Two Stroke Meet at Loomies 2024

[@andrewshore262]

I live about 8 minutes from Loomies in the summertime all I hear is music to my ears riding past my house however, my neighbours aren’t as impressed you can almost detect the scowls as I ride my bike up the road to join in the fun 🤣. Love those old school strokers takes me back to a better time👍.

[@mototoki]

Still hanging onto those better times as long as there's fuel in the pumps on 2T oil on the shelves! 😅

[@andrewshore262]

@ Long may it continue 👍

[@Snoiks]

Watch out for those yellow camaras they put up. Ride safe!

[@nikbanks7962]

Shame all the other local residents dont feel the same as you,loomies is ruined now by police and cameras

[@andrewshore262]

@ The anti motoring lobby CANS (Communities Against Noise & Speed) were determined to do something - an extract from their 2018 document : We are Communities Against Noise and Speed (CANS). A campaign organisation representing the communities living along the A32 and the A272 in Hampshire. Our objective is to stop the noise produced by the illegal modification and racing of motorbikes on the roads of the Meon Valley and the A272 in Mid and East Hampshire. Ironically by far the loudest vehicle travelling along the local roads is a Mercedes E63 with a full race system, he drives around with impunity at the dead of night at full tilt but suspect everybody believes they’re hearing a motorbike…….

[@xl447]

Cawwwr, those were the days, all the gear on, sweating like Billyo in yer helmet, kicking and willing the bloody stroker into life lol. Ahhh memories. Lovely to see and hear them bud.

[@mototoki]

Haha yeah the way it was! Thanks!

[@dazmorland]

I had a 1991 TDR 250 which was basically the same engine as the TZR, so hearing this sound again, brought back all the feels of yesteryear :) I am now the proud owner of an MT10 (gen1), however my heart firmly lies in the 2 stroke experience. Loved the awkward sound of the hunting at mid revs, these bikes don't like living there at all. It's when you get into the upper realms of the revs, when 2 strokes get to clear their throats and simply......piss off! Cool vid

[@mototoki]

Thanks! It's that bit where the engine sound is just gnawing at getting into the power band that is the most addictive I so get that! TDR is the same as the KT1 engine I think - lovely!

[@bravofoxable]

oh man this was nice to watch, and that sound!!! Back in the day I had a RD350 with Micron pipes, pre power valve and later RZ500, what a beast of a machine, both the best fun and memories I had on 2 wheels, nice to see the 2-stroke flame burning in so many enthusiasts

[@mototoki]

Thanks man! Great memories all round!

[@oscarpinder]

Beautiful bikes the tzr is gorgeous in that colour way I used to have a tzr 50! Can’t beat the 2 stroke smell and sound 👊🏽

[@mototoki]

Agreed, you can't beat them! TZR 50 was too much for me at 16, I had the Zr 50 X1!

[@22811944]

Can’t beat that two stroke sound power valve kicking in unreal

[@leerollins7679]

Brings back memories of my old RD400 with allspeed exhausts the a 350 YPVS happy days

[@mototoki]

MOst meets I go to have at least one two stroke (aside from mine!) Worth going and picking back cup that sweet 2T smell - that's memories doubled!

[@robertwoods-dc4wo]

My cr crosser the same there's a knack on all two strokes full choke no throtlle

[@mattlennymoore282]

Sounds sweet. Can’t wait for some good weather.

[@mototoki]

You and me both!

[@Kingofwhiteley1]

Got to love a trip to Loomies for a bacon bap. I really need to get my NSR250R-SP rebuilt pronto!

[@mototoki]

@@Kingofwhiteley1 With the weather today it’s a good garage day! Would love to see an NSR SP. Regular NSRs are rare enough

[@Kingofwhiteley1]

@@mototoki picture of her here: imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6025/6O0VS5.jpg

[@dennisbailey6067]

If it's 2strokes,I subscribe.Anyone who hasn't ridden one,is missing out on a thrill.

[@mototoki]

It is crazy to think that there's a generation that'll start riding bikes and never have known a two stroke!

[@robertwoods-dc4wo]

a lovely 2 strokes I had a wee rd 125lc all tuned MK1 aw the smell and she was right nippy bring em back

[@mototoki]

Totally agree!

[@kiwicol7383]

I’ve had 2 RD 350’s the sound and smell is something else

[@mototoki]

Could not agree more! Luckily the same 2T oil is available so the smell is just as you remember it!

[@eradeklerk]

Within a short while, there were a good few serious bike accidents on the A272 towards Petersfield. Not long after, the first of the recorders appeared. I have had the living bejesus scared out of me by some idiots mounted on crotch rockets on that road. There is going fast safely, and then there is going fast kamikaze.

