TV Explained: Why Plasma TVs Are Dead

[@nathanielgeorge3687]

Thanks for the video! I just wanted to add that my Panasonic Plasma TV is still going strong after 17 years since I first bought it. Even the remote control is still in good condition as well. It is sad that you can't purchase Panasonic Plasmas in Canada anymore.

[@hannamontana6182]

I too have a Pioneer Elite Plasma that is 16 years old and it STILL runs excellent. Wonderful picture. No burn-in or any dumb issues I'm reading and hearing about today. I spent $5,000 on it (bought from a home theater store for better quality) but in my mind it was well worth it!! Only issue is it gets hot after being on for a couple hours!

[@rickdanner8682]

I have two 42" Panasonic Plasmas. Heat is minimal, no burn in that I can tell. Bought them back in about 2000 I think within a couple of years of each other. Still working great. Definitely got my money's worth. They are only 720P though. Thinking about getting Smart LED TVs. I am pretty frugal with my money so any purchase is considered real carefully. Trouble is the technology has passed me by so quickly and my research of these TVs and streaming service devices and such leave me more confused. Basically I am a TV watcher for movies no gaming. I don't want to get too caught up in a huge expensive TV. No bigger than 50 " for where I have them. Oh well My research continues.

[@Jonathon1031]

I have a Panasonic plasma that works like new

[@michaelglynn9375]

I have a 17 year Samsung 42” Plasma which sees a lot of use but still has a superb picture quality with zero burn in. The power supply failed a few years ago but this was easily fixed and the TV is currently running as good as new.

[@HPTBANDIT]

I got a 42 inch Panasonic plasma TV that’s about 17 years old. It’s starting to show its age. I’ve been wanting to upgrade to a 65-75” but it’s hard to to move on because the picture still looks great.

[@Math1eu-]

I don't get it. You say plasma died because of price, burn in, low brightness... It's exactly what OLEDs are.

[@TulgaD5]

He listed a lot more details advantages to plasma TVs. OLED have much more common with LED TVs, so it has the same advantages as LED has over plasma, except for prices and burn in. I never heard that brightness was an issue, but prices will eventually go down anyway and as he said, burn ins are only an issue, if you have a lot of static image, which is uncommon for home TVs.

[@Babblingboolean]

What TulgaD5 wrote, there are additional details listed.

[@cmfrtblynmb02]

Oleds have other advantages that plasma doesn't. It is thin, light, colors are amazing, they do well on bright areas, they are efficient. You need to use your head a little. Lots of disadvantages of he mentioned are advantages of OLED

[@Sabretooth-Biggavel]

When I first got my panasonic 50 inch viera back in the day, I put a usb with full screen colour jpgs on it and let them loop for hours all day for a couple of days to avoid the burn in problem, I'm still using it to this day as my main tv in my game room!

[@rtyt2007]

I have a Panasonic ST60 and I love it, was purchased for $100 and I feel was a great purchase. The picture quality at night is incredible, unlike anything I have seen before. The picture is perfect, natural but with a deep black levels. I wish plasma TVs still existed, the new generation is too black and I feel looks over contrasted.

[@jh-zr8uj]

Big one was the inability to do 4k, they couldn't get the pixels small enough. The only 4k Plasma every made was around 150". Similar to issue that microled is dealing with right now.

[@overwatch761]

Plasma doesn't need 4K. My 1080p 60" KRP600 blows the socks of the latest 4K OLEDs. More natural picture, beautiful natural motion, still sensational after 14 years. Oled looks cool but it also looks fake.

[@panda.7055]

@@overwatch761delusion at its finest!

[@overwatch761]

@@panda.7055 Delusion is believing numbers and marketing over reality my friend. For a natural HD image high end Plasma rules over all others, it will not be touched by OLED in terms of how natural it looks. OLED will always look processed, numbers is all the marketing experts have.

[@panda.7055]

@@overwatch761 OLED is much better than plasma, this is a fact

[@overwatch761]

@@panda.7055 No it isn't, but you are free to follow the masses. I have both a high end LG 2023 OLED and Pioneer KRP600 at home, the Pioneer is simply so much more natural when it comes to film in reality. I originally intended to use my new LG as my home theatre TV but after switching it on and watching I decided to put it in my kitchen instead. As I said I'm talking the most NATURAL/REALISTIC image quality in terms of motion, colour and blacks and contrast. OLED is of course better if you like a 'hyperstylised' better than reality instagramable image or 120Hz for gaming.

[@WebbstreMain]

My 15 year old plasma tv is only now starting to have burn in, so I started looking at new tvs in the past month. The energy usage and HEAT combined with the cost to make a 4k plasma model are what killed them off. The colors, brightness, and dark blacks don't appear to have been really matched until the most recent OLED/QD-OLED tvs, and honestly OLED coming along was a better technology to replace plasma than anything LED tvs have come out with. Also, your points seem very skewed to North America.

[@carlbeaver7112]

You wouldn't want a laptop with a plasma screen due to the power requirement. You can't find any other digital tech that can duplicate a plasma's ability to reproduce motion without some sort of annoyance. That is the #1 reason I'm hesitant to replace mine.

[@scanspeak00]

Same for me. Motion performance is still the benchmark for me.

