that in itself is a mental illness. Claiming to have a mental illness when it’s been proven you don’t and yet still run with it is still a mental illness

[@LuckoDaStars]

i had a benign tumor in my head that DID screw me up mentally. i actually had a heart attack that did kill me and was revived, survived a huge car wreck, brother's enemies tried to kill me and much worse things. i can take responsibilty for myself and the things in my life even though life wasnt kind at all. she on the other hand.... she is mental and needs to remain in the asylum

[@klonoafan2012]

Ok transphobie

[@xXVibrantSnowXx]

He*

[@datekaname2246]

​@@xXVibrantSnowXx puppychan is a cis female last time I checked.

[@adisappointedfbiagent449]

Only 6 minutes in and my brain wants to claw out of my skull this is violently uncomfortable and horrifying at the same time.

[@isuckatusernames4297]

strap in, there's still half an hour left.

[@derply05]

Puppychan actually uses tumblr now and Its safe to say their artstyle has definitely gotten better but the pattern with their oc’s having little to no clothes hasn’t changed very much. Though it seems the whole death threats thing is gone now

[@Bum-tan]

Funny how they seeked attention so much back then on Twitter and now they want to stay low key on Tumblr ! Can't blame them after all the hate they received even to this day. This just proves that using the internet at a young age really does harm.

[@tallussy_hallussy]

their art still seems kinda trans fetishy sadly

[@BottomlessWater]

I observed that Tumblr is the best website to stay low and also helps repressed artists back to their feet. Since the toxic community moved to Twitter or Tiktok, Tumblr was just as the same ever since it was born, when it was just a place for artists being comfortable with each and sharing each other art with small audience just being supportive.

[@beelzebub219]

​@BottomlessWater what's her Tumbler?

[@tallussy_hallussy]

@@beelzebub219 i think its like wolfertinger666 or something

[@BlqckBirdMusic]

I’m pretty sure her and her family stayed, at my family’s bed and breakfast and she drew me. My grandmother ran the b&b for Jehovahs witnesses she’d get people from all over. One spring I stayed a couple weeks and met this girl her moon sister and I wanna say aunt. She was very shy, socially awkward said very little and in a voice barely above a whisper but was sweet and spent much of her time drawing in a notebook or on an iPad . I was sitting on the porch drinking tea when she walked up and handed me a little sheet of paper, it was a portrait she’d drawn of me. It was really adorable.I will say her mother seemed a little hard on her and nit picked a lot. I remember her father had passed away too and it had taken a toll on the family unit. What an incredibly small world

[@lucas-xg7dc]

this did not happen bro

[@BlqckBirdMusic]

@@lucas-xg7dc it definitely did happen whether it was her or not I’m not positive but that is an experience I had.

[@BlqckBirdMusic]

@@lucas-xg7dc June 11 ‘18 was the date I posted the drawing on IG.

[@perigarlic]

Anyone with chan in their username have probably comitted murder

[@Roaring_thunder12]

Don’t slander my boy Jackie Chan like that 😤😤😤

[@ziloleepic3390]

@@Roaring_thunder12 this feels like a joke with an incredibly deeper meaning and implications but it loops around to being skin deep

[@flintfrommother3gaming]

Chris Chan did nothing wrong, it's just the voices in his head. GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[@usoppfangirl8153]

As someone who put 'chan' at the end of their usernames as a tween, I agree with this.

[@thatlittlemonstrosity]

I think it should be written in the constitution

[@yahoonie]

this is literally the most chronically online video ever oh my god

[@buffandsus]

LMFAAAAOOOOOOO

[@APERTURESYSTEM]

Shits oddly terrifying too at certain points

[@waffledogs]

This whole video makes me glad that i never had access to Twitter during the time when all the chronically online drama happened

[@illumi1749]

i cant even describe how much i laughed at the bit with the blueberry just imagining her going "I WILL DO IT. I WILL EAT THIS BLUEBERRY IF YOU ARNT CAREFUL"

[@Silver_solace221]

I've met someone like this and honestly, mental illness isn't an excuse for poor behavior. I'm kinda tired of people hiding behind mental illness as a safe guard for their actions when I literally live with a multiple personality disorder. I take full responsibility for anything that happens. I will never speak to the person from my own experiences ever again because you really just can't reason with these people unless your on their side. The internet is awsome but just remember minor or not people are still people and can still be shitty

[@yoshisarethebomb]

I think depending on the extent, it’s understandable but not excusable. Like break downs, BPD, etc. can make you do things you regret and such but for creepy or illegal things, absolutely not

[@stonecoldsteveaustin9353]

Totally agree. I'm prescribed narcotics (xanax and ritalin) and I'm a former alcoholic/meth addict. I never committed any other crimes, never harassed or abused anyone, never preyed on minors, etc. It's total BS how people use mental illness and substance abuse or even trauma as an excuse for shitty behavior. We're all human, we all have issues, and we're all accountable.

