U-DRAG RACE: Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing vs. Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio | Quarter Mile & More!

[@edmundscars]

What other sport sedan U-Drags matchups would you like to see? Let us know in the comments!

[@Redmongoose-rdm]

Someone mentioned this Alfa vs a Bugatti.

[@joseolarte7424]

E63s AMG launched on RWD mode vs CT5 blackwing

[@joanfernandez7635]

Porsche turbo S Vs 🌎!!!

[@bjt81366]

Something that we don't know the results when we see the title. This was so boring. You guys know way more than we regular viewers so I can't understand why you would put these two completely different level cars on the same track. What's next, one of you guys are going to race Usain Bolt? 🤣

[@southerncomfort1339]

2024 CT5 V vs Acura type S

[@jp23x]

You guys racing a Bugatti against that giulia next?

[@roguedogx]

I am surprised it wasn't the CT4-V blackwing. that would have been a much better fit.

[@fredbloggs6080]

@@roguedogx That would be the more comparable size car contest. Have they done any comparisons or tests on that?

[@Freddy_Confetti]

@@roguedogxoh I guess you want to see the Alfa with the advantage huh

[@omidnamin9004]

Next Do Z06 vs a Honda Civic. I wonder what the results will be.

[@DriverJ-N]

Unless it got a laptop 😂

[@robsolf]

@@DriverJ-N "Nooooo! Danger to manifold!!!"

[@locominyana8916]

Mmmm....🤔.

[@alexanderovercash315]

What a terrible race to recommend…. The Civic will smoke the underpowered Corvette. A better suggestion is a John Deere tractor vs the Corvette. Now that will be a nail bitter😂😂😂

[@sufficetosay]

Cmon, I love this channel BUT.... Why the CT5 and not the CT4? AND WHY run launch control in the obviously faster car when the Alfa doesn't have it? Apples to oranges in more than one way!

[@mr.prestige9798]

Launch control won’t do crap when the black wing is putting a bus length between them

[@TennesseeFanatic1]

I don't get the match up at all. What's the point? The Caddy has close to 200 more horses. I like Allistair, but this is lame.

[@StrangeTimesNear]

Someone got paid in the pocket.

[@sufficetosay]

@@mr.prestige9798 It wouldn't have changed the result but it wouldn't have looked so lopsided.

[@clan2463]

@@mr.prestige9798you do realise the “bus length between them” is a result of the alfa spinning its wheels off the line

[@RBCCM_YT]

Next time please test a Rimac Nevera vs that Quad.

[@DevPack]

U know there is a CT4 which would be a direct competitor right...lol

[@tizodd6]

With a $45k price difference. I would hope it would win decisively. $45k is a whole car😂

[@josephspectre8810]

it has 153 hp more than the Alfa costs 48k more what the hell did you expect, i love both cars btw

[@CMUBruin]

Mismatch in every possible way…$86k vs $132k. Results are what they should be with that price difference.

[@mr.prestige9798]

132k??? Where are you getting that number lmao

[@mikemartin3204]

​@@mr.prestige9798price as tested , start of video

[@patrick-pv8cg]

​@@mr.prestige9798price as tested for the Blackwing is $132,410, as stated in the video...

[@jeannajem5631]

He must be Canadian!​@@mr.prestige9798

[@Xk1221]

@@mr.prestige97980:49 timestamp… not even a min in. Use ur eyes

[@93remix]

Uhhhh, I guess there wasn't a CT4-BLACKWING AVAILABLE?? I GAVE THIS A THUMBS DOWN!! WE ALL KNEW THE 668HP was the FAR SUPERIOR MACHINE

[@drewhiz7334]

thanks to Mary Barra, they've down marketed the CTS V replacement DESPITE it being the same car. That said, the inferior designed CT4 V blackwing is pitted against weaker cars unlike the ATS V, that it replaces, which is pitted against the M3/4 etc...Oh yes, the Alfa Romeo Quadrifolio was pitted against the ATS V but thanks to aforementioned downmarketing, smh...Oh GM lol fyi I have an ATS V lol..

[@norwegianblue2017]

The problem is that the Giulia QV falls in between the CT4 and CT5 Blackwings on price by about $20k. So neither model is really a "fair" comparison. But these are both flagship cars for the brand in this test.

