Turns Out The Most BOOSTED Grandmaster Player Was CHEATING in Overwatch 2

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[@daisyksx]

the fact they're bad even with cheats and also the fact they made it to gm without the cheats being detected is insane...

[@blakey9869]

Probably a bought account, no way this guy climbed to gm1

[@jordanplanas176]

Maybe the fact that they die so much makes the anti cheat confused.

[@daisyksx]

@@blakey9869 i fucking hope so lmao

[@oliverbs0417]

@@jordanplanas176and he never kills anyone really or often so nobody notices

[@kennethvalentine8901]

​@@blakey9869Was bout to say most of the time they don't climb they start there

[@darko-hexar]

I am dearly hoping that this guy picks a new hobby, because hot DAMN someone who buys cheats and still plays like a week-old plate of nachos is not cut out for this 😭

[@erikdayne5429]

Can’t buy game sense 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Oden41785]

That’s an insult to nachos

[@MidorixAsuka]

I just love this. They paid for a cheat for a free-to-play game. 😭😂🤣

[@120mmsmoothbore2]

​@@MidorixAsuka That's where most cheaters are. They don't have to rebuy the game on a new account when they get banned.

[@grog1035]

8:37 thank you for sticking out for us gold 5s its not easy being bad at the game

[@navviil3ra]

LMFAOOO

[@DeathsAvarice]

Even silver players are better than this guy lmao. It's so bad.

[@-aku2805]

@@DeathsAvarice yeah, some people who have never experienced the lower ranks think they're all dogshit like this but gold players usually are decent at one aspect of the game, like maybe one has dog gamesense and positioning but can hit his shots, one might not have the aim but makes up for it with positioning and so on. this guy is the worst of the worst at ALL aspects of the game. that's what makes him bronze (probably bronze 5, as my bronze 3 dps friend isn't even close to being this bad)

[@damon6086]

I've seen bronze players better than this person.

[@Djurfarma]

Gold 5 here.. I could actually not argue with him from my perspective. So many times i've looked at my hand and wonder what kind of shit i've done in my previous life to deserve such a aimless, worthless hand.. I know where all the players are at all time, i know their strat from the moment i see them. I know their dance pattern (right+left to juke the aim) but my hand is 1 second behind.

[@javierabril242]

blizzard shouldnt ban cheaters, their acounts should be shadowmarked and they should only match with other cheaters, at the end of the season the best cheater could earn a sticker or something

[@sweetdashie7221]

No sticker, we dont wanna praise them for cheating (also fall guys did that)

[@DarukaEon]

I second this idea! 🤣

[@selfiestick1589]

That be cute, a dounce hat or something insulting them, then let them experience a 5v5 with only cheaters and mach level bots, only qp, and far away from interacting with actual players

[@BoatRadio]

Blizzard should ban you for that idea.

[@maranolen3338]

I second this as long as flats gets to commentate the games making fun of them

[@mikesyr]

This is a really important video for people who claim that it's not cheating when you see stuff like this. There's levels to these types of cheats beyond just hotkeys or foot pedal switches to turn them on etc. Slight aim assist, sometimes nerfing the head shots to every few shots(adjustable) etc. This can be especially effective with hitscan players etc. The telltale is almost always positioning and movement. I tend to be suspicious when it's a good lobby, but one person is 25-15 and the deaths are because of skill diff and bad positioning etc. A quick review of the footage almost always turns up crap like this video is showing. I'm not going to say its rampant, but it's enough that major streamers like @Flats can make content all the time...

[@karamei]

From what I've been seeing, a lot of the telltale signs of cheats are in the tracking and wall hacking. Kill cams alone don't tell the full story unless the hacks are really blatant. It's good to watch replays (and the whole replay, since cheaters often crank up the settings or do some interesting afks) when suspicious. Too many people still think aimbot means constant head shots.

[@Criosdaidh]

Exactly. The forums are full of idiots claiming that cheating is super rare, that they've been playing OW for 5 years and saw "2 cheaters the whole time" and other BS. They're either ignorant to what cheating does and CAN look like or plain lying.

