"October 7th Was No Surprise": Einat Wilf on Palestinianism and the Gaza War

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Dr. Einat Wilf has never been one to shy away from challenging the status quo. Born into a Labor Zionist family, she grew up believing in the dream of peace through compromise and coexistence. But her time working in foreign policy, education, and politics led her to some tough realizations. Over the years, she’s become one of the loudest voices pushing back on what she sees as dangerous illusions-both in Israel and abroad-about the nature of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Through her books, like The War of Return, and her public speaking, Dr. Wilf has become a champion of pragmatic Zionism, unapologetically advocating for Israel’s right to exist and thrive in the face of ongoing rejection.
While Einat Wilf shifted gradually away from the Israeli left toward, on October 7th countless Israelis made a similar shift, only drastically. The brutal Palestinian attack not only took thousands of innocent lives but also shattered the belief for many that peace is just a matter of compromise. People who once held onto the hope of coexistence are now questioning everything. This shift, echoing the journey of Dr. Wilf, grapples with hard truths about the conflict and what it will take to secure Israel’s future.
Today, we’re sitting down with Dr. Einat Wilf to talk about her journey, how October 7th has changed the conversation in Israel, and what she thinks lies ahead for Zionism, the conflict, and the Jewish people. Dr. Wilf is a former member of the Israeli Parliament, a prolific author, and one of the sharpest minds on these issues. We’re thrilled to be joined today by Dr. Einat Wilf on the Two Nice Jewish Boys Podcast with Eytan Weinstein and Naor Meningher.
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[@samuelallen167]

Einat Wilf as allways clear and brilliant, thank you ❤

[@JG94523]

I’m with you 1000% Einat! You should be our next PM.

[@anchormax3597]

Important to consider, her vision is a two state solution.

[@sofiaGUT]

Einat wilf is an excellent speaker

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

She's very smart, but one thing she does not understand is the mind of the Arab in Gaza.

[@samuelrhenley7863]

She is 100% right about EVERYTHING

[@zetristan4525]

ie clearly, plainly a foolish ideologue. 'everything'...all black&white

[@mokeboi3328]

As always. A delight to hear her speak. True integrity.

[@claudiaferguson1410]

Makes so much sense. Courage to say what Israel needs and demand it. Take the power back from an abusive relationship. We dictate the terms, not them. That shouldn't be right or left. It is self-preservation.

[@HusseinDoha]

Unbelievable!! It’s not enough for her that Palestinians should recognize Israel on a defined territory, she wants an acknowledgment from them that they were wrong all along as a condition of making peace.🤯 WT*!! Put aside that they are not wrong either now, who wouldn’t oppose the mass immigration of aliens from another continent to their homeland, under colonial forces that killed them when they revolted??? … She’s 🥜

[@samuelallen167]

Allways good to here Einat Wilf, thank you '2 nice Jewish boys' I like the titel ❤

[@HusseinDoha]

@@claudiaferguson1410 IMO, she’s not making sense.

[@HusseinDoha]

@@samuelallen167 Not really! It’s not enough for her that Palestinians should recognize Israel on a defined territory, she wants an acknowledgment from them that they were wrong all along as a condition of making peace.🤯 WT*!! Put aside that they are not wrong either now, who wouldn’t oppose the mass immigration of aliens from another continent to their homeland, under colonial forces that killed them when they revolted???

[@bluestar6879]

@@HusseinDoha That is because your IQ is too low.

[@1DaTJo]

Dr Einat Wilf is the brightest, most intelligent, eloquent speaker I’ve heard. She is amazing and I love listening to her ❤❤❤

[@sofiaGUT]

Absolutely true. Great talk.

[@YaelBanai-l3l]

Einat has put her finger directly on the core issue. It has been there always, and just as she says, we explained it away. That was always patronizing of the Palestinians. So many things she writes (with wonderful clarity) I have had muddled visions of over the years. She brought clarity to the issue.

[@DELRAYDISH]

Everyone Need To Hear Her , and The Truth !!! About It!!

[@amiwettstein1639]

Love you, Einat! ❤

[@DDBb993]

I love listening to her, she is so reasonable and collected.

[@robertminor9297]

Absolutely brilliant woman, Israel ignores her at their own peril.

[@buddhaway]

She's great. Too smart for most people, including these guys, but as far as I can tell, she's spot on.

