U.S. NAVY MAIN BATTERY FIRE CONTROL NAVAL GUNFIRE TRAINING FILM 81600

[@patton303]

These defense training films kept studio orchestra musicians gainfully employed for decades.

[@JayRock907]

11:39 I had no idea that the radar could show the splashes from the (missed) shots! omg that is so fckn cool!

[@frogisis]

I always think about how people had to _figure all this out._ That "Battle Bill" book isn't a stone tablet that descended from on high (not literally, anyway), humans had to sit down and decide how to write it-Imagine all the discussions and arguments people must have had about who talks to whom and when about what, and all the catastrophes and casualties and ones-that-got-away that spurred them to change their procedures.

[@joedidit3233]

I served aboard a heavy cruiser during the Vietnam war. The film is accurate, but the we didn't speak over our sound powered phones in the way these guys do in the film. They sound robotic as if trying to adhere to a script. We said essentially the same things, but in a much more natural and faster way. When they would report that they had switched their turrets or mounts into "automatic" we would instead say "auto". We did everything they did, but we spoke much more causally because it was everyday and routine to us. These guys sound much more serious and formal. This was apparently on the USS Burlingame, CA-905 whereas my ship was the USS Saint Paul, CA-73.

[@tonytrotta9322]

Thank you for your service! I saw the USS Saint Paul in Bremerton, Washington in 1976 next to the USS Canberra and USS Missouri. They were in Mothballs at that time. We could not board the Missouri for they closed it for the next day they towed it into the bay and filmed the MaCarthur movie.

[@DjigitDaniel]

TRADOC film, naturally it's unnatural for an experienced salt like you. :-)

[@frednesbittjr.7862]

It's a training film, Joe. Notice the turrets move butt the Director is always looking Forward. They must have painted the targets on that miserable Mk-10's 3-inch screen... BTW: You might like my book..."A FamilyGram From Vietnam" ...check it out on Amazon or Kindle. Fred "Foxx" Nesbitt, FTG-2, SS.

[@colinsdad1]

Mr.Didit- First off, as a third generation Veteran, Thank You for your service! Second, a BIG Thank You for possibly saving my Dad's ass in Nam- he was in a grunt unit (11 Bravo) from 69-70. I thought this film was quite scripted as well, but, you pretty much filled in those blanks I had about Procedure on Ship. I'm assuming this system was similar between say, Iowa Class and your heavy cruiser. I believe the ONLY difference would be rate of fire with the Main Battery, correct??

[@mcgee66p]

My dad served on the sister ship to the Saint Paul, USS Helena, CA75. He loved that ship.

[@barneylinet6602]

I visited USS Alabama, a WWII battleship. Went inside one of the 16" turrets. What seems to be huge on the outside, is very cramped on the inside. You had better be exactly where you need to be, or you will be squashed like a bug. I peeked through the turret optical range-finder....It felt like a sleeping giant had just opened an eye. Uss Alabama is berthed in Mobile Bay.

[@swillm3ister]

Thank you for preserving our heritage.

[@CuriosityByNature]

How our grandpas had played in World of Warships, update 0.0.1 beta :)

[@iiiqvexiii8209]

You means alpha

[@jacobkuply387]

Brilliant comment

[@cliphound80]

A Baltimore-Class heavy cruiser! They sported nine 8"/55 caliber main guns in 3 triple turrets. They faithfully and proudly served the US Navy in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam, in the latter the USS St. Paul the USS Newport News ended their days as the last two 8"/55 gun heavy cruisers in the US Navy, and provided gunfire support for troops ashore and struck hard at targets in North Vietnam. Four Baltimore-Class ships were later converted into the Boston and Albany-Class guided missile cruisers.

[@swillm3ister]

I like the ending where they are polishing the equipment. Nice touch haha.

[@raymondhoyland61]

Fabulous engineering and manufacturer of one of the most beautiful vessels ,. And for what?. Look at the bottom of the ocean

[@robscott8296]

1:20 GQ ( general quarters) 15:52 secure from General quarters

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

Very informative! There's a reason why rate of fire is overrated. Ships rarely fire at max fire rate for any extended period of time. Even after proper ranging, the enemy target may make a course change and the entire process is redone. Another possibility is that their own ship change course which then means recalculation have to be done. Or the target might disappear and pop back up later. Another possibility may be an order to switch targets to another ship. They may fire at max RoF for a dozen round at most before stopping due to various circumstances. Rate of fire gets more important when our FCS gets more advanced.

[@patrickmcleod111]

What does "FCS" mean?

