Brompton My Line: FULL UPGRADE of my 2007 Brompton - can you guess the final weight?

[@TwistedWheels]

Use code 'twistedwheels' for 10% OFF (!) on vincita.cc/collections/brompton-bags

[@tomanicodin]

This video is a masterpiece among most of the junk videos that populates KZbin nowadays. Thank for the effort!!! 💛

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks, Toma. Great to read such comments 😃👊🏼

[@tomanicodin]

I'm rewatching this now that I have a Brompton myself :)

[@fahmi9]

Came and skipped the video for the quick upgrades and eventual weight. Ended up rewinding and watching the entire video for the brilliant editing and cinematography!

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks for the feedback, mate. Glad you liked the video :)

[@MartininitraM]

New subscriber. Finally I found the kind of video I was looking for. I just purchased my 4th Brompton (don't ask why I've got 4, it is a disease) and the latest would be the perfect bike for a similar modification. What I still don't get after viewing you video several times is how the 7 speed external shifter process works. Any chance of a more detailed video? I don't need a slick production like this one, just a view of the shifter process and the parts involved.

[@twowheelsintokyo7039]

A very well made video. As a former Brompton owner, there were two shortcomings with the bike, the lack of gearing range, and the weight. I used to commute by bike and subway, and keep my bike under my desk at work. Navigating two Tokyo subway stations and their countless stairs was a little difficult carrying the Brompton. Then there was the lack of gearing, which made some of Tokyo's hills impossible to get up without dismounting and pushing the bike up to the top. In those days there weren't many options available for upgrading gearing or using ligher parts, so I ended up getting a Birdy, which was lighter, had more gears, and which folded quite small, if not as small as the Brompton. But, now that there is a much larger aftermarket for the Brompton, I've bought a fixer-upper bike, and am looking forward to seeing how far I can go with it.

[@mranonymous8815]

I have a Birdy too, and I can say it doesn't come even close to the folding size of the Brompton. Similarly, the folding procedure with the Birdy is not as close as smooth as with the Brompton (actually it's a pain while dirty hands are guaranteed afterwards because one has to grasp the fork by hand). Birdy just rides better, so if you don't have to fold often and don't have to take the bike on the train often and never on the bus, it might be the better choice.

[@nawaal4452]

Not a fan of big buts, I see. What a lovely colour that is! Perfect for a Brompton

[@natjes6017]

Kinda fun watching a true weight weenie, well done!

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks 😄

[@dennisproskourin2417]

So funny and interesting to watch. Well done Oleg!

[@thorthratt]

This is amazing! I was wondering how much the final weight would change by adding a Swytch kit to the mix

[@TwistedWheels]

Stay tuned as I might be doing this in one of my next videos ;)

[@CaffeineJogger]

m3r brompton 3 speed of course, with swytch Max Battery, fenders, 2010 model 14.5 kgs. INcludes mks detachable pedals and hold fast toe supports.

[@sashalysenkov]

Очень круто! Смотрел и прям ждал сравнения по весу и прайс апгрейда

[@TwistedWheels]

Спасибо. Главное, что дождался :)

[@taejoonkim3693]

Thank you very much for your experimental and informatice video! I am trying to follow you with several things with my brompton M6R, and I am curious which wheels that you changed to front and rear based on the information around 6:00 in your video. Have a nice day with your upgraded brompton:-)

[@GilSotero]

Great e amazing work! thank for sharing!

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks mate!

[@mrwinstonwolfe]

Great video!

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks!

[@josephd9079]

can you share more details on your cassette and your shifter as in where did you buy them and which 5 gears did u select ? Thanks

[@CurdPattysRoll]

I like your bike madness

[@TwistedWheels]

Haha my wife would disagree with you 😂

[@raulmanashky328]

Soon as I win Lotto...I'm gona buy a Brompton..first thing ,LV em..

[@addario]

I've been in the market for a brompton or vello rocky folding bike, wondering with having all the other bikes has the brompton seen much use, was it worth adding to your collection? I have an ebike and a road bike but thinking a folder might be worth the investment.

[@OLLO_TV]

Looks very nice 👍

[@ryandavis3833]

Which helmets are hanging up (are you wearing) at the end?

[@TwistedWheels]

These are Sweet Protection Outrider. BTW, I’m selling the green one that I was riding in the video, if you are interested?

