Two Best Friends Play Silent Hill Homecoming (Part 9)

[@InugamiTheHound]

"These wounds cannot heal"-Doc Fitch "CRAWLING IN MY SKIN"-Pat

[@hypnodog001]

As soon as I saw "These wounds cannot heal" I hoped they'd do it. And they did. I love two best friends play.

[@jjj7790]

9:28 I love this Pat quote so much. It's such a good description of game design failing to hold up to the narrative.

[@thelaughingrouge]

jjj7790 But the narrative is complete garbage that only holds up if you don't examine it more than at all.

[@HeroSword_P]

SHOCKWAVE ARMS!

[@SpecterPlays]

The best part about this boss fight is how expressionless his face is when she's strangling him. He's just like "Oh. You're choking me? :I"

[@elliew6765]

ah yes I approve of this profile picture

[@Acesahn]

He cant be bothered.

[@Yayofangamer16]

Specter Plays Horror

[@roflcopter_launchpad1116]

9:00 When you're out in Silent Hill, and you can't keep still, DO THE CREEP! DO THE CREEP!

[@thegoldcucco7772]

Scarlet, or as I like to call her, "One of the devs spent too much time watching Tool music videos".

[@HeroSword_P]

**Tool - Schism bass line plays**

[@DibbzTheLoner]

I think the frame rate is so low due to the excessive use of moving shadows due to the fan. They could have easily fixed it by making the fan move slightly slower, and also maybe reducing the number of blades on the fan from 8 down to 4, so that the engine doesn't freak out at how you're making it recalculate shadows fifty times per second...

[@bitwawesome7089]

Romance girl

[@x_Skeleton_x]

This game could have been one of the best in the series. How do you fuck this up so bad? If there was just a competent team behind this game, I mean, the things you could do with it's thematic concept! He's a damn soldier, returning home from war, and give him some serious post-traumatic stress issues that manifest as literal and metaphorical demons. Each one representing an aspect of war and the horrors of it. There was so much to work with thematically AND THIS PIECE OF SHIT IS WHAT WE GOT?!

[@maverickjohnson1399]

Six years too late, but you're one of the many to point this out! They dropped the ball, I'm sure there are a handful of people worth blaming. Out of 1-5 serrated great knives, what would you give this game?

[@SuperSonicFan172]

You are clearly one of the fanboys that cries whenever the creators try to innovate. Sometimes innovative ideas can be bad, but this is not the case. Its true that in comparison with the first two games, this game stays in the dark, but that doesnt mean its a bad game. Solid 7/10.

[@Spiralpaladin]

@@SuperSonicFan172 It wasn't developed by Konami though. They outsourced it to Double Helix because they didn't want to do it themselves, similarly to Downpour being outsourced to Vatra Games and Book of Memories being outsourced to Wayforward. After Silent Hill 4, they just stopped caring. And there's a difference between innovation and taking one step forward and two steps back. The first four games certainly didn't have great combat, but survival horror wasn't meant to focus heavily on combat. It's supposed to focus on imagery, atmosphere, dread, intricate puzzles, creatively frightening enemy designs, and only fighting when you have to. Both Homecoming and Downpour take two MASSIVE steps back in terms of quality because Konami just didn't care. They're far from the worst games ever, but for the series they belong to, they just end up dropping so much of what makes Silent Hill what it is.

[@maylabrown4584]

@@SuperSonicFan172 2 years late, but you have to be braindead to put this past anything but a 4/10, if that.

[@_phco]

All I can fucking hear from Pat is just "See what I mean?" and "PERFECT!" This was a YEAR before Navi Pat!

[@SlowDownWaitASecond]

wow resident hill downcoming looks great (^:

[@SuperSkyblader]

Scarlet's design, more specifically the second phase, is based off an enemy who I think is called "Mother" in the Silent Hill Arcade game they mentioned early. So..one of the better designs in this game wasn't even original.

[@zacmortar524]

Actually, Mother was based on/inspired by Scarlet. Silent Hill Homecoming came out in 2008, while the Arcade came out in 2009. So Scarlet is still original.

