twelve o'clock high : S2E06 The Hotshot

Twelve O'Clock High is an American drama series set in World War II. This TV series originally broadcast on ABC-TV for two-and-one-half TV seasons from September 18, 1964, through January 13, 1967; was based on the motion picture Twelve O'Clock High (1949).

[@gerrygrzywinskl6135]

Love this show keeps it on you tube

[@Rusty_Gold85]

This explains the P51 Story quite well and how they didnt work well until the British Roll Royce engine was fitted

[@stinker43]

The P-51 actually used the Packard V-1650 version of the Merlin, an American engine built to Rolls-Royce design under license.

[@michaelburke5907]

Well, the P51 with the Allison engine was no slouch. Saw lots of action as fast air recon, ground attack and dive bomber. Fastest plane in the arsenal at low altitudes. The addition of the Merlin boosted high altitude performance and allowed the Mustang to become the long range escort fighter it became. Remember, the Brits were originally looking for pursuit aircraft, a different role altogether. The Packard built Merlin was continually improved upon by Packard and Rolls Royce engineers all throughout the later stages of the war. Kudos to all.

[@Nepthy66]

To be clear, the Merlin engine design, but optimized to turn it from a hand-tuned engine, to mass-produced reliable marvel by American corporations to a licensed Merlin design optimized for mass production, which added efficiency, reliability and consistency of build quality. 1000's versus 100's.

[@andrewallen9993]

@@Nepthy66 the Packard engines were made to far tighter tolerances to enable them to be assembled by unskilled labour. They consequently leaked less oil but were less reliable and produced less power than the British versions which were essentially blueprinted. Packard made 50% as many Merlin's in one factory as Rolls Royce made in three.

[@raywhitehead730]

The range capability of the P51 was mostly due to the ability and availability of drop tanks. Drop tanks were in short supply and were mostly allocated to the P51. However, the US had other fighters in theater that could have the escort range also! But they didn't get the drop tanks. The P 47 could have filled the roll, also. So the myth that the P51 was the only fighter with the range, just isn't so. American bombers were Not the only bombers that went as far as Berlin and back.

[@Nepthy66]

Not really, do more research.

[@rotax636nut5]

WO sure played the part well, completely believable

[@maureenorourke3292]

I had a thrill in 1989 in Chino, CA. where I met Elmer Ward and flew as a passenger sitting behind Elmer in his P51D Mustang. He strapped me in tight, told me I was wearing a parachute and gave me a list of instructions in case I would need to jump. The first big thrill was sitting at the beginning of the runway while he warmed up the engine by running it full blast for what seemed like 15 or 20 minutes....then zoom down the runway, up in the air and a tour of Orange County. I was surprised to see the MPH gage had a possible maximum of 436 mph. Elmer said it went a lot faster if chasing the enemy downward. He also said a new pilot cannot fly a P51 without having learned to fly two other specific single engine planes first. RIP Elmer. Thanks for my making my day.

[@1stinsonguy]

Lucky lady! Didn't get sick?

[@MrFloppy131]

knotts not MPH

[@johnnynoirman]

Warren Oates is always great!

[@johnrogan9420]

Warren Oates...very realistic...what a great actor!

[@watchgoose]

he could play anyone

[@johnrogan9420]

Give me 20 Warren Oates types any day!

[@billythekid3234]

@@watchgoose He played a great and the best John Dillinger, he looked a lot like him!

[@Nepthy66]

Sergeant Hulka in Stripes.

[@alanmaennche5680]

Great show I use to watch when I was a kid

[@kenkesler3087]

The P-51 initially was intended as a bomber escort...a close escort. This put a damper on the 51's capabilities and made it easier for the Germans to attack the bomber formations. The concept of close escort duty was (thankfully) abandoned in late '43 and the 51's were allowed to circulate at a greater height and slightly farther away. This proved to be far better and produced better results in terms of enemy fighters shot down. With the knowledge of the '51's superior performance, in early '44 the protection of the bombers became secondary. The primary objective became luring the Luftwaffe into battle to be decimated by superior numbers and better aircraft. This was intended to eliminate the Luftwaffe as a factor during the upcoming D-Day invasion. A graphic illustration of the effectiveness of this tactic was a statement made by a German officer to his men during the D-Day invasion. He said, "If you see white aircraft, they are American. If you see black aircraft, they are British. If you see NO aircraft, it is the Luftwaffe."