[@vichysaho2135]

Mine is a LG 50 Hz 2004 model , it still views well even with a burn in that started in 2014 , we run all devices through it via a 4 port switch , so it doesn’t annoy us , if I narrow it down to the specific IC 😢

[@robertt9342]

Plasmas production of motion is partly a deficiency. If it were as bright as modern oled, it would suffer from the same issues it has.

[@frankdsilva5593]

Pannny VT60 owner here. Still love it and holds its own next to my LG C1

[@Stoddardian]

It's superior to a C1.

[@robertt9342]

@@Stoddardian…it’s really not… in many ways.

[@robertt9342]

What 400 watts isn’t efficient?😂

[@Stoddardian]

@@robertt9342 It is when it comes to motion clarity, color reproduction, warmth, uniformity, banding, building quality, etc.

[@MikJames-d1g]

Black levels on most plasma tv's weren't all that great compared to modern VA panel LCD's, and a far cry from mini led that's available now. Most of them could do ~3000-4000:1 contrast ratio. The black levels were also set at a specific value to ensure they operated properly, which means there was no purpose to the backlight/cell light control other than increasing brightness/contrast. The black levels were often quite high compared to the minimum backlight setting on LCD's, and you couldn't use as much bias light to enhance perceived contrast, as it would wash out the panel surface. The only plasmas really worth having were the Pioneer Kuro (second gen), and the last 2-3 generations of Panasonic (30-50-60 series), which could actually do 5000-6000:1, and over 10000:1 on the last models released (S60, St60, Vt60). Though many complained about the black level rising over the first few years of use. The main benefit wasn't so much contrast, as having a uniform image across the screen. You don't get that oil on water effect like you do with LCD when sitting in front of a large panel that fills your field of view. The main reason they failed is because 4k wasn't going to work without them going up in flames/insane power draw at 4k. The burn-in problem was highly exaggerated, just like it is on OLED. I'd still pickup a late gen Panasonic if you can find one at a good price, there's just something about that phosphor surface that gives them that "CRT look", without being bulky as heck, and the input lag is about as good as it gets for digital displays. People also complain about the dithering, but in most cases it handles content near black better than any SDR OLED, and potentially better than HDR OLED when the black level is set to 0 (gives that ink splotch effect). Of course you can get around it with some common sense, not setting brightness too low on an OLED.

[@robertcurtis3807]

My Samsung Plasma got my room hot in minutes even with the Air Conditioner on. I would always feel sickly too for unknown reasons.

[@dustin3302]

Ah you’ll live 😂

[@hellishtimber]

you were breathing in the plasmic vapours... 😨

[@James-eg3nf]

I have a 60” 2014 Samsung plasma “dumb” TV and even at 1080p, the picture looks so awesome, even comparing to my much newer LED 4k smart TV. I’ll be really sad the day it dies. Only display type I’ve seen that even comes close is OLED.

[@_Red_Hand_]

I bought 60 inch plasma TV today.... for 150 dollars. It's much better then my new LCD TV

[@justdev8965]

Planned obsolescence is just beyond evil. I hate it so much. Plasma TVs are unmatched. Even a $700 Plasma TV would blow out of the water any other TV technology.

[@cmfrtblynmb02]

This is not planned obsolescence. Plasma tv s are not phased out because they decided people should buy a newer model. The whole point of the video is explaining why they are dead.

[@misterlexx2721]

They were not economically viable. Too heavy leads higher shipping costs and ultimately much higher final price than LCD/LED. They consumed way more energy than LED TVs. People want to save on their energy bills. Quit the emotion , read more and understand.

[@Awayze]

I’ve got two Panasonic VT plasmas, and the heat they emit is noticeable. The rooms with the TV are warmer than other rooms in the house and you can feel the heat if a few inches away from them. Amazing picture quality though. They’ll do until OLED is cheaper.

[@Fudui2]

Agree, you can tell when you clean them. The water just evaporates off as you wipe. They put out some heat.

[@randysalsman6992]

Sorry, but OLED is never gonna get a whole lot cheaper then what it already is, it's just the way the tech works that prevents it.

[@WalterKnox]

It was pretty sad when we went from a variety of high quality plasma TVs to a bunch of cheap LCD TVs. I still have a few Plasma sets, and my main TV is a 2006 Panasinic 50 inch Viera set, and it still has a better picture than any LCD or LED set ever did or will. I find it strange that the majority of people who don't know about then will tell you that Plasma TVs were crappy, and didn't last long and that is why they quit making them. I don't know where that misconception came from. I would still rather have a plasma than any TV made today nomatter what technology it is. The Plasma set is made of such good quality components, with metal and thick glass. Not to mention discrete components on the boards that can be repaired, as opposed to everything being mostly ICs now. Even the high dollar sets are cheaply made with flimsy plastic. Even if the picture may be slightly better (which I still don't think it is), they won't last nearly as long. I would love to see one 10 years later that still works like it is brand new.

[@justdev8965]

Very well said. Humanity is severely dumb for discontinuing Plasmas.

[@joseaguirre744]

It all had to do with the high manufacturing costs of plasma tvs. Most people don’t want to pay 1k+ on a television.

