TWIST: Russell Brand FAKE Evidence...FLAWED

[@AndrewGold1]

It's complex...but what do you think of these weirdly edited messages? All opinions welcome. Hit like, and watch the full documentary on andrewgold.locals.com. If you can't afford it, use KZbin30. If you can afford it, consider it a tip! :)

[@JohannesNielsen]

I would not trust any allegations against Russel Brand

[@JohannesNielsen]

No, your assertions are based on your shame based beliefs. No "Its just known " only indicates that you are biased and come with a "Guilty mind" therefore anything you say is to be taken with a grain of salt

[@ChristopherNFP]

Support for TUG. Andrew your view of the way the Times printed the messages may be a reflection of a blind spot that you may have as a former journalist. When I read the word "graphic" in a newspaper article about SA, all I think about is that is is a content warning. A trigger warning if you like. A message from the paper that the contents may be distressing to some readers. I suspect TUG would read the word with the same meaning. Given the Times reputation, it wants us to assume it's contents are factual and accurate. In that case there is NO room for a mock up fake document of that type being published. To do so is to publish fake news (trump language) or misinformation (WEF globalist agenda) The Times should simply have published a transcript of the messsages exchanged, clearly indicating where parts are edited or omitted. Or published a photograph of the messages and identified what the photo is, when it was taken and who provided it to them. Then readers would be able to assess the credibility of the material themselves without the times forcing its conclusion on the readers.

[@Juttutin]

Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor both point at The Times not checking their graphics department intern's work.

[@binniparis8024]

Im in Australia and "that umbrella guy link has been deactivated, unavailable. Xx

[@livingoutsidethebubble]

I think it is fine to be on the fence and not to even have an opinion until some criminal charges are made.

[@TheRealdal]

It’s probably past the statute of limitations, if they have that in England. Some of this is in the states though and most likely is past.

[@Samanthaslove]

@@TheRealdalmost of the alleged assaults took place in the UK and we have no statute of limitations

[@LLynneM]

@@Samanthaslovenoice!!

[@Timothy1976]

It will come down their word against his that's why knowing the people involved is crucial to making an informed judgement

[@myeye.6462]

Makes me laugh? They have spent years getting this nonsense aired, but turn a blind eye when certain religious people in Rotherham and Rochdale are doing this to young girls on a production line. Media are the sc.m of the earth, only print what they want. Gone are the days of two sides to a story.

[@muddywitch9016]

If a piece of evidence is clearly doctored, then it puts its validity into serious doubt

[@ronnie7075]

Very good post muddy. I agree with you.

[@SuperMonkeeGirl]

Exactly. Especially when the media was selling this text messages edited to sound more salacious. Once you read them, it doesn’t sound like r*pe at all. So it’s really hard to buy this BS

[@bethnshermy]

Indeed. If Brand is guilty of these accusations, the Times has done the victims a tremendous diservice. In addition to the altered texts, the shown messagess do not match their reporting.

[@t3hpenguinofd00m]

Why do you say it's "clearly doctored"? Looks to me like they've copied and pasted multiple screenshots together to make them into one image. That's exactly how I would convey this information as well. How else could it even be done?

[@t3hpenguinofd00m]

@@bloomtikbloom9593 yeah I'm so confused by these comments lol

[@ReeCrowsFray]

Thanks to Mr. TUG (That Umbrella Guy) I saw this and he’s always been great at really digging into evidence. That’s not to say RB is fully innocent, but TUG is one who’s personally been attack w blatant lies by MSM bc he defended and debunked the Johnny Depp situation. Love him! He’s amazing! You’re amazing as well, and Shaun Atwood.

[@angelaconner3131]

He has said he has been a disgusting horrible person. He is a good humble man now.

[@AnandaSea]

Yes. ❤

[@ejtattersall156]

Brand is terrible at digging into evidence. He's a superficial attention addict. He's a treat to no power what so ever as he is too stupid to actually articulate anything.

[@StimParavane]

FFS. Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

[@disliked1390]

TUG is an agent of the MSM. He has ties with the clintons. He wore a t-shirt the other day with blue and white stripes just like what.. yes Epsteins island. I'm sorry but you can't trust him.

[@Travis-pv8vj]

Its crazy to me that people would accuse somebody of horrible crimes by making a stylized documentary. Using quick edits, slick camera work and bad actors🥴

[@myrawells5691]

Particularly when the facts are dramatized deplorable docudramas! They’re so bad

[@pfdrtom]

Say a lot, doesn't it?

[@tilatsiddiqui3969]

Was the mock u mentory documentary a precursor to a pending criminal investigation, allegedly?

[@HumanimalChannel]

Russell does fondle a very young girl's nipple, on Live TV.... uts repulsive

[@MusiciansWithVision]

Would it seem so crazy if you didn't hold Russell Brand in high regard???

[@Garzavalli]

This is a hit against Russell Brand from the Main Stream Media and Hollywood. This makes me sick.

[@lamueldagon7618]

No it's the military industrial and pharmaceutical complex using the MSM which is their tool.

[@damedusa5107]

Hollywood? No

[@JB38549]

I just want all the facts just sick of all this BS that we get spoon fed these days.

[@Cazza1206]

💯

[@sampal5352]

We can thank the massive corporations and the Internet for that. Everything in US is owned by like 4 or 5 billionaires.

[@beachrando796]

It’s Ashton Kutcher’s lucky day

[@daniellesullivan9883]

Or deliberate? Hard to say.

[@sistersister8830]

@@daniellesullivan9883 Timing is very interesting.

[@marieuzes]

That made me laugh!

[@sandy-quimsrus]

My thoughts exactly ❤.

[@Kknightstar]

No doubt 😅

[@charliekane135]

The texts Brand allegedly sent used the word 'behavior' instead of behaviour. We don't use American spellings. They were also full of spelling and grammatical errors. Brand is quite clever and extremely articulate.

[@marieuzes]

Good observations. Yes, Brand can be accused of a lot of things, but not stupidity. In his worst moments he has been articulate. Also it never occurs to Americans that UK English is different in both spelling and grammar and idiomatic speech.

[@charliekane135]

@@marieuzes It stood out to me like a sore thumb.

[@junglejuice.6534]

Not sure I agree with this, most people use predictive text, and if used in America it would spell it the A merican way.