[@edwardtressel1953]

QUITE RIGHT!!! = D.E.T. (Baltimore /// Tuesday - August 8th, 2023) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luftwaffe en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me-109 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fw-190

[@rickguyer5236]

Actually there was only 1 squadron of P-51s in the ETO in 12/1943 and they were transferred from the 9th AF and Gen. Doolittle gave the fighters free reign to kill the Luft. but only when there were more squadron on P-51's in 1944

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Amazing history. Thank you for sending this!

[@johnrogan9420]

Oakes...at 46 minute mark...nastiest drunk in history...salute me!

[@kenjohnson6603]

I am damn glad that while I was in the USAF, there was a hell of lot more discipline than what I just watched!

[@watchgoose]

Our guys were fine at home, but over at Desert Storm they got in some squabbles due to not always being told the right info.

[@jstetzer01]

All of our Missile and gun crews had to pass visual Aircraft recognition/certification. We were Short Range Air Defense (SHORAD). We had Chaparral missile systems, 20 mm Vulcan gun systems and shoulder fired Stingers..We also employed our Forward Alerting RADAR systems (FAAR).. KOREA and Germany were a beast. Late 80's. I was an Electronic/Mechanical engineer. I worked on all the systems. In Korea we were always on alert. Everything was combat loaded.. We had 15 minutes to be out the gate. The CQ would open up the weapons racks and toss them to us as we running to the motor pool.

[@lennyhendricks4628]

another example of this series using the same actor in different roles on different episodes. In this one Jill Ireland is in uniform. In at least one other she is a civilian married to one of the guys in the 918th. Jack Lord also plays different characters in different episodes.

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

Yeah. Bruce Dern, Gary Lockwood and Tom Skerritt were another few I've seen several times - among others. There were a lot of young actors that were guests on this and other shows. Sometimes they'd have a major part and other times just a few lines. .

[@jimf5909]

You missed a mention of Jill Haworth. Jill of all roles in 12 O'CH.

[@eileensalimbene4264]

Same for Comanski character and Tom Skikert

[@lennyhendricks4628]

@@BobSmith-dk8nw - William Shatner had a guest appearance as a B-17 pilot in one episode. His STAR TREK co-star, Leonard Nimoy, had an appearance in COMBAT! He played a GI who could speak German when they captured a German field hospital.

[@Biffo1262]

Yet again the model of P51 changes in midflight with the same blasted pilot.

[@afish43]

Love the cameos of the p38s.

[@jeffyoung60]

Judging by the talk of the introduction of the P-51 Mustang, the time period of this episode must be around early summer of 1943. The Packard Merlin engine P-51B made its appearance at that time as an intended bomber escort fighter. The episode incorrectly shows later P-51D Mustangs, which appeared in 1944. The P-51B was a superlative aircraft that raised the bar for the USAAF and spelled the beginning of the end for the Luftwaffe fighter arm. But the P-51B harbored a drawback. It's wings were too thin so the four 0.50 cal. machine guns were mounted in the wing at a canted angle. This caused awkward feeding of the 0.50 cal. cartridges and during hi-G maneuvers the guns often jammed. The problem was significantly ameliorated when armorers installed tiny motors designed for B-26 Marauder medium bombers machine guns onto the P-51B machine guns to feed the linked cartridges into the guns. This mostly correctly the problem but did not make it go away completely. The successor P-51D solved that problem completely with thicker wings so that its six machine guns were mounted upright, allowing for proper cartridge feed even during high-speed fighter maneuvers.

[@jstetzer01]

Thank you Mr. Artiste. I"m a technology aficionado. Spent my time in the US Army as an Air Defense Artillery technician. I worked on missile systems, gun system and RADAR'S. My last five years were with PATRIOT including two deployments. I taught at the US Army Air Defense Artillery School. Teaching "ADC4I". Air Defense Artillery Command, Control, Computers and Intelligence. Basically how they work and how we link them together.

