Tyla’s Response to LE SSERAFIM “Smart”?

[@randomcomments2454]

I find it so fucking funny that the artist herself had to come out and say that she was at the front line of the battlefield and getting so much FEARNOT attention 💀 like, the way she nonchalantly responded to this is more chill and cool than delulu kpop fans will ever be 😭

[@Cecil1213]

Yeah, like I don’t understand nowadays fans always do this thing where they think a song from a genre. No song can ever sound like it or even slightly similar.

[@TenderNoodle]

The copying accusations in kpop is soooo out of hand. When you have only a couple dozen songwriters/producers and companies in the same industry there’s going to be trends and similarities and that’s okay. I wish people would just chill out abt a lot of stuff in kpop honestly. It’s just people dancing and singing💀

[@pinklover4860]

I hope that everyone acts like this when other artists from other agencies do the same thing. No double standard should be allowed for a case like this.

[@Anushka_Bhattacharjee]

​@pinklover4860 That wont happen when blackpink or Babymonster does it but its okay with other groups to do it (THE DOUBLE STANDARDS) anyways still lets hope people have finally come to their senses and will also react similarly to any other group

[@kpopscenario1406]

Ikrrrr

[@navi_chou]

Kpopies when found songs under the same genre: omg so similar💀

[@24O325]

Yep especially since the dance is exactly the same just with the moves in a different order

[@TenderNoodle]

@@24O325 there the same because they are dirt common moves in South African dance, which is also often paired the genre water and smart are made in. Tyla doesn’t own those dance moves and would probably be offended by the insinuation she does. People can be inspired by other songs

[@nicoleloss7987]

The artists herself said it's not the same

[@kpopstannafan]

well... maybe listen to water, calm down, and woman. you'll get what they meant

[@Bunnybunny5656]

@@24O325it’s an Afro beat song with African dance moves. Shocking omg the world is breaking at this revelation!

[@thecabbagemaster.]

breaking news! netizens discover genres

[@Baebyii]

😂😂

[@ShreyaNarain]

😂😂 frr

[@himaririku9254]

STRAY KIDS THE KING OF KPOP,,,

[@soonidoongidori143]

@riku9254 bro what- out of nowhere-( i realized that this dude is either a bot.. or a very bored unemployed person coz they do this in every comment so.. please don't hate the fandoms.. he/she probably wants fandom wars)

[@armoaeongene5163]

​@@soonidoongidori143don't mind him. He is everywhere, l don't know why but he does it. I think he is mentally unstable😭

[@cherr_berr]

they would die if they ever heard all the songs under reggaeton or bachata

[@cupidream9702]

plsssss i’m latina but frrrr a lot of them are superrrrr similar but i’m still going to listen every time😭😭😭

[@cherr_berr]

@@cupidream9702 ofc!! the songs are really catchy and i dont even think about the similarities while listening to em 😭 i will forever be hooked on slowed down bachata songs

[@kpopscenario1406]

Frrr

[@himaririku9254]

STRAY KIDS THE KING OF KPOP,,,,

[@Your_stxr]

FRRR im literally Latina but ngl those reggaeton beats make the songs more hype.

[@izwillow]

Two songs from the same genre sound similar? That's crazy😱

[@himaririku9254]

STRAY KIDS THE KING OF KPOP,,,

[@heliosinki]

Hahaha😂😂😂 sarcasmmm

[@keyonabryant3000]

It’s like something that’s never happened before!!!??😮😮😮😨😨😨

[@yevgenyalekhinelargo1662]

What genre is that anyway? I'm thinking of reggaeton but it's kinda specific for a genre

[@FirstNose]

​@@yevgenyalekhinelargo1662 It's not reggaeton, that sounds like an African rhythm

[@kateemma22]

Tyla is so cool and I am gonna NEED that collab to happen.

[@elfy2006]

OMG just imagine a collab (delulu is the solulu)

[@Dreamlight_editxs]

​@@elfy2006yesss may your delulu come trululu

[@rem_xo]

She shaded lesserafim she only said the tweet shown in this video bc there was so many Stans saying sh*t about lesserafim

[@Am_._]

@@rem_xoshe said love to all girls

[@rem_xo]

@@Am_._ no the tweet before that she posted a gif of pinpantheres looking around just like the tweet in the video. A lot of Stans were going crazy that’s why she said “Why is my phone blowing up 💀” No weird vibes, always love to all girls”

[@chevaladavenport3378]

It's sad when the Artists themselves have to tell fans to chill out! Shout out to Tyla for being a real one

[@mhlaclase178]

😊❤

[@islamicworld18648]

Tyla is too sweet bro

[@lilpoppo]

I think what probably happened was that their producer saw how huge 'Water' was and decided to make them a song in the same genre

[@nontzmkhize8735]

That's exactly it! And they are entitled and free to do so. But get actual producers from that genre to produce it. Seeing as it is becoming a mainstream genre and replication of it is inevitable but to get producers who know the genre is best. You wouldn't get a Hip Hop producer like Swizz Beatz or Timbaland to produce Rock. So why get K-pop producers who don't know the genre do an Amapiano inspired song?

[@lordbuhcheeks]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@nontzmkhize8735I get that and it’s a fair point. But why are we pigeonholing producers to a certain genre? Producers should always be evolving. If they wanna experiment with new genres, we should encourage it. People will complain that everything sounds the same. And when producers change it up, they’re mad bc they didn’t get other people (who are more experienced) involved. It shouldn’t matter. What should matter is the end result and the end result for Smart is really good.