[@9663mu]

Cry some more about it. Romeo is junk anyway

[@seanmcahill]

@@norwegianblue2017 The Alfa does fall between the CT4 and CT5 in price, but it is MUCH closer to a CT4 BW in performance. THAT would have been a good race, with the cheaper car having a legitimate chance to outperform the more expensive one. This wasn't a race - these cars aren't matched at all in performance, price, size, tech, or luxury. They just don't compete and don't make sense. As far a 'flagship' status, Maybe they should have compared the Alfa to an Acura NSX typeS or a BMW M5 Comp or M8 Comp - all flagships for their luxury brand. Does that make sense? Again, no, and for the same reasons. Also, there's no CT4 BW on the leaderboard - this would have been a great opportunity to add it!

[@Bimmer_Bill]

@@seanmcahillcorrect. Price isn’t always the way you compare vehicles. Cadillacs and all GM cars are cheaper than their European competitors. Fact is the Giulia is a ct4 competitor but we all know what would happen in that race. That grandma hauler would get trashed on the strip and on the track.

[@Bimmer_Bill]

Stupid pair. Giulia with a (turbo) 2.9 v6 and bw with a (supercharged) 6.2 v8 and the price isn’t even close either. Where’s the ct4 with their wheezy little v6? That’s the matchup.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

2024 CT4 BW is $61500 2024 Guilia Quadrifoligio is $81500 2024 CT5 BW is $95000 CT4 BW wouldn't have been a fair comparison. CT5 and Guilia are closer in price lol

[@tinleo333]

The Giulia also running worst tires.

[@GeronimoBiggles]

CT4 Blackwing even beats the Giulia on track. Multiple sources show this. Not sure why they chose the CT5 to embarrass it lol

[@V3Brandon]

Little? It's 3.6l. And like the S58 it responds very well to bolt ons and E.

[@bostongeorge2581]

​@@GeronimoBigglessure😂

[@OppAinor]

Maybe a CT-4 Blackwing instead?

[@ma7mgte]

No CT4-V Blackwing available?

[@gregmatson1470]

When the guy who can't drive wins by 10 bus lengths in the first race, you know you paired the wrong cars. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@shlumpgod]

No matter what, the giulia will always be the better looking car next to 95% of cars on the road

[@masoudmasoudi6534]

must be ct4 blackwing

[@euripidesroques6648]

Exactly, RWD M3 should be a good one too!

[@djeremyy]

I love these U-Drag videos, but this was just stupid. Did anyone on the production team say "You know, maybe we should do this with a CT4 V Blackwing instead of the CT5 because it directly competes with the Alfa?“

[@j.brandonsingh]

Is there a reason why this wasn’t the Alfa vs the CT4 Blackwing?

[@Kingofspades083]

CTS V awd vs Audi Rs7 is the more appropriate race

[@clutheq60]

Too bad there’s no awd v😞

[@clutheq60]

Cadillac said the car would be slower with AWD

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

It would be on a track with good conditions. But if it's wet AWD would be better ​@@clutheq60

[@user-yq6ov6ow7l]

@@clutheq60not in a track race. Pushrod v8’s are insane with awd.

[@TCraig00]

There's no more CTS-V and none of them had AWD so...

[@booniedavillier504]

I can't believe I'm watching the two cars I dream about getting every day no lie.. I manifest these two exact cars and I'm going to get them one day soon. This is a sign... Thank you for this video!!! God Bless!!

[@fredbloggs6080]

If it's the Quadrifoglio, you better hurry up, because 2025 is slated to be the last year it's produced. I'm not sure when the Cadillac his scheduled for its production end.

[@jaymac4448]

What was the purpose of this race? Must have been solely to add times to the board. 150hp and $45k difference in pricing. One built to racetrack performance. The other is just a basic high power sedan.

[@makko7275]

Both of them are good on the track

[@robsolf]

That's how productions like these work. You're not seeing Jay Leno's garage sitting back there. They have a handful of cars on hand at any given time, so you use what's available and try to make it entertaining.

[@WindyCity1992]

Remember the 720s vs Eray?? That wasnt remotely fair.