[@TheReclaimer1321]

Lord Zachariah Nope, Arcade came out in '07, but '08 in Europe. That said, Scarlet MAY still be original since Homecoming was announced in '04. We must note that it went through many changes and took forever to come out. Either way, both ended up horrible, so it doesn't really matter eh?

[@zacmortar524]

ShadedExistence The Arcade wasn't horrible, actually, and was super fun for what it was. It's a GREAT arcade shooter with a decent story. Just because it's not a "normal game" doesnt make it bad.

[@TheReclaimer1321]

Lord Zachariah Oh no, it has nothing to do with being not a "normal" SH game. I also didn't mean the game was bad, more that it wasn't received very well overall, although Homecoming is just bad. I think Shattered Memories was amazing, and it definitely wasn't your "normal" SH game, although it was closer than Arcade. I just think, personally, with the SH license attached to it, it shouldn't have been an arcade shooter. But as a game, yeah, it was okay.

[@milessiegfield5323]

So the homecoming bosses almost followed a sort of grand theme of death by suffocation (Bartlett buried alive, Shepard drowning, Holloway choking), but for some reason they broke the "formula" for Scarlet. I guess you could say that the theme is just the "Loss of." That's really broad though. Probably something else and I'm not looking at it the right way.

[@Meitti]

No the bosses followed the method the kids were murdered with. Scarlet got sliced up.

[@milessiegfield5323]

Meitti That is not exactly what I was going over. Yes all the bosses relate to the death of the families' kids, but I was pondering about how the ways of killing relate to each other in order to find a common link between them and possibly have a revelation about something or other. Like I said: Bartlett couldn't breath, Shepard couldn't breath, and Holloway couldn't breath. Those are why they died. Though Scarlet is the "odd one out" as she died after getting dismembered(? I think that's what it was, been a while since I thought about it. ) Side note: There's also the other weird thing about consistency with the Holloway boss but Pat goes over it so whatever.

[@Meitti]

Miles Siegfield Eh, I think that was just a mistake in design, not distinguishing the themes enough from themselves so people can get confused. Bit like if there was the usual element-themed worlds and then 3 of them would have lava in them somewhere, people would get confused what is supposed to be the earth temple, what is the lava temple, what is wind temple and so on. Well actually in Ultima Pagan there is a design flaw like that. It has the exact elemental areas but all of them are just dull grey and have catacombs in them :D

[@Blitzthesquirrle]

Scarlet has the creepiest theme in the whole game

[@DRSAICO]

I'm gonna be honest, this boss fight scared the FUCK out of me when I first saw it. Dolls are so creepy and this design with the dark lighting (or, rather, regular lighting for this stupid game) and the eerie music just really freaked me out.

[@personreviewslife]

Besides Star Wars, I think another movie that used wipes was Battlefield Earth. Besides wanting to walk out on that movie, that was the one thing I vaguely remember. Would watch it again to confirm, but I just don't want to go there again...

[@FreedomHero4]

Watch the nostalgia critic video of it, he shows it within like the 1st 5 minutes

[@PlagueOfGripes]

Guess I was bored at the right moment.

[@mattfick5502]

"Hit her with rocks" truly advice we must apply in everyday life

[@DustinT2007]

The reason the Scarlet fight took as long as it did was that her left forearm still had armor on it. It was almost impossible to see though thanks to the blood all over her body and since the room is dark as balls, but nonetheless entertaining. Go Matt!

[@TooMuchSascha]

Matt had to play the Kane & Lynch 2? I am so sorry, Matt.

[@InugamiTheHound]

don't you remember the machinima episode they play kane and lynch two.

[@keystrix3704]

Navi Pat is strong with this video! 5:41, 6:06, 6:47, 8:41 x2,

[@EmpressTiffanyOfBrittany]

LISTEN, YOU BIG FUCKING BABY

[@MrGMoney1944]

I guess Pat killed all the Quarians...

[@GianniMatragrano]

"I don't know shit about no boss fights. You can't judge me." - Pat 2013

[@leoincognito1776]

Battlefield Earth also has wipes. Of only one kind...