[@charliekane135]

@@junglejuice.6534 I've never had American spelling come up using predictive text on any device. A phone doesn't change keyboard or dictionary when you set foot in another country does it? I don't know. It wasn't just that word, the whole thing was full of grammatical and spelling errors. Brand may be many things but he's certainly not thick 😆 These alleged 'events' were all in the UK ......... Brand lives in the UK mostly.

[@damedusa5107]

@@charliekane135they weren’t. The rape allegation was in LA . So much misinformation on this. Did you watch the documentary?

[@MrBait362]

When did the media become the police and the court?

[@Armed-Forever]

when they don't like someone

[@laurarominger2073]

Exactly. None of this is convincing or could be used in court. Doesn’t matter. They’ve smeared him.

[@mypillowguy445]

​@@Armed-ForeverLike Russell Brand using his KZbin channel to accuse the left of crimes with no evidence.

[@mypillowguy445]

​@@laurarominger2073It absolutely can be used in court.

[@Riversdoc11deff]

Wanna know the same !

[@TrebleSum]

The people who make alledged SA political, need their heads shaking & their wool shaving. No matter what has truly happened, I only stand with the presumption of innocence until proven guilty in a court of law, not trial by media.

[@LLynneM]

Andrew, _trust._ Russell Brand isn’t the biggest story in the world. It’s just another sad story of *A Man, His Mouth + His Member.* It’s a tale as old as time.

[@christoffesedao3579]

Well said! . . . Russell is a man and probably did inappropriate things. Also, Media is always slanted and dishonest, another tale as old as time. Both things can be true in this case.

[@LLynneM]

One thing that was REALLY smart, if it was intentional in prep for this reckoning, is coming to America + leaning right. If u hv a deviance (past or present), the safest place for u is the political right of these United States. He’ll be in “good” company. He’ll likely come off as a lightweight. Whoever thought of it is _brilliant,_ as the Brits say.

[@kimcat7320]

@lynnemorse4383 LOL!

[@EP65]

It's just a new tale of 'women' feeling offended. Get a life.

[@Berighteousone]

​@@EP65 Correct rape is very offensive you sound like a sexual predator

[@rjim1]

This was the most predictable attack on a any celebrity, ever!!

[@snekiuk]

Agree as soon he turn away of support left side..he was no good anymore ..he never hid that he had a problem ,but let's be honest every girl around him would like to be his "girlfriend" he wouldn't need to force them...he could have any girl ,he wouldn't need to "rape". Politics he is no good for then anymore ,let's distroy his life now as he talks about Covid, masks etc..sorry English not my first language

[@christheghostwriter]

What in God's name are you babbling about?

[@thetaexali9550]

There ain't no sitting in the middle as there is no conviction, he is Innocent right now. So until proven otherwise that's what he is.

[@inquiringminds6633]

What! 😂 you can be guilty of something and not appear in a court what are you talking about? She has evidence she went to a R crisis centre the same day! Why on earth would she do that if she hadn’t been R’d?

[@thetaexali9550]

@@inquiringminds6633 Your only guilty if the person in the wig say's so. That's the trouble when Karen lives next door to Alice.

[@simpdefendmlady6579]

​@@inquiringminds6633I go to homeless shelters and I'm not homeless. Why the hell do I go there

[@thetaexali9550]

Let's hope people are capable to presume innocence@@pem585

[@stu0508]

@@inquiringminds6633 He said "conviction". You cannot be guilty until you are convicted guilty. That is the whole point of the courts and even they get it wrong sometimes. But the MSM and YOU are not the courts and whether you "think" he is guilty has nothing to do with anything other than showing how most people are both stupid and opinionated at the same time. Which is very very dangerous. But you do you Karen.....

[@OrwellsHousecat]

Good on Andrew for trying to be balanced & factual

[@1000WinstonSmith]

He’s a bit, well, beige

[@OrwellsHousecat]

@@1000WinstonSmith aye, but pretty reliable content, especially when you consider the other channels spewing out partisan guff on the same topics

[@Threadbow]

​@@OrwellsHousecathe is often leaving out information which skews cases.

[@Meoli55]

Andrew, your capacity for nuanced and detailed reporting is the shit man! I'm rigjt there with you!

[@MusiciansWithVision]

And your ability to suck up is also the shit man!

[@joscrase9564]

Is it not obvious that this documentary was released exactly as Russell Brand is releasing a documentary with Edward Snowden? The higher ups usually go to great lengths to cover up the despicable behaviour of celebrities

[@SubliminalLocks]

There are people on Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram, all showing and sharing that graphic as if it is 100% real so that needs to be addressed. This is a big problem.

[@joantablet9736]

When are you getting married

[@Peter_Wang]

Guilty by public opinion is the way the FAR LEFT plays their game in 2023

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

@@Atom-56 I think they're referencing the graphic of the "text message" that Andrew was discussing in this video? Did you watch the video?

[@victoriamyatt1709]

Unfortunately people show all kinds of stupidity on tik tok, insta etc. If we police things too much then we loose the ability of freedom of speech. The sensible reasonable people will always take it with a pinch of salt until further evidence is available. The people who have confirmation bias or believe everything they hear/read without critical thinking will always be around, it's just life and I'm sure the newspapers have printed something similar.

[@immaseahorse24]

Do you know it isn't?

[@DillyDallyDiane-t8s]

I am also a huge RB fan! He has been openly admitting openly about his sex addiction, struggle about his drug addiction. I think he realizes that he had a hard life before, and to make good with everything that he’s done in the past I think most of the women gave consent. Some of these videos that are out now by the media have women in the shadows you don’t know if they’re real women young women, old women we have no idea it could all be just a plot to shut him down. I think he talks about big topics about Government Elise pharmaceutical companies. These are very strong companies, and I think it was just a matter of time before they were trying to tarnish him so that they can continue their propaganda against the World.

[@truelove11.11]

The mainstream media is clearly getting desperate in their attempts to shut Russel Brand down. If they let him continue with his truth quest, they won't have any careers soon anyway as their employers will go bankrupt, so you can surely believe that they would put their own careers on the line in a final attempt to shut him up.

[@powderandpaint14]

Why do you think the women gave consent? How do you know? The women are being kept anonymous in the public eye for their safety, as can you imagine the kind of abuse and threats they would be facing now if their identities were known? Both Channel 4 and the Times will have done extensive investigations before publishing these allegations because they could easily be sued if they didn't have solid evidence.