[@_ph4nt0mzz_47]

​@@WindyCity1992 womp womp

[@superchargedsteve3411]

This was dumb from the conception, why not use a CT4 Blackwing instead? Smh

[@bigb4279]

CT5-V vs Hellcat?

[@mr.prestige9798]

Pretty sure the V wins but idk

[@robsolf]

@@mr.prestige9798 Without superglue on the track... likely.

[@wbwayne8887]

Any U-Drag is better than no U-Drag, but as far as car match ups go, you guys have done far better in past races.

[@MYLGAMING12]

That Caddy, just talking during the shifts! Sounds so good, speak to ME!

[@nsu300zx]

Is there not a CT4 Blackwing around?

[@Jackson-son]

This Black wing is really a beast .. its Corvette engine

[@robsolf]

When people say that low volume enthusiast car projects like the Corvette are a waste of money, along comes stuff like this. That research trickles down.

[@Bimmer_Bill]

A giant supercharged v8 only making 660 hp? Pretty weak actually. Predator v8 and hellcat laugh at that 6.2 supercharged v8.

[@mr.prestige9798]

Actually it has its own engine separate from the corvette

[@cloudcity4194]

"It's foreign". NAILED IT. No matter how great a product GM put out, there will ALWAYS be an asterix and people choosing inferior non-US product. Is what it is...

[@SaveTheManuals1]

Not Edmunds fault but the Alfa was clearly down on power. With a trap speed well under the Z Nismo and Supra, it's pretty clear not all 505 horses were there to play. To be clear, it didn't stand a chance regardless against the CT5-V Blackwing but it was a bad showing for the Alfa.

[@urosvukov4948]

its rear wheel drive with no launch control. its not a bad showing, its a 10 year old car. these tests are quite stupid and childish. they have more relevance with 4wd cars.

[@SaveTheManuals1]

@@urosvukov4948 Low speed traction doesn't have much effect on trap speed. It definitely impacts E.T. but trap speed is mostly an indicator or power to weight ratio.

[@urosvukov4948]

@@SaveTheManuals1 i get that. i dont think it was gonna beat it even with a good launch....but a rolling start would have been a better showcase, or a lap around a track. someone made a comment about it being down on power...its exactly 505hp, and torque is understated by 30-40lbs/ft...so there is no world where a Z Nismo can be faster, unless the driver did something

[@robsolf]

3.9 to 60... remember when under 5 was impressive?

[@donwilber1628]

Yup, my '85 Vette was 6.0 and not much could keep up with it back in the day.

[@justme307]

I remember when 8.0 was impressive.

[@medat5101]

Was a fun time for you guys but not a good match. Glad to see exposure for the Qv!

[@Ganbala]

Brothers , Alfa QV owner here . 668 vs 505 horses 🐎 v6 659 vs 443 torque. V8 Ct5 is not the equal The correct car Is the ct4 blackwing to match the Giulia. The giulia is better car and has the Giorgio platform. The alfaromeo is first class with all aluminum body and my Engine is ferrari my car is exotic and unique. 👌...Cadillac is good but is not Alfa Romeo . Next time Ct4 blackwing vs QV

[@SiweLSiweL]

That Caddy is better than that Alfa in every way!!!!

[@jinso6100]

copium

[@larams61]

​@@SiweLSiweLAre you sure? Let's try on a twisty road. I'm sure it would be much closer.

[@darnells5900]

That cadillac will still win.

[@j.a.g.8689]

They do this so much you would think that they get better at driving, but they still have trouble taking that turn. Wild

[@TheDiskinsDoEverything]

The BRZ versus WRX was probably the best one of these I seen.

[@Ariel0607-b8p]

Ioniq 5 N vs the ct5 blackwing!!

[@justme307]

You like seeing the ct5 blackwing get blown away?

[@jponz85]

The N would beat it easily

[@Ariel0607-b8p]

@jponz85 check the list

[@triceratops6369]

They already did that

[@Food_n_Driver365]

The GQV is rewarding, fun, and cool. Yes indeed 💯

[@oamrxc92]

Jonathan is SUCHHH a dreamy when he drives AND wins

[@MarMPB]

Gorgeous cars! But when one of the competitors doesn’t have launch control, you should do a demonstration race to show what the launch control can do and if the gap is enormous like that, do the two official races whiteout the launch control to even thing out!

