Turkish and Charlene get into HUGE DEBATE on Havertz vs Jesus

[@maximusorbis2548]

I know Havertz has his issues but he is miles better than Jesus post injury. He also fits the style of play that Arteta wants to play

[@TJTOPBOY]

Neither of them are good enough let’s be totally honest.

[@jahvaughnjones877]

Bullshit my friend

[@EXQLoaded]

@@TJTOPBOY Havertz is not even a number 9. His attributes suit a different role better, but Havertz isn't as good as the players we have in those other positions. The difference between Havertz and Jesus is Havertz still has plenty of room to grow, Jesus has peaked. Havertz can be good enough with time, but Jesus is finished

[@vincentfrimpong4665]

He is not better than jesus when jesus is on form, plus jesus contributes massively in different ways.

[@ivandrabo7695]

​@@vincentfrimpong4665He is too injury prone he'll never reach his peak again

[@sloth5990]

Disagree with Turkish with this one. I think he’s a bit biased towards Kai and this is coming from someone who really admires Turkish

[@BoiledMilkSteak7]

Imagine admiring turkish. What a bozo

[@harrybear23]

Turkish has to hate someone. Once Granit left, he's moved onto Havertz.

[@Alexander-sy3oe]

Probably because Havertz shouldnt be starting 9 for Arsenal and when we get Isak youll understand

[@TBE99]

The hate shifted from Ozil to Xhaka then to Havertz 🤣

[@olilais92]

​@TBE99 the ozil hate was absolutely ridiculous, jesus and havertz are both clowns though

[@kbernieshoW]

@@Alexander-sy3oe who told you isak is yours to get ? Haha the entitlement of a club who have never spent more than 90 million on a player .

[@MuLLi25]

@@kbernieshoWhow much did rice cost might wanna do some research

[@AHE7o8leh]

To me there is to debate, they are both not good enough

[@ludovicmf5072]

that wasnt part of the conversation, we can only talk about what we've got

[@MaximusPK]

@@ludovicmf5072 exactly

[@nassirsayid2765]

That’s is true but he’s comparing players we have with players we don’t have that makes no sense

[@curtisohara9158]

Did havertz steal or do something on Turkish because omg🤣🤦🏻‍♂️ havertz has proved Turkish wrong yet again he scored. He must have a short memory havertz has scored goals and important ones. He's moving like lee gunner just wants to be right and won't give credit where it's due.

[@BestInTheWorld13x]

U dont rlly listen do u

[@curtisohara9158]

@BestInTheWorld13x oh I listen. I've been listening about it since havertz signed.

[@BenjaminSam100]

Lol I think Havertz did do something bad to Turkish

[@BestInTheWorld13x]

@@curtisohara9158 u don't, fans like u just don't listen to Turkish properly and get in ur feelings. I just hope this club wins something big this szn cuz y'all praise the moat average players and wonder why fans like Turkish get mad & "negative" abt going 20 yrs without a title

[@GhengisGoon]

His goal ratio is average for someone that cost 65 mill

[@hamzaahmed1819]

You know Turkish has 0 ball knowledge when Charlene is making better points than him. Havertz has been playing out of position for most of this season...plus 3 games where we were down to 10 men and not looking like an attacking threat. Furthermore, comparing Jesus' first season to Havertz' is just disingenuous. When Jesus came in, everyone EXPECTED more of him; it was advertised as a coup. Havertz, everyone wrote off, and he overperformed. So Turkish should stop reacting to criticisms from the chat with more nonsense, getting defensive, and doubling down on his nonsense arguments.

[@lambo9286]

Havertz still not worth his price tag, watch him ghost later this week lmao

[@elozinoemeovrode9779]

@@lambo9286you can argue that with your grandfather but he is better than jesus you made no point it almost as if you didn’t read what this man typed you just have narrative build up in you

[@dannykay5536]

​@lambo9286 your a spurs fan init lol

[@lambo9286]

@@dannykay5536 why would I support a club that’s won 0 trophies, bottles everything they have their hands on?