[@DaveTheBird]

Enjoyed the video, does anyone know the make and model of the helmet he is wearing ? I like that it does not come so far down on the sides.... PS I do not have a brompton but a six speed litepro clone, which has / had a few issues (build quality, especilly assembly and lubrication, well lack of :(), but for the price not so bad I would say.....

[@jloy630]

Nice video! Was there rust found on the bike? If yes, how did you removed it? Cheers! Enjoy your ride!

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks. Luckily no rust on mine

[@thomasq5997]

Nice. Since you went from an internal hub gear to external, did you have to modify the drop outs at all?

[@TwistedWheels]

No, I didn’t

[@petrcecil2622]

Hi, how happy are you with Schwalbe One? lot of people complain about frequent punctures

[@wingcreator]

I use Schwalbe Kojak Tanwell are great tyres.

[@jameshunter-jones3633]

Truly inspirational video... Why didn't you go for carbon wheelset?

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks. Two reasons: 1) price 2) weight difference was pretty small with the aluminium wheelset that I used

[@jameshunter-jones3633]

Thanks for the response... My advice would be to add affiliate links to the items you bought so you can generate some additional revenue

[@bfeltovi]

Carbon wheels have braking issues in the wet and require special brake pads. And sometimes fragile, depending on maker.

[@sauravbasu8805]

The filming was top-notch ! Which camera and lens/lenses were used to make this video ?

[@TwistedWheels]

Sony A7 iii, Sony A6600, Tamron F2.8 28-75mm

[@Dave-lr2wo]

13 year old components aren't old, amigo. 60 year old components are pretty old. There are TONS of great, highly-functional, lightweight components that are 30 years old. There are cat-1 race-quality components that are 15 years old. And nothing you're riding at any age is making you much faster (unless you're a top-level pro rider).

[@TwistedWheels]

In 13 years bike industry has gone miles! Of course you can ride 30-year old components, but I choose progress.

[@Dave-lr2wo]

@@TwistedWheels I get it, but the "bike industry" will happily tell you that what you're riding is "old" and far too many people buy into that. Where I live, the riders of the same ability and physcial capacity for generation after generation have been riding -- mostly guys and some women from 20s-70s. From year to year, those riders do not become more capable, they are an average of all average riders. Yet year after year, they all spend huge amount of money on "what's next", but guess what?! They're not riding appreciably faster than the riders of 10, 20, and 30 years ago. I have my dad, uncle, and their riding partners' riding logs from the 1980s. They are EXACTLY the same average speeds as most good recreational riders TODAY, and they were NOT in drafting groups but instead riding steel racing bikes with downtube shifters and glue-ups. Where I live in a town of 35,000 people and in nearby cities of about the same size, there is about 3 million dollars of bike equipment on the road in a 20-mile radius on a weekend morning. That's how bike companies think. The ONLY progress that exists for riders is radical design changes and safety. But you can't predict what radical changes are meaningful or worthy buying. Any many are not (softride? biopace/elliptical chainrings? about a thousand mountain bike suspension concepts? klein mantra? slingshot? plastic itera frame? rev-x wheels? mektronic? list is endless...)

[@danm5021]

Wow - amazingly the original bike here was my old bike!!! Loved that thing and regretted selling it. Now have another one but sadly not British racing green...

[@soulmaaan]

Could you please make a video guide on how you upgraded your gearset? My igh is heavy and i can't find a good guide on external gear upgrade. THANKS and very good vid. I'm subscribing

[@roberts8783]

How are the Ali express parts going after a year ? anything broken ? be good to hear which were most effective per cost ? I guess perhaps seat post, saddle and mud guards ?

[@tomedward8652]

I think the easiest and cheapest components for weight reduction are the seatpost, handlebars and bottom bracket. I think these represent best bang for buck.

[@drumheed]

saddle

[@jmanuelforero3850]

It would be nice to have to links to the upgrades you have done here, it would work for you as well to monetize your experience.

[@zenza7120]

Best Brommie video ever!! May I ask you if 5 speed has any negative effect while (un)folding? Which cogs did you use? Do any of third parts fail so far? Thanks again for the great video!

[@shenzhenpingpong]

Great video! I don't even own a Brompton, but you make me want to buy one.

[@Sinc28-95]

Great video! Always excited to see your projects, never considered something like a Brompton myself but it goes hand in hand with London living!

