Turning a Tube Bender Die on the Lathe

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The Impossible Machine

7 жыл бұрын

I recently built a tube bender which required some custom dies, so I searched around and found a neat way to make them on a lathe. Here is the result and how the fabrication process works.

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@adambergendorff2702
@adambergendorff2702 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, best one I've seen on making your own dies!!
@johnbower
@johnbower 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent, you know exactly what you are doing, and using home made tooling.
@olusabaolukayode9191
@olusabaolukayode9191 4 жыл бұрын
Great and cool method. Thank you for your painstaking work more grease to your elbow and more wisdom always.
@valveman12
@valveman12 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea James!👍
@h4z4rd42
@h4z4rd42 6 жыл бұрын
Nice job, thanks for sharing.
@faizmohd2197
@faizmohd2197 4 жыл бұрын
...,,
@dieterbuchner3420
@dieterbuchner3420 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. Now i know to make my pulley.
@onehot57
@onehot57 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job James!
@manoharsagunthalla9215
@manoharsagunthalla9215 5 жыл бұрын
it"s wonderful work ! thank you very much
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant...cheers from the USA, Paul
@ledsalv1
@ledsalv1 6 жыл бұрын
Seu trabalho é muito bom, obrigado por compartilhar . Nice job!!!
@hart1mart
@hart1mart 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work great job, all the best from Birmingham uk 👍
@prince-rc5pv
@prince-rc5pv 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea
@Stevensherah
@Stevensherah 4 жыл бұрын
Wooooow that lathe set up is Legit
@machiningbasics1729
@machiningbasics1729 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Very impressive
@wademaharg5147
@wademaharg5147 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant my man that's awesome
@punitsciencemodelsciencemo479
@punitsciencemodelsciencemo479 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice job thanks for this trick
@NickthaGeek
@NickthaGeek 5 жыл бұрын
Got skills mate.
@chitharanjenkg7706
@chitharanjenkg7706 6 жыл бұрын
my humble suggestion about the procedure of this work,if firstly make a "v"groove near to required dimension with the compound rest ,and make a rough shape radius groove using a radius tool, finally finished that the job with the tool you can used in this video showing .it may reduce your physical effort and get more speed to finish your job.any way it is very great effort you did.👍
@MrSuperchargeron
@MrSuperchargeron 5 жыл бұрын
Good job man!! 👍
@watahyahknow
@watahyahknow 6 жыл бұрын
seen someone use a adjustable holle cutter (for a mill ) for sumtin like this , there adjustable so you can make the radius any size you like using the same tool
@ARIFINLATHE
@ARIFINLATHE 3 жыл бұрын
Your ideas brilliant..amazing...👍👍👍
@chandrabhushan7589
@chandrabhushan7589 6 жыл бұрын
Nice thought
@dr.mahmoudelsayed3203
@dr.mahmoudelsayed3203 5 жыл бұрын
excellent job
@mohammadaneessaifi8680
@mohammadaneessaifi8680 3 жыл бұрын
Great job sir......I like it..... continue to this job God bless you
@sheparin
@sheparin 6 жыл бұрын
James very good
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi 6 жыл бұрын
great job!!
@sinhlee9667
@sinhlee9667 7 жыл бұрын
i think you turning good.thank you very good
@sonysamrat3979
@sonysamrat3979 6 жыл бұрын
Great job sir ji
@mahmoudiabdelmoumin6746
@mahmoudiabdelmoumin6746 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@elise0bautista3
@elise0bautista3 6 жыл бұрын
Nice homemade one it's the same toolbit holder l made more than 20 yrs. ago.
@nelsonrodil3387
@nelsonrodil3387 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing....
@gordonagent7037
@gordonagent7037 6 жыл бұрын
Great job James, exactly what I was needing to know. Tell me were you using 4140 for the die?
@alvoradametalica
@alvoradametalica 5 жыл бұрын
ótima solução para um trabalho bem difícil , de ser executado , parabéns!!!!
@davidgreen2442
@davidgreen2442 7 жыл бұрын
excellent
@mrmomjoe8019
@mrmomjoe8019 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@beachboardfan9544
@beachboardfan9544 7 жыл бұрын
What type of steel did you use?