[@edwardtressel1953]

APPRECIATED & LEARNED FROM BOTH YOUR COMMENTS & EXPERTISE!! SEE ALSO MY EARLIER ABOVE COMMENTS & CITATIONS / REFERRALS ABOUT THE WAR PLANES & WW2 CAMPAIGN ELSEWHERE ON THIS THREAD FROM "WIKIPEDIA" ENTRY ARTICLES WHICH PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INTERESTING INFORMATION!! = D.E.T. (Baltimore /// Tuesday - August 8th, 2023)

[@billythekid3234]

@@jstetzer01 Sir ty for your service!

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Appreciated! Thank you.

[@kmaassociates7999]

00:21:55 ish. When the order came down to use fighter aircraft primarily to destroy ground targets, that turned out to be a slight problem in the long run. Thus are the fortunes of war. The Allies really could have taken the pressure off of the incredibly long supply lines if they could have put the railroads to good use . . . meaning if there had been more functioning locomotive engines left !

[@johnrogan9420]

Love Burke's fake phone calls.

[@BeagJohn]

That flying through the open hanger shot was done by the great Paul Mantz in his P-26

[@spacepatrolman]

7:33 Too bad William Holdens brother and Dick Clarks brother were P-51 pilots that were killed in WW2

[@rodfirefighter8341]

Thoughts and prayers, as always. Thoughts and prayers for them and they their families. Much respect!

[@victorthorpe3369]

My father was a radio gunner in a 17. Fortunatly he got transferred to KRYPTO, and never flew in combat. Stayed in the cointrol tower. Many of his cousins died. They survuved the depression and WW2. What a sad testimony my kids and grandkids are libtard snowflakes needing a safe space to hide in. Casualties of a failed gov't schooling

[@RogueAce93]

Anyone else feel like they were born in the wrong era?

[@TheFishdoctor1952]

@@victorthorpe3369 Just be thankful WW3 is not here yet.We do have a few good men, but we don't have what it takes in today's society to come out w winner.

[@richardleonhardt8440]

I love all the series and the people in it

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Thank you for the kudo. Me too!

[@bbb8182]

I loved this stuff as a boy but at 63 I think of something I heard recently. That WWII was the worst thing that ever happened.

[@A_10_PaAng_111]

Sgt Hulka was a P51 pilot before he became a drill sergeant.

[@jeffyoung60]

I've watched Season 2 and 3 thus far. It seems Colonel Gallagher in every episode must deal with bruised egos, chips-on-shoulders. prideful personalities, and guys with emotional hang-ups, sometimes guys with some mental and psych issues. This tv show will convince anyone that leading people has to be one of the worst jobs to take. I should know. I've been a supervisor several times and leading people does suck. You often feel like a surrogate parent dealing with child tantrums from adults. No one seems to utilize their logic and reasoning capabilities. With everyone they think and act with egos, feelings, and emotions.

[@watchgoose]

they all come from one place - the human race.

[@edwardgoering1237]

The military breeds good leaders ! I got a Meritorius Mass for Training new Personel Troubledhooting F-4's airframes Hydrualics on JFK Carrier one yr to date after Med cruise CV-59 USS Forrestal Warren Oats also HarryDean Stanton 1981 Later C.W Wright

[@maryeverling8238]

It’s called the human equation… such is life

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Wow. Much food for thought. Thank you.

[@jeffyoung60]

I would have to say, with respect, that no, you are not a true leader in the sense. You are a trained, qualified, and certified technical instructor. No doubt you are very good at what you do. But your responsibility is limited to just teaching a small group of people every day for an hour or more. Try being their company commander where you're responsible for everything they do, right or incorrectly, how they do it, how they conduct themselves in the military, their personal problems and emotions and hang ups. When they screw up you're called upon to explain what happened. Try being a civilian company supervisor where you have almost no power over them but are responsible for their work productivity and output. You have to deal with them with they show up at work with their personal and petty problems that affect their job performance. You have to deal with employees in their 30s, 40s, and 50s acting out their tantrums as if they were 13 years old, expecting you to play mommy and daddy and kindergarten teacher, which is exactly what Human Resources expects you to do. Good luck with that.

