Tyla ISN’T the MEAN GIRL you THINK she is…

#tyla #hallebailey #mtvaward
Let’s talk….

[@bell_knight]

The way people ignore the blatant red flags with ice spice but make up shit for tyla & chapel is wild imo

[@DominiqueNicole144]

Ice Spice has been dragged her entire "career", and I've seen a few videos pop up recently about Chapell (though I barely know her)... It's not always 'this or that' lol...

[@bell_knight]

@@DominiqueNicole144i don’t intend to promote this or that thinking, it was simply a comparison of ppl on the internet acting unaware of publicly available knowledge vs trying to come up with anything to cancel someone. Maybe I’m unaware but as far as I knew about ice only relatively recently have I seen hate towards ice spice. Until the past few months she was damn near untouchable because her male base and pre beef barbs would go to bat for her at any turn. Have seen people gassing her for years despite people close to her irl saying she was hurtful?

[@DanitiaAfonsoewa]

Exactly they want to drag Tyla so bad but Ice spice is right there being a bad person

[@Loola345]

@@DanitiaAfonsoewayou guys been coming for ice spice since day 1😭😭 she’s not a bad person either

[@Boohurghhoo]

@@Loola345no no she is..she has a pattern that’s very out there now.

[@Poocheon]

She radiates sheer, genuine confidence and not many women/girls are ready to have that conversation.

[@Model_Roe]

I'm saying this as a black female black women unfortunately tend to be the most insecure against other black women and this is worldwide because in our culture very few of us are really "winning" like that seeing a young attractive black women being celebrated living her best life is triggering for a lot of them I remember they did this to Beyonce and Rihanna and most recently Lori Harvey Tyla was out of pocket yesterday and as a fan I really don't think she would have done that to Sabrina Carpenter or any other white artiste but my hope is that she's young and she'll learn and I hope she ignores the trolls online a lot of black women dragging her would feel more comfortable seeing as a baby momma to some drugged up D list rapper and that's just facts but she does need to come correct in the future and I think she will

[@avajaulin623]

I agree with you. I also think many American women don’t realize that women in other countries, even if the living conditions are not what we consider ideal or whatever, have a confidence level that is unmatched. As in they don’t shrink themselves to fit into a certain box so when they come over here with this open confidence, I really think it Makes the audience feel like she needs to pipe down, but really why should she? She’s at the top of her career right now. When she the most confident receiving award?

[@Boohurghhoo]

@@Model_Roewhy are you everywhere in comments talking down on other black women like you met every black woman there is to meet? We get it you had sour interactions with other black women but heal cuz this is clown shit. Generalizing black women off the few you met or the few that “attack” your favs is crazy. I hate when “other black ppl” speak on other black ppl like the really know all abt them personally and dk shit for shit. You had bad experiences? Ok but stop putting it as all or most.

[@jjjones4502]

@@Model_Roeshe’s not black tho. She’s “colored” which is basically mixed. She has said that herself.

[@KahtiaMusic]

​@@Model_Roe I'm saying this as a black woman that has worked with a lot of white women/ non-black women, that "mean girl, nice nasty, hateful to other women energy" is a cultural norm outside of the black community more than you think. Others tend to handle people they literally hate (especially other women) in a covert, passive aggressive & political way instead of how upfront most black women are. It's the same thing, just cultural differences.

[@rebekahnewman3876]

everybody’s a girls girl until a gorgeous woman with a cute personality walks in !!

[@Itzkeisha]

Ooop tell em

[@whomealissa]

Her personality is trash.

[@suzimeta6501]

Tell’em ‼️

[@BritneyRamirez22]

Clock that!

[@Bleepbleep_]

Reallllll

[@terrancethomas3675]

People are dragging this! They want this girl out of here so bad

[@trxphywaif]

Y’all always love to say that when it’s one of your favs. Let ppl have their opinion without y’all always swearing that ppl are hating and “dragging” the situation. Dragging it would still be talking abt it a week from now, it hasn’t even been 48hrs relax.

[@babygirla5717]

@@trxphywaifPeople hating sis whether you like it or not. Lets just assume you wanna those haters as well. Let’s stop being overly dramatic about something that’s not that serious OK. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Model_Roe]

Jealousy is real that's all I can say yes she was out of pocket but she's young and hopefully she'll learn

[@SupernaturalLove100]

@@trxphywaif Bro. Stop. Envious Blk girls been callin Tyla a “colorist” and trying to label her referring to her culture as “coloured” as “anti Black” since she stepped on the scene . They want to demonize her badly. This is yet another attempt by calling her a “mean girl” over asking someone to hold the award while looking at Nas. Youre another hater it seems.

[@SupernaturalLove100]

@@Model_Roe She wasn’t out of pocket for looking at nas and asking him to hold her award. Plenty white women have done it during speeches and yall ain’t had nothin to say but when it’s a lightskin black girl then she’s “outta pocket” fohhh yall so insufferable bro💀

[@Chuuzus]

i am sorry y’all can never make me hate on Tyla. the last time Americans hated on a foreign artist like this was Rihanna. this just shows that Tyla is doing something right and she is in fact an IT girl

[@khala.g5358]

@chuuzus Ariana! What are you doing here?

[@Model_Roe]

Exactly 💯 I remember they did this to Beyonce and Rihanna I'm saying this as a black female so don't come for me but black women tend to be the most insecure when it comes to black women who are attractive seem to have it going on and aren't struggling they did this to Beyonce and Rihanna black women were so mean to Beyonce when she first started people forget it's only now they're celebrating her

[@vangoghsotherear4114]

@@Model_Roe this just isn't true we loved both of them. it was yt people who didn't like them and we had to constantly defend them against racism and sexism. idk how old you are but your memory is false.

[@mariabrown6926]

​@@Model_Roegirl wtf are you talking about?? 😂 Black women made up the majority of Beyonce and Rihanna's fan bases when they were rising to fame, Beyonce was literally the favorite member of Destiny's Child 😂

[@Model_Roe]

@@mariabrown6926 are you old and slow? You sound like you're 50 grow up grandma

[@idontknowanymore7689]

She's young, confident, and new to fame. None of her actions express nastiness, more of a casualness. If people think asking someone to hold an award or looking at a camera funny is nasty then they'd be distraught if they knew how other South Africans act.

[@Model_Roe]

Well facts are she was out of pocket for doing that and respectfully I think we can assume she'd never do that to Sabrina Carpenter for example or any white artiste my hope they s because she's young is that she'll learn and come correct in the future

[@varldinesss26]

If that’s how y’all act then we don’t like y’all either.. like is the fact that y’all do it too supposed to make it not annoying?

[@varldinesss26]

But to be fair I don’t think all this qualifies her as rude. She just has a big ego.

[@bloomc930]

@@Model_Roe I think she definitely would have done it to Sabrina Carpenter.

[@SupernaturalLove100]

If she was dark skin, the “mean girl” allegations over her doing nothing but existing would be labeled colorism. I would label the dumb labels placed upon Tyla as xenophobia, envy and insecurity🤷🏾‍♀️

[@astrojolie6535]

She literally just started everything. Barely talks to yall… then yall wonder why we have no pop stars left bc yall literally drag their every move.