[@peterdowdall8972]

I don't like Russell brand but i don't like trial by media even more so in my eye's he is guilty of nothing

[@killerheelscrime]

Agreed. Why is it if we have this opinion we must be Russell brand super fans 🙄. Can't stand the guy find his channel boring and think he's a bit of a narcissist. However I hate trial by media and refuse to condemn a man unless he's been proven guilty in a court of law.

[@Samanthaslove]

@@killerheelscrimecan I ask why you think he’s a narcissist?

[@SunlightOfTheSpirit]

@@Samanthaslovehe is a narcissistic, that’s why he is in recovery and needs God

[@Musiklife.9049]

@@SunlightOfTheSpiritthat doesn’t make sense…narcissistic people don’t need anyone’s help!

[@Samanthaslove]

@@SunlightOfTheSpirit I don’t think that’s the definition of a narcissist.

[@abacus299]

People need to consider the type of centre Brand attended for "sexaddiction" treatment. It's documented in his book. His management insisted, otherwise he would be unable to get work. Why would that be if there were no issues with his behaviour? It was not a celebrity centre but a clinic for sexual offenders, either pre-trial/sentencing assessment or post trial treatment. Plenty of other celebrities have been treated for similar addictions and not needed to go to such clinics. So why did Brand need to be in clinic for sex offenders? Sorry, but those repeatedly questioning why some alleged victims did not go to the police are demonstrating a lack of knowledge and understanding of sexual assault and victimology. They are also in denial of the grooming and gaslighting skills of experienced perpetrators. Amplify that tenfold if the alleged subject has fame and fortune, PR and lawyers. The documentary detailed more than four events. The testimonies inferred a persistent, predatory attitude towards women and a disregard for their feelings. That is not the same as promiscuity. That is the reason Brand no longer works in Hollywood or mainstream TV. He didn't reject them. Post MeToo they couldn't risk working with him.

[@albin2232]

No case to be answered so far.

[@MENTION-IT-ALL]

People are flawed, then some find grace and redemption. Timing is sus.

[@limlaith]

💯💯💯 This comment post should be pinned to the top.

[@chanelno.5560]

If your worried about a persistent, predatory attitude towards women and a disregard to their feelings then I think most men, before they find someone they want to be in a relationship with are guilty of this. Russell was very highly sexed but that behaviour described above is quite a normal one.

[@TheLunarnotes]

Also the notion that Channel 4 news have this secret agenda to silence Brand because he’s either encroaching on their space or he’s telling too much truth is utterly ridiculous, unless Phizer are big sponsors of Channel 4 or the Times??

[@killerheelscrime]

I dont always agree with you andrew but its good to have a difference in opinions. Makes things more interesting. I wouldnt attack u or unsubscribe just because i didn't agree with you thats just silly and immature. I like a good debate and i like your channel

[@grumylynn]

The Natalie story is confusing. I'm sure she didn't go to his home at 2a.m. to be assaulted, but why did she go? What was the understanding between the two of them as to why she was going? What was their communication ahead of time? I don't want to dismiss a victim OR protect a predator OR falsely accuse someone, this all seems fuzzy.

[@Janeymacmac]

The throbbing knob of the british establishment is hanging above Russell Brands head like the sword of Damocles.

[@skannerdk7268]

Love it! What an apt description 😂

[@HarveyPooka]

Brilliant! 😅

[@Chelsea-mz4dn]

Is this Russell? 😂

[@raum2811]

He is British establishment. Covered up by the BBC no less.

[@googleman9425]

The only knob that has been throbbing is his by his own admission

[@Jsarson1976]

The question I got is why now? Did they run out of money?

[@wanderer5200]

Because the Danny Masterson trial is over. And they need a new villain.

[@pjt3887]

Andrew you know it's a good week when both sides are equally upset with you. 😂 That just means you're on the right track. Keep up the good work, I appreciate you my friend.

[@evelynwells-rk1ed]

A person is innocent until proven guilty!

[@FarmerGwyn]

ummm, no.

[@lahtal1]

That's how Jimmy Savile got away with it👎🏼

[@quintessence3991]

No they aren't, a person is only innocent if they didn't commit the crime they are accused of. Millions of people get found not guilty for crimes they did indeed commit but there is not enough evidence in a Court of Law to cross the 'reasonable doubt' threshold.

[@UglyRugby]

@@quintessence3991”millions” of people get wrongfully convicted as well. The point the OP makes is that without absolute knowledge then Brand should be treated as innocent until proven guilty, a fundamental principle of western civilisation.

[@lynpatricia6854]

Person should be considered innocent into proven guilty on a court of law

[@irrationalgeographic9953]

So there is Text messages, emails, DNA, witnesses, voicemails and now Andrew Tate has come out in support of Russel Brand. The text messages are not cut and pasted they are a graphical representation of the messages. It did say in the article they saw the text messages on the phone. Also there are photos of the bite marks on the cheeks on a female British comedian who complained at the time. Brand got in trouble and lost his jobs in the UK so went to the USA. He lost his jobs in the USA because of the same behaviour so decided to do "alterative" media and get some of that sweet conspiracy cash. He's a fraud.

[@ladidaohoh3168]

Omg biting someone is completely unacceptable and a violation, how did he get away with that at the time, is what I want to know, even before the me too era, I’m pretty sure it was universally accepted you can’t bite people and leave teeth marks on them?

[@Atom-56]

Who would she have complained to ?? Can you imagine going to the Police in the UK and saying, a guy I work with bit me. Half the Metropolitan Police are sexually assaulting female colleagues.

[@irrationalgeographic9953]

@@ladidaohoh3168 Yes its mind boggling, while biting her on the cheek he would forcibly grab her between the legs. The female is a UK comedian and back then she was still quite new and Brand was a huge star at the time. She did report it and photos were taken and Brand left for the USA soon after. He never made UK TV appearances after that. I am just guessing that she thought going to the Police would not be a great career move. A interview today with a media lawyer said on a TV news show that a UK female celebrity has approached him making claims she had also been SA by Brand. I get the feeling the floodgates have been opened and there will be many more.

[@JaneDoe-bo9tz]

Yes the loyal conspiracy theorist fans are being duped, he’s just found another platform to make money

[@codirennke1109]

Once again I'm thankful for your reporting Andrew. You always show integrity and honor. You're a good man and role model.

[@englishvoodoo676]

Either file a criminal complaint or shutTFup, trial by newspaper is not how these charges should be treated.

[@OspreyChick]

Cool, love Nate. One of the most balanced KZbinrs, so glad he’s making more content.