[@cbarber5366]

Id still want the Alfa more

[@karmahunden]

Give me an Elantra N 2024 Facelift DCT vs FL5 CTR. That's the race we all want to see.

[@19hundoc47]

Amen to that

[@prodnxbu]

When I clicked on this video I thought it was a CT4 V BW not a CT5, I'm a bit dissapointed because the CT4 BW is the direct competitor to the Giulia Quad along with a RWD M3

[@mochabear88]

great series

[@duanetheesfeld2958]

Great video. I had a Giulia Quad and want to move to a Blackwing, was just wondering what this would end up like

[@denshidirect3182]

Very odd matchup... Would at least be entertaining if they ran the CT5-V Blackwing without launch control.

[@sufficetosay]

My thoughts too!!

[@GalvatronTypeR]

This wasn’t a race, it was a demolition. Wrestling fans would call this a squash match. But you all yelling about “WHY NOT CT4-V!!!!” in the comments are missing the point. Car journalists can only access the cars in the review fleets, I blame GM more than Edmunds for not making this a more fair fight.

[@Celsoalexsilva]

My God. This Alfa, seen from the side, is absolutely gorgeous. 🍀🍀🍀

[@clubracer6]

Not sure if anyone else will mention it, so I will. You should have used the CT4V BW for this.

[@nintendoatarikiller]

CT5-V BW has cemented itself as a future classic with the 6MT. Alfa needs to bring the manual over before Stellantis kills off the brand.

[@_Chev_Chelios]

When you are recapping the numbers at the end, you should put which driver got the best numbers each time and have the guys explain why it’s almost always Jonathan.

[@luis-ciphermstar6597]

I mean, if the Alfa had 640hp, it would be a different race. The HP difference is well over a 100hp. I love both cars though. The Blackwing is a beast.

[@StelvioQuad]

A record for biggest gap with a 160 HP advantage seems pretty expected, and not much to brag about. And no mention of the crazy power advantage of the Caddy? It would be the same power advantage between a C8 and a C8 Z06, which anyone would wonder why would you ever think the base C8 would have a chance? It is crazy how close the Quad is at mid corner on the turn around after being so behind of having 160 less HP after a drag race. For journalism purposes, since the Quad was able to catch up so much during braking and cornering, it would amazing to do the same comparison but with a Quad WITH the ceramic brakes since indeed you could spec it that way from factory. I love my ceramic brakes on my Stelvio and why it was a must. Also, again for journalism comparison, a Quad with a tune 2 tune. It would still be down aboit 80 HP, but if a stock one is so close during the turn around a tuned Quad with around 100 more HP would be giving the Caddy a real run even still having a large power advantage. Also, would be neat to see these cars on an actual circuit to see a comparison between a muscle sedan with brand new tech and pretty fancy suspension compared to the decade old scalpel platform with a significant power disadvantage. The BW is a very special platform and the best from Caddy, I think being able to test a Quad that us also the best from the manufacturer and having the best factory brakes available since the BW is the best thing available from its manufacturer. I think the ceramic brake option on a sedan, and even an SUV, is a crazy feat from a manufacturer. I just watched a video off Tiff driving an F40 at a shop that makes a ceramic brake upgrade that still fits behind the small factory F40 wheel. They say they had like a 20% better stopping distance than the factory brakes. PLUS the advantage of consistent stopping performance with no heat fade. So the ceramic brakes are more than just a gimic or only good for doing multiple stops in a row. They remark a 20% shorter braking distance versus stock even before the stocks would be anywhere overheated. And the significant weight reduction in rotating mass to overcome. But thank you for the videos, it always nice to see any content still being made of cars that still suck down petrol and make sound. Also, it would be cool if right after the turn around there was a few cones in a row for a slalom test before the final drag to the finish in the car comparisons to add in more agility testing instead of just a couple drag races with just a 180 degree turn in the middle. I think hard braking after a drag, the a long sustained 180 followed by having to then make the car shift its weight the opposite way after the sustained turn (and back and forth through a short slalom) then a drag home to the finish would be very cool. Lastly, I think automotive journalists should do away with the "I don't know how to drive the car because it doesn't have launch control". Maybe they can just do some practice launches before rolling the camera? And then just mention it doesnt have launch control so it is all on me, but I have practiced a few times to helo give you the best viewer experience I can as an automotive journalist. So many complaints about new cars being too computer controlled, the so many reviewers complaining about cars NOT having computer aided assists. Such as Alfas not having launch control and also turning off the computer assists in Race mode. I think it is pretty cool Alfa (well, the amazing small group that designed the Quad) made it to where if you wanted to be in "party" mode with the loud exaust and the sharpest throttle and braking mapping you can't just drive around being a poser and have to drive with no driver aids.