[@APERTURESYSTEM]

@@stonecoldsteveaustin9353 Couldn’t have said it better, but small correction: narcotics are actually opioids and some other shit. Xanax is a medication used to treat anxiety and depression (and maybe other stuff idk), but I don’t know much about Ritalin. I could be wrong but I’m just running off of my current knowledge with certain medication

[@TheDragonSeer]

I really needed to hear this today. Thank you.

[@Silver_solace221]

@@TheDragonSeer hey light and love friend! The worlds got enough hurt already protect yourself best you can and live your best life ♡

[@HavianEla]

As someone who’s had the “I’ll kill myself” statement threatened against them constantly by my very mentally ill sister, I have little patience for emotional blackmail. If someone tries to use that to trap you - call the cops and get the hell out. You did your part. I’ve been suicidal myself, so I get those feelings, especially living life in chronic pain. However, I don’t threaten everyone with that over slight inconveniences and lightest backlash. I’ll talk to someone I trust if I know I’m about to do something stupid, but that’s pretty much the extent. People who emotionally blackmail others with suicide, I find, tend to be SEVERELY narcissistic.

[@divine555]

Not really narcissistic, just honest and desperate, still should ignore them though as much as their able to

[@realleon2328]

My brother does this shit all the time too, it's really exhausting

[@DesolatedAbsolution]

Some person: If you don't do this, I'll kill myself! Me: *gives them a knife* Me: *Then do it.*

[@404_Toonz]

Honestly, if somebody I didn't like tries this thing with me I would NOT be gracious enough to call the authorities

[@schr1mp]

as someone who is a medically classified narcissist (NPD), we don't claim people like that at All

[@HoneySenpaiIRL]

She just seems like a person that needs genuine help. Stuff like her age regressing is easy to laugh at and point out as weird, but its a copeing mechanism many People do.

[@TheDragonSeer]

No it isnt.

[@renzotkac1236]

true, how funny that normal people SOMEHOW always expect an autistic kid acting normal like them and when they don't meet their expectation, they trash talk and bully the kid who can't even defend himself due to his mental state. AND even if you stand up and fight back, they won't be reasonable at all, they will SHAMELESSLY potray you as Dumb and Evil when they are Smart and Justice EVEN THOUGHT THEY ARE THE WRONG ONES . As an 23 yo Autistic man, i feel like i'm so hopeless, people keep stepping on me everydays , no one listens to me and i can't do anything that i want to at all. i feel like don't have human right in this world, it's so cruel and unfair. IT'S SO FUNNY THAT NORMAL PEOPLE ALWAYS ACT LIKE THEY KNOW AUTISTISM BUT IN REALITY THEY WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT AUTISTIC PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THROUGH

[@HoneySenpaiIRL]

@@TheDragonSeer Age regression is often done to heal someone’s inner child. Like I.E, if someone had a traumatic childhood or a childhood with absent parents, they might age regress to fill in that gap of their life they missed out on. It can be done for a hobby but most of the time it’s a copeing mechanism. You can look it up if you want.

[@Stabbyidiot]

As an autist. Stfu age regression is still super weird no matter the brain.

[@HoneySenpaiIRL]

@@Stabbyidiot as an autist also, ive seen a lot of people who cope with trauma through age regression. Like if you had a traumatic childhood you might age regress to try and live the childhood you never had. Its just a copeing mechanism. If you Think its still cringe or weird or gross you could be mistaking it for ABDL, even though age regression isnt sexual.

[@Atlastheonlyyes]

it’s really sad how her art style became like that, it was so creative at the beginning, then it declined with was really sad because her old art made me wanna start drawing :( and it’s so sad how bad her mental state became, i feel so bad, but I’m glad she might’ve gotten some help/ she stopped going online, i really hope she’s getting help now