Norwegians Think America Has Some Problems | American Reacts

[@Ann-Lisbeth_Negaard]

The healtcare system in Norway is like you only pay a very low fee from approximately 30 dollar or so every time you get healthcare at the doctors or hospital. Nothing ekstra for ambulance, operations or cancertreatment. We have a limit pr year, if you have paid more than about 350 dollar in total, everything is for free after that. Even if it's early in the year. We calculate it from january throughout desember. You start on scratch in january again. If you are rich, you chose a private doctor or hospital, and that is more expensive. Some people do that if there for example is a waiting list for the type of operation you need. Emergencies are always on the top of priorities of course in government healthcare.And if you need a less important operation, you normally have to wait for a while.

[@afrog2666]

Nobody charges 10 bucks, that`s 100kr, I never even heard of that. (I`m gonna need to see some receipts lol) Standard rate for a general practinioner in oslo is about 35 dollars for 20 minutes, which for some reason is still called "legetime" IE, doctor HOUR. And not EVERYTHING is free after you reach the limit, you still pay for appointments, and medications on "blue receipt" are free or you get them at reduced rates, but it`s by no means "everything", I can attest to that. Furthermore, if you need surgery, there is a calculation being made depending on your age, occupation, previous health situation and future prospects. There is a literal value attached to you as a person with regards to what type of expense will be assigned to your treatment, you can find it online if you search for it. If you`re old and get cancer for instance, the threshold is significantly lower than if you`re in your 20`s and have a good job and or education for instance. It`s not some utpoian free for all where you just "pay 350 bucks then EVERYTHING is free".

[@afrog2666]

I misspelled practitioner, but I`ll leave it in (:

[@Henoik]

Not 'nothing extra' for ambulance or surgery - nothing at all.. Anything that goes through the emergency room is completely free (not even the 300kr standard deductible)

[@Henoik]

​@@afrog2666Standard rate in Oslo? The deductible are standardised across the whole country. You're also wrong about the surgery thing - I've had a lot of surgery through my years, and I've only had to pay deductible for one surgery (because that was what an American would call an elective surgery - ie. not necessary) - and that was also the standard deductible set by the government (I think I paid around 450 kr) even though it was a private surgeon - because it was a surgery covered by the national health insurance.

[@toppy83]

@@afrog2666 FALS, statement you do NOT pay for appointment after exemption card is reached! And the not same care by persona thing is only from the pension age and up last I checked, everyone is a anonym's NUMBER in the system when on waiting lists up to a higher age, so they CANT do what you are saying, and IF you can prove that in any way, shape or form, you have a SUPERB payout from the government coming your way, because what you are saying is illegal's by law. But when you get older and "contribute" less to the system, ofc you will not get a easy pass in front of a young person that has LOTS to offer the next 40-60 years, I would always like a young kid to get in front of me for a kidney or a hearth, if you want anything else, well I don't really like your way of though and we would never get along =) If you are 25 and I am 50 and we both get on a operation list at the same time, we will be next to one another in que, there is NO difference their.

[@Shyroxya]

Norwegian here, in 2020, I had three lung collapses unrelated to covid. 3 ER visits, 3+ weeks in the hospital and 4 surgeries later, I paid maybe $150. And when it comes to education here, we do have student loans, but they usually exist to cover the cost of living while studying and books and such. A lot of people also get stipends in addition, depending on their situation. Also, since student loans are state run, that also means people that end up on disability for example, will get their loans fully or partially forgiven.

[@SouthHill_]

Another big problem is prisons. Very similar to healthcare, being for profit. So many lives ruined because of it, it's quite sad.

[@runeingebretsen8378]

in norway they give you an education and rehabilitation a real one and you actually get out better than when you got in,crazy right?

[@beelzeduck]

The American for profit prison system basically amounts to a legalized verison of slavery. Plenty of normal goods like office furniture, some kinds of clothes/work uniforms, military equipment, books and more are produced from the system, with "wages" around 12-40 cents per hour. And it's not as if the inmates can "quit". Rehabilitating/releasing prisoners in such a system is unprofitable. Enabling extension of sentences however is profitable. Of course with the end result being that no other country on earth come close in share of population incarcerated. And the healthcare system is basically privatized taxation (and no "representation") - resulting in less access for groups that would benefit the most of getting proper care. In turn being less beneficial for society as a whole as well. Also the amount of excessive treatment given to those with excellent insurance is irrational - and often unhealthy.

[@fjalarhenriksson]

@@runeingebretsen8378 look up what a prisoner cost you in taxes every year. and then multiply that by how many there are.

[@lazygamerz]

@@fjalarhenriksson The US pays more taxes than Norway on inmates. Because recidivism is over 80% for a decade, so once you become an inmate in the US chances are you'll spent the majority of the rest of your life in prison. Costing the taxpayers over 25 000 USD per year of your life. Minimum wage without overtime is 15 000 USD btw.

[@PlacidDragon]

well... here is the difference between the US and Norway. I am Norwegian. Many years ago i was in a bad car crash. I had to be transported by helicopter to the hospital, underwent surgery, spent 3 weeks in a coma, and after i awoke, the following month i was all "loony" (i had a monstrous concussion, so my brain was totally scrambled). I then went to an absolute top notch rehab clinic (for my physical injuries). Now... all of that. I dont remember how much i paid, but it was less than 50 bucks.

[@fjalarhenriksson]

and the Citzens of norways had to take the bill. its not free.

[@Zhevons]

Nope, its not free. That part is correct. However the system is built in such a way that everyone can afford it, no one really needs to care about it. No matter their income level, because its covered by taxes and a small copay with a upper limit. Its now about to hit desember, i have used 1700nok so far this year, been to the hospital 3 times, doctors 3 times. Just regular checkups sure. But having had cancer, spending 2 weeks in the hospital. It cost me less then a pizza simply because hospital food sucks everywhere. It is not a perfect system, it has flaws for sure. But a finanical burden on the individual its not, not even close.