[@nontzmkhize8735]

@@lordbuhcheeks I am not against producers evolving,what I don't like is producers who haven't done their due diligence about the genre or the culture behind it, copying the genre because it's viral instead of learning from producers from that culture and doing the music well and crediting the genre. Not a single Amapiano producer was used and the motto of Amapiano is "Amapiano to the world" because the producers are open to collaborating with international producers to expand the genre. Diplo for example has worked with Major League DJs several times. LEARNING how Amapiano is done and collaborating with Amapiano producers like DJ Maphorisa instead of riding the Amapiano wave and making his own interpretation of the genre without crediting the source. Giving credit is something K-pop producers,dancers and idols struggle to do. Whether that is on a Tik Tok video,a music video concept or choreo. That is the main issue. You don't see Amapiano DJs rushing to do Korean trot. But if they were to do so,they would use trot producers. The same way some West African artists get the likes of Musa Keys (who are Amapiano musicians) to collaborate with them when they create Amapiano music because they know that they can't do it like Amapiano producers can. Hybe has failed to do this. Because I think at the end of the day,they don't care about the genre or the culture. They just care about numbers and because Water went viral,they thought,oh an easy way to make numbers.And on top of that, K-pop stans have the gall to discredit Tyla and say she didn't come up with that sound or those moves,but she's from the cou try that originated both? And made Bacardi dance go viral? Her influence on the genres should not be erased. It's disingenuous. You're erasing a South African doing South African things just to elevate Koreans? It's weird.

[@nontzmkhize8735]

@@lordbuhcheeks It's okay. It's just not memorable and the log drum isn't giving what it should. But it's not bad. It's just not great.

[@lordbuhcheeks]

@@nontzmkhize8735 they don’t need to do anything. If they wanna make a song bc another went viral, then by all means. The sound trending alone brings the culture some attention. K-pop does have a bad history with crediting. But for this one, simply making a song of a genre bc it went viral is just smart. If people don’t like it, they don’t have to listen to it. If they like it, then they do. I see Amapiano being made, I’m happy regardless. Love to see it thrive

[@darling_multistan]

We love a delulu girlie 😍 also, yeah people are pretty silly for thinking that. they’re the same genre. they’re gonna sound similar. 😭

[@urhypeboy]

People rly think only one song is allowed to sound like this 💀

[@darling_multistan]

@@urhypeboy fr 😭

[@pinklover4860]

I hope that everyone acts like this when other artists from other agencies do the same thing. No double standard should be allowed for a case like this.

[@clino137]

​@@pinklover4860yyea

[@himaririku9254]

STRAY KIDS THE KING OF KPOP,,,

[@user-mq7kc5gx7s]

The level of confidence at this age wow

[@CaPeash7]

Smarter ❌️ Easy✔️

[@beomtori_]

i guess the fans didn’t get the memo and weren’t SMART bc accusing lesserafim of copying songs in the same genre was goofy

[@jenniferhenriquez2474]

not all fans

[@beomtori_]

@@jenniferhenriquez2474 omg you get the gist of it 💀

[@mhlaclase178]

Fabulous ❤😂

[@Crocoroar]

Since when is it fans that accuse their favorite group of copying? Pretty sure its people getting offended on behalf of other people (without their permission) that start this kind of drama. And I fucking loathe those people.

[@beomtori_]

@@Crocoroar real

[@bhardwajp1488]

Tyla is a Queen. Period.

[@aimeeclarkson-williams3706]

Fr

[@AnuKumari-py8ho]

But both songs are beautiful ❤

[@YasmimPadilhadeOliveira]

Já aguardando a parte dois😊😊

[@jadewest6374]

This isn’t a case of copying but this does prove the point that K-pop is not always Korean music it’s just music in Korea. Which doesn’t take away anything because I’ll still jam out but K-pop takes a lot of inspiration from other cultures

[@mhlaclase178]

Awesome 😎❤

[@tonystonem9614]

This is a case of copying tho pretty much copied beat, flow and dance even 😭 lets not be delusional here it's very clear they were heavily inspired by Tylas famous song

[@accessgenerations]

⁠​⁠@@tonystonem9614you when find you out the genre it’s in: 😱😱😱

[@jadewest6374]

@@tonystonem9614 Im not sayin they aren’t but a lot of songs sound like that because of that style of South African Instrumentals and music. If that was the case then every Ampiano song would be copying her or she would be copying ampiano songs before her. The whole point of my post is to say that K-pop is heavily inspired by mostly black music and it’s about time people realize that K-pop is not all that original

[@jadewest6374]

@@tonystonem9614 there is a thin line between copying and inspired but just because the song sounds the same doesn’t mean it’s copying it’s just about time other people realize K-pop is not Korean music

[@kpoplistener1111]

I think people when mostly upset about the whole keep K-pop Korean comments under the black models post only for them to release a song using an African sound and suddenly the keep K-pop Korean girlies are nowhere to be seen

[@dubyokafor898]

THIS❤❤

[@Price_with_a_b]

I get that - same with le sserafim’s CA in their last comeback 😭 they were real quiet then

[@Thetenacityofkassidy]

@@Price_with_a_bwait what do u mean by CA is it cultural appropriation or appreciation also if it was appropriation what was the appropriation srry i don’t keep up with le sserafim

[@Sogeking995]

What do those things have to do with each other? Lesserafim didn’t make those comments. Hybe didn’t make those comments.

[@Sogeking995]

@@Price_with_a_b There was no CA, making music in a different genre is not CA 🤦

[@stefft.6966]

Omg i wish they would collab! Need more afrobeats

[@WorldGamersClub143]

I personally think SMART by LE SSERAFIM sounds highly more similar to ART by Tyla.

[@asteria1227]

I honestly just find it ironic due to the fact their fandoms were the same people saying to “keep k-pop korean” but don't blink an eye when their favs release a song using similar astributes to the people they were just hating on.

[@ruthfischer7615]

nah... that were K-poppies not Fearnot. At the same time black kpoppies lashed out against Le Sserafim because they interpreted nonsense into their clothing. Both sides were wrong and racist - neither were Fearnots.