[@johnathanmccants5812]

I wonder if the Giulia GTA would've faired any better?

[@fredbloggs6080]

I owned a 2017 Cadillac CTS-V, and currently own a 2019 Giulia Quadrifoglio. The CTS-V may have had even better performance than The Blackwing, which although it has about 25 hp more, and more torque, is also a couple hundred pounds heavier. Off the line there's no comparison, even without launch control, because of the supercharged engine compared to twin turbo, and it seems that the Quadrifoglio ZF transmission limits response off the line, although maybe not in race mode. They also should have disabled all the traction and stability control in the Cadillac to be comparable to the QV, if they can do that now. The CTS-V, with the Recaro racing seats (I don't know what the Blackwing has), loses in comfort, and also nimbleness, road feel, and steering response and feel. They are comparing the Cadillac to a car in a lower weight, size and power class. I think I also read that the Quadrifoglios from 2020 on are a little slower in acceleration, at least in some road tests, and they also changed the steering from 2 turns lock to lock to 2.2 turns, which may have no practical difference.

[@kirks06G35]

I see blackwing I click video, as an owner of the Ct4 V Blackwing I kept wondering why you didn't compare a 4 BW to the Giulia? As always thanks you

[@MichaelH-ck4hg]

I thought it would be a bit closer. I pretty much figured that the Alpha would lose, but that was a blowout.

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

I'd like to see a series where they hot-lap these things...not on their autocross course, but their test track. Not sure why they put a stop watch to everything BUT their actual race test track...

[@JCVACCARO]

With the Alfa Giulia currently the slowest selling car in the US you can get a great deal on one and it has a real soul. The Caddy however will demand a markup and that's a shame because it's also a great car.

[@legacy404]

Nice to see more Giulia content, and a great matchup indeed. I think with more practice in the QV, it should be a lot closer as mags usually get around 3.8-3.9 to 60 and 12.0 in the 1/4. Did you try warming up the tires/burnout first? The stock corsa's need to be very warm to grip. If you compare "best" quoted times in the 1/4, CT5VBW = 11.5 GQV = 11.8

[@ChiTwnKid96]

need to redo this with CT4-V Blackwing (472HP) or the non blackwing CT5-V (360HP)

[@davidpedwardsiii5581]

A lot of compensation through computation in the Blackwing

[@rrd1975]

After that mismatch, the Alfa Romeo driver gets served a nice cold dish of Gaper-roni. The Cadillac driver had to adjust his rear view mirror to keep the bright green Alfa in sight!

[@chrissawyer6034]

I'd like to see the blackwing go heads up with the CTSV.

[@geoffoakland]

You should have had them do lap times around a circuit, the Alfas lighter weight would make the competition a little more even

[@woggybot]

Do you ever look at the power to weight stats?

[@2cats1guy]

Why would you turn off traction control if you don’t have launch control?

[@HarryTwatter]

Car "enthusiasts" cry more than any group of people I've ever encountered

[@JVette01]

Im surprised no one is talking about the 113 trap speed... That is way too low for a 505hp car. It should be in the upper teens. Maybe the Guilia QV is one of those cars that loses a ton of power in the heat.. Either way, it would've lost, but something's definitely wrong. Fun race anyway!

[@amnlupiano]

I’m surprised you used the CT5-V and not the CT4-V. Yes, the CT4 would have still won, but it would have at least been a closer race.

[@latino914]

Ill take the Alfa Romeo QV anyday over the blue car

[@karlrohde9083]

Now compare the Giulia to the CT4V Blackwing.

