U.S. Air Force MC-130J Commando II executes the first-ever-European-theater JASSM Live Fire

[@cristiandemirel1918]

Glad to see the Airforce is still using VHS cassettes to record their live fire demonstrations.

[@longnamedude3947]

I am not sure how far away they were but I do agree that the video feed quality was pretty bad considering what a smartphone can do these days at just $250....

[@My-Pal-Hal]

OH GIVE ME A BREAK DUDE. Everyone knows you don't get the good video. Without that $19.95 a month subscription fee 😂

[@longnamedude3947]

@@My-Pal-Hal Damn, I've been paying $24.99 a month for mine, clearly I must be getting $25 of nothing lol Edit: In case it wasn't clear as day..... /s

[@erfho8y]

Looll, underrated comment 🤣🤣

[@horatio321]

The trials are filmed from Electro Optical Trackers (EOT's) from many miles away. So imagine the results of attempting to film the trial from 20+ miles away with even the best camera. You'd see nothing at all. Also, these images are often filmed using thermal/infrared sensors. They don't make for a great cinematic experience - but you know where stuff is in space and time, and when things happen - sufficient to produce the required truth data.

[@zulgadams5837]

Not sure what the hell i just watched, but it was awesome!

[@pauldacus4590]

Thank God the military found a way to reuse the cameras that were on Apollo 11.

[@understandingunderstanding4880]

God ain't got nothing to do with mankind self destructive behavior...

[@MusicalMemeology]

Don’t exactly want to give the enemy 4K resolution when low res will do the job and no give away any secrets.

[@TheSingofKwords]

That was the funniest Apollo 11 comment I have ever heard.

[@BainesAdam]

I've used the cameras from the moon. In Civilian life they were RCA-TKP45s. 3 tube colour cameras. It was the shitty black and white camera at Parkes Radio telescope shooting the monitor that screwed it up.

[@Reblwitoutacause]

@@understandingunderstanding4880 made in "his image" Ever read the old testament? I think you underestimate the old man upstairs.

[@Medieval_Pheasant]

For those in need of explaining, this is worlds first declassified stealth missle warship killer. Jassm

[@jagsidhu4559]

Jizzem on the Chinese

[@John-100]

Didn't look all that stealthy to me.

[@Medieval_Pheasant]

@@John-100 okay well..some further explaining is needed..your looking at the first missle system to carry stealth outer armor tech like you see on stealth bombers and raptor fighters. What also is different and makes this missle unique is its hypersonic speed and distance from surface of ocean. Making it almost impossible to stop.

[@brandonagles9146]

@@Medieval_Pheasant Hypersonic? As in, hypersonic-capable? There's no way that test was conducted with the JASSM traveling at hypersonic speeds. I admit, I'm not familiar with this platform, though...

[@Medieval_Pheasant]

@@brandonagles9146 it's top speeds are classified, even the Abrams tanks have classified weapons systems

[@p.a.reysen3185]

I can just imagine Slim Pickens riding one of these down to the release point!

[@christopherstone2691]

Goin toe to toe in (non)Nucloor combat with the ruskies YeeHaw!

[@qd88]

Stop worrying and love the bomb.

[@markbowles2382]

"..... what happened to Maj. Kong?"

[@billyelliot4141]

The weapon is not lost. It knows where it is..

[@danthe360man]

Jim pickens

[@conchfritters01]

Love the C-130 in the bomber role. Nothing that plane can’t do! (maybe not 9g turn)

[@josephtorres3229]

It's shit. I know having served.

[@ohmygodpleasehalp3984]

*C-130 disintegrating as I try pulling 9gs coming out of a steep dive *”THERE’S A HOLE IN YOUR LEFT WING”*

[@KlipsenTube]

Fly supersonic 🫣

[@Redman147]

Where's Mav when you need him to bend an air frame....

[@throngcleaver]

Well, technically, it can do just about anything... once. 😉

[@TheBeefSlayer]

Halfway through the video, “Where is the Kaboom??? There was supposed to be an Earth shattering Kaboom?”

[@joegagnon2268]

As a Canadian I love living next to the greatest fighting force in history but America is much more a light of hope in a dark world that makes me feel we’re gonna be fine

[@always_markb]

That is very sweet. We here in America are terribly sad bc of all the division and political bickering. War fatigue. Political fatigue. Social fatigue. Sometimes it is easy to only see how messed up we are.

[@Spyderz-xo9rz]

The greatest fighting force huh.Im also Candian and we see the Americans very differently. What about the Korean War Vietnam? , Afghanistan? America poured tons amounts of money into these wars and guess what did not win any of them.Not only did they pour ton of money and resources America had the advantage of air power and guess what still could not win.So to say America is the greatest they are far from it my man .They are great at one thing it's putting people in jail.

[@hanshans8612]

Now we need Canada to help foot the bill to protect you.