[@lambo9286]

@@elozinoemeovrode9779 never said he wasn’t better then Jesus lmao, both of them aren’t good enough for your club, to win trophies u need a proper striker like isak, not a one goal wonder every 15 games 💀

[@saurabhahlawat425]

I feel sorry for Charlene. This is what it must feel like talking to a tree.

[@yokermn]

The usual, Turkish being dishonest. Who needs enemies when you got fans like this.

[@jahvaughnjones877]

Turkish is right thou

[@chiefnkosi7705]

​@@jahvaughnjones877😂😂you saw hi comparing Harvertz' whole season to Jesus's first season where he exclusively played upfront. He used goals and Havertz was a midfielder for half of in a conversation about who is the better striker. Turkish is a joke. The woman talked better sense here😂

[@moal-shael7580]

We haven't been creating chances at all in the games pre chelsea, as soon as Odegaard comes back, Havertz is denied a goal because of being marginly offside and another goal because Trossard didn't leave the ball. Then in the next game he plays he scores a goal against Sporting. The hate agenda against Havertz is so forced but yes we do need a proper striker, not a technical midfielder that is pushed to become one

[@rojdancam1676]

Nah someone do a mental health check on Turkish, he’s seriously not well.

[@m0d3z91]

As a rival fan, I will say I worry more about Havertz than Jesus. The way Havertz pulls defenses apart off the ball is a huge part of his game. He creates space for Saka, Odegaard and whoever is on the left by his runs. He also has a black belt in the dark arts and getting opponents riled up and flustered.

[@bendavid-cc6og]

Exactly

[@conrodlindsay5463]

Turkish wrong on this. Plus talking about clinical finishing, Havertz converts more of his chances than Jesus, even though neither can be said to be clinical. Neither is Haaland. How many chances does he miss?

[@rodwellchigome7567]

Turkish needs to let others talk. He has his own show ffs

[@MaximusPK]

havertz over jesus any day. he's more clinical compared to jesus and offers more in the attack. jesus may be more technically gifted but that don't mean jack when you're producing nothing when starting

[@tji7046]

Both are right nut Turkish is having a different discussion... On form and who's a bigger goal threat irs Harverts, hes reframed the question to not give Harverts any props.

[@chiefnkosi7705]

Turkish is clearly wrong

[@kherkeem]

You guys are getting it all wrong. Kai is not a striker. He is a scoring midfielder more of a free role kind of guy. Jesus is a striker who isnt doing his job roght at the moment. The reason kai is being upraised more than jesus is coz he is doing a better job at 9 than the 9 we have. He didnt come to be a 9 he came to replace granit but mikel noticed he is better as a free role player than an 8 thus bringing in merino the next season. One of the reasons we beat sporting was the midfield overload with kai dropping back to give the midfield an extra man advantage. Kai is starting because he drops better than any 9s we got

[@luthfan9395]

i agree with you about jesus is striker who is not doing his job because just take a look jesus stats when played a lot at CF position in mancity and in arsenal then you will see he never score more than 14 while the other hand havertz at leverkusen most played at CAM and sometimes at RW but he can score 17 goals in 18/19 at leverkusen havertz at leverkusen similar like bellingham last season both played at CAM but score a lot goals look like SECOND STRIKER (Shadow Sriker) who played as FALSE NINE and drop deeper one thing i did not like that role (havertz as false nine) he is totally shite when against low block, yes i know he can drag defender when drop deeper and give space to player like saka run behind defender which make partey or odegaard can give ball to saka by through pass or long ball because there is space in final third when defender leave his spot because get drag by havertz who drop deeper BUT AT THE SAME TIME when saka get ball from partey or odegaard then saka cannot find finisher in the box because when havertz drop deeper there is many defender around him and behind him so there is no time for havertz back to in box which that happened against inter milan and newcastle the only time that drop deeper concept really work when we play against high line team, for example arsenal vs liverpool last season when we won 3-1 at emirates if you see first goal from saka then you can see how effective drop deeper from havertz because there is no many defender around him (of course there is no many defender around him because liverpool play high line not low block) and he can runs easily between defender and odegaard pass ball to him and he run into final third without marking from defender all that happened because liverpool play high line which mean there is no crowded defender around havertz and behind him that is why you will see havertz totally useless playing as false nine drop deeper against low block like against newcastle & inter milan and many match actually i like arsenal buy elite striker elite finisher who stay in final third and just let our RW, CAM, RB, DM, LCM in right side make some creativity for break the line and break final third then give ball to finisher which that happened when we score in first goal and second goal against sporting cp