[@mototoki]

Long before the cameras they has those Police "danger to biker" (or something) signs. They often had a tally of accidents so far in the year. I respect the A272 and you can't enjoy the scenery if you're flying down it with no idea what a tractor is!

[@andrewhenderson5645]

Owned a 3XV 2010 - 2018. Very enjoyable bike, spent many many £thousands on it 😅 happy memories and would have it back in a heartbeat

[@mototoki]

They do take your heart and your money! 😅

[@robertwoods-dc4wo]

2s r like a drug highly addictive so much fun every biker should have a 2 in there lock up garage

[@williamlorimer060867]

The yellow Rd 350 lc looked like it had been modified just like my lc 20 years ago with rgv forks and swing arm was really easy to do what I remember went to the dark side (4 stroke) but the 2 strokes were more satisfying to ride 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

[@mototoki]

@@williamlorimer060867 Halo!! I’d not considered that modification. My RD has a standard and pathetic bicycle rear tyre and I’d like to change that. I guess there will be details on RDLC Crazy but interested in how you did it.

[@MartinsJoy-px4ob]

Nice Honda NS400! I wonder who that belongs to? Great video, hopefully catch up next year

[@mototoki]

@@MartinsJoy-px4ob From the decal on the screen that’s yours!!! Great bike fella, really nice. Had it long?

[@MartinsJoy-px4ob]

@ I’m usually out and about on my mars bar 350LC, NS engine is currently on the bench for gearbox rebuild

[@mototoki]

@ I’ve not seen that one! I’ll keep an eye out for you! Hope the NS isn’t too expensive

[@ragnarironspear1791]

Some real beauties there 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧

[@mototoki]

Thanks! Loomies can always turn up something different each time!

[@AlanOxby]

What a sound takes me back long ago I used to have a tzr250 on an e plate god I wish I'd kept it it's tempting me to try and get another one I know not practical but what the hell 😊

[@mototoki]

@@AlanOxby there’s never a good time for an impractical decision… but now is the better time!!! 😎

[@alanveck5756]

Is that at west meon?

[@mototoki]

Yup!

[@johnkeen4325]

Have to take my cagiva mito Lawson mk2

[@paulcassells779]

Good well that wee bike 🏍 what speed did you have her at

[@mototoki]

Thanks! Difficult to tell, the speedo was blurred out lol. Wasn't that fast - thats the joy of the 2Ts, you don't need to go too fast to have fun!

[@alivekicking6247]

I'm from the area. Looking at your ride back, you live in Colden Common? There are other great roads in the area not affected by cameras. But watch out for deer... nearly ended up with a herd on my lap in my Caterham once.

[@mototoki]

Just North of Southampton. Roads north of Portsmouth are the best and deer are a problem, yes!

[@robertwoods-dc4wo]

How wides the power and ha ha it caught ya

[@Wargwarn]

TZR is running rough af

[@marcelnijholt1421]

What a lovely thing.

[@mototoki]

Thank you!

[@mauriceridesout]

Be there soon got some pre service miles to chug through!

[@mototoki]

Looking forward to it!

[@mauriceridesout]

@@mototoki When this weather spat has passed prob...fingers x doesnt last too long.

[@mototoki]

May have snow this weekend - that means road salt and probably a while keeping clear of the roads. Garage time

[@mauriceridesout]

@@mototoki aye. Might clean it though😉

[@liverush24]

Nice vid. What's that big, grey scooter type thing @6.40ish?

[@mototoki]

I think its one on the Honda 750 variants, they made everything out of that platform!

[@PurpleMonkeyWaffle]

I've noticed in the past your tzr being hard to start. Maybe the power valves? I remember you setting the power valves to be open below 600 rpm (or whatever it was) like the stock cdi. I tried this with my 1kt and had the same problems with starting as you seem to have. The power valves started to turn before the bike fired (unlike stock cdi) and it didn't want to start like that. As soon as i set the power valves to stay closed at start it started every kick no problem. I think the Zeel doesn't do a great job at keeping the valves open until the bike actually fires. Try setting the valves fully closed at start to keep them from rotating while starting and see if that helps the starting. Those are some pretty bikes you have in the UK! Lots to look at.

[@mototoki]

Good advice. Thanks. I have the second PV map to closed at start, I’ll try that and see how that affects it. My kicks started off at high rpm but by the end I reckon I was down 50% in leg power!!!!