[@videomaniac108]

A note on historical accuracy: assuming that this episode took place in mid to late 1943, the german Messerschmitts would have been the Bf 109Gs, not the Bf 109Es shown here. At this time the Mustang being flown was the P 51B or C, not the D model with the teardrop canopy. That model appeared later, in mid 1944.

[@matrox]

You are right.

[@RobertoLopez-zr7dk]

Another note on historical accuracy: the Mustangs flying in formation at 4:18 and about to rendezvous with the b-17's have postwar USAF markings. The military aviation service of the United States of America during and immediately after World War II was the Army air forces. Remember that the USAF was formed as a separate branch of the military on September 18, 1947

[@pjzdreamz]

Roberto Lopez My uncle was crewman aboard the 17's. We all wish they had taken this show and others more seriously from a historical perspective,. They warned us then that Hollywood isn't known for that. . . Damn it. HE and his brothers had more than just a few bones to pick with them over accuracy.

[@JCfromDC2]

a sop to the limited amount of actual footage available. You see lotsa that on this show. A "D" model suddenly becomes a B or a C when the angle changes. P-47 wing shot used as enemy fire closeup, etc. But so what? Still a good show. Better when Gen. Savage was the leader. Now That was all about SPONSORS and audience appeal.

[@russg1801]

Getting the combat footage to match the timeline wasn't even a consideration. Look how they mangled basic elements of military doctrine and discipline. The show was just another cheesy "QM Production" cranked out to fill airtime. ABC at the time wasn't known for quality of their content.

[@dkoz8321]

Have Mustang pilots fly as waist and turret gunners on training hop or one or two operational missions. Too bad that roles cannot be reversed, but it would give pilots some context as to whats its like being a B-17 gunner.

[@paulgerald7682]

P-51 B ,C , and the D model . Long range tanks ,to Berlin and back . On shuttle missions one way . On the return ,the 15th A. F. , U. S. A. A . F. ,North Africa , Italy . Thank you .

[@BeagJohn]

The first thing i'll do after I win the lottery is get checked out in a P-51. What a gorgeous airplane!

[@mmccarrell]

These great actors smoked themselves to death literally.

[@russg1801]

Yeah, any time the script writer wanted to make a scene more melodramatic , the character would like up a coffin nail! Then you knew he was serious!

[@KCOliver1960]

Mark McCarrell The show was also originally sponsored by a cigarette company so the actors had to light up in a lot of scenes.

[@jllrue]

You really think smoking pot won't cause harm to your lungs, wait and see!

[@paulgerald7682]

This series is the equivalent of Combat . The difference is the air war . The under lying topic is management and discipline . In the most catastrophic time the ground and air war 1940 to 1945. To keep the bomb group or the squad or platoon intact , keep morale high . Command respect of your personal . May be it has to be earned ,sometimes .

[@Gwaithmir]

Warren Oates was a great actor who died too young.

[@michae8jackson378]

Lighten up Francis! That's all I could think about every time I saw the Lt Col!

[@matrox]

That was a pretty site at 38 min. in of the P-38s leaving.

[@9johnpaul]

Better one was in an episode of Black Sheep Squadron.

[@stinker43]

Well, they mixed up P-51B/C's with D's, but I suppose they did the best they could with the combat footage they had to work with. Also some mixing with B-17F and G's. But I would guess the coordination and ID problems with B-17s and P-51s were something like this.

[@theresadelicot5104]

I love seeing those P 51'S......

[@artybarra6054]

Same planes and bombers , but different types. But all the same, Great show!

[@screechowl75]

Warren Oates a great character actor..

[@stinker43]

At 7:35, the wing showing the 6 MGs firing is the wing of a P-51.!

[@imjusttoodissgusted5620]

My mom was from Saarbrucken, she told me that Patton blew out the corner of the house, after the war my grandmother, a nurse, washed GI laundry in exchange for soap, which she traded for building material to repair her home.

[@brianboneslee]

I love the episode but no one covered bombers like the Tuskegee Airman! Would have been nice to see that!

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

A nod to them, sort of, in the 3rd season episode "Graveyard".

[@pjzdreamz]

I'm really sorry my Uncle isn't with us any more to ask, but weren't bombers RETURNING with a full complement of bombs due to a malfunction (especially electrical ones) treated with kid gloves ? Most times he and his brothers didn't even watch these programs unless we started asking questions.