[@sewgeekdesigns9113]

Something I deal with at work 😅keeping to yourself bothers folks….. sis said tunnel vision on my career I bet she does her events and goes home

[@krismiskarol]

There are "no popstars left" because artist development and media training are in the shtr 😂 People hardly care about getting dragged tbh

[@astrojolie6535]

@@krismiskarol whyyyyy should they care ?? YALL DONT KNOW THEM get a life

[@praisesade]

Literally or stalk tf out of them

[@cheneroodt]

I am South African and Tyla represents us so well. Tyla is not mean, she is fiesty. Its who we are to our core. We are secure in who we are and so is Tyla. I think it can be difficult for others to pin us South Africans when they don't know our sense of humor.

[@Sara-jd4gi]

I agree 🎉

[@thetimeofourlives.2128]

This

[@aliyahabader]

As a fellow South African, I agree! South Africans also tend to be very jokey and we don’t take everything so seriously, I think it’s also a cultural difference.

[@lunomalangabi]

THIS!!! Tyla represents us so well. She literally acts the way me and my friends do. Americans just aren't used to it and interpret it as arrogance

[@onakononkonyana]

Yess we give eachother many side eyes , tease it's just us 😂

[@meentage]

People been calling for a diva until an actual diva walks in 😅

[@Jay-jj3fh]

Perfectly said 😂

[@tylerhackner9731]

Exactly lol she ain’t been around long enough to be one

[@bexiexz]

this

[@vangoghsotherear4114]

@@tylerhackner9731 no she has not lol.

[@InAllHerGlory]

Who has been calling for a Diva? 👀

[@asherife]

The fact that people are labelling her an “uppity African” is so CRAZY to me

[@prettynikky2097]

Armon Wiggins started that.

[@mojadah10]

Didn’t she call herself that? In her IG bio or something?

[@godrules3596]

​@@mojadah10 Yes but thats her owning it she didn't call herself that

[@munchk1n393]

Tf is that 🤣💀 who said that

[@crispri3919]

​@@munchk1n393 Literally one single gay dude on twitter and south africans have blown it up to "black Americans said this black Americans think this" yet when we hold all 1,000 of them on our timeline the past few days accountable for calling us slaves, saying we are jealous because we don't have "beautiful light skins" in our country, etc we are generalizng. Maybe it isn't tyla that rubs black Americans the wrong way but her coon fanbase.

[@ninthefrog3911]

She even apologizes for asking for a favour like this isn't a big deal. People need to calm down and leave this girl alone.

[@BritneyRamirez22]

Tyla genuinely does not give me any bad vibe but the jealousy turning into hate for her is apparent!

[@bloomc930]

People keep saying its Jealousy and I don't think it is. Its likely more complicated than that. To be honest I have family from African who say or have mannerism that appear rude to me and I have to remind myself into not out of malicious intent. People have had no previous exposure to a beautiful and talented young coloured woman who is confident and has the her mannerisms. She is very sweet and cute but in an different cultural lense it appears rude. Its unfortunate that people are not looking at it from her point of view but I wouldn't say its out of jealousy. Just ignorance maybe

[@coolida23511]

​@@bloomc930Exactly. Tyla just seems to lack the social and self-awareness to appeal to American audiences.

[@TooflessSapien]

@@coolida23511 Self-awareness? She's self-aware enough. She should not need to change in order to be accepted by foreign audiences. The way Americans talk about ppl from other cultures as if their behaviours are backward is really quite gross.

[@samanthayates8812]

​@@TooflessSapien then she can get off our stages and out of our country

[@viaisabeauty7540]

@@bloomc930Thank you so much for this!! Honestly, before her hate trains started, I was like “Damn, I really wanna like her , but something is off idk” lol. Like, I LOVE her music, I think she’s absolutely gorgeous and can dance her ass off…but her personality just rubs me wrong and I could not pinpoint why until now lol. It’s simply a cultural misunderstanding. In America, we’re big in “paying dues” and having humility when first meeting someone (which it does seems she lacks)…you have to EARN the diva title here…and I’m guessing in SA it’s not like that 🤷🏾‍♀️. This comment actually made me like her more 😆

[@IfeoluwasimipoAdemuyiwa-oo3uw]

She literally said I AM SORRY , THANK YOU AND PLEASE Gosh ! What else do you want ?! She even apologized

[@musicbytoffie]

I know right????!!!

[@mojadah10]

Hold yo own isht!

[@cici2716]

💯

[@daisyd3w3491]

People like to hate her because she is a beautiful and outgoing woman. Like we've known that people like to hate on pretty women, but they also can't stand when you're "too" ourgoing/extroverted/loud

[@6yv789]

Please is Rihanna not beautiful and outspoken and then why do people like her

[@babygirla5717]

@@6yv789There has been many people hating Rihanna so your comment is invalid.

[@daisyd3w3491]

​​@@6yv789 my guess is that she has more of a bad bitch energy than tyla, so it's interpreted differently and rihanna has been in the industry way longer than tyla atp. Also I think many of us know or ARE a woman with those characteristics that is not well liked (esp by older women !) eventhough they didn't do anything wrong or shady

[@Model_Roe]

Facts not to mention they did the same thing to Rihanna and Beyonce when they were both Tyla's age it's only now they're getting celebrated as "queens"but in their youth black women online would drag the both of them all day everyday I can only chalk this up to jealousy

[@taehyung_saidnotoships]

​@@Model_Roe Tyla is "colored" that's what we call ourselves.

[@Lolaanne174]

I’ve seen so many clips of other celebrities asking for their VMA awards to be held. Before they hand it to the artists they tell them that it’s heavy. People are dragging it. Why weren’t the other celebrities dragged. The hate is forced

[@Imaloveschinesefood]

Exactly! And she was so polite about it. She just needed the help at the moment. The hate is definitely forced.

[@Ladybugg222_]

I agree she said please and thank you it’s not like she was being rude and snobby. People made it seem like she was having an attitude about it. This is an over exaggeration.

[@raicyner843]

Stiflers mom put hers on the ground at the golden globes lol and everyone thinks she's iconic

[@tylerhackner9731]

She’s not a mean girl or diva, she’s just awkward and new to the industry imo

[@bloomc930]

Yeah she needs media training but its just weird that she hasnt received it yet because she has a brand to protect

[@SupernaturalLove100]

@@bloomc930 No she doesn’t. If she doesn’t want to talk abt something she doesn’t have to talk abt it; she doesn’t have to be anyone’s teacher on her culture, she doesn’t have to be. No black woman has to be . Blk Americans are too entitled.

[@jessw.6250]

I agree

[@bloomc930]

​@@SupernaturalLove100 If Taylor Swift and Beyonce (WITH FATHERS WHO WERE EXECUTIVES IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY) have been forced into positions they didn't want to be in then I think Tyla fans are being unrealistic in thinking that her being in hollywood she is going to be an exception. That is simply unrealistic.

[@coolida23511]

​@@bloomc930I don't think labels invest in media training or artist development anymore.

[@carrie_heart]

It's not just confidence, people hate that they do not have the power to humble her.

[@julieandrews8981]

The devil will humble her just wait for it I know that game they are pushing her into ..

[@neonraindrop8357]

​@julieandrews8981 you mean god?

[@mojadah10]

Chile, she’s been on the scene 2 days. She has 1 hit. Who’s trying to humble her?

[@julieandrews8981]

@@neonraindrop8357 the devil first will teach her that nothing is that easy then God will have to step in to help ..she surrounded by too many wolfs in sheep's clothing n she thinks she's just famous if celebrities are following you like that they know what they are doing they are ushering into a deadly game

[@carrie_heart]

@@mojadah10 every chronically online African American 😂

[@Imaloveschinesefood]

I personally like tyla. She’s the only celebrity I’m rooting for because it’s not easy to come up from Africa. People hated her from the moment she came out. I’m rooting for her success in the industry.