[@mikesyr]

@@Criosdaidh Agreed, but I'm leaning towards them just being ignorant.

[@Criosdaidh]

@@mikesyr I think some of them are, but alot of them get way too butt hurt about it imo to just be ignorant. The venom they spew (even when you post a video and prove it) just screams guilty party. (not all but often times).

[@marcuskhan6739]

I am the opposing tank in that game and I thought his aim was fishy that game but I couldn't tell tbh his awareness was that of a blind, deaf, and mute rock yet his aim was oddly good at times so seeing this has made my day :)

[@sinscribe]

omg ahahaha

[@CaptainSway]

congrats to emongg for winning this game with the clear handicap lmaooo

[@Roanoak]

If he knows who you are, he definitely knows who Emongg is… there is no way he would risk turning the cheats all the way up.

[@TGG104]

Ah, but the choice is so difficult for these script kids. Do I just play normally? Or do I cheat to win this game so my ego is boosted? Such is life. ...ill never understand it.

[@oliverbs0417]

@@TGG104I don’t either I’m gold as a casual player not playing often still pretty bad at the game but I’d rather be bad than cheat at least when I pop off or do good plays it feels rewarding to improve but cheating deals cheap and like if I was watching someone else play, boring, maybe fun for messing in a private lobby with ai or friends having a laugh.

[@rph1990]

Yeah, but he probably didn't expect Emongg to go back and watch the replay. It's only because Chat was going wild over it being the same guy as Flats' game

[@kill3rw0lf39]

​@@JhonnyStone100nice bait

[@Tzoppo11]

@@JhonnyStone100 This is either half decent bait or you're actually brain dead.

[@kylehues8465]

Man, this guy is so bad... Thank you Flats I needed this confidence boost ❤

[@RawBaconEnjoyer]

I'm a junkrat main that just switched over to wrecking and Lucio but I still have better aim than him. Now I feel confident about my garbage aim.

[@comd.shepard]

It is soooooo ez to detect cheaters with AI, but Blizzard is just a small indie company. We should buy more battle passes to help them guys.

[@master9m9]

yeah the problem is they only focus on making more money not improving the game maybe in 2030

[@alesolren]

@@master9m9at this rate the franchise won’t be around in the next 2 years, let alone 2030

[@_bizmo_fungus_894]

@@alesolrenreal

[@jonathansistrunk5773]

⁠@@master9m9bro missed the joke entirely

[@hazulaf3503]

For real, they’re trying their best but they need help, make sure to pre order everything they make too

[@mister_meme3608]

5:35 as a gold 3 doom who sees soldiers all the time, this guy is nothing 💀

[@epileptix8954]

Gold 3 doom? You're telling on yourself rn.

[@mister_meme3608]

@@epileptix8954 To show that I know what I'm talking about? The only unnecessary info was that I play doom

[@senorbeans9016]

​@@mister_meme3608dw abt them. Mad respect for playing doom hes hard as hell to master and fun as hell. Keep it up dude im proud of u.

[@nazul9502]

@@epileptix8954 ppl that are gold are not shit, they're actually slightly above average which is silver

[@Celestial_Ibuki]

@@epileptix8954you jealous of them being gold 3 or something lol that’s not bad

[@foragerimp3753]

My favorite part is that the moment Flats looked at chat near the start of the game to say that he wants to see if he's cheating, the guy locked onto the Moira's head and almost killed her. Then he immediately went back to being bad when Flats looked back lmao. 7:55 that's the Soldier's PTSD, the walls are talking, and they sound like omnics

[@JackiedudeQQ]

The unbelievable thing happened in my game yesterday, a cheater actually got banned mid-game in my comp games! And honestly, I think I was the only one in my team that noticed they were cheating, also I wasn't saying anything because skepticism. Then the pop-up (Player has been banned, game cancelled w/e) Anti-cheat went on a break and came back just for my insignificant game. _(most likely not anti-cheat)_

[@TeKnoVKNG23]

I think one of the devs said something about the report function not working either until just recently. My group and I noticed that we weren't ever getting "thanks for reporting" screens for reporting obvious cheaters and toxic people like we normally did, but then I saw on twitter one of the devs mentioned that the feature hadn't been working up until just after the start of season 6. So hopefully we'll start seeing the streets cleaned up soon. It could be possible that anti-cheat wasn't working either since Blizz devs seem to care about anything outside of fixing OW2.