@javicarro5542
@javicarro5542 4 жыл бұрын
exelente ! saludos desde argentina
@TrailBusterBrute1
@TrailBusterBrute1 7 жыл бұрын
Other than the terrible WAAAHHHH noise of your lathe in my headphones, this is fantastic! Now I need to try this. So, I need to make a jig for my crappy Atlas and 2; make sure my steel supplier doesn't screw me for the blanks! Thanks for the video.
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sorry, it's quite a noisy motor, I took off the old one and replaced it with a larger one which is much louder than it was standard. Some metal suppliers will chop short lengths (2" minimum or so) off a large diameter round bar for parts like this.
@gutotecnico
@gutotecnico 7 жыл бұрын
Friend, have you modified the lathe holder or is it original? I liked the way the tool is stuck.
@leonardoscarficcia1486
@leonardoscarficcia1486 3 жыл бұрын
Exelente forma de definir una tarea!! Probaré!
@Digital_pardesi
@Digital_pardesi 5 жыл бұрын
Good work Good Job nice think
@jorgecortes2687
@jorgecortes2687 4 жыл бұрын
hello ... very good job you make it easy to do it ..... it looked dangerous when you pass the sandpaper and you have long sleeves ..... greetings
@ARIFINLATHE
@ARIFINLATHE 4 жыл бұрын
Good job very good..from indonesia
@carlosarturopicoaraque8336
@carlosarturopicoaraque8336 3 жыл бұрын
Me gusto su metodo Gracias
@robliguori
@robliguori 4 жыл бұрын
How much would you charge to make the same die but for 1.25" steel tubing?
@mychannelmychennel1749
@mychannelmychennel1749 6 жыл бұрын
Nice
@johna2076
@johna2076 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice James. I notice you made dies for different tubing diameters. Did you end up making different sized insert holders and extra posts to manage the different diameters? If the insert holder could slide back and forth and be adjustable (kind of like those lantern style lathe tool holders) would the rigidity be a concern? Thanks, nice video.
@johna2076
@johna2076 7 жыл бұрын
And I've love to see more of your tube bender and the follow die you may have made.
@toingyo7667
@toingyo7667 4 жыл бұрын
How did you get the blank piece? I mean is it there a rod 250 mm díameter? Soldered seversl pieces or how did you do it?
@rubenvalencia7054
@rubenvalencia7054 3 жыл бұрын
Genial desconosia ese metodo gracias
@dr.mahmoudelsayed3203
@dr.mahmoudelsayed3203 5 жыл бұрын
i think use thread tip make a good radius
@sheparin
@sheparin 6 жыл бұрын
What is the actual time you used to finish the job?
@athrunzala5337
@athrunzala5337 4 жыл бұрын
what type of steel is the die made from?
@drby1414
@drby1414 7 жыл бұрын
how much would you charge to make a 1 1/2 die ?
@Z750Kawasaki
@Z750Kawasaki 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know how many mm diameter of this you made need tube 63.5mm?
@HermanOtto-wr2nn
@HermanOtto-wr2nn 6 жыл бұрын
Witam Kolegę podoba mi się pomysł świetny pozdrawiam
@adamsonpilotos6644
@adamsonpilotos6644 6 жыл бұрын
Nice...
@toingyo7667
@toingyo7667 5 жыл бұрын
Where was the raw material taken from?
@mr.ranyhomemade2466
@mr.ranyhomemade2466 3 жыл бұрын
I really love show did you have have video bout tube die how to make it
@skyrim4713
@skyrim4713 5 жыл бұрын
How much would it cost?
@damiansgaragebuilds7663
@damiansgaragebuilds7663 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting over a month to get one from JD Square
@malandro2023
@malandro2023 4 жыл бұрын
What's the stock composition?
@raymundoortiz7269
@raymundoortiz7269 4 жыл бұрын
Which is the relationship between the tube diameter and the diameter of the Die ???