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks, mate. I know! I would never think that I would ever own a Brompton. But never say “never” haha

[@imanahsana2794]

The editing skills and bike workmanship in this video is amazing! Thank you for sharing. If you have time, do you mind adding the weight savings and purchase costs on each part in the description too? Or if you don't have time, just the purchase cost of the most weight saving parts! I would like to make my brompton lighter but the parts are incredibly expensive! Would be interested to see how you converted from a Sturney Archer 3 speed internal to an external 5 speed as well. Thanks again!

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks mate. The most weight saving is on the new wheels. I paid £190 for the wheels + £70 for the tyres + £40 for the tubes. The next one would be the saddle and the seatpost. Seatpost cost me just £20. Used saddle was £140, but saddles are really a personal preference and comfort is more important than weight, so I’d suggest that you go with the model you like.

[@imanahsana2794]

@@TwistedWheels Thanks for the info! Can't wait for your video from going internal hub to external cassette :)

[@ulysse1rikard]

@@TwistedWheels Such an inspiring video! Do you or any of the followers here know where to purchase the Silverock wheels? I couldnt find them available online. Cheers!

[@TwistedWheels]

@@ulysse1rikard thanks! I bought them on Aliexpress

[@jeremynorth]

Now you should do the same to a new titanium Brompton

[@1799-b3o]

Awesome production & give us so much valuable info on how to build a lighter bike!! May i just know why u opt to just put 5 speed instead of the full 7 speed on the cassette? Izit becos it will affect the folding?

[@Veterans2009]

How is it after 1 year? Is it still there?

[@DDLD75]

Wish I could be like you but I don’t even know how to change a tyre and I am waiting for my second B this week my first one, BE got it last two months and it’s almost 16kg ;(

[@boxrick1]

This is a superb video, you came up on my recommended list. Very well put together and you answered all the niggles I was thinking about as I was watching... I recently got a P Line and am trying to improve the gearing on it. Would love to hear your experience of the shifting in detail, in particular how the SRAM shifter works when its designed for so many more gears than 5?

[@YerDad632]

Lowest common denominator content. Gotta make light light light. 26lbs is too heavy. Couldn’t find parts online. Dude. Go ride your bike and go to a brick and mortar dealer for stuff. KZbinrs aren’t going to keep the bike world rolling, bike shops are.

[@MrAjayz]

hahah if you think Brompton bikes are expensive in the UK you should see how VERY VERY expensive they are in Australia. But or city apartment living they are fantastic and the best bike I've owned.

[@MsShaun666]

Wonderful! It would be really nice if you could post a shopping list of the bits you bought. Many thanks

[@谢春晖-k4t]

wow,that is really fanstatic;2 years ago I also rebuilt my Dahon bike,I changed everything except the main frame body,even the main body,I had it change to another color;I did not make it light,I did make it more beautiful,when I see it,I just want to ride it.

[@antoniomiguelmm205]

Amazing project and bike simply finished beautiful! Congrats!

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks, Antonio!

[@steveevans2021]

Outstanding video - I’m after a similar rack, I see it’s unbranded from your details above could you share the link 🔗 to the seller? Many thanks 🤩

[@phungmoe2302]

That is bcos... ur in the UK. Come to Singapore..... U Can buy all 3rd parties until u've got no more $$ 😁

[@melwtan]

Stop fat shaming my Brompton 2009. Just kidding, I'd love for it to lose some weight. It's even heavier than yours because I have the telescoping pole so I can roll the bike by the seat while it remains locked in folded position. I love your new pedals!!!

[@dufff]

Looks amazing! One thought - given some lower quality/lighter parts, do you have any more anxiety riding it generally?

[@ericbouv4070]

Would you do this on mine? Also bought it second hand, much older than yours, heavy as a dead donkey.

[@jkevinAH]

Any issues or concerns experienced with the upgrades after 1 or 2 years?

[@clebiofs1]

Could you give the name of the website where you bought the used Brompton in London?

[@waicheonghon8912]

People do a lot of modifications to Brompton in China. But most Bromptons in England are stock setup.

[@letsif]

What aboutadding ti handlebar stem?

[@Alex-j3b6l]

Я родом из Украины и чувствую по произношению родственную душу из какой-то бывшей страны СССР или страны Варшавского договора

[@hassansuffyan7835]

Hi, did you end up changing the stem? If so, where did you source it from?

[@Alex-j3b6l]

does it make sense to install 20" wheels with disc brakes?

[@car5car5]

English people love playing with toys! Your next bike should be Montague Paratrooper (I have Hummer, old name). In about 100 years Brompton will learn to weld aluminum....