[@SocaDonFC]

They’re both below par

[@TheEddie1401]

Turkish showing us how to be wrong but strong. My guy is just arguing

[@johnmuia6709]

Havertz has scored 4 in 11 coz of the formation change after the injuries we've had and different dynamics of each game like the red cards.Turkish be easy man.Not every striker scores in each game

[@jordyradio]

Charlene said Saka deserved a shout in the All time prem 11…trolling or not, that’s a HOWLER of a opinion

[@idowupeter5519]

I don't understand how we can be so negative about our players 😪 😒 🙄.... These guys are wearing our jersey, fighting for the club every time, and someone is here calling them not good enough. Later, you will want the manager / director to sell them for £70M or £100M to other club..... I love AFTV..... However, this debates is uncalled for. If Gabriel Jesus and Kai Havertz are watching this video now, "How would they feel representing Arsenal " This is exactly what Chelsea fans did to Kai Havertz back then... Guys, let's support our players whenever they're down, Pleaseeeee 😊

[@Vandersaarfff]

They all think this is okay

[@SmolenskiPrince]

Listening to Arsenal fans argue about Jesus vs Havertz is so funny. It doesn't matter which soft drink you buy. It still comes in a bottle.

[@FABRlCE]

well replay it. Turkish said they all haven't been good enough, you didn't just figure it out before everyone!

[@Justify2112]

Not as funny as seeing you rage baiting losers in the comment sections every week I can tell you that. Hope we keep you relevant it looks like you need it 💀

[@SmolenskiPrince]

@Justify2112 if my comment is ragebait then I guess you're the fish I caught 🐟 🐠 make sure to reply next week too.

[@Justify2112]

⁠@@SmolenskiPrince Difference is you actually spend time looking for it 🤣🤣 after we’ve won as well. Are you a closeted gooner or do you just have no life?

[@Justify2112]

@@SmolenskiPrinceimpressive loser mentality bro you’re right you’ll get em next time, as if you’d be doing anything else with your life 😭

[@mr.lucien2876]

Getting beaten in an arguement by Charlene is crazy. Its the inyl two options, obviously Havertz is better and you have to play one.

[@ramonortiz6302]

Charlene 1… Turkish 0

[@johnnyd1790]

Jesus is a train reck, but I agree with Turkish 100%. He was my favorite player for a long time after all. The thing is not just Havertz, Jesus is also among our best payed players.

[@CHUKS300]

AFTV are a big factor when it comes to players deciding to come here, who can be arsed with this even when you’re scoring goals lmao

[@DesireSithole-l3c]

Havertz is really good when the whole squad is fit, without Odegaard the chances are limited for every player, Havertz scored plenty of goals when he was moved to the striker position and when Odegaard was fit he scored goals.

[@asifmanaf1934]

Charlene= delusional x100. Never forget. She said on the sky sports fan debate that Saka should be in an ALL TIME premier league 11.

[@mdusibisi]

You guys really throw the word "delusional" around that it's lost all meaning. Saka will one day deserve that spot. And we're talking about Havertz vs Jesus here. Leave your pettiness at the door.