[@user-gr5tx6rd4h]

@@fjalarhenriksson It is called solidarity and works like insurance. Relatively few of us are heavily injured but we don't know who will be. Sharing the costs they will not be very big for each person but those unlucky ones escape being ruined. This should be obvious, except to Americans who can't use their heads for anything but hanging their Trump cap on it!

[@moradiehot]

@@fjalarhenriksson hahah thats not how it works. Norway takes the bill, not the Citizens.

[@Crestolis]

@@fjalarhenriksson Tax helps, but then again we don't pay 50% tax like Americans often think we do so it's not so bad. please don't fall under the same tax brain fog box that too many Americans are in, it fucks with your mentality

[@oxyaction]

And they found the norwegians with the most caricaturistic accent too

[@hei6976]

🤣

[@afrog2666]

Ænn itts veri dissapåinting 😂

[@hemmper]

The English language belongs to the world now. We Norwegians can speak English however we damn want without it being a caricature! Just like the Indians do! The Nigerians, the Irish, the Australians and Americans. No law require us to speak the queens language or like BBC, Hollywood or like New York hip-hopers. In fact, the freed slaves in Jamaica made it a point to bend the English language as much as possible, as some sort of a protest, on the brink of being unintelligible except between themselves. This could happen other places too if the "proper" speakers becomes too full of themselves.

[@Henoik]

Knut is a legend

[@Ray-lw2rh]

The thick accent is his thing. He’s not even trying to change it.

[@dippeldopp9980]

I remember seeing an itemised bill for a birth, were a fee was charged for the mother to hold the baby after the delivery!!! That’s just insane!

[@jarlhenrik]

Isn't that skin-to-skin medically proven to be necessary for the infant to bond to the mother?

[@dippeldopp9980]

@ yupp, and it’s usually the first thing they do after birth if the baby is healthy and don’t need oxygen or anything. I think the total bill I saw was like 15.000 $ … I gave birth in Norway and the bill was 0, including all follow ups during the pregnancy and after birth

[@jarlhenrik]

@@dippeldopp9980 Ja, vi har det en tanke bedre enn USA.. xD

[@oldis64]

For a norwegian, this way of running healthcare is crazy! Anyway: Happy thanksgiving !

[@Henoik]

And we have rightist politicians who wants to run the healthcare like this..

[@oldis64]

​@@Henoik Do we? No one will change our "safety-net". But its not perfect, so improvements are welcome.

[@Henoik]

@@oldis64 I mean - Frp wants to bar people under the age of 40 from even receiving disability insurance (uføretrygd). They also have said quite firmly they want to weaken the public health system and shift it to a privatised health system (albeit still paid by the government, but commercial hospitals of course wants to earn money, and money and health don't always pair well together - as can be seen in the example of the US)

[@flo2677]

@@Henoik Not even FRP wants to weaken the welfare state, however we need to reduce the government spending and start using the money more efficient. FRP is 100% right on this matter. When FRP % Høyre wants to cut, the left always warns about cutting in school and welfare and never mentions the money being spend on ridiculous projects. The Center-left government that is in charge today is extremely low on approval ratings and will likely loose the next election to Frp & Høyre.

[@andersgulowsen2814]

Also a fun fact.. Tyler has taught me more about Norway than any school I went to.. and i am 50 years old

[@espekelu3460]

I once heard that you got "packages" on various insurance policies in the US, which you had to choose from. Here in Norway, you tell us which insurance policies you want, and you also get an offer based on that. But then you don't pay 10,000 dollars for an ambulance trip either. An acquaintance broke his leg on a mountain trip, was picked up by helicopter, but had to transfer to an ambulance due to poor visibility in order to fly, so at the hospital he had a plaster cast on his leg, and afterwards he paid 360.- for the plaster, and that was everything he had to pay.

[@Contentious_Point_]

Education is free and compulsory for 10 years, from there it's optional, when you've reached university they charge what's called a "student tariff" which is a nominell fee for being a student (somewhere from 40 to 60 $) as well as your curriculum books. You'il also need to have a laptop, but most people get laptops whether they're studying or not, so you may not count it as part of the cost of being a student, you'il even get particularly cheap deals on laptops if you can show you have student ID(this goes for other stuff too, like public transport, access to swimming halls, gyms, travell, etc.).

[@liselotte3281]

Everybody already have a laptop, that they got in videregående skole, so they will most likely just use that. And you can loan books at the library. Everybody that doesen't live at home also get a stipend. The government gives out "cheap" student loans to everybody for living expenses

[@Contentious_Point_]

@@liselotte3281 library rarely has the updated curriculi, even less likely to have more than a handfull of books if they do stock them the student loans are under strict requirements, you've basically got to be poor in order to qualify, effectively making it harder to hold your head above water while studying if you saved through your childhood -I was one of those kids that put near all my present money and allowance in my savings, when I was a teen my parents suggested putting the money in a fund. When I reached the age where a student loan became relevant I was in possesion of wayyy less than I'd need in order to support myself for during my studies, but also quite a bit more than the "fortune limit" for qualifying... for you these thing may seem obvious lise, but I felt the need to point out details for Tyler and whoever else in the comments section from abroad☺

[@MC-Racing]

In Denmark. healtcare is free on contact, we all pay taxes to pay for it, which is MUCH cheaper than having a middleman (insurance companies) and education is free on contact, and we actually PAY people to study, because in the end this produces a better workforce that in the end will be more effective, earn more money, live better lives, statistically be less sick and pay more taxes

[@Seductus99]

No it's not. I could have a very good health care with private insurance. I pay taxes here in norway, just about 10000 dollars a year in just healt care tax. And just don't mention the waiting time here in norway.

[@MC-Racing]

@@Seductus99 so you know how much of your taxes go to healtcare? does the government specify this to you? and if thats the case and you really are paying 10000 dollars worht of tax only towards healtcare, i guess you earn a LOT of money, and you can afford to get a private insurance also if you should wish. and in the meantime be happy about the fact that you are a great benefit to your society :-)

[@lpdude2005]

@@Seductus99 @Seductus99 Then you have an income of about $115,000 which is perfectly fine - but it's not just health insurance you pay. You pay into your own retirement pension and if you maintain that income you will probably get about $65,000 per year from the age of 62 or 67 and for the rest of your life.