[@MakaylaWilliams-y3c]

Rhianna 😂what the heck people

[@Tapuyoyo1]

????? ​@@MakaylaWilliams-y3c

[@alkahinat4558]

@@MakaylaWilliams-y3c hun, Rihanna is from Barbados 😂 I know she looks extremely Nigerian and probably has the heritage, but she’s an island gal 🏝️❤

[@MakaylaWilliams-y3c]

@alkahinat4558 I guess but Rhianna never corrected anyone when people called her an African artist. Plus her parents are African

[@TooflessSapien]

​@@MakaylaWilliams-y3cThat doesn't make her African

[@awasohna3959]

I still feel like the reason why some Americans specifically african americans dislike tyla is because she identifies as coloured and not black. Some african Americans wanted her to identify as black because of the one drop rule , which is weird because she is literally mixed. I feel like it's a mix of xenophobia and pure jealousy of her talent because so far she hasn't been problematic.

[@Model_Roe]

If she identified as black black women would be dragging her online saying she's not black etc etc I have no problems with Tyla identifying as mixed because that's her heritage people need to grow up already

[@taehyung_saidnotoships]

Yes thankyou!! They don't know our history!

[@vangoghsotherear4114]

we didnt WANT her to identify as black. we just only want to support black artists at this time.

[@MSMETALBABY]

I think it may be this as well.

[@bloomc930]

Why does she even talk about her race? Just say my family comes to certain regions and I was born in SA. Race is a sensitive topic in America and xenophobia is inevitable based on the history.

[@jo7433]

People say let’s protect her from the industry, yet they are the first ones jumping into conclusions and exaggerate everything to find a way to hate on her 😕

[@awesomeirlable]

As a black girl that's neurodivergent and has constantly been dubbed rude for not recognizing social faux pas...I don't understand it. What exactly did Tyla do that was so tone deaf?

[@prettytee7525]

Idek i had to read the comments

[@romyoliax6624]

same like ?? People know she is not a mean person

[@Charsy8]

I'm AuDHD and I have never seen her being rude (the way I understand it). Quite the opposite really, she strikes me as a very down to earth humble/genuine girl, who is just the right ammount of confident for her looks and talents. I feel like more people need to be like her, tbh.

[@yubelwish]

Let's all be honest and say the quite part loud... *They are jealous!* Once people are envious from a negative place they will have a problem with you just being present. When you ask them why they have a problem, they can never give a *real* reason why.

[@LondonMoneyCashEnterprise]

As an autistic guy the same thing

[@bi.fruitsalad]

They’re comparing Ayra with Tyla when they literally collaborated together on “girl next door” and are on good terms ….😭

[@praisesade]

NO REALLY THO omg they really don’t want to see them unite and want to put them against eachother

[@unhoely7925]

Because it doesn’t fit the narrative about Tyla that they want. While some light skin/ mixed woman have definitely shown this weird energy for other dark skin black women that is not the character Tyla has shown so far AND I’m not gonna hate on her for actions that haven’t happened yet.

[@miirah7]

It’s the truth😂 everywhere I see some people comparing them when they’re equally great🤧

[@limofootball]

They don't like Ayra at all. They're just trying to use her to justify their hate for tyla bc both African but ayra fully black. Trust me, they hate her just as much. They just haven't found a reason to showcase their hatred. Let Ayra win and see.

[@teeleaf9252]

All I'm gonna say as a South African is that if these people think Tyla is a mean girl because of the way she carries herself then they will never last a day in Jozi 😢

[@nompumelelojoyce]

🤣🤣🤣i am not surprised, these are the same people that think Africa is a country and we live with lions

[@Snicker_Snicket22]

Honestly? I think it was impulsive. We’ve all done awkward things without thinking about how it will look in the moment, and not until after do we completely face-palm out of embarrassment asking ourselves: “why did I do that??” I’m very willing to believe the award was actually heavy, and without thinking she just asked for help. Especially in a moment like that you’re not really thinking, you’re seeing tunnel-vision, really nervous and a little frantic. People need to chill.

[@MultiNat98]

This point!!!! Summarised my entire thought process beautifully.

[@yungtokyo7941]

People need to chill but at the same time I see how it comes off in the moment to others too. I’m the “strong girl” so other women asking me to do things they can’t is annoying even if they aren’t thinking in the moment and ik they aren’t trying to be rude. Also she could’ve just used two hands to hold it like most people. I don’t think she deserves to be turned into a villain over it, but poking fun is fine.

[@NuriaLuria]

Holding the heavy award combined with walking in a heavy dress and heels ooohhh I would be praying I wouldn't fall

[@rai2423]

@@yungtokyo7941 Why would you project your own experiences on to Tyla though? She wasn’t asking a woman to hold the award in the first place, she was asking a man. So what’s the problem of her asking a MAN to hold something heavy? Like are you mentally sick?

[@the_originative_author3893]

Best comment! Totally agree

[@hawahkalokoh]

I find the people that don’t like her are mainly black Americans don’t wanna add to diaspora wars but it’s the truth the make the most noise on the whole Tyla discourse

[@cranburrey]

I notice that pattern too because you dont see anyone of other races hating on Tyla

[@Model_Roe]

Exactly 💯 I'm Jamaican and we love her out here I remember they did this same thing to Rihanna and Beyonce like Tyla just needs to ignore the trolls I swear they'd feel more comfortable seeing her as a single momma by some D list rapper so they can feel better about themselves SMH

[@alkahinat4558]

Some of them are very xenophobic and it’s quite sad I’m bicultural and feel like that’s why I’ve never been that tribal Also, I don’t think pushing African artists in the USA is necessary, people who like the music will seek it out. Doing it this way just adds to the tension already there and it’s not fair to the artists.

[@TooflessSapien]

​@@alkahinat4558Why should African artists not be pushed in American media? Why should their success be curtailed? All sorts of American media are constantly pushed all over the world, and no one ever complains about it. Why is an African artist succeeding internationally triggering? Reflect on your xenophobic ideals.

[@Breonaleonard]

🎯Bingo ! They’re made she didn’t want to call herself black. She’s not black

[@stilllame]

Short story but I've "met" Tyal before at a casting in like 2019. She had the same energy, her confidence was so high and authentic I went home and told my mom about "this girl" at the casting who just gave star power. I didn't even talk to her but you could tell she had a clear goal and idea of herself(not rude or as if she thinks shes better than the next from what i could tell). I would like to also add, most South Africans have alot of confidence. It might not appear the same way in everyone but we all have a real sense of self. Lastly, I think she's humble but not modest enough for people. And honestly that's their problem, she's winning and that's because of her confidence.🎉

[@DanielOkungbowa]

People hate on beautiful, confident women of colour. The darker you are, the more you are “cocky”, “overconfident”, “presumptuous”. Anyway Tyla clearly doesn’t give a fuck and she’s growing her fanbase and she’s doing all the right things. I’m rooting for her!

[@Model_Roe]

It's not just darker skinned girls I mean black women are just very insecure and I'm saying this as a black female they did the same thing to Rihanna and Beyonce who are both light like seeing black women who are "winning" is just super triggering for them and I'd even add to this day a lot of black women for whatever reason don't like Meg thee Stallion like Tyla needs to mind the business that pays her and ignore the trolls because a lot of these haters are miserable and unhappy

[@bloomc930]

I think there is a danger to this mindset however, you can have a fanbase but too much negative press can sunt career growth. She needs to curate her media appearances more thoughtfully without changing her personality or confidence. The MTV stage interaction was definitely not a good look even though Im sure she had zero ill intention on her side. People dont want authenticity, they want authenticity wrapped in a PR package.