[@weir-t7y]

That boss makes no fucking sense. "Her porcelain armor" "PORCELAIN ARMOR" And yet it takes multiple axe hits and bullets to break. Porcelain falls like 2 feet onto carpet and breaks.

[@maverickjohnson1399]

Porcelain is pretty strong though. I could see why special Silent Hill porcelain doesn't break easily.

[@michaelcreech8957]

Scarlet is my favorite boss for silent hill and the only boss that actually scares me

[@satorukuroshiro]

My favorite version of Linkin Park's Crawling is the joke version someone made to put over caterpillar footage that replaced every other word with the word crawl.

[@TonyBMan]

did I hear Matt say "...like that Thousand Cuts section of Kane and Lynch..." ? borderlands. Also, funny how Matt refuses Pat's advice to hit her with rocks when his last visit to Silent Hill saw him picking up every stray brick and rock in the entire city.

[@oscarc9231]

he is referring to the scene in kane and lynch 2 where they are being cut by some asian dude.

[@agmflatline808]

+TonyBMan Thousand Cuts is an ancient form of torture, involving carving a dude up 1000 times, but missing every major artery so you dont bleed out. Pretty nasty stuff.

[@oscarc9231]

9 months later

[@agmflatline808]

5 or so days later

[@oscarc9231]

touche

[@IamWalkingDead1]

Am I the only one that has seen the rules of nature video of this? Somebody played rules of nature to this boss fight and it becomes amazing!

[@TheReclaimer1321]

***** Clearly you've never played/or watched someone play the tragedy that was the DMC reboot...Those can't be saved...Not even by Rules of Nature, My Own Master Now, AND The Only Thing I Know For Real in the game.

[@Inn0c3ntGuy]

God I love watching you guys. This is my number 1 favorite channel to watch! ^_^

[@coryandrews9235]

"Shepherd's Glenn makes Flash games for iOS." wat

[@Richarrizard]

Gosh, I love Matt & Pat. Seriously the best people who do playthroughs. :)

[@drentify]

the fight with scarlet really reminds me of the lost sinner fight in dark souls 2...

[@BreadandFaxes]

Except you can actually hurt Lost Sinner without having to rip off its dumb armor.

[@drentify]

Touché

[@manabluerose]

There was no excuse to how dark that boss fight was. what the hell, Team double helix.

[@179jfkla]

Its Pat's carefully calibrated TV to ensure that he can't see shit

[@weir-t7y]

CRAAAAAAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIN

[@HeyitsTom999]

I sure do love how all the poetry in this game is shit. Basic adherence to established cadence is super hard, you guys.

[@joesmoe3252]

18:23 Deep clipping.

[@Proserpira]

Why go to space to marry your cousin when you can just go to Switzerland where it's 100% legal?

[@AncelDeLambert]

Or Japan, land of Liams.

[@Pumapants1]

Or in about 45 states in America.

[@maverickjohnson1399]

@@Pumapants1 It is NOT 45 states you ignoramus!

[@freedyz24]

All the budget went into the sealed plank door smashing animation.

[@nuttyahermit_]

It was a pregnant mechanical spider with a head resembling an oldschool camera. Amazing design. Just amazing.

[@UberHatapon]

Scarlet looks really creepy. Love the elongated limbs and the slow, steady walk at the beginning of the fight. The damaged effects on her body and her theme is cool, too. Wish more of the monsters were like that.

[@jimmyvirgo9120]

hurry up with part 10 lol anxiously waiting :) and thank you for these lovely videos, they brighten the day :D

[@Zap_R0sdower]

23:23 That dead smog vanishes literally right in full frame. SO IMMERSIVE.

[@Kit942]

I keep coming back just for "SHOCKWAVE ARRRRMS!"

[@theshawnarm]

Medical training, and a psychology degree. Pat is an enigma.

[@chrisgostanian6753]

The people who made this game apparently thought that child/insect mashups are the scariest thing ever, and they wanted you to know. Repeatedly.

