No amount of negative comments about the furry fandom can ever stop me from feeling amazed and proud of the amazing work everyone does in it. I just wanted to share how happy I am to have helpful people like you in the fandom, and I hope you continue to do good work!
@SN4PDRAG0N2 жыл бұрын
I feel as though people misunderstand furries.. It's a lot of fun, and it's healthy to do what makes you happy. 🤍
@wheatsock2 жыл бұрын
Same!!!
@danderlionrexs33126 жыл бұрын
I wannabe make a head but I'm scared of this part of the furring is anyone else feeling the same way
@MugiwaraCosplay6 жыл бұрын
It's also the most difficult part (for me it is)
@z0mb13mu776 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna dive straight in once I finish making my head base
@AdelaTomankova6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like Starpelt said, just dive into it.
@yuai69596 жыл бұрын
yeah i am scared of it
@hazelfur68716 жыл бұрын
@Lillianna Littlefield just sew by hand xd
@canadiancaribou8556 жыл бұрын
Can we just acknowledge the fact that people are spending time making things for you. Thank you
@-draco-31586 жыл бұрын
Pungent AJ a
@buttercup87145 жыл бұрын
Imma just use hotglue
@sirfart51845 жыл бұрын
Happy Flower please don’t it’s not gonna go amazing! If you are planning to have the head forever, take my word for it, it won’t last. It’s pretty easy to hand sew and more fun
@mosh63635 жыл бұрын
I think go to use the machine, because i'm bad doing the *nudo*
@wonderbreadog7 жыл бұрын
THANK👏YOU👏FOR👏THIS👏 For some reason this is the only good tutorial I found for furring a head base??? This is great thank you!♡
@madisonjackson20786 жыл бұрын
Harley same!!
@gaygoblin59395 жыл бұрын
i love ur profile picture!
@idgafoops37104 жыл бұрын
Ikr I don't like how long people talk sometimes.
@leviichuu7115 жыл бұрын
When I started watching I was like: “What? This is too hard. But when it came down to hand sewing everything together I felt like it wasn’t hard at all. Thanks! Now I get it!
@roseywolf78676 жыл бұрын
This looks hard but it’s just time consuming and you need a huge amount of patience for this
@walfie36605 жыл бұрын
Rosey Wolf Absolutely agree
@isabellanorth39345 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats what making a suit is
@ZZ-uf1fs4 жыл бұрын
Rosey Wolf its been a year since I have touched my fur suit head and its not even finished
@marilynalvarez-bryant97244 жыл бұрын
And a HUGE AMOUNT OF FURRRRRRRRRR, my fur costed me $30.99 for HALF A YARDDDDD, IM SOO ANGRYYYYYYY
@storitimecreations3 жыл бұрын
@@marilynalvarez-bryant9724 I get mine for about 26 per yard
@johnpullen71836 жыл бұрын
I'd love to do this one day when I can do my own things and my family doesn't judge me 😢
@fen9995 жыл бұрын
Just say it’s for Halloween 😉
@gogwad17614 жыл бұрын
@@BlueError404 Same here, I will be 13 in 10 days. What I was thinking is to get a head base, and then put straps in it to hold it up on your head. Then when you grow into it, you can take the straps out! =3
@lachelnderhund4 жыл бұрын
@@BlueError404 there is no age for building a fursuit, commissioning yes, but making one no, I'm 14, Already have 2 fursuits, all I can say is its frustrating in the making but in the end it was worth the struggle
@y4e4a4h4 жыл бұрын
@@ilikeboobieslol9604 I'm 12 too!! I cant wait to commission mine in two years or so!! It's only the head, paws, and tail :)
@shannon39444 жыл бұрын
@@BlueError404 well, just so you know you need to wait till you are at least 13-15 years old because that's when you almost completly stop growing. If you're young (like 10 or so) when you make a fursuit head, then you'll outgrow it within a year or so.