[@Kimdino1]

I hope the blonde English woman, Fay, has no aspiration ever to be a navigator. Bournemouth is nowhere near Brighton, they are a long way apart.

Yes, but she has great legs!

[@caseyjones7404]

one of the best episodes

[@seegurke93]

OMG those P51s are so new to the war that... oh never mind, they already used some in the first series.... remember the guy that bombed the dam?.. totally inconsequent series.

From the comments, there are a lot of "armchair warriors" out there!

[@johnrogan9420]

18:00.. Jill Ireland!

[@SOffenbach]

I see one Colonel and one Lt. Colonel. The Lt. Colonel has a mouth big enough to fit a B-17.

[@mikemajoris8283]

5:29 - Wait a minute... This B17 must be flying sideways because the flak is going across the nose of the plane when it should be coming directly at it! Oh Colonel Gallagher... Is there nothing you can’t do?

[@leeadams5941]

Interesting take on covering the bombers...when you can look back knowing Jimmy Doolittle changed the whole thing a year or so later when he took over the 8th

[@robertnegron9706]

Yes you are right. He lured the German fighters away before they could attack us bombers.

[@pjzdreamz]

...and no sooner does the fighter pilot leave the room with orders NOT to talk to anyone, he's out their mouthing off ... What An Idiot . . . and yes, they do exist.

[@johnrogan9420]

Oakes is being Oakes!

[@johnrogan9420]

Faye at 28:00...burke...what a loser!

[@rodfirefighter8341]

Operational security is usually the most easily lost and hardest to keep!?

[@dysfunctional_vet]

no soldier/sailor of honor rejoices at the death of another, even with the sword on the hand ready to kill. to end war for all, and end hostility and hatred is true victory. i counted 3 down, not two. i know a pilot that tried to bail out of a disabled ww2 air craft. he suffered spinal injuries from the wind. war is hell, never never forget

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Thank you. I never knew about that kind of injury....

[@LazlosPlane]

Haworth sounds just like Joan Collins!

[@angelaberry3018]

Warren Oates from Return of the Magnificent seven.

[@williambrownlee4534]

Warren Oates ...who could have guessed . ...

[@willdrucker4291]

wow Jill Ireland bfore she met and married Charles Bronson

[@IdiotsBeware1]

When she was still married to David McCallum.

[@williamstraughan6385]

we need out military to be strong like that today and the government stay the hell out of it

[@1stinsonguy]

Lt. Col. Troper, there's a big difference between an Ace and a loose cannon.

[@dickyfisher9249]

Wish i could name the Episode. In one the B17 turned into a B29 when they showed the bomb drop. Then back to a 17 when they went to cockpit scene.

[@mondonico2010]

Yea. I saw that too. I may have commented on it but can't remember which episode.

[@lspipefitter]

how cares abought all the facts damn fine show

[@ashdane1000]

Have you ever gone to school ? Great spelling skills!

[@lspipefitter]

up yours

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Thank you. It IS a good show.

[@thomasmargolis3313]

A civil war general said something to the effect that had more concerns with the press, than confederate spies.

[@stinker43]

At 4:19, the P-51 has "USAF" on the bottom of his wing. At that time, it was "USAAC",, and they didn't stencil it on the wing!

[@stinker43]

OOPS! I had previously made this comment!

[@duanelarue6292]

Also Jill Ireland and William Bryant in this episode

[@eddean6663]

I've asked this before but when did they start putting the American flag on the right arm if the A-2 jackets?

[@mosesgutierrez7602]

We have no military like this anymore because of woke generals

[@BETTERWORLDSGT]

Pilot to Bombadier!!!! Get those Krauts!!

[@reyshielharding3987]

With all due respect to actor Paul Burke`s performance in this series, in my opinion he never could "fill" Lansing`s shoes as the lead for this show. He was like a boy attempting to step into a Man`s shoes, Paul was just not up to the mark on this one. As so many others here on KZbin have commented, this series was never the same after Lansing departed. Thankfully, guest stars like Warren Oates, helped things out with their superb performances.............

[@russg1801]

B-17's didn't land with a bomb load; they ditched 'em in the channel. You didn't land with live ordnance that had been fused.

