Turns Around a Point

Turns around a point are one of the first maneuvers every pilot must master in order to understand the effects of wind on the airplane in flight. In this video, we teach the specific techniques and procedures required to successfully perform the maneuver.
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[@archerpiperii2690]

Here is how I learned what bank angle to use: In a 172, from the left, pilot's seat looking down the wing, you want to keep your point in the middle of the wing. If your point starts drifting back toward the trailing edge, steepen your bank and hold that steeper bank until the point moves back toward the middle of the wing. If the point starts moving forward toward the leading edge, shallow out your bank and hold that shallower bank until the point moves back toward the middle of the wing. To put it another way with ^ as your point and ========== looking down the wing: ========== = hold a standard rate turn --------^--------- ========== = hold a steeper turn ^------------------ ========== = hold a shallower turn -----------------^ Hope this helps.

[@lechstryzewski9350]

GREAT tip !!!!!!

[@Dickandbaus]

You just helped many student pilots..bless you

[@dioni81]

Thank you man

[@dstroma]

As discussed in the video, crabbing is necessary and as such it is not possible to keep the point in the middle of the wing.

[@archerpiperii2690]

@@dstroma Try it the way I describe without the crabbing - you'll find that crabbing is not necessary.

[@dennis771]

This is what me and my instructor are doing rightnow...my first time was yesterday

[@loooony92]

These videos are incredible. Thank you.

[@outwiththem]

BS..

[@Sifo_Dyas]

The graphics on these videos are so clear.

[@nicholauscurphey3925]

You should probably show the flight controls doing their thing too.

[@slehar]

There is a WHOLE NOTHER alternative explanation that is more intuitive: In a no-wind condition, turn so that your wing remains on the pivot point. If you allow the point to fall back behind your wing, (fly straight for a second or two) and keep it there, you will be spiraling outward from the point. If you pull tighter and get the wing behind the point, you will be spiraling inward toward the point. [The difference is that we are judging "crab angle" by the wing with reference to the pivot point] In wind, spiral outward upwind, spiral inward downwind. That simple!

[@HorizonSpeed26]

of coars in a wind-less situation you will do a constant bank right?

[@davidroberts1852]

Yes

[@evry1sfriend619]

4:52 are those dinosaurs in the pond?

[@ERAUSpecialVFR]

🤫

[@calebdidomenico8487]

It’s the Loch Ness Monster

[@jollylawyer9999]

Lol I notice it too

[@shawnsmith1865]

FANTASTIC VIDEO!!!!

[@tomsmith8781]

been there... did that! ;)

[@alirezaghaderi]

06:10 isn't it wrong? at upwind exactly abeam the point is the most shallow bank angle..not the steepest

[@CFITOMAHAWK2]

The are FOS fake GRM experts..

[@Stumpchunkman226]

I noticed that too.

[@hunterfagan6272]

Why do you have to have to join in the downwind?

[@Creeperownr]

Because the ACS says so lol

[@SRRC245]

Skoz Hahahahaha

[@willymakeit5172]

Maintenance Renegade hi, now that’s the most reasonable answer I’ve heard in a while.

[@outwiththem]

FAA Bullshit. This maneuver should be started with the easiest bank angle. Not the most demanding, dangerous and difficult section. Its BS. I taught them starting HEADWIND.

[@CFITOMAHAWK2]

@@outwiththem They are brainless when doing GRM. FAA burrocrats demanding only Mild Maneuvering GRM. Then they crash doing Hard GRM.

[@bafee6496]

Appreciate

[@erinmason9554]

fantastic video, thx!

[@TKBTKB1122]

2:14 could that cause a skid?

[@badgerfishinski6857]

at 1000' AGL....whats a good distance from the point?

[@believeachieve2847]

1:32 doesnt show dw heading, the wind is going across. Great vid regardless

[@believeachieve2847]

The wind sock doesnt makes sense in the animation

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

Why the dog face? They are easy to do. Try a flyover the spot with a strong tailwind. Lest see that. Atailwind alignment flyover and turn over the point.

[@veryhighfrequency4501]

beautifull voice

[@sewcrazed6331]

Left wing down and right rudder to crab away from reference point sounds like uncoordinated flight.

[@DavidNewmon]

She didn't say to use the rudder to crab. Just bank more or less and watch your distance to the reference point if it's getting closer, reduce bank, if it's getting farther away increase bank. If it's moving forward from the wingtip, reduce bank, if it's moving backwards from the wingtip, increase bank. If it's some combination of these then you might be too close or too far away to do it correctly. Airlines crab during landing in a cross wind until the very end. They do this to maintain coordinated flight for as long as possible.

[@augustogonzalez3103]

Indeed. Pointing the nose outside the turn is literally the definition of uncoordinated flight.

[@outwiththem]

GRM is practiced for observation flights of an object on ground. Why using 120 mph for it. That is BS due you wont feel the wind at such speed. Also why so high?? . This is Wimpy GRM. Not realistic. Then when an already pilot have to do an observation flight with loaded airplane with friends or family, at say 600 agl and slower speed like Vfinal real needed for that flight, Realistic GRM. He will be drifted and even stall and fail in front of his friends that are paying for the flight. This is BS GRM too high, too fast and no wind at all. BS GRM training is a killer too., due so many stalls on GRM.

[@CFITOMAHAWK2]

So much bologni. too fast, too high, no flyover, weak winds GRM = Fake GRM.

[@гольф2бравобраво]

Спасибо

[@FernandoRodriguez-du9vo]

hi nice video, can you tell me, what program do you use for your videos?

[@TJ-uj5hf]

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