[@yardengali]

They are clearly conservative thinkers..no vision whatsoever.

[@LoveLivingLoveNow]

Einat. Yes. We need to be Lions.

[@taliron]

Meaningful thoughts. Thank you. Be blessed.

[@Shiningstars1011]

I really liked this interview! Thank you!

[@cboz3712]

Dear Einat. You are the m... Sorry, I mean you are the ONE AND ONLY 🙂 Thanx once again for your clear and sharp thoughts.

[@estherlev2472]

Einat's vision is not patronising as it is actually demanding what Israel wants for once as opposed to offering what some leaders assumed Palestinians want.

[@Davidwishnevsky]

Suicidal empathy has infected Israeli society.

[@JuicyMango753]

Roman propagandists who had created a Rome friendly Jesus came up with the principle to offer the other cheek when punched in the face. That was to dismantle halacha which says of someone comes to ill you, ill them first. Unfortunately that suicidal, antisemitic propaganda was adopted by jews as well.

[@HusseinDoha]

What empathy? Israel is the most apathetic society ever! -- They are bewildered that Palestinians are fighting back and will not obey martial laws.

[@jerzywieckowski7610]

Moral standards of Jews are their tragedy

[@jerzywieckowski7610]

​@@HusseinDohaPallywood 😂 Hussain Doha. Hinding?

[@tdevry]

@@HusseinDoha Palestinians are the cause of this problem. Their supremacist ideology is responsible for all the suffering. The hatred from Palestinians has been religiously fed by a so-called prophet for 1400 years. You should know that.....but ignore it.

[@NeverAgain316]

Clear vision right there! Well done 👏

[@purpleflame334]

Thank you ❤ excellent podcast with an amazing Einat ❤

[@ke1522]

as a german: thank you einat for your incredible clarity, courage and stamina. listening to you everything just falls into place

[@chucha307]

THE AMAZING DR EINAT 👑👑👑👑👑

[@sarahledoux3786]

Germany and Japan did change their ideology because they’ve been crushed, they lost !

[@jjj13031984]

well I as a German let me add, Germany always had the cultural background to change. How do Palestinians have that.. their identity is to destroy Israel, not much more.

[@gmh471]

@@jjj13031984 That really is the problem in a nutshell. The German and Japanese regimes were not grounded in religion. And certainly not a religion that values martyrdom and death to all "apostates."

[@kalishakta]

Actually Nazi Germany won. Read The Secret Treaty of Fort Hunt by Carl Oglesby or Blowback by Christopher Simpson.

[@JuicyMango753]

​@@gmh471And Germans and Japanese aren't consanguine societies like Hamasstinians. The avgIQ of Aza is 67.9, that's significantly below that of Forrest Gump's IQ. Like all lowIQ individuals they love violence, have zero empathy and cannot be educated.

[@StevenBielik]

​@gmh471 actually, Japanese did have an almost religious devotion to their Emperor, and the Kamakazis in their Zeros did the same as the Jihadists in their vests for the cause, but unlike Japanese, the Arabs never got to surrender and they still want to kill apostates and everyone else... the West and the UN prevents that. :-(

[@timurtruman]

The gentlemen were right to challenge Einat. She basically says, Oslo and post-Oslo was a mistake, which is true, and let’s go back to pre-Oslo. But what had let to Oslo? Yes, the pre-Oslo naivety, when the Israelis thought that their enemies will give up over time. They haven’t . What is your next move, Einat? We say, our next move - they move out.

[@Twoblues1235]

Vile, unrepentant racism and ignorance of the many, many crimes against humanity committed by Israelis...