[@always_markb]

@@hanshans8612 ? Um, what? Are you sure you are informed on the topic of which you speak? I'll give you minute to read up, but if make another mindless post like this you may be a little embarassed.

[@Cola64]

Once the Chinese Navy starts its trek towards the USA thats when Canada will start theirs across the northern boarder

[@camcamwatt]

Those sensors and cameras are incredible, im a professional filmmaker and the way they tracked them in that light condition was impressive.

[@admthrawnuru]

The missile is new and expensive and high tech... The camera we're watching it on appears to be from the 70s

[@TheVineOfChristLives]

the proof of concept for the use case of this is crazy af. Scaled up, this would scare tf out of any actor in an operational theater.

[@jstephenallington8431]

At 1.2 million dollars a shot, this thing better be able to do alot more than just blow up a dingy bobbing about in the water.

[@thelonewrangler1008]

Is that how much they really cost?🤯 Kinda dumb that all you have to do is target a slow moving c130 to counter such an advanced weapon

[@budatx09]

Do you really think the US govt is really gonna care about the price of one bomb? They will throw anything to sink whatever they see as a threat.

[@zrandom4896]

Scalability and Rapid solutions. This and the harvest hawk idea . The ability to rapidly go from cargo aircrAft to a weapons delivery platform. And it cAn definitely do more

[@nohphd]

@@thelonewrangler1008 - The whole idea is to utilize a cargo aircraft that is out of detection range or shoot down range of the targeted ship. The cruise weapon is programmed with the current coordinates of the target. The package is launched at a safe stand-off distance by the C-130. The cruise missile activates and dives down close to the ocean surface surface where it’s difficult to detect by the targeted ship.

[@28th_St_Air]

Yeah they should at least invite some uninformed F18 pilots to the area so they can film tic tacs and regain some revenue from the KZbin UFO video views. 😊

[@CitiesTurnedToDust]

Half the commenters here completely missed the several points here of flexible delivery platform, pinpoint accuracy, volume of drones, and much more. I've rarely heard so many absurd comments.

[@benroberts8363]

They have small brain

[@greggcosta811]

Nitpicking

[@kentkloman48]

if you freeze the video at about 3:52 you can see four "missiles" in the crate. Can someone explain please. Did the video not show just one missile launch?

[@gordonpromish9218]

the Herc, like the Buff (and the DC3 before them), just keeps on performing.

[@jacksons1010]

The DC-3 is *_still_* performing, renewed with turboprops.

[@BigEvil99]

well, we know the military definitely isn't using our money to upgrade their quality in picture, because holy shit i almost had an aneurism trying to watch this.

[@GWAYGWAY1]

Glad to see the contractors still able to devise more ways of extracting more money from the people.

[@FOH3663]

Yep ... I'll give them credit, it's creative.

[@shrodingers1]

And from what I hear, the reason Jullian Assage will always be a fugitive from American retribution.

[@SpaceRanger187]

Yup,but yet the can't back Veterans all the money they are owed.

[@dichebach]

I see you Putin bots are getting active again. Last ditch effort to save the boss from falling out a window?

[@FOH3663]

@@dichebach Putin, doing his best Bryan Cranston/Walter White; " ... me, fall out a window? Never! ... 𝙄 𝙖𝙢 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝘿𝘼𝙉𝙂𝙀𝙍".

[@bmwlane8834]

As a former C-130 loadmaster...this is awesome! Nice extraction vid from inside.

[@bakkerem1967]

From C-130 to B-130 and back in a few minutes... Chapeau to the versatility of the platform ! Darwin was right. Only the most versatile will survive.

[@trex2092]

I saw what you did there. Like it. Retired USCG HC-130 Loadmaster / Dropmaster

[@wtfover4931]

Is this weapon a response to the ICBM that can be carried and launched from a commercial container ship?

[@kc_was_here737]

Is this system better than already existing systems? Seems hugely complicated and complex to do something a harpoon or other standoff weapon can do already.

[@dichebach]

Redundancy and diversity of operational constraints and opportunities is a good thing.

[@kc_was_here737]

@Diche Bach sure. Eventually the return on investment isn't worth it.

[@barneymm2204]

Last I heard, the climb phase of the harpoon, after launch, yields an intercept solution, unless they fixed it. I think the Neptunes (or whatever the Ukr variant is named) is harder to intercept.

[@nguyep4]

I think it is the flexibility that the aircraft can fly to the target area much quicker than a ship and with more load capacity than a jet and further.

[@benitosalazar3749]

It means they can use an 70 year old transport plane as a cruise missile carrier. They just multiplied the number of aircraft that can strike enemy targets from afar and C-130s are plentiful.

[@enriquetorres360]

Straight game changer ....especially in the pacific warship hunters

[@thatotherguy7596]

I love the squiggly grey and white lines, and the white specks were pretty cool too, especially when they were all clustered together and then spread out. 😁

[@marcalvarez4890]

You, Sir, are a potato connoisseur .