[@promisefavour4907]

​@@ruthfischer7615Fearnots are kpopfans and it was under a le serafim video that "keep kpop korean" was commented so yes it is fearnots

[@flipperful]

Exactly typical double standard

[@ruthfischer7615]

@@promisefavour4907 No, it is not. These are people trying to sabotage Le Sserafim. There is something you need to learn especially about K-pop: pretending to be a fan of someone to make them look bad is very common and it is getting even worse Asian Culture and Entertainment "Dirty PR & Marketing Tricks used to Destroy Jhope, Jungkook, Le Sserafim, & other Idols" Mean? You bet! Unfortunately still very common.

[@ikykwklk779]

@@ruthfischer7615it is actually fearnots who say that especially recently, as lesserafim posted an ad for a collab and they hired models, one of the models was black and the comments were saying “keep this monkey away from the group” and “keep K-pop Korean”

[@NekoMarietess]

Tbh I did not associate "Smart" with any song in particular. My thoughts during that song were, "Oh, it sounds like Latina dance music" and "I'd rather watch Latinas dance this thing. I want someone voluptuous not starving and stick-thin swaying their booty at me" 😂 Also, repeating Tyla's words, love to all the girls!

[@arianamiranda3660]

This comment section is bothering me. There seems to be a large misunderstanding as to what’s happening. All black fans did was point out that Smart was clearly inspired by Tyla’s water. (This is due not only to the genre itself, but the fact the outfits were similar, they did the same dance move she did, and they even changed their accent.) That’s it. No one is upset, nor are they claiming that it’s plagiarism. A lot of kpop fans don’t realize that kpop since its inception has been inspired by black culture, and so black kpop fans were simply making an observation that Water’s popularity is the newest inspiration. They’re also pointing out how silly these fans look when they’re being racist to that black model by saying "keep kpop korean", and here goes that same kpop group that they’re a fan of mimicking a black artist.

[@ilubyou13]

This needs to be pinned

[@COMPTONR]

God I hate everything about the kpop fandom. Imagine how outraged they’d be if someone made an American version of ditto lol

[@amandaa7708]

Omg thank you. Because people sound obtuse saying “well they’re the same genre”

[@nimjoon5333]

@@COMPTONRlmao i’m a k-pop fan myself and i’m telling you right now that they’ll cry if anyone makes anything similar to what their faves already made

[@sonaa1243]

Well said 🙌

[@cixren7287]

This video does not address the real issue, the racist le serrafim fans who were blatantly being racist in their comm3mt section when a black model was posted, not too long ago. They screamed keep K-pop Korean but now are promoting their new comeback which is heavily inspired by afro beats…. Like make it make sense.

[@Likelyfairy]

They never actually discuss the important parts or they don’t care to 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@skeel77730]

Are blacks really this fragile lol.

[@tabbiesworld9286]

K-pop and k r&b is heavily influenced by black culture. Just package through Asian faces because it's easier for Caucasian and other lighter shades of people to listen to them and fall for the artist. A black group back in the day could be singing the same damn songs and dancing but would have never ever gotten the world wide appeal and attention K-pop artist are getting for doing the same thing they did.

[@jenniferhenriquez2474]

not all of their fans are racist

[@COMPTONR]

@@tabbiesworld9286tbh kpop is like basic ass dance moves they copy from hip hop/ R&B Lots of simple lyrics so the artists can actually put them together with ease. Small words. Baby rhymes.

[@jojoEben2120]

Amapiano in your area 🔥

[@Ruth-qw3rf]

Tyla and Lisa collab coming up !!!!!

[@Angelssiq]

Those racist fearnots are SHAKING…

[@user-lg1dw1cy1c]

they not even fearnot. ijbol ur blind if u think fearnot would say kpop need to be korean.when they have foreign members and a model in past used bfore but no one complain.ur just blind hating too. 💀

[@elfy2006]

A true fearnot can't be racist ;) but I remember the hate that stunning black model got :(

[@user-sx2hv4iq1w]

​​@@elfy2006that was from kpop stan specifically twt stan, i forgot but that person is another gg stan not fearnot so dw

[@aimansaari9408]

there is no fan who not support their idols lmao, those are not fearnot mostly their haters or general fan , thinking logic lol

[@mhlaclase178]

😂😊❤

[@ifallapart2000]

She just won her first Grammy. She not worried about none of this bs💀

[@mhlaclase178]

Awesome ❤

[@krishsingh9084]

I am in Tyla's side

[@Bbg346]

Tbh for me it sounds like a combo of Water by Tyla and Woman by Doja cat, especially when at that part of the lyrics "wanna be a winner" I keep singing "wanna be your woman" instead😂😂

[@meloyuma2729]

It is very similar like very you can hear it. Some parts even sounds the same

[@_alicsirp]

“Não é a gente que tá tirando esse redebut do c*zao não” 😂😂😂

[@user-yg2uy8bc8q]

I was actually thinking- torturing myself to recall what it sounded like. Like I was trying so hard to think which song it was- and the relief when you said it lol.

[@avaxlender9449]

It's so funny cuz afrobeat isn't only used by African artists or what netizens think it is. Just because it's not common in the kpop Industry doesn't mean it's not there.

[@mae_ri]

Literally tinnitus by txt incorporates afrobeat as well

[@_exsencefx]

it is only used by african and african american artists primarily kpop just loves to steal from black culture lol

[@zanetaabekhe8479]

Righttt?! Check out the playlist Kimchi and Jollof (Spotify and Apple Music) for more kpop songs in the Afrobeats genre!

[@user-qt1bg8cd2e]

And also amapiano😊

[@amorelockster1023]

I just think it’s weird how people are now just hoping into the afrobeat wave. But that’s the music industry.