[@Model_Roe]

@@bloomc930 agree 💯 I love Tyla but she definitely out of pocket last night and I only say that because I can't fathom her doing that to someone like Sabrina Carpenter or Olivia Rodrigo I know she's young and I think she'll learn but if she wants the American black dollar she's gonna have to come correct because people will cancel her quick

[@MakaylaWilliams-y3c]

​@Model_Roe why don't you think that? Like what proof?

[@TooflessSapien]

​@Model_Roe So she has to kiss black American *ss to make it in the industry? Wow. Not Black Americans gate-keeping what black person gets to be in the music industry. She'll be fine financially without your xenophobia-tinged support.

[@AllaboutTheCalm478]

Holding a heavy award whilst giving a speech is way different to holding it and taking a quick picture bffr

[@benitaeje-aya4726]

Absolutely the only person I've seen say this. And you're so right!

[@haniiyamw6796]

And the speech was important because she had to explain the whole afrobeats and amapiano thing.

[@asmahaddad9364]

THIS

[@bookssssss]

I was looking for this comment omg thank u. She was probably nervous as hell and needed to focus on speaking bro, I can’t with this generation always assuming the worst

[@noproblems3192]

Thank you!!!

[@glitterboxcentral17]

So nice seeing an British commentator so clued up on different cultures. Much love from SA ! ❤🇿🇦

[@kabelo4321]

but lol she's British😂😂👉🏽🇬🇧

[@glitterboxcentral17]

@@kabelo4321lmao I'll take it 😂 thanks for that though IDK why I went there I literally watch watch her 😂

[@track7964]

Honestly everyone is just deeping it too much. Not everything needs to be scrutinised. I also think Americans are overreacting because they don’t like that she doesn’t identify as black, but instead coloured

[@Model_Roe]

If she identified as black they would be dragging her saying she ain't black like let the girl be lol

[@viaisabeauty7540]

Tbh, the word “colored” is seen as very offensive to most African Americans…and with the whole SA apartheid thing with “coulored” ppl being socially above black people, that’s probably triggering too. I get what she meant when she said she was colored ( I’m AA btw) , but I think a lot of ppl were just thrown off by it. Doesn’t mean it’s right, I just think there’s honestly misunderstanding happening. People should just educate themselves though, honestly, almost everyone has access to Google lol

[@nandi_m04]

​@@viaisabeauty7540 Understandably so. I'm SA btw but I do agree that when she's in a country like the US she should be respectful and identify with what's more acceptable there without losing her own identity.

[@viaisabeauty7540]

@@nandi_m04 I agree…When in Rome, do as the Romans do right? Lol I think if she would’ve just said “mixed” then no one would’ve batted an eyelash. There’s tons of mixed artists like Doja Cat, Saweetie, and Latto and no one cares that they’re mixed lol

[@falliblepossiblygullible2920]

​​@@nandi_m04I disagree. Maybe use a different term such as biracial? Yes. But to start identifying as black, something she clearly didn't identify as till this point, is crazy. I do get why they are pissed with it. It literally is trauma v trauma. Different kinds of trauma lead to these identity constructions and theirs isn't the only one we should be recognising

[@Olson_GothNxtch]

As a South African, nobody would blink twice at that clip. Honestly any South African celebrities would've played along and even laughed, SA humor seems rude or mean to some people but genuinely 80% of our humor is so non serious.

[@praisesade]

Literally (coming from a Nigerian) people find our humor offensive sometimes they just don’t know the culture 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@aliyahabader]

As a South African, I second this. We joke about everything, it’s our coping mechanism🤣🇿🇦

[@mojadah10]

It wasn’t a joke, it was a request. A serious one at that. She actually expected them to hold it.

[@Olson_GothNxtch]

@@mojadah10 Still a very South African thing to do tbh, like I said people here are very unserious unless it's a serious matter that shouldn't be joked about. What we consider normal is likely offensive to others and that's okay. Here nobody would blink an eye, joke or not, but that seemingly is a no no in the states.

[@Mimi-ry1sq]

@@mojadah10 you just do not understand

[@nameisamine]

I feel like if a White, Latin, or Asian artist had asked anybody to hold their award, this wouldn’t be a discourse. There is 100% diasporic tension between black Americans and Africans over Tyla, and to call her an “Uppity African” was a little xenophobic, I’m sorry, it was. *Her being “African”isn’t the problem* so why call her an “uppity African”? Why do her actions represent Africa? Why are foreigners “inconsiderate”? It’s giving xenophobia, I’m so sorry, Armon has a blind spot there and he should temper his language. If a white American had called her an “uppity African” they would’ve most definitely been called out for their xenophobic racist comments.

[@TheSeaBase]

Hispanic/ latin get this too cuz mixed African ancestry. We also get called uppity for not identifying as black if we appear with similar phenotypes.

[@ygr3437]

Rihanna is well respected because she built her way up to that level. She backs it up in every way 💯

[@apinychuang1624]

American award shows still not knowing the difference between Ampiano and Afrobeats and lumping them up together as if they’re the same is the biggest crime out of all of this. They might as well call it the “African music award” at this point 😭 It’s giving the same energy as someone who confuses two black people and says, “you all look the same” vibes

[@DanitiaAfonsoewa]

Girl there not ready for that conversation BlackPink Lisa won an award for Best Kpop song and whole song was in English no Korean she should have been in pop song category 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@onyeka.g3]

Truth is they’re too ignorant to care😭 Lmaooo

[@Boohurghhoo]

African artist is gonna get African music which must be Afro beat. They don’t care, you should be well aware of that by now.

[@luminescentdreams3734]

I'm from SA and I back this girl so much. Black Americans really hate seeing Africans win. Tyla has constantly had to justify everything she does because of them. Let the girl win in peace yoh. P.S Keisha your SAan accent has me rolling.

[@gamerjanai]

Y'all are so racist. This is just not true. I'm really sick of this narrative that comes over here.

[@luminescentdreams3734]

@@gamerjanai idk how me being black calling out black people is racist but okay. I just think the girl needs to be allowed to be herself. If you know anything about coloured people from SA you would understand that the way she behaves, how she talks, the attitude she has is very much common. Coloured people have a lot of pride. So it's weird when people attack her for being herself.

[@AnA___09Ww]

​​@@luminescentdreams3734 First Place Black People Can Be Racist Towards Black People LOL Even In History You Know That Black People Captured Other Black People And Second Place Tyla Is In The Land Of The North Americans And Not In South Africa If Any North American Did The Same In South Africa You Would Criticize Them Even So Stop Whining 🗣️

[@ilovelife3328]

That’s not true at all. (Black)?America LOVES Tems, Davido, Wizkid, etc! Tyla is just engaging in behavior that makes people question her character. Time will tell if she is a mean girl or not.

[@luminescentdreams3734]

@@ilovelife3328 The discourse began when she told people she's coloured let's bfr. Let her have her moment.

[@Sive_Nyanda]

Ever since Tyla won a Grammy people are presssssed 😅 let the girl live!!

[@lutholudwaba1307]

Your South African accent though💀😂😂 I laughed so hard.