[@TheOriginalElkstone]

"Start with her legs or chest" Pro tip for life

[@aidlord23]

As well as not having a discernible head, I think Scarlet would also be way creepier if she tried to kill you by trying to pull you apart limb from limb. And possibly if she was wearing a red dress, as shown in her concept art.

[@Texan_Patriot]

23:54 Matt wanted to yell "SKY CRIME!" so badly....you can hear it in his voice. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nathaneskin3572]

After playing Strider it's clear to me that Double Helix has quite a lot of interest in action games. They probably didn't even have any interest in this game but Konami probably offered them so much money they couldn't refuse, so we got this half assed nonsense.

[@methadevil1527]

This boss fight is so hard, the fact i cant beat it makes me wanna play a different game, but then i just look at all of the games and just shrug, sit back down, and sigh

[@shadowprophet88]

I think you have to use the pipe to pry her armor off when she goes down. Because Scarlett doesn't RESPECT THE PIPE!

[@Animeman36]

The Silent Hill Clinic, the closest thing to a hospital second to Pyramid Head in an alley.

[@Wet-Mice]

She wasn't dismembered. She was just hit with rocks.

[@Anony1412]

You guys might be surprised (read: not surprised) to know that the Scarlett fight is super-glitched. Sometimes it glitches to the point of unbeatability, where the mode-change quicktime event is unable to be done properly. I was actually wondering it that was happening when watching you guys fight her for like 5 minutes that first time :P

[@DracoRulezU]

Pat supporting that Talimancing.

[@binarynightmare]

It's a portmanteau of Downpour and Homecoming, Downpour being the other Silent Hill let's play they have. It's the origin of the fire axe joke, too.

[@Firebreath56]

Dead Space was scary because of it's atmosphere. If you play that game with either headphones on, or with your volume up really loud, then you can hear that terrifying atmosphere. That was definitely one of the scariest aspects of that game. But, you are right about the lack of tension.

[@MrTheDecoy]

this is why i come back to TBF videos even after i finish watching. i get almost as many laughs from the comments as i do the videos.

[@MrLightning75]

Oh, god, my lungs couldn't handle the capacity of that joke. Thank you.

[@KaptinScuzgob]

having the loading screens give tips on how to kill enemies just utterly removes what little horror the enemies already had.

[@SkellionPowalskiz]

I like that Matt thinks a cutting weapon like a fire axe is a more effective tool for smashing porcelain dolls than a blunt instrument like a steel pipe.

[@keystrix3704]

The quality of Scarlet's visual design warrants her to be a regular enemy in a good horror game.

[@VoiceKulaka]

Downcoming is the shit!

[@The_Glorious_Goat]

"Who throws grenades at a tiger?" ... Me, in Farcry 3. Screw you tigers

[@RobotEthanMars]

I love how they treat the fight as "difficult = bad".

[@ThinkingBlonde22]

I love how Mat doesn't use the pipe even though you clearly see him destroy her head with the pipe.

[@dahwriter]

That yell from the doll creature is exactly like the xvart shout from Baldur's Gate. Lol

[@LaggNinja]

When ever pat said to hit Scarlet with a rock I'd just start singing in my head "Let's find a rock, I mean a big ass rock! Or maybe something like a cinder block is better, I'll hoist it up and drop it on your face, my buddy!" How he brought back something so obscure to my mind is to me a miracle!

[@Teatimesan]

Asphyxia, the caterpillar boss is called. Part of what makes this game better than Downpour is the thought that goes into the bosses and their names

[@zoetr0pe_]

Black vomit = waaay too much booze over a 24 hour period and dark tea, or you're turning prawn which is much more enjoyable this is my medical opinion

[@GabrielAKAFinn]

Black vomit might also be deoxigenated blood, if your veins are busted somewhere in your digestive system, Doc Zoe.

[@zoetr0pe_]

***** now that's a doozy!

[@NickiRusin]

Or if you take a ton of absorbent carbon to not vomit, then vomit anyway.

[@GabrielAKAFinn]

NickiRusin But you don't take carbon for that. You'll still vomit, but the toxin or whatever that is messing your stomach up will come with the carbon.