[@WalterKnox]

@@joseaguirre744 That is mostly correct. People would rather pay $500 for junk that doesn't work as good or last as long than a little over twice that for something that will preform much better and last for decades. It is sad, but people want cheap disposable junk these days, so that is what is supplied. I don't see that issue becoming any less commonplace any time soon. The sad part is that for some reason everyone who isn't informed seems to think that Plasma TVs were somehow inferior to LCD. They also would rather spend the $500 on some new junk than spend under $100 on a used plasma set which pop up in thrift stores all the time, which will preform better and last longer because they wouldn't be caught dead with a TV that wasn't brand new, paper thin, and "smart."

[@misterlexx2721]

Plasmas were not economically viable. Plasmas were a niche product. As the young stated, they were much heavier than LCD/LED TVs which means higher shipping costs which lead to much higher final price. They brought on too much heat and consume much more electricity/energy. Stop your nonsense. I am happy it is dead. I don't need 3 men from a store to transport my tv to my home.

[@WalterKnox]

@@joseaguirre744 They commonly pay $1k or more on these flimsy OLED TVs which were not built anywhere near the standards of the old ones.

[@michael-4k4000]

The big issue was 4k, Plasma could do 4k but not even close to the price as LCD could do it, and 4k is and easy selling point over 2k or 1080p. My plasma is 720p 50" and I never worried about the pixels as I couldn't see them unless I was incredibly close to the TV. Plasma does get very hot, it's almost like a small heating unit, which is good in the winter and bad in the summer... my favorite tv ever was my LG oled. there is something about perfect black levels that just cant be beat. Perfect blacks make everything else POP out of the screen. When compared to an older edge lit LCD, there is simply no contest, OLED just blows it away. Now with QD_OLED, oled tv's are able to achieve 1,300 + nits with perfect black levels.

[@robertt9342]

If you can’t notice the pixels unless incredibly close on 720p 50”, the you might need to get your eyes checked. Even if you do not notice the pixels, you should definitely notice the lack of image detail. Plasmas died off before 4K was mainstream…

[@McFlyGuitarsandStuff]

Interesting video.. My Panasonic plasma is 12 years old and still going strong. I put it in my bedroom a few years ago when I replaced it in the living room.

[@happybaals]

I also miss that my plasma doubled as a space heater and you'd have to invite a buddy over if you wanted to move it.

[@johnyvico]

My Lg plasma is 13 years old and going strong

[@randysalsman6992]

LG plasma. Gross.

[@fuzzypanda1684]

Plasma was way better than LED. No light bleed, no hot spots, no muddy blacks. The only cons of plasma was their weight and potential for burn in.

[@randysalsman6992]

Think you mean LCD. LED is just the lighting used in the LCD so you'll get an image. The better way of saying it would be LED/LCD, unless you actually meant an LED display but I don't think you did. An actual LED display is made of an image intirely made up of LED's, like no screen like we have on TV's, just a whole bunch of little lights that at a distance just gives an image. You might have seen them on building in a city rather real life or on a show. They're normally big billboards or something along the line, where you want a huge image for people to see but you don't want it to cost millions that a huge TV like display would cost at such a large scale. It works for such a big image and at a good distance, so you don't see the individual LED's, but would never work in a small scale and seen at a close distance because then it'd just look like one of those lite-brite toys we had as kids. lol

[@MTRX2011]

I'll always like CRT the best, but plasma was nice. going through early led days was painful. they were so flat and full. the OLED is nice. good blacks and crispy colors.

[@2kBofFun]

CRT only works well on very limited content, and it has serious geometry issues. Plasma fixes all the flaws of CRT's, can't think of anything a CRT does better than a plasma, except for displaying composite video signals.

[@necrodh]

nowadaysIPS are getting better, for oldschool videogames those look even better than a crt

[@randysalsman6992]

Think you meant LCD, LED was just the lighting used to light up the image. You should have wrote, LED/LCD.

[@stanTrX]

Theres flickering on the led decoration on the wall. Anyway i have lg plasma which is now 10 yo and full of burn-ins as well as it keeps turning off and on itself, time to time

[@Stoddardian]

No mention of motion resolution? The reason why plasmas were smoother than LCDs/LEDs, and even OLEDs, is because it was an impulse display instead of sample and hold. The 600Hz subfield on my Panasonic plasma actually had a refresh rate of 60Hz, meaning the image flashes 600 times per second giving it almost perfectly smooth motion. The motion resolution was the same as the actual resolution. It had 1080 lines of motion. So 1080p in motion actually looks like 1080p when the image is still. OLEDs don't even come close to this. An OLED at 1080p looks like 300p in motion, so the image blurs significantly. This is substantially worse at 4K, which is just overhyped nonsense. 4K is only 4K when the image is still. The moment you move the image it's no longer 4K, it's not even 720p for God's sake. How is that great picture quality? And I haven't even mentioned low frame rate content on an OLED. A 30 FPS game on my plasma looked like 120 FPS. On an OLED 30 FPS looks like...well...30 FPS, meaning it stutters like crazy. So at the end of the day, plasma is still superior. Is OLED better than LCD/LED? Absolutely. Is it better than plasma? Absolutely NOT!

[@randysalsman6992]

Not sure you actually understand that of what you're talking about. Like the subfield, it doesn't flash images 600 times per second, what it does is the image is broken up to 10 "subfield" images which each is 60hz or flashes it's part of the whole image 60 times per second. So each of the 10 subfield images flashing at 60hz makes that 600hz they used for the marketing, but really the TV is still only 60hz, it's just that a 10% of an image is easier to make look good and work well flashing 60 times per second then it is trying to do that to the whole image so hence why it works and looks better doing it that way. The whole 600hz thing was a lie though just like the whole 120hz, 240, 480hz that LCD's use to do a lot back in them day's but all were still really only 60hz displays. Now though you actually can and do get displays, raither LCD or OLED/QDOLED, that are true 120hz/144hz displays and soon we'll be getting 240hz.