@AliceTheWoofingCat5 жыл бұрын
This is basically the conversation I had with my brother to convince him to help me with a fursuit Me: hey do you want to help me make a fursuit?? Brother: uhhh.. Tsk I, uh... well I'm kinda busy... Me: if we get good we can make them for money Brother: *visible interest
@bittersweetchocolatestudio87334 жыл бұрын
XD
@shannon39444 жыл бұрын
Good way to turn them into a furry... ;3 XD
@idgafoops37104 жыл бұрын
Haha lucky my brother called by wolf head a rabbit and my sparrow a penguin (me🤡)
@colorbar.s4 жыл бұрын
why do you write dialogue like fucking anime subtitles my god
@SuperAlaskangirl4 жыл бұрын
@@colorbar.s cuz they can...😒
@user-qd3cr5ot2y7 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried making a quadsuit? If you do try, please show a tutorial. I have never seen any .
@MugiwaraCosplay7 жыл бұрын
Not yet but I really want to :3
@user-qd3cr5ot2y7 жыл бұрын
Mugiwara Cosplay All ive heard on making one is adding stilts so you use you hands to hold stilts. (did that make sense?)
@MugiwaraCosplay7 жыл бұрын
That's true
@user-qd3cr5ot2y7 жыл бұрын
Mugiwara Cosplay Making fursuits looks so easy! I just dont have anything to make stuff with. Your great at it!
@cinnamontheanimator5 жыл бұрын
I can’t thank you enough for this. Other furring tutorials have not showed me exactly how to sew it, and I felt scared to fur my head. But I feel more confident now, thank you so much. 💙💙💙
@akechinui6 жыл бұрын
I’m getting a manokit base suit and I regret the way I furred my first suit, so this is very helpful. Thanks 🥰
@sarahnismithh4 жыл бұрын
Loser sameee like so bad ( I got chunks of fur scrapes and glued it where the holes where, and I glued everything>:O)
@sarahnismithh4 жыл бұрын
(I’m just making a new one because when I was refurbing it I was like the worst base I have ever seen so I’m just buying a base than furring it 😅
@sarahnismithh4 жыл бұрын
BeatGirl thanks 😊
@RileyWolfLynx10 ай бұрын
Same
@expensivejeon41457 жыл бұрын
Can you teach us how to make a fullsuit? Or a body?
@MugiwaraCosplay7 жыл бұрын
It's already on my list ;)
@nothankssings98526 жыл бұрын
if you cant find any just look up 'Full body fursuit tutorial'
@FuipKo6 жыл бұрын
Omg yes that would be soooooooooooo helpful
@finnedfury68886 жыл бұрын
ARMYYYYYYYY
@expensivejeon41456 жыл бұрын
Flower_ Yoongi yaaaasss 😂😂😂
@ilikeboobieslol96045 жыл бұрын
YOU HAND SEW THEM?!?!?! HOLY CRAP YOUR A LEGEND
@Lexi-ev6hm5 жыл бұрын
THANK. YOU! ive needed this for a while. Im making my own fursuit head for the first time and im really scared! Im 11 btw (so obviously my moms helping) but THANK YOU!!!!!
@wasp95875 жыл бұрын
Hope it went well if it’s already done- if not, then good luck!
@spuffynz70935 жыл бұрын
OWO same I'm 11 too but no one help me with my fursuit your lucky!!! Good job tho
@wlfshadw47645 жыл бұрын
I’m 11, too my moms not helping. Ur lucky! But good luck!
@kiragreen39825 жыл бұрын
Same! But my grandma will help me.
@imposterz33025 жыл бұрын
Shy Cat Studios same! But my mom and dad are going to help me. :)
@cross35065 жыл бұрын
Your channel has helped me so much in the procces of making my suit, and I want to thank you for that. Keep being amazing!
@mypenisisunbelievablysmall57936 жыл бұрын
before you furred it it looked like my dog lmao
@assassinscreedreallifepran10806 жыл бұрын
LoL
@smkystnanimations12314 жыл бұрын
Whooosh
@y4e4a4h4 жыл бұрын
@@smkystnanimations1231 they were kidding..
@smkystnanimations12314 жыл бұрын
@@y4e4a4h I know, just wanted to see what they would say lmao
@shannon39444 жыл бұрын
Do you have a samoyed? I love Samoyeds, theyre like living marshmellows!! 😄
@ccdowd78256 жыл бұрын
AH! THIS HELPED! I FINALLY MADE ZACHARY! THANK YOU~
@Cosmic_Rex5 жыл бұрын
Cc Dowd hey my real name is Zachary!