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

Right ? I'm wondering if I may be misunderstanding somehow. She's right in the fact that the appeasement must stop, it doesn't matter what lies the world is told, or even what lies the world believes.. They must do for themselves and not worry about being nice anymore. However, she seems under the impression that because some buildings are rubble, after 1400 years... The people in Gaza are just going to completely say oh well I guess we've wasted all our time thinking this way for so long. That's never going to happen. It's absolutely never going to happen. She's wrong in thinking that what these people believe, is an ideology. It is more than an ideology, it is their very existence, it is who and what they are. It's very obvious that the Arab Nations want nothing to do with the people in Gaza. They don't want to help them, they don't want to house them... They don't like them They don't want anything to do with it. However, when President Trump says the people of Gaza will be relocated to rebuild.. Even the most moderate leader of Saudi Arabia.. puts out a statement saying that there will be absolutely no normalization until and unless Palestine has their own nation state in the capital is Eastern Jerusalem! Even though they hate each other, they will come together against any enemy who wishes to "take" land from or prevent Muslims from returning to land that was once in their control. The goal is worldwide Sharia law. Worldwide Muslim control.. And it does not matter how much they hate each other, they will work together to save one little patch of land. You cannot rationalize with people who are not rational. She can demand all she wants, it's not going to change a thing.

[@ds2103-c4j]

Nice exchange. I ❤Einat!

[@YtUser-c1c]

As a zionist christian who studied the conflict for years and years, this was a very enlightening conversation. I have been baffled very often by how the people of Israel have been naive and altruistic to their own detriment. You cannot negotiate with people whose only wish is to end the nation of Israel. Your nation is not so much shifting to the right. It is shifting to common sense. Shalom from the Netherlands.

[@JLP4444]

Now that was a true discussion with dissenting points of view.

[@n4049]

Fascinating talk! Thank you ❤

[@Waitaminute2015]

When an addict hits rock bottom, there's still only a fleeting chance that the right help is in the right place. Otherwise, they fall back into the darkness and the cycle begins again.

[@rebecca_stone]

Very true, and also it takes a significant amount of internal resources and determination even with the 'right help'. That's a lot of ifs and maybes. On top of this, the addict in your analogy is surrounded by enablers, including the West.

[@David-hq4lq]

Senðing all our Love to the Israeli People from your good friends in England !

[@aligned4good]

I love that you challenged Einat’s ideas, although I agree with her 100% it is good to hear another perspective

[@1995yuda]

You did well in challenging her views.

[@QldTechie]

So practical, so intelligent einat

[@Bellaumberella]

Einat ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@alexjohnson9630]

Thank you for this conversation.

[@samuelallen167]

'The nice boys .. say never never' .... if you look like this on the world nothing ever changes.

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

I can assure you, the Muslims are not going to change. If there is one thing you can be certain of... It is that the Muslims in Gaza will never decide to be okay with Israel existing. It's been 1400 years now... I promise you they are not going to change their mind now.

I think Prof Einat was crystal clear what has to be done for our survival but the boys ,who are very sweet , have a bit of a language barrier that prevented them from understanding the pont that she was trying to make ...This was a little frustrating for me

[@hermanirascible3310]

I agree with Dr Dan Shufetan, don't look for solutions!

[@pinkdostoyevsky]

Thank you ❤

[@TheLifescasualty]

2:53 please don’t blame isreal In the Since of not trying. This is what happened when you try and trust Palestinians with your life. Did you know, I’m sure the doctor does, that 1500 Palestinians worked for the Israeli military? MILITARY! You only need 10 to do what the terrorist did on Oct 7th in Israel those years aga.

[@hilamerhavy]

גברת יקרה ❤ "הגדה המערבית" של מה ????? קוראים לזה : "יהודה ושומרון" 🙏🙏🙏

[@lucifertheharpist]

You can call the Palestinians dead before you win the war, but you're jumping the gun, lady!

[@henri-0]

I found this interview a bit frustrating because the similarities and differences between Einat's and the boys' viewpoints felt kind of muddled. For example, she deserves a lot of credit for talking about "Palestinianism" and the fact that it's not just Hamas, as the media and even Israeli politicians keep telling everyone. In that sense, she is to the right of a lot of right wingers.

[@JuicyMango753]

That has nothing to do with right wing or leftism but with speaking facts.

[@henri-0]

@ the left refuses to accept Palestinianism.

[@tdevry]

Hamas is the Palestinians... No difference.

[@bluestar6879]

If people like her were thinking correctly back in the 1990s, we would not have suffered Oslo, Hitnatkut & all the other self-destructive behaviours. The last 30 years has been a huge, painful & deadly farce.

[@Rabbithole8]

Were the German people inherently Ns? Where the Japanese inherently militarists? Were the Italian people inherently fascists? Huge portions of those societies embraced those ideologies. However, they were not inherently those ideologies. ""Palestinianism" is not the people, it is what the people embrace. Once they reject it, they will remain a people. These facts have nothing to do with a political stance.