[@nt4ndozoey979]

Tyla is trying so hard not to get cancelled because of the media but if South Africans find out about this, it's going to be a bigger issues. If they don't know what black twitter is, they about to find out😭

[@nontzmkhize8735]

Babe! And South African Twitter💀It's Amapiano to the world but still give credit. I showed this to my colleagues and they said the dance was giving Bacardi.

[@nt4ndozoey979]

@@nontzmkhize8735 yeah but don't get into it too much, they are just empty tins making alot of noise.

[@Clara-xk3uv]

Yeah see that's what I dislike about this convo and this comment section, girl is OBVIOUSLY trying to not get cancelled, it's not like she's been an established artist for a decade so she pretty much HAS to say it's fine so she doesn't get in trouble with the mob, yet people are using this as an argument to say "see, even the artist herself is fine with it." But come on this song sounds like water + woman and anyone who says the opposite is delusional. And if there was any doubt left as to what they were trying to do, that blaccent is a straight up crime, I actually gasped

[@nontzmkhize8735]

@@Clara-xk3uv There is even a part where they say something like "wanna be a winner" and it sounds a little like the same rhythm as "let me be your woman".

[@Clara-xk3uv]

@@nontzmkhize8735 yeah that was my first thought as well. Chorus is a double slap, first you get that "smatah baby smatah" and then it's woman with a twist for plausible deniability

[@user-ew8ht5eu3z]

That's not Easy that's Smart 😂😂😂

[@drinks_menu]

I’m convinced kpop fans just don’t know anything about music

[@refilwejas9021]

South Africans don't really do fan wars, if a song sounds similar to another its fine. It's not that deep. I knew Tyla wouldn't care

[@Am_._]

Exactly!

[@PearlieCake]

For real we don't really care but are happy that ppl recognize our music

[@balafama2120]

@@PearlieCake They recognize your music and profit off your talents/creativity but would never collab with a South African,use south African music experts in helping them AND STILL HATE ON BLACK people. They will not invite Africans to concerts or pay to watch their videos.Was there any credit given to south Africa or Amapiano for the song? nope. Without black fans getting upset they would never say they copied it from Afrobeats or give credit .Their fans will praise them saying they are so talented and say they don't want black people involved in kpop,while their faves copy black people and make money off your talents. Trust an African to never see when someone is plucking out your eyes, they are usually very happy to have their eyes plucked out,in fact they will thank those who pluck out their eyes.continue not to care while they steal your intellectual property and crowd you out of the market.

[@PearlieCake]

@@balafama2120 damn I'm glad I don't view things like you do 😥

[@balafama2120]

@@PearlieCake So content to carry last and be exploited. This is why Africa is always exploited and underdeveloped .I am advocating for AFrican artists while you are content to just let people steal your intellectual property. I pray your Your eyes will open up someday.

[@tobennaokoli4450]

Stans: “all Kpop is the same, we want something different” Idols: *do something different* Stans: “No! You can’t do this. Why don’t you stick to Korea? Why are you doing different things?” Me: 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Communistkittens]

Copying work doesn’t make them different

[@tobennaokoli4450]

@@Communistkittens who did they copy?

[@someoneelseishere5964]

This is why I can't stand it when people complain "XYZ Company is playing it safe, I wish they would take more risks" then the moment that company takes a risk people complain again.

[@iammelll]

@@someoneelseishere5964ITZY is the PRIME example for this

[@delena-nl4zg]

are you dumb tyla doesnt own this gender of music stop being dumb​@@Communistkittens

[@JLo-ms5gg]

I not once thought they sounded the same… like what? They’re both amazing tho. Especially Tyla. QUEEN!

[@tbszach]

“chain smoking a malboro red in a shein crop top in tallahassee florida” this is poetry

[@seungminisamaterialgirl1420]

As a South African all amapiano low-key sounds the same

[@KMS-ws7rf]

As a South African, I think it depends on the amapiano. I mean of course they’re going to sound similar because they are under the same genre but the songs trending(especially on TikTok) sound different from ‘private school’ piano. So it’s definitely not all but some.

[@seungminisamaterialgirl1420]

@@KMS-ws7rf yes that’s why I said low-key instead of definitely

[@tarielmontez9026]

Ong 😭 just any type of Afro beats as well are similar with it or sort of like Latin music how they have the same beat to it

[@seungminisamaterialgirl1420]

@@tarielmontez9026 well Afro beat is WAYY more versatile than amapiano

[@LuckyArcticBirds-te4vm]

i think its more of afrobeats than amapiano i think they are saying that because they are from africa@@KMS-ws7rf

[@ananyasingh9919]

I feel like smart sounds like calm down

[@ikykwklk779]

It doesn’t at all they’re just both Afro beat songs😭 u should explore more of the genre tho that’s just the general sound of it

[@Sleepys-tz2in]

Made the video 108 k likes❤

[@WallFlower08]

It does sound a like tho. Especially the smart/smarter part

[@SG-et6mi]

I think a lot of people were saying that it’s kinda obvious that Hybe was influenced by Tyla’s success with Water not that the song sounds exactly the same. I know that there were people saying it sounds the same but I think the whole situation started with people saying the former.

[@nicoleloss7987]

But they didn't say anything when txt did afro beats

[@SG-et6mi]

@@nicoleloss7987 I don’t know what TXT has to do with my comment lol. I was just explaining how I think this whole situation started. But in response to what you’re saying, TXT actually had black artists behind the making of their song. Le sserafim didn’t, which is why their song might sound generic to some people and TXT’s might sound more authentic to others.

[@jdeanwalsh]

afrobeat and latin have been the biggest global genres for years at this point.

[@SG-et6mi]

@@jdeanwalsh Again Im just explaining how I think the “controversy” started. However, Tyla’s success with Water did help to repopularize the genre in mainstream media. Edit: As already mentioned in the comments below, more specifically the genre is Amapiano :).

[@nontzmkhize8735]

@@SG-et6mi you hit the nail right on the head!