[@kami_vega]

​@@mdusibisione day. therefore not this day or anytime soon. so it's delusion 👍

[@asifmanaf1934]

@@moal-shael7580he’s nowhere near. He’s won nothing. To even be in the conversation of best right winger in prem history you need multiple major honors in my opinion

[@ludovicmf5072]

cant see anything wrong with it

[@ledangkhoa3108]

@@mdusibisihahahahhha spoken like a true Arsenal fan.

[@kopxpert]

How are u saying neither Havertz nor Jesus is good enough? Arsenal fans are delusional & over-estimating the club. U ain't Barca or RM man

[@suiyvenelvis]

An argument for Arsenal fans and rivals are in for it. Go use ur own platforms to discuss ur players mate

[@kopxpert]

@@suiyvenelvis this came up on my algorithm and the title interest me and got me curious about what Arsenal fans think of these two. Never thought someone would say these established players not good enough for the club. Btw I bet this channel welcome views from outside the club. More views = better for the channel. Agree?

[@Darren_Martin]

​@@kopxpert They are ABSOLUTELY NOT GOOD ENOUGH! They're trash! Neither are scoring goals in the hard matches when we are either level or losing. Jesus is not scoring PERIOD! They both need to be replaced by a quality, clinical striker and backup!

[@kopxpert]

@@Darren_Martin Sure, they are not good enough for the likes of RM or Barca

[@trinigooner8865]

​@@kopxpert Arsenal FC is quite literally the third largest club in English football!...the ONLY club to go unbeaten over an entire season as well!...wipe your mouth from all that $hit you're talking mate... nobody said we're the biggest club in the world, but to act as if Arsenal is not a massive club is pure 🤡 behavior...here YOU are, talking about an allegedly "small" club, I safely guarantee you I've never been on the site of whatever club you support

[@ankushvp1994]

What turkish is saying about us needing a stirker right. But i dont understand why hes mixing that with Havertz vs Jesus. He even agrees that Havertz has been better for us, but talks about how both aren't up to standard to justify Jesus starting over Havertz. That makes no sense.

[@perezteejay2945]

It's just his bias speaking, objectivity is far from him.

[@colincamping3547]

Turkish the reason it’s negative is because we all thought Havertz couldn’t be anything and then we watched how playing the 9 unlocked a a 6ft 4 German center forward who scores goals, takes the ball down well and helps the build up.

[@adeyinkaadebiyi2471]

When are we going to understand what Arteta is doing? 2 seasons ago, we started the season explosive and we burnt out towards the end, last season we started with controlling games and became explosive in January. That was why we could push for the title. This season, we started almost similar to last season, if not for the crazy officiating, we would be closer to Liverpool. However, with better depth and good rotation this season, we can push without being burnt. We are rotating our midfield and attack to keep them fresh while keeping our spine: Raya, Gabby, Saliba, Partey, Saka, Odeguard. I believe we will achieve something when these guys are on the pitch.

[@rhj107]

Not only was he getting goals, but his link-up play and dribbling was elite, he got Xhaka and Martinelli firing during that time

[@starcusmcr3964]

That was all xhaka lol.

[@lifeafter40plus]

Turkish will hate Havertz no matter what!

[@philisob3477]

Turkish is always to the point no sugarcoating issues...

[@johnadu-yeboah4906]

Harvertz best swason is jackson's worst season last year jackson scored 14 goals and harvertz is being talked up

[@juventisa23]

Neither clinical but Havertz is getting and giving more than Jesus these days.

[@nassirsayid2765]

Thing is we have 2 st 1 is doing more than the other and it’s clear he’s scores more but u still don’t give him his props is crazy but still compare them both to players that are farr better is wild

[@DarthDovaxX]

If we dont sign a top striker this summer we arent serious enough

[@PaulMarks-ci4ji]

Turkish cannot let the Havertz thing go!!!