[@karstenstormiversen4837]

@@Seductus99 Then you must be the only Norwegian that do that since never have taxes in Norway been anything other than one amount that give you acsess to education,healthcare and all the other benefits that you get for your taxes! Please do tell me where it says on the selvangivelsen what amount of taxes goes to what?

[@viplaesh]

He lives in both Norway and the US, does most of his work in the US. Regarding his accent, I think it has become a part of his gimmick, he is a streamer known for strong opinions and viking appearance. I believe he would have become better in English by now if it wasn't part of his persona

[@melanp4698]

React to Scandinavia in general (Norway, Sween, Denmark) They have a lot of similarities, but also some differences. Will be more interesting than only looking at Norway.

[@afrog2666]

1600 dollars for an ambulance ride is RIDICULOUS, that IS a scam, and it`s sad honestly. And even if you have "good" insurance, you have to fight the insurance company to get what you`ve paid for..

[@Henoik]

As a paramedic, I kinda understand it though. Not because it should cost anything at all, but considering the ambulance service in the US _is_ a glorified taxi (if you call 911 and ask for an ambulance, they will send it out to you, even if it's not strictly required. A lot of my American colleagues are complaining about having to deal with bullshit cases that just take an ambo ride for the heck of it - idk, maybe they're full of money?). It's not like over here where if you call the emergency hotline, you're triaged over the phone, and if it's clearly a non-emergency, you're either referred to the local urgent care facility, your GP, or told to eat a bunch of paracetamol. It if worked the same way over here, I'd also expect there to be a high cost for it. But this just goes to show that there is a LOT wrong with the American healthcare system.

[@skdfdjkdfjkd]

scambulance?

[@lpdude2005]

In Norway you pay income tax and in it there is a 7.9% tax that goes to social security contributions. It covers all illness, the possibility of disability benefits if you get a serious illness and old age pension. You get your old age pension from 62-67 years and for the rest of your life and is approximately 66% of the average of your salary in the last 3 years - a maximum of about $73,000 per year after the age of 67. The difference in paying taxes and fees in Norway versus the USA is enormous. In Norway, you get back on average 86% of what you have paid in taxes and fees throughout your life - while in the USA you only get 19%. The USA has the world's most expensive administrative costs and the private hospitals and pharmaceutical industry are the world's least efficient. Medicines purchased for Norway from the USA cost only 1/15th of what citizens in the USA pay through insurance or private

[@Greksallad]

Idk about Norway but here in Sweden, university isn't just free, you actually get paid to study. Don't have to pay a dime for it, but if you need to take student loans for other expenses, the interest rate is crazy low and you have 25 years to pay it off.

[@Frydo]

Basically same in norway, stipend is your payment for going to school. Student loans basically have no interest. Good to live in a sivilized country neightbour 🙂

[@CloudHugger79]

what's up with the over exaggerated norwegian accent of these guys? Most people in Norway doesn't speak english like this, but some apparently do - it hurts to listen to.

[@bkern8536]

All of my friends speak like this, just speak the way you feel is natural.

[@MrZedax]

I were thinking about the same thing. they are talking English with a Norwegian Pitch pattern. Not only that but he is trying to get he's point across and i think that is were he get the exaggerated Norwegian accent.

[@elisadaygrey]

Like Jens Stoltenberg

[@borgerborgersen372]

Some Norwegians speak with this "Petter Solberg" English accent. It's rather funny to listen to. At least they're not afraid of speaking and we do understand them. Some older Norwegians would refuse to speak English at all because they feel they're not speaking well. So I take the "Petter Solberg" English every day over silence. Even some of our main politicians like Torbjørn Jagland or Jens Stoltenberg speak English with a heavy accent despite having a great vocabulary. We have so many dialects in Norway so people in general aren't bothered with having an accent. At least the accent makes it easier for a native English speaker to know where you're from. Then they will be more lenient towards you if you do something that's not the right way to do in the English speaking country.

[@VidarLund-k5q]

The tone of voice, tonefall, has to do with musicality. If you're a musical person it's much easier to speak a foreign language more correctly sound wise. All of us haven't a great "musical ear" and may have problems even singing in tune. For Norwegians and other Northern European countries speaking a Germanic language it's easier to speak better sounding English than people of Eastern and Southern Europe, speaking Slavic and Latin languages, not to speak of the Finnish-Ugric languages. So not being able to speak English or any other languages totally perfectly has nothing to do with intelligence or education, it's a talent you're born with or without. By the the way, some of the worst in this respect are English speakers. They cannot even say the letters correctly.

[@trinewestbyejrgensen4838]

Last year i had to call the ambulance twice and ended up in hospital. I paid nothing, not even an deductible. Which would have been 48 dollars. They said, dont bother with it. Because i had been there several times for the same thing.

[@Henoik]

Yup, emergency care in Norway is 100% free - unless it goes thru your GP or urgent care, they want their deductible nonetheless

[@mibbern_9273]

The norwinglish is strong with this one. 😅Makes me cringe a bit.

[@jacobnielsen3535]

The klats suprise us all

[@Kari.F.]

Yes, holy crap - especially the second guy! 😳

[@mibbern_9273]

@@Kari.F. fr, it makes me want to defend my english lol. Like: I promise all norwegians don't talk like that! I think a bit of an accent is nice and even charming but damn... their's is thick.

[@barb6525]

It's not just higher education, but all the way down. Americans seems to be more interested in restricting access to knowledge rather than expanding it, and when you're not taught to see the bigger picture and to be critical of information you receive, how are you going to know how to do it when you grow up? The fact that people believe that Peter will come home from school as Mary, because the schools/teachers can -and will- do that in just a few hours, is just mindblowing and speaks volumes about how something needs to be done with the educational system.

