Twin Paranormal Fans Can Be a bit Cray Cray as the Younglings Say - They Made a Video Go Away

[@AndrewStonerock]

I wasn't even hating lol. I criticized how loud they were, the fact that they didn't use any equipment to investigate, and made up some claims about a nun un a living herself in the basement of some building in Toledo. I didn't even say anything about the dudes. I was a paranormal investigator for years, It was my job on the team to go in and debunk the haunts. I appreciate you viewing the video man. I couldn't have guessed any of this would happen.

[@BelfastCrafty]

Someone who lives in that city & has investigated there (TP even included a clip from his old team 🙈), is currently doing a video on that as their history is wrong 🙊

[@AndrewStonerock]

@@BelfastCrafty that's wild

[@BelfastCrafty]

​@@AndrewStonerockI think he's already been attacked by his fans too, on a previous video he did on them 😂 Least you got some new subscribers 😊 Will definitely be watching your Warren's video later lol

[@Tarabull7353]

​@@AndrewStonerock New subscriber!! Liars hate the truth and their followers are blind to their bullshit.

[@jennyj0007]

You look like that guy from Limp Bizkit 😂

[@MythosParanormal]

It's weird when close to 30 year old guys target audience is a bunch of 10 year olds

[@BelfastCrafty]

I did watch them until this year 🤭 I didn't believe them, obviously. But I enjoyed their videos 🙊 But now it's just cut, paste & overact for each video 😴

[@mindmachinepsy]

Looking at the rate youtubers are being exposed as pedos i am not very surprised at all tbh. Edit: I am not saying they are pedos. Please nobody take this out of context lol

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

Not a huge surprise. Many of the people that got popular on youtube have toddler audiences.

[@Thefatcatcrochets24]

Peter Pan syndrome.

[@PopCultureFan_]

I didn't know they were that old lol. I always assumed they were younger.

[@MisterKeet]

Rich people in their 30's should be ashamed letting their literal child audience defend them.

[@Latebar7609_]

@@MisterKeet they’re pathetic.

[@TheSideEyeGuy]

Twin Paranormal and their fans have a habit of pushing around small channels who criticise them. Bunch of bullies IMO. I’ve witnessed them doing this first hand.

[@AndrewStonerock]

That's absolutely wild

[@Latebar7609_]

@@TheSideEyeGuy Yep. The guys try to act all “they just hate us and tell lies”. So their fans get whipped up into a crazed frenzy and bully the channel in every way they can. Meanwhile TP can say “We didn’t tell them to do that. It’s not our fault.” They don’t discourage their fans either. They’re passive aggressive little soy boys.

[@YW2324]

​@@AndrewStonerock I know right. Like you don't have to like or agree 💯 with others opinions. I know I don't. But just remain respectful and use class when criticizing others. Some of their fans think that they can do no wrong, or that the twins themselves can't. Ya insane

[@cycg1935]

Well said, Mr Grey. Anyway, thanks to those toxic fans, I'll be checking out a new channel. 😉

[@BelfastCrafty]

When they investigated at Steve the fakes house, someone tried to give them the heads up & their "fans" jumped on them - & of course Twin Paranormal did nothing except say well we didn't know that about the location (yet had added in a disclaimer at the start of the video 🤦‍♀️😂)

[@YW2324]

Yep,... Definitely a recurring issue with their fans. Sometimes them as well 😮. Unfortunately.

[@gisellel12357]

Hedges ain’t cutting themselves. 😂

[@kyleb8117]

Cue the SEG Twin Paranormal fan. "BRO..."

[@FireFlyKH]

I’m going to watch his videos and I love that you stick up for the little guy❤

[@hauntedfries]

They always feign innocence and that they don't know or understand the criticism and then let their fans do the dirty work - love your vocab in this video 😃

[@Latebar7609_]

@@hauntedfries “it’s not our fault!” Is their mantra.