[@Stoddardian]

@@randysalsman6992 You're right, but 120Hz still doesn't look as good in motion as a plasma. A plasma has around 4ms of persistence. The very best ones went as low as 1.8ms. 120fps@120Hz has 8ms of persistence.

[@floz9718]

Interesting video. Wasn't one of the biggest reasons for Plasma TVs to disappear the push to 4K resolution and they couldn't produce Plasmas with such a small PPI, kinda like the problem of current Micro LED?

[@davefink2326]

Technically you are right. Plasma has minimum (and maximum) pixel size potential. Yet plasma withered away a few years before anyone was mass-producing 8k displays.

[@aetheralmeowstic2392]

_Me sitting in the corner with my 36" CRT_

[@xybervox]

Wonderful breakdown. Yea, I have Plasma and I live in a very hot and humid place. I have to make sure my air conditioner is on whenever I use the TV most of the year (centered around summer time). In winter time, it's really great because it acts as a space heater, very cozy. But I really love my Panasonic Viera plasma. Burn-in isn't much of a problem because the next change of burning will just fight that previous burn-in. I do refuse to watch the television station LAFF that has that logo which I have noticed is still burned-in to my TV many years later (but it's rare that I can see it, it takes a special combo of shades of dark and light to notice it at rare times, like a distant artifact popping in to say hello every few months somehow). I dread the day my plasma TV somehow dies, which doesn't seem to be in the near future. But by then, the technology should have caught up to it. I just watched a video on Sony's 2024 just-unveiled LED Bravia 9 that has this constant array display back-lit dimming tech (something like that involving mini-LEDs) - seems pretty cool and seems like it's close to plasma TV technology.

[@mikfalk8019]

I have 2 Panasonic vierra plasmas(52 inch I believe) Both great TVs, have lasted 13+ years this far. All of what you mentioned is true. Came here to confirm running costs. We recently bought a big led which is in kids lounge as they use TV more. I tend to watch stuff on my pc these days

[@2kBofFun]

You can't say it better, the average household TV energy use only increases, despite energy saving measures. That single 21 inch CRT that gathered us around in the eighties is still king when it comes to energy consumption: 30-40W and everybody watches the same content. Today both display size and split-viewing ruin any power savings by technology advancements.

[@Badgermyazz]

I'm watching you right now on my Panasonic Vera and you have a green hue.

[@joebass5163]

I have three plasmas. A 42" Sanyo from 2006, a 50" Panasonic ST60 from 2013 I paid about a $1000 for each new. And I bought a used Pioneer Elite Kuro 50" 110FD for $150 in 2020. All work great and no burn-in. I have never liked LCD picture quality and OLED is being superseded by QLED. I'll keep using them until they die and I'll try to repair them.

[@blueshattrick]

Dead? DON'T tell my Panasonic Viera in my living room.. still running absolutely *beautifully* 16 years purchase! haha

[@The.duck.that.likes.grapes]

By “dead” he means that most people don’t use it anymore

[@randysalsman6992]

​@@The.duck.that.likes.grapes Think he means they don't manufacture them or use the tech in todays TV market.

[@The.duck.that.likes.grapes]

@@randysalsman6992 no people just don’t use them

[@The.duck.that.likes.grapes]

As much anymore

[@Babblingboolean]

A little of both. Mainly that manufacturers don't make them. However, since they're not made anymore and current units die out so does the number of active units.

[@Fudui2]

Still have my 58 Samsung and 46 Panasonic. The Plasma makes a great Bedroom TV with its soft light but very clear image. TV response is great. My TV response test is Rock Band and Pinball FX. On an LCD tv you have to strum a split second before it hits the color bars and Pinball FX you have to flip the flipper just before ball comes into range. Plasma there is no delay. Even with the LCD game mode on. The negative is the Plasma can look gritty and gets hot. I have only had minor burn in issues with some games, News, and sport shows. Usually, a corner map in a game and the scroll bar on the TV shows. They have always gone away. Seems to happen after I get into football season or powering through a new game. The absolute best is the view angle. You can see the full image at 88 degrees with limited color loss. The majority of LCD's have color and image lost after shifting 30 degrees of center. Can't stand my newer 4k TV. It's such a bummer looking at washed out color and image if you're not in the perfect seat in the room. Plasmas like CRT's also feel like they project the picture out. While the LCD is a flat image that feel sunken into the screen. My old Sony HD 36-inch crt picture just pops out of the screen. Almost like it's a 40+ inch TV. The plasma is the same way. Almost like the projection of light adds 2 or more inches to the image. LCD and OLED are getting better. But the high-cost Premium TV's are just starting to sway me with their image. Then I look at the price then go vacuum the back of my Plasma.

[@Olando89]

Interesting. Thank you for this.