[@pietervanbreda4360]

Why is it hard starting? My TDR250 sometimes stands for up to six months, and it will take no more than two kicks to start, but mostly the first kick. There were nice bikes at the meeting.

[@mototoki]

I forgot to turn the fuel on!!!!!!

[@bananabrooks3836]

Did you not listen properly?

[@davidlumgair3499]

Bet the fuel was off, very nice bike mate

[@mototoki]

Thanks! Yeah it was my fault, left the fuel tap off. Bad fuel is a great shout too - The fuel I use is from Ango American Oils, R-SUR, so that is good these days.

[@LeeTillbury]

Hi mate. Great video. What is the spare parts situation with 3xv's, 3ma's like? Must be hard to find.

[@mototoki]

Thanks! Some stuff is surprisingly easy. New cranks direct from Yamaha. Some stuff is simply no longer available, like pistons. Anything that does have a Yamaha packet is crazy expensive though. Most of the hard to find stuff can be got off Rinkya from Japan or SuzukiRace off eBay. I don't know about the 3MA parts. Best place to start looking is Pure2StrokeSpirit.net - the best TZR forum on the net!

[@LeeTillbury]

​@@mototokiThanks dude, happy new year

[@mototoki]

@ Likewise!

[@cm-oo1td]

You need to blip the throttle more on down shift's,,,,, it's in the rule book 😉

[@mototoki]

Agreed - makes the bike sound better!

[@leegriffiths312]

Lovely! Singing at 17:10 mins

[@mototoki]

I fluffed the start but soon got on with it!!! Thanks!

[@robertwoods-dc4wo]

That wee ring ding ding couldn't match that on the yams

[@Dan-Dan46]

Wow small world, used to know Gavin few years back !

[@mototoki]

Gav's a top bloke. He helped me source parts for my TZR from the Japanese auction sites. Knows a bargain that one, but wallet like a sieve!

[@gavinyerrell6803]

Blimey, blast from the past, hi mate hows it going? Still got your bike?

[@Dan-Dan46]

@@gavinyerrell6803 I nearly choked on my drink when this guy pulled up at Loomies and there you was!!!!!

[@gavinyerrell6803]

@Dan-Dan46 lol, yeah looks like im famous now 🤣..still got your gixxer mate?

[@gavinyerrell6803]

@@mototoki 🤣🙈

[@Crosshatch1212]

Ive got a nice honda 400,4supersport19 model ,too easy racking up points .

[@mototoki]

400's were the next big thing following two stroke's demise. Never owned one myself

[@jamiedouglas125]

You're not a million miles from me. I love a ride up to Loomies. Quite often do a circuit of Ria's Cafe in Waltham Chase, Loomies and then out through waterlooville to Portsdown Hill and back around. Thats far enough on my little 125 2smoke... To be fare its a good circuit on my 600 to. Will definitely get the RG up to Loomies for the 2smoke meet in 2025.

[@mototoki]

Portsdown Hill is a good one. There's a burger van there too or is that gone these days? Hope to see you and the RG out on the roads once the snow is well behind us!

[@jamiedouglas125]

@mototoki Mick's Monster burgers is still there. It's 24/7, even open Xmas day! A lot of the 'more mature' bikers prefer Route 66 in the next car park up, on the other side of the road, but that one's only week days.

[@mototoki]

I grew up with the burger bar, I'll stick with that!!

[@ninja12lawbreaker]

I took my daughter to Loomies for the first time a few years ago on my S1000R and we had bacon butties. I was moaning a little about the price until the butties arrived with 5 slices of bacon, yeeharr

[@mototoki]

Can't go wrong with a bacon butty, even if the butter comes from a bottle!! I enjoyed mine for sure.

[@alanoswin8827]

Pity the camera made the bikes look distorted, cracking 2ts 👍

[@mototoki]

2Ts are where the fun is thanks! PS, can you give me a timecode when the picture looks wrong, I'll look into that - ta

[@alanoswin8827]

@mototoki Lc on way out of car park looked like it had shrunk, and also when other Tz was kicking over at end, realised it was the insta 360 👍

[@mototoki]

@ Thanks! The 360 isn’t great as you don’t get the quality. See what mean about the LC shot. I had the camera too high and I’ll look out for that. Thanks for the feedback- always room to learn. Cheers!

[@The-skillschool]

I think Loomies breakfasts are top notch. There us a lot of debate about thise cameras being fake. I have an Indian drifter ride out to Loomies on my channel.