[@rkrock2514]

Brilliant Build! Subbed. I Hope to do this same thing; find a used Older model Brompton, upgrade So-So OEM parts with quality affordable components, & ride it like I stole it. You rock, Amigo. Thanks for this Guide to a "Better Brompton"! Looks Sweet.

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks, Amigo!

[@DougieSSyd]

Gave me some great ideas to lighten up my Brompton… thanks mate!

[@TwistedWheels]

You are welcome 👊🏼

[@vuquanganh6530]

so you didnt change out the Brake calipers am i correct? thank you

[@noelnarfin5620]

Could you please tell me which internet shop did you buy it

[@wapperjaw8282]

TU on the video and the Bike looks good 12.6 down to 9KG (27.8 to 19.8 lbs.) amazing. Concerning the tires ... does the bike ride smoother???

[@nicholasallingham955]

Kudos to you for making a great video about the Brompton. It's good that you found such a great second-hand option. That said, I don't think 1300 pounds for a new Brompton is an outrageous price for a bike that can last literally decades. A carbon road bike won't last anywhere near that long, and will be more much expensive. Regarding weight, all steel bikes will be somehwat heavier, but I think most commuters would value durability over weight savings.

[@TheMakomirocket]

It is worth it, the issue is the sticker shock to someone who has the correlation of bike = easily stealable. You are buying the Brompton to avoid it being stolen, yet it is still a mindset you need to get yourself out of Also, here he has upgraded it to a 6 gear, so the comparison would be to the £1900 bikes

[@KarlOnSea]

Hi - that was great! I currently have a second hand S2 (2015?), and have been eyeing up the new full titanium Brompton. But now I'm thinking that a set of upgrades like this, coupled with switching out the forks & rear triangle for titanium might be fun and a whole lot less money!

[@TwistedWheels]

Sounds like a plan!

[@docloco86]

I’m with you! I too have an s2L and will do a titanium fork and rear triangle build plus other improvements to get it around 8kg

[@bolulm4012]

Well done. But green paint bars woud be nice. (Happy rolling then..)

[@WilliamPhillippe]

Brilliant stuff!

[@mrbuddha5263]

Couple of months later what would you change with the build up? I've just purchased a brompton for cheap and am looking to a similar build. Awesome Build!

[@TwistedWheels]

Nothing has changed :)

[@universeofbash]

Awesome video. Great editing skills. Being on the heavier side I wonder how your modifications effect the maximum load? Good tip on lowering the number of gears however to getting the weight lower (you can live quite easily with only 2 gears in my experience on London roads/bridges).

[@ianross225]

Superb effort! My mountain bike shrunk by 1kg just by going tubeless and summer tyres. Amazing that I noticed it vs 13kg start weight so yours is staggering. I’m N+1 on motorbikes too. It’s a tough sell where N=9……..

[@drewsmith7726]

I keep coming back and watching this video again. It’s so good. Thanks for sharing it.

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks Drew!

[@boatscrypto5856]

the titanium frame would make it to light

[@hoser7706]

Love it!! Great modern changes. Is it still holding up? How much did you buy the used Brompton for? Just curious total cost vs new purchase

[@TwistedWheels]

Still holding up but owned by a different person. I show all the prices in the video ;)

[@suzstancova4220]

This was very interesting to watch! love the bike!

[@JCBsite]

best Brompton upgrade I see, EVER! thanks for sharing that cool stuff

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks, mate. Glad to hear :)

[@torokun]

Kinda don't dig the trend of going all black parts in the bicycle and motorcycle world these days. :(

[@TwistedWheels]

It’s a personal preference, I guess. I think it looks good on this specific bike. On my upcoming builds, I’ll be using some silver components.

[@dolphinlover1691]

Next stage...converting it to ⚡ 😂

[@andrecun7287]

Bro is it ok to ride an old bromton? I heard non titanium brompton last only 10 years. .i am worried if i ride old brompton then frame will break or whatsoever.any explanation?? Ty

[@TwistedWheels]

It is ok to ride an old brompton 😃

[@alexandermanalo7244]

Great upgrade! Can you post your video on changing the internal gear hub to external? Ride safe! Subscriber here from Manila Philippines!

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks, Alexander! I might do in the future. Currently have 4 more videos to film/edit 😬

[@alexandermanalo7244]

Thank you! More power!

[@mrbuddha5263]

What Headset did you use for the build? I'm building an all blacked out 2007 that I should get a hold of this weekend, have most of the parts on hand just need a few more.