[@leonlamar8341]

Great video! Especially the part where you explained the higher costs to manufacture and the higher weight on shipping costs. However, all LCD, QLED & Micro-LED sets have major issues with the 'Soap Opera' affect. Even Tom Cruise has complained about this. It's so off-putting that I'm currently getting my 60" Samsung plasma repaired. LED technology is so inferior its not funny. There's no comparison on quality of picture. It's like being at the movie theater. When is the last time you experienced the 'soap opera' effect at the movie theater? That's right, never! I'd easily pay $5,000 for my current 60" plasma TV brand new. I may end up paying more for the repair than it was worth when I purchased new, but it'd be totally worth it.

[@_Red_Hand_]

Dude , you can buy good second hand 60 inch plasma tv for 100 - 200 dollars... I bought 1 today. 60 inch plasma from 2013 for 150 dollars...

[@aabsc]

Had too look up the soap opera effect and there's a setting to turn it off on virtually every TV that has it.

[@brotharobmusic]

I liked plasma but OLED is better by far and plasma didn't like video games at all, especially Nintendo consoles! Pictures burn in was very common back then.... BUTTTT I have experience a burn in with an LCD that my WIFE ruin! Basically she was playing gta5, paused the game and fell asleep. I was at wrk overnight. I got off that morning went straight home and it was on that same screen for atleast 7-9hrs

[@brotharobmusic]

@Γ ɐ ə ɘ ε β ɟ ɥ ɯ ɔ и ๏ ɹ ʁ no it wasn't, it was normal because we kept our home dark to keep it cool. Thick dark curtains. Couldn't tell if it was night or day

[@volvo24091]

Adults playing video games? Grow up.

[@NotTheGaslighter]

@@volvo24091 Adults watching movies or reading or playing games, even those off a screen like D&D or chess? i guess we're not allowed to have fun anymore, i'll get back to the coal mines then

[@randysalsman6992]

You do know that that is a old wives' tale. lol It was only told to scare the kids in playing their games on their parents TV and apparently some people actually fell for it, and you're one of them. lol The truth is, a TV doesn't care what you install upto it to watch (or play) because for one it can't tell what it was installed to it and two, it's all just an image. How anyone actually think that a video game can hurt a TV when all it's doing is the same thing your cable/satalite box, or your vcr or dvd/blu-ray/4K blu-ray player is doing, showing an image. Any and all differences takes place in the device hooked to the TV and not the TV itself. You leave a still image from any device long enough you can experiance burn in, it's just faster on a plasma and OLED but it can still happen on a CRT or LCD, the latter taking the longest. Also the fact that burn-in is faster on plasma and OLED, doesn't mean it's so fast and easy to happen that you need to basically babysit your display. On todays OLED's and the latter half of plasma's, the only way you're gonna experience burn-in is if you are purposely trying to do it and even then you're gonna have to leave it on a still image, make sure the screen saver is turned off and your TV's brightness is cranked, and then go on vacation for a month and leave the TV just like that when you do. Even in that scenario you might only get image retention and not really burn-in, so yeah. If you're still worried about getting burn-in during normal use then it's all just in your head, cause it ain't the TV. lol

[@mdogzino]

Your mispronunciation of the word "susceptible" is very cute & endearing.

[@da900smoove1]

i have a 42in and 60in plasma tv's and itis simply hard to beat the picture quality i get from source material feeds esp bluray disc or Directv

[@CaseyWilkesmusic]

“Let’s go get a beer.” “Eh, every bar around here has old plasmas with burn in. Let’s try the town over.”

[@TheLordbal]

I've been using the dp42740 42" plasma tv by Sanyo as my pc monitor since 2011 and it has never failed me ;)

[@Nordestada]

I’m still using my 2009 54” 1080 Panasonic plasma tv and I am having a really hard time getting rid of it, or maybe move it to a guess room. The one and only reason I am even thinking about it, is because of the energy it consumes compared with newer LED TVs. Other than that … this Panasonic has, and is being, a great reliable TV. In fact, I’m watching you great videos on it as type this comment.

[@xxmadboyxx]

great video, I learn so much every time I watch one of your videos.. one question though in terms of the black color, which is better plasma Tv or LED/LCD Tv with HDR

[@2kBofFun]

In a well lit room, nothing beats the black level of a CCFL VA LCD TV. Plasma tubes and modern LED TV's are too shiny, and HDR/local dimming is a hoax.

[@TranceCore3]

OLED and OLED variants are the best, because in order to achieve black, it just turns the pixel completely off, no light no anything. Running dark mode on OLED panels end up just making more sense in the long run.

[@jees3474]

7:29 suspectable? You mean susceptible?

[@macgoryeo]

I don't know why you need high refresh rates for movies which are usually in 24p or 25/ 30fps. I always disable frame interpolation because for me it looks fake and too smooth

[@Babblingboolean]

If only more content was filmed in 48fps or 60fps. At first it looks to be moving too fast but you adjust quickly as it's a more natural and realistic video, then switching to 30 fps (or less) looks choppy. It's why I always record in 60fps. Also consider high refresh rate and fps for gamers (consoles and PC).

[@lightisgreaterthandarkness]

I finally found a display that LEGITIMATELY destroys my Pioneer Pro 111FD Elite. I got a hands on with the SONY Bravia XR48A90K Master Series 4K OLED and fully calibrated it. I'm still recovering from a broken jaw when my jaw hit the floor! NEVER have I seen black levels more black, better contrast or more pristine white levels than this Master series OLED! I even shaved off 2 inches when I went from the Kuro Elite 50 to my OLED 48"... So worth it! I'm actually kinda glad plasma is dead. They were resource hogs when it came to electrical consumption, some panels reaching up to 600 watts during peak output! While the OLED isn't as energy star compliant as say an led lcd, it is still 60% less power than plasma. There's so much to say about the new 2022 OLED tech! It truly put a fitting end to a once great technology! But alas! We finally have what the videophile community has been searching for!