[@ronnieroo227]

❤ Nate the Lawyer

[@StimParavane]

"I find it hard to believe that they doctored the text messages" - are you joking? These are journalists FFS.

[@Obsidiansoul74]

The black belt barrister is good for UK law stuff.

[@audioauracle-dsyswpwanl-]

I bet this situation (like Andrew Tate) is by the numbers 🔤 🔢 #gematria *Reeks/smells of another scripted Jesuit-hood-matrix certified classic* 😅

[@Whenallwozkool]

Your coverage and diplomacy of this has been impeccable Andrew.

[@OttersAndOreos]

Andrew, at the bottom of the text messages, there is an Apple Cash icon. Apple did not introduce this until 2017, and those text messages are from 2012. I am seeing that correctly?

[@seancamacho4273]

You are correct.

[@robinhood4640]

Would it not be there on the phone irrespective of the date the message was in the history, or saved in a file somewhere on the phone?

[@scottishpensioner2447]

Great observation!

[@ellendoherty7816]

I thought this when I first heard this. It was more implying he did not use a condom against her consent and this is why she got herself checked ,not because of rape but she was scared she'd caught something

[@ellendoherty7816]

There was nothing said about him raping her,she just talks about him not using a condom. The rape thing seems to gave come later.. I wonder why?

[@isisbathory]

Quite frankly even if the behaviour he had in the past is according to today's standards, despicable, it is something he did in the past, and like you said it and Russell said as well, he was pretty open about it. He has since changed and I don't think it is cool nor helpful to keep condemning people for their past flaws, especially, when done in a time when said behaviour was far more acceptable. Judging people's pasts according to today's moral standards simply doesn't work.

[@horseguy1230]

Since when has rape been acceptable?

[@sistersister8830]

@@horseguy1230 Since when have we actually seen any evidence of him doing that? If he turns out to be guilty fine nail him but right now we are seeing actors pretending to be victims and stories with no tangible source attached. It stinks pretty bad.

[@isisbathory]

@@horseguy1230 if he has indeed committed such a crime, then he should indeed face consequences, through the proper methods (i.e. court of law). I don't know whether he has committed such a crime therefore, I cannot comment on it.

[@horseguy1230]

@@sistersister8830 Absolutely agree - this should be a matter for the police rather than a documentary. I really don’t care about his promiscuity which was obviously well known, but that isn’t what is being alleged here.

[@isisbathory]

@@horseguy1230 preach

[@yvonnesanders4308]

TUG has good sources. He was right about Heard

[@AimeeAimee444]

AH was obviously a horrible person, TUG brought out receipts for sure!

[@immaseahorse24]

The investigative journos who researched the story have pretty good sources too...

[@immaseahorse24]

​@@AimeeAimee444yes but many people knew guard was off

[@michael-4k4000]

Russell Brand's issues are really helping the channel out a lot

[@shayZero]

I found it sus when they all talked about "dark black eyes" like rapists literally invoke evil demonic forces when they do their thing. It's like the lie that is too unbelievable that calls everything else into question

[@am3ient]

It’s just pupil dilation that happens when in a person is in a heightened state giving the illusion of darker eyes.

[@lucid6891]

@@am3ient Dilated pupils are a familiar everyday occurrence. Eyes going completely black or glazed over as if someone else has taken control of their body (sic) is not the same and sounds like some evil caricature that fits a narrative.

[@JamesBridgeman-i1e]

i once saw him live in an intimate gig and his EYES are SOMETHING ELSE (and this comes from someone who has worked in prisons...)

[@camlam5269]

His eyes do glaze over. You can see it onscreen. You can see it on ordinary people if they've had too much to drink, or if they're in a certain mental state. It isn't implying anything supernatural. The scariest eyes are the ones with no light behind them. You actually can see a lot in a person's eyes. These comments didn't become a cliché because no one can relate. Now...the story is they edited a story about him not using protection when he promised he would. They edited that story to sound like he committed r@pe. They shouldn't have edited it to sound worse, but what he did was still wrong. It was manipulative and imo @busive. He did more than she consented to, which could have led to an STD or pregnancy. I don't get why we're portraying him as a victim if he did that. The Times were given the unedited texts, so there's no need to go after the accuser either.

[@sarahwalker7124]

It's the way Amber Heard described JD's eyes too and look what happened there 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@deedee7780]

To expect someone to come out right away after a sexual assault is unfair. Many women feel terrified and wrestle with telling someone what happened. Sometimes it's takes years to confront the trauma.

[@nhmooytis7058]

But there has to be a statute of limitations on the flaky ‘sexual harassment’ allegations vs actual sexual assault/rape.

[@vickilawrence7207]

Absolutely and it takes awhile to process and decide whether you want to do anything about inappropriate behavior, partly bc we women usually feel as if we’re somehow guilty of something…

[@devilgod136]

Life is unfair. It is also unfair for the accused. Especially when there are liars out there wanting to destroy men. They should have complained earlier. I don't believe them.

[@eldictator1]

Someone did come out but didn’t file a police report

[@devilgod136]

@@eldictator1 Too bad for her.

[@athena2athena2londongirllondon]

Andrew absolutely love your honesty..you’re a seeker of the truth. Very much looking forward to Nate & you discussing shortly.

[@Cazza1206]

​@@m.t.1616im sure his partner would have something to say about that 😂

[@Amadeus_2061]

The reason why Nadia’s accounts are no longer believable is that she either provided or approved the doctored texts as authentic, in which case she is no longer trustworthy. As for the journalists, if they are supposedly presenting “evidence,” then they should provide the full undoctored texts with the embarrassing parts simply blacked out. This is manipulative, doctored, and grounds for a lawsuit, which I hope Brandt pursues with the full force of the law.

[@kateashby3066]

They should have made it clear that parts were redacted. The fact that they didn’t makes this look very untrustworthy. This isn’t journalism.

[@rivertam7827]

Yeah this doesn't really add up. If things needed to be redacted they should have been blanked out so we could see that there was more information, or if the Times created it, why the fk didn't they use an emulator? It really isn't hard to create an image that looks like a screenshot without cutting and pasting crap all over the place. All seems off

[@arnold-hu4vk]

did you even watch the video you are commenting under?

[@Lollipop_Lexi]

Have you ever embellished a story? Told a story in a different way to take out parts that are embarrassing to you? Does that mean the whole story never happened?

[@matthewstone1362]

​@@Lollipop_LexiNot where rape and sexual assault were concerned. I did embellish a story about a chat I had at a bus stop once. But then I'm not a journalist either.