[@rebecca1331]

I actually have zero idea how to feel about Tyla right now. I feel like sometimes people are obsessed with humbling other people. And I feel like some people are constantly looking for a way to bring her down. However, that situation with the award was weird once you realize she held every other award she’s gotten, including that grammy. And then my whole thing was like, if you couldn’t hold it what makes you Halle could?!? I think the reality is that only certain artists can get away with a certain type of persona. The rihanna comparisons are definitely hurting Tyla’s career. When rihanna had her mean girl era (which everyone forgets about) people still stood ten toes behind her to this day. I will say the one thing I don’t like is when people think their dislike for tyla warrants them to be xenophobic. If you have an issue with tyla then you have an issue with tyla. That doesn’t give you the right to stereotype every single African and African artist. I think Tyla’s issue is she’s not crossing over to American fans properly the way rihanna did. I think the questioning of her race and how she responded hurt her and it’s been lowkey downhill since then. I don’t wanna assume she was trying to be rude but like…as someone who has been that friend who is always holding other people’s stuff like i’m some dehumanized prop, yeah it wasn’t received well.

[@jeralinsunflower7300]

I agree!!

[@Model_Roe]

They do this to a lot of pretty women in the industry especially the black community they did this to Beyonce and Rihanna and Lori Harvey like I hope Tyla ignores them and keeps doing what she's doing she has a lot of fans out here but she's also young and I think still learning

[@DominiqueNicole144]

I actually agreed with everything you wrote, an unbiased and logical pov👏🏽

[@bloomc930]

I just think her team should have trained her to stay away from discussing race. All she has to say is that my family come from different regions and I was from S.A. They didnt prepare her for how obsessed the U.S can be about race, look at Kamala Harris facing that issue as the VP and presidential candidate. Xenophobia exists even in South African and in America i dont see why this surprises people.

[@im_a_messy_kid]

I grew up where Tyla did in Johannesburg, trust me this girl is not a mean girl, she’s genuinely such a sweetheart and she just wanted to focus on speaking, I feel like atp nobody can say anything these days without getting flack for it, let’s face it people just want to hate her sooooo badly, and have beeeeeeen projecting, the girl is just trying to live her dream, she’s not the little demon people are trying to make her out to be

[@luuluumystics]

People called her beautiful and the standard of beauty. Now they're mad that she's confident and saying she's too cocky? The flip-flopping is crazy.

[@rangles1050]

I think the real issue is people need to stop branding someone or a certain look the epitome of beauty- everyone is beautiful

[@oromtitiwbo5078]

I think this is the main problem. The mixed aesthetic is erasing Blk American and that’s an internal issue but it has nothing to do with Tyla. She clarified she is coloured, and she makes Amapiano not Afrobeats or AA music or any other type. Shes making it clear she’s only representing her country South Africa and the coloured population as herself. I think America as a society, culture wants her to be the mixed woman that’s the face of Blk America like Halle Berry, Alicia Keys and Mya are. Tyla said no and it got backlash.

[@Boohurghhoo]

⁠@@oromtitiwbo5078if there’s a problem with the mixed aesthetic erasing monoracial, unambiguous AA why would they want her to be the face of it? Now some extremely lost ones might, but mims. You can’t say this is the problem and they’re mad bc they want her to be part of that same problem they have a problem with..do you see how that doesn’t make sense?

[@luuluumystics]

@@rangles1050 facts

[@Nativecurls]

Here from South Africa. Love you Keisha

[@Ariel56768]

All she did was ask if somebody could hold her award…..that’s nothing to hate her about. People are really weird and are trying to find their new celeb to beat and batter.

[@Shiann444]

I love Tyla and people will never make me dislike her. Everybody also forgets she’s super young and come from a different culture. People always find a problem with EVERYTHING

[@melissadacostacaturichi8249]

The answer to the question at 20:45 is that coloured people are their own ethnic group here in SA and they're generally from the Western Cape where a lot of countries such as Netherlands, Portugal, England have interacted with native South African people, respectively the Khoisan as well. So, I believe Tyla is referring to her greater ancestry because of the backlash that she has received from identifying herself simply as coloured.

[@slackjaw2643]

Everybody making something out of nothing. I’m glad lil Nas X stepped up and was a gentlemen for these talented women.

[@Varphi_]

👏🏽👏🏽

[@ms.tinygiant]

I think anyone in the public eye is not safe. There will always be people that will find something wrong with someone. And yes that well known person can possibly have a rude moment but that person is a human. No one is perfect, we aren’t going to be 10/10 all the time.

[@h3tur]

why do i feel her with the awkwardness bc my neurodivergent self cant tell sometimes if something’s supposedly “rude.” the amount of times i build the courage to interact with neurotypicals, just to be iced out or interpreted sumn type of way 😅 if it’s heavy she asked for help, people needa learn to ask for help more, i know that‘s something im tryna practice. i’ve been following for her years & why am i kinda sad this is what happens when she goes mainstream, every little thing is picked apart jesus 6:23 exactly. why is self deprecation the expectation, if you insult or pick on yourself ima agree right w you😭 14:55 EXACTLY!!

[@Nativecurls]

@@h3tur my thought process exactly

[@h3tur]

@@Nativecurlsshoutout the ‘tism 😭

[@praisesade]

Same I literally relate to her in a way

[@fatoub5954]

Black Americans consistently hating on her it’s weird like??

[@charmainekgomotsomokwana5625]

They Angry that she said she is coloured ( coloured is a race in SA and she is South African ) so they want her to use the one drop rule

[@DominiqueNicole144]

​@@charmainekgomotsomokwana5625I keep seeing this reasoning for black Americans being offended by her "coloured" comment, it has to do with the one drop rule lol, that's a whole other issue some ppl are having... While I, myself, understood her comment and actually really like her, here in America, "colored" was an offensive term used to describe African Americans, THAT is the issue most black Americans have with her comment...

[@DominiqueNicole144]

@@debramitchell It's not always what you say, but how you say it love 😉

[@TooflessSapien]

​​@@DominiqueNicole144Well she's not American. Why should it matter to her that Americans find the word coloured offensive? Africans don't. Blame apartheid for the existence of the distinctive races in SA, not Tyla. Jesus, Americans are ridiculous. Have you ever considered that a whole world exists outside of your social norms? She shouldn't have to parrot your lingo for you to like her.

[@praisesade]

@@charmainekgomotsomokwana5625I swear the one drop rule shit is B.S and all part of the white mans plan due to white supremacy and they just don’t realize it I hope one they will stop using that shit.

[@Zeeeeeeeestv]

One thing I would want to say is there is no wayyyyy Nigerians would watch Americans insult Ayra Starr😂

[@Correctgistlover]

Umm there us actually, if it was ayra or tems we'll fight, but considering the recent issue we just had with SA naaah we'll sit this one out.

[@onyeka.g3]

@@Correctgistlover😂

[@AvaJonxo]

@@Correctgistloveras we should. South Africans insult Nigerians every chance they get and unalive Nigerians every other month, supporting them as a Nigerian is criminal and completely insane😂😂😂

[@AuroraChemondre]

As a coloured woman, I will say that most of us are proud of our ancestry, which is why she spoke about every part of her and not just her being Zulu, Indian and coloured. I speak about my mom's side being Indian, coloured, and black, and my dad's side being Italian, Zimbabwean, and German all the time because im proud of what makes me a coloured woman. I hope this helps to clear that up for you. Love you, Keisha. 🫶

[@Model_Roe]

There is nothing wrong with Tyla identifying as mixed not to mention if she did say she was black black women would be the first people dragging her saying she ain't black

[@bloomc930]

I love how Tyla's breaking into the U.S market sheds a light at the disillusionment of pan Africanism because its a clear case of they expect her to be humble as an African girl/woman and when she is not she is arrogant. I just hopes she learns to navigate around that because its unrealistic to expect American fans to change their mindset. More than likely she is eventually going to have to assimilate. which is sort heart breaking.