[@NickiRusin]

***** Damn, you're right. I never actually thought about how it worked.

[@AbyssalRook]

3:18 He just looks like he's wearing a shirt with a blood pattern on it

[@Dawubbz]

Apparently Silent Hill Homecoming is worth more , than Silent Hill HD collection on amazon. Think about that.

[@lukekremer7876]

Shows how shitty the HD collection is

[@shinluis]

Myles Newman it's not that Homecoming is worth more than the KD Remake, it's that the HD remake's worth even less Homecoming.

[@BurninJester]

I may be late due to my shitty internet at the moment, but I am still hyped. I will always be hype for this.

[@andyqpa]

Silent Hill: Shattered Memories was a great game

[@JustThankMe]

Such a funny feeling that they know/like Linkin park, it's like the band that I grew up hearing.

[@00paincakes00]

every iron man movie had at least one wipe. in 3, war machine flies away and drags the scene with him. it's fucking awesome

[@SpontaneousCourage]

Matt and Pat, we all just want you to know you can give up this let's play anytime and nobody will hold it against you.

[@AGrayPhantom]

That's why the cemetery is so big. Everyone else is buried there. Whooo! Spooky!

[@AussieDragoon]

Pat seems to be having more fun since he stopped giving a shit about this game at all. Hearing happy Pat is the like the internet giving you a hug.

[@darkkirby62]

It's all coming together! Homecoming doesn't just rip off the movies, it steals shit from the other games too!

[@Azzabackam]

12:51 Someone go on the wiki, look up the damage stats, and calculate how many its with the axe Scarlet had left. If one more axe hit would've killed her, I want Matt to know that that's how the axe got its revenge.

[@TheCoomSlayer]

That is truly inspiring man...you made my day.

[@InugamiTheHound]

In this game you replace your old pistol with better one(same with shotgun and m14) and also the bayonet knife gets replaced by sacrifice dagger and steel pipe gets replaced by a crowbar(can only be found in Fitch's nightmare world)

[@fullmetall1014]

DamuEmran little is it known that the crowbar is needed to do the quick time event to kill Scarlet. crowbar is also found with the map too lol

[@TheRedrick25]

you watch two best friends! (not a big deal, just awesome to know you more) love the beard sir.

[@KeystoneHeavy58]

Those were some bad ass ballerina shoes the boss was wearing.

[@AsheCraftingCorner]

The Scarlet song is the BEST song in the entire game

[@Shadowfox0]

I actually really love the the bosses in this game.

[@Triadan2010]

I recall Scarlet's death wasn't dismembering but merely bloodletting, she was literally bled to death; that's why the doctor cutting himself and bleeding himself out and she returned the effect but having him bleed out

[@grimreminder5038]

And once again Pat saves the day, this is TBF Brawl all over again

[@TDarkFLow]

Scarlet makes me think of that mannequin spider thing from Revelations... it kind of makes me cry that I thought of that movie.

[@Kazeromaru]

If either of you saw Silent Hill Revelation, the mannequin parts monster was my favorite design, it was just awesome.

[@Marioroops]

After this LP, we need more silent hill.

[@MrSeyker]

"Tell me another story of the Shepard. Well, you see, after he got done fucking ALL the quarians, he went and founded a town. A town of evil". Well, at least something good came out of homecoming.

[@octaviacellist3981]

I think I might go watch my silent hill collection now.

[@Garl_Vinland]

For some reason I read the title of this video as "Two best friends still play Silent Hill Homecoming"

[@thiefchicken]

I'm glad I am not the only one who completely missed the crowbar weapon in this level and had a bit of trouble with the boss because of it. Good thing the game makes it so easy to pass it up.

[@Jaxsin7]

3 minutes in we've referenced Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, Linkin Park and Nickelback. Fuckin love Two Best Friends Play :D

[@MISTAWULFY]

thank you, thank you. I feed it and water it and, once a week, I sing it a song. God takes care of the rest.

[@Tapp.dergon]

Pat's "OH NO" sounds too funny to me

[@mslizard]

Matt you forgot to get the crowbar to fight Scarlet!

[@GoatyCultist]

I was screaming USE THE PIPE the whole freaking time.