[@cwtchhapus6305]

For me, my perspective is that RB has decided to take the spiritual road - he has positioned himself as a bit of wellness guru- well you cant really evolve spiritually if you are hiding from the past- I know RB devotees really want him to be this enlightened man who is a truth teller and revealing all the hidden darker aspects of our society and how it operates, but he also has a dark dark past- and no matter what HIS agenda is today, he is completely responsible for the un folding of this event in his life - If he is genuine and sincear in his desire to " Be Free" then he will have to own what he has done. - there is absolutely no way to be free and be a liar at the same time

[@googleman9425]

He may well not be free in the near future

[@AntonSlavik]

It's kinda problematic at all that the media do these mockups of text messages in cases like this. It doesn't matter how they clarify that - they could have it in big, bold, red capital letters "WE MADE THIS IN A HURRY IN MS PAINT", and it would have the exact same effect, the effect that they want it to have.

[@jediknight2350]

i hope he sues the sheet out of them media are scum of life.

[@TheNewMexican78]

You mean Celebrity

[@jediknight2350]

no the mainstream media are total scummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm@@TheNewMexican78

[@markmarkie3076]

Well whatever the text is, it was clearly written by a girlfriend, his girlfriends in 2012 were - Nikolett Barabas March 2012 / Isabella Brewster July 2012 / Geri Halliwell (yes that SPICE GIRL) August 2012- Text messages August 2012. So make up your own mind who's making these allegations and why they remain anonymous.

[@damedusa5107]

You think he only had public figure girlfriends? This could be any unknown girl. He was often seeing multiple women at the same time.

[@JaneDoe-bo9tz]

She wasn’t a girlfriend he had casual sex with her once before this

[@aneliaprodanova]

I feel like it’s even more confusing for people to make a decision like that when a person is already being somewhat open about their behaviour and being already accepted than someone who was hiding.

[@christoffesedao3579]

Yeah Brand has a sharp mind. He could easily be using his openness to try and lessen the public impact of bad things he may have done. Just because someone is open does not mean they are innocent. The point is to not make any conclusions right now. Let the investigation speak for itself.

[@alfsmith4936]

I agree. Sorry to compare the case to Sir Jimmy but it was the same with him. He openly boasted about being a pervert, there were well known rumours about him in the industry but they couldn't be proven and he was very quick to threaten legal action to anybody who might mention them. This is going to be in interesting case.

[@CONEHEADDK]

@@eljohndoe6109 Duuuuuhhhhhh

[@CONEHEADDK]

WOW - 2 out of 3 cmnts to this cmnt are sane.. Faaar beond average YT levels...

[@mb8787]

Given that he has admitted to doing hard d's, I find it a little weird he would be so categorically denying any and all wrongdoing... like, does he claim to remember everything he did under the influences..? That would indeed be astonishing, if he really does...

[@BulldogLady347]

There is NO WAY you can describe RB as “right wing” seriously, that’s laughable and tells me you’ve never listened to RB. He asks questions that the powers that be don’t want asked. He champions personal freedom, freedom and speech and questioning things that frankly don’t make sense. That doesn’t make him “right wing”

[@anniewhateverwhenever8936]

Championing personal freedom and free speech are right wing values, the left would have masks and gags on all of us. On economic issues he is more left wing.

[@abdvs325]

Anyone the establishment doesn't like is right-wing now. Completely backwards it was historically always the left wing that challenged power. But now the establishment and centrists want to think of themselves as left-wing because it's trendy and they want to be seen to be inclusive and liking trans people. They label everyone they dislike right-wing.

[@MissSuzGlass]

Andew, I appreciate the way you handled this story. I don't know yet what to make of it, so I'm keeping an open mind.

[@derekwhite2929]

What bigger news is this story being used to distract people from?

[@mypillowguy445]

Negative stories about people you don't like of course!! If you like the person accused it's a distraction, if you dislike the person accused it's the "real" story.

[@Cazza1206]

I feel like you're the only sensible voice out there covering this at the moment Andrew....the internet is frickin insane 😂❤

[@julieg54]

Its not the internet! Its the politics using the media

[@filejacker00]

If it's not meant to represent "the real thing" why publish it?

[@robinhood4640]

It is meant to represent the real thing, that's why it was published. The question isn't, is it meant to represent the real thing? The question is, does it represent the real thing?

[@filejacker00]

@@robinhood4640 obviously. there's plenty of people who will just take it for what it's represented to be; a real undoctored screengrab of a conversion when in fact it's a mock up of a back and forth.

[@robinhood4640]

@@filejacker00 Why "obviously"? Your initial comment isn't clear, it lacks logic.

[@filejacker00]

@@robinhood4640 go be "constructive" somewhere else. You're boring me.

[@iamgazz2756]

As a graphic designer we can usually spot a doctored image a mile away - that's the first thing I noticed, so from the get-go I was skeptical. Also, that image has the Apple Cash icon - Apple Cash only launched in 2017. The icons at the bottom don't match the timeline.

[@danzer369]

The tv media as well as print media DO AS THEY ARE TOLD by the owners of said media.

[@calamfischer7009]

I think you are right there. I thought they would have just straight up disappeared him

[@juneelle370]

Andrew, remember “the banality of evil.” Boring doesn’t equal good. Also corruption all the way to tyranny and what comes with the worst is structured with as few people in the know as possible and the rest simply working in their position, knowing that if you oppose or question, you will lose your position/money. The rest are “just doing their job. Following orders.” Btw I agree about the big lesson you pointed out from that time being that people in the wrong have erected beliefs that put them in the “right” (to ameliorate guilt/justify)… another lesson to not forget is “the banality of evil.” It all was undergirded by boring, supporting bureaucracy.

[@truelove11.11]

The mainstream media is clearly getting desperate in their attempts to shut Russel Brand down. If they let him continue with his truth quest, they won't have any careers soon anyway as their employers will go bankrupt, so you can surely believe that they would put their own careers on the line in a final attempt to shut him up.

[@scottishpensioner2447]

Brand changed himself- very hard to do. He is very honest about his terrible behaviour in the past. During the time of these accusations Brand was no threat to the WEF. During his obnoxious drug and alcohol fuelled days. Now he's clean and well behaved but he is a threat to the WEF so he has to be destroyed.

[@mdmmalou]

Exactly.

[@teslaandhumanity7383]

He has lots of respect for woman , he loves his mom and never spoke ill of ex wife Perry . Never heard in past anything negative about him and woman .