[@AuroraChemondre]

@bloomc930 truly. I hope that people see how loving and kind she actually is. She just shows it the way coloureds do and not how Americans do. 🩷

[@bloomc930]

@@AuroraChemondreThat would be Amazing, although I am not so optimistic. After living in America for as long as I have, I can tell you that Americans have no interest in having any other lense outside of the American centric lense.

[@AuroraChemondre]

@@bloomc930 I'm just glad that some are thinking of it in a different lense. Thank you for having the mindset you do. 😊🫶

[@lizmad8091]

She’s beautiful and she’s damn near perfect! People can’t stand it to see someone better than them succeed.

[@melissas6208]

Im sorry. Shes been all over. Its only when shes in America there is an issue. Over the smallest thing

[@kyvienjne]

we Africans naturally have that aura of cockiness and arrogance about us. we genuinely don't mean to but it come with the territory , and how we are raised to be proud of our accomplishments and background ... so i get how that clash with the westen culture of having a air of humility and down to earthness no matter what

[@Eze-j3p]

Um do not speak for a whole continent we do not I repeat DO NOT read as cocky we are CONFIDENT simple as that so speak for yourself

[@viaisabeauty7540]

@@Eze-j3pY’all DEFINITELY can come off as cocky and arrogant…especially Nigerians…

[@kyvienjne]

@@Eze-j3p yes and that confidence will be and is read as cockiness.... people perceive our pride as being cocky..

[@Eze-j3p]

@@kyvienjne please open a dictionary instead of flippantly throwing around words like pride because we aren't prideful either unless your referring to country pride and if that's the case please elaborate next time

[@kyvienjne]

@@Eze-j3p i apologize if i didn't articulate it well.. when i say pride , i mean being prideful of ones background and a strong sense of identity .. which Tyla and most African hve

[@rajac761]

her delivery was honestly very unreasonable. all she really had to say was "would you mind holding this while i give my speech?" or "i'm a bit shaky right now would you mind holding my award while i speak?" but the whole "i'm so weak," rubbed a lot of people the wrong way because she didn't directly ask and rather expected someone to come to her "rescue," and i can see why people didn't like it, however it is blown a bit out of proportion.

[@patrizziad3446]

Because of what she said afterwards. That people were used to seing her get awards. That was cocky. And for someone who is starting now, that didn't land well. It was her whole demeanor.

[@Cacti134]

Y'all need to relax, people are literally looking for any reason to dislike her​@@patrizziad3446

[@rajac761]

@@patrizziad3446 absolutely!!

[@MarioMusiczx4Lyfe]

The way I HIGHTAILED it to this video when I saw it pop up 😂❤

[@pamelague6540]

RIGHT I SAW THE NOTIFICATION AND CLICKED ON IT SO FAST😭

[@fhxs]

It’s giving fake outrage tbh the Tyla hate train is so boringggg

[@khalikat2894]

I don't care what Americans think I will call myself coloured because that's what I am and it's a literal race class in South Africa. We will not deny our identity to spare their feelings

[@ameliabarren6470]

Exactly and they literally call themselves the n word constantly but are offended by the word coloured

[@crispri3919]

​@@ameliabarren6470 Because we reclaimed that word generations ago and still don't let outsiders say it. The word coloured hasn't been and is from a very specific time period with a very specific connotation. The way y'all think because black people are American you don't have to learn any nuances to our culture but expect the reverse says alot.

[@crispri3919]

Also south africans are coons and extremely colorist and the bullies of Africa to even nigerians so this false victim complex from the group well known for throwing rocks and hiding their hands mean nothing lol.

[@alleyezonamanda1636]

Why yall want to be acknowledged by Americans so bad tho 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@axolah]

​@@alleyezonamanda1636who said that??? lol

[@unicornlion1037]

When you did the Rihanna voice I was on the floor… it was so spot on

[@ilyzar]

People dragged this out so bad.. it's giving they just want a reason not to like tyla.

[@yuhtrendz4887]

people are also forgetting tyla has a sickness that isn’t disclosed to the public. that award must’ve been actually very heavy for her.

[@no.6377]

What???

[@defaultdacat]

😂

[@kianawillis1325]

elaborate ?

[@goyetherefore603]

They hate her bc she is pretty 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@InAllHerGlory]

This is such a delusional take. 😂 “Unattractive” people receive unnecessary mistreatment all of the time as well. People find her to be snobby and that’s their opinion. Just because you’re obsessed with looks and can’t see beyond them, doesn’t mean that others can’t. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Boohurghhoo]

@@InAllHerGlorysomeone brought up how ppl act like other ppl can’t have opinions or say their opinions on pretty ppl bc they’re pretty and every time I see these dumb ass comments that’s all I think abt. No matter how pressed certain individuals are over tyla (and anybody else, for whatever reason they feel to) it’s literally not bc she’s oh so beautiful. I’m not saying she’s not, but not liking her for whatever reason it is, does not start or stop at her being physically appealing-and that’s face, skin tone, and body. And if ppl do bring it up, that doesn’t specifically mean they “hate her” for that.

[@InAllHerGlory]

@@Boohurghhoo Exactly! The whole, “They hate me because I’m beautiful mentality is such a cope out most of the time and I think people say this to avoid accountability for their actions.

[@ItzTayyyy]

😂 if that’s the case we should hate the world cause there’s more than one pretty women on the planet

[@gelatinscraps]

@@InAllHerGloryIt’s not delusional. While people may bring up any reasons etc as to why they don’t like her, little do you know when you have biases towards someone it GREATLY impacts how you react to things they do. So if I’m intimidated or jealous of someone for WHICHEVER reason it may be, could be because she’s attractive, could be due to her confidence, or likability, that will influence my opinions on actions she takes. Versus if I had a positive bias towards someone i will create excuses for them. This would only be called delusion if this statement was being made towards someone that genuinely did something wrong.