[@TomKirkemo-l5c]

Universties in Norway arent free, it's about 200 USD a year. ;)

[@Atlas_Redux]

Uh, no. Government assigned universities are not allowed to charge a fee in Norway. It's literally illegal to charge a fee by government approved universities.

[@suppon2754]

@@Atlas_Redux there is however a semester fee you have to pay each semester about 60 USD, and you have to pay for books

[@Atlas_Redux]

@@suppon2754 That fee is not for the university. That's for the SWO and digital cover fee, which the university takes none of. Books are covered by stipend/grant.

[@suppon2754]

@@Atlas_Redux that might be true, however not everyone gets stipend, it is actually a loan, and some of that gets converted to stipend If you pass the different subjects in the course, and you need to live away from home

[@torba23]

@@suppon2754 no, a stipend is not a loan. I never needed to pay back the stipend I got when I went to school. however you can get a student loan that have no interest

[@JizyaDhimmi]

It is not true that it is free of charge. What is true is that it is financed through relatively high taxes. The income tax is 37.5% for most people. But the thing is you are supposed to kinda "get back" those money in forms of different forms of welfare.

[@daru6088]

was at the hospital the other day and had x-rays and blood tests. Also CT scanning. Didn't pay NOK 1. Had a free card. Because if you buy medicine or have been to the hospital/doctor a lot, you get a free card. You must then have spent around 3,500. Otherwise you pay around 30/35 dollars.

[@LarsEspen]

07:40 i am norwegian and live in norway and the doctor told me top take a taxi with a broken leg... i can't say norway is perfect either since i was told to walk to the opther side of the hospital with a broken leg that i can't walk on, without offering help or anything. America is much much wirse ifc but i don't want people to think norway has it amazingly since in reality since it is so cheap they kinda are a bit lazy with the ambulances and theyre service, they don't care about you clearly, or it might have just been the hospital i was a t so idk. Just a random thought that popped up while watching this

[@Greksallad]

Same in Sweden - depending on your injury, they'll tell you to get to the hospital on your own. I don't think it's unreasonable in a lot of cases, but in your case it sounds really dumb because it's kinda hard to get anywhere with a broken leg...

[@andersgulowsen2814]

Some years back.. I am not proud of it.. But I was shittfaced..Fell asleep on a bus stop.. a bypasser called an ambulance, they checked me up and drove me home... No charge.

[@andersgulowsen2814]

No one ever read between the lines? An ambulance spent 30 min on me.. Minimum.. Wich means no one else needed them. That is kinda amazing. 20 min Outside Oslo. So yes.. Norway is kinda safe

[@goranforsberg639]

Not only Norwegians, all of scandinavia, All of Europe and the rest of the civilized world. Even what is called developed countries.

[@neferatih]

The most insane thing i remember hearing about the US healthcare system is that it is cheaper to take a flight to and from Mexico or Canada, receiving health care there and then taking a flight back to the US than it is to go to the ambulance and get treatment in the US.

[@megatryn]

11:30 Yeah, education is free and as a student everyone get`s a monthly grant and a very reasonable loan from the state so that you can focus on studying and not having to work (that much) to survive while studying. It`s called studielån and studiestipend. Most students have a small time job on the side, but in theory if you`re careful with your money you can get by on only the grant and loan whilst studying.

[@Atlas_Redux]

"Gets", not "get's".

[@megatryn]

@ ah, sorry for getting the possessiv apostrophe wrong in my non-native language. Must be the crappy, free, Norwegian education system who is to blame. Curses! /s

[@Henoik]

As a non-student myself I think many students would disagree that the grant and loan are reasonable given our current economic state. It should definitely be increased, as I don't think anyone can live off of 4000 kr a month (this is what you will have as a student after paying your rent, given a full loan is applied for)

[@Atlas_Redux]

@@megatryn "Possessive", not "possessiv".

[@Atlas_Redux]

@@Henoik You're supposed to work part time as well. Always has been that way.

[@espekelu3460]

Regarding university, going to school doesn't cost anything, but you have to pay thousands for books. The books are incredibly expensive, which is why you can see after the end of the school year, the graduating classes are sitting on the street selling their books to those who come after. But often many of the books are out of print, so you might only get to sell 1/3 of the books. This has been reacted to many times, because it can often only be a new edition of the same book. Often both the name and origin have changed, but as I said, the content is the same as last year's version.

[@monican5047]

Thats what stipend is for, buyinc books.

[@Gallus7631]

I had a couple of Finnish friends in college, now, if these people who looked like something out of Hitlers most fervent wet dreams can say America is one of the most, racist hypocritical countries in the world, based simply on what they saw & experienced living here, it boggles my mind how people here gaslight others for calling out the blatant stupidity, they left immediately, after graduating, foregoing numerous job offers, & it’s sad because these gentlemen were engineering grads who could have contributed positively, to the country with skills we desperately need & are losing due to the rise of anti intellectualism & brain drain. The US is cooked imo

[@Batchelli]

That's Knut, he's a streamer from Hamar.

[@Golnosh]

To be fair, there is no easy solution to this. It seems crazy that healthcare is that expensive, but we need to remember Norway is a small, rich country with a population of 5,6million people, while USA has 345million. Free healthcare wouldnt work in the US unless the government started spending their military budget on healthcare

[@therraxz]

Was at an norwegian doctor appointment it cost me 10 or 15$ or there about. Its what we call "free healthcare" in norway. Dentist in norway is not "free" its not part of the healthcare and when i was at the dentist to pull a tooth last time it cost me 300$. A dentist check is about 110$. Thats a huge difference from doctors. Oh as a sidenote, childbirth and calling ambulances are free compared to the usa.

[@joelsjogren5636]

A Solution for America would be to change the voting system so you vote for policies not a party/person you have to read or lisen to policies then vote on what policies you prefer.