[@BicyclesMayUseFullLane]

@@patrickmcleod111 Fire Control System

[@steelpanther88]

The rangekeeper computer on Iowa battleship could almost instantly calculate any changes based on own ship manouvers. However if the enemy ship was constantly turning, (as opposed to sailing straight) when rounds are flying then its going to miss most likely. It could also be easier to spot the salvoes from airplane spotter or radar in salvo firing.

[@JayRock907]

Rate of Fire wasnt overrated at the battle of jutland tho 😊

[@topgeardel]

Good to see the guys unloosen their top button and relax after their glorious victory. Story was a little different in the Battle of Savo Island.

[@techone19]

A very informative video. Thanks

[@stradplayer90]

solid gold

[@jpdillon2832]

Looks to me like a Baltimore class heavy CA, but I may be wrong. Anyone know which ship this actually is?

[@soarinskies1105]

Jpdillon it looks like it’s most likely a Baltimore class heavy cruiser, either that or it’s 1 of the two Des Moines class heavy cruisers they built, but those weren’t completed until after the war

[@tonytrotta9322]

It's a Baltimore class heavy cruiser for the ship has (2) smoke stacks. Also, the turret gun loaders are loading (2) powder bags for each shell. The USS Salem had the shell and power together as one and that gun could load at any angle. These guns were lowered for loading.

[@chrislemasters]

Hull number says it’s the Macon

[@ColKorn1965]

In two weeks I'm taking the fire control tour on the USS North Carolina. :)

[@robscott8296]

ColKorn1965 nice it’s my favorite ship and my grandpa help saved the USS North Carolina from scrap when he was a child

[@pupplementarypupplements5804]

how was it

[@geoffk716]

I’ve been on it over 120 times, I love it

[@Alpha_blossom]

I grew up next to the NC and now all I do is watch old footage of WW2 naval ships and airplanes

[@bradgolding6847]

I am surprised that so many orders are not repeated back.

[@TonyLovell]

I came here for the Brad Golding!

[@ObviousSchism]

@@TonyLovell ​ I came here for the Tony Lovell!

[@imapaine-diaz4451]

I think that sailor at 9:46 has the most interesting battle station on the ship! Wonder what his job is?

[@spiffinz]

Looks like he's running wiring and inspecting things, getting ready to head inside for the firing

[@CFarnwide]

I noticed that as well and thought to myself “Thats not a very safe looking place to be”.

[@MARS_118]

1:25 - I thought they use a tape record or something for that battlestation sound ^^

[@bradgolding6847]

Hey, that guy didn't get blown off A Turret!

[@nonna_sof5889]

11:26. Those helmets... I'm sure there's a reason for them, but that doesn't stop them looking comically over sized.

[@dennislloyd494]

They do but they accommodate earphones.

[@davidhoffman1278]

Accommodate the headset portion of the individual communication device.

[@jamesbrowne6351]

Makes you think of Rick Moranis as 'Dark Helmet' in Space Balls.

[@Reactordrone]

@@jamesbrowne6351 They were the basis for the rebel fleet trooper helmets in the original Star Wars.

[@copper4441]

do you really need the counter its in the way

[@davidhoffman1278]

Copyright infringement avoidance.

[@gf-qx8mv]

@@davidhoffman1278 Put the counter at the top horizontally or the side vertically. Much is lost visually because of terrible placement of the timer or indifference of the Periscope Film people.

[@pilgrim....]

@@gf-qx8mv And make it smaller

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[@beefgoat80]

Is there a way to donate without having to make a patreon account?

[@jimparsons6803]

Interesting, and effective. There were a lot of folks in the chain of command, this is a guess on my part because of the lack of apparent computers. There was an article that I once read, which was confirmed on a KZbin clip, which claimed that the number of people needed to operate some modern day Naval ships is much less than formally needed say 50 years ago? Once such ship on a KZbin clip had only 68 people because of computerized automation. I'm sure that there are a number of onboard safeguards against computer viruses? Yikes!!

[@ooyginyardel4835]

Are those guns mounted on gimbals?

[@youruptownlowdown7745]

1st Naval Gunfire! Hawaii, Semper Fi

[@DrLumpyDMus]

What's the MOS for "Bugler"?

[@rustywilliamson7140]

I wondered that too. Did the Navy ever actually deploy buglers on warships? I suppose they would be necessary to play taps for at sea burials.

[@barneylinet6602]

One of the tricks of a naval gunfight is called "chasing splashes" . Since the enemy missed, he will correct his aim, and the next salvo will fall on you. But if you steer towards the splash, the process of correcting will mean the next salvo will not fall near the splash.

[@davidsoule1252]

Bracket and half is the method best used. Chasing splashes never gets you to the target. I was an FTG in the Navy during the Vietnam War. We set up the computer and radar to fire the ship's guns.

[@barriewright2857]

How much would it cost to build a ship like that today ! . I wonder how much of the ship would be automated and, would they need the same number of people to man such a ship.