[@FerrariF108]

I subscribed so hopefully that helps balance the numbers 😂 Thanks for the content Andrew, great stuff!

[@audioauracle-dsyswpwanl-]

I bet this situation (like Andrew Tate) is by the numbers 🔤 🔢 #gematria *Reeks/smells of another scripted Jesuit-hood-matrix certified classic* 😅

[@thestraightroad305]

Johnny Depp’s history was different from Brands, as testified by many women who knew him well.

[@robinhood4640]

Anyone who isn't still on the fence, needs to ask themself some serious questions.

[@killerheelscrime]

Did you say the same about johnny depp or Kevin spacey before they went to court?

[@robinhood4640]

@@killerheelscrime I didn't know about Johnny Depp until well into the court case, and i haven't got a clue, what Kevin Spacey was even accused of.

[@inquiringminds6633]

@@robinhood4640Kevin Spacey is still very questionable, there are still accusers who don’t want to press charges. So it’s a flimsy argument to use him. I didn’t follow Johnny Depp either.

[@raum2811]

I believed Spacey was innocent. The accusations against him weren't even that serious. Mostly touching some guys. Except one, which was implausible. But since the others were about touching, not some violent assaults, it made the odd one unlikely. The right-wing, same people who are defending Brand now, believed he was guilty because he's gay/Hollywood whatever. Jonny Depp I also didn't believe was guilty after informing myself a bit. The accusations weren't that serious either. Some marriage quarrels, not more. This guy, however, seems to have been very powerful. Almost Jimmy Saville level of power within powerful media companies, such as the BBC. There have been rumours already and he seems to be an aspiring cult leader nowadays, which testifies to his manipulative personality. The accusations are much more serious and something people wouldn't likely invent. He is more Weinstein than Spacey or Depp.

[@robinhood4640]

@@raum2811 I don't care about either Depp of Spacey, and their cases have little to do with this one. My comment is about the lack of anything other than some accusations and a denial, and that you don't start jumping off fences with so little to chose which side to jump. killerheelscrime is the one interested in the other two cases.

[@lktasl999]

Found your channel through this. I really respect your insight and measured responses to.

[@triwithlaura3138]

Removing a condom or not using one without consent is a crime though. It's a form of 'r'

[@monicageorgson4870]

This is what Assange was accused of doing in Sweden..

[@daveisbrill]

​@@monicageorgson4870and what happened about that Assange allegation?

[@triwithlaura3138]

@@daveisbrill it doesn't matter. The point is it's a crime in itself which those texts allude to something like that happening. That was glossed over and the edits were focused on

[@SocratesoftheNorth]

Im not really up to speed on what is happening in this situation and I haven't ever really watched much of Russell Brand. As a social worker who has worked with many SA victims i find it concerning that an investigation was conducted by the media and now essentially a trial by media, instead of with the police. This in and of itself is a major red flag 🚩 for me.

[@shylo0420]

I hope Russell sues the shit out of these people and the media outlets who have deceminated these horrific allegations.

[@joannerowe7084]

The Headlines on UK newspapers were wild..

[@audioauracle-dsyswpwanl-]

I bet this situation (like Andrew Tate) is by the numbers 🔤 🔢 #gematria *Reeks/smells of another scripted Jesuit-hood-matrix certified classic* 😅

[@marcusmaher-triskellionfil5158]

He can't, watch Shaun Attwood's lawyer an hour ago.

[@50_Pence]

It doesn't matter. It's about reducing people from listening to him

[@milkboccle]

Why aren’t the police dealing with this?

[@lisamatonis4579]

Love that Russell is being painted right wing. Him and his yoga pants.

[@juneelle370]

Yeah we’re at the point where journalists who point out corruption on the left are “right wing.” He’s doing what journalists are supposed to do-exposing corruption is their literal #1 job for the protection of society/democracy! Now msm has sold us all down the river, they paint those doing real journalism as “Russians” or “right wing” even if they are left wing!!! 😂 That said, I hope he tells the truth 100. I hope people are encouraging him to tell the absolute truth. If he did no wrong, stand strong. If he did wrong, confess, apologize, make repair based on what the victims want and need for healing. This would help heal the world, this would be a rare act of accountability for these kinds of crimes.

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

The left has gone so far to the left that everyone in the middle of slightly left now looks right.

[@betmo]

lol the left in the us has gone so far right...they're republicans 🤷‍♀️

[@abdvs325]

​@@LizRealGirlBeauty That's not true. These people making these accusations are not left-wing. They are the Establishment. The Establishment is as far from left-wing as it's possible to be. Russell Brand is left-wing.

[@juneelle370]

@@LizRealGirlBeauty I watch him a lot… what he opposes most is corruption and the mainstream media that touts corrupt political talking points either side. So far as his political beliefs (aka his ideal moral idea of it) it’s definitely “left”. Right now both those terms don’t mean much because we’re facing technocratic tyranny-10,000x explosion of what elitists had at their disposal last century. Tyranny will not look the same as before-the words communism, fascism are really just the same thing now-elitists greed for more wealth/power/control has no end and now the abilities beyond past century’s comprehension. I think finally even the “right” can see the extreme dangers of capitalism-the dangers of amassing too much wealth in too few hands-it’s here and now.

[@Contessa6363]

I see all the Narcissists have their claws out in defense of their fellow Narc. So predictable!!😮😮😮

[@annanikia7949]

You are doing a great job of bringing a balanced reporting of this event. Nate has some very pertinent examples and and explanations! I love Russell Brands you tube program but never did appreciate the drug addled madman that he was before. This case smells like a set up to bring him down, not excusing his bad sexual behavior.

[@paulthegaull]

If I accuse anyone of anything 11 years ago, I'd get laughed out the building. How are people taking this anonymous accusation seriously?

[@joannereeves4121]

Where were these women 20 yrs ago??????????? Sorry, don't buy the excuse that it takes that long to bring to light

[@charliekane135]

Especially after the 'metoo' movement. Perfect opportunity

[@Rhinoskin62]

The man was edgy he was promoted as a bad lad. He lived up to that

[@nightowl8548]

For people who are saying "why now?" - an investigation like this can take many years before it comes out publicly

[@kevinharris2805]

It said 1 year in the documentary.