[@hara6495]

My problem is that Americans are obsessed with humbling this girl because they think she should be grateful to them🗿 another thing is they are threatening her career almost like they gave it to her. It’s so bizarre to watch. Like the moment someone does not conform to what they think is stereotypical of Africans they wanna be up and arms about it like ? 🗿 it’s very weird how much they want her to be tail tucked and thanking everyone she passes by so much so they nitpick everything she does. It’s tiring and it’s annoying

[@purplewatermelon7102]

She seemed super apologetic and genuine while asking. Ppl are bored looking for any drama lately

[@xoxorosequartz]

i think this is a case of cultural differences/miscommunications

[@daneaspeaks6499]

Imagine being mad at someone for asking for help 😂

[@trxphywaif]

I don’t think she’s mean but that was….odd. I mean she held the award fine in the pictures so what was the problem on stage? She’s cute but the deer in headlights behavior stopped being cute years ago, she’s 22 and old enough to know how to hold a trophy. But that’s just my thoughts

[@indigoskies5434]

That’s exactly what I thought it was just a huh moment

[@trxphywaif]

@@indigoskies5434right 💀 no one is mad at her ppl are just confused as to why she was acting handicapped

[@taehyung_saidnotoships]

That award looked HEAVY

[@crystalmackle5829]

Enough with the damsel in distress persona. Girl hold your own award😅😅😅

[@rangles1050]

For me, as someone who has a medical illness that can sometimes affect like my strength [like I can't even pick up a cup of water or get out of bed] it did make me go like 😐 But that's just because it's more frustrating to me than anything. Like you have money- you're getting fame, if you really can't hold your own award then start working out cuz like 😭 Idk in a way to me I see it as like, "I wish I could hold up things with ease why are you pretending rn- this feels a little bit insulting." But again that's because I have a medical condition- I don't necessarily have the same options as Tyla would [as far as I know/I can't work out consistently]. Idk at the end of the day she should just start working out then if she can't lift up one award

[@ShimmerynightsASMR]

The outfit with the scarf and denim jacket is so cute 🩷🩷 the whole look is 😍

[@KhokhelaSipambo]

Yey! The world is literally learning so much about South Africa…and they are getting the shock of their lives…jonga! love it ke sanaz 🤣🤭😎

[@PettyJellyfish]

So a woman can't feel confident in herself without other people feeling some type a way ? I wish people could stop pushing their damn insecurities on others. She hasn't been rude to anyone.. I know this all too good the " you think you better because you look like this or you have this hair' type of woman who just hate seeing another woman loving herself.

[@yubelwish]

Right, I'm not a looker yet I had women who fit the IGBaddies look (face & body) bullied me because I was confident in my *own* style and didn't need a round butt/straight hair to feel good.

[@Soft_Khanyi]

😂 thanks for shouting us out girl 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦 we’ve beeeeeen camping here

[@Bleepbleep_]

As a south african I think people are just not use to seeing how south africans act and stuff... Also the way she asked them to HELP her was blown out of proportion.. Idk criticise her until you hold a moon person🤷🏽‍♀️

[@rangles1050]

Well- she has fame and money. If she really can't hold up an award she should start working out. Like- Seeing how she acted was a bit insulting to me because I have a medical condition that sometimes affects my muscle strength- I can't even hold up a cup of water or get out of bed, so why does this woman who has access to things many don't [personal trainers, healthy diet, etc] unable to help herself then? Like genuinely if you have trouble holding like a 15 pound award.... you should start going to the gym

[@Bleepbleep_]

@@rangles1050 first of all who are YOU to tell a grown 22year old woman what to do with her body!?? For an AWARD? It's not that serious. ALSO I'm sorry for your condition but you can't tie in what you are dealing with, with someone else's body strength YOU DON'T KNOW HER. I'm sorry to say but it's not about you. She was kindly asking for HELP.... HELP. Nah something is wrong with people😭😭 I'll say again let's hear your barking once you hold your own moon person otherwise kindly stfu😍 she won a vmaaa

[@TooflessSapien]

She's not acting cocky or rude. Some black Americans are just xenophobic and want to gatekeep what black people get to make it in the music industry. They don't like that she doesn't mimick their behaviours and doesn't represent their culture and their views. They are so narrow-minded that they don't realise that she's not black American. She doesn't owe them anything.

[@TooflessSapien]

​@@rangles1050You're triggered someone you've never met is weak and is not focusing on building strength? Seek help

[@rangles1050]

@@TooflessSapien um. Not triggered- its just ridiculous an adult woman can't hold 15 pounds. I think you need go seek help if you think that's somehow healthy

[@emilyonizuka4698]

also holding the award, billy porter wrote about winning an award in his memoir. he got his award and tried to pull out his speech but couldn't while also holding his award and was about to put it down on the ground, but luckily the person who presented the award (forget who) took it from him before he put it down which he was so embarrassed he almost did. anyway, idk if tyla had to pull out a written speech or something but it could've been that, but holding it after she was clearly using her other hand to help balance it.

[@amedjawilliams9765]

i think we as south african relate more to you guys in england cause unlike the americans no shade you tend to understand us more

[@alkahinat4558]

A lot of us are 1st, 2nd or 3rd gen, so we’re very close to our original cultures, maybe that’s why Also, the U.K. is extremely diverse. You can’t get very far being narrow minded and intolerant of other people’s cultures, people will just look at you as ignorant and antisocial

[@MakaylaWilliams-y3c]

In the U.K they keep asking you guys where are you from? Or where are you REALLY from? In a sense reminding you that you are not them and never will be. In America they know where we are from and tell us to go back. Both are racism

[@QuentelHill-e7d]

​@@alkahinat4558comments like this is why we don't fuc with england black people just ignorant

[@SsLoage]

​@@alkahinat4558wait what you mean by original culture?

[@Destinnies]

People keep overanalyzing celebrities or public figures' demeanor. You move your FINGER an extra inch, suddenly you're a HORRIBLE person😂🤦🏽‍♀️

[@confused_screaming124]

It fR wasn’t a big deal imo, that award looks heavy 😭

[@BrendaNyirenda-ow1bk]

Someone said the award weights like 7lb (3.1KG)

[@rituvaradarajan8056]

@@BrendaNyirenda-ow1bkTyla has skinny wrist it was heavy for her. People need to leave her alone.

[@BrendaNyirenda-ow1bk]

I didn't mean that comment I made in offence though, I was just telling the weight of it

[@BrendaNyirenda-ow1bk]

And personally, I don't have an issue with her, people are just overreacting

[@jessycaone4276]

My people still don’t even know the difference between cornrows and braids so I wasn’t surprised that they thought every African country does afro beat music 😂

[@michalovesanime]

I mean... Nothing gave mean. I will admit she triggers me, but thats a me problem. I just get tired, cuz ofcourse someone who looks like her would be the first female African global superstar, representing blackness, just how mixed women also represent all us black women often in the West. Happy for her ,she seems like a nice girl and shes very talented.

[@indigoskies5434]

And that’s valid yk it feels like we’re being erased

[@dottydelrey4736]

you articulated exactly how so many of us dark skinned african girls feel… but we can’t say anything without people saying we’re “jealous” but she is amazing and it it just an insecurity a lot of us have :/

[@jeralinsunflower7300]

@@dottydelrey4736I hear you and I see you. And I know y’all are not jealous. Y’all are beautiful and talented as well. ❤️❤️❤️

[@oromtitiwbo5078]

The way she looks is not far off from how Indigenous South African Khoisan people look. They are naturally her skin tone. Unless Blk South Africans feel erased by coloureds, other Africans do not feel any way because we are so far removed from another countries culture/tribe/race dynamics. Africa as a continent is incredibly diverse and I don’t think people from Nigeria, Morocco, Sudan, Ethiopia, Tanzania feel like she’s erasing them because she’s not representing us. She’s representing her country South Africa. Because African diaspora in America/South Americas/Carribean Islands descend from West and Central Africa they tend to think that is the default “African phenotype”, when they really all came from one area. Africa is very diverse in appearance, culture, history and most Africans are proud of that. The erasure of AA features is an internal issue and definitely very real, but I feel like it’s being projected onto Africans.