[@Royalty05]

They copied her song not the genre. Amapiano doesn’t sound the same. Tyla gained a lot of popularity thanks to water so it’s normal for people to want to be her or copy her. K-pop is the copy cat genre it’s always been. If Rock music became popular tomorrow the girls would drop a rock concept album🤷‍♀️ but Afro music can’t be easily replicated because the vibe and dance and energy is something we’re born with it’s almost spiritual. Even African American artists are making Afro beats and amapiano but only Africans are taking the Grammys and topping the charts.

[@BrokenNoah]

Stayed for the dancing

[@carmelnopable3891]

It's like calm down beat

[@jaredtorres1987]

❤it's similar not same dont be putting hate on both artist or all artist. Just love and support

[@nontzmkhize8735]

"Tyla didn't invent this","Tyla didn't popularize this" and "This sound has existed for ages", "Tyla's not the first person to..." When I see comments like this,I know that whoever is saying this thinks Africa is a country😂That all music from Africa is Afrobeats 😂That Amapiano and Bacardi is the same thing😂And that Amapiano and Afrobeats are the same thing😂Twerking is Bacardi😂💀. So basically uncultured. All of these things,friends,are not the same. K-pop fans need to realise that there are actual people and cultures attached to dance styles, music genres etc. And in you trying to defend your faves by saying that people from the countries of origin of the genres of the music/dance that your faves are COPYING weren't the pioneers of that musical genre or style is cultural erasure. Tyla isn't the pioneer of Amapiano or Bacardi dance(or music)and she never claimed to be. She did however tell you that her genre is Pop-piano which a fusion of a genre of music called AMAPIANO(from her,country South Africa: SPOILER - She is South African and knows more about South African genre than the average K-pop fan does). She even told you all that the dance move in "Water" is called Bacardi and not twerking so that you didn't run with the idea of twerking and therefore erase Bacardi culture. YOU have to do your own due diligence. And while doing that,do not attack someone for doing a genre that is from their own culture and saying "she didn't come up with it" , "it's been around for ages." Obviously she didn't come up with it,but it's HER CULTURE. She can do it and use it however dhe wants. And she has done well to popularize Bacardi dance and Amapiano music globally. Which is what Amapiano DJs have always wanted. HOWEVER,they want collaboration and not imitation. Which is why Amapiano DJs and producers work with international DJs like your Diplos and with artists like Davido. Because they need to be involved in the genre of thrir country. What K-pop fails to do is collaborate with African producers when copying African sounds which is why it'll never hit the same way. The same way as when other African countries also produce Amapiano without South African producers. So the toxic stans saying that it should not matter that there was no African in the production of "Smart" because Tyla didn't have any South African producers. Are you Okay? Tyla is South African. And she has been doing Pop infused with Amapiano since her first single "Getting Late" in 2020. She is the South African in the studio😂Also,a Ghanaian producer was present so you are also misinformed.

[@user-lg1dw1cy1c]

im not reading this shit

[@nontzmkhize8735]

@@user-lg1dw1cy1c ok user lg1dw,and that is how you remain ✨ uncultured ✨. Mwah.

[@nt4ndozoey979]

​@@user-lg1dw1cy1c oh shit you thought you ate but what you really did is become a piece of 💩

[@BrownieMiyamoto]

@@user-lg1dw1cy1cStay ignorant then🤡

[@tonystonem9614]

Factssss they love to pretend that nothing black ppl made is original and K-pop is completely different and uninspired from anything that exist today. Le sserafins fans are very racist judging from that Insta post and now they're trying to go it was 100% not inspired from Tylas water

[@johnnyblaze1098]

People are REACHIN.

[@sofiak8661]

"it's been everything but easy" was the correct way to say it lol

[@carollitchfield6649]

No I think the similarity and the accusation is because amapiano can have different patterns, all amapiano songs don't sound alike and with Tyla's song it's like a hybrid of amapiano and r&b so if you're copying that it's very clear to the ear. I guess that's where the criticism is or accusation is based from

[@nontzmkhize8735]

THIS‼️‼️‼️ They think we're saying that they copied Tyla because of the genre when Tyla's genre is Amapiano fused with pop/R&B and not core Amapiano. So they didn't copy Amapiano. They copied Pop-Piano,which is "Water". Plus the Bacardi in the performance.

[@Am_._]

Exactly! Viral amapiano songs would be Mnike or Kunkra. Water sounds different to other amapiano songs. Edit: I don’t think it’s copying tho, just sounds like amapiano beats being introduced into kpop

[@rachaelagyemang1265]

​@@Am_._ But that my problem Amapaino would have never been introduced to k-pop if it was not for WATER!!

[@Am_._]

@@rachaelagyemang1265 and there’s no problem with that

[@meteuteu]

I remember Lee Hyori case when she went hiatus for a loooooongggg time because plagiarism... It's her produce fault but she got the hate....

[@nicoleloss7987]

People need to learn the meaning of the word. Because any artist can do any style of music they want

[@tarayFX]

Lisa ans tyla are collaborating ❤

[@madiea8074]

tyla is soo beautiful

[@Skeume]

Nah they def did amapiano because water went viral but it’s not the same song at all My problem is them trying to mimick an African accent. Why tf were they saying weenah and smahtah. Afro beat song doesn’t mean you can pretend to speak like an African :/

[@texasktea]

Oof didn't hear that

[@tobennaokoli4450]

I personally liked it. I feel like it added to the vibe as a whole. Just doing it isn’t necessarily mocking.

[@nicoleloss7987]

The are not mocking. How would you like them to say the words.

[@platiniuamsp1858]

It’s weird yes, why it’s like me prononcing english word in a korean accent when i’m french it doesn’t makes sense 😭

[@texasktea]

@@nicoleloss7987 with a Korean accent maybe.