@prizmlavafox4207 жыл бұрын
LIFE SAVERRRRR
@atgmix16236 жыл бұрын
Candy The Furry la fesh sar vers
@whowhaatwhere5 жыл бұрын
undertale fnaf plush and stuff XDD
@hershey6875 жыл бұрын
I think I would recommend using numbers for making the fur designs. :3 arrows are also good so you can remember which way the fur goes
@springthedrynx90485 жыл бұрын
Kawaiiblue Moon good idea honestly
@tundra-bun3 жыл бұрын
You can use code numbers! Like the nose is 21, the back is 89, and inside the ear is 90.
@ceilingsquid24715 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful! I’m going to start buying materials to make my first partial suit, and I was terrified and confused of adding fur. Amazing work!
@vampyteef74887 жыл бұрын
Nice! I'm in love with this! It looks like my doggos
@MugiwaraCosplay7 жыл бұрын
I'm also thinking dog xD But he will look like a wolf when I'm finished shaving it :)
@vampyteef74887 жыл бұрын
Mugiwara Cosplay oh ok. Bet it'll be twice as cute :3
@racoon14675 жыл бұрын
@@MugiwaraCosplay is this a husky,if it is l really love this kind of dog (I would like to be a husky 😍😍🐺
@SN4PDRAG0N2 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best video explaining how to do this that I've seen, Thank you 🤍
@citreathewolf94026 жыл бұрын
Im currently furring my base :3
@zshrooomz Жыл бұрын
Tysm! I was always scared to put fur on because I thought it would mess it up, thanks! It actually seems pretty simple but takes long! I think when I am a little older I am going to buy a Manokit head base to fur
@sirfart51845 жыл бұрын
I’m just about to start furring my head and I knew who to go to for the tutorial :)
@ryeramey7265 жыл бұрын
This was so helpful and the reason me and my brother (12&11) did our first commission for someone. Please continue your amazing work.
@sovietdoggo53947 жыл бұрын
I am afraid that when you cut it off it ?might rip the foam base is that possible to happen
@MugiwaraCosplay7 жыл бұрын
It has never happened to me
@KoltiraMemeweaver6 жыл бұрын
I've cut into the foam when using exacto to cut off the pattern. It doesn't really affect anything if you do, I mean unless you're leaving big ass gouges or something.
@0neweirdmutt6 жыл бұрын
If you tape onto suranrap like she did then you should be fine.
@hightoparts49606 жыл бұрын
Pix The Cat place plastic wrap under the tape, only tape half, basically copy the video. Make sure to cut 2 and to cut slowly in small chunks, if you want longer fur.
@sirfart51846 жыл бұрын
I use duck tape to secure the head so I can wash it, I use masking tape for the pattern. It's just my way (;
@eeddiitt4444 жыл бұрын
Thx for this, I needed it for my foam base 🤗 Oh wow u actually read that, thx.
@darkriver39507 жыл бұрын
How’d you get the fur to stick on? Hot glue?
@MugiwaraCosplay7 жыл бұрын
Hot glue, it tells it in part 2. Part 1 is only about cutting the fur and sew it
@darkriver39507 жыл бұрын
Ah okay^^ thanks!
@gen31986 жыл бұрын
Dark River Yeahhhhh
@peppermink22005 жыл бұрын
I was so stuck when it came to this step omg 😭😭😭 you're a life saver
@MeDoMeer5 жыл бұрын
I'm jealous of your scissors
@lotorious47695 жыл бұрын
I love your tutorials, they help me so much! I’m still working on buying/ordering some materials, but when I get them, I hope to make a great fursuit! This was really helpful! :3
@mildlyburnttoast6695 жыл бұрын
Hi, I know this was like a year ago but I’m wondering when your furring round parts of the head you add the triangle cut things, correct? If so does it matter where you put the cuts or..?
@Sovereignt74 жыл бұрын
Late response to your comment but the person does not cut triangles out, they simply cut lines in the pattern so it lays flat. When taking the tape off it's often still the same shape as the head but the patterns need to be flat so that's why they do that.