[@hamzashazad1970]

Turkish isn't exactly wrong tho... We don't actually have a clinical striker like gyokeres or halaand

[@permabulkenjoyer2002]

There is not a significant difference between how clinical they are. However, what Charlene is not including is that, Jesus allows the team to score more goals as a collective due to him being a more fluid and link up type of player. If Havertz doesnt finish off his chances, he literally contributes with 0. Jesus can miss his chances, but still contribute to the team.

[@DIALSQUARE1]

Turkish is never having Havertz no matter what he does

[@pires908]

Agree with Turkish we need a new striker but think he is under rating Havertz as a player, all round he is very good.

[@Jase-qo4xt]

Havertz scored in 7 consecutive home games at the start of the season. Hes involved in the build up and the finish of most attacks. Starts and scores for Germany, this isnt a debate, Havertz is clear of Jesus

[@trentmadagua215]

Imagine having a striker that everyone fan at the club agrees doesn't score goals...a striker....that's Gabriel Jesus.

[@MrSupasheva]

Anytile Turkish goes on these rants i want to buy him a beer. Bro needs to relaaaaaaaax

[@DavidSkarsvag]

Come on now, Haverts have not been that bad. BUT, if we want to win any of the big trophies, we have to get a 18-20+ goals a season striker.

[@ToxicMuscularity.]

Haverts scored 4 in 11 because he played 4 games as a striker, you forgot he moved to replace our captain in the other 7 games that he didn't score, basically we struggled to score a single goal without Kai up top, stop hating for the sake of hating.

[@vokabage]

""Jesus is a much better footballer than Havertz, now I'm not saying that one is better than the other because they both lack..."

[@MphoMogatusi]

There was no need for this debate, it's all about utility and Havertz leads.

[@arientshole114]

What Turkish gets wrong is that if we had Haaland in the last 7 games instead of Havertz. Haaland still wouldn't have scored. I still dont get how someone this old still does not understand football. No matter how good you are as a striker, if you dont havebgood supply, you dont score, how is that difficult to unserstand

[@pgvo1119]

this little man got so emotional when i called him out yet doesn’t call others out here. Ever wonder why many others say the same thing? cause you’re talking rubbish. Using an ACL injury as an excuse over a year later lmao what a terrible agenda.

[@maximusorbis2548]

Turkish hating agenda is non stop. Arsenal could win the league and he’d find something to complain about haha

[@rojdancam1676]

Probably goal difference

[@kami_vega]

well i guess we wont find out because we ain't winning no league 💀 give praise where it's due but a couple good performances and guys like you have memory loss! when we need havertz the most at the crunch end of the season he's not there. we still need a striker but continue living in fairy land see you at the end of the season when we go trophyless again

[@DocYAYAYA]

Arsenal wont win the league because of the issue they are talking about and thats his problem... use your brain and listen to what hes saying

[@wrightyafc]

Wtf is Turkish talking about?

[@Tevinmwangi]

Its deeper if you know you know The Big Six fans would know

[@Meshi135]

Mans taking it like we saying is number 1 option for life. Havertz scored 8 goals this season, Jesus has 1

[@SomeRandomBod]

Havertz’s footy intelligence & ability to make everyone better trumps Jesus’s eye catching skills. But yes a new striker is needed, we need a sledgehammer as well as scalpels

[@simonpaul9654]

Last year he was on about his wages and now he’s trying to gaslight us that there isn’t much between the 2. One’s got 13 goals for the year in the League, one’s got 4. Yes we get it, he used to play for Chelsea and you don’t like him

[@tylerjenkins9325]

cant believe im watching turkish get bodied by charlene 😂😂😂😂

[@salem.alnafea1985]

Turkish is 100% right 👍 neither of them is good enough

[@jidgichuki1091]

We're doing those two a favour by paying them every week.