[@toppy83]

In Norway we each pay 285,99$ max in healthcare cost, EVERYTHING after that is free. It is called in English "exemption card" So I usually with my medication have 100% free healthcare from around February/march. The thought of having to say no to the right care because you are afraid to be in debt for the rest of your life is INSANE to me =( We also have something called "Blue prescription" that has NO cost to you no matter what the cost, this is something doctors can prescribe to you when it is life important medicine, like heart pills, insulin and so one so forth, things you need to survive, you don't pay for that ever, also if you get put in over night at hospital, NO CHARGE ever, not even before you reach the exemption card, no cost for overnight surgery's and so on. The amount of theft from the American people from privatized stuff is INSANE, Healthcare, School system, Insurance, PRISON is a big one, even your Police is kind of privatized some places if you think of it. How is it with like fire/rescue? How does that work in America? By choosing Trump you did all of the above worse I am afraid =( I KNOW it is a fact with healthcare at least, I cant for the life of me see ONE single thing for the average person that will get better with Trump at the wheel AGAIN. Rich people will have a blast though =(

[@LeperMessiah2]

Same. I max out in April

[@BizzyX78]

----- @toppy83 ----- - To quote the movie 'Independence Day (1996)'...: "Uh... Excuse me, Mr. President? That's not entirely accurate." - There are a few examples of situations where this 'Exemption Card' does not apply. For one... This card does not, under normal circumstances, cover all types of medicine. This card covers only certain prescription medicine and medical supplies, like for chronic illness and long-term treatment. So even though you have indeed reached this 'Exemption-Limit' there are still out-of-pocket expenses in Norway for health care, even if you have health insurance coverage. Some other stuff that is not covered under normal circumstances is f.e. suturing, even bandages do not always get covered depending on the situation. Also, the use of inhalators and defibrillators will not get covered under this 'Exemption-Card' at the doctor's office. There is other stuff as well that I have not mentioned, but these things that I did mention were stuff that I remembered off the top of my head. -----

[@liselotte3281]

The blue prescription is for chronic diseases, not only life saving ones. You may get skin cream on blue prescription if you got eczema, for instance. Or eye drops for dry eyes.

[@toppy83]

@@liselotte3281 that is correct

[@fjalarhenriksson]

nothing is free professor dumdum its all taken from the people.

[@KingFrederik1309]

Never would have thought Knut would feature on this channel, hahah

[@lawlietriver8869]

Personally I would point out prisons before I pointed out education. In Norway (it has been years since I read up the stats, but at the time this was) we have the same rehabilitation and the US does retention. The US creates criminals for life, and Norway takes criminals and turns them into productive members of society. To me that is significant enough where anyone should be able to go: Even if I do not care about the well being of the criminals, I certainly want them to not do harm unto my loved ones. Yet that is not the case in the US. That utterly baffles me.

[@Tzarakiel]

50 dollars for a band-aid? For that cost I could get 10 meters of band-aids.

[@aasew7709]

Students have to have loan in Norway too. But we all pay tax.😮

[@catcherinthesky]

You don't pay for the education you're receiving and the student loans are interest-free for as long as you are receiving a loan and grant for full-time education, or if you receive support for part-time education. Yes, the government doesn't pay salary to students - it's a loan with remarkable low interest. That's what's happens in a country who cares about it's inhabitants.

[@jacobnielsen3535]

I did not expect to see the Klats on this channel

[@labhrainn]

In Norway the most common salary is around NOK 500-540 000 per annum or about USD 40-45 000. How much income tax you pay varies depending on your situation but if it's 25% then the portion of income tax you pay that goes to welfare ie you health insurance, your pension, your unemployment benefits, your disability pension, etc, etc is around USD 291-308 per month. If you earn more, NOK 1 000 000 for example then obviously you pay a higher sum & you may well pay as much as USD 430. Your fella doesn't say how much he earns..... USD 430 seems a lot but what portion of his income it is remains a mystery.

[@Ray-lw2rh]

It’s Knut! He’s a Norwegian twitch streamer.

[@jomorken4853]

My friend got given double amount of medicine against Hepatitis C. He gave it to an American woman, who needed that medicine, and would have costed her more than 10 000 dollars in the US. She is now Hep-free.

[@John-19k20]

04:50 $480 a month for healthcare? Oo Even if I bothered to get additional healthcare insurance - which I don't know for sure is even a thing? - in Norway, it wouldn't cost nearly as much as that a month. I'd imagine that it would maybe be around NOK8000-10000 ($725-906) a year, tops. I'll edit this post - assuming it doesn't get deleted as per usual (looking at you, KZbin!), - if someone gives better details.

[@astridbirgittevern1877]

Apart from the lack of social security, I think the bipartisan system is a major problem. If there is ONE country that would need more nuances in politics, it would be the US.

[@christofferandersen1906]

Another aspect of government-funded healthcare is that it incentivizes the government to care for its citizens' health, as this reduces the cost of covering sick individuals.

[@papagon7506]

So heres a thing. Ambulance/threatment due to a cut or broken arm. Here in norway it will max cost you 60-70$ (6-700NOK) depending, but a normal apointment would be like 20-30$(2-300NOK). Than I hear this guy get ambulance and that cost 1200$ like (12,000NOK) ??? How are you americans still so many when most of you dont have enugh economy to call for an ambulance? And still if paying for insurance but also need to pay much.. I would rather save the money it cost for the insurance to myself as a backup amount, just in case. I always knew Americans had to pay for their hospital time, but 1200$ for an ambulance???? Did not think it was that much. =O

[@DillaryHuff]

That guy has the most Norwegian/Scandinavian, English accent that I've heard since the gay Scandinavians in the movie, "Dude, where's my car?" 😅

[@DillaryHuff]

FFS, the second guy has an even thicker accent 🤣

[@execgrhvx]

Health insurance is something we take for granted here in Sweden and Europe overall. I remember when I had a hand surgery, got a lot of medications for it and then I had to pay 30 dollars or something. Right now I'm taking medicine for an infection in my body, and I pay like 10 dollars for 3 months of supply. I have cousins in America and it baffles me when my cousin tells me she had to pay 12K dollars to deliver a kid, like wtf? Why pay for human rights?