[@snekiuk]

Because of politics he doesn't "serve them "anymore ...while he was spiting on all before was ok,now while he not on left side anymore let's distroy him..be talks about COVID, Masks and much more no good let's cancel him ..that is the truth but BBC liked him very much before

[@GreedyPuppy7]

Ahhh but then you go to the police and not make a documentary

[@gustaf3811]

If there is any evidence it takes a year at most but 3 years means they have put this at the lowest priority which a name like Brand certainly isnt with all the powerfull people he pissed off by exposing them like Gates.

[@KarlaMcNeese]

Thank you for presenting a fair point of view. It's nice to be able to hear someone think logically and express themselves rationally.

[@StimParavane]

TUG did great work on the Amber Heard case.

[@veronicalutostanski392]

I’m from Texas, so I too love “That Umbrella Guy’s” voice. Sounds like some good ol’ boys around here.

[@patty-pat-pat]

Why are we so hell bent on searching for ANYTHING to prove his innocence without the trial yet? 2 in 3 girls under 14 are sxally assaulted in my country. We live in a culture of gRAPE. Wouldnt it be fantastic if you poored the same amout of energy into combatting & holding the males withing your own group accountable, instead of proving his innocence? I know more women who have been graped than women who havent. Be so for real right now. It's really dissappointing that males will refuse to punish other males when they hurt women & children. And we call you our protectors... gtfoh.

[@cherylbrown-m4i]

im so DONE w the protector propaganda!!! theyre the reason we need protection!!! males will never hold each other accountable. theyre afraid of men too.

[@Edangel14-421]

I'm a victim of SA, that said, NO ONE deserves to be falsely accused of SA to serve an agenda. As w the JD and AH I found it disturbing that the media convicted JD before all the evidence was revealed.

[@MrBait362]

Because the media already labelled him Guilty🤷🏾‍♂️. The media decided to be the Police and the Court

[@MrBait362]

Next time before you text nonsense, just know tomorrow it will be your son who is being accused of this. It is innocent till proven guilty

[@AnandaSea]

Nothing to disagree with there. Thank you.

[@savannahgary6351]

I don't know a thing about Russell Brand... If I ever saw a movie he was in, I missed recognizing him. I've not watched a single video on his channel and until this "scandal" came to light, I never even knew he had a YT channel. What I do know and believe with all of me is facts and evidence IN A COURT of LAW! I want to see a criminal or civil complaint, evidence vetted by attorney's for each party, evidence submitted under The Rules of Evidence in a court of law, witness testimony UNDER OATH, a Judge to be a neutral arbiter of objections, etc., a jury of his peers to listen to all facts and evidence, then a verdict rendered based on what was presented in a court of law! I'm NOT a fan of or believer in trial by media! I'm a fan of people advocating for changes in the law if they don't like the current laws. I'd bet, without checking, the SOL has run both for a civil or criminal case....so the recourse is trial by media since it's easier and quicker to ruin someone's reputation than lobby for changes in the law! At this point, I don't care what Russell Brand did or didn't do...and I'm an f'g survivor of some serious ab#se! Russell is the one with the liability here, not the women since we don't have clear laws to prosecute for exaggerating, making up, or lying about claims of SA by women. He CANNOT defend himself as anything he says CAN and WILL be used against him if by chance these become criminal or civil claims. Now for a mention of you, Andrew...you're a good guy, fair and balanced in your reporting, and it's why I usually check to see what you report before other news sources. I'm a little disappointed that your stance isn't more firmly on the side of trial in a court of law v the media. Looking forward to Nate..💜

[@rlawrence9838]

I think "coming forward" usually includes the accused or at least his lawyer being told WHO the accuser is ASWELL as what the accusations are, so no, it hasn't been "hard" for anyone to "come forward" because no one has come forward, it was about as "hard" as making this KZbin comment if this KZbin comment was anonymous but fifty people were patting me on the back for posting it.

[@geejaybee]

They didn't "come forward" at all. They were hunted down and approached by the agenda driven journalists.

[@laurarominger2073]

I agree totally

[@powderandpaint14]

How do you know the accused hasn't been told, or doesn't know who they re? Just because names haven't been released to the public it doesn't mean that the accused and their lawyers don't know.

[@imacmill]

This blatantly doctored evidence was NOT a mistake. The doubt-casting it has produced is precisely the intended outcome. We'll see why in good time.

[@tyguy104]

Trainspotting Renton to his girlfriend, “Do you know what they’d do to people like me? They cut your B off and flush them down the bleeping toilet!”

[@angelawilliams5153]

I love Russell Brand…. I think he has a sincere heart and wants to help people. I think he’s more honest than 90% of the people out there. I will wait to see what happens here.

[@janesmy6267]

I disagree. I always disliked his character. There was always something disingenuous about the way he talks that makes me not trust him. Having said that, if he’s truly innocent, it is a dark day but I find it highly unlikely considering I never got the feeling he was a likable guy. The reason no one wanted to work with him in UK was because he is/was extremely rude and always pushed people’s boundaries. I would not be surprised if he is found guilty because of the red flags with boundaries and constant rule breaking type behaviour he exhibited on British media. Having said that, if he’s innocent, it is a dark day indeed that 5 different women decided to collude and make a claim against him. I hope they make it formal so thorough investigations and justice can be carried out. He was always a red flag for me but people find him entertaining for some odd reason.

[@bennym5244]

I like him too but they said the same about Cosby even Savile. But there was always dodgy stories. Griffin the Canadian comedian said there was a English comedian who went after any woman that would reject his charms. It's all about this superpower that A list celebrities seem to wield when they have status. However, however, how is it only some celebrities get caught out? R Kelly, Cosby, schofield, Weinstein. Surely there would be multiple multiple a listers getting accusations for misusing their power?

[@FlashNorton]

It doesn't mean the content is manipulated... The edit could be a stitch of two screenshots as it seems to me that the change was from one point downwards. This makes sense because these are screenshots but there is no screen (to my knowledge) what that image's aspect ratio. The noise can be from image compression which happens automatically when an image is sent through apps like WhatsApp. Technically it is a 'manipulation' but it might not necessarily mean the content of the text was changed. The full screenshots might exist and maybe this image was made by the reporter.

[@Trish.Norman]

Then why not just show the texts? It doesn’t look like 2 screenshots. It’s in the same block of text.