[@Canadiangooner1995]

Charlene tried saying saka should be considered for greatest prem 11 lol how can anyone take her opinions seriously after that 😂- coming from an arsenal fan

[@HR-313]

Turkish is a real one and doesn't accept mediocrisy for arsenal. The standards of charlene and the others are on the floor. The moment we sign a killer striker you all will forget about havertz

[@terryhoskin3739]

The same way Turkish feels about havertz I feel about Jesus… It’s just personal preference. For me havertz (when played up top and not in midfield) sticks to his job stays central, holds up play and makes runs into the box. Jesus in my eyes gets sucked into play on the wings, skins folks then will create a chance but we’ve got no one in the penalty area to capitalise because he’s out of position.

[@JonnieBlaze411]

Okay vs Piss poor = Havertz vs Jesus . We need a proper striker as both are no where near good enough.

[@l...m9415]

Big up Charlene, Turkish agenda is too much. Hes just ignoring the fact Havertz was playing out of position when Odegaard was out.

[@ayoshadrach5605]

Turkish just hates Havertz, personally I feel more confident with Havertz than Jesus

[@pinkacademy5232]

Both not good enough, but 1 goal in 26 games is nuts, Jesus is the better football player easy but Havertz is more effective at this point and is more likely to score, I agree with her on this one

[@rangho10]

This guy and his havertz agenda man. If you look at at all the top strikers in 2024, their np goals in 2024 havertz and haaland are tied at 0.76 goals per game as a striker (19/25 & 13/17). Havertz also has the most assists of any striker. Every other too striker is scoring 10-14 np goals only (watkins is 16) over 24/25 games. And no one does the oop work that havertz does. This guy is one of the best strikers in the league, even after playing 3 games this season as a human pinball post and half the games as a deep second striker. People need stop having their agendas cover their inherent bias and open their eyes

[@slowtalker8583]

I agree with Charlene. Turkish is in his feelings. Havertz is more of a goal threat than Jesus.

[@uhtredlastkingdom9325]

I can't believe how people in the comments disagree with turkish, because it's obvious that Havertz isn't good enough, probably he's a 60 million down the drain

[@katumbakd8976]

Turkish stop thinking about strikers that aren't here; we have havertz now deal with that

[@alexgreen1194]

Turkish is so negative for a fan. Havertz been took our #9 spot with odegaard injury. He has a record of 21 goal involvements in 27/8 games as a forward. Jesus is mustard but too injury prone unfortunately. Certain teams he can ball out as he floats around from the 9 position. Kai off the ball, aerial duels, bringing long balls down and linking up with the attackers is great for us. Until someone can come in and do everything and more Havertz starts.

[@abdirahimulusow6959]

Turkish is absolutely right. Jesus was amazing in our first season, has dropped form since knee injury. Both not very clinical but the difference is marginal. This coming from massive harvetz fan

[@liamwade7119]

We all have that one person whom we dont like despite not crossing our path in any way King Kai is the one for Turkish😅😅😅he just doesnt like him and has no logic behind it

[@briangreenidge8191]

Watch the Forest Game in the second half when Jesus was passed the ball, the defender took it off him on the right wing and Jesus had a sulk and refused to try and track back and win back possession. Attitude and desire is key to success and Jesus does not have it.

[@CharlieHammondx]

I would just respect Turkish more if he just said he don’t like Havertz because he came from Chelsea. This whole Havertz hate thing is getting very boring. This was all said, then we scored 5 goals, and the ‘killer’ he wants got absolutely pocketed. Football is more than just scoring goals now. Watch now he’s up top and Odegaard back, he’s gonna score tonnes again, same as second half last season.

[@mrtomas0990]

Was it a mass debate?

[@ianthepreneur]

Let's sign Turkish to play centre forward then.

[@KondwelaniBanda-hj4wf]

Haverts is better than jesus period... Availability is the best ability one can have.... There is no way you walk into a company and say employee of the month is john even though he hasn't been showing up for work because he broke his leg and has not worked an entire month 😂😂 really

[@InstitutionalJ]

Havertz from a pure generating of football perspective has taken us back. He’s trash in possession and never looks a threat, Jesus is more likely to create a chance for the team. He’s not clinical but look at us against Forrest with him in the team. Kai isn’t capable of linking up play like that he’s too slow of a thinker.