[@jimbarnard12345]

Did they make it blurry to hide certain info?

[@thatotherguy7596]

@@jimbarnard12345 I'm sure they did. I'm a potato connoisseur, so I should know 😁🥔 Slava Ukraini 💙🇺🇦💛

[@markone9859]

@@jimbarnard12345 Not on purpose. They probably accidentally used the same camera settings everyone uses when they're videoing UFO's. 😆

[@demonfox0958]

Naw, more like they had to degrade the footage in order to upload it to YT.

[@SeqK]

Is this Rapid Dragon?

[@demonfox0958]

One of the best aircraft ever built. Ive jumped out of plenty! They showed the Norwegian flag at the end. I wonder if they launched out of Andoya air base for this test? Im guessing these guys are from 352nd SOG out of RAF Mildenhall. Those badass crews expertly flew through hours of flak and missiles to get our teams into northern Iraq in 2003.

[@eggstatic2435]

Thank you for your service 🇺🇸

[@-108-]

My favourite uncle was killed in one that inexplicably crashed on approach, so you'll have to forgive me for not echoing your sentiments about the aircraft.

[@leneanderthalien]

@@-108- first C130 had some weak points like structural issues (2of them loss both wings), but crash at landing was always human errors

[@jerrywhite4497]

Very loud inside, the ringing was unbelievable...! I also remember the CH46 & CH53 were also extremely loud. They didn't give Marines earplugs back then. USMC 71-75.... Thanks for sharing

[@-108-]

@@leneanderthalien Not true about crash on landing. My uncle's C-130 went down on final due to a malfunction of the avionics system.

[@whowhoMikeJones]

You just turned cargo planes into strategic bombers they've been wanting to do this since the eighties

[@jasonmusic9938]

i think the ac-130 gunships have had hellfires that they can launch of of the bottom of the tail for a while now

[@scarecrow108productions7]

@@jasonmusic9938 I think you got it the other way around, Hellfires can be launched from the racks attached to the wings, while Griffin Missiles can be launched from the back.

[@krizzle4087]

When hundreds of C-130's can easily become stealthy cruise missile platforms any opponent is going to have especially bad time.

[@todwarner9207]

Might become a bad time for all of our C-130’s when our enemies can claim they are missile platforms instead of humanitarian aid.

[@krizzle4087]

@@todwarner9207 I don't see that as a realistic scenario...the C-130s won't fly anywhere dangerous without escorts.

[@JamesJoyce12]

@@krizzle4087 armed drones can loiter for two days 1,000's of km from their home base

[@krizzle4087]

@@JamesJoyce12 2 day endurance for armed drones? No. Also, they cannot carry the same payload as a C-130. No drone can carry JASSM currently.

[@JamesJoyce12]

@@krizzle4087 per your comment dude - the drone can shoot down the C-130 and yes there are many drones that can loiter for 48 hours and longer - eg the Gray Eagle - you clearly know nothing that you are talking about

[@sbgrimsson]

Is this they used on Nord Stream?

[@bobfish3176]

Does it work on pipelines?

[@ddrowdy7666]

that's a different toy.

[@stuarthamilton5112]

A lot of ignorant comments here from people who have no clue how this works. This is Rapid Dragon. Usually cruise missiles have to be launched from bombers or boats. The former have to use weapons designed for their bomb bays, and the latter have to return to port or have missiles flown to them for reloading. This is a palletized weapon. It can be deployed by any cargo aircraft in the US inventory. It can be deployed anywhere on the planet on extremely short notice. We no longer need to worry about where our navy is to launch a mass cruise missile attack. Now, we can have these things available around the clock and in very large numbers. These are designed for swarm attacks. This isn’t like the 1990s where you get news the US launched a few Tomahawks. No, these are launched in large numbers, from squadrons of C-130s or any other heavy lift aircraft, even commercial. They can be used to overwhelm air defenses as decoys for F-35s flying Wild Weasel sorties. And all without putting a single guided missile destroyer in harm’s way, and for much cheaper. That’s why this is a big deal, and why China and Russia should be examining their belly buttons for a while.

[@mikeh.753]

Well, Rapid Dragon works and works very well. Now every C-17 and C-130J is a force muliplier. Talk about a game changer. The concept started decades ago with 747's carrying cruise missiles. And has evolved into this. I guess the C-17 can now be designated C/B-17. Along with the many many C-130's . Wow, this is good news and bad new , this could put the air Force under pressure to retire the B-52H bombers. I understand that these C-17 don't have the electronic defense hardware that a buff has but now it's just a matter of time before they will have the electronic suite that the B-52H has. The latest engines on these new aircraft like the C-17 create vast amounts of electrical power, so supplying the needed power for powerful counter measure hardware is just a few billion dollars and some major modifications away. Yet still imagine the amount of cruise missiles that could be launched by a fleet of air craft modified to carry these modules on board. And the re arming turn around is just a forklift away with some target updating while heading to the target drop area.