[@YW2324]

​@@Latebar7609_ yep pretty much. Ho figure 🙄. Like I get,not fully being able to control what your fans do or say, but at least try to send a message saying be respectful and any rude or inappropriate comments won't be tolerated

[@dethurge]

Dandolf of the Hedge cutters guild! Hedge cutters unite!

[@teresascrochetandanimals]

thank you for that, defending the small guy. what an amazing person you are. i love your vids even though i havent had the opportunity to watch lately... ive been so stinking busy...good luck with the gardening lol

[@Jamesviolaofficial]

I call them the “Conjecture Twins”

[@Golemofstone]

Those twins should absolutely be getting that tattoo you're sporting in the thumbnail it's PERFECT for them & their "fans"

[@haystakfan1]

I'm still convinced that 90% of their audience are 10 to 13yr olds. Their behavior just further confirms it imo. Thank you for sticking up for this small channel. How big and bad they must fill for 💩 ing on someone just starting out. They really should look in the mirror. Their fans should as well.

[@CatCmdr]

Someday they have to grow up and become mature. I hope. They are rather contrived at present. Definitely for a younger crowd. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Case_]

Have you been among people lately? (I was going to ask whether you've been on the internet lately, but it really is not just on the internet...)

[@Emmaforever]

I'm ashamed to say I used to be a subscriber of Twin Paranormal until I found the debunkers. I hang my head in shame. I can only apologise for the lack of common sense in their fan base.

[@Latebar7609_]

@@Emmaforever a lot of us used to be fans. I liked them before they started collaborating with known fakers. Before Ryan got obnoxious and acting like Zak Bagans. 😉

[@Jennymann500]

Twin's Mr grey got new boiler been fitted today. 😂 great video don't burn out. ❤

[@kylac73]

💜

[@Athos42]

Well, it is to be expected. The twins behave like 13 year olds who just found their Dad's adult magazine, and I am pretty sure that this is also their targeted audience. They really seem to have problems taking constructive criticsm and don't seem to want to control a toxic mob part of their fans. Which is speaking for itself. But then it's always the debunking community which is depicted as toxic.... we don't go to other channels and try to get videos taken down. Andrew Stonerock just made contact with some of the worst content KZbin has to offer. Yes, Twin Paranormal + fans, that's my own opinion, grow up and live with it. Hopefully Andrew won't get intimidated by this mob of prematures. Thanks for pointing this out, Dan.

[@Latebar7609_]

@@Athos42 I told him I’d put the video back up.

[@justanothernobody7142]

Everyone should go and sub to that guys channel just to spite these type of KZbin bullies.

[@sufficientphrase7769]

Legend has it that the Hedge stood for a thousand years more.

[@Tee-ina-Skee-Mask]

one might imagine twin paranormal are a bit softer than most and their child audience can be ravenous

[@Dr4g0nR4ng3r]

Beardo and parrple sent me here.

[@bretthernan7589]

Twin Paranormal never actually look scared in any of their advertising. They look stoned, for sure. But scared, no way! One of the noted signs of a haunting is that the place that's haunted is scary. Therefore it's frightening. So many of the fakers get their cat ball and their little ghost detecting gadget and start shouting "Hello, any ghosts about?" and you can be sure they're faking because the reality of experiencing an actual haunting is that it's remarkably unpleasant, is unnervingly frightening and if it's severe, there's no amount of views or ad revenue that would make you spend even a split second in a place where an evil spirit is located. That's the true hallmark of a haunting and their inability to exhibit even a modicum of fear is a sure sign they're faking.

[@BarefootonBricks]

Well he has over 600 subs now so I guess the Twins did nothing but help grow his channel... great video btw. I hope the hedge and boiler are now sorted lol

[@carlspackler6942]

Well said...

[@katharineransom6001]

Quote of the day for me is ‘it’s bollocks!’ 😂😂😂

[@rarespiritwendy]

They are defiantly "redunkulous" and bullies. I hope Andrew uploads the video again.