[@nanach6276]

I just imagine some really injured dude trying to crawl his way out of the ambulance. Sounds dangerous for everyone if you pedal to the metal to the hospital with a broken arm and blood in your eyes. Watch out for them kids, if you injure them they can't afford College. Why do you need to pay for a degree anyway. It is just knowledge you get online and then take the test and get like an A or B or C etc. ?

[@yvindamundsen7365]

Not sur if any has commented it, but the norwegian guy (Knut) has moved to the US. He is a streamer, so i guess that was his ticket into the podcast show.

[@Random_Guardsman]

His ticket was knowing Asmongold, Emi and Tectone for years and having Tectone on Camp Knut which is his own thing where he trains people^^

[@yvindamundsen7365]

@Random_Guardsman it was a guess, because I dont know much about Kunt. But thank you for clearing that up

[@erikscoins]

Hearing this makes me so sad for the US people :(

[@bohomazdesign725]

America: Work to pay until you die. Rest of the World: Work to live. PS: I know the American version should go "Live to work", but looking at the American healthcare system I have my doubts if that even is true :P Sorry.

[@MsFuruodden]

I don’t understand why you votes the billionaires into office over and over again. The people have the power if they want to.

[@Atlas_Redux]

That's the lack of education part.

[@Henoik]

You're talking about a country that is defined as a 'flawed democracy' in the democracy index. Norway is no. 1 in the democracy index, so that is like comparing apples to oranges. In Norway, access to democracy is really really easy. Like, almost everyone I knew in high school (myself included) were active members of a political organisation (not necessarily a political party, but a political organisation working toward some sort of political goal). Politicians tour around campaigning in schools, in hospitals, and even in prisons, during the election times, to ensure most people know what they're voting for. There are mock elections in every school in the country, and voting opens like 2 months before the actual election day. Access to democracy is really really important

[@Nicole_Riviere]

You guys deserve to feel safe in terms of affordable healthcare. It’s immoral how it works now

[@aeo1976]

The healthcare system and education system is bad for sure. They are not the top 2 tho. The absolute number one is legalized loopholes to bribing of presidents, judges and politicians,and in general donor money in politics. Not having a real democracy with the electoral college and jerrymandering giving areas with relative low population and uneducated religous cult fanatics to much power, is another big issue. Both these issues he mentioned is mainly caused by these root issues.

[@unclescipio3136]

Oh yeah, it's crazy. Like, 'lobbyist' is a job in America. Corrupting politicians is a legal job! You go to prison in free countries for that stuff.

[@thomasjacobsen9768]

" Petter Solberg engelsk " is still alive xD

[@nanolfo_]

To me (a Norwegian), the USA seems like a dystopia.

[@askalds]

I swear one of the guys on the couch have the exact same accents as they have in the Norsemen series. 🤣

[@Random_Guardsman]

That one guy is the norwegian guy.

[@afrog2666]

I heard bringing a child into this world normally lies around 5k, and if it`s premature it can be TEN TIMES that :o Is that true?

[@Atlas_Redux]

Not only that, you have to pay a fee to HOLD YOUR OWN BABY right after it's born, or wait until later. So called "skin to skin contact fee". It's absolutely insane.

[@arnehusby1420]

Norwegian students have to take out student loans to have something to live on. Many students work alongside their studies.

[@Elin-LightWorker]

Ambulance 🚑 ride 1000$ is 10.000 kr i Norwegian money. And 160$ with Insurance 😮 THAT 'S WITH HEALTH CARE. (Til Nordmenn...og dette er hva Høyre, og Frp vil vi skal gå mot)!! I would rather pay my taxes, and get the free healthcare ++ we have here in Scandinavia. I'm a Paramedic, and hearing ppl dumping persons outside the ER bc it's too expensive to get help from an ambulance is just sad.. 50$ for a band-aid, just go to the pharmacy on the corner, and get it for 2$. This is why we pay taxes. We complain about it here all the time, but when you see & hear how actually Lucky we are, you'll gladly pay the taxes. And as a paramedic I don't have to feel guilty for helping the ppl in my country.. I'll get you to the Hospital free of charge. Yes we have free education. Usa-the land ppl dream off!! 😂 No thanks

[@yvindaamodt4445]

cost pr kapita list.. cost more in usa, and not have free for all lol... from 2022 list United States $12,474 Norway $8,693 Switzerland $8,049 Netherlands $7,358 Austria $7,275 Luxembourg $6,956 Belgium $6,600

[@MrLasox]

Because you are asking if it's true about our healthcare system is free. Yes and no. Yes too the most part the government will be taken care of you if you are sick, but if you would have too see a doctor or visit the "emergency room" like your own then we have too be paying a little sum deductible personaly i have never getting higher then $30 after a visit, it's years ago now so i bet it's higher now. But if you are really sick. Needed too go to the hospital and stay there for days, weeks or months or rehabilitering then you don't need too pay up any amount as far i know after my own experience. Then it's the government will be paying everything for you. And trust me for the most part of the healthcare system. We have one of the best one in the world out there. Taken care of you! Have personaly only seen two event in my lifetime that happend too my grandmother meanwhile she was dying one of the doctors wanted too kick her out. That was crazy too me. Even though she has paid her taxes whole life, and rarely have been sick or anything. I don't know what's wrong with that doctors. But, other then that everyone i have seen have wanted too taken care of you when you are at hospital. This is what i love so much about Norway and the social democracy value our government have. Actually seeing you as a human. Altough we are paying for the services through our taxsystem so they don't care your income, your insurance like you do thinking so much about. That's shouldn't be the first question when you are getting in the hospital either. What's the insurance you have?! I would rather be getting: "What's wrong with you as first question". You have no idea so much stress relief that's gives me when i'm hearing these kinda questions everytime i'm visiting. I'm always afraid that we will become like United States. If that would ever happend i'm most likely dead. For example for years ago i had blowout behind the mouth so i had alot of issue with eating probabily. I said this too the ordinary doctor that i was thinking that i had some issue too eat, but he didn't take it seriously. But the next doctor i had took it extremly seriously. Sent me for MR within very few days. Within short period of time they found the issue and within few months i was getting surgery and then after that i needed too go for the rehab center. Everything was "free". Saying "free" because i'm also paying taxes like everyone else and that's within the money i'm paying for the tax. One extra note is that. If you are poor, then the tax ratio will be lower as well, but will be higher when you are rich. So you don't need too add up more stress with thinking about getting the bills. That's always helps. Imagine if you need a surgery and need too thinking about getting better, but how can you do that if you have just getting a bill of $10,000 or $100,000?! That's gives you so much stress. Have also seen other younger family with kids that's been sent bills for millions of dollar. You can't really be thinking about rehab with that kinda stress. It's crazy too me how much the government in United States cares of everyone, expect their own citizen. They are sending out so many billions too other countries in need, but will never help out their own citizen with better healthcare. The level of corruption between the healthcare and the politicians and lobby is crazy too me.