[@donarthiazi2443]

The same targets could be simultaneously attacked by a modified Ohio class submarine that releases 154 tomahawks from a different direction. That's a bunch of striking power. Edit: And a Carrier Alpha strike coming over this horizon to attack whatever few vessels survived. Some or even many tomahawks would be shot down, but there are different scenarios where nothing would be afloat after all was said and done. And without nukes

[@Coxman]

@@donarthiazi2443 And then you could also have a squadron of B2'S or B21's loitering near the enemies defensive air zone, and can do the same thing as the subs. Imagine a triple punch like this on an enemy and imagine if that attack was simultaneous? There's a country in Asia who is is just ripe for this kind of bombardment. If it's ever needed of course.

[@donarthiazi2443]

@@Coxman I couldn't agree more Mr Edwards.

[@atrocious_pr0xy]

You mean to have an AC-130 with these as a payload?! That's a flying fortress! Add in a drone swarm and it's a Mothership!

[@ericwieboldt7042]

This was pointless. All of these planes and long range helicopters are absolutely useless. If the russian/Ukraine war has taught us anything, it's that we either bomb eachother into oblivion from great distances or rely on gods favorite children, the infantry. Also, who the hell is gonna clean up the trash that we just dumped into the sea

[@Dorpers89]

I can literally watch my taxes get blown up... click

[@garryjones7893]

Strategically, JASSAM and The Land of Oz go together like strawberries and whipped cream. Look at a map and note all the choke points north of Australia, then note our heavy emphasis on reconnaissance, cargo and aerial refueling aircraft. JASSAM and AUKUS will solidify Australia's status as the Big Dog in Australasia and Oceanus. The Chinese will have a conniption when they fully realize they have been snookered so far as their planned expansion into the Indian Ocean and the SouthWest Pacific.

[@Fogaata]

What the heck is a conniption??? :-)

[@garryjones7893]

@@Fogaata A fit of rage or hysterics.

[@Andrew-13579]

Now, if Australia only had a few fully armed Trident subs as deterrent to roam the vast South Pacific and Indian Oceans. I think the USN might have some spares.

[@camcamwatt]

Interesting observant. Great use of Conniption too :)

[@JunkMailBoxStuff]

Somebody bring a net. Hey Clem, Chaie Ray, and Bobbie Jo -- forget the dynamite.💥 This is hillbilly fishing 🐟 at it's best!

[@JASHJustASectionHiker]

Had no idea what to expect.

[@garysteinert8040]

How do they fly without ski’s? VXE 6.

[@Welsh_YETI]

This looks like what those pilots might have been witnessing with the footage of then tracking what they thought was a UFO

[@mrwayne5158]

I know what your stating but no it is not

[@ashemgold]

Legend has it that the other three are still seeking dates with destiny.

[@limosalimosa]

I saw a crate with 4 items (missiles, torpedos, drones?) being dropped from de C130, and only one flying and exploding. Are you sure this mission was a success??

[@damkayaker]

- It was deceit. No target was hit. Simply set off a floating mine on the surface. Video was cut while tracking missile at 2:34 then comes back zoomed in on nothing, no target, no missile at 2:47 ripple from exploding mine. If this was a real test there should have been a surface target (ship) .... MIC criminals robbing the taxpayers. Or the MIC will give this to the Chinese so "they" can destroy the super carriers.

[@swiMClub7]

definitely a 4 pack. think of: (2) 4 packs per run...

[@bruceringrose7539]

I doubt there were four live units in the crate, the other three were very likely dummies to simulate weight and drag conditions. Despite what many like to believe, the military is not that dumb or wasteful.

[@strayedarticle2838]

It'll probably cost taxpayers billions for them to get this right. Their primary goal is to spend money.

[@limosalimosa]

@@bruceringrose7539 makes sense

[@josesandoval7263]

Was that a submarine?

[@evrydayamerican]

This is called The Rapid Dragon system which is freaking awesome 👌🏼

[@darkh0st]

This is the correct answer.

[@mikebaker1555]

Cool name. Prolly a china jab since this weapon only makes sense in the Pacific

[@BaronBoar]

Is this that air dropped balloon something or other missile system? Like high atmosphere missile deployment system. I read about it.

[@dr.j5642]

Yeah its called Rapid Dragon

[@BaronBoar]

@@dr.j5642 yes. That's the one.

[@ddrowdy7666]

I like how to launch the weapon you just casually toss the chute out the back door...."this looks about close enough, toss her out"

[@beltfed4624]

That was exactly what I was thinking. "They just launch off a system like this by some dude chucking a chute out the drop gate?" Seems a little old fashioned, I suppose. Can you imagine this being the case with the Enola Gay dropping the Hiroshima load back in the day?

[@CarnesSurefire]

Sounds primitive but it allows the platform to be used by many cargo planes without special integration work

[@colmwhateveryoulike3240]

Pardon the silly question but what's the word "theatre" mean in this context please?