[@comd.shepard]

How do these cheaters have fun playing like this. I am a gold Tracer, I get shit on 50% of the time.....my team doesn't follow up but still I have fun because I know all the losses & wins are all me. When I stick & pop off it's me ........how are they able to get satisfaction from this???

[@Original_J65]

Some people have such a sad life that they are so desperate to feel ANY kind of happiness to make them feel better.

[@GS-el8ll]

i was thinking the same, imagine the mental state of someone who pays money to play in this rank, then pays for cheats and feeds this hard, the loser energy is off the charts

[@Relevart9169]

Well cheaters and throwers share the same mindset "I'll ruin this game for everyone since I can't play it" not realizing ppl actually laugh at them more than they rage

[@shockmazta3116]

Out of the 3 cheater watching/catching youtubers I watch, you and Camomo are the most likeable. Keep it up, Flats.

[@SomeKindaHero117]

8:35 Hey! I hit my shots! ... Sometimes

[@jasonace]

"That is a literal insult to Gold 5 players." - Thank you for saying that Flats. -signed... Gold 5 Player.

[@NaruNocona]

He shooting at the voices in his head 🗿

[@gameknight_4007]

whenever anyone thinks their bad at OW then think of this guy and you'll see your better than at least someone

[@questionable_live]

The key thing to note about soft aim especially watching in slow motion is the immediate change in direction of the crosshair depending on the movement. Also he probably was doing right click only due to right click being hitscan and him having no projectile cheat enabled.

[@nirav4556]

The amount of time i'm triggered when this guy uses the right click for long range on torb is actually unreal 😂

[@charaznable8082]

Yeah that is a huge insult to gold players. This just goes to show how ignorant people are with this game to throw out baseless takes. I'm glad Flats spoke up to that idiot who left the comment. This guy playing is rock bottom, one of the worst players.

[@kill3rw0lf39]

I could see where the guys talking from though. The guy has low awareness but not none, possibly from the cheats. His aim is actually shit, hence the cheats and often times he is out of position. I can see gold for sure man. Maybe not gold 5 but gold 1 or 2 wouldn't be outrageous.

[@kill3rw0lf39]

Of course, I havent played ow in over a year. Just remembering back to when I did play ranked.

[@Dr.Belububub]

@@kill3rw0lf39 As a Gold player, I don't really see him there. Someone in the comments said it really well: Gold players are usually really good at one aspect, but need practice in other things. The best skill of this Soldier was his aim, but that was due to cheats and he still didn't hit most shots, which is why I believe he would have problems in Gold as well.

[@lostmycat5671]

​​@@Dr.Belubububno, gold players need severe work in all aspects of the game full stop, granted I still don't think this guy is gold but lets not act like gold players are good at any aspect of the game

[@Dr.Belububub]

@@lostmycat5671 they are. Gold is where the majority of players are. You just want to call them bad.

[@Buzzbeewatches]

17:20 was the most shocking moment for me, how does he miss this many consecutive shots while cheating

[@maximilian1588]

playing on a controller

[@Buzzbeewatches]

@@maximilian1588 but he’s not, these are wall and aim hacks on MnK

[@agentwolfo101]

Cause they're using hitscan cheats on a projectile hero pretty sure flats mentions it about 1min after

[@BobOrKlaus]

as someone between silver and gold, calling this gold 5 hurt

[@jaffizz]

i didnt even watch the vid yesterday and i could easily tell its a soft aimbot based on how he was tracking the moira in the very first fight

[@jaffizz]

i didnt even finish the video btw

[@krysis7271]