[@TwistedWheels]

Hylix from Ebay

[@bjoernaltmann]

Yes it is really difficult to find parts for the Brompton that actually work and look good

[@vroteg]

And it’s not Brompton anymore. You literally made Chinese fake…

[@TwistedWheels]

I kept the frame - that’s what makes it a Brompton. Replacing standard parts doesn’t make your bike fake. Let’s take Cannondale, Trek, Specialized and any other brand. They are making framesets, but the rest is made by other brands specialized in producing bike components: shimano, sram, pro, garbaruk, syncros, etc etc Installing those parts on your bike does not make it fake.

[@simonmurfin1910]

That’s brilliant and my sort of project. Very helpful research for others as well

[@DJHEADPHONENINJA]

What do you do after being invited to stay the night and you can't get it up in bed? you guessed it. You just fold it and take it on a public transport.

[@TwistedWheels]

Hahaha

[@DP-zt3dw]

Amazing

[@tumadoireacht]

Would you do such an upgrade for others ?

[@James-ti3vl]

BRAVO! exactly the video i was looking for but couldn't find as I'm building my own brompton now too! Only difference is i started out with purchasing a titanium frameset... now i'm going to see if I can get exactly the same rest of the parts as you did for the same cost :D

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks! Good luck with your project!

[@plsdonttttt]

3sixty frameset?

[@polipop1113]

Do you share your project somewhere? Interested to learn and see progress.

[@Ram-69]

Rear 2 Cable abit short.

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

My LightweightH6LXBrompton has an original fork and backframe from titanium (If brompton had come with the new Titanium model a little before, when I bought mine as a new bike in 2019, I would have bought that, as the price is now about the same, it seems, as mine then, at least here in Denmark!) , and a new titanium seatpost (Sadly a long 600 mm as I'm a rather tall person), with a ring instead of a clamp for my new seat, Selle San Marco. I have fittet two ordinary "plastic wheels" on my, new AceOffix lightweight tensioner, as I don't like the noise that the metal wheels make (It was, luckily possible, but most likely not intended, to buy it without the wheels!) And I have a new J.K. headset to be mounted ( + the proper tools for the job!). And the heavy metal "clamps" for my mudguards titanium struts, to - carbon! The original metal ones actually weighs a lot, I found out by changing the one wheel to a double, and larger wheel set, for better transport when folded!

[@kwhatten]

How tall are you?

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

@@kwhatten I'm 184 cm

[@finncarlbomholtsrensen1188]

With some additions, a 535 cm titanium seat post and still with mudguards, my bike weighs 9,35 kilo!

[@BrickyTrainWhoosh]

Sweet

[@docloco86]

You kept the original rear triangle, forks and stem?

[@TwistedWheels]

@@docloco86 yes

[@James-ti3vl]

For the rear tensioner that did not support 7 speed, what is the other one that you ended up buying/using? Thanks!

[@Danny-Do-It]

Hey - would you help me reduce the weight of my Pline? I could pay you for the work

[@TwistedWheels]

Yes, I can. Drop me a message in Instagram: Twisted_Wheels

[@cristinatroccoliwilliams1389]

Great project! What wheels did you use and where did you get them from?

[@andresgonzalezcerda7635]

Very well filmed!!. Congrats. What camera / lens did you use on final shot?

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks, Andres. Sony A7iii + Tamron f2.8 28-75mm

[@alantay9409]

Brilliant upgrades! You are the man to look for when I need your help on my Brompton.

[@edisontavera4819]

Do you have any review on litepro carbon seatpost? Cheers

[@TwistedWheels]

Never used one

[@HolgerNestmann]

Amazing. I got myself a new c-line brompton and its even more heavy. But I still love it. But yours was an inspiration to maybe get a second hand or chinese knockoff and convert it into a superlight

[@TwistedWheels]

They are great bikes indeed. I think T line should be great, but the price tag 🤯

[@wingcreator]

Don't do Chinese Ti knock off. Just get an old Brompton and modify.

[@wingcreator]

@@TwistedWheels T line is too expensive. A superlight with some mod will be fine. Of course the Ni Ti Superlight is my dream bike.

[@murugnimai]

I can see Lot of hard in this video…you deserve millions of subscribers…very nice videography, music.. keep it up.. thanks for nice review from 🇮🇳

[@TwistedWheels]

Thanks! Appreciate it :)

[@SlicedSlappy]

Ban chinese bike parts