[@menadrot.escueta5900]

The US armed forces should pursue and improve this capability.... Keep po it up American firepower .....

[@tomsherwood4650]

I was looking for a "target". I played it back over and over looking for the ship, or even boat. Or floating buoy. Maybe a seagull?

[@ddrowdy7666]

They cut it out, probably to hide that it makes a sharp turn just before impact, makes it look like a off target decoy instead the primary weapon.

[@gilbertbarraganjr941]

Damn, where's that missile coming from space??

[@markcook2980]

I was told it makes coffee as well at 1.2 million per shot.

[@boondockduane]

Who picks up the parachute array and it’s lines? Hate to hit that with my trawler or fishing nets.

[@pauliewalnuts240]

Youll run into one of the thousands of fishing nets adrift before you encounter a millitary parachute.

[@boondockduane]

@@pauliewalnuts240 I do constantly. And chutes will be next. Yes I’m 100% militants it’s weapons but it this is ridiculous even for patrol boats, Water intakes on a destroyer just thinking of it in reality

[@ddrowdy7666]

It said it was at some target range near Norway, probably not allowed to fish in that area.

[@c123bthunderpig]

They certainly are not dolphin free.

[@Rogdub]

what's the advantage of this?

[@eloidor988]

That explosion hurts my wallet sooooo damnnnnn much. The parachutes and the case holding the missiles should be around 100k.

[@GWAYGWAY1]

That is what the military/industrial complex is all about, profit to them that is never ending all the time they are at war or practicing for one.

[@Cola64]

Why do you think the IRS went on a hiring spree 🇺🇸

[@dichebach]

Any idea how much more your wallet would be hurting if we lose?

[@GWAYGWAY1]

@@dichebach”” WE”” should not have been there since 2014 after having a coup done there to destroy the democratic government and put the Nazi party in power there 14000 ethnic Russians killed since then by the Azors and they have been shelling and bombing the Donbas since then. The UK (us) and the US have been pouring trouble into the country and paying billions and billions to the Fascists to terrorise the civilians until Russia moved in. All so the powers of the WEF/NWO can destroy the western economies, of the EU in NATO and the UK. The powers of Zionism are in control and pulling the power levers using theUS and putting the Western Media into overdrive to do the Covid lies , now a war, next the big culling during the winter from cold and hunger.

[@speedracer2336]

Hell we are almost 35 trillion in debt, at least the military is getting some of it.

[@TheGnue]

So that's 4 missiles per drop.. And what 5 units in cargo Bay?? 20 units hot drop on enemy fleet Damn

[@mhughes1160]

Dang that was good shooting …………. They hit the ocean 🌊 . LoL 😂

[@jeffmiller903]

What happened to the other 3 ?

[@christopherpeninger324]

I love it when a plan comes together!

[@chibs1963]

Could use a few of these off Sevastopol, right now.

[@xm15ar]

Would it not just be simpler to launch those out of or off the wing of a conventional bomber? Seems to me anyway that a C130, while versatile is not very fast and mostly defenseless to use for bombing runs. I would think that a B1 or even a B2 might be a better choice. Just asking.

[@brianfoley4328]

Well, yes...but your B-1's maybe doing something else...and...the bad guys just might be keeping an eye out for the B-1's...plus the more varied and numerous the launch platforms the more difficult it is for the bad guys to counter. Think of American football, "stretching" the defense allows the offense to do more things and increases the chances the defense makes an error....and MC-130's probably cost less than B-1's...and think of this as an "evolutionary step" that leads to all kinds of cargo aircraft being able to convert to launchers with little or no conversion needed...Yeah, this is a game changer no doubt.

[@tonyc7352]

I can see how you might think that, but, maybe the part you're missing is the idea is to drop racks containing multiple missiles. So a cargo plane can carry dozens of missiles. This is just a test with a single missile.

[@christopherstone2691]

@@tonyc7352 Hey guys it’sa stand-off. Weapon designed to be deployed outside the range & detection of an adversary.

[@spanishpeaches2930]

@@brianfoley4328 Who the bad guys are is indeterminate these days.

[@tonyc7352]

@@christopherstone2691 yes, that too.

[@Zalthook5048]

That's impressive

[@bjm1711]

Some of that footage reminded me of the “Go Fast” video reported as being a UFO by US navy?

[@kevjhnsn]

With rapid deployment and surgical strike capability like this, it seems like a shot across the bow for anyone trying to hide on a mega yacht. . . Just sayin’.

[@Unknown15916]

That would be one of Jeff Beso's yachts - or yacht inside a yacht.

[@Madmaxxxx1984]

Or a Nimitz class aircraft carrier.

[@Madmaxxxx1984]

Just saying.

[@SteveeCee]

Could it be deployed in the English channel?

[@tomsherwood4650]

Rather expensive way to do it. English longbows would work there.