[@VajrahahaShunyata]

Many Palestinians have given up jihadism and now choose peace. Over 3 million now live inside of Israel, they serve in government, as judges and live and thrive as Israeli citizens. The only apartheid is coming from the Palestinians..

[@mdarrenu]

thanks for noting that.. You never hear much or anything about them. I didn't much any public support for the Gaza war. But remember, like all the other arab countries - they don't like or identify or want Gazans in their country - because they always reek havoc. Ask Syria and Egpyt.

[@DietlindeKopfermann]

Veryxact Description, Germns and europeans Should listen carefully to. This truth.

[@zevspitz8925]

1. In Dr. Wilf's discussion on the lack of an Israeli organizing vision, she sounds like Moshe Feiglin. It would be incredible to see them debate one another. 2. IMO Dr. Wilf is also somewhat limited in her vision. Why is it that Palestinianism rejects a Jewish state? Because Palestinianism is a natural outgrowth of the Arab/Islamist supremacy and antisemitism prevalent in Arab and Muslim societies, for whom the only place for Jews is all the way at the bottom. Thus for me, the end of Palestinianism is when a significant number of openly Jewish Jews (not tokens like Amira Hass) can live in Ramallah and Gaza with the same safety and security as Arabs do in Tel Aviv. Jewish towns and villages in Judea and Samaria aren't a problem for such a Palestinian society, because Jews have the right to live and buy property wherever they please, and are entitled to the same benefits from the Palestinian political entity as an Arab municipality. Dr. Wilf's vision doesn't inoculate Palestinian society from reviving the old narrative somewhere along the line, at which point Israel will be in serious trouble.

[@JuicyMango753]

Your points are invalid because by referring to them as "palestinians" , you perpetuate the lies of a fäe people that committs atrocities in the name of a fake claim to a fake country when in reality they perpetrate jihad like their demonic book commands all its followers to perpetrate on those who don't follow the ped0/rape/death cult.

[@julialevin9752]

How will your vision be achieved?

[@zevspitz8925]

@@julialevin9752 By demanding it, of course. Any agreement with Palestinians must include full rights for Jews who wish to live under Palestinian control; and can be rendered immediately null and void on violation of those rights.

[@julialevin9752]

@zevspitz8925 You can demand anything. Why would they comply?

[@zevspitz8925]

@@julialevin9752 The stick in this case would be threat of expulsion; initially with some kind of aid package, then without for recalcitrants.

[@leonehersh9481]

This should be seen by EVERYONE!!

[@joncygardner]

Wilf's next book should have been titled "Call Me Ishmael (When You're Truly Ready for Peace)"

[@asfuss]

Excellent discussion.

[@charlesserlin3114]

Great interview

[@2NJB]

Thank you!

[@roseblue3368]

It amaizes me that you live sourranded by arabs and muslims and you dont understand them at all or their religión. If not just to understand your enemy. Treaty of al-Hudaybiya.

[@jasonrose6288]

Very true. At the very least, everyone should learn Arabic.

[@sydsacks9097]

A very insightful comment; know your enemy. The IDF allowed the Hamas massacre to happen because they were so full of hubris that they didn’t bother to know their enemy. Instead they deluded themselves into believing what they wished for.

[@GertrudFahnenbruck-cz8fg]

​@jason😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂rose6288

[@jittmet7766]

Agree.

[@MoriaCampbell]

Its not a religion. It is a political movement which exists not only within Israels area but across the entire west and Africa.

[@gmh471]

"How do you know that's what the Palestinians want?" Is this kid for real?

[@giulioferretti5310]

I’d like so much to see Mrs. Wilf debate Francesca Albanese.

[@yanivreif7379]

The surrender of the Palestinian authority will be visible when the PA school curriculum will be changed in order to promote coexistence than we’ll know smth had changed.

[@hilbert2547]

So israeli schools.