[@kevinp8212]

they couldn't release the bombs, or did you not get that? I talked toa B17 pilot and he said sometimes they had to kick the bombs off their hooks, but not a whole bomber load. And yes they did land with bombs sometimes. The fuse was activated by a propeller, I was told it had to turn 28 times beforethe fuse was live. JUst what a real WW2 B17 pilot with 29 missions over Germany told me....

[@joevicmeneses8918]

starting at 5:10 who's afraid of the big bad wulf ??

[@SusanKelly-ox2kk]

Is the P51 what became known as the Mustang ?

[@DOWNwithDICTATORS2]

Those are P-51D's Then they would have been razorbacks.

[@shimshonbendan8730]

It gets worse. The D models are National Guard Mustangs post war. Note the tail wheel in the fixed down position as well as USAF markings.

[@crazyk9754]

1 minute in we get Sgt Hulka

[@gerrygrzywinskl6135]

I love this video you tube

[@adamscott7354]

Its too bad they couldn't comment on the Tuskegee Airmen doing what this is episode is really about, actually doing the job required here, too progressive for 1965, but there it is, from day one as fighter cover they never abandoned their B17 groups

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Check the episode "Graveyard" and also the comments that go along with it.

[@mondonico2010]

At 20:00 is Larkin from Combat, was killed off and came back as McCall. I need a life.

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

No, you're fine. We can use experts on these shows.

[@beaulotterman8347]

The stock footage of B17s was unmarked close ups and far scenes were marked...also some collar and coats brass were mixed periods.

[@dhart8451]

So what is your point, that you're a dickhead.

[@dkoz8321]

Whatever happened to A-36 Apache derivative (or precursor) to P-51.

[@chardtomp]

Did they ever have a fighter pilot on this show that wasn't in his 40s!

[@adamscott7354]

Ya, tad unrealistic

[@randalldunkley1042]

This series was pure Hollywood drama. The actual war was secondary to the plot. I could not fathom why a waist gun was using half of the E-11 adapter and has a solenoid for firing on the top plate. They never use their oxygen masks as in the war these flights were well above 13,000 feet most of the time. I guess the don't want to hide their pretty faces.

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Masks removed in order to facilitate the dialog, and yes, to increase audience awareness of the casts.

[@johnrogan9420]

Duggan should have been a regular!

[@theresadelicot5104]

I agree. I liked General Britt, along with keeping Gallagher on his toes.

[@johnrogan9420]

@@theresadelicot5104 watch "Leper Colony"...Savage totally humiliated Burke for at least 10 minutes when he broke formation and did not follow Savage's formation to the bomb site...does not even return Burke's salute...up one side and down the other as Burke tries to shave....Paul Burke was a great actor too..I think more realistic of the 1940s young men serving in a us government uniform!

[@theresadelicot5104]

@@johnrogan9420 I have seen the Leper Colony episode a number of times. Burke and Lansing did outstanding with the scenes.

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

He generally was. A "guest star" more often than not. A fine addition to the series after John Larkin passed during season 1.

[@stevemartin6144]

The great Warren Oates! One of the best actors of all time and highly under rated. So sad. The perfect role for him....an annoying jerk with attitude. Best performance was a creepy thug on the lam in, "The Fugitive", another great QM production.

[@damonjay1]

Jill Ireland wow

[@Bruce-1956]

@7.35, looks suspiciously like the nose of a Spitfire. What happened to the Fock Wolffs which took off ?

[@9johnpaul]

Is it my eyes or is that reel turning clockwise instead of counter clockwise in act 111 at 21:40

[@Rusty_Gold85]

The second girl in the Hotel was Jill Ireland who married David McCallum and Charles Bronson

[@johnt.4947]

I had a thing for Jill Ireland back in the day. What a Babe! BTW...her blonde roommate is actress Jill Haworth. I remember her from the movie "In Harm's Way".

[@edwardgoering1237]

Since this show was on set in Britian and Jill was still with Dave McCallum they both are in a couple episodes

[@FeldwebelWolfenstool]

The German fighter pilot sounded more Finnish than German....