[@Judy-cpdt]

Brilliant thumbnail!! You fit right in there!! LMAO

[@zandernpatch]

Love the knob tattoo 😀

[@Irish1Eric]

Lol. The Twinsies are every bit as bad as the XPLR clowns. They are the Flat Earthers of paranormal fans

[@Latebar7609_]

@@Irish1Eric 😆😆😆I like that! I’m going to use it!

[@Irish1Eric]

@@Latebar7609_ please do !!! Spread it far and wide!!!

[@ancientmadness-rlk]

Dandolf The Grey Grey taking on the cray cray. 0:55 lmao

[@gisellel12357]

So I did support this lady on tik tok. She used apps walking through cemeteries. She also cleaned the stones and adopted a small neglected cemetery to clean up. I knew the apps weren’t actually folks talking to us but it was fun to watch the coincidences that did happen. So idk if TP fans see them as just a harmless group? I found them offensive when they jumped around the site of a horrible crime yelling M and celebrating. It’s just such poor taste. Maybe I’m a stick in the mud though.

[@rosederry]

I too am going to check him out, thanks Mr Grey!

[@BlanBonco]

Fight fight fight. I wanna see orbs wrestling

[@GetDucked17]

I always wanted to be in a gang. Will there be a secret handshake and snacks?

[@zzirSnipzz1]

1st rule of the gang is you don't talk about the gang 😂

[@YW2324]

​@@zzirSnipzz1 lmao 🤣

[@BelfastCrafty]

Haha you do crack me up, getting down with the kids 😂 I KNEW someone was criticising them as each time it's happening, Ryan (1 of the twins, & the other is called Wyatt btw 😂) always tweets how awful his mental health is & how they work so hard & no-one appreciates it! Every single time! & I'm not knocking anyone with MH issues, I have plenty of my own lol But he's like clockwork with it 🙄

[@YW2324]

Don't they have plenty of fans who care enough about their well being anyway? Why say no one cares? Makes no sense 😕

[@Latebar7609_]

Just to show you what kind of people they are. I watched their live the other day. They were celebrating 1 million brain de--I mean followers. They were popping champagne and throwing glitter everywhere. I told them to keep the dog out of it. They weren’t listening. So while someone makes the comment about what a horrible sticky mess it is- Ryan’s girlfriend says “They don’t care. It’s not their house.” Ryan says “Yeah it’s not our house.” 😳😳 Wow. Just wow. It gets better…… They call their mom to come over to clean it up for them and she does it!!!!!! They’re 29 years old. 😣

[@YW2324]

That's just wow like you said 😮

[@Jethro3263]

Wow. The twins are at it again. Someone says the truth, and they allow their fans to go bullying. Grow some.🤘❤️🤘🍻

[@PopCultureFan_]

I'm going to guess people were snowflakes and this guy said nothing truly disgusting. People get offended by the littleist things these days, i mean its almost like they want to live in a bubble or some fantasy land where nothing can possibly be offensive, and you're right, people should be able voice their opinion, as long as they aren't being as ass while doing it, and it looks like he wasnt.

[@emiliea9133]

You seem offended

[@Sour84-t9y]

You have Ryan and River, those are the twins and then their best friend Wyatt. I know this because I once believed in this. But Beardo changed my opinion. I cant even watch it anymore.

[@RysloFC]

Which one is discount Post Malone?

[@Sour84-t9y]

@@RysloFC Going after people's appearance like that isnt fair. We can all have opinions but we dont have to call anyone names.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

@@RysloFC 0:43 Discount SIA

[@GoldenAK42089]

It's weird that grown men talk and act like little children in their videos... and I never believed their investigations.. they overly hype which discredits much of their evidence

[@Latebar7609_]

@@GoldenAK42089 it’s complete and utter b$llsh|t. Yes it is odd that they’re 29 and act 16. 😫

[@drs21]

Quality t-shirt MrGrey

[@trillwill1014]

The thumbnail is epic

[@juliejackson7870]

Where has your green Alien gone ?