[@yanivreif7379]

@@hilbert2547 nah you know nothing about Israeli schools while I know a lot about Palestinian school curriculum. We are not the same

[@hilbert2547]

@@yanivreif7379 but Nurit Peled Elahan she wrote a book about israeli school books…

[@yanivreif7379]

@ we have here 4 education systems so I’m referring to the secular one (which is the biggest, all 4 are based in religion) and it’s not even comparable. Is the Israeli education system is perfect? Far from it in so many ways but this false equivalence is so fucking tiering. Go google: “Palestinian school curriculum IMPCT-se” and see for yourself, it’t bot even close and this is a report of the PA school curriculum (and the PA are the “moderates”)

[@yanivreif7379]

@@hilbert2547 Did you so may answer to this reply? It seems that it’s missing

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

The guy in the gray shirt is absolutely correct.

[@DaisyBennett-x3l]

58:55 you should always present them with the choice. That's how we establish (social, personal, state) borders. It should be clear: you can chose A, you can chose B, but these are the consequences. I sometimes think that each evacuation order in Gaza should have included pictures of the hostages: "These are the people we're looking for. Bring them back and we'll spare your houses."

[@lucifertheharpist]

Instead, the two nice Jewish boys admit they would happily push a button to kill all 5 million Palestinians, and they admit this is mainstream Israeli sentiment. What you're proposing is some fringe suggestion that's a million percent out-of-line with Israel's policy.

[@gisaschmidt-theuner2404]

Do you listen to Yosef Haddad?? 😊

[@chikaraejiogu4651]

Israel and as a country and Jewish peoples have contributed immensely to the world in science and innovations . As a Christian, the holy land is safe in Israeli custody for all the major religions to visit.

[@Anon-lz1qy]

They spit on Christian’s when they visit Jerusalem. Just look at the videos

[@NaymaTunc]

And still claim that they embrace life and want peace

[@bh1935]

She convinced me.

[@jocelynness46]

Love her

[@stevenlindstrom8457]

Would love to get Dr. Wilf’s analysis of President Trump’s “vision” for Gaza. His ideas are certainly not shackled by “It wouldn’t work.”

[@TheLifescasualty]

40:11 🤦🏻‍♀️ bad lead up to the doctor discussing more facts. Thank you Dr!

[@gisaschmidt-theuner2404]

In your debate about "ideology" and identification, there is missing the link to djihadisme, islamistic - religious mindset?

[@Yosaif-Israel]

I wasn’t surprised of anything that happened in the region but that’s because I am aware, most people are totally oblivious to what’s going on around them

[@margasa8548]

Einar, are you rationalizing because you don't want to say that the brownie Mizrchiim were right all along?

[@bluestar6879]

Yes. Yitzak Shamir told the Leftists back in 1993. "Well, the sea is the same sea and the Arabs are the same Arabs"

[@the1ghost764]

Good interview.

[@Kouros-y2t]

What is the intro music called?

[@jerzywieckowski7610]

It represents Jews in Eastern Europe becsuse they understand. But Israelis or US Jews are in the dark.

[@brentriley4911]

my understanding has been from the Crusades for 500 years, Jews enjoyed as positive neighborly relations with indigenous Palestinians as anywhere

[@tdevry]

Jews enjoyed positive neighborly relations with indigenous Palestinians? No that has never happened. The Palestinians which are Islamists see Jews as inferior. They always have done so and will always do this. Why? Because their ideology demands it. By the way, the Crusades was a response to Islamic invasions and oppressions. Mohammed died in 632 and the first crusade was in 1096. What happened between these dates?

[@Itsstuff7328]

Are you serious? That's what you believe? And who are 'indigenous' Palestinians? The people calling themselves 'palestinian' today mostly moved in between 1900-1930.

[@Sai_aR]

32:55 she is missing a point here that the interviewer alludes to in his follow up question, many times in politics it is the FACTS that are disputed which leads to utilising certain means to achieving the aims. Besides MAYBE some extreme right wing politicians in israel it's a consensus amongst israelis that if peace CAN BE achieved that they would prefer that over continued conflict over land sincelife is more precious than land, holy as it may be. And it is those facts that the left got wrong and were therfore pushing towards peace. And as for her doubt at 35:50 in the video, this comes from 2 reasons the first one is that contrary to the PA the h@mas are not playing any political games in their "wording" even towards foreigners which means that it is easier to expose the p@lestinitan ethos to the world through them (since they dominate over the PA in p@lestinitan political polls and won the last democratic elections) and show there is no partner for peace to speak of, secound is that, many on the right wing in israel contrary to mrs Wilf in another fact that she still doesn't hold that is that this land IS too small to divide and be able to SECURELY live in peace in 2 states in the theoretic proposed boarders which Abba Eban called the "Auschwitz boarders"(at that time the left understood that too). Plus her assumption the p@lastinians would continue to be honest about their intentions (and that therfore the issraeli PM should repeatedly make the statment she said) comes again from her misunderstanding of where that "honesty" comes from, it is simply because it's too unpopular to even say currenty in p@lestinitan politics, but they are definity aren't above lying when it becomes clear to the population it's in their intrest to do so, and they even have a permission to do so in isl@m(AKA "t@qiyah" and more).