[@hitoshi_shinsolove_cats3828]

Nah, they sound similar because they are within the same genre. We can even include "Woman" by Doja Cat in the conversation, the 'wanna be a winner' part reminds me of 'Let me be your woman' Both are bops tho!

[@patra0kelo]

Doja is part South African lol she’ll always pay homage

[@akosuatoujourshanbon8086]

Lol you cant use Doja as an example here cos her parent is actually African 😅

[@user-dr7mz6pc2h]

One thing that le sserafim has proved is that they ARE fearless, meaning they are not afraid of criticism and fake assumptions

[@minoreox0397]

Tyla is a sweetheart so yeah it might be related who knows 😭

[@_exsencefx]

black people are the creators of kpop atp

[@urhypeboy]

No

[@_exsencefx]

@@urhypeboy yeah new jeans use jersey club and baltimore club music black genres luv

[@Skeume]

Black peoples are the creators of hybe and yg* Inspo for sm and jyp too but atleast they try their own things sometimes

[@thepreciousperspective]

​@@urhypeboylol. Look up the inception of kpop in your free time.

[@nicoleloss7987]

Kpop is a mix of all music genre.

[@redrubynini1996]

Tyla is so girls girl !! love her 💗

[@Am_._]

Yes!!

[@crisxuu_1]

The day kpopers find out about genres it’s gonna be CRAZYYYY

[@HeLlO__J]

Fr

[@diinosaurr_]

i feel like smart is the kpop version of water, and i love it regardless because they're both African themed✨

[@tedeibeakawaii]

That genre of music orignated from the country I live in; South Africa. Referencing where a song's genre came from is appreciated when having these conversations. Especially when inspiration is taken from African art. Hardcore Kpop stans need to relax.

[@user-up8du3et9b]

Exactly 💯 People have no idea how the entertainment industry works. People are quick to judge Kpop but never called American artists for sampling songs from other cultures

[@user-up8du3et9b]

I'm South African too. I have no problem with seeing other people appreciate our culture and music. I see it as a sign of appreciation not appropriation. It's mostly Americana who will see it as appropriation. It's fine as long as they don't steal our culture or mock it

[@user-up8du3et9b]

People need realise that within the music industry artists inspire each other all the. Music is for everyone. Music is a form of. Just like how fashion designers and painters inspire each other musicians do the same. Sampling is common in the music industry. Even American artists sample Arab or Asian traditional instruments in their songs but no one complains about that but when it comes to Kpop everyone has an opinion. People need to realise that every music genre was inspired by another genre. Just like how Kpop was inspired by R&B, Reggaeton,Latin pop,rap,hip hop and EDM music. Pop music is a versatile genre that can be blended into any genre or style if done correctly. Even BTS used African inspired elements in their music especially during their song IDOL. BTS always gives credit to the artists they take inspiration from. There are many interviews which speak about this.

[@ernestogastelum9123]

seems like people who purely listen to Kpop dont know anything about music. the majority of music has songs that sample other songs. thats a very common thing in the music industry.

[@bruh.1191]

i literally just ignore any take from people who only listen to kpop (non koreans specifically), it's just always hot garbage

[@tonystonem9614]

Why ppl denying it in the comments then

[@Micah_Coatha]

True

[@ernestogastelum9123]

@@tonystonem9614 like i said, people who only listen to Kpop are one dimensional.

[@zoey_2538]

Love to all girls 🥹🥹 love you tyla omg what a graceful and beautiful thing to say even if it's not about this 🩷🩷🩷

[@Sogum_siosan]

There is nothing more wholesome than girls supporting girls😭 it’s just so beautiful and heart warming

[@quirky11000]

It’s just the style because water and art sound identical to me too

[@FEARNOT_YUNJINAA]

Believe me, a group that has lots of haters will be more successful in the future, it indicates that the group has succeeded in attracting the attention of many people😂

[@beatenblackandblue610]

Yea after all haters are just like a secret fans or fans in denial. I mean theyre more attentive and dedicated from the real fans themself 🤣

[@Crocoroar]

​@beatenblackandblue610 Like I somehow became a Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, and Justin Bieber fan despite trying to find every reason to dislike their music. Good music is good music.

[@Brianna.xo.2010]

Never been this early but yes I agree it does have the same beat but it still sound good just it’s annoying when people say black culture/African culture has nothing to do with K-pop

[@nicoleloss7987]

Kpop is a mix of all different music.

[@nt4ndozoey979]

Yes, and the idols should just give us a tour.

[@Brianna.xo.2010]

@@nicoleloss7987sure but most is from black culture like the songs and dances

[@Brianna.xo.2010]

@@nicoleloss7987but I don’t think you read what I wrote correctly I didn’t say it’s all of K-pop just it has a part in K-pop but a lot is used in kpop

[@Am_._]

@@nt4ndozoey979LMFAO they never come here

[@Itsme_Athlene]

A collab sound to delulu 😂

[@Kristyn00]

I think the difference is culture. Tyla is doing music that is cultural to where she is and the other group is doing a genre because it’s popular right now. Like - let’s not beat around the bush. It’s annoying how people act like they don’t understand the issue K-pop has a history of copying off black culture. With no credit or recognition.

[@acetheist3932]

That's like saying all reggae songs are copies of each other. Just no.

[@TypicalToyReviews]

The more egregious part is Rema - Calm Down. The “smarter smarter” part sounds identical. That’s what stood out right away to me

[@tonystonem9614]

NAHHH this is even more crazy to me now 😭

[@suraya_]

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYINGGGG!!!! IT'S SO SIMILAR!

[@uwasecharlotte]

exactly the sameeee

[@CityColourr]

Nice way of reporting things without hyping up conflict or clickbaiting!