[@elisabethstermo9396]

I've been at surgery 7 times through my life and didn't pay a single dime. We have to pay for going to the emergency clinic if it is acute situation but only like between 30 to 50 dollars. If we then are sent from the emergency clinic to the hospital in an ambulance we don't have to pay anymore. The rest is free. Even if you stay there for 3 or 6 weeks or more.

[@Frydo]

We have better pet insurance in Norwy, then your premium insurance. Kind of crazy.

[@Math1asLJ]

Very very interesting

[@outrageousotis454]

When you get schooled by a gymrat, but can't have education because it's "socialist" so you vote for a genious that will take away Affordable Care Act...And replace it with...concepts🤣🤣🤣

[@jankas64]

try to go by ambulance for free in us. in Sweden its total free. hospital stay in sweden is 11 dollars incl food and care. no insurance needed its payed by tax. ER cost 20-45 dollars. so i talk daily with a us in northern us and i get scared of dark when he tells the prices.

[@nanach6276]

Like, half of the American TV-series and movies would not have a plot if it wasn't for bad healthcare.

[@anneskuse5448]

We get our petroleum back +toll when I go to the hospital for checkup kr 350 petrol toll kr 40 every time. I have been in hospital over 40 times 0 kr. We live 45 minutes from the hospital. 😀 ambulances free. One year sick pay + 3 years which I think about 40/60 % pay not sure about that. I Burt my leg on hot water,it took a one year to fix and our house insurance pay us kr 25 000 back. So our tax is not so bad for all the things u get free.

[@MultiBluesboy]

Did he buy the ambulance?

[@kholdanstaalstorm6881]

No, they have to pay that for a single transport to the hospital.

[@Atlas_Redux]

@@kholdanstaalstorm6881 Wooooosh.

[@MultiBluesboy]

​@@kholdanstaalstorm6881 I live in Norway, Here it's for free. Hospital is free too.

[@kholdanstaalstorm6881]

@MultiBluesboy I'm living in Norway, too. I'm just trying to give you the context if you need it.

[@andreasrstumljkjel9871]

Another big problem is the gun regulation. Why is it a right to have guns

[@stighenningjohansen]

I was involved in in car crash a few years ago, 2017, an old fart, the police was pissed, but It didnt cost me a penny. I

[@stighenningjohansen]

I was jjust pinned together.

[@anne-christineacpetersson6870]

Would it be cheaper to use a vetrinarian ? 😅

[@worsman1870]

I swear, Asmongold has truly infected my youtube. Even you are reacting to him now 😂

[@TorBarstad]

The median person in the US is significantly richer than the median European. And the US is a more innovative country, standing behind more of the world's innovation per person. I think it's fine for Europeans to "bash" things in the US that seem sub-optimal, but we should also show curiosity about "what does the US do better than we do?". Each system has weaknesses/strengths, and each side could learn some things from the other.

[@Atlas_Redux]

WRONG. This is a nonsense myth that doesn't seem to die. The average PPP in norway is $56,532.16, while in the US it's $47,587.30. Did you take your education in the US? Sure seems like it.

[@TorBarstad]

​@@Atlas_Redux But I didn't say "Norway", I said "Europe". Norway feels like an unfair comparison, since we "cheat" by having so much oil/gas. (Of course, the US also have their own "unfair advantages", like e.g. being English-speaking, and the economies of scale that come with being such a large and populous country. But still.)

[@Atlas_Redux]

@@TorBarstad The oil/gas argument is nonsense, something HE LITERALLY COVERED JUST DAYS AGO. Sweden and Denmark doesn't have oil, and they have the same system.

[@Random_Guardsman]

Thats some cope.. Its higher in Norway so thats just a lie. Oil and gas, the US has way more than Norway has, they just didnt actually save any of the money they made in the oil boom, most of it went to rich companies who was allowed to take that money rather than something like Norway which invested it. Not that it matters when you look at Denmark and Sweden. Why mention Europe when the topic is Norway and the US, who compares a continent to a country, take the south american countries into the mix aswell then, see how well it goes xD

[@TorBarstad]

Sweden and Denmark indeed have a similar system to ours, despite no oil. But unlike us, they have lower GDP per capita than the US. I have a lot of respect for Denmark and Sweden of course, and in many ways (but not all ways) they are better than the US. E.g. they have a better social safety net.

[@GnosticAtheist]

There is no sane reason for 10k USD for an ambulance unless they have magical capabilities. In a non-socialized system like the US, I could understand it if they paid for the salaries of the people in the ambulance, wear and tear (pretty low amount) and a 50% profit margin. At most, it would be a few hundred, possible a thousand in rare cases. Over 10k makes no sense and its a scam.

[@kaorumugen991]

Mate, for 10k USD I should be _teleported_ to and from the hospital, and it would _still_ be too much. Sheer and utter insanity.

[@fjalarhenriksson]

he follows the government talking points. The Norwegian healthcare is disgustingly horrible.

[@lalogal]

And Europeans can get help in American hospitals and our travel insurance pay for it...