[@hilamerhavy]

חמודה❤❤❤מה לא הבנת ?? אנו יוצאי אסיה וערב ידענו לגמרי.להבא אנא הקשיבו ובכבוד🙏

[@GertrudFahnenbruck-cz8fg]

???????

[@lucifertheharpist]

Don't forget Kazaria and Ukraine, which is where the Kazarian King in 741 AD converted his people to Judaism, so he can take a stance against his Muslim and Christian enemies. Those Jews later spoke Yiddish, a sort of amalgamation of other languages, after the fall of Kazaria to the Tartarians in the 1300s. So that's how Europe got filled with homeless Jews who only spoke Yiddish. Y'all didn't just flood from Asia and Arabia and concentrate in Europe.

[@the1ghost764]

I like Trump's proposition. Move the Palestinians to Jordan, Egypt, and Indonesia.

[@MarSee-o1u]

Since this, Dr Wilf should be pleased with the position that Netanyahu and Trump are taking.

[@martiakatz8442]

you let her spend half the time explaining one point about the fact that the palestinian arabs dont like israel

[@julialevin9752]

Ms. Wilff is the only one who makes sense here. The two “boys” say nothing of weight.

[@jittmet7766]

They're just the hosts. She is the interviewee.

[@yardengali]

I just don't get why people in power do not listen to Einat..until the guy in the tshirt starts talking . He is clearly a conservative and thus not a visionary. Both his kind of thinking and the left kind of thinking have ruled the situation up till now and its not working in bringing any change. He is the same as why he doesn't believe others could change

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

Being a visionary isn't going to change the existence of the Muslim. Sorry. The guy in the T-Shirt is simply living on Planet Earth and using his brain. I can't imagine how one could get so confused, No Offense. The left nor the right have ruled anything up until now.. but ya know what has ? Islam. The Muslims. You really are sitting here saying the right doesn't want change lol We are the visionaries who created a Nation with no slavery and equality for all .. but I digress. It's the Muslims.. And I say Muslims rather than just Gazans.. because it's all of them. They have called the shots, set the stage and determined the fates of the innocent. They have invaded, slaughtered, raped, enslaved and colonized for 1400 years. I can assure you they have no desire to change their mind about Israel, for any reason.

[@thelastnutmeg5422]

The Palestinian identity won’t even be able to pretend to say what Eiant is asking them to say, and that’s how you know they are not serious.

[@dima_krezu]

34:53 very interesting take!

[@AlanAlan-il2mq]

Settler colonial logic: Our invasion was *resisted* Which *proves* our invasion was *justified*

[@myopinions1]

Until yidden see kamikazes as Kamikazes over 6 million yidden are... The kamikazes have no problem with every kamikaze being the cost of their cause even if that's half or the whole world.

[@colinress]

Enat, you are so eloquent as usual. I think the history between the Jews and the Muslims from Persia to Morocco is so relevant to blocking a solution that it should be discussed. The Arabs have looked at Jews as Dhimmis for 1,200 years. When the ruler of the Ottoman Empire decided to abolish the status of Dhimmis in the middle of the 19th century the Arab Muslims continued to apply it wherever they could and today they still can’t accept any Jews being not just their equals but wealthier and better educated and having a better life than themselves. That is the root of the problem. A religious reformation of Islam is the only way. Until that is achieved the Jews and the Arabs can’t live next to each other.

[@christineperera2393]

Einat if and when Israel has the next election, Caroline Glick and you should stand up for Israel like the late Mrs Golda Meir (May her soul rest in peace) did at the inception of the nation of Israel .

[@jazzsnare]

Their ideology wont change. They think it is eternal truth.