[@paulmorissette5863]

The Burkes are about $2 billion.

[@darylmorning]

@@paulmorissette5863 Yeah, but they don't have heavy guns, IMHO 5"/54s (and 5"/62s) are secondary class batteries. They need The 12"/50s from the Alaska-class with the automation of the 76mm/62 from the Perry-class. That's reach out and touch someone 35km away with Rapid Fire.

[@Zippsterman]

11:27 Helmets are looking like they're operating the death star

[@taylorwhite636]

God bless our navy

[@davekimball3610]

CA-139 ? USS Salem? Just guessing

[@tonytrotta9322]

It's a Baltimore class heavy cruiser for the ship has (2) smoke stacks. Also, the turret gun loaders are loading (2) powder bags for each shell. The USS Salem had the shell and power together as one and that gun could load at any angle. These guns were lowered for loading.

[@chrislemasters]

Looks like the Macon

[@JustMe-cu1lw]

8:02 , 12:01 Quentin Tarrantino granpa ??? :)

[@Hi_There_8]

2x Citadel 4x penetration 11:36

[@TheGlenn8]

Enemy cruiser foundered.

[@xXturbo86Xx]

Alaska class cruiser. A mini Iowa.

[@patrickmcleod111]

**I remember my first wartime patrol aboard a heavy cruiser in WW2 in 1943. At one point, the intercom opened up with the message, "go to general quarters". Suddenly I saw people running around like crazy, so I did the same. I ran all over that darn ship, but I never could locate the general's quarters! I didn't even know why they wanted all of us to go to the general's quarters in the first place! I thought maybe the general was hosting a surprise party for the crew, and I imagined that he must have some HUGE quarters, for the entire crew to fit in there together all at once!** But then I started hearing our guns firing, so I decided to give up on attending the general's party, and instead I ran to my station to help fire back at whoever was firing at us. I've always wondered if the enemy somehow knew about the party, and chose that time to attack us, knowing we would be tying one on with the general, and be caught by surprise!

[@robscott8296]

I guess you finally figured out what General quarters means

[@michaeledlin9995]

Freaking hilarious

[@robscott8296]

11:36 firing

[@amorag59]

Where can I get one of those whistles tho

[@alldayvids3962]

i came here because of world of warships

[@野良犬撮影隊二大隊四]

oh nice!

[@gorillaau]

"You sank my battleship!"

[@billhuber2964]

Swim call .😁

[@FALprofessional]

Ahh yes. My evening programming.

[@simonjackson7269]

Why aren't they wearing flash protection??

[@paulreed6822]

I have looked for the USS Burlingame CA-905 online and have been given the runaround.

[@PaulinSaudi2]

In 1954 were there no Black sailors?

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

There are, US navy is the first branch of the US military to integrate all racial backgrounds. Its just that there aren't that many back in the day since the rest of US society isn't as open.

[@FN_FAL_4_ever]

Plenty of them back in the day. Quit stirring the racial pot

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@@FN_FAL_4_ever Your just dogging a valid question.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@@neurofiedyamato8763 The Coasties were more ahead of the Navy in this area.

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

@Dennis Wilson Long mixed bag reply. Easier to say there was a lack of Blacks in Gunners Mate and Fire Controlmen rates on this ship.

[@michaelyates5976]

The intro music sounded like a Flash Gordon movie.

[@rennugm1]

😎⚓🇺🇸 USS OKLAHOMA City CG5 here 6"/47 Triple Gun Turetts an 5"38 Dual purpose gun mount ..😎⚓ US Navy Gunners Mate Guns . GMG1 ...

[@stephenhoward6829]

Had the pleasure of going aboard her in Yokosuka in '77, a shipmate from a prior duty station showed me around. Lovely ship. We replenished her frequently, I was on the Wichita, AOR-1.

[@robscott8296]

13:05 rapid fire

[@chuckg2016]

My comment is completely irrelevant. Did anyone notice the guns being elevated to the firing elevation first; then to battery for loading?

[@lanslater]

Good - if you want something to make you feel sleepy Worked for me

[@arturboras6615]

😊

[@ncktbs]

most likely USS Roanoke (CL-145) the commander was creed burlingame at the time While commanding the Silversides, the ship and crew received a presidential citation and Burlingame earned two Silver Stars and three Navy Crosses. As commander of the 182d Submarine Division in the Pacific, he was awarded the Legion of Merit.[2] Following World War II, Burlingame served in various assignments, including command of USS Roanoke from 15 September 1953 to 3 March 1955.[5] He retired in 1957, at the rank of rear admiral

[@anthonylowder6687]

If they wee in combat they would be moving a lot faster than in this film

[@sammin5764]

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