@kellybrown1860
@kellybrown1860 Жыл бұрын
great work but what about the following die can you show making it thanks
@petermarsh4993
@petermarsh4993 7 жыл бұрын
Nice work James. I was just in a shop yesterday getting a demonstration of a tube bender at work and my immediate thought was how to make my own dies for different sized materials and different finished curvatures. I will also need to make straight followers and there was your KZbin - half the answer waiting there for me. Well done. The material you used, was it cast iron? Now the next step, making the follower which has a straight section with the matching curve may be a challenge. I was thinking of holding the work end on in a vice and machining on the mill with a boring bar and slowly working outwards with the diameter set in a similar way to how your cutting head ran on the lathe. Any thoughts?
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Hi, the steel is EN3B. I've been thinking about a straight follower myself, my plan was to use a ball end mill of the same size as the tube done horizontally on a mill, possibly moving side to side a little at the end to get a slightly larger radius. I'm sure a boring bar would work too.
@petermarsh4993
@petermarsh4993 7 жыл бұрын
James, soon I will be lucky enough to collect a second hand tool and cutter grinder from a die making machine factory that was happy to part with one for a good price. The best thing about this is that I will also be able to learn from the staff there how to make stuff on this useful tool. Maybe I could shape a tool that could go on the milling machine that would cut the curve quickly, like a large format ball end mill. Rough it out with a boring bar and finish with the super-sized ball end cutter. I also picked up some super sized drill bits and reamers from a second hand machine shop that is going into liquidation. All I need is an 1-7/16" drill bit and 1-1/2" reamer and slice the end result down the middle and the job would be done quickly. Now all I need is a huge drill press that has a morse 5 or 6 taper head. Not sure if they come that big but that I cannot justify. It never ends. However, today I picked up my markup table that was surface ground across the full width {900mm} with what looked like 2/3rds of the width of the slash grinder disc. The finish is beautiful and smooth. This factory has huge machines. Makes mine look tiny by comparison.
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're getting there! Good luck
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 7 жыл бұрын
Peter Marsh, check with tool supply shops they may have suitable adaptors that can fit in a smaller MT and take that particular MT
@valveman12
@valveman12 7 жыл бұрын
That is brilliant how you are making the Dies. Do you need to harden them before using them?
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel 7 жыл бұрын
Hi. I haven't hardened them yet. They are on the machine making parts. At some point I will make some more and then get those ones hardened.
@douglasalan7786
@douglasalan7786 7 жыл бұрын
That steel is basically SAE 1020. You wont get any hardness to it. See if you can find someone who does industrial hard chrome single step. About .0100 mm.or .0005 inch. It doesn't need to be hammer hard or thick. Just slippery hard if that makes sense.Especially with stainless pipe. It'll gall like hell on plain steel or another piece of stailess but slide right over hard chrome or that Delron some dies are made with
@sumithnishantha1375
@sumithnishantha1375 6 жыл бұрын
valveman12
@ahmadsupono8102
@ahmadsupono8102 2 жыл бұрын
Good 👍👍
@kyleboudreau7784
@kyleboudreau7784 7 жыл бұрын
How did the die work? I was under the assumption that the dies were not a perfect radius. I thought more side clearance that .010 was needed .
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel 7 жыл бұрын
The dies I made create a circular channel for the tubes, I went with 0.010 clearance which is 1% of the tube diameter and also the tolerance the tubes are made to. They work just fine.
@richardmorton4762
@richardmorton4762 7 жыл бұрын
He sounds like Brian May
@octavosantana1125
@octavosantana1125 2 жыл бұрын
Exelent
@TinShackVideos
@TinShackVideos 6 жыл бұрын
How did you harden it?
@dingdong7265
@dingdong7265 2 жыл бұрын
by looking at dirty pictures
@luisnascimento4746
@luisnascimento4746 5 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@Coolhand99au
@Coolhand99au 4 жыл бұрын
Noice !
@hossienakbarshahi9403
@hossienakbarshahi9403 5 жыл бұрын
دمتگرم اوستا
@edwardmagnayon621
@edwardmagnayon621 3 жыл бұрын
Can i order you sir, stainlees pipe bender.?
@salvadormendez9867
@salvadormendez9867 5 жыл бұрын
Mucha velocidad.
@volodimirbatkovic2972
@volodimirbatkovic2972 6 жыл бұрын
Молодець!