[@WalterKnox]

Come back in 15 years when that set has been replaced multiple times due to failing, and my Panasonic TH-50PX60U is still working as good as it did the day it was made.

[@2kBofFun]

When your Bravia is planned obsolete because of its horrible software, and suffers from burn in problems and OLED wear, by 2010 Bravia will still be as good as new. What software does it run? Android TV? Fingers crossed for the moment it becomes an IOT zombie device.

[@the_motherfucker]

@@WalterKnox Electronics now are the same quality they've always been, especially if we're only talking 10-15 years back. I bet you have no evidence of electronics becoming worse quality in that short time period. You aren't even giving them a chance to last as long. When Plasmas were new, people said the same thing, that they were poor quality, and that CRTs were better

[@randysalsman6992]

@@WalterKnox Say you don't know what you're talking about without saying you don't know what you're talking about.

[@randysalsman6992]

Not sure why you would go smaller, even if it was only 2 inces when what you should have done is buy big as you can get. 75 inch is the sweetspot for a great bedroom TV or 65 inch if that's all you can afford or your bedroom is extra small. For the livingroom, if only a person could get like a 120 inch and at a good price, but neither of those 2 things are a thing. lol So go with a 75 inch minimum but prefably larger. Either way though, you made the right choice in getting an OLED, but the OLED you're talking about isn't a Master Series, not sure why you thought it was. Also, you should have got yourself a QD-OLED if your were going OLED, it's just the supierior tech, I myself got a Samsung 65" s90c and I love it. I also have 2 Alienware 34" ultrawide QD-OLED monitors that I got before the TV, one is for me and the other was for my daughters PC build. The monitors QD-OLED panels are the same generation that the TV has and it's great even though it's the first gen of panels. The only real difference is that the panels in the monitors are the same ones used for Samsungs first generation QD-OLED TV, the s90b and my TV is their second generation QD-OLED TV, it's just that if you don't get the 75" then it's a gamble if your TV will have the 1st or 2nd generation QD-OLED panel in it. Raither the TV was the 1st or 2nd gen don't really matter because the 1st gen was improved on by the teck in the 2nd gen TV and the 2nd gen QD-OLED panel was dumed down by the TV to match the 1st gen panel and you only get the full performance of the 2nd gen panel if you go with thw s95c instead of the s90c. So with this fact, both my monitors and my TV (besides the size and aspect ratio) look and preform almost the same. The only real difference between the s90b and s90c with a first gen panel is the build quality and a little brightness.

[@Max_Mustermann]

9:08 - ironically, some very early laptops used monochromatic plasma screens

[@enriquedossantos3283]

I have a Pioneer Kuro from 2008 and a 42 inch Samsung from 2007 both are still alive and kicking and they wipe the floor with all LCD/LED ever launched, up until OLED tech came around those TVs where my main everyday TVs wich is weird that they where over 10yo at that point, i know replaced them with OLED based TVs but i still have them one in my kid room and the other in the basement in my retro gaming setup

[@Marylandbluecrabs]

Someone gave me a 42" plasma panasonic TV 2 weeks ago, I have on my garage wall and it has a awesome picture.

[@ArKay-nj2nh]

My 5 Plasmas are doing fine. I've always heard of Burn In, but none of mine have it after daily use for years. I've even got the last Gen. KURO, 2009. ( Still mounted on my living room wall ) 59" Samsung used daily for 10 Years with a computer and was used when I got it. Main reason Plasmas stopped being built is most probably expense, the Engineers wanted to continue making and improving them. ( ask a Pioneer employee ) Keep it up, lets pretend Plasmas are bad, that will keep the prices down. Oh, you could also complain they're heavy, because they're built like a tank, high quality parts, steel, aluminum and glass. Also, newer Tv's are easier to throw in the Trash .

[@TheGigantium]

I still have my 2010 Panasonic VIERA HD Plasma TV and it still plays like new.

[@shadykitty7493]

my friend had a plazma tv

[@withindistruction54]

Still have my Samsung plasma tv from 2009. It heats up the room and made my Xbox 360 overheat back when it was the newest console from Microsoft. It started having problems after an earthquake. It didn’t fall or anything hit it. If it’s on channel 10 it won’t switch to the next channel. Side buttons don’t work sometimes. I want to replace it as it heats up the room.

[@mexdrago3009]

My brother in law had a Panasonic plasma but it kept breaking. I loved playing games on them but the burn in I saw from people's tvs didn't make me want to buy one.

[@ben14326]

I have a 13 year old plasma with 42,000 hours on it. Mainly used for gaming and I have 0 burn in. Pixel shift technology pretty much solved that issue.

[@mexdrago3009]

@Ben Smith Pixal shift should have been advertised. It's too bad because movies looked great, too.

[@leotimtom6637]

Actually plasma draws about 7-8 more power than LED. Led draws at least 3 times less than LCD.