Dude my dps is bronze 1 and I don’t think I’ve seen anyone with awareness or movement that bad at THAT rank

[@MrMyth-mm5by]

Just watched the other video like an hour ago, seeing this so soon after is just hilarious

[@noobtv2033]

1. I really think it's easier at high level to detect hacks because of their focus and observation so they will continue to detect abilities not to mention high level no 1 player will automatically pop up and control the match, low ranks they may have the concept of lucky shot. 2. I wish blizzard could upgrade their anti hack system or ask people in the community to help like adding a condition to participate in professional competition such as watching 1 hack video a month or paying streamers to check hackers in videos

[@sinscribe]

these are good ideas and i ship them.

[@honque2490]

I think the reason he was sniping with right-click on torb is because even dealing a small amount of damage will give you an elim, so he was trying to pad his elim count to make it seem like he wasn’t as bad.

[@Zero_Alter]

My aim is trash, but when I ult with soldier, I still manage to get mercy because it's hard to miss its a damn aimbot, lol

[@MrTiemos]

12:33 They think they’re playing OW1 Torb and looking for scraps on the ground

[@SwagIzThaName]

The follow-up we never knew we needed 😭

[@seanrasmussen2877]

I didnt know Right Click Randy plays Torb too!

[@nomii_gone]

Yeah, I got them in my game once and whenever I interacted with them this weird thing popped up on my screen that said “hacked” and it canceled my abilities. I hate hackers ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️

[@lacai527]

about shooting someone and missing, i was on fire a game as Hanzo, missed really few shots, and even they managed to find enemy head, like jumped away from enemy DF 180 killed hes support behind by missing and it was "blind" 180 flick, same dude kept collecting my missed arrows to head.

[@soninh4357]

The part 2 that we don't know we need

[@sparquisdesade]

So glad you made this video. This is hilarious. Anyways, because of you an emon's hilarious cheater videos and my own recent frustration with running into people like this (I just recently switched from console to pc, never seen so many aimbots) I looked into how these cheats work and why it's so hard for blizzard anti cheat to detect em. You can clearly tell this guy is either using a crappy, possibly self-made aimbot based in python, or his PC is so terrible that his cheats can't even work well. The funny weak point to these aimbots is they are FPS dependent. So say you're running an aimbot on a 30fps machine, you'll miss more often than not.

[@justinmanwell1038]

Hey flats I'm a big fan and I was wondering how or where I can submit a replay for you and the community to have a laugh or two

[@theundead9951]

Even the first few shots you can see the tracker going for the neck area

[@advy1358]

It's a softlocking aimbot via trigger + walls. You can toggle the aim on/off on command and seems to be tuned down so that it's not 100% obvious. They're often customizable so you can choose where the hits go directly or by random within a set X/Y axis. Used to use such software when I was a kid, around 20 years ago in ET with dedicated servers for cheaters. Same methods are used in game development as well, i.e. hitboxes or what ability hits where directly or randomly in an area. Nothing has changed regarding FPS cheats it seems.

[@DanDines]

looks like soft aim, but hes also trying to track at the same time so hes trying to fight the soft aim making it jitter and actualyl miss more

[@weakestlink99]

You have a new sub, anyone who catches cheats is a real one in my book.

[@Phobie_2008]

Overwatch 2 is becoming TF2 with all of these cheaters 😂

[@StarCrow77Gaming]

Lol fr I was top comment but you can have it now

[@astupidlylongnamethatstoolong]

Cost of going f2p. Eventually they'll develop bots for ow2 as well.