[@WorldofMrGrey]

On top of the shelf out of camera shot :)

[@jennjones3560]

You are definitely right about them running with the app and using false historical information on their videos. They are extremely LOUD. I once seen a video where they said they believed they were speaking to hitler. I was extremely shocked and thought I hope they are joking….. they were not. So yeah as actual investigators I do not take them seriously at all. As an entertainment channel that puts out content to entertain solely ( yup that’s exactly what they do). Also I thought I was subbed to you already but realized I wasn’t 😮. So I just subbed to you! Take care and hope everyone is doing well ❤

[@waynedawson1366]

Years ago when I knew no different I used to like Twin Paranormal, until all the BS came to light. Now knowing that they try to shut streams down, I like them even less.if they don't like negative comments then they shouldn't fake content. SIMPLES.

[@Latebar7609_]

I think in the beginning they were trying to be real. Nik told me they never faked anything when he was with them. I think they learned that’s the only way to get the views and money. Well they’ve got it. They had to sacrifice their integrity to do it. It’s really too bad. I liked them a lot in the beginning and had high hopes for them. Talk about a huge disappointment!

[@waynedawson1366]

@@Latebar7609_ They need to stop Faking, Stop making storiea, stop shouting ghost at everything, and needto be respecful.but these guys will never do any of that while the money keeps flowing in. And my personal dislike, is Dude, Bro, Demon etc. Totally annoying. Only time I'll watch them now is from debunking channels.

[@Latebar7609_]

@@waynedawson1366 Wayne, other than being total grifters, my problem with them is they act like we’re too stupid to catch on. They will die on that hill (that they don’t fake) They’re enjoying that money though. Teeth, tattoos, body mods, lip injections. It’s so sad. I mean when you ghost hunt with a phone app and a rem pod, that frees up all that extra cash you could be using to better your channel. I mean I realize it’s not really my business what they spend their money on. But how can people not realize that they don’t give one tiny little fvck about the paranormal. Otherwise they would be doing whatever they could to learn more and become better investigators. They sold their souls for money and KZbin fame. 😠

[@waynedawson1366]

@@Latebar7609_ in full agreement with you on that one. Couldn't of said it better myself

[@Latebar7609_]

@@waynedawson1366 😊

[@alyneorleans5018]

Just went over to Andrew’s channel and subscribed! 😉

[@amorphousalienblob]

And some paranormal groups and their followers call the debunking community toxic!? Right.

[@Raisinette-p1f]

I love your personality and sense of humor. It makes me think my husband should do youtube videos since he is very funny. Do you ever outline the equipment and software you use for your videos?

[@DeMon_SlaYer-Dave]

Twin fakeanormal

[@MissSp00kysTruthSeekers]

In the long run, all the fans did was take Andrew’s small channel and blew it up! They got exactly the opposite of what they were looking for. And all the better for Andrew because now his channel is over 4K! So that’s a huge FU to the Twin’s fans in my opinion! And thank to all you debunkers and reaction channels who jumped on this and helped bring good people to his channel! Also for highlighting the shitty attitudes of the twins in fueling the fire with their fans. They didn’t even oppose it or ask their fans to stop being toxic, no, they added it the mob mentality. Sickening!

[@Jager71]

Everyone needs to sub to him. Really cool channel

[@AnitaDrake-hz8nh]

Haha thanks dan

[@janeglover3118]

Ryan and his twin brother River, are the Crayola Kids aka Twin Paranormal. Their followers are a tad overly fanatic, just imo. 🙄🤷‍♀️

[@karenhawkins8061]

I'm sorry if you are 30 years old and cannot take constructive criticism then you maybe shouldn't be making KZbin videos. Used to like TP when they first started but stopped watching after the clear misuse of apps. Don't watch them anymore. Great video Mr Grey

[@lisaparrington6039]

I'm so glad I saw right through TP, and don't bother with them.