[@2kBofFun]

But LED has horrible colour reproduction. I have a professional NEC GBr LED monitor, that shows LED can be nice, but this tech has never made it into TV's. CCFL has a cosy white quality and great gamut, unmatched by LED. As most CCFL TV's are smaller, the benefit of the 50% energy saving are lost. A 40" CCFL uses less than a 65" LED. Just get a smaller couch or reading goggles and you will have the same view size. Grab a Bravia W5500 model (20-40 bucks nowadays) and you will understand.

[@Dingleberry1856]

Still running a Samsung plasma 15yrs on

[@ArtbyLuke]

7:25 Susceptible, not suspectable.

[@FireChicken747]

I would say the final nail in the coffin for plasma tvs was Oled. Oled tvs are just in a different league of their own

[@handsomeblackman255]

Don't they burn images if you leave a game on pause too long???

[@kensuiki6791]

can't wait for backlit technology to die

[@2kBofFun]

It won't. Backlit = no burn-in. Enough applications to benefit from that. You can swap an LCD backlight, and the panel is basically as new.

[@kerkurgel]

in addition to or because of heat it produces, plasma is prone to humidity and it will cause damage to the circuits

[@SuperSy99]

i have 10 years old samsung plasma still rocks.our led tv broke every 3 years.and plasma has more natural pic and motion

[@tomasinacovell4293]

Yeah, but "stores" aren't the main sellers for plasma, and inch for inch plasma's are 5 to 6 times the cost easily.

[@johnmcevoy3598]

If you opened up a typical LCD set, you'd be horrified at the build quality. It certainly explains why they're so cheap. Paper-thin backlight power ribbon connectors wrapped 270 degrees around aluminum square stock. Seriously? Don't even bump these things. They are fragile as glass.

[@backinthegame34]

He forgot colour and motion resolution. The main reason was cost to manufacture and power usage which irks the climate changers.

[@shioq.]

dark black images matter ✊

[@chadversansky6439]

back in like 2004-2006 my friends and I paused star wars at like 3 am to go to bed and finish it the next day. Welp Mace Windu's light saber was burnt into my buddies plasma screen tv. His dad was pissed!

[@HarryPotterNtheCurseChild]

Still have to say my sharp aqueous has an amazing image after many years

[@KidKash-p4c]

But i noticed in Plasma its pixels...i don't know

[@stanTrX]

8:43 objection, it happens at home very easily, too.

[@raylopez9456]

What if I used my plasma tv and only use it to hook it up to my PlayStation is that better than an led lcd tv for refresh rates and frame rate ??

[@thestreaker4635]

Plasma has better refresh rate

[@neomaxmlc]

Plasmas can only operate at 60fps. If your LED is 120hz then the plasma will probably have a slower response time. However, plasma TVs have much better motion clarity so things that move fast on the screen will look sharper and smoother. LEDs still have a bit of a ghosting issue with fast moving things so it looks noticeably blurrier.

[@Babblingboolean]

PS4 games have a cap of 60fps (some only 30fps) so the high plasma refresh rate might not make a big difference. The other thing to consider is that newer LED technology have better predictive technology than plasma which compensates for less refresh rate than plasma. It all comes down to other factors of the tv technology. Easy answer? Just try it and see what happens lol. If you like the result then leave it connected.

[@jees3474]

@@neomaxmlcsome last gen plasma tvs can support 120hz

[@kapiczu3776]

most plasma tv's had fans which you can swap for Noctua *wink*

[@mksii]

OLEDs came around and just did everything better. Old used plasmas are still great if you want relatively good picture quality for cheap, just watch out for burn in, and not accidentally burning down your house lol.

[@Whitehaar]

Dark Knight...Day Knight...Day Man...Charlie Kelly is Batman!!!

[@James-eg3nf]

*Susceptible

[@michael-4k4000]

THIS IS AN EXCELLENT VIDEO! My Plasma is still working great, not DEAD at all....... Have a Pioneer Plasma, one of the best looking TV's still in today's time. Wish Pioneer would make TV's again, they made amazing TV.s Wish they would make PLASMA again..... imagine a plasma iPhone???

[@jonathanzappala]

That’s a cool shirt. I’m thinking of selling mine because it doesn’t have an arc hdmi and it’s only 720, and non smart. 10 years ago though 720 was all I needed. I bought mine because it looked better than the one next to it in the store actually. Only two competitors then in my size and desired price.

[@paran0ia7]

I think a lot of the hate that modern televisions receive from enthusiasts is more about signal processing "features" than it is the display technology itself. Anyone that thinks the very best plasma or CRT can even come close to an OLED display of a similar adjusted price in terms of raw image quality is just delusional; it's all the junk between the input and the panel that deserves the disdain. What fancy new TVs really need is a truly "dumb" mode, or a complete bypass of every single circuit not absolutely mandatory for image display, and I think the conversation would be very different.