[@jameswilliams9655]

That generated quite a shock wave when it detonated.

[@markone9859]

Quite a bit more sophistication in that "MC-130J" since the days they were hauling us around in the C-130 Hercules in my South East Asia days. In the old C-130, you were either way to warm or way to cold. They'd alternate from heat off the engines to give you some relief and almost fry you and then turn it off until you were about to shiver. Imagine taking a shower with hot water coming out of one pipe and cold out of another at the opposite end of the shower. 🙃

[@1yachtcarpenter]

Good times . Thanks for your service.

[@chrisvesy7245]

Sounds like my ex...Hot one minute then colder than ice the next....🥰😡

[@Cola64]

I would figure the time spent in the jungle or fighting Charlie would be more memorable than flying in a tin can

[@Evergreen1400]

@@chrisvesy7245. Perfectly describes my ex. She would go from dropping to her knees to slurp me up in the kitchen while I put dishes away to walking around the house for 5 days without saying a word to me.

[@FarmerStatesman]

@@Evergreen1400 if you and Chris Vesy share a photo... "Whoa... no f'ing way!"

[@Orcaben1]

Great camera quality

[@driverjeff1498]

Pretty cool. Those things are so small and fast. If an aircraft carrier had these and could launch and retrieve 10 or 20 at a time. Like a swarm of bees.

[@83btm]

What advantage would a carrier bring? JASSM is specifically air-launched. Carriers are already quite capable of launching their own cruise missiles...I'm not following your analogy. I see this weapons system as a potential giant leap towards making carriers obsolete, honestly.

[@hobanagerik]

Very large, pissed off bees.

[@throngcleaver]

Cruise missiles don't have landing gear, and the last thing you want coming back to the boat is a live cruise missile.

[@driverjeff1498]

What I mean is an aircraft carriers with small drones like this. That could swarm out and then come back.

[@throngcleaver]

@@driverjeff1498 Gotcha. The drones would have to be big enough to carry some sort of weapon system, like bombs, rockets, or small missiles, like the current UAVS that the Navy has fielded. A swarm of small drones would have to be suicidal kamikazes with an effective warhead on them, and therefore not need to come back and land. I guess it all depends on the mission parameters, and what the targets are, along with what future weapons will be developed. A swarm of small drones that could each carry a pair of small diameter bombs, might work out for certain target types.

[@fredorman2429]

I’m not sure what I’ve just viewed.

[@darrelldog5]

These things are awesome! I believe the plan when they come online, is to shoot five simultaneous projectiles at the same time... And somehow avoid hitting each other on the way out... Lol. They turn a cargo plane into an offensive bomber, with zero reconfiguration... Absolutely Amazing!

[@JathTech]

I believe the pod can hold 9, and they can have up to 3 pods in each c130, for a total of 27 cruise missiles per plane. 1000 air planes are planned to be using them. If China goes up against this, they'll be dealing with 27,000 cruise missiles in the first volley. Edit, it's actually 6 per pod which would bring it to 12 per plane (2 pods per plane) making it 12,000 missiles.

[@rvnmedic1968]

They better have fighter aircraft to accompany and protect them.

[@JathTech]

@@rvnmedic1968 they will probably have forward deployed overwatch that includes F22s and F35s, +AWACS. The missiles should be deployed far enough away that any counter attack would either come too late, or be out of range.

[@barneymm2204]

One out of two or three successful?

[@bgorveatt]

I was waiting for an earth shattering kaboom!! Isn't that why we use rocket power so we don't have to use this type of deliver.

[@ericwieboldt7042]

You're absolutely correct. We just watched a caveman crack open a bone with a rock

[@markone9859]

@@ericwieboldt7042 Good lord . . there you go with the same ol' caveman analogy again.

[@ericwieboldt7042]

@@markone9859 hey it's the guy who imagines magical rocks that travel through the jungle seeking out bones to crack. Hang it up troll💩

[@markone9859]

@@ericwieboldt7042 lol

[@ericwieboldt7042]

@@markone9859 that's what I said

[@dieselscience]

Looks like it started as a bundle of four...

[@Sophocles13]

Haha imagine a C5-A Galaxy with like 10 pallets in the back 0.o

[@scarecrow108productions7]

I mean, the Galaxy launched a missile once... an unarmed Minuteman ICBM.

[@richardbailey3343]

Are they jdams?

[@georgegeorgakopoulos5956]

In nato updates we Trust

[@karipaturketo5438]

We have the warzone experts in the chat. Calling in drone strikes..😆😆

[@saschaesken5524]

Stop Ocean pollution instantly

[@jerrygraslie2023]

What is the range of the missile and isn't the C-130 kind of an easy, large, slow target?