[@Phobie_2008]

@@StarCrow77Gamingaw damn, my bad man 😂

[@StarCrow77Gaming]

You good man have a great day you need one

[@maxlosergor]

@@astupidlylongnamethatstoolongthey already started doing that in ow 1

[@swag4jag559]

The only thing I felt like this cheater hit was puberty

[@dashvash5440]

That moment with the hammer was hilarious and really made it obvious

[@Klashrem]

7:40 that look just says it all

[@crescentblueee]

7:21 I’m not a soldier main, but this entire sequence of events pisses me off so much 😭 1: You really shouldn’t stand still like that, especially when the enemy KNOWS where you are. 2: Shooting at that orisa was so frustrating because mercy was RIGHT there to heal her. Headshots or not, the soldier was never gonna take her out that way. *(Bonus wtf moment: ignoring the rez immunity and shooting anyway, letting everyone get a chance to see where you’re shooting from)* 3: He was low from the javelin throw, and his healing is on cool down. His supports are dead. He still tried to get some shots in, but this dummy didn’t pay attention to the fact that he was out of ammo, so he stood there and RELOADED in front of everyone 😭😭 4: When he finally decides to retreat, he DODGES the HEALTH PACK. All of this…while cheating

[@randomperson-up5vt]

Really early today it seems

[@oswaldoswald7226]

It’s just Thursday, everything feels early

[@johnmetzakis2910]

that looks like one of those cheats that is harder to detect as it does not inject code but rather affects mouse inputs and colour detection. so they would be assigning a colour value that matches the name/health bar of target and then offsets its position to have it under the name roughly where the character is, then the cheat tries to keep the crosshair within a defined area to have it move around in that area instead of a hard lock. which is why it looks weird in its movement.

[@greytestgrey3837]

How the turn tables

[@surand_5733]

Legit thought Torb said "turning up the cheats" around 14:45 lol

[@averagegamer8850]

8:37 bro I’m silver and I’ve still seen better, dude deserves rookie rank

[@eliminatorxx713xx]

Deserves to remain in unranked 😂

[@averagegamer8850]

@@eliminatorxx713xx facts

[@eleven0624]

I'm curious if the reason he right clicks distant targets is to hide his aim cheats. He can just say they were hit by the spread and it isn't his fault. I would think that it also allows for a weaker snap setting since he is essentially shotgun blasting, thus he can look less like he's aim cheating and he's not patient enough to wait for a hitscan aim snap anyway. The up close left click could be a cover as well, to say of course he hit them when they're that close. Now he just needs to get better at not shooting targets through walls, then he'd probably get away with it.

[@AlphaNinjaFTW1]

I was pretty sure about the aim bot since the beginning cause its as if it was tracking "nearby" perfectly

[@guitardunce7571]

This looks like me when I was qualifying - bronze 3 like two seasons ago lol

[@LeonardoDVMM]

Wait hold up that music is from pokemon coliseum id recognize it anywhere

[@user-ns6fc8ll2g]

im running into these type of soldiers in plat and diamond tank games

[@shelbyl4681]

replacing the turret in the same spot instead of just repairing it made me giggle

[@DefinitelyNotLars]

"The worst ult I've ever seen" You should see me play sojourn then

[@sirmcfinklebink7040]

I dont know how but Flats' videos get me interested in OW enough to play most days I watch his videos. Thanks for making OW 2 more interesting and "coaching" me with those videos spectating awful bronze 5 players. The commentary got me out of bronze hell.

[@Sammechu]

It's always so funny to me when chat just throws out a random ass rank and bro just hits them with the "are you actually insane? This dude is bronze at best" It happens so often and it always cracks me up

[@gregconley1244]

part 3 coming soon???

[@seaboi777]

Read part of this title, was so scared that it'd say fitzy lmao

[@justharley4467]

I watched this live on Twitch !

[@slimemonster0381]

This is the best arc ever

[@stevencolor3389]

Spraying through the wall is the obvious moment, if they magdumped at the edge of the wall it is strange but atleast could be argued they were hoping the target would backpeddle into those shots.

[@TheZajicekfarber]

I don't think they know what health packs are? They never picked any up whenever they ran away at low health.

[@Freirelucass1]

One day Flats will make an actual charcuterie board with the IQ of the cheater vods he watches

[@MilkysRevenge]

He went into the hyperbolic time chamber and only trained his aim😮

[@emi9643]

6:30 bro really just laid it all out on the table there. the tracer NEVER shows and dude is tracking and shooting directly at her.