[@mikhailiagacesa3406]

FeldwebelWolfenstool He was also WAY too old. Most LW pilots at this point in the war were in their late teens to early 20's.

[@kevinp8212]

OH, no...they had fighterpilots with 250 plus kills, most fought until they died...the new pilots late in the war were the youngsters you are thinking about, just google it and shut up with nonesense like that...

[@shimshonbendan8730]

Agreed. Absolutely terrible German accent.

[@guyvalentine7258]

Has anybody but me noticed the filtered cigarettes that these people are smoking. The filtered cigarette didn't come on the market until about 1950 or in other words four years before I was born. Also in this episode I noticed that one character was carrying 100 m m cigarettes which didn't come out to early 60s.

[@adamscott7354]

A " Galvanized _BUS DRIVER_ " ?!?! Daaaaaaaammmmmmmn, apply cold methanol to burned area!

[@Trev0r98]

@44:50 - Social Distancing.

[@RogueAce93]

Col. Troper deserved it with an ego like his. Like it was said earlier, despite being an ace, he was just a teenaged boy deep down.

[@timothysowers685]

That RAT KAMANSKY Shot Down The P51 Even After Gallagher told Him It was One OF Ours plane 8:41

[@paulgerald7682]

To personal clashes or difference of opinion . In the battle field it does not belong especially at 15,000ft.

[@imjusttoodissgusted5620]

Saar-Brucken is my moms home town. she did mention a corner of her home was blown out. but she said it was artillery fire. likely from Patton's troops.

They shot the whole series with ONE B-17???

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Heard that they only had one plane, and it stayed on the ground, good for taxi-ing...could be given new paint and identification for varied roles.

[@CaptainNavman]

Jilkl Ireland, aka Mrs David MacCallum and later Mrs Charles Bronson

[@johnmoore8016]

Didn't we have any bomber bases in Africa in the early part of the war?

[@pjzdreamz]

Not until a few months after Patton executed Operation Torch 8 Nov. '43. His advance faced an air combat problem due to the number of German installations and troops still there until they were evacuated

[@Bruce-1956]

No, because you were not around in the 'early' part of the war. As usual you were late :).

[@Kimdino1]

The RAF, as the only active Allied Air Force in the early, and middle, parts of the war, had little use for heavy bombers in North Africa. Patton didn't appear until quite late into the war.

[@krh2912]

@@pjzdreamz Torch was Nov '42 not '43

[@raywhitehead730]

My uncle flew two full tours as a navigator on B 17s doing 52 missions. He flew his first tour in the early months of US 8th Air Force operations in June, 1942. He was shoot down twice in his first tour, being the only survivor both times. He returned as a lead navigator in 1944. We had many talks about his experiences. He did state that the early days, his fist first tour, were far different then a year and a half latter. By then, our fighters could be directed toward German fighters at a great distance, using airborne radar, (on other planes) and the need for our fighters to be very close to bomber formations wasn't needed. This fact is often omitted.

[@raywhitehead730]

One such radar system was code named "Fish Pond." Look it up.

[@johnmoore8016]

it showed the P-38 departing and the P-51 taking over from them. I read some where they P-38 was also used for long range escorts along with the P-47 according to the article the P-51, P-38 and the P-47 flew escort all the way to Berlin and back.

[@9johnpaul]

Ya,confusing.I just read that with drop tanks the p-38 had a greater range than the P-51. The Lightning had the Allison engine.Don't see why they didn't put the Merlin engine in it.?

[@johnmoore8016]

Thanks for the infor

[@russg1801]

There wasn't much magical about the Mustang's long range. You strapped enough drop tanks on any fighter and it could make the trip. The Lightning's range was sufficient for use in the Pacific.

[@kennethherron2468]

Hi guys my name is Kami I'm a veteran and I was just charged for United States Army in 1978

[@eddieatkins9730]

In this show Gen. Brit was a one star. I thought in the first season he was a 2 star?

[@johnrogan9420]

Think Oakes really did dislike Burke!

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

Its possible !?

[@antronshumpert4266]

Where are the Tuskegee airmen in those P-51's ?

[@AdmiralNelson1000]

You may see a few in 3rd season episode "Graveyard"

[@johnrogan9420]

Trobe... makes Gallagher look small and confused!