[@1.21Gigawatts_]

The plane stays out of range. They release the missiles out of enemies range and turn around back to base

[@user-oi4tj4pp8q]

Its a great trick as only the USA, Russia and China really have long range bomber capabilities.. with this system one could potentially turn every cargo plane with European and asian allies into long range bombers and increase the number of planes by 4 digits

[@Triggernlfrl]

Must be a American wet dream a sky full of bombers....

[@m118lr]

My initial ‘guess’ is THIS ‘JASSM’ beats A DRONE WITH A HELLFIRE..in cost per use?

[@jamesdrew1168]

I wonder if it works on undersea pipelines?

[@totenfurwotan4478]

🤔

[@limogesfarmer6326]

Good question. The short answer: No. This isn't an air launched torpedo. Torpedoes fall into the water, then their propulsion system kicks in. Torpedoes have extremely strong shells to keep the water out and to withstand the impact with the water. These shells weigh a lot... Missiles have a different design: unless they are the ground penetrating kind, they are kept light so they can go further and faster with the same amount of fuel. If you are already airborne, then there is no reason to go under water: the speed of the missile would be greatly reduced. These weapons are designed to attack targets on land and water, but not underwater.

[@jamesdrew1168]

@@limogesfarmer6326 Dude, it was a rhetorical question. Commentary on the recent destruction of the Russian pipeline.

[@limogesfarmer6326]

@@jamesdrew1168 You wondered, I answered. I see no issues of social discourse rules. 😂

[@jamesdrew1168]

@@limogesfarmer6326 A little pedantic for KZbin.

[@davidpowell6098]

A cluster of four were launched out of the plane, what happened to the other three?

[@Cola64]

Couldn’t afford the fuel

[@gr3yh4wk1]

Suspect they were ballast items for the test - possibly so the cargo pallet doesn't do something unexpected with an uneven load. Thats just a guess.

[@luckypuppa4950]

Why are the most advanced and expensive cameras in the world worse than my viatar I want my money back

[@Gypsum179]

Because the camera you see is capable of getting more than adequate footage in a variety of situations and environments while simultaneously interfacing with millions of dollars of avionics.

[@whirltech8031]

What @raff said, and the footage may have been intentionally degraded. Tip your hand, but don't show all the cards...

[@cannonfodder6299]

@@Gypsum179 also just how long it takes to design, build, test and then finally deploy the technology, means that it is outdated by current civilian standards before its actually fielded.

[@Gypsum179]

@TryNDoxMe The cameras we are discussing do not destroy things.

[@franzrazzetti]

Why the 4-barrel launcher tho?

[@the-zilla]

Awesome

[@lovelessissimo]

No buoy is safe now.

[@virgil6873]

So that's how they blew up the Nord Stream gas pipes

[@kevinp6823]

Thinking same 😁

[@lylestavast7652]

So you're saying the Russians have C-130J ?

[@andresbElSerBiologico]

Goofs at bay.

[@333BlkFlagg]

Great job gents!

[@j0m4m46]

C-130 could probably carry 4 of those, imagine what a C-17 could carry or a C-5.

[@aethelon4144]

A C-17 can carry 5 pallets, each of them carrying 9 missiles for a total of 45 cruise missiles with 1000-2000km range depending on type. A C-130 carries 2 pallets of 6 missiles for a total of 12 cruise missiles

[@c123bthunderpig]

The bombs hit the target the the cargo aircraft bet shot out of the sky and explode with them.

[@richardpark3054]

Why not launch the missile from an underwing pylon or from the bomb-bay of a bomber?

[@sirzebra]

Because it's way too big to fit on pylons, and you'd loose a lot of space to fill a B1 bay for only a few missiles. +They are not designed to be launched, but dropped. The idea is that you can have dozens of cargo planes potentially carrying those, hence interdicting a vast zone with a swarm of missiles from safe very high altitudes. Low level bombers already exist, this is another way to potentially destroy a whole fleet detachment with minimal risk, and is much cheaper to scale up than actual bombers.

[@richardpark3054]

@@sirzebra Per Wikipedia: "The JASSM may be carried by a wide range of aircraft: the F-15E; F-16; F/A-18; F-35; B-1B; B-2; and B-52 are all intended to carry the weapon." Additionally, "Two B-1 Lancers fired a total of 19 JASSMs as part of strikes against three Syrian government alleged chemical weapons targets." So, a B-1 can carry at least 10 JASSM. Here's the link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158_JASSM I must be missing something because JASSM doesn't seem to be much more capable than other existing cruise missiles.

[@sirzebra]

@@richardpark3054 i'm sorry i tpught you meant the configuration that's shown here, and intended for cargos, they are supposed to hold and drop 8times 4 missiles while having cargo space left, such a quantity can only be carried by those planes. I beleive the only reason for these 4x containers is the ability to swarm rapidily a very big fleet, and hit more than 60 différents targets with only a couple cargo planes. I have no idea if it's meant to be economical, or just utilize the fact that such cargo planes are not watched as closely as strategic bombers, and very often on rotation in the south china sea hence could represent detterence without having bombers flying near coastal waters. It's my best guess, you cant just bring out B1 bombers everyday in times of peace. Cargo planes on the other hand are a constant occurence, and you probably wont be able to tell which could carry weaponized payloads.