@Lesleylooz Жыл бұрын
Honestly this video is really helpful, thanks!
@tavrosnitram60594 жыл бұрын
_Brother walks in_ "...Are you a furry?" "uHHHH NO" I say, standing next to my poorly made fursuit head
@hexhollows4 жыл бұрын
Oh shit its my second account
@tavrosnitram60594 жыл бұрын
ApocalypseCosmo ay yuh
@gloopgloopington42622 жыл бұрын
My biggest fear in life
@Tsooms6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! This really helped me. I didn't know how to fur correctly, so I searched for one and this was perfect! My first one was a big fail because I didn't even sew. So thanks for showing a timelaps upclose of how to do this!
@lucyoltramari34985 жыл бұрын
I love your tutorials! Thanks to these helpful videos, My fursona, Candy was made! ;3;❤️
@commandermickey5 жыл бұрын
bro your so good at making these things idk how you do it. props to you
@junetheartist28655 жыл бұрын
Time for us : 18 min Time for maker: 18 hours
@i_love_sharks3 жыл бұрын
so I have been trying to fur a head without it looking like crap.THIS HELPED SO MUTCH!!!!
@wowspiders71766 жыл бұрын
Aah! This really helped because I’m working on my character Rio for mff and I was having trouble with this. Thank you!
@burgerguts93796 жыл бұрын
MFF just so happens to be right now. How is it so far? Did you make it?
@kkaa45264 жыл бұрын
Omg thank u so much!!! This really helped I'm making a fursuit right now and I just need a few things to be cleared up it's my third suit that I've furred but all the others where skulls! Thank u ♡♡♡
@pixiebean66164 жыл бұрын
I’m just so confused on how to do the back and the neck 🥺
@silverfinnalt4 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me how people like you can be so talented to make these
@otakualchemist97255 жыл бұрын
This is saved to my playlist called *i swear I'm not a furry*
@MugiwaraCosplay5 жыл бұрын
Cosplayers make fursuits too, without being furries, so don't worry :)
@i_love_sharks3 жыл бұрын
yeeaa
@marshgen10795 жыл бұрын
This is just amazing ;0 I’ll be buying your template for the base soon and will be following all the tutorials! Thank you for making these!
@game0ver9905 жыл бұрын
There’s literally butterflies in me belly because of this... lol I’m scared
@poliol8375 жыл бұрын
Same man
@domis94905 жыл бұрын
Am I only one who thinks this is kinda satisfying to watch when mugiwara is sewing the furs?
@funtimemilkshake34785 жыл бұрын
I want to make a head, but I'm scared that I will fur it wrong...... just me???? Ok....
@madelynryan84924 жыл бұрын
I feel you, dude. I'm working on a Springtrap fursuit head and working with the fur is so intimidating ಠ︵ಠ
@tarahousand22864 жыл бұрын
Very time consuming, but when you make progress, it makes you proud of yourself.
@brooke-lm1hc5 жыл бұрын
This looks like a robot in the beginning
@Deerbite6 жыл бұрын
This really helps! I was stuck on how I could fur the muzzle but after watching this it made it really simple!
@robertarbon55615 жыл бұрын
aaaaah this helped my understand how to fur better BUUUUUUT it still looks messier than an unbrushed suit in a hurricane in a tornado 😭😭😭😭😅😅😅
@lavender_heart52633 жыл бұрын
im glad im searching this stuff up, imma be safe making my first head!!! thank u!
@radek92237 жыл бұрын
Hi Your's films are very Nice. I like your channel. 👍👍🔔🔔😊😊😁😁💓💓POLAND/POLSKA💓💓😁😁😊😊🔔🔔👍👍
@MugiwaraCosplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Pawteto6 жыл бұрын
Ja też jestem z Polski 🇵🇱
@moonlight40165 жыл бұрын
Polska przejmie YT xD
@hysteriacs2 жыл бұрын
I know im late but thank you so much! I used to think this part was so scary and this helpe me become more confident! My last suit i didnt even sew so thank you! :)
@notjen_64065 жыл бұрын
Me being like " oh now I see why patterns are hard".