[@lucifertheharpist]

What's funny is, Islam is actually 5000 years old. Bishop Lucifer of Sardinia plagiarized the ancient Quran and wrote the Holy Bible around 325AD. Jews were invented much much later, possibly by the King of Kazaria himself around 741 AD as opposition to the other two Abrahamic religions, and they may have invented their own false history. After the fall of Kazaria to #Tartaria, the Jews flooded Europe with Yiddish speaking homeless people who had no nation anymore because they lost the war. So they reinvented themselves as THE ORIGINAL PEOPLE OF ISRAEL to save face.

[@Rubiagirl86]

Palestinians need strong, reasonable leadership. Leaders are needed who think pragmatically rather than being driven by ideology and a desire for revenge. It may also indicate the need for international mediation. But who will do it?

[@BarbaraHellerArtistandEducator]

❤

[@kerstinklingelhoeffer6759]

Compliments for the storytelling. How about legal equality like yr Israeli Arab minority?

[@endertotem4354]

33:35 the lack of self awareness here is AMAZING!

[@ingridduncan6686]

ALAYAH:THE LURE OF RETURN:IS GODHEAD.

[@Upadastra]

The change in European society only came after Adenauer and De Gaulle came out of the cathedral of Reims hand in hand.

[@chaimhandler1]

Firstly, Einat is exceptionally eloquent and I agree with most of what she has to say. But I find her brainstorm, that one could know what Palestinians want if you listen to what they say, to be rather ironic. People on my side of the aisle were saying that since the people on her side began pushing for a two state solution, but they didn't pay attention to us any more than they paid attention to the Palestinians. So "no shit, sherlock!" Secondly, she has a bit of a point when she says that opposing "Palestinianism" doesn't make one a Rightist. A true Rightist, a nationalist, opposes giving away any of the ancestral home of the Jewish People, especially Judea and Samaria, the very heartland of our national home. We might agree to doing so if that is what it takes to survive, but we would lament having to do so, not celebrate it.

[@Elena_abl]

57:48 I don’t mean to be offensive to her but that is the most naive take. It’s written in the Koran/Hadith that Muslims can fake agreements with infidels. So it doesn’t matter what they say, they’ll break the agreement. What would be her solution for that?

[@J-bw4sr]

A right to exist doesn’t mean “right to commit genocide” …Israel’s apartheid, brutal ethno state, and now genocide will not work out well for any of us

[@GertrudFahnenbruck-cz8fg]

Sie haben keine Ahnung von der Definition von Apartheid und Völkermord , also informieren Sie sich zuerst, bevor Sie solche unnützen Kommentare abgeben

[@1DaTJo]

@J buy a dictionary and learn what big words mean before you embarrass yourself trying to use them.

[@1DaTJo]

@@GertrudFahnenbruck-cz8fgisn’t it amazing how totally brain dead these pro pal more ons are!

[@lucifertheharpist]

​@@GertrudFahnenbruck-cz8fgPerhaps you are the uneducated one. Refusing to acknowledge the obvious parallels the whole world can see makes it embarrassing to even talk to you.

[@Twoblues1235]

Where's that button boys?

[@ShmullyBlesofsky]

Ok common that’s never happening. She’s incredible though.

[@robinalexander5558]

Her “speech” is a PR proposal. What doesn’t he understand?

[@bluestar6879]

Einat still talks like a politician by answering "Israel moving to the Right" with her BS waffly words.

[@Doctor0026]

Good, articulate hosts.. Recommend they bolster their intellectual faculties with more reading and less parroting of emotion. The North Star is the main navigatable star that faithfully guides the navigator to their destination. The good Doctor"s sextant appears to be well calibrated and is worthy of a vote consideration.

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

The good times create soft leaders image, is not a meme. A meme is like a joke or something funny... That is simply a image quote.

[@ItalZimba]

Just a thought experiment.. But if a muslim man-judeic woman get together somehow, judeic man-muslim woman which nation- state could they move to be left alone to be loving and marry... would thwy allow it from both sides relgiously or illegally by religion or maybe even unalived.. which way more likely force to convert.. Woud a converted be allowed to live palestine or Israel.. Which would allow what.. By sharia women cant marry or convert like a holy law right? so would the man need to be converting even if not want to.. would judeic state and country allow muslim convert to judeic ?