[@Moge86]

Imagine, when someone cheated and still loses. The cheater's probably gonna quit forever and getting an existensial crisis, while the opposing team felt like they are rulers of the universe 😆. It felt so great 😌

[@deKahedron]

12:32 Bro's still playing scrap collector torb

[@baragon023]

That somersaulting Bap. 💀 😂

[@chrisanderson5974]

I shoot at the walls too while I'm tracking someone... But I'm just not a good player! :) Just curious, If you plug in a controller on PC with OW does it turn on aim assist like the console uses? (I think it uses it still doesn't it?)

[@iHateHandlesGetRidOfThis]

it looks like his cursor is on a string tied to their head, just barely lagging behind

[@taylorwildman5778]

this looks like an aim bot design to track the head movements with a slight latency it tracks the head position very well with a small gap which throws it off when moving sideways but get position and movements correct and youre setup for a bunch of headshots its designed to limit headshot accuracy while still working so it doesnt stir up suspicion

[@silverkitsune5164]

It always makes me lsugh when flats will be mid tangent while a replay is going. Then something happens that he immediately gets shut up and needs to rewind to bring attention to xD

[@demonyahferguson1116]

I'm nowhere near GM on bronze one at best but seeing this just warms my heart It makes me feel a little bit better knowing that I'm better than a cheater I'd still get smashed in this lobby mind you

[@DauntedDais]

This guys gameplay looks like if you sat Kermit the Frog at a computer and told him to play overwatch.

[@N1375_]

they might be looking for the second tank

[@DeadMasterMusic]

I can’t believe that people exist like this by cheats, and still have awareness like a bird hitting a window

[@hydraslasher3474]

Gotta love reoccurring characters

[@Tre_swift]

If youve seen Karq's old hitboxes video with the pill shapes, it looks like his cheats aim for that instead of the character shape...

[@Hen3349]

so I randomly decided to look at my replays and realized how weird my camera movements are like I can sometimes just manage to lock onto someone without ever seeing them and following them through the wall I dont even know they are there its just how I play I always appear like im cheating its strange anyone else like that?

[@turkz3227]

When he’s repairing the turret and tracking the Moria through the wall. What makes it better is the turret was already full health and wasn’t get shot… this guy is a specimen… it make me wonder if he has hands

[@lotte_is_tired]

''sir youve been accused of cheating what is your defence?'' ''THE VOICES''

[@Tomtommer]

Why is there a level 1 turret at 17:39 ???

[@neodinium7316]

Surely they can set up an ai that tracks mouse movement.. even the most perfect human mouse movement isnt straight and is curvy. Aimbot is pure straight lines everywhere. And im pretty sure there was some talk for another game about stopping smurfs by creating a profile of how you move and aim. Surely ai could be usee to EASILY determine shit like this. All it needs is a little bit of data and just ban the worst cases. Like aim for 100% probability of cheating and ban those players so no chance of banning legit players

[@Stogie1]

It's like they are aiming with their arrow keys

[@DeynaMoonbringer]

Alternate Title: "Cheater so bad he needs two aimbots and still feeds." I lost it when he went Torb. "He has an aimbot and he needs a 2nd aimbot!"

[@AlGggeee]

How do you find those cheaters? In game everyone swears there are no hackers in OW2

[@brianomalley8306]

Mans has got that Goldeneye movement

[@softminkzies3599]

never thought id get complimented as a gold 5

[@SonnyICZ-4309]

8:50 this is definitely an insult to bronze 5 rank out there

[@JMotion]

Who would win? A team of GMs - One guy who doesn't know wtf he's doing

[@hush3956]

He was pretty blatantly using aim assist at the start, the aim tracked perfectly and it didnt take him even a 10th of a second to realize they were going the other way, he just immediately changed his direction of aim

[@atsushimichio]

So glad to see Emongg won this game despite the handicap 🙏

[@BabyMandingo]

Bro ran past a health-pack at 30hp 😂

[@joshuacastanon626]

“He plays like a gold 5” me: ayo wtf

[@StillNightingale]

watching him play was so hard to do