[@ctrl_alt_delete4729]

There are so many fake & annoying paranormal channels out there, it’s unreal. Honestly the worst to me is that Jasko 🤡 . Between all the fake content & his horrible acting skills, scary to think there are others that truly believe such nonsense 🚮

[@markrowbotham222]

init bruv

[@tekfunk6299]

Is your shirt "way of the little dragon"? I played that on Amiga in 85 or so

[@mandalorianmama]

No one says cray cray in 2024 😂

[@John_Smith_60]

You just did!

[@mandalorianmama]

@@John_Smith_60 🙄🙄🙄

[@Latebar7609_]

I like delulu

[@YW2324]

​@@Latebar7609_ yesss 😅lol

[@Tarabull7353]

They are entertainment for teenagers and that's it. Their content has been debunked SO many times. #UtterBollocks

[@zzirSnipzz1]

I dint watch these guys but i will defend them if i don't win bingo bollocks 🤔

[@Latebar7609_]

They will read all these comments. They’re obsessed with what people say about them. They scour the internet looking for it. You’d think they would learn something after reading the same complaints over and over and over. But they won’t. Everyone that doesn’t worship them is a “hater” and “jealous”. A narcissists cop out. They’re just really bad people. In every way.

[@jackihudson]

TP fans r really mean. I use to watch TP until I found Beardo. So I made a comment and got harassed. So I unsubscribed

[@sequoyahgray2408]

To be fair everyone is allowed to have opinions, however if you cant handle the same type of criticism or “bullying” how about dont make videos about channels with more followers than yourself? Thats just asking to be attacked, not to mention using bigger channels to get yourself more views? 😂 moral of the story, dont create drama that you KNOW wont end well 🤷‍♀️

[@WorldofMrGrey]

Hey sequoya, first of all, thank you for the comment. So i was perusing twitter again this morning before i go to work, and of course twin paranormal stuff pops up, then i see a comment which i recognised and it was your comment, screenshotted to show Ryan what you commented here, and thats totally fine :). Was going to respond there, but you know 140 characters cant really do the justice lol. Straight off the bat, me and andrew are not buddies, i dont know the guy until i saw a tweet about his video. He does seem like a decent bloke from what i have seen in his other videos, but thats the extent. That said you are absolutely right, if you make a video on youtube about anything or anyone you have to be able to take critiscm, i think andrew mainly took it down because he is a very small channel and that kind of negative engagement can hurt a small channel who are just starting out. Now the "bullying" part? as someone who in my first year of what we'll call "big school" as a kid, i was bullied, because i was smaller than the guy doing the bullying, until about 8 months into my first year i finally had enough and fought back, and never got bullied again in my life. That's bullying. Constructive critic is just that, you're constructively critiquing someone's work on KZbin, or in general, that has always been the foundation of KZbin. Its the way KZbin has been built from the ground up, commentary videos. If someone makes a video, then fans of the people or person go at that video in defence? that is also totally fine, you are allowed to defend your favourite youtuber. The issue i had with it was the bragging about making a content creator taking a video down, that's just not cool whoever you're a fan of in my eyes, and that's why i defended Andrew. Then the affirmation by Ryan Rees to those same people, that just tells them that its ok to try and take a persons video down and act the way they did, this is the issue i had. I have always said, regardless of what i think of twin paranormal style of vids, or what they claim to do? they do genuinely seem like decent dudes, bit over the top for my liking, but they are not bad people. Now like i said, i'm sure not all TP fanbase are like that, but I hope you understand where i am coming from by defending a small creator from a very large fanbase. Anyway i appreciate you taking the time to comment, hopefully you got to the bottom of this very long comment :)

[@davidjames7778]

Turn your music down.🎶🎶

[@Judy-cpdt]

Ryan, River and Wyatt

[@kylac73]

💜