[@derekdavies7374]

I still love gaming on a plasma tv picture is so much better

[@rahsillyyoo]

Qled is better than plasma

[@hangug_gamja]

Plasmas are not dead. I'm watching on a Pioneer 5090H 😉 And there is a Panasonic VT-50 in another room 😀

[@robertt9342]

You mean dark deep greys

[@david-y9n5t]

J ai un st60 et G20 panasonic , ils ont une qualité d image superbe!!! un plasma est moins flatteur a l oeil mais tellement naturel!!!!!!!! mieux qu un led

[@ike09progamer136]

To bad new tv's don't last as long though😢

[@2kBofFun]

The main reason plasma is not dead, is that it is from an era around 2010 that companies still cared about crafting decent built products and earned money from it. It's a niche, but the advances go beyond display tech. The main reason I never will buy an OLED TV is not the praised picture quality (whuch still has issues, like bad colour gamut in bright scenes), but it is software that ruins the experience, and the loathable built quality because no money is made from the TV itself! You can't buy a proper OLED TV as dumb as a plasma/LCD that earns the company a decent 20% profit. Plasma's are hard to find though, that is why I swear by CCFL LCD, the second best tech. Good VA panels have every bit as good blacks as OLED, and because the coating is not as shiny, it might look even better as that lava lamp behind you does not mirror in the CCFL LCD. But best about CCFL LCD is unmatched uniformity over long time and tons of inputs. No other TV holds up that well with 30000 hours of viewing. In 2010 nobody talked about dirty screen effect as it was no issue back then with much higher quality production standards. CCFL LCD is also the cheapest right now, so grab one before it becomes CRT sought after.

[@stevenx399]

Where the hell do you get a CCFL

[@2kBofFun]

@@stevenx399 Just put a search query on one of your favourite classified sites. For example a Bravia W5500 series TV, those are unbeatable, and make a fool of current LED models.

[@the_motherfucker]

Electronics are the same quality as they've always been, especially if only talking 10-15 years back. Companies didn't just suddenly change within that short time period. There are still a ton without built-in software, and even if you have one that does, it's just the same thing as a streaming device but built-in, and you can easily just not use it. Come back when you actually know what you're talking about

[@FuIIDiveVR]

Plasma died because people are cheap. The economy tanked at the end of plasma for Pioneer in 2009 and Panasonic and Samsung also followed 3-4 years later. Marketing also played a big role by pushing "thin = better design" and "4K > 1080p".

[@2kBofFun]

Look at the female magazine section in the grocery store: many of the subject titles on the cover have large numbers in them. Lots of digits sell, until it is a 4 figure price tag for quality. Pure marketing.

[@ryans413]

Plasma wasn’t all great my guy. The sets were heavy the gas overtime couldn’t charge the pixels as bright so the picture would start to look dim the TVs sucked your power and raked up your power bill. They also ran hot very hot the higher end models required fans and big heatsinks. Once LED sets hit the market with local dimming zones it was over for Plasma because now you had a lighter brighter tv.

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

Most plasma TVs didn't have deep blacks.

[@maryjohn1034]

Hey don't be rude

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Those damn things would interfere with every AM radio within a 500 mile radius.

[@alfredocuomo1546]

Funny I still have the same conversations with my son why I don't replace my 55" Panasonic Plasma TV, as I say to him his Oled may look better with 4k HDR video content but how much of that content is available on cable or Streaming & if it is a lot of it is AI upscaled which has it's own issues. But watching sports the Plasma still in the winners circle especially at night in my bedroom with the lights out.

[@gaylelund9287]

give up!If you still have a plasma you will run it to the end. nice blacks. a not so over bright. never lose the picture at a bad angle live in north dakota never that hot! so its plasma to the end.

[@randysalsman6992]

This guy talks about TV's and their tech just like someone who thinks he knows what he's talking about but really doesn't. Like within the first minute alone, there was so much of what he said that was just plain wrong. All this does, putting out video's with false information is make more people that think they know how things are the way they are and either spread that false information even further or they end up talking to someone who actually knows the true info on the topic and either embarrass the person who thought he knew what he was talking about or it will put doubt in the mind of the person understands the topic and he'll end up walking away second guessing his own understanding which is never a good thing.

[@necrodh]

because people want cheap average things, period, i still rocking a fujitsu tv and a panasonic plasma tv, no led, ips, or oled still can match that "3D like" image

[@Datacorrupter234]

plasmas do not get burn in it seems to be utter lies. ive been gaming on my panasonic plasma for 16 years straight and there has been zero burn in. temporary image retention yes but then it fades away and never actually stays unlike an oled. i left my ps4 playing a loop on youtube for several days straight at one point and that didnt produce burn in either

[@Datacorrupter234]

i have 93 days cumulative time online on gta5 why didnt the menu burn in? i probably have even more time than that on black ops1 and never produced any retention. what gives 🤷‍♂️

[@ElHipokondriako]

2:05 The man has absolutely no idea why deep blacks matter or what contrast ratio is

[@colclumper]

So glad this obsolete tech is over with

[@justincrossley1913]

I’m not I wanted to buy a new tv but I hate lcd led tvs and oled tvs and micro led won’t be out at affordable prices for years so I bought a 4K jvc front projector im still keeping my pioneer kuro 600m monitor for daily use

[@e8root]

How can you show your face and talk about topic where you have no idea what you are talking about?

[@davidbenning10]

😂

[@kitsinoel]

Oh my God I fell asleep. What did you talk about grannies you to put me to sleep

[@robertlake7444]

Good video, but I have to make a prediction. You got that tattoo when you were around 18, lol.

[@daddyalpha2648]

No plasmas arent dead 🙄 I have 3 panasonic plasmas 😉😂 one of them is even a 3D high end plasma with superb image and audio.

[@KidKash-p4c]

But i noticed in Plasma its pixels...i don't know