[@FlashNorton]

@@Trish.Norman that's why it's labeled as "graphic made by" and the media outlet. They mash them together for reading convenience but that's not how they will be presented at court. Look at AH vs JD, they brought a specialist to testify for hours on the metadata of the photos, do you really think they would but so dumb to edit something in a way a KZbinr would easily spot out? If a KZbinr saw it you better believe they weren't trying to hide that specific thing lol... You need to differentiate a court of law from entertainment media. Smh

[@jonathanmonck-mason6715]

I think it is almost impossible for people who don't personally know Russell Brand to distinguish between what is the real Russell Brand the private person and Russell Brand the performer. I have heard all the allegations, but without hearing the rebuttal side of the argument it is almost impossible to form an opinion.

[@victoriamyatt1709]

Just looking at the statement from "Nadia" about the SA by the painting. I know from personal experience that a taller man cannot "penitrate" a shorter person when in standing position unless the man picks up the woman and places her above him up against the wall. This would require two hands and bearing in mind she stated that her bag was keeping her stuck underneath the painting it would be impossible to lift her up. Plus if she was clothed, another set of hands or at least one hand would be needed to move clothing out the way. Even if underwear was moved aside it wouldn't stay there if not held. Im just picking apart the statement from a purely forensic point of view given the information. Im not trying to invalidate her or what she alleged happened not do i know if he's guilty as its to early to tell.

[@superstormday993]

Agreed

[@sonia.jarrett]

Agree with you

[@zannigan222]

Love your investigation of the facts on both sides. Agreeing with you on every point, dint know what to think yet. Subscribed. Sorry about the close minded people who unsubscribed. Keep being you

[@isildursbane2758]

How can you keep a text for 13 years

[@raum2811]

You would probably keep it if it is evidence of rape.

[@isildursbane2758]

@@raum2811 yes but you don't report it for 11 years and then only to a reporter who hunted you down sounds odd to me I have no idea what the truth is just seems strange

[@isildursbane2758]

@@raum2811 the question is how Apparently it's a photo of texts so its real who knows

[@maxstone6953]

Biggest story in the world right now? There's a few people in eastern Europe that just might disagree.

[@katieforsyth2089]

This is so predictable. He has a voice so the main stream media try and silence him

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

If the texts were cut and paste, we don't know what he was apologizing for. I'm reserving judgement for actual evidence to come out. If there's records from, for example, that crisis center that show that yes, she went on that day, I'll reassess.

[@stevekirkby6570]

Anyone find it odd that these messages were kept and only brought out all these years later?

[@nigelbrayshaw2709]

Not really.

[@stevekirkby6570]

@comment1ism866 I'm very sorry to hear that.

[@daleduncan5080]

I save texts. I have messages from 8 yrs ago in case I need to defend myself against 2 lying narcissists that broke the law, lied and stole.

[@daleduncan5080]

@comment1ism866 this my scenario exactly.

[@jsmithsemper4848]

They all fall down in a line, like toy soldiers. When someone else’s scandal starts dying down, it’s time for another one!!!

[@Zo.theysay]

Thank you Andrew, best vid ive seen of this so far.

[@vronw5782]

I think its a witch hunt. The mighty media bosses just want to make money. Russell should be applauded 👏 for they way he has turned his life around ❤. The saying "he who is without sin, can cast the first stone" comes very much to mind. 😮

[@TSSuppository]

The text exchange is one long image - too long for it to be a single screen capture, since it simply wouldn't all fit on the screen. The splice is around the half-way mark. This suggests to me that it is two (or maybe three) screen grabs that have been spliced together. Nothing sinister, nothing nefarious, just a compilation of multiple screenshots that have been compiled into a single graphic. Therefore the "Graphic by..." attribution is appropriate, but largely irrelevant. That's my takeaway. I think it is also worth mentioning to our American friends that the UK press is a very different beast from the US press. The UK press does not have the first amendment and free speech protections that American media outlets have. For a UK newpaper - one of the "Big Four" Broadsheets, no less - to run with a story of this magnitude without having first scrupulously fact-checked and corroborated it is *exceedingly* unlikely. xx

[@zettie555]

I have an open mind to these accusations but I must say even though I find some of Russells information thoroughly researched at times when watching him, his voice, energy and mannerisms grate on me. Unfortunately, the dark night of the soul has landed at Russells doorstep and he has no choice but to dig deep and look at this.

[@fantasip]

FYI, the copy-paste text doesn't show 'noise', it shows a typically low resolution pixel file. Noise got nothing to do with low resolution so be careful with facts

[@superstormday993]

He's absolutely not right wing!!! He's liberal, in the truest sense of the word

[@unhinged-femme]

He use to be

[@charlottecobain6986]

He’s definitely leaning into an alt-right audience with his rhetoric the last few years…whatever he may be in his private life, he’s certainly embraced the extreme conservative talking points.

[@ronswansonsdog2833]

@@charlottecobain6986exactly.

[@zohramartini9425]

That's the difference of definition we see in Europe vs USA. I also think he is a real liberal which leans towards left wing but in the European definition of right wing (until recently) is what he sometimes portray imo

[@lolalouise9503]

@@charlottecobain6986He doesn’t consider himself either actually, he’s said this many times on his channel.

[@fiberfarmstead]

Lots to this. I appreciate your Journalism. Thank you.

[@newsoftheday420]

The text messages are a key part in this. After researching it turns out you cant retrieve old txt's from 12 years ago. This means the woman kept the phone or a memory card with the txt's on it for twelve years. That's some cold and caculated behaviour right there.

[@SAHBfan]

That is a good point - it is odd to have 12 year old text messages ‘available’ as evidence.

[@rachelnelson3923]

After everything that happened with Marilyn Manson it’s hard to believe anything anymore. And if he was doing all of those drugs how could he even remember half of what he did?

[@sarahg2653]

Well now I'm more confused. If that "no means no" text came AFTER she ran out of his house (when he allegedly pushed her up against the painting and tried to do stuff) then how could the text be referencing using protection, as opposed to referencing consent for intercourse? Did I miss the time line here? She wouldn't be upset over not using a condom bc, luckily, nothing happened. But she would def be upset about if she felt that her cries about "no" to s*x were ignored. I'm confused.

[@kittyninja9571]

Supposedly different people

[@jaket4763]

The allegation wasn’t that he tried to do stuff. It’s a rape allegation, so it makes sense that she would be concerned about stds.

[@sarahg2653]

@@jaket4763 Ahhh. I must have missed that. That makes sense now

[@HellaQuinn]

I just don’t get why he would even bother doing that to her if he already had someone else in the next room but I mean okay

[@sistersister8830]

The problem with that no means no statement is the part after no is or has been changed which is what this video is about. Did you watch it?