[@mototoki]

I'll have to try getting up earlier! You must have been at Hayling Island bike night at some point. I've been waved off those as they are a bit hooligan, apparently

[@mellowr1]

Still going well👍😎 How come your oil and neutral lights are on🤔

[@mototoki]

Goes best with fuel 🤣 Oil light comes on with numeral when you click it out of gear! Have you been to the West Meon track with your Beta? I think I'm gonna take a plunge into that gig!

[@mototoki]

Oh do you mean the read and seen on the left under the speedo? Those are two switches for the Zeeltronic. The green one is the PV map and the red is ignition. I can change these on the fly!

[@mellowr1]

@mototoki yes that's the ones, interesting🙂 No i haven't been on any tracks, don't get a dirtbike mate, it's horrible on wet mud🙄😁👍

[@williamlee9102]

You can't ride a 2 stroke pal, I think it's pinking, get it looked at or good bang. Great looking bike, rev

[@markt5426]

Sorry, I forgot to ask....what make is your 360 degree camera? Thanks in advance!

[@Bradley-t1w]

It looks like an insta 360

[@mototoki]

Yes, it's an insta360 X3. It is not an easy camera to live with, (see kzbin.infoLR0kr1zrLSU) and the quality isn't great, but it gives some interesting angles.

[@richardwoodhouse8397]

It soumds to me you might need a fraction more fuel main jets or maybee raise needles 1notch😮

[@mototoki]

I have yet to get the TZR to the dyno, so well spotted, it's running "temporary" jetting. I have the Zeeltronic dialled back but better get on with the dyno plans!

[@topfuelteddy]

​@@mototokiThe Dyno will surely get it running spot on , some of the valves that I had seen with the zeel fitted were insane, great video and lovely looking stroker .

[@mototoki]

@@topfuelteddy Thank you! Yes, will get it dialled in on the Dyno - right now I'm running soft ignition and up two sizes!

[@topfuelteddy]

@mototoki nice and safe 👍

[@Phil300zx]

never heard of noise cameras, dont think we have them up here in cumbria, whats the punishment for been noisy?

[@mototoki]

I don't know what the fine is. Hopefully its just a fine and not a "get it fixed and off to a VOSA test centre for a soundcheck"?

[@vinnyd8108]

It's just a viscous rumour 😂 There are average speed cameras though

[@vinnyd8108]

There are no noise cameras, it's just a rumour 😊

[@mototoki]

Ahhh, good to know!

[@barrycoughlan7382]

Ju leave the key off ?

[@mototoki]

@@barrycoughlan7382 It was the fuel tap. I see why it looked like I’d not had the key on - the headlight was off. The reason for the headlight being off was I pulled the headlight connection after it wasn’t starting to reduce the electrical load. Good guess

[@TopRevs]

Would love to have a modern 2 stroke road bike with at least 100+ hp

[@mototoki]

I did have an RG500 (95 bhp) but the handling of the newest (90s bikes) is amazing. It's like old school 2T in a modern chassis. I've heard of road legal TZs doing 85bhp, but not seen anything over the ton.

[@Phil300zx]

so jealous, wish 250 2 strokes were more affordable

[@mototoki]

The irony here is the cheap ones end up being the most expensive. My TZR was cheap, but I paid the same again getting it restored and working

[@topfuelteddy]

They have dropped in price considerably, during lockdown the prices went crazy but you can buy a nice sorted bike for sensible money nowadays.

[@markt5426]

Nice bike, I had the RD400F until I sold it. Now, I am in no way criticizing but it is ironical that the council or local residents are complaining about noise when on their doorstep there is an off-road track. 👍

[@mototoki]

Hilarious point!!!! The motocross is very audible! RD400F Is a great bike. I saw one up at the Ace earlier in the year and it took me back!

[@247SH]

Nice one, takes me back to my youth. Shame about our nanny state. They would be better off fixing the road surface. Priorities wrong way round.

[@mototoki]

Thanks! Yeah, the roads around here are quite torn up sadly.

[@Rosstradamus1000]

Forgot to turn the fuel on

[@mototoki]

Correct!

[@richardwoodhouse8397]

Fuel tap round wrong way😂

[@patrickwest3076]

RGV 250 SP.i owned was in my opinion the best.

[@mototoki]

Very rare! I know Jamie Whitham has one but never seen one on the road

[@patrickwest3076]

@mototoki when I past my test.which was long overdue. It was my first proper bike.loved it.i had 3 over a period of 4 years.wish I kept them.id be rich.

[@patrickwest3076]

@mototoki The SP.was the best version. Dry clutch.and and rev limit so you had a better chance of not blowing the engine. Great days.Big grin to.

[@mototoki]

@ electric start too wasn’t it? I have a rev limited from the Zeeltronic and do love the sound and feel of a dry clutch!