[@timmietz]

Why don’t you guys have a 2025 CT5 V BW yet??

[@billshoe22191]

Damn didn’t realize the CT5 V BW was a $132k vehicle. That $40k plus difference is significant. This wasn’t even a race

[@TheFunkyair]

CT-4 is the right one

[@roguedogx]

Before watching - oh... tough match up. If I had to pick I would say the CT5 takes it. The alfa should do well almost everywhere, but so should the caddy, and the extra 100+ horsepower should allow it to pull ahead on the final straight. also, if it's the 10 speed auto, the Alfa stands no chance. I would rather owns the manual, but I believe the gap between the two transmission types is significant.

[@ericmackison9517]

I'm pretty sure you have to get some heat in the carbon ceramic brakes before they perform optimally. They are pretty useless unless you track it and have seriously deep pockets.

[@DreezyinaV]

Love the looks of the Alfa. That Verde color is fantastic....but we all know the answer its always going to be "Merica baby. BW for the win!!!

[@petermeister7191]

I really thought this would be more of a close-to-competition but man, what that LT4 just pulls insane and the Alfa suffers from it´s bad launch..

[@akshaysankarshana2405]

I have to call out the fact that this is an absolutely unfair comparison. The Giulia is an M3 competitor and the CT5-V Blackwing is an M5 competitor.

[@GabrieleGrande-u1o]

Giulia GTAm vs. CT5-V in Nürburgring! Oops. 🙋🏽‍♂️

[@dileepsaisharan9107]

Eyy another dumb drag race ftw! A much FASTER car compared to a SLOWER car. In any case, I will take the Italian anyday. More beautiful than the CT5 and has more soul in my opinion.

[@omarbarnett11]

I hate that yall keep showing the quad in bad light. It’s like 505-520 hp with no traction control whatsoever in its race mode.

[@luyismolina47]

Nice one

[@dieselstar5]

Run an AMG GT63S or a M5 Comp in place of that Alpha. It’d be so much more interesting.

[@67judge]

Can we do the Quad Stelvio verses something? 😊 Like the Jag SVR.

[@martinalejandro5848]

Who's matching the cars. It's doing a mediocre job

[@WindyCity1992]

Everybodys upset about this episode , yet i recall the Eray going up against a certain car that makes 700 whp & weighs 800 ibs less 😂😂 . Doesn't sound fair. Yet comments were praising the 720s

[@pontiachotshot]

Ok let’s make this more even ! CTS has to remove the SC belt and run the Alfa again.

[@scottsmith4804]

I can see the pain in Jonhathans face that he's not in a BMW. Rename the channel to BMW's only and get back to what makes cucs happy!

[@batcomdevice]

You know what could be fun?.. A Lucid air vs a Nissan Leaf

[@neorodriguez81]

I would love to see this race in an actual race track instead of drag race im sure the Alfa would have done way better considering the Alfa is a v6 and the Cadillac is a v8.

[@EricWard-l6u]

Little disappointed in the fact that throughout the course, you guys were extolling the virtues of the Cad, but no mention of the 168hp advantage! Let alone the torque.

[@whiteshadowBH]

Unfair comparison, V8 vs V6 !! 2.9 tc vs 6.2 sc !!

[@jamesmurray1941]

Welp, the Blackwing sounds incredible.

[@grp5ltdot2024]

Now try with a 6 speed ct5-v blackwing the thing with no lift shift can beat the auto :)

[@BenTroxell]

Keep ruining the results in the intro 😂

[@justme307]

Quit complaining and watch another channel. Or start your own.

[@robsolf]

Anybody that would watch already knows the result.

[@Banksman25]

The U-Drag is an awesome concept like a REALLY good 3 in 1. But you gotta do better with the match ups. Keep it up but do better💙

[@FrenchCanuck]

A better comparison would have been the Cadillac CT4-V Blackwing vs. Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio!

[@Epalacios87]

Is that Crows Landing, California abandoned air base

[@Infamousdee240]

Alfa usually run 3.6 & 11.9-12.0 in the quarter so surface is the blame but it would’ve lost either way

[@pigeonpoo1823]

I think I'd like a...... A) extra 200hp B) a 4 second head start😂