[@richardpark3054]

@@sirzebra Thanks! Perhaps the advantage of JASSM over existing cruise missiles is the salvo/surge idea: launching many missiles in a short time from an existing asset w/o significant (if any) modification. But I think B-52's can carry many (2 dozen?) cruise missiles already. And arming a C-130 (bless her soul!) would de-facto make it a bomber and (appropriately) generate closer scrutiny by opposing forces.

[@sirzebra]

@@richardpark3054 I beleive the selling point was indeed the lack of modification needed to accomodate this delivery system. It's obvious they would'nt publish trials of this system if the intent was for it to be sercretive, i think it's an even better deterrence if you now have to allocate ressources and surveillance to predict which cargoes might be weaponised, and leave any fleet with such a damocles sword possibly in the air. You can imagine how that system could allow for cooler heads near taiwan for example, as just a few C130's could technically interdict a huge part of any navy headed it's way.

[@hatunrecht5858]

Great job! Best destruction of taxpayers' money ever.

[@davidbenner2289]

I remember the C-130 back in 1969 in South East Asia. Then the C-130A. Much quieter.

[@runthis8738]

Now we know what happened to Nord stream 😂🤣 well played 👏👏

[@TheThewulasvegas]

I see this demonstration was filmed in ultra low def. W this is what 4? DPI, not K.

[@Dpol85]

10 years later, this was the weapon that was found to have disabled the nord stream pipeline. Jk

[@damkayaker]

It didn't strike a target. Why was the video cut at 2:34 and then comes back zooms in to an explosive that simply blew up on the surface look at the perfectly round ripples at 2:47 there's no target there just empty water. The MIC is a plaque upon the world.

[@Supersean0001]

Pretty impressive. Think about a squadron of C-130s or C-17s similarly armed . . . Let loose a huge swarm of JASSMs. Big time game changer . . . But now we've proven it's do-able, you know Russia will do the same with An-12s and Il-76s within the next couple of years. Great idea, but not exactly all that hard to do.

[@dinosshed]

Russia has lost a great amount of technical support and that's going to make it a little difficult to copy.

[@bowenzhou5264]

depending on spacing , aquadron of MC 130s would have a radar footprint like the side of a barn .. but spread 'em out , and give 'em some top cover , and they'd do just fine in this role , methinks

[@ericwieboldt7042]

Why would russia do the same when all the have to do is shoot the c130 down. This was a pointless exhibition. Like a caveman breaking a bone open with a rock.

[@nautifella]

Just like all the other wizbang russian military tech, _all sizzle not steak._ It will be a poor copy with a high failure rate.

[@TheAlmostHarmless]

@@ericwieboldt7042 The range of these munitions is greater than the range of any modern anti air system. I fly this plane.

[@jeremiahshields7827]

NATO needs to be dismantled.

[@tonylear2705]

Could explain the sudden loss of some Russian ships in the Black Sea and sea of Azov recently. I wonder if Mk34 Torpedoes could be launched the same way😄

[@freedomisnotnegotiable]

You heard that from Ukrainian news, correct 😂…

[@magicman2723]

You are not bright

[@robertbobbypelletreaujr2173]

A speedboat with a deck mounted spear gun, some depth charges, a couple armable drones and a riflemen team would be a better fit maybe, especially if theres platoon sized bunches of such..

[@gator3-234]

Once again Military. Your ability to over complicate weapons systems is incredible. It's there anymore trash you could discard into the ocean? That little million dollar baby could've been wing mounted. But noooooo. What kind of highspeed delivery package can we use to complicate the situation?! I was a 25th Infantry grunt. And the amount of dunnage the the military can produce just blows my mind.

[@gator3-234]

@Ci Absalon oh 💯%

[@TheAlmostHarmless]

@@gator3-234 This is actually a super simple delivery system. It's not wing mounted because you can't launch a dozen from pylons. That'd severely impact performance. Your lack of understanding should lead you to ask more genuine questions rather than embarrass yourself with ignorance.

[@gator3-234]

@@TheAlmostHarmless here's a Chair Force guy now. Thanks for the support from 10000 feet. I'm aware of what you're saying. I'm just saying we have enough munitions to do all kinds of high speed explosions. I just think it's mildly amusing we have to keep over complicating it.

[@gator3-234]

@@TheAlmostHarmless 😘🖕

[@TheAlmostHarmless]

@Gator 3-2 What you're saying clearly shows you're not actually familiar with our weapons systems, or foreign defensive systems, to postulate on why this weapon system and it's multiple employment methods are necessary. This isn't even remotely overcomplicated.

[@CaraVerde]

My girlfriends used to do it like that. They pulled the pants, then the pants pulled the boxer with it