[@kymmikmarie]

I just love how emotionally intelligent this comment is and how it sums up a lot of the reasons why people have a problem with her

[@musicbytoffie]

The internet is just lame and jobless Making a fuss about everything Tyla didn't do anything wrong It's crazy how the important thing she said during her actual speech was ignored The internet just fuels cyberbullying on such a massive scale

[@Breonaleonard]

100% there’s an attempted hate train going on birthed by jealousy. Tyla is literally not doing anything wrong! She is BEAUTIFUL and very talented. I really think she’s hated on because of her mixed heritage and the fact that she didn’t want to call herself black (which she is NOT). Can’t wait for her next album♥️

[@hotties3v3n]

Lol! I literally said this almost in the exact way before seeing your comment! Facts!

[@vim2339]

I feel so bad for Tyla because is the same black woman that are dragging her ! Tyla is the sweetest person ever and Tyla wasn’t even asking Halle to hold the award she ask lil nas She even used the word please, thanks you and sorry

[@crystalmackle5829]

People will get over it in a week.

[@emilyonizuka4698]

I don't understand hating someone for being confident? I thought we wanted women (and people in general) to be confident?

[@prairieflower7967]

When she said she expected Drake to DM her. I did think she was cocky.

[@patrizziad3446]

She is.

[@briannalaberge]

she was not giving “I’m so small and petite”or any diva attitude or entitlement vibes at all, people want to see a beautiful woman fail

[@rangles1050]

I say this as someone with a medical condition that actually affects their muscle strength- if you have trouble holding up a 15 pound award, you need to start working out. There's no excuse that an adult woman, unless she has a medical condition, shouldn't be able to hold 15 pounds for a 3 minute speech

[@rituvaradarajan8056]

⁠that is extreamly rude, some people have trouble living things. I am Tyla shape and size and I work out and do muscle living. My wrist are small like hers and I still have trouble lifting things like groceries. People that dont have that specific bone structure were there body is skinnier shouldn’t comment on what other people can and can’t do. It is not pick me. The projection is really weird.

[@genaemccall4608]

@@rangles1050the award weighs like 7 pounds not 15

[@rituvaradarajan8056]

@@genaemccall4608the award is made out of metal fully. Multiple celebrities like Olivia Rodrigo almost dropped it. This is not something to drag her for. Leave Tyla alone

[@genaemccall4608]

@@rituvaradarajan8056 you act like I’m harassing her, I just said how much it weighs, never anything about tyla

[@FaithAnswered]

Y’all don’t know a thing about South Africans. That girl ain’t mean she coloured! South Africans in general, the same as Nigerians, we are a different breed. She needs that energy for Hollyweird, I send her prayers, everyone that steps into America needs it ❤️

[@DominiqueNicole144]

I get what you mean, same way your comment can be taken as offensive towards Americans, but I get it that it's just your culture...

[@FaithAnswered]

@@DominiqueNicole144 America doesn’t even know half of the wicked things happening under their noses, nor do most care. I said what I said ❤️

[@DominiqueNicole144]

@@FaithAnswered You can say what you said all day, but you're rude and someone who's a lot less "nice" than myself may hurt your feelings for speaking out of turn and ignorantly😉

[@FaithAnswered]

@@DominiqueNicole144 I’d love to see them try ❤️✝️

[@crispri3919]

@@FaithAnswered South africans are coonish and rude af and love to throw stones and hide their hands. The entitled white people of Africa which is why they feel like this random high yella heifer is immune from any criticism.

[@ryanevansdeservedbetter560]

this award situation honestly reminds me of how Kpop stans act!!! Just over doing it to hate someone. Like it’s really not that serious that she asked someone to hold a award for her, also when she said it was heavy she most definitely was just shocked by it be more dense than she expected !!

[@cranburrey]

0:57 Now why is he mad over her facing the camera??

[@RikinaSamira]

Y'all decided to take that small interaction and exclude the fact she said please sorry and thank you ???? . She didn't just throw the award and say hold it she wasn't even demanding. What do you want her to do lick the floor to please everyone. Shrink herself just to make everyone else feel better No! She proud, confident,chill , beautiful and radiant she should keep shinning and not let anyone pick a bone against her . Why find such small details to create problems analyzing small things like detectives. Honestly y'all could beat the police force cuz YOH 😭💀

[@lydiaafra4512]

Fr i saw a whole video of an African American woman hating on her and her comment section was sick

[@missdiorfairy]

its always a problem when a person of color is anything but sweet and shy and insecure.

[@oberyncarzer5620]

As a South African, I’m gonna ride for her 😩

[@ajachae]

I like Tyla , Water was amazing and she has another song that's trendy she's young and has time to really stamp an impression. I truly feel like Tems has been killing it as far as charting views on youtube being featured on popular songs and she hasnt gotten the recognition that she deserves award wise I want to see Tems win her albums have been beautiful works of art and i dont want to call colorism but she literally had more than one smash hit and it hasnt been the same push for her as Tyla.

[@JessAnonymous]

I love Tyla idc i love how authentic she is. Like a big sister you'd actually want. She radiates pure princess energy

[@karissaslife6950]

Mfs calling her a pick me as if her arms arent tiny… it was literally too heavy

[@N_trx]

I feel like a lot of Americans are trying to make her fit into this mean light skin girl trope. I get that the industry is heavily heavily colourist amongst other things and Tyla benefits from that. Howeverrr, most of the character assassinations attempts have been based on silly things and don’t hold weight. Americans need to understand that race is a social construct and manifests differently in different places. African American black history is not the black history for all black folks/POC. I’m not a Tyla fan but people are dragging it!

[@Zeeeeeeeestv]

I think everyone started to turn on her when she won a Grammy. Everyone started calling her an industry plant and I’m just here wondering how that is her faullttt?

[@elidiklaire4287]

0:20 I agree with this tiktok. I love how confident Tyla is. I don't believe she's malicious in any way. But she did kind of radiate "I'm so small 👉🏽👈🏽 energy. She did politely ask, but still. It just seems like everyone around her is a bellhop who is expected to work for her. From her being carried up the stairs at the met gala to this moment at the VMA's. Like she IMMEDIATELY turned around with the award as if she expected someone on standby to just hold it for her. So you can tell she's just used to that. Again: I think Tyla is beautiful, wicked talented, and she seems pretty genuine. But it's about impact over intent. Good intentions, yes. Bad delivery/the way it came off, yes. It just didn't come off right. Like I've watched PLENTY award shows. I've NEVER seen a single celebrity be like, "Omg, my award is just sooooo heavy, can someone please hold it for me?" It just felt weird.

[@Emilia-seakemp]

I've never seen her be anything but a sweetheart. Jealousy really is a bitch.

[@beulsplus27]

Being colourd has nothing to do with the colour of your skin. You get colourd people with different skin tones varying from dark to light. It's about your heritage and multi- racial ancestry. Tyla did an ancestry test because of all the questions around her raceial background. In South Africa, race is classified differently due to our history of colonialism and apartheid. This is a term used by other racial groups in South Africa to refer to mixed race South Africans, and it's a term we colourd people have accepted and owned for decades. Colourd people don't see themselves as better or less then anyone else. We see ourselves as people of equal stranding with other racial groups, and we most definitely do not deny our Africaness or black heritage.

[@HambleyProductions-rv5ym]

Yeah Yeah....The show must go on🎉Congretulations Tyla...Show them what South Africa has...we are Free Spirits- Our great Nelson Mandela fought for our freedom 😊

[@prodsonicreations]

9:56 THE RIHANNA IMPRESSION LMAOOO 👏🏾 😂

[@marias.wainwright3481]

Is it just me or stan culture has been more toxic than ever lately ? People are turning on mainstream artists so easily at the moment its insane. It really reflects how grim everyones mental health is tbh and how the world events are turning us bitter