@user-re2mq3px2n
@user-re2mq3px2n 5 жыл бұрын
Классно. 👍
@birchsgarage8742
@birchsgarage8742 7 жыл бұрын
DONT EVER GRAB SWARF WITH A BARE HAND WITH THE LATHE RUNNING!!!!!!!!! if it grabs it it will take the skin off you finger like a glove.
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel 7 жыл бұрын
VERY good piece of advise. Some of the chips of this part are long and razor sharp. I hope I didn't do this here without realizing, I do have some pliers to hand I was using which make an appearance here and there.
@pyromaniac354
@pyromaniac354 6 жыл бұрын
Yep.Done that before,will never do it again lol.
@kundankumar6957
@kundankumar6957 4 жыл бұрын
giroo ji aap kaise banaye ho is tool k
@jasn5754
@jasn5754 7 жыл бұрын
Would it be an idea to increase rpm to compensate for large diameter (with carbide insert). Maybe get better chips and be quicker? Any pros know the answer?
@gabbermaikel
@gabbermaikel 6 жыл бұрын
he talked about it going 600ft/min. That would be about the right speed for any steel that you can harden or 4140 and 4150. For just mild steel it would be a little on the low tho.
@MissByern
@MissByern 6 жыл бұрын
Where did you get 50 or 54mm plate, may i ask!!!
@miguelangellepizgarcia9144
@miguelangellepizgarcia9144 6 жыл бұрын
le e mandando un correo para una maquina de tubo 2x6 rectangular ..
@iftikharali1825
@iftikharali1825 6 жыл бұрын
It's nice but how can make inside same ??
@rickybulao5112
@rickybulao5112 2 жыл бұрын
Terbaik 👍
@dargoyta
@dargoyta 5 жыл бұрын
It was necessary to make at first a flute for simplification!
@RoberioRoberioRoberio
@RoberioRoberioRoberio Жыл бұрын
pq q o som tá em estéreo e só tá saindo de um lado?
@markl2761
@markl2761 6 жыл бұрын
No audio
@ellevazenodro7730
@ellevazenodro7730 5 жыл бұрын
Safety first, you're wearing a long sleeve..
@xx1393
@xx1393 5 жыл бұрын
Qué habras demora 2 días
@user-wp7xp4bq3n
@user-wp7xp4bq3n 6 жыл бұрын
علاء الحداد
@amirabbasi8980
@amirabbasi8980 3 жыл бұрын
بسیار الی
@axa.axa.
@axa.axa. 2 жыл бұрын
why worry about centering the cut, just face it after...
@abubakarmehar1211
@abubakarmehar1211 6 жыл бұрын
Abubakermaher
@keliweisgerber3896
@keliweisgerber3896 6 жыл бұрын
You should go to woodprix if you'd like to make it yourself mate.
@maqsoodahmed1401
@maqsoodahmed1401 6 жыл бұрын
shak
@nileshvishwakarma3017
@nileshvishwakarma3017 3 жыл бұрын
Nice sir please check my video on diameter radius
@maqsoodahmed1401
@maqsoodahmed1401 6 жыл бұрын
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@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller 7 жыл бұрын
That lathe is sold in the US as a Smithy & various knock offs with a mill head, total crap, poorly engineered & worse manufacturing . Do you have some kind of backgear? Mine did not & while you could swing 12" you couldn't turn more than 2-3 because the speed was too high unless you bought their uber expensive planetary reduction sheave.
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel
@TheImpossibleMachineChannel 7 жыл бұрын
£300 quid I paid, amazing what you can do with it if you're patient. Usually very patient... 180rpm is the slowest you can go with the standard belts on mine, carbide tooling at this radius is fine.
@thomasjbucknerable
@thomasjbucknerable 6 жыл бұрын
I've got one of the smithy 1340s and it works really well for home hobby use. But it does have some pretty big shortcomings and limitations.
@joerecio7647
@joerecio7647 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry friend, your audio is very poor.
@scrappydogfinance8434
@scrappydogfinance8434 7 жыл бұрын
you sound weak and about to cry or run away?
He sees meat everywhere 😄🥩
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