[@Angelssiq]

After Tinashe, Pinkpantheress and Janet Jackson, kpop got inspired of Tyla😭

[@dubyokafor898]

It’s obviously not plagiarism but to me at least, exploring the same genre as a recent Grammy winning song feels lazy on the part of the production team, it feels like they just wanted to follow the recent trend of Afro beats and ampiano 😅 it’s a bop but as someone who analyzes everything it comes of as disingenuous from producers (this is no hate to the girls❤)

[@yaya_97]

But that type of sound has existed and been popular before Water. Afo-beats while it has been getting popular(ish) lately has been around for years.

[@ellem8990]

This is exactly how I feel about it. Like them trying out amapiano is cool, but the execution feels lazy and it's likely because they were lazy with the inspiration too like you said. Le sserafim got a dominican (I think) producer to make antifragile, which makes sense since it's reggaeton and antifragile ended up being probably their best song so far. Now imagine what it could've been like if they actually got someone who knows amapiano to make a song for them. Hopefully I'm not making myself look dumb lol, since I didn't actually check who the producer was. It just sounds so lazy and it's a b side, so I figured it's likely they didn't hire someone who knows what they're doing in terms of amapiano. If it is someone qualified.. Well that's very unfortunate then lmao, because it still sounds lazy (not bad, for the record).

[@dubyokafor898]

@@yaya_97 of course but it’s mainstream popularity has made a resurface this year which is why it seems like low hanging fruit to explore that specific genre of music for le sserafims comeback

[@dubyokafor898]

@@ellem8990 absolutely like for other songs that use Afro beats or Amapiano beats or similar sounds (tinnitus by TXT is what I’m thinking of) it feels like there’s more effort because although it also takes inspiration it feels like TXT is still having their own style with new sound but for smarter it doesn’t (at least as a casual listener) feel like le serafims own style is in the song (in my mind if a song sounds like at least 2 other popular songs it comes of as lazy)

[@PichpoGUA]

Looking at the list of composers there's not a single African name, it seems like they hired a bunch of random people who had never done this type of music. It was always gonna sound like a pale copy because they didn't invite the originators at the table.

[@Z3YT1N]

“Easy” is actually “smart

[@danideafricn]

It's just the same genre 😂

[@runa_7022]

im sorry but it sounds nothing like water- like comparing ONE part is not the same as an entire song being an exact copy. cant wait for kpop stans to learn that genres exist- cant WAIT for them to find out all phonk songs feature cowbells and most country songs feature the exact same cord progressions-

[@Deadly_Potato]

It sounds A LOT like water are you fucking delusional!?!?! pahahaha!!!! Just listen to the fucking choruses, the WATER vs SMARTER, it's so obviously a money grab from hybe to ride off of water's success it's not even funny!! Just another kpop company blatantly stealing from black artists

[@karekare1261]

Omg music is always being recycled….omg y’all need to open a book and literally look up the history of music.❤

[@pommesucree1782]

It's amazing that some black people are willing to sell their culture and soul, just because they love kpop and Korea! I like kpop, but I wouldn't tolerate them using my country's culture without giving credit where is due! Some are really sold out people!

[@karekare1261]

@@pommesucree1782 I agree that cultural appropriation is wrong in so many ways but it is done every day. I think that accountability and like you said credit but everything day music is being spliced, posted, copied, and most producers use the same beats and sounds that they have used for other artists and just tweak it a little and call it something new because sadly it’s legal and used in music since the 60’s.

[@pommesucree1782]

@@karekare1261 I don't see Africans copying kpop anywhere?

[@karekare1261]

@@pommesucree1782 that’s not what I meant…I said cultural appropriation is every where

[@PISENG724]

Tyla's a sweetheart

[@charkenya]

We are always copied and hated at the same time

[@ademonunderjisoosbed]

It doesn’t sound the same. The genre is the same. Yall fans are ignorant.

[@phiapetre1400]

Yeah maybe not but it’s definitely not Korean music or influenced by anything Korean that’s western music in Korean. Which a lot of people claim to hate when it involves a westerner doing kpop

[@nontzmkhize8735]

The songs being similarly wasn't the issue for me,it was the stage performance. Le Sserafim even did Bacardi,the South African dance that Tyla popularized INTERNATIONALLY. (And if you say that Bacardi has been on a global stage in such a big way then you a. Don't know what Bacardi is. b. Have never even heard songs or seen Bacardi dances or c. You think twerking is Bacardi 💀) And it's knowing that not a single African was listed in the production of the song and they had to even use South African dance. It's giving cultural appropriation. You can explore different genres but at least have the decency to get people from those countries on board. K-pop is anti-black and don't even tour in Africa but want to use African genres now that they're trending.

[@tobennaokoli4450]

Tyla didn’t popularize Bacardi. It’s been around for ages now. Even in just recent history, Doja was doing it before anyone even knew about Tyla.

[@nicoleloss7987]

It is not the same. You do realize that most of lesserafim music they shake their a**. Its not new.

[@nontzmkhize8735]

@@nicoleloss7987 Shaking your butt is not Bacardi. Le Sserafim did an attempt at Bacardi. The style of their song along with the dance makes it look like they were influenced by Tyla. The song clearly has a log drum base and then they shake their butts in the same way as Bacardi when Tyla has clearly said that you don't dance Bacardi to Amapiano but she wanted to try it. And then here they do that move to a song with a log drum base? It's eerily similar to Tyla's Bacardi dance break at Hey Neighbour. Search for it here on KZbin and you'll see a fan cam of her and two professional Bacardi dancers. She's wearing an orange two piece and the Bacardi girls are wearing blue).b

[@nontzmkhize8735]