[@patrickwest3076]

@mototoki no kick start.manual choke.but always started.the earlier rgv 250 I had.th4 exaust pipes were 1 either side.unlike the later model side by side

[@twinpotracer]

I think that yellow RD lives in Aldershot. ....and the food at Looms is awful

[@mototoki]

The yellow RD looks very sorted. I forgot to check what rear tyre he has and I'm looking to upgrade from my RD bicycle tyre, so I hope to catch him there another time

[@twinpotracer]

@mototoki I'm a summer time rider so I only visit during those seasons. I'm sure that guy lives on the estate just off North Lane in Aldershot, basically opposite my house. If it is him, I'll catch him and ask for you. Then drop you a message

[@mototoki]

Nice one, thanks mate!

[@JSmith19858]

Hampshire Motocross run events at West Meon and membership is full for 2025. You might get lucky with a last minute entry but they go quick. There isn't any other Motocross racing in Hampshire now and most of the practice tracks have been closed mostly by NIMBYs winning. The sport is pretty much dead now sadly

[@mototoki]

Thanks for the info. I'll most probably do some KTM days and Trails days in 2025 as I have zero dirt experience. Aiming for 2026 all things considered.

[@JSmith19858]

@@mototoki I had a good day one on one at Tricks in the Sticks for Trials. Helped me get back in to the sport after 25 years off a Trials bike

[@mototoki]

Looks way too advanced for me! Some awesome skills there

[@bugattieb110ss]

I'm a local and there are now cameras because of selfish a-holes who don't live in the area who used the local roads as a race track (and yes, I ride motorbikes too).

[@mototoki]

Agreed, the cameras are there for the 1% (er maybe 5%?) who can't keep it reasonable.

[@alivekicking6247]

Actually, the PCC for Hantspol moved into the area and decided to waste £700k of taxpayers' money on them. She hates cars and bikes. She also hates proper policing.

[@mitchelrobins651]

Funny enough the cameras were put in because of the locals complaining about the bikers but no bikers have been caught down there instead the locals have 😂😂

[@alivekicking6247]

@mitchelrobins651 hopefully the PCC that moved in and arranged for the £700k cameras to be erected has been caught by her own abuse of her position.

[@mototoki]

@@mitchelrobins651 Hilarious!

[@Sluetch90]

The amount of people that wear jeans whilst riding baffles me. Some of them may be kevlar ( however it’s spelt ) but still. Especially if you’ve got a leather jacket on , might as well wear the trousers.

[@mototoki]

You are so right. I'm totally on board with wearing the right kit all the time. No matter if it's too hot or whatever. Gav's got the kevlar biker jeans but for me it's leather or take the car!

[@PurpleMonkeyWaffle]

Ohhh lol fuel hahah well okay then. Shoulda known lol. I love my simple 1kt fuel tap, its always on lol

[@mototoki]

I’ll try the alternative PV map in any case, it’s not a great starter. I swapped out the Yamaha vacuum tap for an RGV one. First time it’s caught me out!

[@worndisk320]

You can come a crank cropper doing that as you can flood the crankcase with petrol. You can guess what happens after that right...

[@PurpleMonkeyWaffle]

@@worndisk320 The 1kt tap works on vacuum so the only way fuel is getting into the bottom end is everything failing. Fuel tap, needle valve, and bowl overflow hose.

[@steve00alt70]

Can you try out the Chinese models?

[@JamesMurphy-ry2mx]

I guessed it would be the fuel tap. Slava Ukraine ! 🇺🇦

[@mototoki]

@@JamesMurphy-ry2mx 🇺🇦🇬🇧

[@philipmansell-lp4rs]

Pro 2

[@alanbirch9663]

Lack of use garage queen

[@morsteadriders4221]

Hope you've done the morestead rd not far from there. My mate and me loved it on our yamaha r1-z 250 3xc. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZi1k62nqbarhZosi=iiTlfrlgOzhfHube

[@nialbarnsley4108]

Thats what I always hated about 2 strokes, all your gear on sweating like crap and then it won't start. Your now I your leathers and it feels hotter than a sauna, hated that.

[@mototoki]

Haha, I was lucky it was cold that day but exactly the same - sweating like crap, cursing the thing and getting out of breath pushing it around!!!

[@robertwoods-dc4wo]

and let her warm up

[@mototoki]

That too!

[@robertwoods-dc4wo]

Your defo a novice

[@nhardy2480]

U didnt turn the fuel tap on!.....

[@mototoki]

@@nhardy2480 Well spotted! Silly me