@moodymoov63264 жыл бұрын
Wow I was not expecting my first fursuit head to be good thx you
@arshadkhairat11626 жыл бұрын
How do you know how to cut the tape when it‘s on the head? And which stitch do you use to sew all together?
@MugiwaraCosplay6 жыл бұрын
I just draw on the tape before cutting it. And I don't know what the stitch is called but it almost looks like the blanket stitch
@nansie93456 жыл бұрын
Mugiwara Cosplay Hi! How do you know what shapes so draw on the head?
@humannumberzero26204 жыл бұрын
@@nansie9345 you draw them depending on your sonas fur pattern I think
@claudiahovatter3415 жыл бұрын
Definatally saving this for later so I know which way to make the fur go up or down its the most scariest part for me but I'm ready!
@chubbybubbybeat26086 жыл бұрын
It looks like a scottie aka a type of dog because of its long hair
@BrodisWorld Жыл бұрын
This is amazingly informative and easy to follow. Im curious how you keep the fur to the head while you are doing this but i will watch part 2 to find out. This head looks adorable too hes so fluffy
@oblinv66616 жыл бұрын
Do you have to put cling wrap on the head before the duct tape, or can you just put the duct tape right onto the foam?
@MugiwaraCosplay6 жыл бұрын
The duct tape tape will be very hard to cut and get off if you don't use plastic wrap
@oblinv66616 жыл бұрын
Mugiwara Cosplay Okay thank you!
@bowie32156 жыл бұрын
that looks really really fluffy
@alovelydeadfish6 жыл бұрын
Hes a shaggy boi
@zongothefox84717 жыл бұрын
Thank you this was extremely helpful cuz I thought I could be able to do it but clearly not btw that's a cute head😍❤
@luciayay26 жыл бұрын
How many yards of fabric did you use?
@MugiwaraCosplay6 жыл бұрын
I don't really know because I always end up with a lot of extra fur xD
@peppermink22005 жыл бұрын
If you still need this One head takes up about a yard of fur
@ingridgrooms5 жыл бұрын
I'm getting so Inspired by this !!!
@chewedupgum49895 жыл бұрын
It looks like lots of fun ! For me not for my wallet
@claireburt13145 жыл бұрын
I NEED this. I'm planning on making gunshots of Gray Wing and Skystar from warriors (I'm obsessed with that series). Thank you so much!
@humannumberzero26204 жыл бұрын
One of us one of us
@kennethh42006 жыл бұрын
Need furry, only a kid, 1yl, is 18. LETS MAKE OUR OWN!
@bunnie69945 жыл бұрын
Crystal the Poodle I make my own suits and I’m 12, it’s not that expensive to make your own. I just wait for sales for the fabric store I go to and then get foam and fur!
@FuipKo6 жыл бұрын
I feel blessed that I can watch the work of a professional like you😇This is going to be so helpful and I really enjoyed the video thank you thank you thank you so very much this is sooo helpful. You just added yourself a new sub .🌈🦄 💜 ❤️
@Alex-rv5mj5 жыл бұрын
Ya know the simple part is cutting and glue and seeing But I need more money...... ;__;
@possumlino4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! My friend has commissioned me to make a fursuit for her so this really helps
@MyceliumNebula5 жыл бұрын
this is kinda like taxidermy if you think about it 🤔
@gigiech-rob95425 жыл бұрын
LyingPeaches yeah, except for the fact that this is faux fur
@MyceliumNebula5 жыл бұрын
@@gigiech-rob9542 well yeah, that's why i said kinda. in taxidermy, they put the fur on a foam base like this
@possumlino4 жыл бұрын
not necessarily, taxidermy is pelts and stuff
@polkadotters54944 жыл бұрын
I'm 12 and really small! I want to have the furry paws, feet and everything! I'm not confident though, and I dont earn my own money, plus my mom doesn't have a job and I can't afford all the materials and sewing classes! But because I'm small, I feel like everyone is going to stare at me and every other furry are going to think I'm weird. That would happen if I had confidence and actually had some parts of the suit... anyway, the way you made this tutorial really helps me understand a lot how much love goes into suits, and how much effort comes with it. It also helped with my tiny brain, Thank you!!! ❤❤❤
@furrywolfgirl21167 жыл бұрын
😍
@leohereezz34345 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you so much it is so hard for me to find a video like this thank you so much again 😀😸👯💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖✌👌👍
@SuperAlaskangirl4 жыл бұрын
Also your hard work to make these suits made me become a furry and make one!❤🥺 also that's an AMAZING turprial
@SuperAlaskangirl4 жыл бұрын
Tutorial* lol
@midnightplayzstudios72285 жыл бұрын
*Thanks so much! I've been wanting to make a fur head but I didn't know how to!*
@pasteldragonscale95274 жыл бұрын
But am gretting better and better at knowing How to do this its because of this awsome youtuber big shout out of her good creativity :3
@hellothereitsyou84115 жыл бұрын
When u sew them together do u see the strip like thingies that you cut on one piece?