@@tobennaokoli4450 "Tyla didn't popularize Bacardi. It's been around for ages now." To say that Tyla didn't popularize Bacardi is very disingenuous because Bacardi is a very niche genre even in South Africa. It is not a mainstream genre in its country of origin,so how would it be popular internationally? If you are confused,let me explain further. The song "Water" is not the genre of music known as Bacardi. The song "Water" is a fusion of Pop and Amapiano similar to Tyla's debut single from 2020 called "Getting Late." The style of dance that is the signature move of "Water" is from the style of dance that is used in the Bacardi genre and it is not TWERKING. That is why Tyla made it clear to tell people to search for "Bacardi" dance and not to try and twerk during the challenge because it's different than twerking. And yes,Bacardi existed before Tyla but it was not "popular" as it's not a mainstream genre even in South Africa,where it's from. Bacardi songs do not even chart, that's how niche the genre is. The genre that is popular in South Africa and has been for the last decade now is Amapiano,which is where all of the Tik Tok trends come from. And without a doubt, Amapiano is more popular than Bacardi. You just have to look at the streams on Spotify and even on KZbin. You're saying that Tyla didn't popularize Bacardi and you are eight because the genre is not popular here in South Africa internationally. Name 2 Bacardi songs that have been a global hit. Or 2 that have even half the number of streams as "Water." Then you'll see how ridiculous this is. Tyla popularized the STYLE of dance called Bacardi internationally. Which is what even professional Bacardi dancers like Michelle have said. And why Tyla had a Bacardi remix of Water performed by the Bacardi dancers at Hey Neighbour. Bacardi and "Water" are not the same genre of music. Bacardi music is not popular at all. Amapiano is. Which is different. And Tyla said that Bacardi isn't danced to Amapiano and she is correct. Amapiano has its own style of dance which is also getting more and more popular internationally. Bacardi is not twerking. And Bacardi is a niche genre from a specific place in South Africa. So you'll have to explain how Bacardi has been popular internationally and maybe give some suggestions of Bacardi music that has charted and gone viral. Afao, Bacardi is not Amapiano. Also,Doja Cat never did Bacardi. She just twerked. So whenever people say stuff like "Tyla didn't popularize Bacardi", "it's been around for ages", "Doja Cat has been dancing like that for a while now" and "Le Sserafim has always Shaked their butts" I KNOW that they don't know what Bacardi is or where it's from or even what it sounds like, because again,"Water" is not Bacardi music, it's Amapiano music with pop infusion using Bacardi dance moves. And Bacardi is not twerking. There are cultures and origins to these things,and by erasing their origins,you discredit the native people.

[@nontzmkhize8735]

​@@nicoleloss7987 "Tyla didn't popularize Bacardi. It's been around for ages now." To say that Tyla didn't popularize Bacardi is very disingenuous because Bacardi is a very niche genre even in South Africa. It is not a mainstream genre in its country of origin,so how would it be popular internationally? If you are confused,let me explain further. The song "Water" is not the genre of music known as Bacardi. The song "Water" is a fusion of Pop and Amapiano similar to Tyla's debut single from 2020 called "Getting Late." The style of dance that is the signature move of "Water" is from the style of dance that is used in the Bacardi genre and it is not TWERKING. That is why Tyla made it clear to tell people to search for "Bacardi" dance and not to try and twerk during the challenge because it's different than twerking. And yes,Bacardi existed before Tyla but it was not "popular" as it's not a mainstream genre even in South Africa,where it's from. Bacardi songs do not even chart, that's how niche the genre is. The genre that is popular in South Africa and has been for the last decade now is Amapiano,which is where all of the Tik Tok trends come from. And without a doubt, Amapiano is more popular than Bacardi. You just have to look at the streams on Spotify and even on KZbin. You're saying that Tyla didn't popularize Bacardi and you are right because the genre is not popular here in South Africa or internationally. Name 2 Bacardi songs that have been a global hit. Or 2 that have even half the number of streams as "Water." Then you'll see how ridiculous this is. Tyla popularized the STYLE of dance called Bacardi internationally. Which is what even professional Bacardi dancers like Michelle have said. And why Tyla had a Bacardi remix of Water performed by the Bacardi dancers at Hey Neighbour. Bacardi and "Water" are not the same genre of music. Bacardi music is not popular at all. Amapiano is. Which is different. And Tyla said that Bacardi isn't danced to Amapiano and she is correct. Amapiano has its own style of dance which is also getting more and more popular internationally. Bacardi is not twerking. And Bacardi is a niche genre from a specific city in South Africa. So you'll have to explain how Bacardi has been popular internationally and maybe give some suggestions of Bacardi music that has charted and gone viral. Bacardi is not Amapiano. Also,Doja Cat never did Bacardi. She just twerked. So whenever people say stuff like "Tyla didn't popularize Bacardi", "it's been around for ages", "Doja Cat has been dancing like that for a while now" and "Le Sserafim has always Shaked their butts" I KNOW that they don't know what Bacardi is or where it's from or even what it sounds like, because again,"Water" is not Bacardi music, it's Amapiano music with pop infusion using Bacardi dance moves. And Bacardi is not twerking. There are cultures and origins to these things,and by erasing their origins,you discredit the native people.

[@hashiramaaa9882]

not just the beat but the melody

[@vinhthanh2933]

Le sserafim easy sounds like newjeans cookie

[@elfy2006]

hum no, not that much

[@shhhhhhhhh9446]

omg I said this as well to my friend

[@panda_lover293]

How can someone pls hate smart😭😞

[@AriMon05]

The second i heard Smart something clicked in my head and i knew there is some popular song with similar sounding. Finally i found it's name, thanks!!

[@mayurgurung4054]

Also truth n dare

[@hyerin17]

the amount of money i'd pay TO SEE LE SSERAFIM AND TYLA COLLABING OMGGGG

[@kpopstyle_03]

Idk but also the chorus sounds like 'Calm Down' like smarter baby smarter, baby calm down calm down so...ya

[@Just_Kai415]

The song is called “Smart” not “Easy”

[@yeonjunizziz]

I want them to listen to bachata.

[@someoneshortt4820]

The way they sings sounds more like "calm down" by rema just a little faster lmao

[@City_lover4ever]

Good taste