[@bt999-w3w]

Both of them aren't good enough, no big club in Europe will have any of them lol

[@kingsleyozigbu1609]

Harvertz is a liability in a team . . Harvertz creates nothing and contributes nothing. His inefficiency is the reason why arsenal is losing fluidity

[@mass_oak]

Turkish is the only logical fan

[@theomatthew5286]

Nuff respect to Turkish but sometimes he's just too absolute with some of his assessments. On balance, not everything is either one polar end of a spectrum or the other but somewhat closer to the middle, especially when any subconscious bias has been taken out of the equation.

[@adenikinjuadetunjiemmanuel6125]

Turkish is right and wrong, wrong in the sense that he is underrating havartz a lot but right because at the end of the day we need a better striker than havartz.. havartz definitely surpassed our expectations has been performing really well but we just need a better individual in that position it’s has simple as that… as we loved ramsdale, we didn’t feel that we should change but because we felt he was alright but yeah we realized we needed a better goalkeeper… so Turkish didn’t fully rightly made his point excellently but I perfectly understand his point… His frustration of how he doesn’t want havartz in the starting 11 is making him a bit more emotional and being a little bit harsh on the lad

[@Kochieng_felix]

Can't wait for arsenal to sign isak and not gokores and start hating on isak

[@saurabhahlawat425]

Havertz - 8 goals this season Jesus best season for us - 11 goals. Is this guy daft?

[@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630]

Seriously have to big up Turkish here for calling out the sheep in this fanbase on this one. Charlene sounding like she just voiced the opinion of the majority. Jesus is a great player but the fanbase turned on him end of the 22/23 season, there's no way back for him now in their eyes.

[@trinigooner8865]

Mate... there's "no way back fo him" because EVERYTIME he's set foot on the pitch he's been anonymous and or gash! Lol...stop fooling yourself

[@ghostoftheyoutubefuture2630]

​@@trinigooner8865 Jesus before the ACL was better than ANY Havertz we've seen at Arsenal. FACTS. You armchair experts don't have a clue lol..... . how many times has Jesus even stepped on the pitch let alone started? You're clearly the one fooling yourself now behave ffs. Havertz scored 5 in 12. Talk about that.

[@corneliusodoo7183]

Charlene has better football knowledge than the three men and especially Turkish who is always critical of Havertz. How do you compare Jesus and Havertz surely the former is much better technically creating and reliable period

[@ndabosehemmanuelngocho6972]

We are talking about Jesus and Havertz in Arsenal. This guy Turkish is just a hater and delusional. How can he be talking about Jesus' stats in Man City? What has he smoked? Just pure hate. Havertz has been good in Arsenal than all his time in Chelsea

[@Boy10Dio]

you can't still be trying to sell us on jesus, he's rubbish.

[@BourbonBiscuit.]

Jesus has done nothing for the club since he arrived, Havertz has clutched plenty.

[@doctoraugustuskwembe]

There is no debate Jesus 1 goal in 32 games enough said he's awful and needs to be binned in January Jesus is allergic to goals

[@Fmdvot]

Jesus slows down our tempo and his tricks come off only half of the time

[@charlieparker7159]

Neither is leading you to a PL title

[@riiii777]

Turkish just a hater. Wouldn’t be surprised if this man was once a tottenham fan.

[@frankym8621]

Turkish is a reminder why I don't watch AFTV, the delusion and non objective bias is exactly what's wrong with the Arsenal Fan base. Bro doesn't even know what he's saying, Kai Harvertz will give you results more than Jesus. The results are not tangible goals, but in build up play Havertz is critical to this team than Jesus has ever been

[@rajaysmith2626]

She doesn’t have a clue about football