@D.LARRY77 жыл бұрын
This helped me ALOT with my Dutch angel dragon head.Thank you
@floof_sophia41264 жыл бұрын
I feel like making the pattern and remembering where everything goes is the hardest part of making your own firsuit head
@jinxthissenjinxedarts69936 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you i wanted to finish my fursuit for a long time but i didnt dare to cut the fur..so expensive lol but now i will start hopefully i wont fail
@juniperthedeerfox83113 жыл бұрын
I just bought a fursuit head base for my OC Orion, (Or-Ee-An) I’m excited to fur him!
@quuaackyy7 жыл бұрын
Yay!! You always make the best tutorials! I was waiting for this one
@MugiwaraCosplay7 жыл бұрын
:3
@Username702 жыл бұрын
is there a specific way to cut the tape if it is round? I'm afraid of accidentally missing those round edges and ending up with inaccurate sizes for cutting the fur
@Despair_Bunny3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a base from my friend so hopefully I can make a good head for my sona
@STELLAISONFIRE2 жыл бұрын
I'm still a young furry but we're gonna order a headbase and I'm gonna attempt this, hopefully it works out
@totoro0016 жыл бұрын
I like how you sew the whole head worth of fur together, then pull it over the foam instead of sewing small parts, then gluing them separately (so there are a number of different pieces of fur attached to your foam head). The one question I have is, can you not whip stitch on your sewing machine (I believe that's the stitch you're using)?
@MugiwaraCosplay6 жыл бұрын
No, and I don't recommend machine sewing the face, I hand sew so that the seams are not that visible
@soybeanfuchs65883 жыл бұрын
I know this is a really old video but how much fur should I get for the head, hand paws, foot paws and medium sized tail? I dont want to get too much fur nor to little.
@fred39207 жыл бұрын
Incredible video as always! Really helpful, and well explained!
@MugiwaraCosplay7 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@LoserCatStudios4 жыл бұрын
I ordered a base because I was scared and confused and nervous to make it... but now I’m nervous when I fur it so I’m looking at as many tutorials as I can
@allisonkenzie9085 жыл бұрын
i’m buying a foam base and furruing it! ^w^ this was helpful for me to just see the basics! thanks!! :3
@brokenrobot20045 жыл бұрын
I don't actually have seams, I just glue it where it looks right, like making a 3D Model Texture in a way. Worked fine for me!
@MugiwaraCosplay5 жыл бұрын
If you don't have seams how do you get the fur to fit? Do you just throw the fur on and glue without cutting it first?
@brokenrobot20045 жыл бұрын
@@MugiwaraCosplay oh nono!! I cut the fur and then glue it on the base and skip attaching the pattern together
@MugiwaraCosplay5 жыл бұрын
Ahh okay x3
@Setixu4 жыл бұрын
I have a question my fursona has a Mohawk and when I’m furring it should I keep the Mohawk on or wht also my plastic wrap doesn’t want to stick when I keep the Mohawk on pls help me I love ur channel!!
@Polopony20.5 жыл бұрын
I have a few questions (Sorry if you`ve already answered these, i scanned the comments but didn't see any): 1. do you have to use a certain type of faux fur? (i heard something about Shag fur??) 2. how do you know where to dart? 3. where did you get/how do you make the eyes?
@robertosaba88133 жыл бұрын
I know i am a bit late to this thread, but about how much fur would you need for a head (for say just one color) like 1 yard or like 3? thanks!