[@waize]

So what are tTump gonna do with it? If anything at all.

[@Math1asLJ]

I love Knut

[@Mr.Rosebud]

Im going to get doctor care in a few hours. Costs me 20$ am in sweden.

[@SaraKvammen-tx7qc]

We have an American guy in our village of 912 people, he claims I have a wider vocabulary than him😂.My dad had a library, so the credit goes to my dad.❤

[@VidarLund-k5q]

It's a known fact that USAmericans don't read books so they don't lesrn much after going to school. Blame it on generations of numbskulls watching harebrained tv entertainment all the time..

[@ivleontellus]

In norway we have "lånekassen" a bank system for students. Give loan and subsitutes to studens. And there system that if you move to a place(like north of norway) they delete a part of your studentloan

[@MayNorway]

Regarding Lånekassen: You can have your debt written off if you: are at least 40% or 50% disabled, receives disability benefits or have income below NOK 548,362 in 2024.

[@elisadaygrey]

At some point in the last decade America became a third world country with glitter and sparkles to us Europeans. I just had surgery to remove cancerous cells and it didn't cost me a thing. It should be like that for everyone in a civilized society.

[@sunshinejansen85]

What If a homeless person is ingured and cant pay?

[@anneskuse5448]

I have stayed in hospital with open heart surgery and many other serious illnesses more than 40 times, I have only work for a few years but still I pay nothing not a cent. I feel so sad for u American 😢

[@Zhippy]

It seems to me, many of the clips you are watching are sugarcoating Norway's "look" a great deal. Would love to hear what you think of this. /watch?v=aJZVADB4PXs

[@JK_87606]

America is the best 🙂

[@karstenstormiversen4837]

Where in America would that be? Canada,Mexico,Brazil,Chile Honduras, San Savador and so on and on!

[@JK_87606]

@karstenstormiversen4837 good question

[@tiggergutt70]

Some of my friends and myself really believe that the USA are still stuck in the 60's regarding the modernity of the US society (health, vacation, labor rights, education, religion, pension, etc.). Happy to leave in Europe where most of the countries are really more advanced than the USA in theses aspects. Even Mexico is now more socially advanced than the USA!!! Sadly, the weirdo that will lead your country for the 4 years to come is really not about to put the USA in the modern ages. Good luck with it. Greetings from Norway.

[@Henoik]

Uhm... I see where you're getting at, but in the 60s, the US actually had all these things figured out. Healthcare didn't cost you an arm and a leg - people were able to afford a vacation abroad, the US had strong labor unions, education was still expensive but more people had access to it, pensions were also sorted out - even through the government. Then Nixon came to power and he alone literally fucked up all of these things single-handedly

[@nikolais163]

America is crazy

[@tretiger1]

Right after birth, skin to skin contact 10$

[@fredrikwessel9765]

When did this scam start?

[@rosemariefinnoen5593]

its not free eduaciton in norway.u have to get a loan.its not free paying in hospital and doctors, but its small against your paying. before all was no pay .but now since we arn more we have to pay more. do you think elders in norway is better now than in 80 s. its not glory in norway.tho its bether than yours

[@Kristian-Haugland]

Dj jeeesus. That im from Østlandet english sucks😂

[@ngaourapahoe]

It is too hard to watch. Here in Switzerland healthcare insurance is mandatory and this is a scam too in a milder way. Those who take care of their health properly, or prefer to use alternative medicine, do not really need it. In the name of democracy everyone pays for careless individuals. Accident coverage is justified though.

[@jollyo9276]

This is one importent reasons why tobacco and alcohol is priced quite high in Norway, because of helth influences and consequences in more accidents and crime. To pay for some of the "extra" healthcare and policing.

[@trinewestbyejrgensen4838]

Yes, university and all schools are free. Unless you go to a private school.

[@borgerborgersen372]

The is no tuition, but we still need student loans for living expenses, books and equipment when you go to the university. For schools up to high school we usually live at home so books and equipment are the main expenses. In middle school I think we borrow books from the school. Anyway, our system is much better than the US system where parents have to save up for years to pay for their children's college. Granted, you can get scholarships in USA, but not all get that. The main difference between the US and Norwegian system regarding education and health care is that in Norway the Government will ensure everybody have the opportunity to get an education and proper healthcare. Your or your family's income situation doesn't determine the quality of your service. In USA you can get excellent service if you can afford a good enough health insurance and can afford the college tuition to the best schools. However, if you don't earn a lot you will get less quality. Those who are unemployed or don't have an income for other reasons can't afford any service at all. In European countries the main philosophy is that the Government is your safety net so you're safe regardless of income. The US philosophy is that you're personally responsible for your own life and can't expect the government to help you out if you for some reason can't help yourself. Granted, you have a lot of individuals or non-profit organizations helping the poor in USA, but you still have the uncertainty what can happen if you get sick and couldn't afford a decent health insurance. It's not fun growing up knowing you might have to take up a huge student loan to get a college education just because your parents can't afford to pay for your tuition. The downside of our system is that everybody get an adequate service, but rarely excellent service. We complain about our health care system with long waiting lists for surgeries, limitations to which medicines you're offered, old equipment at the hospitals etc. In USA you can get the best service if you can pay for it. Private hospitals can offer something similar in Norway, but some left wing parties want these abolished. We also complain about our school system. One reason is that we struggle to get people to become teachers. The job is not well paid. The curriculum level is reduced to ensure everybody can pass. So some students decide to study abroad to get a better quality education.

[@Atlas_Redux]

@@borgerborgersen372 Get a part time job for living expenses. This is not a problem for most. We also have grants (stipend) for books and equipment.

[@carro-xb9oz]

like ure channel but ure talking wayyyy to much ure supposed to listen to them and u take over and just babble nonstop! no offense but u need to settle down abit and watch and listen first and talk after u watched it:)

[@bmwtoyz]

Tyler... you talk to much. this video was all you talking. not good. .i wantet your reaction, not the US story. Sorry but it?s the facts